MISCHKE: Just a Good Ol' Show (ep.106)

Summary

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Garage Logic – "MISCHKE: Just a Good Ol' Show" (ep. 106)

Date: April 29, 2026
Host: Mischke (via the Gamut Podcast Network)
Featured Guests: Christy, Ryan Young

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Episode Overview

This episode exemplifies "just a good ol' show," blending classic Garage Logic sensibilities—nostalgia, music, musings on everyday life, and conversations with ordinary folks. Mischke weaves humor, local flavor, and sharp observational wit through tangents both personal and universal, including deep dives into news theme songs, the evolution of songs about women, and enlightening chats with listeners about modern dating and music.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nostalgia for Old News Themes and Their Impact

• Mischke opens with a riff on the KSTP Eyewitness News theme song, exploring its earworm quality and the importance of its signature drum hit.
• He draws a parallel between iconic snare hits in TV themes and in classic songs like Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone," quoting Springsteen’s fascination with such moments.
• Notable quote:
  “Springsteen always used to talk about the hit of that snare at the start of Like a Rolling Stone. … There’s that smack of that drum, just hit him right in his core.” [03:39]

2. Comic Interlude: A Sleep Supply Telemarketer Call

• Mischke answers a real (or staged) call from a medical supply company, blurring lines between comedy and reality.
• Delivering deadpan one-liners and absurdities (like his insurance being with "Steve" who also sells corn), Mischke turns an otherwise mundane call into sketch radio.
• Notable quote:
  Adapt Health Rep: “Can I get you to verify your date of birth…?”
  Mischke: “Sure. I was born September 19, 1962. It was a Wednesday. They say Wednesday’s child is full of woe.” [06:32]
• Mischke jokes about prescription acid and pivots back to what’s on his mind.

3. Music, Gender, and 1970s Culture Critique

• Mischke describes having "I Am Woman" by Helen Reddy stuck in his head and investigates its cultural context.
• Contrasts "I Am Woman" with the regressive 1966 song “Born a Woman” by Sandy Posey, reading and mocking its lyrics.
• Explores 70s advertisements’ reflections on women’s roles, like the Enjoli perfume jingle and Ivory Girl, devising an imaginary battle between the Enjoli Woman and the Ivory Girl.
• Mischke tries to write a male version of "I Am Woman," full of self-deprecating humor.
• Notable quote:
  “If you’re born a woman, you’re born to be hurt. You’re born to be stepped on, treated like dirt. … Step on me, baby. Treat me like dirt. Oh, more, more. I love it. This is the song of a masochist. So Helen Reddy comes along and says, hey, I’m woman, hear me roar…” [12:20]
• Segment underscores how societal attitudes toward women have evolved.

4. Listener Calls: Online Dating in the Modern Era

With Christy (starts ~[21:23]):

• Mischke finally gets through to a listener after a string of voicemails.
• Christy works at a medical device startup; for fun, she and her boyfriend ride motorcycles and visit bars.
• Discusses meeting her boyfriend on Bumble, describing the app’s process and the initial contact.
• Candidly relates dating app horror stories: one disastrous Applebee’s date that escalated into a parking lot confrontation, and another later revealed to involve a future criminal.
• They reflect on old vs. new dating, pitfalls of online connections, and why modern romance can feel so hit-and-miss.
• Notable moment: The Applebee’s disaster story, including a surprise confrontation with a woman yelling at Christy’s date, which ends with Christy fleeing for safety.
• Notable quote:
  “All of a sudden, this truck comes flying in the parking lot, screeches the brakes, and some woman…gets out and starts screaming, ‘you son of a b—!’ …I’m gonna get in my car and go home and you’re gonna lose my number and never call me again.” [26:16-27:31]
• They muse on the circumstances that make relationships click (“it’s almost more a miracle that it ever works than it doesn’t to me” – Mischke, [29:44]).

5. Modern Communication Frustrations

• Mischke bemoans missed connections and the impersonal nature of big banks vs. neighborhood ones, contextualizing anecdotes with his signature humor. [33:05]

6. Aging, Death, and Legacy

With Ryan Young (~[35:36]):

• Fiddle player from Trampled by Turtles answers and discusses his work, health, and reflection on mortality.
• Mischke ruminates on obituary pages as comforting companions in hospice, quoting Jesse Ventura:
  “Are you afraid to die?...No…because weaker people than I have done it.” [39:05]
• Ryan recalls an analogy for death: the fear of a fatal fall, but in reality, only a short drop.
• Conversation veers into family legacy, uncles, and Mischke’s comedic childhood memories.

7. Music Industry Stories: Serendipity of Hits

• Ryan shares about being an extra (playing fiddle) in a Jeff Nichols movie, performing “Your Love” by The Outfield on repeat ([41:32]).
• Musicians lament the unpredictability of which songs become hits—most notably, how Trampled by Turtles’ most popular song was almost left off their album.
• Discussion about Clive Davis’s near-mystical ability to discern hits, the multiplicity of human “intelligences,” and Costner’s contribution to “I Will Always Love You”’s iconic acapella intro.
• Notable quote:
  “There are people in this world who actually have that knack and that skill. …Clive Davis… he knows this is it… there is something in that song that works, and he can see it, he can feel it, he can hear it.” [45:53-47:37]

