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Joe
Here we go. And.
Mark
I gotta ask you something.
Joe
I'm ready.
Mark
I spent more time this year than most years watching the NHL playoffs.
Joe
All right.
Mark
And there's something nagging me in the back of my mind that it's probably true of the NBA, too. They're too long.
Joe
Yes.
Mark
When you get to the end, I don't care how well trained these guys are, they've played too many games.
Joe
You can be the best team, which Colorado might have been, and you just run out of steam.
Mark
And I don't know how they're going to fix it because they're greedy and they need the money.
Joe
They're not.
Mark
How are you going to fix this?
Joe
I don't know. You know, the ending.
Mark
Best of five again?
Joe
First couple of rounds, maybe. Yeah, yeah. But you know what you could do is best of five until the finals.
Mark
How about best of five and get this thing over with before June.
Joe
But here's the problem. It's now more than what you're bringing at the gate. Used to be what you bring it at the gate. You now have four TV outlets for hockey and everything. And they want games, man. They're very depressed about the, the, the two short series. Right.
Mark
Because Carolina went 8. 0 in the first two series.
Joe
No, that was bad. They, they, they wanted to get rid of them. I mean, they wanted more games, but then Colorado gets swept. They weren't counting on that. But yeah, you're right. I mean, I don't see how people who go the distance in either one of those sports makes it to the finish line. The hockey is brutal, but if you're one of the seven or eight guys who plays on a basketball team, that's pretty brutal too, you know, so.
Mark
Well, plus, it's the time of year when I'm no longer sitting in the house at night. Forget it. It's too nice out.
Joe
Yeah, that's.
Mark
You've gone too far.
Joe
Yeah.
Mark
Now, I'm not naive. You're never going to go back to the original six being done in mid April. I get that. But you got to come up with something, A showcase the best talent where they're still able to be the best talent and get this thing over before June.
Pat
Does the Olympic break factor in? Is it later than it normally would be?
Mark
Some guys play 125 games.
Joe
This was. I think the Olympic break only added about a week, though. Oh, I think it only had.
Mark
Yeah. But they were gone for days before that week and days after.
Joe
They compacted everything. So. Yeah, it's brutal. It's. You know, it, it's all. Baseball is doing the same thing, Joe. We. Now they're not playing till November.
Mark
Damn near.
Joe
It's crazy.
Mark
I don't like it. It. I don't like it. I disagree.
Joe
Yeah, let's get the.
Mark
I don't know what the answer is.
Joe
I was saying. I was. I was laying on the couch watching a ball game the other day and said, you know what? I liked when the American League played the National League in the World Series and the hell with the rest of it.
Mark
Okay, what about this? What about eliminating one round of the playoffs? What about eliminating four teams?
Joe
Oh, they are doing that because.
Mark
Well, how many teams are in it now? 16.
Joe
Maintain baseball.
Mark
No, in hockey.
Joe
Hockey. 16.
Mark
Let's go to 12.
Joe
Yeah.
Mark
Makes the regular season that much more crucial.
Joe
They want everybody to. With their, with their new point system with. When you get. When you can lose 15 games and get a point for them.
Mark
That's euphoria.
Joe
Everything's so jammed up. They want everybody to think they have a chance with two weeks to go in the season. That's not going to happen, I don't think. Although tickets, you know what the Wilds ticket selling for instance. And they're almost a typical market is they. If they were eliminated with a month ago the season, you know what the impact of having attendance? About 5% people still go to the game.
Mark
So.
Joe
Yeah, I agree with you. It's just endless. And of course the other thing is finding it now. Where are we hiding? I go to this little deal and. Yeah, that is the game you play.
Pat
Where the hell is the game?
Mark
Well, no, that wasn't that hard. It's in the grid every day.
Joe
Well, hockey, basketball is scattered around.
Mark
Some of the basketball was on prime, only I couldn't get it because I couldn't figure it out.
Joe
Yesterday, the twins, which he didn't have to watch a lot of it, but they had some announcer that wasn't affiliated with either. I. I don't know.
