BEST OF GL: The traveling Lymans visit the GL podcast studio!!

Summary

GARAGE LOGIC "BEST OF GL: The Traveling Lymans Visit the GL Podcast Studio!!"
Garage Logic – December 26, 2025
Host: Joe Soucheray
Guests: Tom and Jessica Lyman ("The Traveling Lymans")
Summary by Episode Summarizer

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Episode Overview

In this standout episode, host Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor") is joined live in-studio by Tom and Jessica Lyman – better known among Garage Logic listeners as "The Traveling Lymans." Over the past decade, Tom and Jessica have been sending in their beloved "On This Day in Minnesota History" emails from locations all over the globe, as they've traveled full-time since 2012. Their journey began with retirement and the sale of everything they owned, leading to a life of extraordinary minimalist adventure on all seven continents. In this fascinating, wide-ranging conversation, the couple shares stories from their travels, explains their unique lifestyle, and offers insight into how common sense and a strong partnership shape a life less ordinary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Origin of the Lymans' Wanderlust (03:40–05:11)

• The idea for a global adventure was sparked in 2012, just before Tom's retirement from Burlington Northern Railroad (after 42½ years).
  • Tom: "[Jessica] comes in and she says, what are you going to do in nine or ten months? You can't sit in that chair for the rest of your life, right?...I said, maybe we should travel the world." (03:53)
• Jessica spent a week on an Excel spreadsheet working out finances. They realized this radical shift was possible only if they sold all possessions.
  • Jessica: "We have no storage. We have no house or apartment or nobody...No family member's house that we have any belongings." (04:47)

2. Living with No Home Base (04:45–06:41)

• They sold their Chanhassen house, keep nothing in storage, and have minimized their material possessions to three suitcases.
  • "We have no storage. We have no house or apartment...just what's in our suitcases." (04:46, 24:46)
• Their finances work thanks to Tom's railroad pension. They have not tapped into their investments or retirement funds:
  • "So we still have our investments and retirement funds, but we don't touch that. We just live on the railroad pension." (19:46)

3. "On This Day in Minnesota History" and Lymans' Role in the Show (05:29–06:41)

• Tom began sending historical vignettes to Joe Soucheray sporadically, but made it daily during a 10-month lockdown in Mumbai, India.
  • Tom: "When we were stuck in India for those 10 months, I start sending them to you every day...then you start reading them because you used to say, all the way from Mumbai." (05:37–05:52)
• The bit became a cherished segment for GL listeners, offering a sense of continuity and charm—especially given the Lymans' globe-trotting locations.

4. Travel Highlights: All Seven Continents & Unforgettable Experiences (06:53–18:18, 43:00–43:38)

• They have explored all continents, including Antarctica, where they walked among a million penguins.
  • Jessica: "At different points, we were standing on an island with a million penguins. It was unbelievable." (07:09–07:13)
• Favourites include Africa’s wildlife (especially Marlo Park, South Africa), Tasmania, and small-island life in Fiji.
• Adventures in the Middle East involved pirate drills on Red Sea cruises, and several months in obscure South American locales are on their future wishlist.

5. Surviving the Pandemic Locked Down in Mumbai (08:17–12:41)

• In early 2020, COVID-19 abruptly halted their India tour. After multiple attempts to leave, they were stranded in a deserted Marriott hotel near Mumbai’s airport for 10 months.
  • Jessica: "There were 330 rooms in that hotel. And there were six...paying customers." (10:58–11:07)
  • Jessica: "We couldn't have a beer or a glass of wine. We didn't know we were going to be there 10 months either." (11:27–11:30)
• Despite the isolation and lack of basic comforts, the couple never fought and leaned into their routine—writing blogs, staying connected online, and supporting each other.
  • Jessica: "10 months we sat in that room...never had a fight." (13:01, 19:02)

6. Health Challenges Abroad & Unshakeable Partnership (13:47–14:34, 19:46–21:20)

• Jessica underwent emergency triple coronary bypass surgery in rural South Africa, but even this didn’t slow them down.
  • Jessica: "Triple bypass in a small hospital in South Africa...and we never missed a beat." (14:00–14:12)
• Their accent on partnership, patience, non-confrontation, and humor is a recurring theme; they serve as a model for how couples can thrive together in adversity.
  • Jessica: "I don't bitch. I don't complain. I'm not late, and I don't fight." (24:09)
  • Joe (to Jessica): "You know what you are? A miracle." (24:19)

7. Minimalism, Money, and Security (24:43–25:35, 35:35–36:11, 39:04–41:15)

• With everything they own in just three suitcases, they embody minimalist living.
• They stay safe by avoiding major cities, not wearing jewelry ("...they'll take your hand off for a ring"), using RFID wallets, and keeping their heads down in high-risk areas.
• Their budgeting is meticulous—Jessica books life years in advance to reduce anxiety and ensure stability wherever they roam.
  • Jessica: "We booked out the first two years before we even left." (36:11)

8. Worldwide Waftage: Sharing Their Life Online (29:45–31:18)

• The Lymans run a travel blog, Worldwide Waftage, posting daily stories for free.
  • Jessica: "We've done almost 3,500 stories, which is equivalent to a chapter in a book." (30:08)
• The blog, originally for family, is now global in reach, offering detailed travel reports, resources for aspiring nomads, and a diary of their "homeless" wanderings.

9. Language Barriers and Cultural Encounters (33:12–35:35)

• Their approach to language: learn "thank you" first. They rely on gestures, guides, and openness ("we got so much done just by saying thank you").
• A humorous anecdote: A Portuguese butcher communicated "chicken breasts" by grabbing her own, helping the couple navigate grocery shopping without language.

10. American Identity, Perceptions, and Family Reactions (44:27–46:32, 48:48–50:17)

• They’re committed not to being “the ugly American” abroad—never leaving a negative footprint— and always checking twice a year if the other wants to continue.
  • Jessica: "We wouldn't leave a footprint behind that people would say, oh, Americans have been here...We made a commitment that if either one of us ever got tired of doing this, we'd agree to quit." (45:38)
• Their children, especially those with grandkids, often miss them, but respect their independence and joy.
• Upon retirement, they established residency in Nevada for tax benefits and manage everything via digital mail.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "We have no storage. We have no house or apartment or nobody. No family member's house that we have any belongings." —Jessica (04:47)
• "At different points, we were standing on an island with a million penguins. It was unbelievable." —Jessica (07:13)
• "10 months we sat in that room...never had a fight." —Jessica (13:01, 19:02)
• "In that hotel room at 3 o'clock every afternoon...we would start streaming...We'd stream shows, so we sat there from three in the afternoon till we went to bed every night watching shows." —Jessica (46:34)
• "You know what you are? A miracle." —Joe, to Jessica (24:19)
• "She told me not to tell you this. People ask us, how do you survive? ... You were alone in a hotel room for 10 months, and we never had a fight." —Tom (19:04)
• "We did this for love." —Jessica, on turning down reality TV/book deals (38:32)
• "We are so free." —Jessica, on minimalism (40:35)

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Key Timestamps

• 03:40 – The Lymans' origin story; decision to travel the world
• 05:29 – Becoming a regular part of the Garage Logic show
• 06:53 – Reaching all seven continents (Antarctica highlight)
• 08:17–12:41 – Locked down in Mumbai during COVID
• 13:47 – Jessica's health crisis in South Africa
• 14:34 – More about wild African experiences (Marlo Park, Kruger)
• 19:46 – Living off the railroad pension; financial logistics
• 24:46 – Complete minimalism; only three suitcases
• 29:47 – About their blog WorldwideWaftage.com
• 32:01 – Current pandemic travel impacts
• 33:12 – Handling language barriers, cultural anecdotes
• 45:23 – Being "the non-ugly American," checking in on lifestyle satisfaction
• 48:48 – Pushback from family, setting up a U.S. home base alternative
• 51:12 – The most beautiful beaches ("Indian Ocean in Kenya," Bali)

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The Lymans' Top Advice for Aspiring Travelers

• Focus on minimalism: Eliminate unnecessary possessions for more freedom.
• Meticulous planning: Budget and schedule long-term in advance, especially with no fixed base.
• Be adaptable: Accept discomforts (bugs, unfamiliar beds, food, climate) and focus on adventure.
• Prioritize partnership: Strong, patient relationships are the backbone of constant travel.
• Leave a good impression: Strive never to be "the ugly American"; be kind, generous, respectful.
• Maintain health: Stick to simple eating habits, avoid junk, and adapt where needed.
• Play it safe: Use RFID protection, avoid cities where possible, don’t flaunt jewelry.

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Closing Thoughts & Host Reflections

The episode is an uplifting testament to partnership, resourcefulness, and open-hearted adventure beyond Minnesota’s borders. The Lymans' stories enchant both the GL crew and audience—so much so that the hosts repeatedly express astonishment and admiration.

“This is easily the most fascinating thing I’ve ever been a part of.” —Kenny (55:10)

“Their story is a model for how to live richly with less, adapt constantly, and, above all, enjoy the journey – together.” —Paraphrased host sentiment

For those seeking inspiration to pare down, break routine, or simply reimagine retirement, this is a must-listen.

Visitors’ Resource

• Lymans’ blog: Worldwide Waftage (3,500+ daily stories, minimalist travel guidance, search bar for topics & practical info)

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Recommended Segments

• 06:53–09:03: The Antarctic penguins adventure
• 08:17–12:41: Trapped in Mumbai during COVID
• 14:00–14:12: Handling a medical crisis abroad
• 24:09–24:21: Jessica on her secret to a happy marriage

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For more, visit the [GL Facebook and Twitter pages] for links to the episode and "Worldwide Waftage."

Transcript

[Tom Lyman]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Tom Lyman]

Where's the promo for GL ers? Here it is.

[Patrick Royce]

Let's try this again.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Patrick Royce]

We're out of time.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Kenny]

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[John Hyde]

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[Kenny]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Kenny]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Hyde]

75?

[Joe Soucheray]

You're close.

[John Hyde]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Hyde]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Tom Lyman]

Mayor'S office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with rookie on production, Chris Reivers.

[John Hyde]

Director of social media, John Hyde in the newsroom, and occasionally Kenny from the crabby coffee shop. Here is your flashlight king, fireworks commissioner.

[Joe Soucheray]

And keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Succiat Gl or say hello to the traveling Lymans, who are live in studio. Here's the sheet this day in Minnesota history, but I can't read it now. It's at the end of every show. It's Tom Lyman and Jessica Lyman.

[John Hyde]

Wait a minute. Were they hand delivered today?

[Joe Soucheray]

Nope. Nope. Well, they could have been, but they came by email. Tom and Jessica, tell us what you've been doing with your Life.

[Tom Lyman]

Back in 2012, Jess was already retired, and I was going to retire on Halloween 2012. So in January of 2012, one Sunday morning, I'm reading the paper, have the TV on, and she comes in and she says, what are you going to do in nine or 10 months? You can't sit in that chair for the rest of your life, right? And I turned down the corner of the newspaper. I looked at her and I said, maybe we should travel the world. She left the room. I thought I won. I went to work the next week, next Sunday, I'm watching the tv, reading the paper. She comes in, put that paper down, turn the TV off.

[Jessica Lyman]

And I had spent. I had spent a week with an Excel spreadsheet trying to figure out how we could make this work. He said, travel the world. I said, okay, let's do it. So I did the numbers and it worked out. And the only way we figured we could do it, make it affordable and be able to live nicely, was to sell everything we owned.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, man.

[John Hyde]

Perfect.

[Jessica Lyman]

Everything. We have no storage. We have no house or apartment or nobody. No family member's house that we have any belongings.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do you have kids?

[Jessica Lyman]

We have kids, but they're old.

[Joe Soucheray]

So you sold the house?

[Jessica Lyman]

We sold the house.

[Joe Soucheray]

Where were you, in Eden Prairie?

[Jessica Lyman]

No, we were in Chanhassen.

[Joe Soucheray]

Chanhassen Lake Mittawasha.

[Tom Lyman]

Okay.

[John Hyde]

Oh, that's beautiful.

[Joe Soucheray]

What did you retire from, Tom?

[Tom Lyman]

I worked for Burlington Northern Railroad. 42 and a half years I was on the train. So I got to wave and smile looking out of a caboose or a locomotive. Oh, cool.

[Joe Soucheray]

Jessica, what did you retire from?

[Jessica Lyman]

I owned a real estate company most of my career now.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are you. Why are you home suddenly? How many years have you been gone?

[Tom Lyman]

Almost In Halloween, it's 10 years.

[Joe Soucheray]

10 years.

[John Hyde]

What? Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

When did you start sending me on this day in Minnesota history, and why. And then. I'll tell you why I asked that in a moment.

[Tom Lyman]

I used to send them sporadically to you if it was something about hubbard or. Or St. Paul. But when we were stuck in India for those 10 months, I start sending them to you every day. And then you start reading them because you used to say, all the way from Mumbai.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right. Because it's something you would do on a radio station in Crookston. It's just the corniest thing in the world.

