MNST: Joe wonders if Quinn Hughes is the best NHL defensemen of all-time

Summary

GARAGE LOGIC PODCAST SUMMARY
Episode: MNST: Joe wonders if Quinn Hughes is the best NHL defenseman of all-time
Date: May 4, 2026
Host: Gamut Podcast Network (“The Mayor” Joe Soucheray and co-hosts, including Pat Reusse and Fritz)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers around a spirited discussion of NHL standout Quinn Hughes and the provocative question: Is he already the best defenseman in hockey history? The show is signature Garage Logic—rooted in Midwestern humor, dry commentary, and a blend of nostalgia and present-day sports wisdom. The conversation dives deep into current NHL playoffs action, the evolution of hockey, and parallels to legends like Bobby Orr, with plenty of digressions into Minnesota baseball, youth sports, and general cultural observations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Wild NHL Playoff Action and Quinn Hughes’ Star Power

• The opening hockey segment recaps a wild NHL playoff doubleheader, noting the frenetic pace and abnormally high goal totals in recent games.
• Pat, Joe, and Fritz reflect on how “modern hockey never tightens up anymore,” marveling at a game with 15 goals and 14 different scorers.
  • Memorable Quote (03:16, Fritz): "Have you just sit there and wet your pants because you might miss three goals… turned into a 'hold my beer' game."

2. Comparing Great NHL Defensemen: Hughes vs. Orr

• Central to the episode is Joe’s provocative question about Quinn Hughes:
  • Is Hughes the greatest defenseman of all time? Who even compares?
• The group wrestles with cross-era comparisons, mostly to Bobby Orr, and consider how much the position and game have changed (faster, more puck possession, less “stay-at-home” defense).
  • Pat Reusse (06:38): “Is it blasphemy that I'm going to go home and purposely seek out video of Bobby Orr?”
  • The guys agree Orr remains the standard, but Hughes' puck possession and skating stand out even by modern standards.
• They emphasize the changing role of defensemen—from “stay at home” to “controlling the puck for 50% of the time on the ice”—and admit it’s tough to judge across such different eras.
  • Fritz (07:39): “The modern athlete is just a different athlete.”

3. Star Comparisons beyond Hockey

• The show looks for Minnesota sports analogies, highlighting Hughes’ “must-see” quality and national appeal:
  • Pat Reusse (10:20): “This is superstar quality ... like the Dodgers having Shohei Ohtani, the Yankees having DiMaggio, Cleveland having Jim Brown.”
  • Hughes' skill makes him a "whole-nation-watch" type of player.

4. The Business of Sport, Ownership, and Salaries

• The conversation turns to current and historic contracts, with musings about the high price to keep a talent like Hughes and the rising costs in sports.
• They mention team owners, including a humorous anecdote about Stan Kroenke (owner of the Colorado Avalanche and LA Rams) erecting barriers around a bathroom to avoid a persistent reporter.
  • Fritz (20:44): "He's a complete jackass, too... had security guards for the bathroom."

5. Minnesota Sports Tidbits and Local Journalism

• Some discussion on the confusion of news cycles, late sports results printing, and the use of historical news filler in local papers.
• Baseball injuries and management are covered, highlighting the Twins’ run of bad luck (especially pitcher Joe Ryan) and lamenting how “guys never used to get these injuries” in the old days.
  • Fritz (26:41): “The human arm can't do it... Too many breaking balls, too many different kinds of breaking balls.”

6. Youth Sports & Baseball Nostalgia

• Lots of local color as hosts reminisce about their own and family baseball careers—taunting in 1960s high school, pitching stories, youth coaching today:
  • Less tolerance for taunting today.
  • Emphasis for youth on basic skills (“pick it up and throw to first”).
• Fritz (34:00): "You know, you know what the secret of baseball is at all levels? ... if you can pick it up and throw it to first base, things are going to go pretty good."

7. Pop Culture: Savannah Bananas and the Rise of Sports Entertainment

• The group reacts to the phenomenon of the Savannah Bananas, an exhibition baseball team with Harlem Globetrotters-style antics, noting their recent crowd of 102,000 at Texas A&M.
  • Joe (36:05): "People want to post that they're at the Bananas game so I can be on my Instagram reel. That's what this is all about."
  • Pat Reusse (39:05): "I'm glad I'm 80. Four or five more years of this crap. To hell with it. See you people later."

8. The Future of Pro Sports: Tech, AI, and ‘Banana Ball’

• Playful speculation about the possible future of pro sports, with Fritz predicting AI players on NFL teams and Reusse suggesting the NFL will become more like “reality TV.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Fritz on the modern defenseman (06:25):
  • "The old boy, he's a good puck rusher—this is controlling the puck for 50% of the time you're on the ice."
• Pat Reusse on historic comparisons (08:25):
  • "As of this moment, Orr is the best defender who ever played the game in my estimation."
• Pat Reusse on Hughes' mass appeal (10:10):
  • "I gotta think there are people elsewhere in the country who tune in to watch Hughes because he's that different from other hockey players."
• Pat Reusse, on pop-sports culture (39:36):
  • "I'm not changing my prediction for the NFL. It is going to morph into reality TV quasi-sport."
• Fritz on pitching durability then vs. now (26:41):
  • “The human arm can't do it... Too many breaking balls, too many different kinds of breaking balls.”
• Fritz on the Savannah Bananas (36:05):
  • "I can't watch it. This is all about Instagram... it's what this is all about."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:32-05:00 NHL playoff recap, wild games, importance of staying tuned in
• 05:05-09:00 The Hughes vs. Orr debate, changing roles for defensemen
• 10:20-11:19 Hughes' national superstar comparison
• 20:30-22:00 Stan Kroenke bathroom anecdote
• 25:19-27:12 Changing nature of MLB pitching, injury rates, and nostalgia
• 28:22-34:47 Minnesota youth baseball, coaching, and local color
• 35:12-39:05 Savannah Bananas phenomenon & critiques of "Instagram baseball"
• 39:22-40:05 Speculation about AI in future sports, reality TV sports

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Overall Tone

The episode is quintessential Garage Logic: irreverent, opinionated, full of in-jokes and references to Minnesota culture, and always skeptical of modern trends and hype. The banter feels like eavesdropping on seasoned friends at a neighborhood tavern, dissecting hockey, bemoaning injuries in baseball, and shaking their heads at the latest internet-fueled sports crazes.

