MNST: The NHL and NBA seasons are way to long!!!!!

Summary

Garage Logic Podcast Summary

Episode: MNST: The NHL and NBA seasons are way too long!!!!!
Date: June 1, 2026
Host: Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor")
Panel: Mark, Pat
Network: Gamut Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the Garage Logic crew dives into why the NHL and NBA seasons feel endless, debating playoff formats, the impact of TV revenue, and the effect on athletes and fans. The crew reflects on Minnesota sports, reminisces about local legends, discusses recent sports headlines (including a bombshell NFL trade), and meanders through nostalgic and local topics, all wrapped in their classic blend of humor and old-school storytelling.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NHL and NBA Playoffs – Are They Too Long?

[01:46–04:01]

• Mark observes that this year he watched more NHL playoffs than usual and questions, “They’re too long.”
• Joe agrees, emphasizing even the best teams like Colorado get worn out:

  “You can be the best team...and you just run out of steam.” (Joe, 02:14)

• TV networks are blamed for preferring longer series for more content and ad revenue.
• They ponder solutions—shorter series or cutting the number of playoff teams.
• Pat suggests the Olympic break only accounted for about a week but the real problem is schedule compaction.

“How about best of five and get this thing over with before June?” (Mark, 02:35)
“It should be over before the US Open, shouldn't it?” (Joe, 07:56)

2. The Playoff System & Greed

[02:25–05:55]

• Mark asks about returning to best-of-five series or eliminating the number of playoff teams to preserve player energy and fan interest.
• Joe explains TV revenue now outweighs gate revenue, making shorter playoffs unattractive for leagues.
• They point out both hockey and basketball seasons stretch into the summer, clashing with better outdoor activity time.
• Joe notes teams like the Minnesota Wild’s attendance wouldn’t drop until the very end, showing fans’ loyalty but the system’s excess.
• Frustration is voiced over the challenge of even finding which channel games are on (scattered over different networks and streaming).

3. Baseball's Similar Problem & Local Musings

[06:26–08:01]

• The group notes MLB is now stretching its season close to November, paralleling the NHL/NBA bloat.
• Lamenting modern broadcasting, Joe complains about unfamiliar announcers and local teams performing poorly.

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4. Notable Sports Headlines

Myles Garrett Trade Bombshell

[16:42–18:08]

• Pat interrupts with breaking news:

  “The Cleveland Browns have just traded Myles Garrett to the Los Angeles Rams.” (Pat, 16:50)

• Large trade package stuns the panel, with the Rams giving up several draft picks and Jared Verse.

Vikings & Magic New Hires

[18:12–19:00]

• Discussion about Minnesota Vikings’ new GM (another Seattle executive), and the Orlando Magic hiring a Cretin-Derham Hall alum as coach.

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5. Minnesota Sports Nostalgia

[19:00–26:33]

• Recounting high school and college basketball lore (Cretin-Derham Hall, Arvesta Kelly).
• Reminiscing about the Minnesota Twins’ repeated rebuilds and trade flubs.
• Critique of management:

  “Why do we have all these 32-year-olds? Why don’t we have some 23-year-olds who are failing miserably but might get better?” (Joe, 21:16)

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6. Twins & MLB Headaches

[21:09–24:55]

• Roster questions: lament over letting young arms go, constant injuries, and “everyone has an MRI machine now,” adding to perceived player fragility.
• Lighthearted complaints about the Twins’ performance and Target Field’s 20th anniversary.

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7. Parades, Playoff Growth, and Expansion Teams

[25:12–26:33]

• Moaning over how Stanley Cup championship parades differ across cities (“Vegas, at least, has showgirls and animal acts; Raleigh just has a parking lot.”).
• Historical expansion context:

  “Nine years ago, NHL was so hard up for money that they…let you fleece every team for some of their best players.” (Joe, 25:12)

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8. Old-Timers, Minnesota Heroes, and Local Anecdotes

[09:02–11:19]

• Joe and Mark recall Mr. Speeds, a Minnesotan who built a tiny boat in his garage and bobbed across the Atlantic in 1979, celebrating “blue-collar” Minnesota heroes.
• Mark:

  “He built the boat himself in his garage.” (Mark, 10:47)

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9. The Economics of Modern Sports

[32:00–34:07]

• Chat about ownership, cross-league franchises, and the eye-watering value of teams.
• Paul Allen’s family selling Seahawks for charity is mentioned:

  “They’re giving it all away to charity. That was his dying wish.” (Pat, 33:57)

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10. Baseball Updates and Nostalgia

[34:48–39:23]

• Late baseball scores, memories of the Gophers’ rare golf title, and more inside references to Minnesota’s dry spell in championships (except for women’s hockey).

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11. Suburban vs. City Sports Facilities

[44:52–45:10]

• Mark:

  “There’s not really good athletic fields in the city proper—you get out to the suburbs, there’s some gorgeous stuff.”

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12. Life, Local Politics, and Old-School Logic

[45:10–49:15]

• Local street repair gripes and the idea of a "common sense" approach to government from the “Gumption County” mindset.
• Joe jokes about a campaign promising no road repairs and using “eight old guys with trucks” to fill potholes.
• Frustration about constant road construction and silly street closures.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “You can be the best team...and you just run out of steam.” (Joe, 02:14)
• “How about best of five and get this thing over with before June?” (Mark, 02:35)
• “I liked when the American League played the National League in the World Series and the hell with the rest of it.” (Joe, 04:39)
• “Why do we have all these 32-year-olds? Why don’t we have some 23-year-olds who are failing miserably but might get better?” (Joe, 21:16)
• “It should be over before the US Open, shouldn't it?” (Joe, 07:56)
• On Mr. Speeds, the solo Atlantic crosser: “He built the boat himself in his garage.” (Mark, 10:47)
• “They’re giving it all away to charity. That was his dying wish.” (Pat, 33:57)
• “There’s not really good athletic fields in the city proper—you get out to the suburbs, there’s some gorgeous stuff.” (Mark, 44:52)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:46 — Mark: “The NHL and NBA playoffs are too long.”
• 02:35 — Discussing shortening series: “Best of five and get this thing over with before June.”
• 07:56 — “It should be over before the US Open...”
• 16:50 — Bombshell: Myles Garrett traded to Rams.
• 21:16 — Joe’s critique of Twins roster strategy.
• 33:57 — Paul Allen’s family donating Seahawks proceeds to charity.
• 44:52 — Mark: suburban vs. city athletic facilities.
• 45:27 — Joe’s satirical gubernatorial platform.