[Tom Lyman]

Exactly.

[Joe Soucheray]

But you gave it new life because these were coming to us from God knows where. Mumbai and then Marleth park and Mpumalanga. And so you weren't doing it during the first part of your 10 years of travel?

[Tom Lyman]

No, it was sporadic. Once in a while, when I'd look at it, if there was something about, like when Hubbard started, you know, I'd send you that little.

[Kenny]

Right.

[Tom Lyman]

You know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right.

[Jessica Lyman]

But when we spent 10 months in lockdown in a hotel room, a Marriott hotel right near the airport in Mumbai, there wasn't a whole lot to do. So time kind of started thinking, oh, I'll start sending this every day.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. Well, now it's just become an integral part of the show. We just closed the damn show with it. It's just because it's so fun where they're coming from. Where are you?

[John Hyde]

To the point where he gets critical of something or little happening in the state.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Hyde]

Nothing happened.

[Joe Soucheray]

Damn it. Nothing happened today. Where have you not been?

[Jessica Lyman]

Well, we've been to all seven continents, including Antarctica.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really?

[Jessica Lyman]

Yes. Which was amazing. One of our favorite things, we went on a small ship with about 160 passengers, and twice a day we got off the ship and went in little Zodiac boats to go out to the islands.

[Kenny]

Wow.

[Jessica Lyman]

And at different points, we were standing on an island with a million penguins.

[Tom Lyman]

Really?

[Jessica Lyman]

It was unbelievable.

[Tom Lyman]

Just an amazing penguin boy, I bet.

[Jessica Lyman]

So that was really kind of like the topping it off. That's a once in a lifetime experience. But we've been to a lot of countries. We don't really worry about how many numbers of countries we've been to. We Just kind of focus on what appeals to us. And we love nature and wildlife and interesting culture and.

[Joe Soucheray]

How long are you in town on this trip?

[Tom Lyman]

Two weeks here in Minnesota and then we're gonna go to Nevada and visit another kid we used to have.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, and then from Nevada, where do you go?

[Tom Lyman]

We're going back.

[Jessica Lyman]

Back to Pumalinga.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, you are?

[Jessica Lyman]

Yeah, we are going back. It's been really. Covid has put a tremendous impact on our travels. You know, it's one thing if you go on a vacation for two weeks, but for us, where we go and stay somewhere for a month or two, it really has an impact on how we can live comfortably within that environment. So we found that staying in Africa right now till things with COVID settle down more is kind of a good base for us to use.

[Joe Soucheray]

Explain what happened to you in Mumbai.

[Tom Lyman]

We went there at the end of January 2019. We were.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's pre Covid?

[Tom Lyman]

Yep. And we got there, we had went on a train that we booked a week long train from kind of like.

[Jessica Lyman]

The Orient Express, but it was called the Maharaja Express. And then after that, we did that for a week. And then we had arranged a private tour of India with a driver with the two of us for 56 nights. And we started, and it was really fun. We were in this nice car, this Lexus that had WI fi and nice driver with the hat and. And very inexpensive compared to a tour in other countries. And we started touring India. But after about when was.

[Tom Lyman]

Well, it was March when Covid hit and things start closing down. We were supposed to be there until the first week in April because we were going to get a cruise from.

[Joe Soucheray]

Mumbai to the UK okay, now March of 20th, are you talking about?

[Tom Lyman]

Okay. And then. So then when things closed down, we flew back to Mumbai, going to leave. And we. On March 20, we went to the airport. We had a flight booked from.

[Jessica Lyman]

In the middle of the night.

[Tom Lyman]

In the middle of the night? Yeah, red eye. And fly from Mumbai to Joburg by way of Kenya. And nobody was wearing masks yet at the airport. And it took us a couple hours to get up to the front counter. And then we put our luggage on the thing. They never took the luggage. And about 30, 45 minutes, they're hitting the computers, checking everything, and they come back and they said, south Africa just closed their borders, you cannot get on the plane. So we had to take our luggage and we went back to the hotel we just checked out of and then we checked back in for three days and they closed.

[Jessica Lyman]

And then after Three days. They told us that we had to leave because they were closing. So they said they'd arranged another hotel for us. So we went to this other hotel. We get to this other hotel. They said, we don't know anything about you. We're closing tomorrow morning. There we are with all our bags. We don't have a lot of bags, but they're heavy, you know, and we have nowhere to go. And the only hotels that are available are Covid hotels where they have patients because all the hospitals were full.

[Joe Soucheray]

Were full.

[Jessica Lyman]

Oh, wow. So this one wonderful concierge at the Orchid hotel in Mumbai, he was amazing. He stayed on the phone for hours, calling every hotel in town. Found us a Courtyard by Marriott, which is very different than the courtyard by Marriott's here. Big, beautiful, phenomenal hotel. Said that they were staying open at the moment. So we went and checked in there. And when we checked in there, there were 330 rooms in that hotel. And there were six of us.

[Tom Lyman]

Paying customers.

[Jessica Lyman]

Paying customers.

[Tom Lyman]

I don't know how they stayed open.

[Jessica Lyman]

No, no. There was no other people.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, there were six people in the total.

[Tom Lyman]

Six couples paying customers.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow.

[Jessica Lyman]

Six rooms are occupied by paying customers.

[John Hyde]

Did they have full staff?

[Jessica Lyman]

They kept a staff there to service us. Six people. So they had cleaning staff. They kept the kitchen open, but we couldn't eat. They closed the restaurant. They closed the bar. They came in our room and took out the little bottles of booze because they banned alcohol.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, my word.

[Jessica Lyman]

So we couldn't have a beer or a glass of wine.

[Tom Lyman]

We didn't know we were going to be there. 10 months either.

[Jessica Lyman]

No, 10 months. 10 months we sat in that room.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did you ever get to go outside?

[Jessica Lyman]

Very rarely.

[Tom Lyman]

Once the hotel arranged a ride to her cash machine because she needed to get some rupees. And they have Amazon there. We ordered a package. So I went outside to get the package. I got the package. I was going to come back in the lobby. They stopped me and they tested me for my temperature. And I thought this was a bad idea. If my temperature was high, they wouldn't.

[John Hyde]

Have let you in.

[Jessica Lyman]

But at that point, if you got Covid, during that time we were in the hotel, the hospitals were full. They would put you in an army cot in the parking lot of a hospital, and they'd hook you, intubate you, and hook you up to the hospital's electricity.

[Kenny]

Oh, my.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did you guys ever get Covid?

[Jessica Lyman]

Just recently on a ship.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really?

[Jessica Lyman]

Yeah, we're okay now. We've been.

[Tom Lyman]

We've been tested when we Were on our way to Southampton. Yep. And we tested positive. So then we stayed in Southampton and then we got kits and we kept testing. And when we tested negative two days in a row, that's when we went to.

[Jessica Lyman]

Went to where?

[Tom Lyman]

When we flew back.

[Jessica Lyman]

Yeah, we came back.

[Tom Lyman]

Not Harwich.

[Jessica Lyman]

Oh, we went back to Southampton, to Gatwick.

[Tom Lyman]

Gatwick. And then we flew back just on the 1st.

[Jessica Lyman]

So we were stuck in a hotel again, this time having Covid and waiting till we got negative tests so that we could leave and come here.

[Joe Soucheray]

And none of this has dampened your enthusiasm for this lifestyle?

[Jessica Lyman]

No.

[Tom Lyman]

People used to ask us, what if something major happened? In February of 2019, we were in Marlowe Park.

[Jessica Lyman]

Marlow Park. We love Marlow Park. We've spent about two and a half years out of the nine and a half years in Marlowe park because we love wildlife, because the animals walk right up to the house.

[Patrick Royce]

Wow.

[Jessica Lyman]

They come right up to you. You get up in the morning and there's a dozen zebras standing there looking at you like, you know, really giraffes walking down the drive. It's unbelievable.

[Tom Lyman]

Cool.

[Jessica Lyman]

So we love that. We have a lot of friends.

[Joe Soucheray]

You ever see elephants? I love elephants.

[Jessica Lyman]

Oh yeah, we see elephants all the time.

[Tom Lyman]

It's a 20 minute drive to Crocodile Bridge gate to Kruger national park. So we buy a year pass, about 300 bucks.

[Jessica Lyman]

We love it so much. But anyway, where were we?

[Joe Soucheray]

We were February of 2019.

[Jessica Lyman]

Yeah, February 2019. I'm a fit, energetic, athletic kind of person. And I ended up having to have emergency coronary bypass surgery at a tiny hospital.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really?

[Jessica Lyman]

Triple bypass in a small hospital in South Africa. About an hour and a half from Marlowe park.

[Tom Lyman]

Thank God for Dr. Christian Bernard. When we were younger, Joe, he did the first successful heart transplant in South.

[Jessica Lyman]

Africa's are pretty good. But I survived. I'm here. And we never missed a beat. When I had that surgery, we ended up having to stay an extra three months so I could go on an airplane. And we stayed those three months. And the three months were up, we're back on a plane and we went to Ireland on the ocean, enjoying life once again.

[Joe Soucheray]

When you are done with your Nevada visit, you say you're going back to Marleth park and then is that for an extended period? Will you be there?

[Tom Lyman]

We can only stay 90 days and we either have to apply for an extension of 90 days and you can do that once or you have to exit and you can't go to a country that borders South Africa. You got to go to. Because they don't want you border hopping, which we've done. We've gone to Livingstone and then return to South Africa.

[Joe Soucheray]

How do you think you came about this wanderlust?

[Jessica Lyman]

Neither one of us had ever cared about travel one way or the other. We're a typical Minnesota family.

[Joe Soucheray]

Were you born and raised in Minnesota?

[Tom Lyman]

Yeah, North Minneapolis, six in Plymouth for me.

[Jessica Lyman]

But I've been in Minnesota for 42 years.

[Tom Lyman]

I went to. It doesn't exist. St. Joe's grade school got torn down for 94. Then I went to De La Salle High School.

[Jessica Lyman]

So we never knew we had the wanderlust. But when he made that statement to.

[Tom Lyman]

Me, I wasn't serious.

[John Hyde]

Something clicked.

[Jessica Lyman]

2012. It's like a light bulb went off in my head and I thought, that sounds kind of fun.

[John Hyde]

That sounds kind of fun.

[Kenny]

You know what that was, Joe? She got permission, that's what she got.

[Tom Lyman]

And that next Sunday I'm reading the paper, watching the tv and she told me, put the paper down, turn the TV off. When she started talking, I had forgotten. I thought I just got her out of the room last Sunday.

[Jessica Lyman]

But the funny part of it was, is I have had this burning desire my whole life to go to Africa because I love animals. And even from the time I was a little kid. So as soon as he said travel the world, I thought, oh, we can go to Africa. He wanted to go through the Panama Canal. That was real important to him.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did you do that? Yeah.

[Jessica Lyman]

First thing I thought, let's get that out of the way and get it.

[Tom Lyman]

Yeah, get this out.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right, right.

[Jessica Lyman]

So I had showed him a picture of a house in Milo park that.

[Tom Lyman]

When I come home from work one day, I'm still working and she's doing all this research and there's a warthog in the house and she says, I don't know where this place is, but I want to go there. And I'm thinking, I don't want to go any place they let a pig in the house.

[Kenny]

Right.

[Jessica Lyman]

Well, I. I wanted to experience having a 350 pound pig come in my house.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is that your favorite place, Mar?

[Jessica Lyman]

It is mine. He's got other favorites, but give me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Some of your favorites.

[Tom Lyman]

Well, we're both in the southern hemisphere. We spent 90 days in Tasmania. Penguin Tasmania, Southern, Northern coast. I fell in love with that, you know. So we're both in the southern hemisphere, opposite side of the world.

[Joe Soucheray]

But I suppose there's not a place I could mention that you haven't been.

[Tom Lyman]

Well, there's Quite a few, really, because we.

[Joe Soucheray]

Ever been to the Middle East?

[Tom Lyman]

Yes.

[Jessica Lyman]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was a great experience. Many countries we were in Jordan and Egypt and Turkey and United Arab Emirates. We went on a cruise in 2013 where we sailed out of Dubai and we went down the Red Sea to the Gulf of Aden, which is where they made the movie Captain Phillips with Tom Hanks.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[Jessica Lyman]

And they had pirate drills on the ship.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes.

[Jessica Lyman]

And we had to go through these and they close the curtains at night. And then they had the guys come on the ship with the packages, you know, the black boxes.

[Tom Lyman]

They were either UK Royal Marines or the Australian Marines. A little ship came alongside and they said a safety package. I assume it was night vision goggles and weapons. And they were on the ship. For as we went to the Gulf of Ardenne and we approached Dubai after three days, they were out there at night and you couldn't be out on the outer decks after dark.

[Jessica Lyman]

But for us, that was so exciting. I mean, something like that. We get so excited, we don't get fearful.

[Joe Soucheray]

So we ever been in danger?

[Kenny]

Not really.

[Tom Lyman]

I mean, except for her heart surgery, huh?