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In Summary

Listeners come away with a richer appreciation for Quinn Hughes’ place in contemporary hockey, renewed nostalgia for the legends of the past, and classic Garage Logic commentary on how the sports world—like everything else—keeps changing (and not always for the better). Charming as ever, the crew invites listeners to consider both stats and soul in debates about sports greatness.

Transcript

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[Pat Reusse]

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[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Fritz]

Yes. Yes.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Pat Reusse]

Was that a woof woof. Cool game.

[Fritz]

Oh, man, it was. It was. You know, I'm a kind of guy who's been known to change channels during a hockey game, but not that one because I'm afraid I might miss two goals if I did that.

[Joe]

Wait, I thought you always wait to the last couple minutes.

[Fritz]

That's basketball, not playoffs. Not playoffs.

[Joe]

Oh, that's just a regular season. No.

[Fritz]

Well, you keep my regular season. Hockey is. I watch it for a while and then I. If there's a power play when I click back, then I watch it.

[Joe]

Or.

[Fritz]

And if there's five minutes to go and it's within two goals, then I watch.

[Joe]

Got it.

[Fritz]

But I like watching power plays because something might happen. But that. So yesterday we start, we got a double header on, you know, another. Another one of those lovely double hitters which causes your games to tip off.

[Pat Reusse]

And it involved my habs, so I watched it.

[Fritz]

Yes, and I think your habs should be embarrassed to have won that game two to one with nine shots. Rocket is doing three 60s in his grave.

[Pat Reusse]

You know what else he's doing before all these fruitcakes holding their white hankies.

[Fritz]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat Reusse]

When he played, he said, I didn't need that.

[Fritz]

Reavers. Yes, sir. The Montreal Canadiens, the La Ha Tub Tons, advance to the second round. Even though they went 26 minutes and 57 seconds without a shot, wasn't nine shots total. Nine shots total. What was it? What was going on? I don't get it.

[Pat Reusse]

In the meantime, fly out to Denver and tune that one in. They had nine shots in the first 30 seconds.

[Fritz]

Don't go up to the boys room. Have you just sit there and wet your pants because you might miss three

[Pat Reusse]

goals that turned into a hold my beer game.

[Fritz]

Oh, it was, right?

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat Reusse]

Watch this. Hold my beer. I'll go down and score.

[Fritz]

I'm down 3 0, and I'm. And we just hurt Cale Makar. And he came back when Hughes and the boys said, ah, the hell with it, let's go.

[Pat Reusse]

Yeah.

[Fritz]

And they. It was. The idea that at some point the Wild would lead that game was just preposterous.

[Pat Reusse]

They were down three, nothing.

[Fritz]

Boom. And all of a sudden, they had five, four. But it was a game that never tightened up.

[Pat Reusse]

No.

[Fritz]

You thought, okay, somebody's gonna. It's gonna be the third period, and we're gonna, you know, start playing defense here and going up.

[Pat Reusse]

Nobody. Nobody became cloying. No one. They just, oh, wait a minute. What? It's my turn. 14 different people scores.

[Fritz]

It was amazing.

[Pat Reusse]

It was 15 goals scored. McCarr got two, 14 individuals scored. First time in history.

[Fritz]

How about the goal by the older of the brothers, the fileto?

[Pat Reusse]

Wasn't that nice. No.

[Fritz]

The younger brother scored, but the other guy was on the. Those guys, when you get them together on the same line, which they haven't done that often, they can be a little mean, too. They can hit you with a stick.

[Joe]

Speaking of that, somebody on Twitter wanted me to ask you, since you had the nickname for the Tkachuk brothers, the cement heads, do you have a nickname for the Foligno brothers at all?

[Pat Reusse]

They're not cement heads.

[Fritz]

No. I like one thing. If they bring Marcus in to talk after a game, he's worth sitting and listening. He's great. He's just a great guy. And the other guys must be wonderful, too.

[Pat Reusse]

You know who's horrible? Quinn and Boldy. Oh, they're just unbelievably bad. But I think I saw. No, I saw a hint of something. I saw a hint of something after the winner in Dallas. They got Boldy and Hughes.

[Fritz]

Yeah.

[Pat Reusse]

And among the questions Hughes was asked was, now you've you've scored two previous playoff goals obviously with Vancouver. And he. And he was asked you remember those. And, and you could see Boldy kind of look at him like this. And Hugh said, I don't remember that. And you could see Boldy smiling.

[Fritz]

Yeah. Right. Yeah.

[Pat Reusse]

I think a lot of what they're doing is having a little fun.

[Fritz]

Well plus they're not going anywhere. He's not going anywhere. To extend the conversation.

[Joe]

But you did get the one great post game moment with Hughes. Remember after they won the gold and he had the corona. He's like, I. I'm gonna need another one of these.

[Pat Reusse]

Tell me this, Pat. Two things. It's what who's he better than? Because we're getting to the point where we have to say everybody who when

[Fritz]

Hughes having the other guy.

[Pat Reusse]

No, I mean in history. Oh, I have to. I'm gonna go home. You know what I'm gonna do tonight?

[Fritz]

You know, the defense has played so different.

[Pat Reusse]

Well, the stay at home defenseman days are done. That's done.

[Fritz]

But I mean the, the old boy, he's a good puck rusher. Is this an ad? This is controlling the buck for 50% of the time you're on the ice. You got the puck.

[Pat Reusse]

Let me ask you something. Is it, is it blasphemy that I'm going to go home and I'm going to purposely seek out video of Bobby Orr?

[Fritz]

Yeah. No, no. I think you should. I wonder how much or played like

[Pat Reusse]

this did I did or have that skating ability. I'm thinking he did.

[Fritz]

Well, he probably. But it's not, you know, everything is 20% faster in sports. So when Bobby or played so you know that's, I mean we just had a guy, Joe run the marathon. Yeah. In under two hours in London. In under two hours.

[Pat Reusse]

Yeah.

[Fritz]

They were saying, my God, he broke the two 20 minute. Two hour, 20 minute barrier 20 years ago.