8. Listener Engagement and the Evolution of Audio Media

• Ryan reveals he listens to episodes in order, even when not strictly necessary, which initiates a discussion about podcast consumption vs. live radio.
• Mischke reflects on how calling listeners directly (rather than the opposite) is his “game changer,” adding a unique participatory element to his show ([50:45]).
• Steve Cannon anecdote: “If they want to be on the air, why don’t they get their own show?” Mischke: “No, no, it’s not like that. It’s an interesting added element.” [51:06]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the power of a drumbeat:
  “I could just isolate that and listen to that for a 20 minute stretch. Come on. Another. Yes, more. Wow. God, doesn’t that do stuff to you, man?” – Mischke [04:00]
• On women in 60s/70s music:
  “This is the song of a masochist. So Helen Reddy comes along and says, hey, I'm woman, hear me roar...” – Mischke [12:20]
• On modern dating disasters:
  “At that point did you say to yourself, I’m gonna look at that profile again and see if there were clues I might have missed?” – Mischke [27:31]
• On existential reflection and death:
  “All in all, it's time for me to start analyzing that and if make up for it quickly because by gum, and by golly, it could come as soon as next week.” – Mischke [37:08]
• Jesse Ventura’s view on death:
  “Because weaker people than I have done it.” – Jesse Ventura via Mischke [39:15]
• On the nature of podcasting:
  “Going from 12 shows a year to 104 shows a year, if anybody was set on some sort of pattern of listening to Mishke podcasts, I messed with them big time…” [49:05]
• On calling listeners being his original ‘game-changer’:
  “As long as I can include some part of the show where I talk to somebody out there...that will add that final piece that will make it feel like I need it to feel in order to do 104 of these a year.” – Mischke [50:45]

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Segment Timestamps

• 00:31–04:20 — News theme song nostalgia, music production musings
• 06:12–08:14 — Comedy “telemarketer” segment
• 08:14–16:00 — Helen Reddy, “I Am Woman” deep-dive and musical gender roles
• 21:23–31:40 — Listener Christy: dating apps, bad date stories, romance in the modern era
• 35:36–53:42 — Listener Ryan Young: aging, music, mortality, industry insights, Trampled by Turtles
• Throughout — Varied comedic ad-read parodies & satirical local color

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Summary

"Just a Good Ol’ Show" is vintage Mischke: witty, poignant, irreverent, and deeply human. Anchored by musings on the past and candid listener stories, the episode explores universal themes—nostalgia, finding connection amidst technological and cultural change, the power and randomness of music, and the brevity of life. Through offbeat phone calls, comedic detours, and thoughtful interviews, it delivers both laughter and genuine insight on what it means to be alive in modern Gumption County.

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Transcript

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[Christy]

Everybody talked about it since I first moved to Oregon. The big one. The earthquake that trashed the whole West Coast. Total destruction.

[Mishke]

Officially calling it the largest natural disaster in American history.

[Christy]

I just didn't know what would help me next. So I took it all. Even the gun.

[Mishke]

It was time Cello see why American Afterlife is the number one fiction and drama podcast in America, presented by Pair of thieves. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen to your favorite shows available now. Hey, Garage Logic fans, Mishke here, slipping in ever so briefly to mention that I have a podcast that comes out every Wednesday and every Friday, twice a week now. The show is pretty much about everything you care about and are interested in and need in your life and want to know more about. I tailored the darn thing specifically to your liking. I tailored it to your loves, to your true passions. That took a long time. I'm spent. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely wasted. It's a beautiful day. And one of the bonus features. We're alive. I was just thinking about that. We're all alive. So we got that going for us. My name's Brent McClanahan. Dave's at the control center. Margaret's got the audio resonator going. Tim's operating the vector 3. There's old wild Connie. She's handling the compressor ratio. Let's not forget Oscar. He's working the controls at the comp. Only guy working at a professional podcast in America who's on prescription acid. Okay, the first thing I wanted to talk about is. Well, I got a couple things I need to get out of the way. They're up in my head, and I need to clear them out of there. One is this old newscast theme song I have in my head from way back, the KSTP theme song. When their Eyewitness news would start. It was one catchy number. I'll tell you, I'd like to meet the guy who wrote it. I'm going to track down sometime the fellow who wrote this one. That old Channel 5 Eyewitness News theme song. It was killer. Remember how it started out with the beeps pop and then the. The drum. I don't know if it's a snare or what, but. Remember it. Here, give a list. Eyewitness News, the Northwest's most complete, comprehensive and up to the minute coverage. With weatherman Roy Findon, sportscaster Ed Cairo, and anchorman Stan Turner. Good evening, everyone. Why, that's great. That's some good music right there. What I'm most curious about with that Eyewitness News theme song. I'm most curious about the beeps and the smack of that drum because that's what makes it right there. Listen to that. You know, Springsteen always used to talk about the hit of that snare at the start of Like a Rolling Stone. Bob Dylan's biggest hit. There's that smack of that drum at the start of Like a Rolling Stone. And Springsteen always used to talk about how that. That smack of that drum just hit him right in his core. Well, this Eyewitness News drum does the same to me, especially coming off the. Did it. I mean, who came up with the brilliant. I don't even know what's going on there. Is it supposed to be kind of like a police radio or a warning? Sos what is that? Is that Morse code? It works, though, especially the. And then the drum. Don't you love that, man? I could just isolate that and listen to that for a 20 minute stretch. Come on. Another. Yes, more. Wow. God, doesn't that do stuff to you, man? I wanted to come out of that theme song with an anchorman at a desk saying, a meteor has hit Earth and everyone's going to die tonight. Bye. Bye. Give us that sounder again, Crag. We're all gonna dinner. Whoa. I'm getting a phone call. How often does that happen on the show? Hang on a second. That's a little odd. Normally I turn these things off. See what we got going on here. Ah.

[Christy]

Hello, this is Adapt Health calling about your medical supplies. Press 1 now to be connected to a representative or hang up to disconnect.

[Adapt Health Representative]

This is Adept Help calling for Thomas.

[Mishke]

I like to refer to myself as Big Tom.

[Adapt Health Representative]

All right, I'm on a recorded line. And the reason I'm calling today is because it's time to place an order for your sleep supplies.

[Mishke]

Wait a minute. You're on a recorded line? Yes, I'm on a recorded line.

[Adapt Health Representative]

All right. Can I get you to verify your date of birth so I can pull up your account.

[Mishke]

Sure. I was born September 19, 1962. It was a Wednesday. They say Wednesday's child is full of woe.

[Adapt Health Representative]

All right. And as I stated, all calls have been recorded.

[Mishke]

I'm recording this as well. Just a reminder.