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Tone & Style

The discussion is witty, wandering, and filled with dry, Midwestern humor. The show balances pointed sports commentary with nostalgia, local color, and gently curmudgeonly takes on the absurdities of modern sports and urban life. The camaraderie between the hosts keeps the pace lively even as the topics range from serious sports debates to friendly neighborhood tales.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This installment of Garage Logic is a quintessential slice of Minnesota sports talk, flavored heavily with homespun wisdom, sharp critiques of professional sports’ excesses, and loving jabs at local teams’ perpetual underachievement. If you care about the spirit (and gripes) of the Minnesota fan, mixed with laughter and lore, this episode sums up everything Garage Logic fans love.

Transcript

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[Mark]

I gotta ask you something.

[Joe]

I'm ready.

[Mark]

I spent more time this year than most years watching the NHL playoffs.

[Joe]

All right.

[Mark]

And there's something nagging me in the back of my mind that it's probably true of the NBA, too. They're too long.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Mark]

When you get to the end, I don't care how well trained these guys are, they've played too many games.

[Joe]

You can be the best team, which Colorado might have been, and you just run out of steam.

[Mark]

And I don't know how they're going to fix it because they're greedy and they need the money.

[Joe]

They're not.

[Mark]

How are you going to fix this?

[Joe]

I don't know. You know, the ending.

[Mark]

Best of five again?

[Joe]

First couple of rounds, maybe. Yeah, yeah. But you know what you could do is best of five until the finals.

[Mark]

How about best of five and get this thing over with before June.

[Joe]

But here's the problem. It's now more than what you're bringing at the gate. Used to be what you bring it at the gate. You now have four TV outlets for hockey and everything. And they want games, man. They're very depressed about the, the, the two short series. Right.

[Mark]

Because Carolina went 8. 0 in the first two series.

[Joe]

No, that was bad. They, they, they wanted to get rid of them. I mean, they wanted more games, but then Colorado gets swept. They weren't counting on that. But yeah, you're right. I mean, I don't see how people who go the distance in either one of those sports makes it to the finish line. The hockey is brutal, but if you're one of the seven or eight guys who plays on a basketball team, that's pretty brutal too, you know, so.

[Mark]

Well, plus, it's the time of year when I'm no longer sitting in the house at night. Forget it. It's too nice out.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's.

[Mark]

You've gone too far.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Now, I'm not naive. You're never going to go back to the original six being done in mid April. I get that. But you got to come up with something, A showcase the best talent where they're still able to be the best talent and get this thing over before June.

[Pat]

Does the Olympic break factor in? Is it later than it normally would be?

[Mark]

Some guys play 125 games.

[Joe]

This was. I think the Olympic break only added about a week, though. Oh, I think it only had.

[Mark]

Yeah. But they were gone for days before that week and days after.

[Joe]

They compacted everything. So. Yeah, it's brutal. It's. You know, it, it's all. Baseball is doing the same thing, Joe. We. Now they're not playing till November.

[Mark]

Damn near.

[Joe]

It's crazy.

[Mark]

I don't like it. It. I don't like it. I disagree.

[Joe]

Yeah, let's get the.

[Mark]

I don't know what the answer is.

[Joe]

I was saying. I was. I was laying on the couch watching a ball game the other day and said, you know what? I liked when the American League played the National League in the World Series and the hell with the rest of it.

[Mark]

Okay, what about this? What about eliminating one round of the playoffs? What about eliminating four teams?

[Joe]

Oh, they are doing that because.

[Mark]

Well, how many teams are in it now? 16.

[Joe]

Maintain baseball.

[Mark]

No, in hockey.

[Joe]

Hockey. 16.

[Mark]

Let's go to 12.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Makes the regular season that much more crucial.

[Joe]

They want everybody to. With their, with their new point system with. When you get. When you can lose 15 games and get a point for them.

[Mark]

That's euphoria.

[Joe]

Everything's so jammed up. They want everybody to think they have a chance with two weeks to go in the season. That's not going to happen, I don't think. Although tickets, you know what the Wilds ticket selling for instance. And they're almost a typical market is they. If they were eliminated with a month ago the season, you know what the impact of having attendance? About 5% people still go to the game.

[Mark]

So.

[Joe]

Yeah, I agree with you. It's just endless. And of course the other thing is finding it now. Where are we hiding? I go to this little deal and. Yeah, that is the game you play.

[Pat]

Where the hell is the game?

[Mark]

Well, no, that wasn't that hard. It's in the grid every day.

[Joe]

Well, hockey, basketball is scattered around.

[Mark]

Some of the basketball was on prime, only I couldn't get it because I couldn't figure it out.

[Joe]

Yesterday, the twins, which he didn't have to watch a lot of it, but they had some announcer that wasn't affiliated with either. I. I don't know.

[Pat]

I only listened.

[Joe]

We were driving around some strange announcers. I. The other team had their regular ones, but the Twinks had two guys I never heard before. Was it they.

[Pat]

They weren't on national tv, were they?

[Joe]

I don't know. Well, if they were, they were embarrassing us again.

[Pat]

Oh, so how about the fact that we got swept and we didn't even face the best pitcher in baseball.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Skins. Yeah, we didn't. They were all angry when they didn't have no pitch.

[Mark]

Wasn't his turn.

[Joe]

Which was unfortunate because then the girlfriend wasn't in the stands to have some camera work.

[Pat]

I was there last year for the Skeens game at Target Field and it was the biggest crowd they had all year. And it was strictly because Livy Dunn posted about it on social media.

[Joe]

Thousand young girls who are gymnasts went to see Libby Dunn.

[Pat]

Yep, 100%.

[Mark]

What did she make it? She would stand up and wave and we have to cite her being in the crowd.

[Pat]

They did.

[Mark]

They.

[Pat]

They did post about her on the

[Joe]

scoreboard and got autographs and stuff, right?

[Pat]

I can't blame them either.

[Joe]

Oh, she can't blame attractive lass, that's for sure.

[Pat]

She does like the attention.

[Mark]

Anyway, it's just.

[Joe]

That's because she's an influencer.