[Jessica Lyman]

No, I don't think so. I think we're very careful.

[Joe Soucheray]

How long have you been married?

[Tom Lyman]

95. We got. We met in 91 and we got married in 95.

[Jessica Lyman]

We've been together almost 31 years.

[Tom Lyman]

We're a blended family. He has two sons and I have a daughter and a son.

[Joe Soucheray]

So the question that everybody wants to know is, you really must like each other.

[Jessica Lyman]

We do. We like each other.

[Tom Lyman]

She don't want me to tell you this. She told me not to tell you this. People ask us, how do you survive?

[Joe Soucheray]

You were alone in a hotel room for 10 months and we never had a fight.

[Jessica Lyman]

Never had a fight.

[Tom Lyman]

She won't fight. I'm the youngest of 11. I fight anyway. We don't own anything. She don't want me to say that. We don't have a mortgage, we don't have cars, we don't have life insurance on each other anymore because we don't have this big debt that a lot of people have. So I said, she needs my pension check the first of every month. I can sleep every night with both eyes closed because I'm worth more Money on the 1st of the month than if I had a million dollar policy. She doesn't like me to say that.

[Kenny]

So have you.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is it? Are you essentially burning through, however measured you've done it? Your retirement funding?

[Jessica Lyman]

No, not at all. From 42 and a half years on the railroad. He gets a monthly pension.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right.

[Jessica Lyman]

So we still have our investments and retirement funds, but we don't touch that. We just live on the road.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're living off the railroad pension. That's funding the traveling.

[Jessica Lyman]

Funding the traveling. And we can do this until we die.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow, that is truly amazing.

[Kenny]

Have you been to Russia?

[Tom Lyman]

Think of it.

[Jessica Lyman]

All your blended kids, they think we're nuts.

[Kenny]

What about Russia? Have you been there and where at?

[Tom Lyman]

We went to St. Petersburg in 2019 after she had the surgery. And in July of this year, we were. I want. I've always wanted to do the Black Sea. And we had a cruise book, and it was supposed to go to the Ukraine and Russia, where the Olympics were. Well, they didn't. Cruise line didn't cancel it. They just changed the itinerary. But that cruise was so expensive. 100% more than the following cruise. So we canceled it because they're not going to any of the countries in the Black Sea.

[Jessica Lyman]

And they were doing an itinerary that was about half the cost normally for a cruise that does this other itinerary. So we didn't want to pay that money.

[Joe Soucheray]

So you never got to Ukraine?

[Jessica Lyman]

No, we didn't get to Ukraine.

[Joe Soucheray]

But you've been in St. Petersburg, Russia?

[Jessica Lyman]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

What about Scandinavian countries?

[Tom Lyman]

We have a cruise book, August of 2013, that leaves out of Scotland and it goes up to north.

[Jessica Lyman]

2013.

[John Hyde]

2023.

[Tom Lyman]

20. What did I say? You said 2023.

[Joe Soucheray]

2023.

[Tom Lyman]

And it goes up the west coast to the top end of Sweden or Norway and then comes back.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're starting to fill in each other's sentences, aren't you?

[Jessica Lyman]

Oh, we've been doing that forever. No, we really get along well. And that is a secret to doing this.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Jessica Lyman]

Because if you didn't get along well, you could not continue. And we don't fight. I'm one of those people that if someone wants to fight with me, I just leave the room.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Jessica Lyman]

I don't like confrontation.

[John Hyde]

Such 10 months in the same hotel, you and the CP.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I think it would.

[John Hyde]

10 minutes.

[Joe Soucheray]

You'd have to. Well, not even that long, but you'd have to. You'd have to really get used to it.

[Tom Lyman]

Well, we did.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Tom Lyman]

And it was no alcohol. Yeah. No tobacco for 10 months either.

[Joe Soucheray]

You a smoker?

[Tom Lyman]

I'm a smoker. And I started again after those 10 months like an idiot. But no beef, because cows are sacred in India.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, sure.

[Jessica Lyman]

Neither of us care for Indian food.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right.

[Jessica Lyman]

So he ate chicken penne pasta every night. For eight of the ten months. And then finally. And he gained 22 pounds.

[Kenny]

Oh, every night.

[Jessica Lyman]

Chicken. You can't eat chicken penne pasta every night. Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Tell me this. Prior to this, it was a shot in the dark. He's sitting in the house one day, and you say to him, you just not going to sit here the rest of your life. What do you want to do? And you said, just for the hell of it, let's travel the world. You immediately start researching this. Prior to that, what was your time together like as a working married couple? Were you constantly spending time together?

[Jessica Lyman]

Yes, pretty much. We loved being together. We do. We're like, kenny, what do you think of that?

[Kenny]

Wow.

[Tom Lyman]

Well, we had a lake home, so we could fish on the pontoon and stuff. But sometimes after dinner, we'd just go sit at the end of the dock. She'd have a glass of wine, I'd have a beer and just fish off the end of the dock. And one of our dear friends, a neighbor lady, said, well, you guys must eat a lot of fish, and just says, no, I'm getting Tom away from the tv, and we can have a conversation, you know.

[Kenny]

Well, okay, so you brought up the pontoon. How do you deal with the little things? Like, when I'm ready to go out on the pontoon, I'm ready right now. And it's always, I'll be there in a second, and it's 30 minutes. How do you get by the little things like that?

[Tom Lyman]

Well, when it comes to the pontoon, every year, we'd need new ropes to tie the cleats to the, you know, dock for the pontoon. And I can tie my shoes, and that's the only knot I can tie that will come open. Any other knot I tie, it's there. So she used to come out and I'd have the new rope. She'd tie it around the dock. Crochet knot, and then around the cleat of the pontoon. I can't tie a knot.

[Kenny]

But my point is, they're never. They're never ready when they say they're gonna be ready.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're meaning wives.

[Jessica Lyman]

Oh, no. I'm always ready. Ahead of him.

[Patrick Royce]

Way ahead of him.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Jessica Lyman]

Oh, I'm always ready on time.

[Kenny]

So you're waiting for him. So what's your secret, then? I need to learn the secret of patience.

[Jessica Lyman]

Of patience.

[Kenny]

That's what I don't have.

[Jessica Lyman]

Here's the thing.

[Tom Lyman]

I don't have any patience.

[Jessica Lyman]

He has no patience. I don't bitch. I don't complain I'm not late, and I don't fight.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know what you are?

[Jessica Lyman]

What?

[Joe Soucheray]

A miracle.

[Kenny]

You're one in a million.

[Jessica Lyman]

No, but you know what? I made a conscious decision to do that because I wanted a happy life and be happy with my husband.

[Tom Lyman]

And when we used to fish, she'd put the night crawler on the worm herself. And she'd take the fish off the hook, too. Which is, you know, of an unusual. For a fingernail broad.

[Joe Soucheray]

I take it that that all got sold. The lake stuff and the boats, everything got sold.

[Jessica Lyman]

We have no storage.

[Joe Soucheray]

You have what's in your suitcases.

[Jessica Lyman]

In our suitcase. We don't even have stuff stored at our kids houses.

[Tom Lyman]

We got three suitcases. She has one. I have one.

[Jessica Lyman]

I have one suitcase with clothes. I own five pairs.

[Joe Soucheray]

And that's what you own in life.

[Jessica Lyman]

In life.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow.

[Kenny]

Okay, so your dream. I. I have your same dream, but it's scaled way down. I want to spend quality time in every state in the Union. I just want to drive around the United States for at least two years. Have you hit every state in the Union?

[Tom Lyman]

I don't do the U.S. we haven't yet. I figure as we get older. I'm 69. Jess is 74. As we get older, the world will shrink. And then we'll be doing the US And Europe probably, you know, Canada, too. North America. But as we still can, like to travel to South America.

[Joe Soucheray]

Will you stay with us for one more segment?

[John Hyde]

You know how we know that she doesn't like to fight? He just revealed her age on a show that reaches 2 million people.

[Kenny]

And I don't know such and Reavers. I don't know if you've noticed this, but she can give him silent signals when she needs to shut.

[Tom Lyman]

Up.

[Kenny]

When she needs him to shut up, she just puts her hand on his arm and. And he immediately stops talking. I've never seen anything like this.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, that won't do you guys any good because you don't want to own anything. But I want to remind the listeners that we're into the last couple of days of the moving sale at Ecofund Motorsports in downtown Forest Lake. They're right on Highway 61, but not for much longer. It'd be a great opportunity today and tomorrow to get to EcoFund because they want to minimize the amount of inventory they have to take to their new facility, which they'll be moving into. I'm thinking within the next five days or so. Tim will let me know. So they have 25 different types of Electric bikes. Caleb is an expert. You'll get the right fit and the right equipment. They have all those gas powered scooters that turn every urban errand into an adventure at 115 miles per gallon. They have a full line of Yamaha equipment. Great youth recreational stuff. Get a free T shirt with your purchase. And I'm serious, this is it. They're great, great sale prices right now at Ecofun. And then they're going to transform themselves and turn to this marvelous new building that they're building near their current location. So the current location again is Highway 61 in downtown Forest Lake.

[John Hyde]

If you're getting good and tired like I did of the big banks, well then I'm here to let you know about North American Banking Company. It's Reivers, by the way, here in the GL Podcast studios. I made the switch. You should too. North American Banking Company offers the same online and mobile banking options as the other banks, but with the unparalleled service of a community bank. And they're also locally owned and operated, which means loan decisions are made right here in the Twin Cities, not shipped out of state. And this helps business owners solve problems and expand their business with confidence. North American Banking Company deals with numbers every day, but you are never one of them. And their experienced bankers are ready to help business owners navigate all of the challenges and obstacles that come with owning a business. When North American banking company first opened back in 1998, they made a promise to deliver a better banking experience for their customers. Where you know your banker and they know you. While a lot has changed since 1998, this commitment to being a true community bank in the Twin Cities, well, that has not. So here's the deal. Go online. North American Banking company's website is nabankco.com nabankco.com, north American banking company member FDIC, an equal housing lender.

[Joe Soucheray]

This guy wears many hats, just not indoors.

[John Hyde]

Joe Sucre.

[Kenny]

Okay, I got a great email from a GL er about seafoam and this is something I hadn't thought about earlier. Hey Kenny, longtime listener, first time emailer. Anywho, been dumping by the gulp full can full about every other tank in both the roommates camry and my F150. Now get this. We've been upgrading our appliances one by one, starting with the microwave, then the dishwasher, then two days ago the fridge. All stainless steel. And man, do those leave fingerprints and handprints all over them. Looked online, people said grab a can of the blue and yellow stuff, put it on a soft cloth and apply. Well, I said bleep that. He got himself a can of Deep Creep and man did it do the job. So it ain't just for cylinders. It's way more versatile than that in a world of bad gas and fingerprinted appliances. Do yourself a favor, get some seafoam pushing. Back in Rochester, Minnesota, you heard it, G elers. You put a can in the cupboard right under the sink, Use it at your leisure, and you'll have a truly wonderful product in a world of dirty stainless steel.

[Joe Soucheray]

I guess you have a website, so there is a creative process involved here.

[Tom Lyman]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're not just traveling and not talking to anybody?

[Jessica Lyman]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

What is the website called?

[Jessica Lyman]

It's called Worldwide Waftage.

[Joe Soucheray]

What's waftage mean?

[Jessica Lyman]

It's from the old English dictionary, and it means to travel gently by air, sea, or land.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really?

[Jessica Lyman]

To waft.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, okay. WorldWideWoftage.com and what do visitors to your site get or see?

[Jessica Lyman]

There's no charge to go there. We do have advertisers. You know, we try to make a little money off of it, but we don't push the advertisers. People go in there for no charge and they can read. We've done almost 3,500 stories, which is equivalent to a chapter in a book.

[John Hyde]

I will make this available on all the garagelogic social media channels.

[Jessica Lyman]

Please do.

[John Hyde]

I'm doing it right now. This is really cool.

[Jessica Lyman]

And so we have people from all over the world, and many people write to us and give us suggestions when we're in their town or want to meet up with us. We go on a cruise ship and people recognize us from our website.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really?

[John Hyde]

Oh, that's cool.

[Jessica Lyman]

So it's kind of fun. I mean, we're kind of just shaking our heads.

[Joe Soucheray]

So there's a means to this end. You are communicating this way of life.

[Jessica Lyman]

Every day we do a new story.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Jessica Lyman]

Never miss a day.

[Tom Lyman]

I'm ancestry. Not with your ancestry. I would love to know. When they came over from Ireland, my ancestors, I know they were steerage. They weren't white tablecloth. So it's kind of when we started this, it was for our kids and grandkids and our siblings. And it has kept expanding and growing.

[Jessica Lyman]

And people from all over the world. And it just amazed us because originally we did it so we wouldn't have to write, you know, 50, 60 emails a day to everybody in the family.

[Kenny]

On what we're doing.

[Jessica Lyman]

So all of a sudden it just took off. And so it's a job can you.

[Joe Soucheray]

Take precautions from here on out to not ever get trapped again or is that just strictly was a freak of.