[Adapt Health Representative]

All right. And the email address that I have on file, do I have permission to use it for updates on the order?

[Mishke]

You certainly do. You can send me roomie poems. I'm a big fan of roomie.

[Adapt Health Representative]

All right. Now, have your wife with your emergency contact.

[Mishke]

Yes, my wife is not only my emergency contact. She's my lover.

[Adapt Health Representative]

Is your insurance still with HomeLink? HP Commercial?

[Mishke]

It used to be, but my insurance has changed now. I met a fella named. Well, I just call him Steve. He originally had a stand in the country where he was selling corn, but he also got into insurance.

[Adapt Health Representative]

You have your insurance information handy so that we can update it?

[Mishke]

Absolutely.

[Adapt Health Representative]

Right. Who's your insurance with?

[Mishke]

Steve,

[Adapt Health Representative]

Would you like to proceed with the order for your sleep supply, sir?

[Mishke]

I'm wanting to go more in the direction of sleeping pills and really, really strong ones.

[Adapt Health Representative]

All right. So I'm not sure what's going.

[Christy]

On.

[Adapt Health Representative]

Hello.

[Mishke]

Hi, there. Doug Crenshaw Motorsports International. What can I do for you today?

[Adapt Health Representative]

This is ADAPT Health calling for Thomas. Please give us a call in regards to your sleep supplies.

[Mishke]

I'll pass that along to Tom. I appreciate your time today.

[Adapt Health Representative]

Have a nice day, sir.

[Mishke]

You, too. Bye. Bye. Now, where was I? Okay. Ah, that woman's voice reminds me of the second thing I had stuck in my head today. These are two things I just wanted to clear out. That Eyewitness News theme song and Helen Reddy's I Am Woman. Someone was playing that at a store I walked into two days ago. And that song is stuck. 1972's I Am Woman. Helen Reddy, I am Woman Hear me roar in numbers too big to ignore I haven't known how to get that out of my head. So I thought it might be best just to look into it a little bit, learn about it. So I was reading about it. Helen Reddy had a good point. I didn't realize that when she wrote that song. There was really no song out there celebrating the strength of women. In fact, the songs about women were just horrendous. I just didn't realize that I was a kid back then. I wasn't looking into what people were saying about women. I was looking into what people were saying about GI Joe. But what they were saying about women was. Well, it was embarrassing. Helen Reddy looked around to see what was out there. In the way of songs about women, all she found was that 1966 song by Sandy Posey. I can't play the song because of copyright restrictions, but the lyrics to this 1966 song went as. It doesn't matter if you're rich or poor or if you're smart or dumb. A woman's place in this old world is under some man's thumb. And if you're born a woman, then you're born to be hurt. You're born to be stepped on, lied to, cheated on and treated just like dirt. Well, I was born a woman, I didn't have no say. And when my man finally comes home, he makes me glad it went that way. Because to be his woman, no price is too great to pay. Yeah, I was born a woman. I'm glad it happened that way. What the hell kind of a song was that? That's one of the more disturbing songs I've ever come across. No wonder Helen Reddy wanted to write that song. Wow. Who the hell is Sandy Posey? 1966. If you're born a woman, you're born to be hurt. You're born to be stepped on, treated like dirt. Well, I was born a woman, I didn't have no say. And when my man comes home, he makes me glad it went that way. Because to be his woman, no price is too great to pay. Step on me, baby. Treat me like dirt. Oh, more, more. I love it. This is the song of a masochist. So Helen Reddy comes along and says, hey, I'm woman, hear me roar. In numbers too big to ignore. And I know too much to go back and pretend you hear that. Because I've heard it all before. I've been down there on the floor, and no one's going to keep me there again. You got that? Yeah, I'm wise, but it's wisdom born of pain. Yeah, I paid the price, but look how much I gain if I have to. I can do anything. I'm strong, I'm invincible. I'm woman. Take that, Sandy Posey. And I hear Sandy Posey stock Talon ready for the rest of Helen Reddy's life. Stocked her at every concert, at every interview. There she was, Sandy Posey. There's a pretty powerful shift from 1966 to 1972, huh? Pretty big cultural changes between 1966 and 1972. I am woman, hear me roar. It's still in my head, in numbers too big to ignore. I also thought if I wrote a song about a guy, I could get I'm a Woman out of My head. So I tried writing a song about a guy, a song that could have come out in 1972 as a counter to Helen Reddy's I Am Woman. I'm a guy saying hi. And I just was passing by and I heard that Helen Reddy sing a song I figured I should have my say so I wanted to say, hey, I got nothing more than that to pass along. Oh, yes, I'm a guy. Can I just leave it at that? I live in a mobile home and I wear a baseball cap if I have to I can do anything But I'd rather not. No, there is a ball game on and I'm drinking. I'm trying to get that song of Helen Reddy's out of my head. Do you know, in 1972, when I am Woman came out, the feeling was, well, women are on their way now. I mean, they are on their way. And eight years later, to confirm it, Ajuli perfume, Angelique perfume, came out with this song for their perfume. Letting the world know women are covering all the bases. Now I can put the wash on the mic feed the kids, get dressed,

[Christy]

pass out the kisses and get to

[Mishke]

work by 5 and 9. Cause I'm a woman. Give her Anjoli. The 8 hour perfume for the 24 hour woman.

[Christy]

I can bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan and never,

[Mishke]

never, never let you forget you're a man. Cause I'm a woman. Ajoli. The eight hour perfume for your 24 hour woman. That's right. It was an eight hour perfume for a 24 hour woman. Eight of the remaining 16 hours, she was asleep. That left eight hours with no perfume at all. Filling that void was Ivory soap.

[Christy]

Soaps can leave deodorants and heavy perfumes on your face. Not Ivory. Ivory gives me a natural kind of clean.

[Mishke]

I'm a woman.

[Christy]

Ivory Girl. Ivory Girl. Ivory Girl.