[Mark]

Yeah, it just. It just gets to you. I mean this. We're not even starting till tomorrow night. It's June 17th is the last possible day. It's too long. Sorry. It's just too long.

[Joe]

It's too much. It's. It should be over before the US Open. Shouldn't.

[Mark]

Thank you.

[Pat]

How about this? I got a better idea. What they should have done is pushed her back even further. You could have had game seven on the White House lawn right before the UFC fight.

[Joe]

Develop it.

[Mark]

Be classier than a UFC fight.

[Joe]

I can't believe the monster. I didn't realize we were building that on the White House.

[Mark]

Oh yeah.

[Joe]

Isn't there.

[Mark]

Why does he put an old stove out there and a Chevy up on blocks?

[Joe]

Oh, man alive. I got to. I gotta, I gotta admit, the game of flaws. The bride has defeated me because I put about a 10 minute limit when I get home from something I try to trump.

[Mark]

I try to trump

[Joe]

what, what, what the dumbass did today.

[Mark]

Right? I get the same thing.

[Joe]

Ten minutes is the limit. I can't, I can't go any longer.

[Mark]

I've tried a 10pm cut off.

[Joe]

That's a good idea.

[Pat]

He starts getting home at 9:50.

[Mark]

No. And that gets violated. I said, hey, hey, hey. It's the cutoff. It's.

[Joe]

Yes, yes. Unfortunately, they aren't getting up at 2am to see what he's posting. And then they could start all over again right in the middle of the night. So that would be good. God, it's, it's crazy, man. It's the craziest. And then you got all these Trump hating web things. Pod who are making themselves Midas and these other people and they're, you know, he had one, you can't believe this about Trump the other day. So I happened to click on it and it was. By his standards, it was zero. What are you talking about? Anyway, yeah, it's, it's, it's tough around there, man. It's, it's, it's, it's bad. So anyhow, you were talking about Mr. Speech. Unbelievable when you think about that.

[Mark]

When I saw his boat.

[Joe]

Yeah. On White Beer.

[Mark]

I was a distance.

[Joe]

Right.

[Mark]

I thought it was a marker buoy for a reef.

[Joe]

How do you do that?

[Mark]

It was that small.

[Joe]

What was now?

[Mark]

Well, it was designed to. He tumbled his way across the ocean. Yeah, it was designed to bob and tumble.

[Joe]

Gotta have a strong tummy still.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe]

What'd we eat?

[Mark]

Yeah, you can get it.

[Joe]

How long would it take him?

[Mark]

Well, he left on this day and he got there and what did it say? July 24th.

[Joe]

Holy cow. God Almighty. So seven weeks basically, huh? Seven, eight weeks.

[Mark]

He built the boat himself in his garage.

[Joe]

He didn't have a Mrs. Piece in there?

[Mark]

Yes, I believe he did.

[Joe]

Boy, she must be. She wanted to get rid of him or. She was very tolerant, one of the two.

[Mark]

Well, I think she was there to greet him at the end and all that good stuff. Well, here it is right here. He left today. So he left June 1, 1979. He got there July 24.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Mark]

1979.

[Joe]

Wow. So he didn't have a bigger boat following him or anything? No, did he? Nothing.

[Mark]

Almost two months. Wow. As I understand it, he. He kind of bobbed and like a bobber going across the ocean.

[Joe]

Where did he. Where did he finally land? Where?

[Mark]

Foul mouth Falmouth.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Mark]

And it was a hell of a. He's. You know what? He's not celebrating enough, is he?

[Joe]

No, he's not. He's a Minnesota hero. And I don't think it made him wealthy. He did it. He just kept living his blue collar light.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah, he. Well, I think he was a 3M guy, wasn't he? I don't know. I have to look it up.

[Joe]

But he had to take a little extra vacation because.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe]

What's your excuse, Mr. Speeds? Well, I'm.

[Mark]

I'm in the middle of the ocean.

[Joe]

I'm jumping in a ten foot potent. Going across the Atlantic. And they said, well, if you get back, we'll still have your job.

[Mark]

I'm sure he had pleasant days where he could, oh sure, sail and actually like a boat, seagulls were following them,

[Joe]

hoping they threw him.

[Mark]

But you've seen videos of. Of stormy oceans. Yes, well, he had. I wonder how many days he went backwards.

[Joe]

Yes. That's the thing with the wind.

[Pat]

How do you know? Yeah, how do you know if you're going?

[Mark]

Especially if you're upside down.

[Joe]

That's right. God almighty. It's unbelievable.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Joe]

For a guy who. Whose adventure was standing on a duck boat and going and picking up ducks with the old man, that was not something. Speaking of that, Pat, how about this much water?

[Pat]

We're having the Lyman's in studio again on Wednesday and I had played their first visit with us on Friday is the best of. And the best part for me was you joined because it must have been a Friday, obviously. And you joined after that. And Joe began the conversation by asking you how would the game of flaws work, traveling the world, including cruises and whatnot?

[Mark]

Because these linemans must like each other.

[Joe]

They must really.

[Mark]

They really do.

[Pat]

Pat's answer was, I don't think that would work out

[Mark]

today.

[Joe]

However, I was driving through the neighborhood, cutting over to the road to come over here. And there was a fella walking with a big gas station with a gas can.

[Mark]

One of those red, big, they're called gas cans.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But it was not an old fashioned one. A plastic, you know, newer one. Yeah. And so I had the top down. I pulled up and I said, would you like a ride somewhere?

[Mark]

Oh, God.

[Joe]

And, and it was about four or five blocks, you know, over the other side of the highway. 100 actually. And he says, did ever. Did anyone ever tell you you look like Patrick Ricey? I said, that jackass.

[Mark]

That's what I would have said. I said, no, no,

[Joe]

no. That jackass.

[Mark]

Did it last? Did you convince it?

[Joe]

Yeah, but I, I, he was very grateful.

[Mark]

Did you give him a ride?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Oh, good.

[Joe]

Yeah. Cuz he, he had five blocks to walk. Five, six blocks.

[Mark]

Sure.

[Pat]

I'm headed to Woodbury.

[Joe]

Yeah, he was very grateful even before he knew he was with.

[Mark]

Well, how did he run out? You know, there's no excuse for an adult to run out of gas. Sorry. That's.

[Pat]

He got all sorts of gauges.

[Joe]

What was the guy he told, oh, 40.