[Jessica Lyman]

COVID Yeah, that was, that was a.

[Tom Lyman]

Fluke and it's a pain that, you know you gotta take. The COVID test used to be 72 hours before a flight you take. Now they got it down to the day before. So now you almost gotta buy these at home Covid tests to do it. To be able to go on a flight.

[Jessica Lyman]

Covid has had a huge impact on our travels. It really has because there are many countries we would go visit, but the restrictions are so much that if you were going for a week or two, it'd be okay. But for us to go stay for a while, it's not appealing.

[Joe Soucheray]

What about the Far East? Have you done Japan?

[Tom Lyman]

No. Before COVID we had three cruises booked from Australia, Singapore and in around Japan and then come back to Seattle. Those three cruises got canceled.

[Joe Soucheray]

No China?

[Jessica Lyman]

No, we haven't done China.

[Joe Soucheray]

No. South Korea?

[Jessica Lyman]

No.

[Tom Lyman]

We went to Vietnam and I was hesitant about that because back in 1970, my ex brother in law was 19 and it was Kia in Nam and I was hesitant about going to Nam, but then talking to Vietnam friends of mine who are veterans, I'm not a vet. And when we were in Australia, Australians, Aussies were comrades and neighboring and they kept telling me to go and we went and we did a cruise on the Mekong river and it was. I was humbled by how the Vietnamese people was so outgoing and so welcoming.

[Jessica Lyman]

It was really an extraordinary experience.

[Kenny]

How do you deal with the language? Sorry, Chris. Language barriers in all these different countries, do you try to learn their language a little bit or do you get a local guide or what?

[Jessica Lyman]

The first thing we do is learn the word thank you. Oh, that's number one.

[John Hyde]

It's really smart.

[Jessica Lyman]

And once you learn that word, you can get so much done.

[Tom Lyman]

Oh, I'm going to tell this story. We were in Madeira.

[Joe Soucheray]

Not if she grabs your arm.

[Jessica Lyman]

No, you are.

[Tom Lyman]

We were in Madeira. It's a Portuguese speaking country off the coast of Africa, right? Small grocery store, butcher shop. And this young, young female butcher, she's in her late 20s and they had the signs up for the cow and the lamb and the pigs and you could point at what cut meat you want, right? And so she did that because we didn't speak Portuguese. Well then it was just the two of us. And this young female butcher just goes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Buck, buck, buck more.

[Tom Lyman]

And she grabbed her own breath. My chin hit my chest. And that young female butcher reached in There. And she cut four chicken breasts.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's how you get chicken breasts, but.

[Jessica Lyman]

That'S how you communicate.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, right here, baby, yeah.

[Tom Lyman]

I said, would you have done that after I was a male butcher? And she said, oh, Lord, no.

[Kenny]

What about the French? I keep interrupting you, Chris. I'll let you go next time. Are the French the pain in the ass that we assume they are, or are they pretty cool?

[Tom Lyman]

She took French for four years in high school and didn't use it for 50 years so she could read the menus, read the road signs. That helped a lot. And being that we stay someplace for a while, they get. They soften up. The Italians at first, too, were kind of. We spent three months in Tuscany. Yeah, Tuscany. And at first we didn't speak Italian, but then the locals kind of adopted us.

[Jessica Lyman]

We lived in a 300 year old stone house in a little town called Bevelho. And it's just little cobblestone streets that were steep hills and no one spoke English. And we had fantastic time.

[Joe Soucheray]

Good Lord. Wonderful.

[John Hyde]

So I'm going back to the very beginning. When you see him reading the newspaper with the television on, and he says, I want to travel the world, just basically to get you out of the room that week. How the hell do you budget that?

[Jessica Lyman]

I just sat down with my computer, an Excel spreadsheet, and I started figuring out what would it take for us to live in beautiful places throughout the world and be able to make it affordable with our retirement pension. And I did the math, and I'm kind of a numbers cruncher kind of person, and put it together. And the reality was we had to get rid of everything we own. We couldn't have car insurance, house insurance. We don't even have insurance in the US because we had to buy international insurance, health insurance. And so figuring all this out, we discussed it in January. We left on Halloween. It took that long. Every day, 12 hours a day. I worked on it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow.

[Jessica Lyman]

And booking, booking and booking. We booked out the first two years before the first two years before we even left.

[John Hyde]

Wow.

[Jessica Lyman]

Because if you don't have a home, there's a certain sense of security, knowing you have a place to go. Because we are not the kind of people that show up in a big city and don't have a place to stay.

[Joe Soucheray]

May I ask you a personal question? Neither of you wear wedding rings?

[John Hyde]

No.

[Jessica Lyman]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did you sell them?

[Jessica Lyman]

My wedding ring is in my son. My oldest son's safe in Las Vegas.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Jessica Lyman]

When you spend a lot. We've spent three and a half years In Africa. Out of the nine and a half years we've been traveling, you do not.

[Tom Lyman]

Wear jewelry, Even costume jewelry.

[Jessica Lyman]

They'll touch your hand off.

[Tom Lyman]

Or a ring. Oh, okay. They don't know the difference between real and costume. And they'd mug you for. You know.

[John Hyde]

You're kidding.

[Kenny]

Wow. Well, speaking of that, I've been wondering, have you ever been a victim of pickpockets or. Or muggings?

[Joe Soucheray]

No.

[Tom Lyman]

Knock on wood.

[Jessica Lyman]

We have.

[Joe Soucheray]

Great.

[John Hyde]

Because you don't have anything.

[Tom Lyman]

Well, I don't.

[Jessica Lyman]

He. He wears. We both have wallets that have.

[Tom Lyman]

Here's my wallet.

[Jessica Lyman]

We both have these.

[Tom Lyman]

What I do.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Tom Lyman]

You know, I got a clip like this. Can you see it, Kenny?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tom Lyman]

And I hook it on my belt.

[Josh Arnold]

Belt loop.

[Tom Lyman]

Yep. And then I shove it in my pants.

[Jessica Lyman]

You're not gonna get that.

[Tom Lyman]

I'm gonna get a feel.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm not even gonna try for it. No. So that's.

[Kenny]

That's a good tip.

[Jessica Lyman]

Rfid. Our wallets are rfid.

[Joe Soucheray]

What does that mean?

[Jessica Lyman]

It means that with one of those scanners, they can't go read your credit card numbers and your passport.

[Kenny]

Oh, right.

[Jessica Lyman]

Rfid. We did a lot of security things.

[Kenny]

So is your website, is it. Could it serve as a guidebook on how to do what you're doing?

[Jessica Lyman]

It does. We have a search bar, and if someone wants to look up health insurance, they can just type it in the search. But the reality is it's a dialogue of our day to day lives as homeless people that have no place that they call their own. And the experiences that we have day after day, and whether it's waking up in the morning in the bush and there's 12 giraffes in our driveway, or it's being in a foreign country and someone brings a basket of flowers to the door.

[John Hyde]

Have you guys been approached about this possibly becoming a reality television show?

[Jessica Lyman]

Two offers we've had and we've.

[John Hyde]

And you've turned them both down?

[Jessica Lyman]

We turned them both down.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really?

[Jessica Lyman]

We didn't do this to make money.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right.

[Jessica Lyman]

We did this for love.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, if they throw it enough at you, you might.

[Kenny]

Yeah, but it's very. It's very intrusive.

[Jessica Lyman]

I wouldn't give it. There is no amount of money that would make me give this up.

[Tom Lyman]

Really? Cool. Well, cool.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, I suppose the restrictions put on you if you had to be filmed would be incredible.

[Tom Lyman]

Right? Because if you went to a restaurant, they come in with lights and a microphone.

[Jessica Lyman]

We had offers for two book deals.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really?

[Jessica Lyman]

And we turn that down because then we'd be going to bookstores and signing.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yep.

[Jessica Lyman]

And we don't want anybody any. Dictating the terms, telling us how to live this life.

[Kenny]

This is a glamorous hobo life.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny]

I'm sorry I stepped on you. What did you say? I'm sorry.

[Jessica Lyman]

No, I love what he just said.

[Joe Soucheray]

Tom just said something that we.

[Tom Lyman]

Oh. I said, she's the only one that dictates.

[Kenny]

Right hand on the arm. No, what I said was this is like a fun, glamorous hobo life, which I've always wanted to do, but there's.

[Jessica Lyman]

Parts that aren't glamorous. Let me just say this. As much time as we like spending in Africa, and we've been to many countries in Africa, so it isn't just South Africa, but many other countries. And there's a lot of bugs. There's bugs in your bed. There's bugs on the wall. There's bugs on your clothes. You have to wear repellent around the clock. There's snakes in the veranda or in the house. The temperature will be 100 degrees and the humidity is 90. I mean, there's very many uncomfortable aspects, but we don't complain.

[Tom Lyman]

Okay.

[Jessica Lyman]

And because we don't complain, whatever it is, we deal with it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Now. It's been 12 years.

[Tom Lyman]

It will be 10 in Halloween.

[Joe Soucheray]

It will be now, during the 10 years, with the exception of Antarctica, which would be an obvious exception. Have you done all of this traveling to avoid winter?

[Tom Lyman]

Mostly because when we were talking about Antarctica early on, my siblings and friends of mine, co workers, are snowbirds. Typical Minnesota. And they go south. And that was a motivating factor. They end up with two homes, two expenses of everything, and by not having any, it's affordable.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's got to be a freeing feeling.

[Jessica Lyman]

That's the thing that we both love so much, is we are so free.

[Joe Soucheray]

Everybody, I think everybody innately would like to be a minimalist.

[John Hyde]

None of us are, except when it comes to cylinders.

[Tom Lyman]

Yeah, I have none.

[Joe Soucheray]

But that again, you are the ultimate minimalist.

[Kenny]

Yeah.

[Tom Lyman]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

You own three suitcases. That's it.

[Tom Lyman]

Yes.

[Kenny]

Wow.

[Jessica Lyman]

We have digital equipment and we have, you know, we have technology.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow.

[Kenny]

I can't even comprehend that. Such.

[Joe Soucheray]

No.

[Kenny]

I'm so bad that I carry a coffee maker with me when I go to a hotel.

[Jessica Lyman]

Our rationale is if it doesn't have something, we adapt. And so many times you write on our website, when we do a new post every day about adaptation and how important it is to us that we need to Be adaptable. We go into a place and the bed's not comfortable. Listen, we're sleeping in somebody else's bed. Around the world, if it's not comfortable, we go, oh, darn, it's not comfortable. We'll make the best of it.

[John Hyde]

How much research did you do ahead of. I'm guessing you did a lot, but how much research did you do ahead of time to adjust to certain diets in certain parts of the world? I mean, given that you might have an allergy or you might have something.

[Jessica Lyman]

Well, I have a special diet that I'm on. I kind of do a low carb diet which is made possible for us to travel because I got rid of some medical conditions that I had that were hereditary along with the heart disease that was hereditary. But I do this diet and it's very easy because every country you go to has meat, vegetables, salad, and when.

[Tom Lyman]

She says meat, fish, some kind of meat.

[Jessica Lyman]

There is no place that we can't find something.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are you a church going couple?

[Tom Lyman]

We used to work and when we got married, we got married twice because we were divorced. We got married by a judge here in Hennepin county and then we both got our previous marriages annulled because we're Catholic and then we got married in the church. But as we traveled, there isn't very many Catholic churches in the area because we're out in the outlying area.

[Joe Soucheray]

I gotta think there aren't any in Marleth Park.

[Tom Lyman]

There is, but maybe 20 miles away or something like that.

[Jessica Lyman]

Yeah, very crowded and it was, you.

[Tom Lyman]

Know, and then with COVID too, you know that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, yeah. Well, fascinating.

[Kenny]

I'm not done.

[John Hyde]

Neither am I.

[Kenny]

Sit back. What about island hopping? Exotic islands. And I don't mean just the Caribbean or Hawaii. Exotic locations. Small little islands, hard to get to.

[Jessica Lyman]

Yeah, we've done a lot of that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Fiji types things.

[Jessica Lyman]

Fiji, we spent four months.

[Tom Lyman]

We could. Because we go for what they could.

[Jessica Lyman]

Different islands.

[Tom Lyman]

Like most countries, it's 60, 90 or 70, 120 days. Fiji happened to be 120 days. So we spent 90 days on one island and 30 days on another island.

[Jessica Lyman]

The main island in Fiji is called Vanua Levo. And the one we stayed on for the longer period of time was Viti Levu. And it's a very small island and we were pretty much the only Caucasians there other than the sailboats that came in to replenish their food. And we loved every moment of it. Those people were amazing.

[Tom Lyman]

When we flew from the bigger island to the smaller island, What?

[John Hyde]

What's wrong, Kenny?

[Kenny]

I'm motioning Reavers next. Keep talking.

[Joe Soucheray]

Go, Tom.

[Tom Lyman]

Anyway, on a small plane with the door opens up and the stairs. Three steps are on the door to get. They not only weighed our luggage, they. We had to get on the scale. Oh, it's because they've got to know how to balance. And there was a lady in line ahead of us. She says, I'm not getting on that scale. And they said, you're not getting on that plane.