[Mishke]

And so it came to pass that there was a war, a great war between the Ajoli woman and the Ivory girl. The Ivory girl was not interested in bringing home the bacon. She wanted to play softball with her friends in the park. The Ivory girl never said, I never ever let him forget he's a man. A man to an Ivory girl was, well, her father, the Ajoli woman, quite different. Dangerous, frankly. She could do everything. I imagine the Ajoli woman could play softball had she wanted to. An entire team fielded by Angoli women. What kind of a game would that be? And would the Ivory girls be willing to take them on? What are they wearing? Anyway? I'm thinking Helen Reddy's song is now officially out of my head I am Woman is out of my brain. Whoo. Now what am I gonna do with that? I'm a guy saying hi and I just was passing by and I heard that Helen Reddy sing her so I figured I should have my say and I wanted to say hey, I got nothing more than that to pass along. Oh yeah, I'm a guy, can I just leave it at that? I live in a mobile home and I wear my baseball cap. If I have to I can do anything. But I'd rather not, no. Cause there's a ball game on and I'm drinking. Since 1963, they have held the road. A dealership tradition, a legacy bestowed. You want a Ford that thunders down the lane? A Buick smooth as sunlight after rain. A GMC that muscles through the cold. A Chrysler that has a story to be told. A Dodge with a heart, A Jeep for open sky? Fury Motors has the keys. So just stop on by and if you want your car used, well, you don't think twice. Every make, every model, and always a great price. But here's the thing that sets Fury apart. It isn't just the cars, my friends. It's the heart. Highest customer satisfaction, and I mean bar none. And customers keep coming back, grandpa, father and son. Cuz when Fury signs the deal and they shake your hand, well, they do it right. And let me tell you something, man, 60 years of trust that don't lie. I'll be going to Fury until the day I die. Premier hosts on VRBO deliver quality vacation rental stays with fast responses and clear instructions. So you don't have to worry about surprises.

[Christy]

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[Mishke]

See, that's the premier host move right there.

[Christy]

I wish I had a premier group chat. I asked them where we should have dinner last night and they left me on red. I know you saw it. It says it.

[Mishke]

Classic group chat move. Don't walk into a surprise. Book a top rated verbo. Stay with a premier host if you know you verbo. I would like to thank a couple of listeners right now. Jason Dolman is one of them. He called MSP for that $49 furnace tune up and ended up winning a real fancy Weber grill from Fraterni's Hardware. But that's not what I'm thanking him for. I'm thanking them for mentioning this program when he dealt with MSP when he got that furnace tune up, that made a big difference. Minneapolis St. Paul Plumbing Heating and air helps keep this show alive. So when you mention the show, it keeps them hanging around. There's another guy I want to thank, Aaron Wheeler. He sent an email to msp, sent it to my old childhood buddy Steve France. That also made a big difference, and I heard from the people at MSP about it. You people who take the time to contact my sponsors, you make a big difference. For your plumbing, for your heating, for your air conditioning. Remember Minneapolis St. Paul plumbing, heating and air. Well, I've been spinning the big wheel trying to find a listener to talk to. And I'm delighted to say some women have been added to the list of late, mostly thanks to the men in their lives volunteering their names. But those women have not been answering the phone. I've been getting voicemail. Lovely voices. I'm sure they're lovely women. They're just not answering.

[Christy]

Hi, this is Peggy. Leave me a voicemail and I'll give you a call back as soon as I can. Hi, this is Gail. I can't take your call right now. Please leave your message for Melissa.

[Mishke]

I'm gonna keep trying. Let's go with Christy. Let's take a shot with Christie. Sam,

[Christy]

your call has been forwarded to voicemail. The person you're trying to reach is not available. At the tone, please record your message. When you have finished recording, you may hang up.

[Mishke]

Hi, Christy. This is Mishke calling from the old podcast. Hello, you are there. Son of a gun. Boy, I've had about six recorded outgoing messages in a row. Wow. Is it nice to actually hear somebody?

[Christy]

Yeah.

[Mishke]

Tell me about yourself. What do you do with your life?

[Christy]

I work in an office for a medical device company, kind of a startup.

[Mishke]

And you spend 40 hours a week on that?

[Christy]

That is correct.

[Mishke]

Then what do you do when you don't have to go to work? When no one's telling you what you have to do. What's an ideal day?

[Christy]

Spending time with the boyfriend. We like to go out for motorcycle rides, stop at a couple of bars, and have some adult beverages.

[Mishke]

Are you on the back of his motorcycle or do you have your own?

[Christy]

Yes, I am on the back of his motorcycle. I do not have my own.

[Mishke]

How long you known him?

[Christy]

Our first date was Memorial Day weekend last year.

[Mishke]

So it hasn't even been a year.

[Christy]

I know. Coming up on a year, where'd you meet? On a dating app.

[Mishke]

On a dating app? This is one of the successful ones.

[Christy]

We were on Bumble. So that one. You swipe right if you're interested, you swipe left if you're not. Interested. You both have to swipe that you're interested in each other, and then you get a notification that says, hey, you match. And on Bumble, the female has to send the first message.

[Mishke]

You contact him and say, what?

[Christy]

I've been on and off dating apps for years, and I used to put a lot of thought into my initial messages, and then you wouldn't even get a response, or it just wouldn't go nowhere. So I kind of was not putting a lot of effort into it. And I'm pretty sure my first message was just hi, how are you? Or hello or something like that. So then once the conversation starts actually going back and forth and you go, oh, this is a real person.

[Mishke]

So this fascinates me. You were on dating apps for years prior to Memorial Day weekend of last year?

[Christy]

Yes, intermittently.

[Mishke]

And is it kind of okay doing that?

[Christy]

It is, it is. But again, you never know because there are what they call catfishing. Have you heard of catfishing?

[Mishke]

No.

[Christy]

That's where people make fake profiles. They'll use somebody else's picture. They'll just make up information on, like, here's my life on their profile. And that's not true. It's not them at all.