[Pat Reusse]

A lot of players can do the spin around that Hughes does, but they can't do it as fast as he does.

[Joe]

And by the way, the guy that finished in second place would have also broke the record in that same marathon anyway.

[Fritz]

The modern athlete is just a different athlete.

[Pat Reusse]

Well, who's he better than? Is he is. Are we at is 26. He's been around long enough to say who's he better than?

[Fritz]

Is it.

[Pat Reusse]

There's no comparison to Gretzky. That's two different animals.

[Fritz]

Yeah. The different position.

[Pat Reusse]

Well, I want to compare him to or because or was a kind of a hero of mine.

[Fritz]

I got look at or that's 50 years ago, though. My God. When. When was. Or done late early 70s.

[Pat Reusse]

Oh, by 78 or 79 he was trying to play with the Blackhawks and couldn't.

[Fritz]

He had the bad.

[Pat Reusse]

His knees were shot. It was that Tony Oliva case.

[Fritz]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean he was. I think you got to compare the guys for the era that they were playing in and. Or is the more dominant than this guy?

[Pat Reusse]

Yeah. But if I'm looking for somebody who. Quinn is better there. As of this moment, Orr is the best defender who ever played the game in my estimation.

[Fritz]

Because he was such an offender.

[Pat Reusse]

Well, he was such a novel introduction to the game.

[Joe]

The 7576 season was Orr's final.

[Pat Reusse]

Really? With the Blackhawks?

[Joe]

With the Bruins?

[Pat Reusse]

No, he went to the Blackhawks.

[Fritz]

Did he come back at the end? I can't remember.

[Joe]

This is on his Wikipedia page. His final season with the Bruins and it was tumultuous. His contract was ending after the season.

[Fritz]

No, he went. Yeah, went to the blackouts. Chicago. Oh, okay.

[Pat Reusse]

Yeah, well, I. That. I find that hard to. Well, see, that's wiki for you. You can't really trust.

[Joe]

Maybe I go to the NHL sites.

[Fritz]

All right. Yeah, well, Wiki is a little shaky. Wiki isn't as shaky as what you get now when you Google, you get the AI overview that you are correct.

[Joe]

78. 79 was his last with Chicago.

[Fritz]

Yeah.

[Pat Reusse]

That means war was only with Boston.

[Fritz]

Here's my prize. I'm wondering what's. What do you think he'll take to stay?

[Pat Reusse]

I don't know.

[Fritz]

You're on.

[Pat Reusse]

I don't know what mountains you move.

[Fritz]

You're on. You're on the hook for 17 for Caprisov as the highest paid player in the league.

[Pat Reusse]

And is he worth more than Caprice off? I'm afraid so. I'm afraid so.

[Fritz]

But. Well, I don't know. You know, the guys on TV were funny last night. The between periods guys on whatever the hell station this was. We were watching them on Peacock or whatever hated the. They came and ripping both teams. This isn't good hockey. They wanted to.

[Pat Reusse]

Oh, that was great.

[Fritz]

They wanted. They wanted the one. Oh, you know, it was. You know, nobody was being responsible. I don't know who the coach is. The old coach.

[Pat Reusse]

This Minnesota has. This kid is so distinctive. What are the. Is Puckett a comparison? What Viking would be a comparison? I can't come up with one. This is superstar quality. That has not been. This is like getting. This is like the Dodgers having Shohei. Oh, Tony. Yeah.

[Fritz]

Almost Almost.

[Pat Reusse]

It's like the Yankees of old having DiMaggio. It's like Cleveland having Jim Brown. The people, the players that the whole nation watched and followed.

[Fritz]

Yeah, yeah, he's.

[Pat Reusse]

I gotta think there are people elsewhere in the country who tune in to watch Hughes because he's that different from other hockey players.

[Fritz]

Yeah, they and everybody. The comparison is Makar. Although I think Hughes holds the puck even more than he does.

[Pat Reusse]

Were you the one today that was on a bench? He looks haunted. Was that in your column today?

[Fritz]

No, no.

[Pat Reusse]

Well, I read your piece today. Oh, yours. About Hazy Heinzi.

[Fritz]

Heinze. He told me Heinze was funny. I said, really? Really. The face never changes. But anyway, yeah, probably not. By the way, that column that today on Heinze, I think I wrote Friday morning.

[Pat Reusse]

But you know, you know what I would have said yesterday? Pat wrote that it was. Oh, it was late. Late.

[Fritz]

Late was late. Well, you know what? You know what you find when you look up the result of last night's game, don't you?

[Joe]

Late. Wait a minute. Monday column you wrote Friday morning.

[Fritz]

Yeah, we ended up.

[Pat Reusse]

My Sunday column had to be done by Thursday, 5pm you, as long as

[Fritz]

you're looking, it was Monday, maybe Friday. I know that. My what? I wrote a Wolfies column. Oh, my Terrence Shannon column. You know, Terrence Shannon, it was a gamer column, was, hey, comes and wins the game. And that was written Friday morning and got in Sunday. It took two days to get that one in.

[Joe]

So we. We stumbled upon something. Pat, I think Joe would appreciate this. Johnny Height had a news story on Friday's Garage Logic broadcast that it turns out appeared in the Pioneer Press, but It was from 10 years ago, even though it was on the Friday edition of the Pioneer Press. So I had said to Joe, maybe this is the future of the Pioneer press. We run 10 year old stories.

[Fritz]

Accident or were you just running a story for his story that.

[Pat Reusse]

I don't know.

[Fritz]

It had to be for historic reasons, right? Right. I don't know.

[Pat Reusse]

I got Orlando and Detroit last night in basketball. Oh, wait, wait, that was late.

[Fritz]

Yes.

[Pat Reusse]

Toronto at Cleveland. Dang it. That ran late.

[Fritz]

Who on Cleveland one, Right?

[Pat Reusse]

Yes. I don't know. It's late Toronto.

[Fritz]

You know what?

[Pat Reusse]

Your paper, four page sports section today.

[Fritz]

Yeah, four page.

[Pat Reusse]

There's no baseball scores.

[Fritz]

Well, they're all late. Damn. No, there are. There's baseball stands.

[Joe]

Twins were done by.

[Pat Reusse]

Oh, here.

[Fritz]

No, I think. No, those twins got a story in the paper.