[Jessica Lyman]

And for us, we have to watch our weight, not only because we have one suitcase with clothes. They have to fit us today, tomorrow, six months.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right, Right.

[Jessica Lyman]

So we can't gain weight. So we very much are careful about. We only eat two meals a day. We don't snack. We don't eat junk food. Yeah, we have. Very careful to maintain good health.

[Kenny]

Go ahead, Kenny, has your perception about Americans changed with your travels? What do you think about us?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes. In what way?

[Tom Lyman]

Well, I was. I love my country, and I'm very much a lagrange logician. The country's changing, and as we've traveled, the world is divided, too. And as people, we met people when Trump was president, people that foreigners didn't like Trump and other ones in the same country did like Trump. So it was that. But I always say about the divided country, my dad was a Democrat. My mother was a Republican. They had 11 kids. They were married for 57 years. On election day, after dinner, they'd get in the car, and they used to go out to the kitchen door, and they'd say, we're gonna go cancel each other's vote. So we do that in my house. Divided the household.

[Kenny]

What about ugly Americans? Are we crass and crude and loudmouth like me, or are we genteel? The citizens, as we met.

[Joe Soucheray]

Jess wants to answer this. Didn't you get the arm grab? Didn't you get the arm grab?

[Jessica Lyman]

When we. When we took off on this, we made a commitment to each other for two things, you know, aside other things. But one of them was we'd never be the ugly American. We wouldn't leave a footprint behind that. People would say, oh, Americans have been here, Right? So we clean up. We're nice, we're kind, we're considerate, we're generous, and we do everything we can that people have a great memory of us. This couple that came here, great. The other thing is, we made a commitment that if either one of us ever got tired of doing this, we would tell the other, and the other would agree to quit.

[John Hyde]

And that hasn't happened yet.

[Joe Soucheray]

You haven't reached that point.

[Tom Lyman]

We check every twice a year. She'll ask me or I'll ask her and she asks me. And we agreed to that before we left Minnesota in 2012. And she'll say, you want to keep going? Do you want to stop? No, I don't want to stop.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you. Hell, if you stopped, you'd have to undo this life and start owning things again.

[Jessica Lyman]

And that is so unappealing.

[John Hyde]

And that never happened once in the 10 months you had to spend isolated.

[Jessica Lyman]

Never, Never once. In that hotel room at 3 o' clock every afternoon. I'd be done with the blog. I'd have that all taken care of. We'd do whatever financial paperwork we had to do. And then we would start streaming. We plugged in an HDMI cord because they didn't have smart TVs in India. And we'd plug in the agent and we'd stream shows and we'd ask our readers send us names of good shows. We'd sign up for any service so we could watch shows. So we sat there from three in the afternoon till we went to bed every night watching shows.

[John Hyde]

And I suppose if that didn't break you, nothing will.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, no, you're bulletproof now.

[Jessica Lyman]

Yeah, well, we feel that way because of what we've been through. We've just been through a lot. But none of it has felt like a sacrifice. And a lot of our family members said, well, why don't you come back, get a nice condo near the Mayo Clinic or a hospital and you can be the typical. I'm going to be 75 before you know it. Typical 75 year old woman that goes to doctor once a week.

[Patrick Royce]

Yeah, that's not me.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's not for you. I can't wait to be congratulated.

[John Hyde]

I can't wait for my wife to hear this. I'm going to have to book like.

[Tom Lyman]

25 trips for the guys when we meet other couples. And a lot of times it's the women who say, oh, I can't do it. Be away from the children and grandchildren, blah, blah, blah. I say to the guys, no shopping. And this woman used to have not just four seasons of clothes. Cause Minnesota, you got spring and fall.

[Joe Soucheray]

Tell me about it, pal.

[Tom Lyman]

And so to go from six closets, you know, and half of my closet in Narbonne to one suitcase to one suitcase, no shopping. It's fantastic.

[John Hyde]

And even along your way, you don't see a little gift shop or something and think nothing.

[Jessica Lyman]

I don't look at something and think, oh, I have to have that.

[Tom Lyman]

Never.

[John Hyde]

Interesting.

[Jessica Lyman]

Because if I buy something, I have to get rid of something I already have because there's no space. I have 23 kilos in my bag.

[Joe Soucheray]

You guys have room. You guys have room for an official. Your official now off site correspondent?

[Jessica Lyman]

Yes, thank you.

[Tom Lyman]

Because that's. I always put that on the OS off site.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I brought in two podcast stickers for your cars. But you don't have a car.

[John Hyde]

Put them on the suitcase.

[Kenny]

Yeah. They've traveled the world and you just gave them a sense. Stickers.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's a sticker.

[Tom Lyman]

That's all right.

[Joe Soucheray]

That came from our vast inventory of gifts.

[Tom Lyman]

I understand.

[John Hyde]

I hope I'm not getting too personal, but you mentioned the kids you used to have.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Hyde]

Do you get some pushback from them at times? Especially considering you had a pretty major health issue at that time?

[Jessica Lyman]

Yes, we did. Our kids are not happy we're gone. That's just a reality. And we understand that because they like having us around.

[John Hyde]

Sure.

[Jessica Lyman]

But our oldest son, who's just turned 55, who lives in Henderson, Nevada, he's thrilled for us. He's a bachelor. He thinks this is the greatest thing. But the other kids that have our six grandkids, they are not happy that we're gone all the time.

[Joe Soucheray]

No. Mimi and papa aren't there to do the daycare.

[Jessica Lyman]

There you go.

[Tom Lyman]

Exactly. Which she did before we started.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right.

[Tom Lyman]

And the other thing is, we changed our residency from Minnesota to Nevada back in 2012. Non income tax state. And we gotta have a mail service. Everything goes through the mail service. The only two things is for driver's license and voting. We use her son's address because they need a Steven. And after she had to triple bypass, Clark county in Nevada sent her things. She got called for jury duty.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, boy.

[Jessica Lyman]

About two weeks after I had the surgery, they wanted me to come to jury duty.

[Joe Soucheray]

And you told them I'm currently in.

[Tom Lyman]

The first thing they rebuttal.

[Joe Soucheray]

They were in Africa at that point.

[Tom Lyman]

They didn't take it. They said, you have to show or we'll issue an award for your arrest. So then she had to mail them all the doctors thing. And then they said, okay, being that you're over 70, you'll never ever get called for jury.

[Kenny]

Nice. So what does the next year entail for you? Where are you going from here?

[Tom Lyman]

We'll go back to Marlon. It's 90 days. We have to exit and leave and then in.

[Jessica Lyman]

And then we might fly out to Kenya and Go do some big safari thing in Kenya and then come back a week later and be back and get our visa stamped.

[Tom Lyman]

We do have three cruises booked, basically the whole month of November and December. And we leave out of Athens and we go to Israel and Egypt, back to Athens, that's 11 days. Stay on the ship, leave Athens to the Mediterranean, go to Lisbon, Portugal, stay on the ship, and that's 10 days. And the last one's 21 days. Goes down the west coast of Africa to Cape Town.

[Jessica Lyman]

I'll fly back to Milo.

[John Hyde]

Joe doesn't want to brag, but he did get a new fart button.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, I got one right here.

[Kenny]

Which. Where is the best beach you've ever been to? Where in the world?

[Jessica Lyman]

The Indian Ocean in Kenya.

[Tom Lyman]

Really?

[Jessica Lyman]

Absolutely pristine. The sand is white and so fine, and the sea is just aquamarine. It is so beautiful. But it's extraordinarily unsafe to walk on that beach. And there are no people on the beach.

[Tom Lyman]

And then Bali, too. The sands were black, you know, from volcano or whatever it is.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Hyde]

You know, is it not safe due to crime? Okay, sure.

[Jessica Lyman]

Crime is very big in Africa, I bet.

[John Hyde]

Sure. That much like you were saying, with jewelry.

[Tom Lyman]

Yeah.

[John Hyde]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jessica Lyman]

So we're very. We try to be as careful as we can, but there's still some risk.

[Tom Lyman]

Tall buildings. Yeah. We don't stay. Very seldom stay in the city because as you always said, the closer you get to tall buildings, there's too many people. There's pickpocket, there's crime. You get away from the tall building in our country or anywhere in the world, people are happier.

[John Hyde]

Is there one place that you're. That you've already scheduled or that you're looking forward to that you have not been yet?

[Joe Soucheray]

Soon.

[John Hyde]

Relatively soon.

[Tom Lyman]

We haven't scheduled. She came up with that in South America. Pantanel.

[Jessica Lyman]

Oh, there's a place in South America, and David Attenborough had a story on about it, and it's called the Pantanal, and it is most ecologically diverse marsh area in the world, really. More wildlife than anything. And you just go on a little boat and there's piranhas and.

[Kenny]

Oh, yeah, south of Argentina.

[Tom Lyman]

It's south part of Brazil in Argentina is called the Pantanal. It's. I don't. I don't want to call it the tributaries of the Amazon, but it's kind of.

[Jessica Lyman]

Kind of like that. But we had watched when we lived here, watched all those David Attenborough shows that inspired us for long so. So much that we went to the Great Migration. The day that we saw the Great Migration on that show, watching the big screen TV in the house, we said, we have to go there. And that was before we ever decided to do this. And it's something we got to do.

[Tom Lyman]

I was scared to go to Africa because I was the newspaper guy, watched the news on TV and like Kenny asked, I believed in my country. And the rest of the world's a scary place. She wanted to go to Africa. I was scared. I tried to talk her out of it for many months. And I'm happy she wants to go because I've really enjoyed it.

[Jessica Lyman]

Yeah, he loves it. The thing that was most profound for me is, you know, we're all from Africa one way or another. Whether we like that or not, that's a reality. When we went to Africa the first time, and we went to the Maasai Mara, this is in Kenya, and we went on a small airplane. And I had never been on a small airplane. He had, but I hadn't. And the pilot is sitting as close to me as Joe's sitting to me. You know, I'm right behind him and my knees are knocking. I'm holding my camera, but you can't see out the scratchy window of the little plane. And the pilot's name was Edwin. And he kept turning around and says, jessica, I'm going to get you there safely. I promise. Nothing to worry about. And we're flying over. We're heading to this place where there's no Runway. We're just going to be on the. On the.

[Tom Lyman]

You are dirt, gravel.

[Jessica Lyman]

And he says to me, jessica, look out the window to your right. And I looked out that window and I saw Mount Kilimanjaro. And when I get goosebumps when I say this, I saw that my life changed at that moment.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really.

[Jessica Lyman]

I bet when we get off that plane, I felt like I was home.

[Tom Lyman]

What she said there, because it was a small plane where the steps are in the door, and she says, I feel like I should kiss the ground. I said, you're not the pulp.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, we're going to link worldwide. Waftage.com yeah, I already have it on both the Twitter and the Facebook suggested. I really appreciate your time and keep these coming in because it's become a.

[John Hyde]

Bit we can do without help. May I suggest an addition from wherever you're at? How about a day in History of Mumbai, India, in addition to this?

[Joe Soucheray]

Hope you can find it. I don't want to give the guy work to know.

[John Hyde]

I just thought it Cool.

[Kenny]

You guys, I. I've been listening to such for years. Just blather on. And this is easily the most fascinating thing I've ever been a part of. This is so fascinating to me.

[Jessica Lyman]

Thank you. It's such, it's really an honor to us to be here. I mean, we're just really glad to be here.

[Kenny]

Such a great pleasure meeting you.

[Joe Soucheray]

And none of us had any idea, did we?

[Kenny]

No, no, no. I had no idea.

[Joe Soucheray]

We have never met before and the only communication we've had are these goofy. This day in history.

[Tom Lyman]

Yeah, emails. Exactly.

[John Hyde]

If I could make a travel suggestion. Waterville is really nice this time of year. Right on Highway 60. Oh, yeah, it's wonderful.

[Josh Arnold]

Wonderful.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you very much.

[Tom Lyman]

Ball game there.

[John Hyde]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Jessica Lyman, the traveling Lyman.

[Tom Lyman]

Thank you.

[Josh Arnold]

Thank you very much.

[Tom Lyman]

Thanks for having us.

[Jessica Lyman]

Thanks for having us.

[John Hyde]

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[Tom Lyman]

Not a Garage Logic Town council member.

[John Hyde]

Here's what you're missing, Joe, you know what he's referencing.

[Kenny]

No, DeLorean didn't.

[Joe Soucheray]

Back to the future farewell.

[John Hyde]

Oh, good for you. Probably because it's only the 160th time he's made the reference. Thompson, Minnesota's own Leah Thompson. She was a cutie pie in that movie.

[Joe Soucheray]

Cutie pie. Cutie pie. We have a lot of female listeners who were worried about me. Thank you, town council people.

[John Hyde]

Well, there was a lot of people that emailed them that were worried about you.

[Joe Soucheray]

Nothing to worry about. I had emails just to me, two people. Make sure Joe gets to see a doctor. He did a couple of doctor.