[Mishke]

What is the game there? I don't get the end game. If they lie about everything, how does that work in their favor?

[Christy]

Some of these people even go through with meeting. It's like, well, that's not you. That's not the person on there.

[Mishke]

I'm trying to figure out the advantage to the guy who does that. So you show up and you say, yeah, you're not that guy. And he goes, I know, I made all that stuff up. And I used a different picture. Wait, why are you going home? Well, because you lied, I don't get. Seems like a really poorly thought out plan. And forgive me here, I'm sure there's more to it that I'm missing, but it doesn't sound like it's well thought out.

[Christy]

Correct.

[Mishke]

How many dates do you figure you went on before Memorial Day of last year that were dates through an online service dating app.

[Christy]

And 15.

[Mishke]

Let's throw out 12. Were any of those dates horrible?

[Christy]

Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, I had one. Went to, like, an Applebee's for lunch.

[Mishke]

All right, that should have been the deal breaker right there. Applebee's. I literally have never met anybody who has said, let's go to Applebee's. Never in my life have I been around somebody. Hey, you hungry? Yeah. Let's go to Applebee's. That same person could just as easily say, let's walk in front of this car coming down the freeway. I'd opt for that first. Sorry. I'm sure Applebee's is a lovely place.

[Christy]

It was within the budget.

[Mishke]

Oh, it's a budget deal. I'm sorry, I gotta back off. I'm sure Applebee's is where you go when you have just a little bit of money and you don't care, really, if you live another day. So tell me what happened at the Applebee's.

[Christy]

We went to lunch at Applebee's, and this is when we'd been messaging back and forth on the website or the app or whatever it was. And I met him in person, and I could kind of tell within, like, the first five minutes, yeah, I don't want to go out with this guy again. I thought he was giving me gay vibes. I'm like, this guy is not interested in women. He wants to be on a date with a man. He seemed like he was gay.

[Mishke]

That also doesn't sound like a well thought out plan. A gay guy. What's his plan? You show up and he says, wait, you're a woman? And you say, yeah, I showed you a picture of a woman. I said I was a woman. Yeah, but I just thought you couldn't possibly be serious. This isn't going to work at all. I'm gay.

[Christy]

Yeah. I don't know. But we had lunch and then we were walking out to the parking lot. All of a sudden, this truck comes flying in the parking lot, screeches the brakes, and some woman, girl, lady gets out and starts screaming, you son of a b. Obviously she said the word. You said you loved me. And I'm like, what is going on? Looking around. And he runs over to this chick. They have some heated discussion, and he, like, essentially shoves her back in the vehicle. And then the vehicle peels out. And I'm just still standing there, mouth agape, looking around, going, what in the hell just happened? Thinking he's going to explain it. And he just, like, casually walks back over me and he's like, so you want to go do something else? I'm good. I'm going to get in my car and I'm going to go home. And you're going to get in your car and you're going to go home and you're going to lose my number and never call me again. Gets in his car, slams the door, Peeled out of the parking lot. And I just kind of sat in my car for a few minutes processing, like, what Just happened. Then some little old lady came over to my car, knocked on the window. Sweetheart, are you okay? I just saw all that. What was that? I don't know what that was, but I'm good. I'm good. Yes, thank you. I'm just gonna sit here for a few minutes.

[Mishke]

At that point, did you say to yourself, I'm gonna go back and look at that profile again and see if there were some clues I might have missed?

[Christy]

I was in grad school. This was out in North Dakota, so that was probably my first mistake.

[Mishke]

Makes perfect sense. I didn't realize you were in North Dakota at the time. There was not another date that was in that category. Right. Say of the 12, that's the only one that really stood out as being truly bizarre and filled with cognitive dissonance.

[Christy]

There was one that I didn't know at the time. I think we went on two dates, and it was fine. And then later, and this is again, North Dakota phone call from North Dakota Department of Criminal Something.

[Mishke]

Oh, boy.

[Christy]

Asking me if I know this name. And he was in jail. I think he's in jail for life now. He was luring minors through Snapchat and transporting them across state lines.

[Mishke]

Well, this is just all of a sudden terrifying to me. So imagine the fun. Imagine the good feeling you must have had last Memorial Day weekend. I'm finding myself now wanting to hear about this new fella. When you were first messaging with him, did you ever say to him anything along the lines of, have you ever spent much time in North Dakota?

[Christy]

I don't think so.

[Mishke]

I would have cleared that up right away. Just found out if there were any tethers at all connecting him to that state. So on this first date, did you tell yourself within a matter of minutes or hours, okay, I'm going to be seeing more of this guy? This one's going to work.

[Christy]

Yeah. Yeah. I could tell right away.

[Mishke]

Right away. That must be a good feeling.

[Christy]

Yeah.

[Mishke]

And would he say the exact same thing?

[Christy]

I think so.

[Mishke]

Isn't it wonderful when it works out that way? In a way, it's kind of shocking that it does. I mean, two people are born on this planet having nothing to do with one another. One day, there they are together, testing something out, and magically, for both of them, it works. It's almost more a miracle that it ever works than it doesn't to me.

[Christy]

Yeah, I would agree with that.

[Mishke]

Well, I don't know what else I want to ask you. I definitely wanted to dissect that whole thing, because anytime I stumble Upon a world I know nothing about. I want to learn as much as I can about it. And I've not had the opportunity to really pepper someone with questions on this. Do you know other women friends who have had success with it?

[Christy]

No, not really. It's usually just the, oh, didn't work out. Didn't work out.

[Mishke]

What do you think is the fix for that? For instance, when you're talking to a friend and it's friend number 10, who told you? Oh, I just don't know about this. It never works out. I go on these dates. It's not what I'm looking for. What am I doing with these dating apps? If you were able to wave a magic wand, what would you fix? Repair, alter, change.

[Christy]

Oh, if I had that answer, I would not be working in my current job because I would be a bajillionaire. I don't know.