[Joe]

Oh, okay.

[Pat Reusse]

Oh, yeah, yeah, they won.

[Fritz]

The rumor is Joe tore it, but I don't think it's official yet. Oh, that's not. The rumor is it's tj, Tommy. Jeff.

[Pat Reusse]

Oh, no.

[Joe]

Which you know what that means.

[Fritz]

They should have traded him in the off season. Yeah, well, I should have done a lot of stuff.

[Joe]

Yes, you should.

[Pat Reusse]

Cleveland at the Athletics. That. That was late. Kansas. Kansas City at Seattle.

[Fritz]

That was definitely.

[Pat Reusse]

Well, here's one that you know, we'll probably get this one. Texas at Detroit.

[Fritz]

Oh, that.

[Pat Reusse]

That was late. That was late.

[Fritz]

Detroit. That had to be a one o' clock game.

[Pat Reusse]

So Chicago and San Diego. That was late. New York at the Dodgers.

[Fritz]

No chance on that one.

[Pat Reusse]

That was late.

[Fritz]

I really don't know why we're putting in there late, but what am I, you know. My. My goodness. Anyway, that game last night though was buzzing around in my head so much. I got about three hours sleep. I was, you know, I laid down, slept and then I. Something happened in my dreams and I started thinking about the game again and

[Pat Reusse]

thinking the stuff you read or watch before you go to bed can affect

[Fritz]

if you sleep or not, I think.

[Joe]

So that's what you're told. Stay off your phone before you go to bed.

[Pat Reusse]

That's not a problem for me. I can stay off.

[Joe]

Cuz you like to read before bed?

[Pat Reusse]

I just soon read.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Fritz]

Last night. No reading, no hockey game bad. No, I had time to read even last night.

[Pat Reusse]

Oh yeah? Well, the game was over.

[Fritz]

Damn thing.

[Pat Reusse]

In 1144-11.

[Joe]

Yeah, I was going to say it was after 1030 for sure.

[Pat Reusse]

Still plenty of reason.

[Fritz]

It was.

[Pat Reusse]

But we both vowed we weren't watching the overtime.

[Fritz]

No, no, no.

[Pat Reusse]

There was overtime. That turned out not to be a concern.

[Fritz]

Got it. You know what would have happened if we would have went into overtime? Nine. Nine. Then they would have played like two and a half. Then they would have played two hours. You know, it's just to mess with.

[Pat Reusse]

I don't think that my Montreal can get by the Buffaloes not shooting nine times.

[Fritz]

Oh God, no. No. Buffalo win.

[Pat Reusse]

Carolina must have a hell of a club.

[Fritz]

I don't know the whole East.

[Pat Reusse]

Well, they beat.

[Joe]

I was listening to.

[Pat Reusse]

No, they didn't play the Penguins. Philadelphia played the Penguins.

[Fritz]

That's right.

[Pat Reusse]

Y eliminated or Carolina eliminated? What? Ottawa.

[Fritz]

I. Somebody four straight. Somebody won four straight. Colorado. Carolina. Right.

[Pat Reusse]

Carolina and Colorado.

[Joe]

The.

[Pat Reusse]

What's your Mount Rushmore podcast.

[Joe]

There's two things that I think I am almost always. It's hungry and tired. I. I spend. I seriously probably spend 80% of my life, my waking life being either hungry or tired or Both. I will mirror that, but I will add a third one. I'm always also gassy.

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[Joe]

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[Pat Reusse]

What's your Mount Rushmore?

[Fritz]

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[Fritz]

Yeah, that. You know what that third period yesterday, I think that's what you saw. When one team has played two days earlier and the other team has got eight days off. Don't you think that you had better in the third?

[Pat Reusse]

Well, how long. I wonder if it's even a valid question. When you show up in Denver, how long does it take to get acclimated to 5200ft? AB sea level.

[Fritz]

That's the other thing too. But it certainly didn't seem to slowly they got it down it. It's. You know what I keep thinking he's playing we have at the downtown at the Grand Casino arena. Going to wait on Saturday. Yeah, there's some. Something on Ice show.

[Pat Reusse]

Maybe the award winning froster in town.

[Fritz]

No, they wouldn't. They wouldn't. They would bump them. But this is holiday show. I think there's some. There's something that's booked for months in advance that.

[Pat Reusse]

So they play Tuesday night in Colorado. They don't play again until Saturday night here.

[Fritz]

That's why they waited so long to announce what the schedule was because they were trying to bounce somebody and person people with the contract said no, you know, I can't. I don't know what it was. It was. I could look it up some kind of a.

[Pat Reusse]

Well, the rest won't hurt the boys. No.

[Fritz]

I'm very happy though for Tom Reed and everybody else on West.

[Pat Reusse]

Oh, they're gonna have another great week.

[Fritz]

Yeah, that'll be terrific. And this thing's gone. There's gonna be three games played here for sure. I guarantee it. You have my personal guarantee.

[Pat Reusse]

Well, there you are. Reavers bet against it. Guarantees no you know why I agree with you? Six goals is enough to win virtually any playoff game ever played.

[Fritz]

Oh, God, yes.

[Joe]

May 9th, Minnesota Wild versus Colorado. May 10th. Stifle stars on ice.

[Pat Reusse]

Well, no, it's not the 10th. We're right about what's happening between.

[Joe]

This is what's happening.

[Fritz]

They can't play Friday because they got stars on ice.

[Joe]

Stifle Stars on Ice is the event

[Fritz]

Patrick was talking about.

[Pat Reusse]

What about Thursday?

[Joe]

U.S. olympic gold medalists headline this event.

[Pat Reusse]

What about this Thursday? Why couldn't they play?

[Joe]

Can't answer that. There's nothing yet on this.

[Fritz]

Can I tell you that I don't

[Joe]

know anything about that?

[Fritz]

No, I can't answer that.

[Joe]

Well, aren't the Frost are also playing, correct?

[Fritz]

I don't know. Well, the Frost, supposedly because of this mess, have to play.

[Joe]

They're playing in Montreal.

[Fritz]

I just really don't have frost fever. I got.

[Joe]

You don't get the fever yet.

[Fritz]

I think you're gonna. You need more teams. You still only got eight.