[Mark]

Hey, shouldn't run. I'm sorry. He shouldn't have run out of gas.

[Joe]

Trucks having problems? His trucks having gauge problems? Sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. So, well, maybe, maybe good Ford gas because he doesn't have 30 bucks for 4 gallons. That could be it.

[Pat]

You know what's not fun is having two kids in travel.

[Mark]

Baseball.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. That only got a tank a day.

[Mark]

Your gas bill's got to be incredible.

[Pat]

I've hit my number. Well, put it that way.

[Joe]

Yesterday, I guess I was a little over a quarter and I was, I felt pretty good because it was only 47, I think, or something like that. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. You know, the funny thing is, even if they get her pumping here, even if they get her going, the boys, the thieves are still going to keep it up there over four bucks as long as they can, right? Yep.

[Mark]

No, I don't.

[Joe]

Do you think they would?

[Mark]

I think it'll take a while to get the system flowing again, but once it does, you watch those prices.

[Joe]

Oh God. They're diving down. Yeah.

[Pat]

Just in time for the nation.

[Mark]

Gas in Chicago. Six bucks a gallon.

[Joe]

Do we have any idea if we're closer to settle one?

[Mark]

It changes day to day.

[Joe]

It changes hour to hour, doesn't it? Yeah.

[Mark]

You know, so some days he's in a hurry.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Mark]

And other days he's in no hurry.

[Joe]

And then he's gonna. And then the next day he's just Gonna wipe off the face of the earth.

[Mark]

I have no idea what he's up to.

[Joe]

So the, the, the. I really think that the Nation deserved a 250th celebration. Right? That's a big year.

[Mark]

Right?

[Joe]

That's a big year.

[Mark]

It's kind of screwed up from the beginning.

[Joe]

So everybody come, you know, you know, he should have invited Barack, should have had the tomb standing up there.

[Mark]

He wasn't going to do that.

[Joe]

No. So that's what you gotta, you gotta, you gotta be benevolent on the 250. Right.

[Mark]

He said he's gonna have the guy there who draws bigger crowds than Elvis Presley.

[Joe]

Him, your president. God, he's a unique individual.

[Pat]

I think they must have done this to time up the recording of Monday night sports talk. But we've got a bombshell in the NFL, ladies and gentlemen.

[Joe]

What? What?

[Pat]

The Cleveland Browns have just traded Myles Garrett to the Los Angeles Rams.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Pat]

The Rams are sending. How about this foot ball? They're sending a 2027 first round pick, a 2028 second round pick, a 2029 third round pick, and they're getting superstar youngster Jared Verse in the deal. Wow, that is a bombshell, Joe.

[Joe]

Jared Runner. Maybe the Rams are gone.

[Mark]

Is he a runner?

[Pat]

Defensive end.

[Mark]

Defensive end.

[Joe]

But he was hurt some last year, right, Garrett, wasn't he? No. I guess. No.

[Pat]

He won the defensive player of the year because he sent the sack record.

[Mark]

That'll. They'll be in camp, the Rams, you

[Joe]

know, it's Stafford's last season. The quarterbacks.

[Pat]

That's true.

[Joe]

They want to win it. Well, it is an official. But it is.

[Pat]

And how about this field Yates? That was from Adam Schefter, by the way. I don't know if I mentioned that field Yates has said the Rams first round pick since 2016. It's almost like the Star Tribune box scores for 2016. The drafted Jared Goff, number one overall, 17, none. 18, none. They only had a 2024 first round pick, which was Jared Verse. And they just drafted Ty Simpson this year. They haven't had a first round pick since 2016, basically. But watch them go win another Super Bowl.

[Joe]

They're trying for it, that's for sure. Anyway, there you go.

[Mark]

Who's the new GM of the Vikings?

[Joe]

I'm very upset because there's two young executives in Seattle and we hired the other one, my guy from Fulda, Trent Kirschner. I don't think got an interview, but.

[Pat]

Oh, that's true.

[Joe]

But I'm some guy from Seattle and they've won A lot. So you take a guy from there, you hope it works out. Right.

[Mark]

And then the new coach of the Magic is a Cretan kid, Sweeney, good buddy of mine. I don't know Sweeney. I don't. I don't think I ever met him.

[Joe]

Played with Maurer and Steve sir was the. And him were the backcourt, and they were shooting 40 threes a game before anybody else was.

[Mark]

They were. So he graduated from Cretan, I think, in 84. 1984, I think.

[Joe]

He's a year younger than Joe, I thought.

[Mark]

I'm trying to think what my kids I used to have. Were in school at that time. They have. They had to be classmates of this guy.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Mark]

No, no, no, no, no. 84 was before any kid I used to have went there. Yeah. The first kid that went there was

[Joe]

88, Andy, the tallest general manager. The tallest team manager in the history of championship.

[Mark]

90 and 91.

[Joe]

90. 91 with Arvesta. Yep. Arvesta. Yeah. They were really. I think they got beaten the state semis by Anoka or something.

[Mark]

But I told you. The great Arvesta. Who was the coach? Horizon.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Mark]

Glenn Horizon.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Mark]

And Avesta was the team. Arvesta was the team. And when they were in a huddle, no one could touch Ariza or.

[Joe]

You couldn't put your shoulders soldiers.

[Mark]

You couldn't put your hand on his shoulder to listen in because you. So one time, the tallest manager was telling me Arvesta was just leaning all over Len, and Len was about to turn around and get angry, and he saw I was Arvesta, and he just turned around and kept talking.

[Joe]

Although nobody could. Top rookie's land story. Which is.

[Mark]

Oh, that's the best.

[Joe]

Which is the double pump.

[Mark]

No, no, no. The kid who leaves on the last day.

[Joe]

See you next fall, first day back. Clothesline.

[Mark]

What was that for, Mr. Horizon, from last year when you left school?

[Joe]

I. I knew Lenny a little bit. Not. Not great, but he's a great character, I guess. It had a tremendous career there.

[Mark]

Oh, God, yes.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Gumpatitis.

[Joe]

Yes. But, yeah, that was.

[Pat]

See you next fall, Lenny.

[Mark]

And they're. Yeah. Came out the door way down there, and then he was at the other door.

[Joe]

Oh, man.

[Mark]

What do we got? We got White Sox in town.

[Pat]

They're good, by the way.

[Mark]

They're playing well.