Pat
I only listened.
Joe
We were driving around some strange announcers. I. The other team had their regular ones, but the Twinks had two guys I never heard before. Was it they.
Pat
They weren't on national tv, were they?
Joe
I don't know. Well, if they were, they were embarrassing us again.
Pat
Oh, so how about the fact that we got swept and we didn't even face the best pitcher in baseball.
Joe
Yeah, yeah. Skins. Yeah, we didn't. They were all angry when they didn't have no pitch.
Mark
Wasn't his turn.
Joe
Which was unfortunate because then the girlfriend wasn't in the stands to have some camera work.
Pat
I was there last year for the Skeens game at Target Field and it was the biggest crowd they had all year. And it was strictly because Livy Dunn posted about it on social media.
Joe
Thousand young girls who are gymnasts went to see Libby Dunn.
Pat
Yep, 100%.
Mark
What did she make it? She would stand up and wave and we have to cite her being in the crowd.
Pat
They did.
Mark
They.
Pat
They did post about her on the
Joe
scoreboard and got autographs and stuff, right?
Pat
I can't blame them either.
Joe
Oh, she can't blame attractive lass, that's for sure.
Pat
She does like the attention.
Mark
Anyway, it's just.
Joe
That's because she's an influencer.
Mark
Yeah, it just. It just gets to you. I mean this. We're not even starting till tomorrow night. It's June 17th is the last possible day. It's too long. Sorry. It's just too long.
Joe
It's too much. It's. It should be over before the US Open. Shouldn't.
Mark
Thank you.
Pat
How about this? I got a better idea. What they should have done is pushed her back even further. You could have had game seven on the White House lawn right before the UFC fight.
Joe
Develop it.
Mark
Be classier than a UFC fight.
Joe
I can't believe the monster. I didn't realize we were building that on the White House.
Mark
Oh yeah.
Joe
Isn't there.
Mark
Why does he put an old stove out there and a Chevy up on blocks?
Joe
Oh, man alive. I got to. I gotta, I gotta admit, the game of flaws. The bride has defeated me because I put about a 10 minute limit when I get home from something I try to trump.
Mark
I try to trump
Joe
what, what, what the dumbass did today.
Mark
Right? I get the same thing.
Joe
Ten minutes is the limit. I can't, I can't go any longer.
Mark
I've tried a 10pm cut off.
Joe
That's a good idea.
Pat
He starts getting home at 9:50.
Mark
No. And that gets violated. I said, hey, hey, hey. It's the cutoff. It's.
Joe
Yes, yes. Unfortunately, they aren't getting up at 2am to see what he's posting. And then they could start all over again right in the middle of the night. So that would be good. God, it's, it's crazy, man. It's the craziest. And then you got all these Trump hating web things. Pod who are making themselves Midas and these other people and they're, you know, he had one, you can't believe this about Trump the other day. So I happened to click on it and it was. By his standards, it was zero. What are you talking about? Anyway, yeah, it's, it's, it's tough around there, man. It's, it's, it's, it's bad. So anyhow, you were talking about Mr. Speech. Unbelievable when you think about that.
Mark
When I saw his boat.
Joe
Yeah. On White Beer.
Mark
I was a distance.
Joe
Right.
Mark
I thought it was a marker buoy for a reef.
Joe
How do you do that?
Mark
It was that small.
Joe
What was now?
Mark
Well, it was designed to. He tumbled his way across the ocean. Yeah, it was designed to bob and tumble.
Joe
Gotta have a strong tummy still.
Mark
Yeah.
Joe
What'd we eat?
Mark
Yeah, you can get it.
Joe
How long would it take him?
Mark
Well, he left on this day and he got there and what did it say? July 24th.
Joe
Holy cow. God Almighty. So seven weeks basically, huh? Seven, eight weeks.
Mark
He built the boat himself in his garage.
Joe
He didn't have a Mrs. Piece in there?
Mark
Yes, I believe he did.
Joe
Boy, she must be. She wanted to get rid of him or. She was very tolerant, one of the two.