[Joe]

This is the original six.

[Fritz]

Like watching the original six. Yeah.

[Pat Reusse]

They're already Stanley cup champions, aren't they?

[Joe]

Two times.

[Fritz]

Whatever we call who's.

[Joe]

We're a dynasty.

[Fritz]

Well, it must be named after the guy who's financing it. The guy that owns the Dodgers.

[Joe]

Yeah, the Cup.

[Fritz]

He gave him 10. He only gave him, I think, 10 million.

[Pat Reusse]

I looked up who owns the Ave. You know who owns the avs?

[Fritz]

Yes, I do, but I can't remember.

[Pat Reusse]

Cronky.

[Fritz]

Oh, the Rams guy.

[Joe]

Really?

[Fritz]

Yeah, he owns the abs.

[Joe]

God, how much money does he have?

[Pat Reusse]

That's Walmart money, isn't it?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Fritz]

He's a complete jackass, too, you know.

[Joe]

Yeah. He wouldn't share the bathroom when he was here.

[Fritz]

He had security guards for the bathroom when he was leaving St. Louis, he was here watching the. TCF Bank. He's watching the Rams and the Vikings, and he was moving them to Los angeles out of St. Louis. And Jimmy Thomas, a dogged NFL reporter from the St. Louis paper, had been chasing him all over trying to get some quotes. He wouldn't talk to anybody. And, you know, they're here and he's in a suite up there. But they got to use the media. He's got to use the bathroom.

[Pat Reusse]

This is back in the Dome days.

[Fritz]

No, he's got to use the. They put a security guard outside the whizzer when Crocky went in there so Jimmy Thomas could run in and interview him when he had it in his hand.

[Pat Reusse]

Well, wait a minute.

[Fritz]

Couldn't Go any place.

[Pat Reusse]

The Rams moved back a long time ago.

[Joe]

This is when they were playing the Vikings here.

[Fritz]

Bank Stadium. We've been in a new dump for 10 years.

[Pat Reusse]

Joe, when did the Rams go back to LA?

[Fritz]

Right then, whenever.

[Pat Reusse]

Oh, okay.

[Fritz]

14, 15. Something like 14, probably.

[Joe]

Yeah, something like. No, it was 2016. Was our first year.

[Fritz]

Yeah, 14 and 15. They played in TCF Bank Stadium. Have you been to TCF? Oh, you've been a concert, right?

[Joe]

No, he went to a Vikings game last year. Remember? We bought him the hat.

[Fritz]

No, no, TC Bank Stadium.

[Pat Reusse]

I've been there.

[Fritz]

Now, something else.

[Pat Reusse]

I've been there for a concert.

[Fritz]

Huntington Bank Stadium.

[Joe]

That the Gophers is Huntington Bank Stadium.

[Pat Reusse]

I've been there.

[Fritz]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Pat Reusse]

Okay. Been there many times.

[Fritz]

You were for concert, right? Yeah, I've been there six, seven times. Yeah, I was going to write a column and then I got deterred off it. But something I was going to write about how lucky we are to have Finchy and Heinze. And then I was going to say, we got a lot of good coaches in this town, blah, blah, blah. And I was going to say, although the verdict is still out on Kevin o' Connell and PJ Fleck getting fire up here.

[Pat Reusse]

Is that called trolling?

[Fritz]

Yeah, that would be trolling. And that would be a successful troll.

[Joe]

Two quick things. The Rams did move for the 2016 season. And you mentioned the Vikings. Did you see that? Your guy Charlie Walters stirred them all up over the weekend.

[Fritz]

They're denying it vociferously.

[Pat Reusse]

What did he say?

[Fritz]

He might be getting ready to sell? Jerry?

[Joe]

He said the Vikings lack of spending this year. He was speculating maybe the Wilfs are preparing to sell because the.

[Pat Reusse]

I think he makes that up. Well, are we hearing that on the streets?

[Joe]

No, we're not. Charlie was basically the only one that pointed out there, but I thought it was great because he got great reaction from it.

[Fritz]

We're not selling, you know.

[Joe]

Well, the reason it was suggested is the Seahawks are projected to sell for somewhere between 9 to 11 billion dollars.

[Fritz]

Yes.

[Joe]

Foot.

[Fritz]

But you know what I mean. The Zigmeister is What, in their 70s? Probably late 70s, but yeah. Hold it. Five more years, it'll be worth 15 billion.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Fritz]

Well, unless. Unless something.

[Pat Reusse]

Did we do the Joe Ryan thing on the air?

[Fritz]

Off.

[Pat Reusse]

You might as well make it on.

[Fritz]

Yeah, I don't think it's official yet, but.

[Pat Reusse]

What are you hearing?

[Fritz]

Well, it's out there that he blew it out. You know, he left Yesterday, after nine pitches with a bad elbow, they're saying that, you know, he hadn't thrown that well all year. Basically he hasn't had command. So he's had a dip in velocity, I would guess.

[Pat Reusse]

Is this Tommy John land?

[Fritz]

Oh, yeah. And. Well, I think he's only got a one year contract. What's the deal?

[Joe]

No, he's got one more year of control. I know, but after this year, if

[Fritz]

he's going to TJ and then he's a free agent and you're hurt like that, I don't know. Do they have the right to just release you?

[Joe]

Well, they could non tender them, I guess.

[Fritz]

Yeah. Yeah, that's what I mean. Do they have the right to non tender?

[Joe]

I believe they would, sure. Why not?

[Fritz]

Yeah, that's just.

[Joe]

That's too bad.

[Fritz]

And the other thing, you know, I've been saying, if they didn't have bad luck, they'd have none. Because that able kid comes, you know, they've run him out there two, three times. He's terrible. Then he looks like Jim Palmer and now he's. Then he's got a bad arm too. So they, they're not real fortunate. That's right. And they're not real smart.

[Pat Reusse]

And you know, how come Don Drysdriel never had a bad arm? How come camilo Pasquale throwing six different kinds of breaking? God Almighty.