[Joe]

Although the Japanese guy that was hitting all the home runs, he got hurt, right? Yeah, he got it. Something's wrong with him. He popped a hammy or something. He's out for six weeks. Oh, no.

[Mark]

So.

[Joe]

But yeah, they got all these young guys here. Joe, here's my deal with this team. The Fighting Twins. You gave up last August. August 1st. You gave up. You're rebuilding. So why do we have all these 32 year olds? Why don't we have some 23 year olds who are failing miserably but might get better?

[Pat]

And I love how we just said Dale was Simeon, Woods, Richardson.

[Joe]

Yes. And now we're. And then since he got, since they got rid of him, they've. Three more pitchers have gotten hurt and they said. I saw Nightingale's piece today. Says they thought they were hoping to get him back. Well. What?

[Pat]

Well then why'd you get rid of him?

[Joe]

Yeah, it's like we, we have to add somebody to our bullpen whose arm is fresh. So take somebody else.

[Pat]

I, I, I, When I saw that, I. Granted he hasn't been pitching well, but.

[Joe]

What?

[Pat]

You're just giving up on him?

[Joe]

What? What?

[Pat]

He's 20. What, 4 5.

[Joe]

4 25.

[Pat]

Because we got to get another.

[Mark]

Just let them go.

[Pat]

They put him on waivers.

[Joe]

I don't know how many claims.

[Pat]

I don't, I haven't looked.

[Joe]

He's gotten claimed, but I would assume too. But if he's not, if he didn't get claimed, he'll be back here in the rotation because they lost another starter.

[Pat]

It's just, it's mind boggling.

[Joe]

Too many. You know, the baseball should ban. You know what? They should be banned. Don't, don't worry about drugs. MRI machines. You shouldn't be able to lie.

[Pat]

That's right. Get them out of here.

[Joe]

You shouldn't be able to send them to for an mri. Unless you can see bone, the skin, then you can go.

[Mark]

I bet some teams have their own MRI machines.

[Joe]

They all have them at the ballpark now.

[Mark]

Really?

[Joe]

Yeah, they got them.

[Mark]

Well then you're going to find something and you'll give it a name.

[Joe]

Yes. Right.

[Mark]

Bilateral leg weakness.

[Joe]

Yes, that was very bad.

[Pat]

This MRI machine brought to you by.

[Joe]

I'm very worried about the Bucks. Buxton's. That were back to three years ago where he can't play any outfield. But once he. What, 12 in the last 13 games he's been a DH or something.

[Pat]

Yeah. And he. Because I know he didn't even run into the wall. Was that in Chicago?

[Joe]

It's a hip, I think. Oh, that's not the hip problem. So.

[Mark]

Are you kidding me?

[Pat]

We got to give more at bats to James Altman?

[Joe]

Yes, we do.

[Mark]

The appropriately named James Outman.

[Joe]

And he'll be good. And in the seat of summer, he provides a little air conditioning. You know, if you're sitting behind you sitting in those expensive seats back there, you know. Oh, that breeze feels nice. Thank you, James. Because I had fun writing a Target Field piece for Sunday, though. I wrote about the 20th anniversary of when it was approved and you know, Sid glowering up there in the

[Mark]

loft

[Joe]

of the State Capitol till 4am When Dean Johnson finally.

[Mark]

He's a young man. You wrote he was only 86.

[Joe]

85, yeah, 86. And he was up there glowering at poor Dean, who's a great guy. Dean. Dean's still with us. I looked it up. Dean. I didn't. I thought he was still with us. He's still with us.

[Pat]

I can't believe that was 20 years ago already that they approved. Yeah, my goodness.

[Joe]

It took took a while to build a damn place, right? They didn't open until 2010. It's a fine ballpark being polluted right now with a very bad baseball team. But the funny thing is, in, in your favorite ballpark, the Dome, the last decade, they won six division titles, didn't they? Yes, five or six division titles. And then they went in. There were great in 2010 and 2019, the Bamba squad. That was fun. But it's basically been a 15 year slump in there.

[Mark]

So this whole four major sports here, we've done nothing. Carolina and Vegas are fighting for cups that they've previously won.

[Joe]

Yes. Vegas is the. I think Vegas is this. Vegas. Third final.

[Pat]

Third and nine years.

[Joe]

Third and. Well, they were. That's funny though. Nine years ago, the NHL was still so hard up for money that they, they said, if you give us 600 million or whatever it was, we'll let you fleece every team for some of their best careers. And that would never happen on expansion again. So.

[Mark]

But in Vegas, you can have a parade. There's a place to have a parade in Vegas. In Raleigh. It's a parking lot. Well, the arena is out on the freeway.

[Joe]

Oh, really?

[Mark]

And there's nothing there.

[Pat]

We'll go to the strip mall, have it there kind of a deal.

[Mark]

Vegas, you can get showgirls, animal acts.

[Joe]

That's where they had it newer. When the Devils wanted, they basically, they went around. They went around the parking lot. And Easter, you know, they went, hey,

[Mark]

New York, you can go down Broadway, Minnesota. When they won the World Series, it went up the Capital Long Range.

[Joe]

The Rangers, it's amazing how seldom they've won it considering that they were one of the original six. When did they win it? When did Messier was there, right.

[Pat]

96 wasn't.

[Mark]

It was in the 90s then.

[Joe]

They wanted one in the 80s then too, right? Yeah, I think they wanted one for Messier.

[Mark]

So when it was the original six, who was always the dog? The Rangers for the Blackhawks. Blackhawks won it in 62.

[Joe]

Yes. The Blackhawks, I think had been down for quite a while. I can't really remember who was. Who stunk. Obviously the Leafs had their turn of. The Leafs were powerful and then they were terrible. So I can't really remember. I didn't follow it too closely and fold it, you know, because I don't think. I don't know if the Star Tribune even ran the standings back then, you

[Mark]

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[Pat]

I misspoke. The Rangers beat the Vancouver Canucks in 1994 to end a 54 year championship drought.

[Mark]

Wasn't Gretzky with him in 94?

[Pat]

Yes, Gretzky and Messier.

[Joe]

Yeah, Messier was back with them.

[Pat]

Yeah, Messier was the captain of that team.

[Joe]

And Gretzky they brought in for the end there. Right? How long was he with the Rangers? A couple of years.

[Mark]

A couple years.

[Joe]

He wasn't the real Gretzky then, though, was he?