[Mishke]

In the old days, the idea was, I mean, this is. This is the world I grew up in. You just found yourself in worlds where men and women mingled. At work, on a volleyball team, a softball team, Whether it was some church group, whether it was at a company picnic, whether it was in a bar. There would just be a world with men and women around roughly the same age and there would be mingling. And out of that, magic happened. That worked for years. For years and years and years. Was that not something you were interested in? Playing with too much? Did you ever have an old fashioned date that way?

[Christy]

Not really. There's not a lot of settings where that can happen. I gotta get back to work.

[Mishke]

Lord, you're working.

[Christy]

I hate to cut. You're supposed to be.

[Mishke]

All right, well, I appreciate how much time you spent with me, I really do. And I hope to run into you guys somewhere down the road, perhaps on that motorcycle.

[Christy]

All right, well, it was a pleasure talking with you.

[Mishke]

Thank you so much, Christy. I'll see you.

[Christy]

Thanks. Bye.

[Mishke]

Some people have to work. You call and waste their time. They have a job to do. You keep them on the line. They hate to be rude, but they wish you'd go away. They tried to ditch you. Boy, you try to make them stay.

[Christy]

Not available.

[Mishke]

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[Ryan Young]

Steve reached Ryan Young's voicemail. Please leave a message.

[Mishke]

Well, I don't know what a man has to do to connect with somebody using the telephone. I can't seem to get any satisfaction. I mean, when I'm driving in my car, a man talks on the radio. He's telling me more and more about some useless information supposed to fire my imagination. But no, I can not get any satisfaction. When I'm watching my TV and a man comes on and tells me how white my shirts can be. But he can't be a man. He doesn't smoke the same cigs as I do. Where the hell are you, damn it?

[Ryan Young]

I'm right here, Mishke.

[Mishke]

Oh, you are there. I thought I got your voicemail.

[Ryan Young]

You did, but nowadays you can answer while they're leaving a message. And that's what I did.

[Mishke]

Wow, that changes everything. I expect to get a hold of a lot more listeners now. That technology is a game changer.

[Ryan Young]

I didn't realize you were calling. I just happened to look at my phone and it says mishke's leaving me a message.

[Mishke]

So that's really odd because with my phone, what it does is it rings.

[Ryan Young]

I've got one of these old phones that does not ring.

[Mishke]

Boy, that must be the old 1910 candlestick phone because they've been ringing since the 30s.

[Ryan Young]

I'm out of the loop, really. Modern technology.

[Mishke]

Well, I'm glad Sarah connected us. What are you up to?

[Ryan Young]

Just sent a package in the mail Now. I'm going to eat some food and then mix some records.

[Mishke]

How's the studio? You making any money on that thing?

[Ryan Young]

Very little, but I'm doing okay. I've got three jobs, so there's a

[Mishke]

man who likes to work. You like rolling up your sleeves but not getting your fingernails dirty?

[Ryan Young]

I bet that's true.

[Mishke]

Those were the guys who were unemployed when I was young. I know those were the guys because every ad talked about that. Do you like rolling up your sleeves but don't like getting your fingers, your nails dirty? Contact us at Control Data.

[Ryan Young]

I'm an avid indoorsman, that's for sure.

[Mishke]

So what else is going on in your life? How's your health?

[Ryan Young]

My health is good.

[Mishke]

Good.

[Ryan Young]

How about yourself?

[Mishke]

I am moving with each day closer to my grave, perilously close to the precipice beyond which is the great abyss. I have to look back now and start asking myself, was it a good run? All in all, it's time for me to start analyzing that and if make up for it quickly because by gum, and by golly, it could come as soon as next week.

[Ryan Young]

That's true of any of us.

[Mishke]

It is. But again, I don't know if you've had the experience of crossing into that age range where you start getting the phone calls because your buddy here croaked or your buddy there croaked, or this obit was found by this pal and he's passing it along, and so and so just found out he has stage four something or other. A lot of that starts happening post 50. Then post 60, it kicks into gear with a bit more intensity, and by 70, you're sick of the deaths. You just don't even care anymore. And that's why it's so easy to die when you're old, because you've heard of so many. You're just ready to join them. You figure the party isn't even here anymore. It's somewhere else. That's the beauty of it. I've always wanted, and I'm quite serious about this I've always wanted to have in my room in hospice, the walls covered with the obit pages of all the different newspapers I could get my hands on around the country. So that as I looked up from my pillow, all around me were the faces from the obits looking at me. So with every obit, the family picks out a nice shot of a mother, father, son, daughter, uncle, aunt, whatever. And each of those pictures would be smiling at me from the walls, hundreds of them. So that when I opened my eyes each day, it would be all the people who had gone before me, smiling, kind of saying, hey, see you soon, man. It'd be just this welcoming party. I wonder if anybody's ever done that, Just plastered the walls with obit pictures. What do you think?

[Ryan Young]

I think that's a fantastic idea. Because sometimes people might be scared to die. But if you look and see like, well, all these people did it and they're fine, I can do it.

[Mishke]

You know what Jesse Ventura said one time when they asked him if he was afraid to die? He said, no. And they said, why? And he said, as only Jesse could, because weaker people than I have done it.

[Ryan Young]

I think I heard it from your show maybe on KSTP days some. You were interviewing somebody and they said, dying is like, you feel like you're hanging from a window outside and you think you're going to plummet. Stories and stories and it's scary, but it's actually just like a 2 inch drop.

[Mishke]

You did hear that on my show. I'm not the originator of it, but that is a description from people who have had the experience and have come back. It's like hanging off this precipice, some grand cliff, and you think you're going to disappear hundreds and hundreds of feet down into some rocks, jagged rocks. And when you do finally let go and release, 4 inches below you is a. Is a thing called the ground. And you're standing on it going, oh, I feel embarrassed. That reminds me of a gag my uncle used to do. He used to have us kids gather round and he'd say, you want to go on an airplane ride? And he'd put a blindfold on us and he'd take a piece of plywood that was maybe 3ft by 3ft and we'd stand on it. And he goes, we're gonna go for a ride up in the air. We'd have the blindfold on and he'd have maybe two other guys lifting it with him. And the sense was that you were being taken way, way high, way up in the air. And there was a feeling of, my God, this is crazy that an adult is allowing this. And I could fall at any time. There's nothing holding Me here. And then eventually he just says, I can't hold this anymore. You're gonna have to jump. And I would leap, and it would be one inch. I was one inch off the ground. Are you an uncle to anybody?