Mark
Well, I think she was there to greet him at the end and all that good stuff. Well, here it is right here. He left today. So he left June 1, 1979. He got there July 24.
Joe
Wow.
Mark
1979.
Joe
Wow. So he didn't have a bigger boat following him or anything? No, did he? Nothing.
Mark
Almost two months. Wow. As I understand it, he. He kind of bobbed and like a bobber going across the ocean.
Joe
Where did he. Where did he finally land? Where?
Mark
Foul mouth Falmouth.
Joe
Okay.
Mark
And it was a hell of a. He's. You know what? He's not celebrating enough, is he?
Joe
No, he's not. He's a Minnesota hero. And I don't think it made him wealthy. He did it. He just kept living his blue collar light.
Mark
Yeah, yeah, he. Well, I think he was a 3M guy, wasn't he? I don't know. I have to look it up.
Joe
But he had to take a little extra vacation because.
Mark
Yeah.
Joe
What's your excuse, Mr. Speeds? Well, I'm.
Mark
I'm in the middle of the ocean.
Joe
I'm jumping in a ten foot potent. Going across the Atlantic. And they said, well, if you get back, we'll still have your job.
Mark
I'm sure he had pleasant days where he could, oh sure, sail and actually like a boat, seagulls were following them,
Joe
hoping they threw him.
Mark
But you've seen videos of. Of stormy oceans. Yes, well, he had. I wonder how many days he went backwards.
Joe
Yes. That's the thing with the wind.
Pat
How do you know? Yeah, how do you know if you're going?
Mark
Especially if you're upside down.
Joe
That's right. God almighty. It's unbelievable.
Pat
Yeah.
Joe
For a guy who. Whose adventure was standing on a duck boat and going and picking up ducks with the old man, that was not something. Speaking of that, Pat, how about this much water?
Pat
We're having the Lyman's in studio again on Wednesday and I had played their first visit with us on Friday is the best of. And the best part for me was you joined because it must have been a Friday, obviously. And you joined after that. And Joe began the conversation by asking you how would the game of flaws work, traveling the world, including cruises and whatnot?
Mark
Because these linemans must like each other.
Joe
They must really.
Mark
They really do.
Pat
Pat's answer was, I don't think that would work out
Mark
today.
Joe
However, I was driving through the neighborhood, cutting over to the road to come over here. And there was a fella walking with a big gas station with a gas can.
Mark
One of those red, big, they're called gas cans.
Joe
Yeah.
Mark
Yeah.
Joe
But it was not an old fashioned one. A plastic, you know, newer one. Yeah. And so I had the top down. I pulled up and I said, would you like a ride somewhere?
Mark
Oh, God.
Joe
And, and it was about four or five blocks, you know, over the other side of the highway. 100 actually. And he says, did ever. Did anyone ever tell you you look like Patrick Ricey? I said, that jackass.
Mark
That's what I would have said. I said, no, no,
Joe
no. That jackass.
Mark
Did it last? Did you convince it?
Joe
Yeah, but I, I, he was very grateful.
Mark
Did you give him a ride?
Joe
Yeah.
Mark
Oh, good.
Joe
Yeah. Cuz he, he had five blocks to walk. Five, six blocks.
Mark
Sure.
Pat
I'm headed to Woodbury.
Joe
Yeah, he was very grateful even before he knew he was with.
Mark
Well, how did he run out? You know, there's no excuse for an adult to run out of gas. Sorry. That's.
Pat
He got all sorts of gauges.
Joe
What was the guy he told, oh, 40.
Mark
Hey, shouldn't run. I'm sorry. He shouldn't have run out of gas.
Joe
Trucks having problems? His trucks having gauge problems? Sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. So, well, maybe, maybe good Ford gas because he doesn't have 30 bucks for 4 gallons. That could be it.
Pat
You know what's not fun is having two kids in travel.
Mark
Baseball.
Joe
Oh, yeah. That only got a tank a day.
Mark
Your gas bill's got to be incredible.
Pat
I've hit my number. Well, put it that way.