[Mark]

He's still pretty good.

[Pat]

He was. By the way, he's really good on tv. I like Mark Messier on. On tv. I think he's really good. You want the roster? Is that what we're looking for here?

[Mark]

I'm not.

[Pat]

Oh, okay.

[Joe]

Yeah, I'll give it to us, anyway. What the hell.

[Pat]

Why not? Yeah.

[Joe]

Mess.

[Pat]

Or what's his name? Wayne Gretzky. They call him the Great One Joe.

[Joe]

Yes, they did.

[Pat]

My computer just froze.

[Joe]

Everybody really was creative with that nickname.

[Pat]

He played for the Rangers. Oh, my God. He's got a long Wikipedia page. I'll just put it that way. 1994.

[Mark]

And what is it you're looking for?

[Pat]

How long he played with. Wasn't the.

[Mark]

I think he may have played two years for the Rangers.

[Pat]

Oh, okay.

[Joe]

I'm guessing he made hockey in la, though. Yeah, the. When he showed up out there, Holly la finally figured out that hockey existed.

[Mark]

Yeah. What was Jack Kent Cook's line? He thought all the Canadians moved to LA cause they didn't like hockey.

[Joe]

No, he said I. He said I wanted the franchise because they told me 300,000 Canadians lived out there. Said I didn't know they were the 300,000 who didn't like hockey. All right.

[Pat]

We butchered this. So here's the timeline for the Great One. Obviously started with Edmonton. Went to the Kings in 89, 90. Did not go to the Rangers till 96. 97.

[Joe]

So he wasn't on the.

[Pat]

And he was. So he was not on the 94 team. He was still with the King in the end.

[Joe]

Was when he.

[Mark]

So how many cups did he win with the King?

[Pat]

I don't think they won one.

[Joe]

They got to the finals. They didn't win, though.

[Pat]

But he was with the Rangers from. He was with St. Louis. 95, 96. He was traded from the King and then he went to the Rangers.

[Joe]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Pat]

I do remember him. He only played 18 games there, and

[Joe]

then he played stretch run. They probably made him one of those trade deadlines.

[Pat]

And then he played his final three years with the Rangers from 96 till 99 when he called it a career. So there you go.

[Joe]

He didn't. The Kings made the finals and that. That was a big deal out there because they finally discovered hockey.

[Pat]

He had 92 goals in 1981-82 season. He's pretty good.

[Mark]

He could do stuff. But, you know, my prediction is five years from now, Quinn Hughes, the Quinn Hughes of today, five years from now, will be an average player.

[Joe]

Really?

[Mark]

I think they're getting that. That much better.

[Joe]

You know what?

[Mark]

He owns it right now, but there's. There's kids watching that. And they're inventing new ways to keep control of the puck. They're inventing new ways to bring the puck into the offensive zone. They're doing. They're. They're starting to. They're. They're getting better.

[Joe]

You know what's amazing? Women's eye. That. I mean, they didn't let them. Basically. They didn't start in this state till the mid-90s. And you'd go to a game and the goalie would. They'd shoot the puck and the gobble. The puck would go sliding through the goalie's legs and she'd be looking down and see what happened.

[Mark]

And remember what they called the game?

[Joe]

Well, yeah, Ringette. Ringette.

[Mark]

Yeah, they called it Ringette. And ET is meaning something smaller.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Was a bad name like kitchenette. You know, that's a small table.

[Joe]

It's. They're, you know, they're watchable now. So it's.

[Mark]

Well, aren't the Frost two time Stanley cup champions?

[Joe]

We got beat. Oh, we got beat in the first round by somebody. I think. I think they've already. They've added two teams for this year and I think they're adding two or three for next year, though. But the guy it originally started, the guy who owns the Dodgers and now the Chargers too, right? Who has. He. But he owns the Dodgers, not the Chargers. He owns the, The Clippers. I think he bought.

[Mark]

Were you the guy telling me that the guy who owns the Carolina Hurricanes is cheap?

[Joe]

Yes. Yeah, he's. He's, you know, like they, when they're. When they go to a hotel, the staff that's with them has to check out at noon so they don't have to pay for the, like the late checkout at four in the afternoon or something.

[Mark]

But they're not, they're still. They're not traveling by bus.

[Joe]

No, no, no. They got their plane. But he's. There's a bunch of things he doesn't do that everybody else.

[Mark]

Well, maybe, maybe he's wise. He's prudent.

[Joe]

Well, he just bought. He owns a. He owns an NBA team too. I can't remember which one though. But he, I think he. Or he's just bought an NBA team or something. There's some guys that have more money than they need. You know, Joe, if you can own more than one major sport franchise, you got too much money. Wouldn't you say.

[Pat]

Wouldn't you say Tom Dundon is the guy you're thinking of?

[Joe]

Yes. What else does he own?

[Pat]

He owns the Portland Trailblazers.

[Joe]

That's right. Yeah, they do a lot.

[Mark]

I thought that Nike people owned that.

[Joe]

No.

[Mark]

Well, Phil Knight owned it. My thoughts.

[Joe]

No, he owned Seattle.

[Pat]

Did you see the fact that.

[Joe]

No, he. His Partner Paul, the guy who died.

[Mark]

Paul Allen.

[Joe]

Paul Allen, the guy who died, owned

[Pat]

Portland, and they're selling the. The family is now selling the Seahawks for somewhere around 10 billion, and they're giving it all the way to charity.

[Joe]

Really?

[Pat]

That was his dying wish.

[Mark]

Holy mackerel.

[Pat]

Hi, my name's Charity.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Mark]

Well, if you want to make money in this country, you got to have something to sell. Gotta have a business to sell.

[Joe]

Yes, yes, yes. We don't have to have a. And it's not a newspaper.

[Mark]

No, no, because the guys who already bought stuff buy the newspaper and they strip it bare. Make as much money as possible, and then just let that go.

[Joe]

And for the most part, yeah. I wouldn't say our guy Glenn did that because he didn't have anything to strip bare, but.

[Mark]

Well, your guy Glenn saved it. Baby can do better than a four piece. Page four.

[Joe]

That. But he's not. I don't think he's making the decisions anymore.

[Mark]

Well, it must be making money. He's not going to keep it if it's not making money.

[Joe]

Hold on. What, What. What's the. How does the scoreboard look today?