[Ryan Young]

I am. I have four nibblings.

[Mishke]

How do you think they view you when they're old and they talk about their uncles? How will they peg you? What will they say? Old Uncle Ryan was like, they'll probably

[Ryan Young]

think I'm pretty cool. I play in a band, you know. They think that's cool.

[Mishke]

What?

[Ryan Young]

I'm a movie star now. I actually just. I was an extra in a movie. I just got back from that.

[Mishke]

How'd you get into that?

[Ryan Young]

The director is a guy named Jeff Nichols, who's moderately famous. He's done some pretty big movies. He's a fan of Trampled by Turtles. So there's a scene in the opening shot of the movie where there's a outdoor wedding.

[Mishke]

Is this the Godfather?

[Ryan Young]

Unfortunately, no.

[Mishke]

Okay.

[Ryan Young]

It probably won't be that successful, but anyway. So, yeah, the travel by turtles is the band playing at the wedding. And I was playing the fiddle, and we did an 80s song. It's the one that goes, I don't want to lose your love tonight.

[Mishke]

Oh, my lord. Wait a minute. You guys were doing that one?

[Ryan Young]

Yeah, we had to play that song like a hundred times. Like take after take after take after take.

[Mishke]

That almost sounds cruel. Out of all the songs he could have had you do in all the world, all the ones you could have delivered to the point at which people would have been walking out of that theater saying, boy, I gotta go buy that. And he has you do that one. I mean, what are the odds of anyone wanting to hear that again?

[Ryan Young]

Very low. Somehow the lyrics apply cleverly to the story, I think.

[Mishke]

Who wrote that?

[Ryan Young]

The band is called the Outfield, A one hit wonder kind of band.

[Mishke]

The Outfield. Did you at least play it in a kind of trampled by turtle's way, or did you do it like the 80s bands? Okay.

[Ryan Young]

No. The story in the movie is that the main character is a bluegrass musician and his soon to be wife does not like bluegrass, but she loves 80s music, so he gets his band to learn that song for her.

[Mishke]

Josie's on a vacation far away Come around and talk it over so many things that I want to say. You know, I like my girls a little bit older. I just want to use your love tonight.

[Ryan Young]

I read those lyrics too, and it kind of sounds like if Josie's his wife and she's on A vacation. I don't think he's talking to Josie. I think he's looking to get some action from somebody while his wife is on a vacation far away.

[Mishke]

I think it's her mother. That's the sense I get, is it's her mother. I got to see what happened to this band where they ended up. Oh, my God. The lead singer died of cancer.

[Ryan Young]

For him, it just felt like falling 2 inches.

[Mishke]

I'll add him to the wall. Are you in a lull right now, or am I catching you in the middle of touring?

[Ryan Young]

I'm not touring right now. We're gonna start recording a new record tomorrow, however.

[Mishke]

Where do you guys record that? Pachyderm.

[Ryan Young]

Yep, Pachyderm.

[Mishke]

Good old pachyderm. Man, such fond memories of that place. I hope somebody at some point writes a little book about stories of pachyderm. There's a lot of great stories. You'd have to chase some down. It's not like everybody working there would have all the stories. Some of the stories would be just surrounding the recording sessions down there. But so many great stories. But I don't know that anybody ever does that. Where you write a little book about a recording studio.

[Ryan Young]

I'm not aware of any.

[Mishke]

I'd add my chapter on Old Ramblin Jack. I'll put that up against some of the best stories. You guys end up usually delivering far more songs than you'll end up using.

[Ryan Young]

Typically a couple extra that don't make the cut. We're not one of those bands where they record 50 songs and only 10 of them are on the record. We'll just record a couple more than we think we might need and just take the last couple out. One of our most popular songs is a song called Wait so Long. And we recorded that on the record, before the record it came out and it didn't make the cut. That became our most popular song number.

[Mishke]

Of guys who have said this was the last one I expected to be a hit. David Bowie used to talk about that quite a bit. The one he thought people were gonna love. They didn't. The one he barely even wanted to put on the record was the one people loved. I'm intrigued by the strangeness of that. I would argue there are a handful of people in this world, not necessarily the musicians or singers or performers, but there are people in this world who actually have that knack and that skill. I think there are certain savants out there that are freakish in their ability to know. One of them being Clive Davis.

[Ryan Young]

Yeah, I Think you're right about that.

[Mishke]

And I'm not sure where that comes from. It is not a trained skill. There is no reason in the world, in a lot of instances, for Clive Davis to know something is going to work. He's not connected to it. It's from a different time, it's a different generation. It's not music he necessarily listens to at home. He's culturally removed from all of it, but he knows this is it. This is the one. This. This right here. And don't do that. And I don't think he's ever been able to articulate it.

[Ryan Young]

I don't know if he's able to put himself in other people's shoes and just imagine that people would like this. Whereas other people are just. They're only thinking about themselves, you know, Like, I don't particularly see what's going on in this song.

[Mishke]

Right.

[Ryan Young]

Perhaps. I don't know.

[Mishke]

There is something in that song that works. And he can see it, he can feel it, he can hear it. What do they say? There are 22 different intelligences that we have. Even the dumbest guy you knew growing up was a genius on the baseball field, had that IQ kinesthetically, through the roof. He was a genius in his ability to control and understand and use his body. And the guy who was getting all A's in science was not a genius kinesthetically. There's always a guy who's way high in a certain line and then maybe not in others, but I don't know what line that would be for Clive Davis. I'd have to study that and find out where his intelligence is. But I will say this, that'd be a great skill because what a fun job, listening to music and saying, put this out, put that out. Don't do this, don't even record that one.