[Kenny]

A couple of gals got a hold of me and just wanted to make.

[Joe Soucheray]

Sure that I was okay. Go behind the scenes of Garage Logic.

[John Hyde]

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[Patrick Royce]

Yeah, go ahead.

[John Hyde]

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[Kenny]

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[John Hyde]

ProfessionalTurf.com Can I ask Patrick the same question I asked you earlier?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes.

[John Hyde]

Hey, Pat.

[Patrick Royce]

Yes, what's up?

[John Hyde]

How many? How would the game of flaws survive 10 months of isolation in the same hotel room together?

[Patrick Royce]

Who are we talking about?

[Joe Soucheray]

We just had as our guest the traveling linemans. They send us this day in Minnesota history every year, which is absolutely a corny bit. But we were intrigued that they've been sending them from all over the world. They live in Africa, they live in India. And we finally got to meet them today and they've been doing this for 10 years. They sold everything they own and they travel the world and they're a fascinating couple. And when Covid struck, they got trapped in Mumbai, India, in a Hotel for 10 months and were not allowed to leave the floor.

[Patrick Royce]

They have toilet facilities. That's what always worries me about India. Ever since I saw the movie where the guy jumped through the dong.

[Joe Soucheray]

Who wants to be A millionaire.

[Patrick Royce]

I do not want to go to India. I'm very worried about the toilet.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think they. They had. They were in a Marriott and they did have plumbing.

[Patrick Royce]

Yeah, I don't even like dog poop in the yard. I don't want to have it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, well, this again.

[Jessica Lyman]

That's not the question.

[Joe Soucheray]

This wasn't the question, Pat.

[Patrick Royce]

I think my wife and I could make all these trips, but we should make them separately. That's what. I go to Finland, I'll go to India, and we'll talk to each other. About what? The hotel room.

[John Hyde]

We'll FaceTime.

[Patrick Royce]

Well, we damn near didn't make it out of D.C. it was nice. The weather was nice. Everybody was happy. I still failed the game of flaw.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know what, Pat? It's even more telling than that. The lineman's don't play the game of flaws.

[John Hyde]

No, they like each other.

[Patrick Royce]

They like each other.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Patrick Royce]

That's good. That's good. Well, you know, what the hell, Maybe she's frisky and that takes care of her.

[Kenny]

Apricots. Did not come up.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, did not come up.

[Kenny]

Yeah.

[Patrick Royce]

Danny, as you were talking, I was. I had a question I've had my whole life.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Patrick Royce]

What qualifies as crabgrass?

[Kenny]

It's that stringy looking stuff.

[Patrick Royce]

Is it all tangled in the midst of your lawn?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes.

[Patrick Royce]

This tangle of crapola.

[Joe Soucheray]

And if you pull it up by hand and you do it carefully, you can get it all and watch it like tributaries in a stream. And it just comes up in one big clump.

[Patrick Royce]

And where does it come from? It's just very persistent stuff.

[Kenny]

Bird poop. Bird poop.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is it really Kenny? He has no idea he's making that up.

[Patrick Royce]

I have no idea either. I am at the. Speaking of a place without crabgrass, I'm at the yard right now. I got some early work to do and decided I talk my way into the yard early and man, it's fun to see him, you know, sprinkling the water and doing the whole deal.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is really the best warm weather game of the season for them.

[Patrick Royce]

Oh, the first.

[Joe Soucheray]

First. Really? The first.

[Patrick Royce]

Really?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, There was a warm Saturday about two or three weeks ago, but it was a 50 mile an hour wind.

[Patrick Royce]

Yeah, the wind was. That was the wind blowing out of the south 100 miles an hour. It was really weird. Yeah. This is the nicest day. Unfortunately for the twins, MnDOT is doing everything possible to keep people away from the ballpark. Saturday and Sunday, they are basically closing down the Twin Cities. What do you think of this Kenny, let's fix seven roads going the same direction on the same weekend.

[Joe Soucheray]

How about.

[Kenny]

I think there's nine full closures this weekend. Yeah. In downtown Minneapolis, the big One is southbound 35W closed between 94 and 46 all weekend. But in downtown St. Paul, if you're going to the wild viewing thing tonight, Westbound 94 closed between 35E and Kellogg. 10pm tonight until 5pm am on Monday.

[Joe Soucheray]

So are the Wild having that outdoor gathering like we've been seeing in Toronto and Florida? Yes. All right. There tonight, 8:30.

[Patrick Royce]

I have to take the grandson from a baseball game in Woodbury tomorrow to a hockey game in Brooklyn park. The middle of the afternoon. I'm gonna have to rent a helicopter from what I can tell.

[Kenny]

I would hop on 694 westbound and take the. The northern side of the loop. Do not go through the downtowns.

[Patrick Royce]

That is.

[Joe Soucheray]

That is.

[Patrick Royce]

694 is not bad.

[Kenny]

It's not on the list. I'm not making you any promises, but don't get on Highway 36 because that'll be shut down.

[Patrick Royce]

Yes, I saw that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, Pat, we had best mention that there 22 horses in the run for the Roses tomorrow. Huh?

[Patrick Royce]

They only let 20 in.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, there's 22 listed on the starting sheet. I don't know, Maybe they'll.

[Patrick Royce]

Maybe they added two more gates.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know.

[Patrick Royce]

They already had the last guy just about running in the stand. So I don't know. What? Yeah, but maybe, maybe there's two alternates.

[Josh Arnold]

In case somebody can't make it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Who are the two Minnesota horses? One of them has to be the Pioneer of Medina. I would think that's named for Medina.

[Patrick Royce]

No, no, Zandon, the favorite, the early favorite was. It was. It's a Kentucky horse, but it's Minnesota owned.

[Tom Lyman]

Okay.

[Patrick Royce]

And then the other one is Zazos or something and he's down the list. He's like 20 to 1. And there's another horse that has a partial owner from Minnesota, but two of these horses are owned by Minnesota people and that. And they have. And those people do run horses at Canterbury. I don't believe these horses have run at Canterbury because this is. This comes out from some of that high priced Kentucky bluegrass semen. These come out?

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah.

[Patrick Royce]

These are not.

[Joe Soucheray]

Those aren't cheap horses, are they?

[Patrick Royce]

No, these are not your Maple Grove horses.

[Joe Soucheray]

Xandon is three to one.

[Patrick Royce]

Yeah, that's pretty amazing. Now Xandon, there's a horse in there that's partially owned by Minnesotans that actually beat Zandon. In our last race. So it'll be a stampede, like all of them. Because the Derby used to be 13, 14, 15 maybe horses. And every year now 20 is the max. And they let 20 and 20 guy people want to pay to get in there. Sometimes they aren't really qualified and they have to pay a big supplemental amount of money if there's an opening and they'll do it, just take the shot.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm sensing a lack of interest in the race compared to years ago. Am I right or wrong?

[Patrick Royce]

Oh, I think unless you have some legendary horse that everybody says is going to win the Triple Crown this year, watch him. Yeah, it is.

[Jessica Lyman]

Yeah.

[Patrick Royce]

It's not what it was, but I think, you know, canning barrier still have 12,000 people out there.

[John Hyde]

I will say this too, because we were there last July. We were. We happened to be in Louisville, so we went and took a tour of Churchill Downs. And I was talking to the guide and he basically said, because they were renovating parts of the infield, and he said, we will not stop selling standing room only tickets. He said they'll have a hundred thousand people here on Derby Day.

[Joe Soucheray]

At Canterbury?

[John Hyde]

No, no, no. At Churchill, Delaware.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, Churchill. Yeah.

[Patrick Royce]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

There's a horse named Messier. I wonder if Mark Messier has any relation to that.

[Patrick Royce]

Probably some New York owner who loves him or something. Yeah, a lot of them. You know, you get a lot of them named after weird people.

[Joe Soucheray]

Sometimes you can figure out the owner by the name of the horse. Cyberknife. That's got to be owned by a prostate doctor.

[Patrick Royce]

Yeah, the expensive treatment.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's the newest thing in prostate surgery. They use something called a cyberdive. You know, the hell it is.

[Patrick Royce]

As long as you can. As long as you can pony up a hundred thousand or something.

[John Hyde]

You know, every time though the Derby.

[Patrick Royce]

Rolls around, if you're 80 years old and is it. Is it worth it? You know, the prostate? You're gonna die of something else anyway. Leave some money for your relatives, you know, rather than squeeze out a couple of more years.

[John Hyde]

Well, Pat, since it is Derby weekend, it always reminds me of one of my favorite Royce stories. When you took the American League Manager of the Year away from All Star Game festivities to go look at the horse.

[Patrick Royce]

Yeah, Got Tom Kelly to go down and see secretary at it. I picked him up at 6:00am we were in Paris, Kentucky, looking at Secretariat about 8:30. Seth Hancock, the guy who ran the farm, the owner of the farm, wanted to talk about baseball and Kelly wanted to talk about horses. And when we got back about noon, maybe 12:30. There's like six people on the sidewalk looking up and down, looking for Kelly, because no cell phone communicate anything. They thought he'd been kidnapped. But we went down and saw Secretariat and Kelly got. We got horseshoes from Spectacular bid. We didn't get them from SEC because Secretariat hadn't had new horseshoes for a while. But Spectacular Bid, which also won the Triple Crown, we got. We got horseshoes from him.

[Joe Soucheray]

But you still have those horseshoes.

[Patrick Royce]

Yeah, it might be. You know what I was thinking today? My memorabilia. I couldn't have a closet sale.

[Kenny]

Yeah, you're not like Bud.

[Patrick Royce]

People talk about garage sales. I couldn't have a. I don't keep anything. I hate the mess. I hate the mess.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, well, you could be like the traveling lineman. So.

[Patrick Royce]

We lost Carlos Correa last night. He got it. Why are they. Why did he get hit in the hand? If they hit you in the hand the first time, don't have your hand there the second time. Yeah, okay. But anyway, he's got a broken finger, so. Royce Lewis, the number one draft choice from a few years ago, who was playing over in St. Paul, will be the shortstop.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really?

[Patrick Royce]

Evening. He's. He's. He's in the lineup and. And you know, he's. He started off well in St. Paul. He missed. He didn't play in 2020 because there was no minor league season. He didn't play last year because he tore his ACL. So he's doing this with very limited, what, maybe 80 at bats in St.

[John Hyde]

Paul Rivers, something like that. How bad is the Korea? What's the timeline for him do?

[Patrick Royce]

We haven't heard yet, but he broke a finger. Be two months, probably All Star game.

[John Hyde]

You know, that's too bad, because he was playing really well for them.

[Joe Soucheray]

I broke a finger and it's. It was seven weeks this Tuesday, and I'm good now. I'm good.

[Tom Lyman]

Go.

[Josh Arnold]

You could hit.

[Joe Soucheray]

I could hit.

[Tom Lyman]

Okay.

[John Hyde]

If he knew how to hit, he could hit.

[Kenny]

Did it improve it or make it worse?

[Joe Soucheray]

I can make an 8.

[John Hyde]

You can make an 8.

[Kenny]

Dollars.

[Patrick Royce]

I think it was worth it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. What the hell? 8:30 start tonight in St. Louis. I would call it a very important tilt.

[Patrick Royce]

Make that 8:45. The big game is number five. The two teams are going to come home, come back to St. Paul tied two to two. And whoever wins the Thursday night game will win the. Will win the series.

[Joe Soucheray]

Even if it's the Wild having to go back to St. Louis.

[Patrick Royce]

Yes, the Wild will win it in seven if they lose Game 5 at home. Nobody ever goes on a road and wins game six. Although I think the Wild did it twice in 2003. But that was a long time ago.

[Kenny]

Yeah.

[John Hyde]

Did you see, by the way, that the. The Calgary and Dallas series. The fewest goals scored in two games since the 03 Wild and Mighty Ducks matchup. Three games or three goals in two games combined for both teams.

[Kenny]

So I watched a little bit of the Rangers game last night and I got bad news for you. If it's ever comes to Wild versus Rangers, we got no shot.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you said the same thing about St. Louis. You're saying the same thing about anybody.

[John Hyde]

The Wild play, it's his defeatist mentality.

[Kenny]

The Rangers were very impressive last night.

[Patrick Royce]

Although they couldn't lose game. They. They were probably so impressive because they.

[Joe Soucheray]

Lost game one, but they got robbed.

[John Hyde]

They. The Rangers got robbed.

[Patrick Royce]

They scored the goal and then played three overtime. Yeah, I think didn't. They came in here hotter than hell and our boys beat them.

[John Hyde]

That's true. Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Back in early March.

[Patrick Royce]

Early March one or something. So that's what I recall anyway. But. But I'll be here watching Paul tonight. So good luck to the fellas.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right, Patrick. That's fantastic. Got the Oaklands in town.

[John Hyde]

Yeah.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah.

[Patrick Royce]

The redone Oakland, which has had two crowds in the 2000s. The people are so mad at them.

[Josh Arnold]

They like.