[Fritz]

They're all throwing 98. And you know what they don't do? Because everybody's so bullpen happy. Do you realize this? When, when the major league roster limit was 25, there were generally now, right now it's 26 and you got 13 pitchers and only 13 position players. For decades with a 25 man roster, you had 15 or 16 position players and 9 or 10 pitchers. So you know, Tom Seaver goes out to the mound, he has a 1, 2, 3 first. He ain't saying, boy, I gotta go back out there and throw 100 again. He's just getting them out. And then, you know, Verlander's kind of the last generation of that guy who would get him out with 92 when he could and go as long as he could. And then if he started, you know, catching up to him, then he'd go to 98, you know, boom. So the human guys are going 98 from the get go.

[Pat Reusse]

And the human arm can't do it.

[Fritz]

I don't think so. Too many breaking balls, too many different kinds of breaking balls. It's, you know what, I, I turn on the ball game now and rarely do I Hang in there the whole time. I mean, I watch, but I click and.

[Pat Reusse]

You know, it'd be interesting for baseball if a Quinn Hughes developed a pitcher who went nine. Went nine every time. Yeah, every time.

[Joe]

Well, the. The other guy the Dodgers got, he's kind of been like that. Yamamoto.

[Fritz]

Oh, yeah, he's been pretty good. And he. He doesn't want to leave, you know. No.

[Joe]

Well, remember the World Series? He threw a com. Almost a complete game or whatever it was, and then he came back and relief the next game. Now, granted, it's the World Series, it's different, but

[Fritz]

you know, one of the iron men, though, our guy, Jose Barrios, who did not miss a game for. You know, he had hundreds of starts without missing a start. He's on the. He's on the disabled.

[Pat Reusse]

He. With Toronto still.

[Fritz]

He's on the disabled. You know, when baseball went to hell, when we became so politically correct that it had to be the injured list instead of the disabled list.

[Pat Reusse]

Oh, for Pete's sake.

[Fritz]

When did we change that? I still put in my print all the time. He's on the DL and I change it like it's the D. ED or

[Joe]

we worried about a fed.

[Fritz]

It's the injured list. I said, not in Fulda, Minnesota. It's not the injured list. The hell with you. I hadn't even noticed.

[Pat Reusse]

You're right.

[Joe]

I gotta tell Pat my nugget. So we've been mentioning the cities in Minnesota that are flying the old Minnesota state flag. And a listener had said, well, in Windom, Minnesota, they are flying it. And I said, the neat thing about Windom is their ballpark. The Wyndham Pirates on the river has a pirate ship as their left field wall. And we got an email from a guy, hey, thanks for giving. He said he listens to Monday night sports talk in GL saying, thanks for giving us a shout out.

[Fritz]

That's where I hurled and had to relieve myself. I've told that story 50 years. What happened? We're in the ballpark on the lake.

[Pat Reusse]

Yeah.

[Fritz]

You know, this is on the river down there on the. I think it's the cottonwood. Maybe it's the.

[Joe]

I think you might be right.

[Fritz]

But it's all in the right field behind 100ft behind the right field fence. And they were good. And.

[Pat Reusse]

And I said high school.

[Fritz]

Yeah. I was. I was the starter for the Fuller Raiders. Oh, and I was a strike thrower. Yeah. Without very much on it, but I could throw strikes.

[Pat Reusse]

Yeah. You are a control pitcher.

[Fritz]

This is also Joe the 60s. You know what Was, you know what was not only legal, it was encouraged. Taunting. Yeah, taunting. I didn't make it through the first two guys. Eddie Morris, Eddie Morris, who was a great athlete, and Roger Stempfle both hit balls out the right field. I thought they're gonna go in a river. And they got like six, seven runs off me. And I. They're just. They're just taunting the hell out of me. They knew who I was. Cause my old man was the undertaker. And I go to third base and they bring in. They bring in Charlie Brighton that you're

[Pat Reusse]

going to play third base.

[Fritz]

I played third base. Yeah, I went to third base. I stayed in the game because this wasn't free substitution. And Charlie, who had a good arm but a tendency to be wild, couldn't throw any strikes. And then we brought in Steinhorst who I think got us through the first, but we're still in the first. Now this story, like nine in the first and this is no 10 run, no mercy, no nothing. This is. You take it. And then Steinhorst came in to start the second and he couldn't throw any strikes. They come out and they waved me in from third base to pitch again. And I wish I had a tape. I wish back then we had tape recorders.

[Pat Reusse]

You relieved yourself.

[Fritz]

He's back. He's back. Then how did you.

[Pat Reusse]

How'd you do? The second time I get a few hours.

[Fritz]

I think they got bored. We finished the game.

[Joe]

They lost interest.

[Fritz]

They lost interest. The crap that was being thrown over the plate didn't change. Oh my God. That was. It was the modern day umpire or the coach or something would tell him to cool it. But could you.

[Pat Reusse]

Could a high school do that today?

[Fritz]

Oh, no, no.

[Joe]

You mean taunting or.

[Pat Reusse]

No, I know they can't taunt, but could a guy come back in the game?

[Joe]

Oh yeah, yeah. There's reentry in town.

[Fritz]

Ball. Oh, I went to. By Saturday morning, I'm doing something on the kid from Edina. A boo guard who was the tailback over beat Morehead in the state final. 300 yards. And then the goalie.

[Joe]

He's the goalie.

[Fritz]

Yeah. And now he's a left fielder. And that's probably going to be a baseball player. So I went over and see him play and saw Edina play. You're Creighton Raiders. Yeah, and Creighton is, you know, Buzz Hanahan's coaching them. And they, they got off to an early lead and then they kind of kicked it around and got beat and. But was a. Don't you Have a beautiful day.

[Joe]

A young one playing for Cretan, or did you?

[Pat Reusse]

No, no.

[Joe]

Oh, I thought you did.

[Fritz]

Okay, well, anyway, Creighton's good, you know, Cretins, they got. They got a mower or two on the way. Uncle Nieces.

[Pat Reusse]

I had a grandkid on the team, headed to the team and he blew out his arm.

[Joe]

Oh, that's what it was. Okay. Yeah, I remember. Okay.

[Pat Reusse]

Freshman, junior, he never made the varsity.

[Fritz]

So. What is terrible what he did?

[Pat Reusse]

He's fine. He's just. Yeah. Everything hurt. I mean, he just couldn't figure it out.

[Fritz]

Yeah. Even at that age, they're trying to get him to throw pitches, you know.