[Ryan Young]

Absolutely.

[Mishke]

You still living out in the same old place? You still got the brick bomb shelter operation?

[Ryan Young]

I do, yeah.

[Mishke]

Have you been recording anybody who's impressed you?

[Ryan Young]

I've been doing kind of a variety of music lately. Typically, I deal in, like, folk music and acoustic music, but I've been doing some rock and roll bands and I've done a jazz ban, and that's been fun. But as far as, like, somebody that. Just one person that wowed me, I'm gonna have to go with this woman named Katie Belville, local musician. She's kind of in the Gillian Welch vein.

[Mishke]

Katie recorded one of my songs, did she not?

[Ryan Young]

Oh, I believe she did. That's right. I forgot about that.

[Mishke]

Yeah. Lovely human being. Yeah. Great singer. So you recorded her recently?

[Ryan Young]

Yes, it isn't out yet.

[Mishke]

Okay, well, how you been liking the show?

[Ryan Young]

I love it. I listen all the time. I'm actually not caught up. I listen to your show in order, even though it's not like a continuous narrative or whatever. But I don't want to miss any. So I'm currently three or four episodes behind.

[Mishke]

I'm learning a lot of people are more behind than that. I just had a guy message me who wanted to take me on, on something I had said three. Three months ago. He was just catching that show now, and something I had said, it bothered him and he was texting me about it, and I thought, wow, I didn't anticipate having to deal with that stuff. Kind of forgotten all about that other stuff, I suppose. But people take it in when they take it in. I do know that going from 12 shows a year to 104 shows a year, if anybody was set on some sort of pattern of listening to mishke podcasts, I messed with them big time by suddenly doing 104. It's almost absurd. And someone could say, yeah, but you used to do it every night back in the days when you were a nightly radio guy. But that was so different because what was going on then is there wasn't much else to listen to. There were no such things as podcasts. It was very limited. And, you know, it worked into people's schedules. They were either driving to work or coming home from someplace, or swing shifters or grocery shopping. It kind of worked into their schedule. Once it's podcast ville, that all goes out the window, everything changes.

[Ryan Young]

When I was listening to you on the radio, if I had to miss some time because I got out of my car, I missed it. There's no going back. But if I get out of my car, I push pause, you know, and I pick it up again exactly where I left off. And so I catch more of it, but it takes longer.

[Mishke]

Right. I will say the one thing that has been the saving grace for me was figuring out this idea of me calling the listeners instead of the listeners calling me, just figuring that out and then saying, okay, as long as I can include some part of the show where I talk to somebody out there, somebody living their life just unrelated to anything going on over here inside this building, that will add that final piece that will make it feel like I need it to feel in order to do 104 of these a year.

[Ryan Young]

Right. I really enjoy that aspect of your show. I Do.

[Mishke]

I don't know if other people do it. They say an original thought doesn't have to be one. No one else has come up with. It's just got to be that you didn't know anyone else had come up with it. So I don't know anybody who's come up with it, but for me, it's a game changer.

[Ryan Young]

I'm not aware of anybody else doing it.

[Mishke]

Some people might think of it as odd. Steve Cannon used to say to me, why the hell would I take a call? I'm working, I'm working. Why would I take a call? He'd say to me, if they want to be on the air, why don't they get their own show? And I'd say, no, no, it's not like that. It's an interesting added element. He didn't get it. Anyway, good to hear that you're in good spirits and well and healthy and working. Sounds like you're working like a dog. Good Lord, I hope it's all joyful.

[Ryan Young]

It is.

[Mishke]

Say hi to the fellas for me. And when the devil might I see that movie, God knows I gotta get to that song as fast as possible. I'll be listening to it tonight in bed. How long do we have to wait? Probably a year.

[Ryan Young]

They said it's likely gonna be a year and a half. So the summer of 27 or maybe even fall.

[Mishke]

Well, if they want that big Academy Award, it's gotta be autumn. They gotta push it. That's how people remember it come voting time. Wouldn't that be something? All of a sudden you guys are at the Academy Awards. What if that's the song that wins the Oscar?

[Ryan Young]

Yeah, maybe it's the next I Will Always Love youe. Whoa.

[Mishke]

Speaking of songs, Clive Davis discovered. Might be that he just discovered her.

[Ryan Young]

Yeah, I'm not sure about the song, but yeah, you're right about that.

[Mishke]

Actually, Kevin Costner takes credit for the acapella intro.

[Ryan Young]

Oh, is that right?

[Mishke]

Yeah, he. Apparently she wasn't gonna do it that way. And Kevin Costner, who's he? What does he know? He pushed her on that to do the acapella start, which was a brilliant move. That's exactly how it should have started. And I think he told her that from a horse in South Dakota or something. Do you remember the movie Dances With Wolves at all?

[Ryan Young]

I do.

[Mishke]

I remember Kevin Costner winning the Oscar. This is bizarre when you think about it, that I remember his acceptance speech, because the whole speech was about how no one's going to remember who won this particular year. I remember he was up getting his award, his Oscar, and he said, you know, people always say no one ever remembers who won the year before. But I'll tell you something. My wife's going to remember, my kid's going to remember, my parents are going to remember, my best friends are gonna remember. I'm gonna remember. He just starts running through these people who are gonna remember, and for some reason, I remember that.

[Ryan Young]

Yeah.

[Mishke]

All right. Enough of this nonsense. I'll let you go. You be well. Hope to see you sometime.

[Ryan Young]

All right. Likewise.

[Mishke]

All right, Ry. See you later.

[Ryan Young]

See ya.

[Mishke]

That's Ryan Young, the fine fiddle player with Trampled by Turtles. If you have never heard that band, do something about that now. I don't wanna lose your love tonight I'm hit. I am hit. I think the bullet came from the outfield. You mean the grassy knoll? Is that a ban,

[Christy]

Sam?