[Patrick Royce]

They got rid of everybody and they're trying to get out of Oakland and go to Vegas, apparently. And things are not good there, but they're not terrible. They're hanging around 500, so.

[John Hyde]

And their payrolls. Is their payroll officially the lowest?

[Patrick Royce]

Not as much as Carlos Correa is making. Not the play. So.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow. I gotta think they'll draw a decent crowd today. It's so gorgeous out.

[John Hyde]

Yeah, they might do well.

[Patrick Royce]

They should just stay off Hennepin Avenue. As I said on Twitter and up and having. It was so torn up. Even the muggers can't find a corner to lurk on. There's nowhere to hang out. Oh, man.

[John Hyde]

Pat, I wanted to ask you. I wanted to ask you. What. What's the situation with Dave Benz and Valley Sports?

[Patrick Royce]

I don't know.

[John Hyde]

Oh, I thought maybe you had some inside.

[Patrick Royce]

They probably want to diversify. I was shocked to discover he had such a hardcore audience of fans. Somebody suggested he was. He might have been fired because he was too critical of the team. And I think they were serious.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Patrick Royce]

I said this morning, what do they. They want him in a full cheerleading uniform. Just. Just. Just being a 100% homer isn't enough.

[John Hyde]

If he did the game dressed up as Crunch, that'd be fantastic.

[Patrick Royce]

That's right. Yeah. Be there in the thing without the head on.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'll see you Monday.

[Patrick Royce]

We will. Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right. Yes, we will.

[John Hyde]

All right. See you, Pat.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you. I want to remind you that by the way, it's 69 degrees. This is a Friday in the spring.

[Kenny]

Let's just call it.

[John Hyde]

Do we have to call downstairs to the weather center?

[Joe Soucheray]

I think we should. Okay. Would you do that while I tell people about the great.

[John Hyde]

Gillers? You know this. It's officially mosquito season. So if you're tired of getting eaten up in your yard, call my friends at Mosquito Shield. Owned and operated by a couple of GL ers. It's Ray and Mike, the father and son team that own and operate two franchises right here in the Twin Cities. And their territory is all over the place but 169 and 35W all the way to the St. Croix, north to Forest Lake and down to Lakeville. Getting rid of mosquitoes and ticks, that's their expertise. They are not like other pest control companies that also spray for bugs. They focus on the mosquitoes and ticks only. And they have that proportionate proprietary blend of Mosquito Shield. You cannot buy this on the shelf. It was invented by the founder. It's used exclusively by the company. I tell you what, they're going to take great care of you and your yard. They come out every 10 to 17 days for an application and they do so until they go dormant around the end of September or October. And they also stand behind their work if for any reason that you're going to need them. In between applications, they will do an additional service call at absolutely no charge. And that's because they want you to choose when it's time to go inside, not the mosquitoes and ticks. So find them online. Moshield.com that's moshield.com and just put in your zip code and you're going to find them. Or give Kelsey and Mike a call directly at 612-619-1556. You mention GL and you are going to get $50 off your service.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Hyde]

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[Joe Soucheray]

And is the preferred choice among trap enthusiasts and waterfowl hunters for over 25 years. K&L is an authorized SKB shotgun dealer with a huge selection of youth models and has a huge selection of trap loads. Foul Hunting is right around the corner.

[Tom Lyman]

And it's never too early to start stocking up on waterfowl loads.

[Joe Soucheray]

KNL now has a lot of the.

[Tom Lyman]

Calibers that have been hard to find in stock. KL Surplus En Ammo is veteran owned.

[Joe Soucheray]

And offers first responder and veteran discounts. Mention GL and receive a 10% discount. K and L is also committed to safety and is a licensed FFL retailer.

[John Hyde]

Find out for yourself why KL Surplus.

[Tom Lyman]

And Ammo has been the choice of.

[John Hyde]

Gun owners for over 25 years.

[Tom Lyman]

Go to klgunstore.com that's klgunstore.com.

[Patrick Royce]

Finally.

[Tom Lyman]

Thank God, today is Friday.

[Joe Soucheray]

Tgt. It's the scramble.

[John Hyde]

You're damn right it is. It's Friday. And if you feel like celebrating, treat your sale to some brand new chill boys, which you can find [e-mail], the cool, soft and breathable, most comfortable underwear you will ever own. I am wearing the performance boxers today. The dark black is my favorite, by the way. They also have bamboo boxer briefs and they also have performance socks, long johns if you're still interested this time of the year. And hoodies, T shirts, all sorts of stuff. You go online, you place your order, and if your order is over $40, well, that ships fast and free throughout the entire United States of America. Go online, place your order, work with the best customer service team around and please, please, please let them know that you heard about it right here on the garagelogic podcast. Joe. Joe.

[Kenny]

Joe. I thought he went home.

[Joe Soucheray]

I did too. We're calling it. It's 70. It's 70.

[John Hyde]

Raise them up.

[Joe Soucheray]

The worst contest in the world is over. Somebody won a grill. We'll know Monday, right?

[John Hyde]

Should they still register?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, it's too late to win. The Traeger Grill from Fratelloni's Hardware and Garden stores now. It's verified on the KS news website. It's on our phones. It's.

[John Hyde]

Kenny's been monitoring the National Weather Service.

[Joe Soucheray]

And you forgot to bring in the history of the openers. Yep, we'll have to have those Mondays. I think this is a rather late opener. May 6th. Is it today?

[John Hyde]

I believe. Because I did when I was in the process of moving, that's when I discovered that I still had the list of openers.

[Joe Soucheray]

Very important.

[John Hyde]

I do believe there was a late May opener.

[Tom Lyman]

It could have been.

[Kenny]

I guarantee you, fellas, there's gonna be controversy surrounding this.

[John Hyde]

Probably.

[Tom Lyman]

I'm a mayor.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm saying it's 70.

[Kenny]

I guarantee you there's gonna be controversy.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know what else Today is.

[John Hyde]

Here's the best part, Kenny. We just blame Joe when we're off the hook.

[Kenny]

It's his fault. That's what we always do.

[Joe Soucheray]

Today is the 57th anniversary of the worst tornado outbreak in Twin Cities history. I remember it well. I witnessed the funnels. In 1965, six tornadoes hit the metro area during the night of May 6. The National Weather Service reported severe damage in six counties across the metro, primarily on the western and northern sides. Neighborhoods from Norwood, Young America and Waconia to Minnetonka and through Fridley and Blaine were hit. Four tornadoes were F4 on a scale of five. Wind speeds of more than 200 miles per hour. I could just see them from the end of the dock on the east shore of White Bear Lake. I could see contrasting funnels on the western horizon. Wow. So those were the ones attacking Fridley and what have you.

[John Hyde]

Remind me then. So you in 65, not only he had this, but you had horrific flooding too.

[Joe Soucheray]

That was the flooding here, yeah.

[Tom Lyman]

Yep. Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow. In fact, that's a good point.

[John Hyde]

Thank you.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did the tornadoes precede the flooding? I think they had to.

[John Hyde]

Well, the flooding would have taken place in April, wouldn't it?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. Well, anyway, many, many listeners remember that night in 1965.

[Kenny]

I was almost one month old.

[Joe Soucheray]

And we've had such a different show today.

[John Hyde]

Look at all the material you didn't get to.

[Joe Soucheray]

I've got two shows of material here that I gladly ignored. Listening to the travel, I had a.

[John Hyde]

Gut feeling that that was going to be spectacular. I don't know why.

[Kenny]

I've already been to their website suits. You've got to hop on their website. It is fascinating.

[Joe Soucheray]

Worldwide waftage.com and you can go to.

[John Hyde]

The Garagelogic, Twitter and Facebook page. Both of them are posted there if you would like.

[Joe Soucheray]

There is a news that I that I can't ignore, and that is we have our replacement as the White House press spokesman spokeswoman. Apparently Psaki lined up a better gig at MSNBC or something. And so we have a woman. And I'm going to keep it positive. She has the best. What's the word I want?

[John Hyde]

Checklist.

[Joe Soucheray]

What do you. She has the best resume. She has the best resume of any mysterion I've ever come across. She hits every box. She's fantastic.

[John Hyde]

All right.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I'm doing that in a positive way. Her name is. The hell's her name? Karine Jean Pierre. And she has been around the White House since the Obama days and she's been a deputy Press secretary. Let's take her around the bases, shall we?

[John Hyde]

Okay.

[Tom Lyman]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

She's a first. That gets her to single. Cause she's the first one Black woman. Got it. That she's black. Gets her to second base. She's also LGBTQ by X, E, Y, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. That gets her to third base. But the best is her at bat with the bases loaded. Her partner of seven years is a CNN White House correspondent.

[John Hyde]

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

[Joe Soucheray]

Whose name is Susan Malview.

[John Hyde]

Jo, isn't that a conflict of interest?

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, you don't worry about it. That's fine. You can believe every word down the computer.

[John Hyde]

Do you think when she gets asked a question by her partner, she'll say, well, honey, in response.

[Joe Soucheray]

Soon after Jean Pierre's new gig was announced, Alex Marlowe, editor in chief of the right wing news outlet Breitbart, tweeted, this is one of many examples of the corporate media literally in bed with the government it covers. Yes, literally. These two are. These two. I think they have a child together. I don't know how they did that. They must have had some. They had help. They had help. And. And so here you have it. She's. She hits every. That is a home run. Wow. She's a first. She's a black, she's a female, and she's LGBTQ. Y, N, B, C. She also partners.

[Kenny]

With CNN and she was the chief public affairs officer for moveon.moveon.org Yes. A former political analyst for both NBC and Ms. And political affairs for Obama.

[Joe Soucheray]

You literally are not going to be able to take one word of sincerity from this woman in her new role. Not one.

[Kenny]

Psaki calls her a partner in truth.

[Patrick Royce]

Right, right.

[John Hyde]

So what gig is Psaki getting out of this?

[Joe Soucheray]

I think she's getting a television gig on cable. They've been the White House. A chief of. What do you call these people?

[John Hyde]

White House Press secretary.

[Joe Soucheray]

Press secretary. A lot of press secretaries have used it as a springboard. Sure, just get better gigs.

[John Hyde]

Kenny, remind me, which one was your gal during the Trump administration?

[Kenny]

The one that frightened me. I can't remember her name, but yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wasn't she the daughter of the Arkansas guy?

[Kenny]

I don't know. But I know whenever I see her, I know that I've been a very, very bad boy and I'm probably gonna have to be punished.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you know what? I'm saving all this stuff.

[John Hyde]

You got Monday show already in the books.

[Joe Soucheray]

Then I'll determine such.

[Kenny]

I don't know. I We are a podcast and we don't do traffic. But Royce made a really good point. There are a lot of closures. And normally I wouldn't bring this up, but I know a lot of people, the younger, the younger generation, they don't listen to the radio and they don't watch TV and they might not know. So I just want to mention a couple big ones, big ones that will affect your life. Westbound 94 closed between 35E and Kellogg tonight, 10pm until 5am on Monday. Both directions of 494 are going to be closed right around the 35E Pilot Knob Area 55. A lot of people already know this. Closed through Mendota Heights, westbound 55. This is a big one. You can't get over the Mendota bridge on westbound 55 in South Minneapolis. Southbound 35W closed between 94 and 46th Street. That's tonight. All through the weekend. Highway 36 between Edgerton and 61. Highway 36 at Manning. Highway 10, both directions between Ferry and 7th. That's in Anoka. Highway 10 closed at 169 in Elk river and both directions. This is for you weekenders. Both directions of 169, a single lane in Elk River.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know who doesn't have to worry about that?

[John Hyde]

Who's that, Joe?

[Joe Soucheray]

The Lymans.

[John Hyde]

Yeah, no doubt the Lymans.

[Joe Soucheray]

Say we got a.

[John Hyde]

By the way, really quick. You know what I thought to be really quick when I walked them out to go back to their car. Here's another key of how they did. Like they were holding hands when they left the building. I thought that was charming me. Hell, I thought that was so charming.

[Joe Soucheray]

Kenny. Kenny. You didn't see it, but she was holding his hand in here.

[Kenny]

I've.

[John Hyde]

They like each other. I love that.

[Joe Soucheray]

I do too. I think it's fantastic.

[Kenny]

I think one time she might have fallen down in the joint bar and I. I gave her a hand getting up.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kenny]

She passed out and fell out of the car. You know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. What are you going to do? Time hack 10333 of Tuesday's podcast made me spit out my beer.

[John Hyde]

Uh oh.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm sitting on a train from Stuttgart, Germany to Mannheim on my way up to Ramstein Air Base to spend the weekend with the bride, listening to the banner about nude beaches when Kenny blurts out I've seen the Germans. I was in mid drink when my brain involuntary imagined all all the people around me in the buff. I managed to keep most of the mess contained to myself and apologize to the 70 ish year young frulein seated next to me. Thanks for the laugh, Chris from Iowa. But right now in Germany.

[John Hyde]

That's spectacular.