[Joe]

Well, I'm dealing with it. At 11 years old, I said, just throw your fastball.

[Fritz]

Yes.

[Joe]

You don't have to worry about no Leland.

[Fritz]

See that kid right there?

[Joe]

Just throw it straight.

[Fritz]

Yeah. Don't quit.

[Joe]

Quit getting fancy.

[Pat Reusse]

There's nothing wrong with letting them put the ball in play.

[Joe]

That's right.

[Fritz]

I gotta start staying away from Luke's games though. Last year, let's go here. Last year we went to the 14 year old game on a Sunday afternoon or Saturday afternoon and they'd played their East Ridge and they played Woodbury, arch rival Woodbury, and they just got done beating them 22 to 3. Now they're playing a second game. They got beat, really kicked it around like a bunch of morons and they got beat. The other day we went out there, it's 50 degrees, we're freezing to death. They'd beaten Woodbury like 18 to 3 the day before. They got beat again by Woodbury. They kicked it around and lost the game.

[Pat Reusse]

Did you have unkind remarks after that game?

[Fritz]

Not really. I just wonder how they, you know, you know what the secret of baseball is at all levels, but particularly that one when you hit the ball to you, if you can pick it up and throw it to first base, things are going to go pretty good. If you're not. That's what I said about when we played at Creighton. I told you this. The 14 year old team played at Creighton and the top of the first inning, they hit three, you know, fairly firm ground balls to the left side of the infield. And these Creighton guys picked it up cleanly and threw it directly to first base. No drama, right? Nobody kicking it around. Pick it up, throw it to first, run off.

[Pat Reusse]

And you're saying, that's a key, that's a key.

[Fritz]

And then. And the leadoff hitter for Creighton is getting in the box. And they're saying from his dugout. Come on, Maurer, get us started. I knew the East Ridge boys were in trouble.

[Joe]

Another Mauer.

[Fritz]

It was Jake's kid, I guess. Okay, Jake's kid. They got a bunch of them.

[Joe]

Speaking of baseball, I was alerted by a loyal listener. And I was gonna make sure that I promised to bring this up to you, too. I know you. This is on the list of things you don't like. We had 102,000 people at Texas A and M's Kyle Field for the Savannah bananas. 100.

[Pat Reusse]

I saw that last night. Doing some clicking. I couldn't believe it. I was wondering where that was being played. I didn't know.

[Joe]

The Texas A and M football stadium.

[Fritz]

This is the league has started, Right? I saw us up in these 60s. They had a 60, but they're all like the Washington Generals playing the Harlem globetrotters, right?

[Joe]

Yep. 102.

[Fritz]

When are they here?

[Joe]

Is it in June?

[Fritz]

What do we want? What do we like that you catch the ball behind your back. What do you do?

[Joe]

Theatrics. We like the theatrics. Here's what this is all about, boys.

[Fritz]

I can't watch it.

[Joe]

This is all about Instagram and stuff. The people that want to post that. I'm at the Savannah Bananas game so I can be on my Instagram reel. That's what this is all about. This is all fueled by.

[Pat Reusse]

I saw enough of it to see that Banana's pitcher didn't wear a hat. He wore a head shirt, the bandana. And then when he struck somebody out, he kind of did a little dance.

[Fritz]

Okay.

[Pat Reusse]

And then I quickly knowing the commercial was over in the hockey game.

[Fritz]

Two games or three?

[Joe]

I'm looking it up right now. Let me pull up their schedule.

[Fritz]

I know somebody at the paper's gonna have to go, but it ain't gonna be me.

[Joe]

We're in Milwaukee June 7th at the Brewers Stadium.

[Fritz]

Wouldn't we be coming in?

[Pat Reusse]

Will they sell that out?

[Joe]

Oh, God. Y.

[Progressive Insurance Announcer]

Yes.

[Fritz]

Who will they play?

[Joe]

They're playing the Texas something or others.

[Pat Reusse]

Oh, they have a team that follows them around.

[Joe]

There's a couple. There's four of them, I believe in the same league.

[Pat Reusse]

So the Bananas aren't in a league.

[Fritz]

Do they do the same things, the other teams, or they just play baseball?

[Pat Reusse]

They're the Patsies.

[Fritz]

Okay.

[Joe]

Saturday. Excuse me. Friday, August 7th. And Saturday, August 8th, we are Target Field.

[Fritz]

Okay. And I. Tickets are going like hotcakes, I guess

[Joe]

I would imagine they've got to be sold out. By now.

[Pat Reusse]

Who will they play here? The Saints.

[Joe]

They are playing. I'm trying to look. This won't pull up their logo, but it's at the very top. Hang with me.

[Pat Reusse]

Are the Bananas in a league?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Fritz]

Well, they formed it.

[Joe]

They are playing the Long Beach. No. What is that? Loco Beach Coconuts, when they come to.

[Fritz]

Exactly.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, they were playing the Texas Tailgaters in College Station over the weekend. 102,000.

[Fritz]

The first shamed major leaguer who has no money left. Who pissed all his money gambling. He's 32 years old and he spent a year in jail.

[Joe]

Oh, I got it.

[Fritz]

Fraud. He's gonna end up. Who's gonna be the first big leaguer?

[Joe]

Hey, Patryshka, I got us an idea. I'm your new agent, Jake Screw Elko Baseball. We're going to the Savannah Bananas.

[Pat Reusse]

Okay, I'm still trying to get this straight.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Pat Reusse]

They're in a league with standings and everything. I mean, in other words, they created it. Yeah, well, everything's created. The minor leagues are that thing the Saints are in.

[Fritz]

I don't think. Are these other teams playing each other in a pre game before the other one or they play someplace. Are they. Do they do some of this silly stuff in smaller towns or what? That.

[Joe]

I don't know.

[Fritz]

I guess I heard something in the background saying league play. But if you watch ESPN's top 10 now.

[Joe]

Oh, they're on.

[Fritz]

There's a fighting chance of Bananas gonna be on there.

[Joe]

I've seen ahead of a major league baseball highlight.

[Fritz]

Yeah, yeah. You know what? What the hell?

[Joe]

What did in Roy.

[Fritz]

I'm glad.

[Joe]

Banana ball.