[Mark]

I can give you.

[Joe]

What do you need? I can give us some scores. Give me those baseball scores. Yes.

[Mark]

Let me find.

[Joe]

There might be some in there because it was Sunday afternoon. I bet you got some scores.

[Mark]

Baseball. I can. Well, we got a lot of scores.

[Joe]

Yeah, right.

[Mark]

Did you want Arizona at Seattle?

[Joe]

That's late.

[Mark]

That's late. How about Yankees at the Athletics?

[Joe]

That's late.

[Mark]

That one was late. San Francisco at Colorado. Oh, nuts. That one was late. Philly at the Dodgers?

[Joe]

That's late.

[Mark]

The Cubs and the Cardinals on last night. That.

[Joe]

That.

[Mark]

That was late. Yeah, that was late.

[Joe]

Say, that's pretty good, though. Like seven or eight of them.

[Mark]

There's a score in there, a 9 to 3. Pittsburgh over the Twins, 2 to. Not 2 to nothing. Milwaukee over Houston, and then you get Arizona and Seattle. That one.

[Joe]

All the golf scores.

[Mark]

Look, there aren't any.

[Joe]

Do we have any? Down 10.

[Mark]

Oh, here you got one. Here you got one. Eric Cole was 12 under through 16, by the way.

[Joe]

He doesn't win.

[Mark]

He didn't win it. Russell Henley wanted.

[Joe]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. I think. I think our guy who does the scoreboard putting in the Golf scores after 16 holes is pranking everybody.

[Mark]

Yesterday, Russell Henley, you got him in the score sheet here. He was 10 under 316. Yeah.

[Joe]

He's not. Is he the guy that caught him? Yeah.

[Mark]

Henley caught the whole field and won the thing and then he had, you

[Joe]

know what they renamed all these tournaments. I couldn't figure out which one this was.

[Mark]

Was Eric Van Ruin. Was he on the championship team?

[Joe]

Yes, he was.

[Mark]

That was on this day. They won the title in 2002. That can't be.

[Joe]

No, wait. No, no, he wasn't their big star was gm what day? It was a foreign guy. That was their big star.

[Mark]

2002, they won the NCAA National.

[Joe]

Golf was before Van Ru. Van was a very good player on a team that went to the national tournament. I think.

[Mark]

If you want to be a golfer in college, why in God's name would you go to Minnesota?

[Joe]

Well, that's why they've only won one child.

[Mark]

Joe mean, why don't you go where

[Pat]

they have summer where you can play

[Mark]

where you can actually play.

[Joe]

I think our guy in 2002 and I can't remember his name because my memory.

[Mark]

Did he get a. Did he get end up with a PGA career?

[Joe]

He didn't really have a career. He played pro.

[Pat]

But I know a young man who decided to go out for golf this year. One of Will's buddies, an eighth grader. The number one reason why he decided to go out for golf this year was you get out of school early every day. So I saw his dad, I said, hey, he's going out for golf. He says, wants to get out of school early every day. I thought, that's my man right there.

[Joe]

That's good right there. That's the way to do version. I'm proud of you.

[Mark]

Oh, we start the cup at Carolina. I thought it was Vegas for some reason. We start tomorrow night.

[Pat]

Vegas was like. Wasn't Vegas a seventh seed or an eighth seed?

[Joe]

Yeah, Gophers Golf 2002. I gotta remember that guy's name. He's a hell of a player. Nice guy too. He was a furner, I think.

[Mark]

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[Pat]

Is it Justin Smith?

[Mark]

No.

[Pat]

I have the list right here. Pat, if you're looking for.

[Joe]

It's not the raw. That's not the team I was thinking.

[Pat]

Matt Anderson, Simon Nash, David Morgan, Wilhelm Shaman. Were your. Were your notable Gopher scores on that 2002 team?

[Joe]

Go. Dang it.

[Pat]

God bless it.

[Mark]

It's okay.

[Joe]

I have almost.

[Mark]

Was that their only title in golf?

[Joe]

Ah, yes.

[Pat]

They finished first. Georgia Tech was second. Clemson and Texas tied for third. And then Augusta State, James McLean.

[Joe]

There we go. 1998 was the champion. He was an Aussie, I believe.

[Mark]

Well, individual champ.

[Joe]

Individual.

[Mark]

Was he on the 2002 team?

[Joe]

He was gone by then. He was gone by that night.

[Pat]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

Yes. Good.

[Mark]

Guys, now that you have a new knee.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Mark]

Why don't you take the game up again? I think.

[Joe]

I don't know if I could hit it over my pool in the backyard right now. I gotta say though, the neighbor kids are very resolute. Yesterday, raining, lousy weather.

[Mark]

Yep.

[Joe]

They were in that pool twice or morning. And after morning and late afternoon, I couldn't believe they were back and you

[Mark]

just stood there and tore up five dollar bills heating it.

[Joe]

Right? That's right. That's okay. It's.

[Mark]

Are they now. They're just. They just come and go at will now, don't they?

[Joe]

Well, I gave them a lifetime. Patches, little laminated things that they could. All they got to do is show

[Mark]

it to Pat's pool.

[Joe]

Yeah. Right. Yes. And if I happen to pop my head out, Olivia will ask me if I have any treats.

[Mark]

Oh, you gotta have treats.

[Pat]

Oh, gotta have treats.

[Joe]

Yes. So I.

[Mark]

Are they old enough to swim by themselves?

[Joe]

Well, mom and mom or Dad's always.

[Mark]

Oh, okay.

[Joe]

But. But they've seven and five or something. And then they got a baby, too. But the babies.

[Mark]

But you don't. There's no safety problems. It's just.

[Joe]

No, no. There's no diving board or anything like that. They're. They're.

[Mark]

They're.

[Joe]

I'm very confident that things will work out well.

[Mark]

Just show mom and dad are there.

[Joe]

Yeah, I went to a.

[Mark]

Otherwise, get a front end loader and fill that sucker.

[Joe]

I went to a graduation party for Kevin Seifert's daughter from Minnetaka yesterday. She graduated already. She was having it with her best buddy, who she'd known since 4. They were at the. The guy's house. Nice place, right down some backwater from Silver Lake, which is not exactly silver anymore, but across the rise is Christmas Lake Lake, which. Oh boy, you can smell the money from there. But the Tom Pelissero showed up. Thomas now, you know, started here basically for our website and is now a national scoop monster. For which outlet is he?