[Kenny]

I have to admit, I was fishing, and I wanted it to happen organically. When I asked the Lymans about beaches, I was hoping they'd go there without prompting, but I let it go.

[Joe Soucheray]

And Dennis says, the contest. I want to enter that contest to win the Fiat. So please enter my guests today.

[Kenny]

Fiat.

[Joe Soucheray]

See, this is why it was the worst. And then he says, P.S. i did this correctly, didn't I? The contest is over. We hit 70. Although this guy said. When did he mail this?

[John Hyde]

Yesterday.

[Joe Soucheray]

I believe he mailed this. No, he mailed this at 8:12am this morning, and he predicted today at 1:37pm Whoa.

[John Hyde]

He almost nailed it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, but he's not registered, and we're.

[John Hyde]

Not giving away a Fiat.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I'm not just giving him a car.

[Kenny]

Come on, Oprah.

[John Hyde]

You get a car, you get Fiat.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you. You've met them.

[Tom Lyman]

Now, wait.

[John Hyde]

Now we can say, because they came to us from St. Paul, only because.

[Joe Soucheray]

They'Ve come to us all the way from this studio. From Tom and Jessica Lyman, the traveling Lymans, it's on this day in Minnesota history. On this day in 1834, May 7, two Presbyterian missionaries from Connecticut, Samuel W. And Gideon H. Pond, arrived at North. I'm sorry. Arrived at Fort Snelling, and soon began working with the Dakota on the shores of BDE Maka Ska. The Pond brothers would develop a Dakota Alphabet, publish a Dakota newspaper, and record many traditional Dakota practices during their years as missionaries. On this day in 1840, soldiers expel Selkirker squatters from the Fort Snelling military reservation and burn their cabins. Although the Selkirkers had moved to escape the fort's boundaries a year before, a new survey showed that they remained within the military's jurisdiction. The settlers then relocate to the site that would become the city of St. Paul. On this day in 1865, a group of Cutlerites, a branch of the Mormon Church that had faced discrimination elsewhere, arrived at Clitherel Lake and lay the foundations for the first permanent settlement in Otter Tail County.

[Kenny]

Oh, b. I've never heard of that.

[Joe Soucheray]

And on this day in 1896, groundbreaking ceremonies are held for the third state capitol building, the one we have now, I believe. Right. Designed by Cass gilbert, and in 1897, on this day, bought a lot of stuff. This day, huh? The New York Times prints an article headline named by the President Stanford Newell of Minnesota, nominated for Minister of the Netherlands. It goes on to report that Mr. Newell, appointed Minister to the Netherlands, is one of the prominent Republicans of Minnesota. He has never held public office, but has been connected with the Republican State Committee and during some of the most important campaigns, was its chairman. His appointment is due to the request of the Republicans of Minnesota without regard to faction on this day in 1948. Mary Ann Courtou, who later became known as the singer and songwriter Mary McGregor, was born in St. Paul in 1976. She recorded the pop song Torn between Two Lovers, which became a number one hit the following year. She married Paul D. McGregor on November 13, 1971, but they later divorced. And finally, finally, I've already mentioned it. On this day, tornadoes in the northern Twin Cities suburbs, including those known collectively as the fridley tornadoes, killed 14 people and caused $57 million in damages. It was on this night in 1965. I remember it clearly. Remember it clearly.

[John Hyde]

I did send an email and notified the staff that the mayor has declared a.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, it's not the mayor. The temperature. We went with an official site. Not making it up.

[John Hyde]

Kenny was accurate.

[Kenny]

Yeah, we're gonna go with the mayor declared. We're just gonna go with the mayor declared.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm not done, man. I want to tell you about the center of the American experience.

[John Hyde]

Please do. Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

We need them now more than ever. A great think tank that's been in our midst for 30 years with a great website, AmericanExperiment.org great papers that they produce, great research, they bring in speakers, they stage events, they. They're trying to make Minnesota much more sane and reasonable place to live. And most recently at a tax rally at the Capitol, trying to get back that $9.3 billion or at least drive some common sense into the people deciding what to do with that tremendous amount of money. They're great thinkers. I'm not going to call them a conservative think tank. They're just a think tank full of common sense people. And you'll enjoy the website and you'll enjoy what they produce on a daily basis. It's americanexperiment.org you know how over the.

[John Hyde]

Years you have often declared that we're gonna have a 6 o' clock meeting, meaning that either Ruck or I or Kenny are in trouble, right?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Hyde]

Pretty sure management's gonna call a 6.

[Joe Soucheray]

O' clock meeting today just for the mayor, just for Joel. I can't stop laughing.

[Kenny]

Because everything you think you have a.

[Joe Soucheray]

Handle on right there, it says 70.

[John Hyde]

I agree with you.

[Kenny]

It's shambles.

[Patrick Royce]

Everything.

[John Hyde]

The worst contest in history ends in utter disaster.

[Kenny]

It's like married forever.

[Joe Soucheray]

Just a disaster.

[Jessica Lyman]

It's just.

[John Hyde]

You know what it is?

[Tom Lyman]

Good luck, Joe.

[John Hyde]

It's delicious, isn't it? G ers, do us a favor. Hit the subscribe button on the Garage Logic YouTube page where today I will cut up the two part interview that we have with the traveling linemans. And I'm looking forward to watching that later today. Also visit us on our social media channels. Channels, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, where you can see the traveling lineman's really cool.

[Kenny]

I guess it's gonna be the Krabby coffee shop show Monday through Friday from now on.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm in that much trouble.

[Josh Arnold]

We don't know that.

[Jessica Lyman]

What the hell did I do?

[Josh Arnold]

Have a good weekend.

[Kenny]

Suchi boy, give me a shot.

[Joe Soucheray]

Give me a chore out there.

[John Hyde]

You know what? The day after Christmas doesn't stop. Mr. Money Talk. It's Reivers here in the GL podcast studios and it's time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in garagelogic. And you know what? Now is the time for you to do the same. So don't delay. Why would you at this point pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608 and that number once again is 952-925-5608. You see, when you call that number, you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free. Yep, I use the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And you will always get the straight talk. You will never get the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And Josh, you know what? The day after Christmas, what'd you get?

[Josh Arnold]

I got some Chinese food and tickets to a movie.

[John Hyde]

Wonderful.

[Josh Arnold]

It was, it was tremendous. Had a very, very, very good good day yesterday. Talking, talking to a few clients, talking to my kids before they went on their respective trips. But the so and I went went to see Song Sung Blue which is based on a true true story starring Kate Hudson and Hugh Jackman and Jim Belushi. If you are a Neil diamond fan as I am and have been for just a few decades, you'll really enjoy this, this adaptation of a true true story. Music was great, acting was great. And the Chinese food afterwards from the Asian house just off Cahill and 70th in Edina was very, very good. That's what I got for for Christmas. I understand your Christmas gift was tickets to see the Vikings win over the Detroit Lions.

[John Hyde]

Yes it was.

[Josh Arnold]

And that game and the next one were broadcast on Netflix, although we got to see it on the local CBS affiliate wcco. You got to see also I'm guessing a very interesting halftime show.

[John Hyde]

It was pretty wild, Josh.

[Josh Arnold]

So looked like there was a big crowd. Everybody dressed not in purple but in white. I guess that was symbolized that the snow from up here or definitely New Year or maybe it was the white Christmas.

[John Hyde]

Yes it was.

[Josh Arnold]

But in talking to one of my clients out who's who lives out in Aspen, he's very upset. Not enough, the temperatures are too warm, not enough snow for him. Excuse. So he just. Excuse me. He's looking for a little, little cooler weather and a lot more white out there. I think his son who's on the way to being a world class mobile skier is also looking for a lot more, a lot more snow. And then the local, or I'll say formerly local skier who's made a big comeback starting last year and into this year qualified for the Olympic team, that being Lindsey Vaughn. So and I'm guessing that she and the Olympic team are looking for a lot of, a lot of snow with the Olympics coming up just before my sign of snow spring that being pitchers and catchers report. So one of my wishes for I'll say for the new year is the Twins can win more than 85 games and wouldn't that be, wouldn't that be very nice. And speaking of games, well plenty of games on TV and that's one area going forward that I would continue to concentrate on the areas of focus that I have had with for myself and my clients for decades now. I've been focusing in on companies involved in the Internet. Companies revolving around leisure, China related businesses, real assets and then doing a little bit of short term trading to take advantage of some of the volatility in the marketplace. Next year to me continues to be big for artificial intelligence and expansion thereof. And many of the companies involved in this do have a significant amount of money and are large. Where companies are going to have some issues are going to be companies that are overextending themselves or taking on a lot more leverage and that could bring in to question their ability to complete projects. We've seen that in the last quarter with Oracle dropping 30, 30% now that could change in the new year, but that's something to consider. Oracle will say another leading company in AI Nvidia took a big position $20 billion in a private company called GROK to latch onto their lead in in chips also related to artificial intelligence. And while 20 billion might seem to be a big number for a company with the cash flow of Nvidia, that is actually a small, smaller purchase and probably just as much defensive for them as offensive for that. Nvidia does face plenty of challenges, not only in the chip space from players here in the United States, whether that be AMD or from Broadcom or even some of the other custom chip manufacturers and even some of the other companies, whether it be an Apple, a Google or an Amazon that are also making chips for artificial intelligence. And forget even the Chinese companies that are becoming involved. The chip space next year is going to continue to be very, very competitive. So that is some place to pay attention to AI software. Well, again, leaders are still in that big, big group, whether it's favorite Amazon or Google or Meta or Microsoft being among amongst the leaders. Google, Google stock has had the biggest run this year. Favorite Amazon really trails. And going into next year also there are going to be questions around Tesla.

[Patrick Royce]

And.

[Josh Arnold]

Whether their push into robotics, robo cabs and even what they're doing with their SpaceX program and how that is going to impact the company and the markets. Look for SpaceX to go public sometime next year. And if that is not one of the largest just IPOs, then OpenAI.

[Patrick Royce]

Which.

[Josh Arnold]

Is developed chat GPT, you know, might, might be a competitor, you know, on that front for most people, which would include my clients, have to wait until the stocks actually start trading, though there are a few mutual funds that do own shares of these currently privately held funds. But AI is going to continue to be, we'll say, a theme. We will talk about going going forward, as will spending on leisure when I bring up the Olympics. Now you both have the Winter Olympics coming up, the Summer Olympics and the World cup and that could help, we'll say could help my shares in Nike. Nike is going through a turnaround that like any turnaround, is going to take a lot longer than most people anticipate. Nike did get a little boost not only from better than expected earnings, although some would say, geez, Josh, they did better than expected earnings. The stock went down. Yes, we talked about that. That could happen. As analysts looked at some number, a group of numbers and said, not good enough. In the case of Apple, or excuse me, with the case of Nike, Nike reported better than expected numbers. They were, as you would be in a case of a turnaround, very cautious on their next several quarters, but analysts will say pummeled the stock because of China not being up to their expectations. To take advantage of that. Two board members of Nike, one of which runs my favorite fruit company, Tim Cook, made a, I'd say a significant buy in Nike after the earnings came out. And that I'll say gave some investors, we'll say, another vote of confidence. But Nike fits in that leisure category, as does two of my other favorites, Live Nation, which has some issues going forward with Ticketmaster, and tko, which owns Ultimate Fighting. And I'll say worldwide entertainment or pro pro wrestling. And then with some of the media wars going on, well, as I said, Netflix is it. Netflix is involved, but, but after their showing with football Thursday night, I'm not sure that people are going to want Netflix for their sports, but they might want Fox for their sports and Fox could end up being one of the better players in media. On the downside, expect more volatility in the markets next year. Expect concerns about the direction of interest rates, particularly with a new Fed chief being appointed sometime in May and the Fed getting pushed by the administration to cut interest rates. Though inflation numbers are still above their.

[Patrick Royce]

Target.

[Josh Arnold]

And the GDP number is still showing some pretty significant.

[Patrick Royce]

Growth.

[Josh Arnold]

That'll be a concern. Another concern, of course is the midterm elections. There'll be a concern about the impact of Trump's tariffs, I'll say tariff policies and how that is impacted. What could be a positive will be the impact of the big beautiful tax cut, though a negative early on.

[Patrick Royce]

Could.

[Josh Arnold]

Be the Democrats shutting down the government again with their non votes on the continuing resolution that comes up again at the end of January. That said, going to be an interesting year. Make sure that you're our asset allocation model still has significant amounts of cash to take advantage of any of these pullbacks.

[John Hyde]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. MoneyTalk. Well, you heard him G Ellers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free. Yes, I use the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation and you will always get the straight talk. You will never get the sugar coated advice. And you know what Mr. Money Talk, you are the absolute best in the business. Thank you from me, from Joe, from the entire garagelogic crew and all of the Galers that rely on you from that straight talk and never sugarcoated advice. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. You are the best in the business, sir.

[Josh Arnold]

Thank you very much. I do appreciate that. We'll talk to you next week.

[John Hyde]

You got it Josh. Talk to you then.

[Josh Arnold]

Thanks Chris.

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[John Hyde]

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