[Fritz]

I'm glad I'm 80. I'm glad I'm 80. Four or five more years of this crap. To hell with it. See you people later. See you people later.

[Joe]

Hey, Rob Manfred says. I got an idea. Let's bring banana ball to the big stage.

[Fritz]

That's right. That's right.

[Joe]

Have him take on Houston.

[Fritz]

You know, I'm convinced, I'm not joking, that five years from now, each NFL team will have an AI player on the field. We'll have a 1A. We'll have one AI player.

[Pat Reusse]

I'm not changing my prediction for the NFL. It is going to morph into a kind of a reality TV quasi sport.

[Joe]

You've already nailed that. We're there.

[Pat Reusse]

Yeah. You can't keep going like this because either that or you'll accept. Accept death.

[Fritz]

Yes.

[Pat Reusse]

You'll accept a lot of.

[Joe]

Yeah, but what was his 40 type?

[Pat Reusse]

Yeah.

[Joe]

When he died?

[Pat Reusse]

That. That Would be the ultimate. What's coming up on the Ride League? Well, we lost three players. Well, who's playing this week?

[Fritz]

What's coming up? What was the original ones coming up on the Ride?

[Joe]

You had Joe because Joe was. It was during a major. I know that because Joe was terribly distracted by golf on the television and not listening.

[Fritz]

I was talking about someone who died.

[Joe]

No, you know yourself, Joe. What happens if I come in here with I got pancreatic cancer? What's coming up on the Ride?

[Pat Reusse]

No, it was because we were running out of time.

[Joe]

Yeah. You saw the clock and the light went on. The monkey hit the button. He had a job to do. Hey, I have to ask you.

[Pat Reusse]

You know what?

[Fritz]

I'm glad that when I had to go back Rochester three times. Times I didn't have Bank Gratic. That's true.

[Joe]

Because then Joe would have had to

[Fritz]

say, there's no ride left. He's gone.

[Joe]

He's dead. Hey, how many derbies did you cover?

[Fritz]

Just one.

[Joe]

You both just did one.

[Fritz]

Strike the gold is the one I covered.

[Pat Reusse]

Who won when I did it? Affirmed.

[Fritz]

Did you see where this one came from?

[Pat Reusse]

His last place?

[Fritz]

Yeah. And they had their highest. I think they're now figuring out how to put streaming into their ratings now because everybody's claiming the biggest audiences.

[Pat Reusse]

I meant to ask you. This Friday, there was a time when we would all have Derby fever. We knew the horses. We were making Best with Friends.

[Joe]

What happened?

[Fritz]

I don't know what happened, but they had their biggest TV audience in years.

[Joe]

And I was at the new place next to Canterbury, the boardwalk that our buddy Mr. MoneyTalk has a hand in. The place was packed.

[Fritz]

Now, what is it?

[Joe]

It's called. It's literally on the first turn of the Canterbury racetrack in Shakopee. It's fantastic. Yeah, it's really cool.

[Pat Reusse]

Really.

[Fritz]

I haven't been out there. I was gonna go out next. They opened the 23rd for racing.

[Joe]

You should stop by. It's a really. It's a really cool spot.

[Fritz]

And you can gamble there, too.

[Joe]

I don't know if you can, but there's a fine dining restaurant area. There's a place where bands can play, and there's a huge patio.

[Fritz]

Well, they had to do something when the tribe stopped. Stopped giving them 10 million a year.

[Joe]

They're also opening up that brand new amphitheater that's out there. And that place is.

[Fritz]

That's what we need, more amphitheaters. Everybody's building one. Mini. Isn't Minneapolis building one? Somebody else?

[Joe]

I think so.

[Fritz]

We're gonna have. We're gonna have too many options. If poor Mick. Mick brings. Brings his crew to town for this one, they're going to kill themselves going to amphitheaters, man. Are they done? The Stones, are they done?

[Pat Reusse]

They were gonna go out and Keith said, I'm not going. So now they took a little time and they probably. He'll probably go out again.

[Fritz]

He's gotta work on his knees. He's gotta bend, get oxygen and then get up.

[Joe]

I'll go up, but I want to sit.

[Fritz]

He's had to have knees. He's had to have knee replacements, I would guess, you know, so. Because, you know, I. Even with my new knee, I don't know if I could get down there like that and then pop right back up and.

[Pat Reusse]

Can you believe they're outliving it?

[Fritz]

Is. It is.

[Pat Reusse]

It's amazing.

[Fritz]

Yeah. There's no.

[Pat Reusse]

They got a new album.

[Fritz]

There's no rhyme or reason to who. Who makes it and who doesn't, you know.

[Joe]

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[Pat Reusse]

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[Fritz]

Oh, God. It was an old time, but this one had to take down in honks.

[Pat Reusse]

Well, yeah, that's how they do it.

[Fritz]

Well, I watched them.

[Pat Reusse]

They're gonna let it fall on Harold's house.

[Fritz]

I watched the five Hispanic fellas take down my big pine last year. Yeah, that was pretty impressive. Right next to the house, one of them fellas went up there and climbed up there. The branches are getting thinner. They got ropes on them. They're making sure they follow the right guy. Hour and 15 minutes, this big tree. You didn't know there'd been one there. They didn't leave out, did they?

[Pat Reusse]

Get rid of the stump, everything. Boom.

[Fritz]

Yeah.

[Pat Reusse]

So you gave me his number once. I would need it again.

[Fritz]

I think I got her.

[Pat Reusse]

You gotta hang on to that guy.

[Fritz]

1500. That's cheap. Nothing. That's not to get rid of this stuff.

[Joe]

Call me now.

[Fritz]

I threw in an extra.

[Pat Reusse]

I'm afraid to say anything.

[Fritz]

I threw an extra 102 just because you were impressed.

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[Fritz]

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[Fritz]

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[Joe]

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[Fritz]

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[Joe]

You know, I dated a phone sex operator. Did she know that you were dating? They would have to go into like a call center cubicles and stuff like that. And having phone sex with some lonely guy while you're sitting in a cubicle,

[Pat Reusse]

do you think that it would make you more competitive?

[Fritz]

Did you have to ding the bell? Yeah, I got one.

[Verbo Care Announcer]

He's done.

[Joe]

Oh, my gosh.

[Fritz]

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