[Pat]

Well, he's NFL Network, but NFL Network got purchased by espn.

[Joe]

But he's one of the scoop monsters. But he has two cutest little daughters you ever saw. 12 and 9 and they're both in dance. I said, your days as a scoot monster are over because when they have a dance event, your daughters will be in the third dance and then the 42nd. Right.

[Mark]

I told you my story.

[Joe]

I told you. I told him your story.

[Mark]

Yes, I went to the pool and yacht club and sat at the bar and the guy said, dance recital. I said, yep, because there were the

[Joe]

place right next door.

[Mark]

I was at Sibley High School, which wasn't far away, but they were number two. And I thought, oh boy, we're getting out of here early. And then number 15.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Oh, now I had a little incident yesterday. I'm a little embarrassed about it. Couple of granddaughters were in their dance recital and I was happening to. I played golf.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Mark]

And I came in and I. A friend of mine was in the. In there and he was having lunch and there's a lot of little kids at the table. And he said, yeah, this is our post. We're having our post dance recital brunch. And I said, where was the dance recital? And he said. And he said it. The same place that my kids were at. I said, I didn't make it.

[Joe]

Yes, I had a very important dance.

[Mark]

I couldn't make it yesterday.

[Joe]

That very important.

[Pat]

Did you. Did you hear about that when you returned?

[Mark]

No. For some reason I'm not in trouble. I don't.

[Pat]

You were let off the hook.

[Joe]

I don't know why they really care if grandpa.

[Mark]

No, they would have known anyway.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Number two and 15.

[Joe]

If that's the only thing worse than dance recital is swimming. If you got to get your those

[Mark]

things last, oh, they can go all day.

[Pat]

I've heard wrestling tournaments for the youth are pretty bad too.

[Joe]

That's pretty probably true. I think it all is. I think. I think youth sports.

[Pat]

But at least for us with baseball, you know when the games are so you can run and grab groceries or go do something, you know, you got

[Joe]

Some time we were at East Ridge. Friday or Saturday. Saturday. Friday or Saturday. Field 17. Oh, boy, they got quite the complex out there.

[Pat]

We're going there this weekend. 17.

[Joe]

Field 17.

[Mark]

That's another thing about the people who govern the cities, the Marxists. There's not really good athletic fields in the city proper. You get out to the suburbs, there's some gorgeous stuff. Oh, yeah, they got lights and everything.

[Joe]

Yes. Yeah, it is. The city is. City doesn't quite have the dough to.

[Mark]

Well, they got the dough. They just don't spend it on stuff that you might spend it on. Yeah, like streets, lights at work.

[Pat]

I kind of like the challenge of going down Barrie, though. That's kind of fun.

[Joe]

When do we elect a governor? Every four years.

[Mark]

That's right, Pat. We got one come up in November.

[Joe]

I'll be 85 the next time. Probably could get elected. But if I do, the campaign is three years. No street repairs, no road repairs. We'll be out of debt. We'll get all our money back. And I'll have eight old guys with trucks filled with tar in the back. And if there's a big hole, we'll call Buster and say, hey, Buster, get your ass over there.

[Pat]

Get on over there.

[Joe]

Fill it up. Pat that thing in there. And we'll wait. And then like every four years, we'll have a street repair. They're doing stuff that's ridiculous.

[Pat]

I do like how when we shut down 280, now we got University. Single lane, too. That's a nice touch.

[Mark]

I couldn't get here today.

[Pat]

No, I had a tough time, too, because.

[Mark]

Because the way I come, they don't warn you until I took the turn to come here. And then I said, no, you can't. So I had to go through the water tower neighborhood over here, which is water tower, and get myself back on University Avenue and then come down east on University Avenue.

[Joe]

Right. You know, going home when I go. Go home. From Minneapolis, we got the 394. Right. Then we had the same lane where you would be open times. And for no apparent reason, we are now fixing that whole thing. And the backup to get through the tunnel is. Yeah, you could throw a rock from here and hit the damn thing. Could you? Racy system. We'd just. We'd be thrown down a little, but we'd.

[Mark]

Can you drive through Worth park to get home?

[Joe]

Yeah, I do it quite often.

[Mark]

You can do it.

[Joe]

I do it. I take Plymouth a lot.

[Mark]

Okay.

[Joe]

I hate to be racial about this, but. Yeah, a lot of those weenies in the white in the suburbs out there. They don't drive down Plymouth. I drive down Plymouth with the top down, wave to the guys, offer rides. We're moving pretty good. Yeah. Giving a guy a ride. What the hell? We're breezing down Plymouth.

[Mark]

That Plymouth cut through Worth Park.

[Joe]

Well, to get over from my house, we. You take Golden Valley Road and then you turn and you go through. You go halfway through Worth park and take a left onto Plymouth.

[Mark]

I'll be damned.

[Joe]

And it's. And then when you take. You know what I do? I take Plymouth and then I come on the river Road.

[Mark]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Over there. And get to see a little scenery. And once in a while, they'll have it roadblocked from two days earlier. Not ever remove the roadblocks. But too many people use that road. And if you got. If you want to have a. A parade of seven people, they can call the city and they close down that road.

[Mark]

For the river Road on St. Paul's side is closed for an illness about every.

[Joe]

Yes, right.

[Mark]

About every weekend.

[Joe]

Yeah. Right it is.

[Mark]

Who are you raising money for this week?

[Joe]

I. I say. Okay, close it for the marathon. Marathon. That's fine. Yeah, but that's it. No, Once.

[Mark]

Once a year.

[Joe]

Good enough. Charity. Yeah, sorry, sorry. I don't want to run into a roadblock. But it's great, you know.

[Mark]

See you next Monday.

[Joe]

Then you get on to Franklin, though. And if you. When you go left, then you go semi left, then you go right, then you go semi right. You got fully right and semi right. Right. And if you get a confused elderly person such as me and doesn't go right away, then that light's changed. Some profanities are uttered from my vehicle because we could have gotten through. We've waited here.

[Mark]

Oh, you.

[Joe]

Mrs. Whatever. Go right. Let's go then. Believable. Yes. Go Twinks. I'm going to the game tonight, and I think we'll see the whole new operation here that's ready be fired up.

[Pat]

Yes, it is. See you later.

[Joe]

Bye.