Joe
Yesterday, I guess I was a little over a quarter and I was, I felt pretty good because it was only 47, I think, or something like that. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. You know, the funny thing is, even if they get her pumping here, even if they get her going, the boys, the thieves are still going to keep it up there over four bucks as long as they can, right? Yep.
Mark
No, I don't.
Joe
Do you think they would?
Mark
I think it'll take a while to get the system flowing again, but once it does, you watch those prices.
Joe
Oh God. They're diving down. Yeah.
Pat
Just in time for the nation.
Mark
Gas in Chicago. Six bucks a gallon.
Joe
Do we have any idea if we're closer to settle one?
Mark
It changes day to day.
Joe
It changes hour to hour, doesn't it? Yeah.
Mark
You know, so some days he's in a hurry.
Joe
Yeah.
Mark
And other days he's in no hurry.
Joe
And then he's gonna. And then the next day he's just Gonna wipe off the face of the earth.
Mark
I have no idea what he's up to.
Joe
So the, the, the. I really think that the Nation deserved a 250th celebration. Right? That's a big year.
Mark
Right?
Joe
That's a big year.
Mark
It's kind of screwed up from the beginning.
Joe
So everybody come, you know, you know, he should have invited Barack, should have had the tomb standing up there.
Mark
He wasn't going to do that.
Joe
No. So that's what you gotta, you gotta, you gotta be benevolent on the 250. Right.
Mark
He said he's gonna have the guy there who draws bigger crowds than Elvis Presley.
Joe
Him, your president. God, he's a unique individual.
Pat
I think they must have done this to time up the recording of Monday night sports talk. But we've got a bombshell in the NFL, ladies and gentlemen.
Joe
What? What?
Pat
The Cleveland Browns have just traded Myles Garrett to the Los Angeles Rams.
Joe
Wow.
Pat
The Rams are sending. How about this foot ball? They're sending a 2027 first round pick, a 2028 second round pick, a 2029 third round pick, and they're getting superstar youngster Jared Verse in the deal. Wow, that is a bombshell, Joe.
Joe
Jared Runner. Maybe the Rams are gone.
Mark
Is he a runner?
Pat
Defensive end.
Mark
Defensive end.
Joe
But he was hurt some last year, right, Garrett, wasn't he? No. I guess. No.
Pat
He won the defensive player of the year because he sent the sack record.
Mark
That'll. They'll be in camp, the Rams, you
Joe
know, it's Stafford's last season. The quarterbacks.
Pat
That's true.
Joe
They want to win it. Well, it is an official. But it is.
Pat
And how about this field Yates? That was from Adam Schefter, by the way. I don't know if I mentioned that field Yates has said the Rams first round pick since 2016. It's almost like the Star Tribune box scores for 2016. The drafted Jared Goff, number one overall, 17, none. 18, none. They only had a 2024 first round pick, which was Jared Verse. And they just drafted Ty Simpson this year. They haven't had a first round pick since 2016, basically. But watch them go win another Super Bowl.
Joe
They're trying for it, that's for sure. Anyway, there you go.
Mark
Who's the new GM of the Vikings?
Joe
I'm very upset because there's two young executives in Seattle and we hired the other one, my guy from Fulda, Trent Kirschner. I don't think got an interview, but.
Pat
Oh, that's true.
Joe
But I'm some guy from Seattle and they've won A lot. So you take a guy from there, you hope it works out. Right.
Mark
And then the new coach of the Magic is a Cretan kid, Sweeney, good buddy of mine. I don't know Sweeney. I don't. I don't think I ever met him.
Joe
Played with Maurer and Steve sir was the. And him were the backcourt, and they were shooting 40 threes a game before anybody else was.
Mark
They were. So he graduated from Cretan, I think, in 84. 1984, I think.
Joe
He's a year younger than Joe, I thought.
Mark
I'm trying to think what my kids I used to have. Were in school at that time. They have. They had to be classmates of this guy.
Joe
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Mark
No, no, no, no, no. 84 was before any kid I used to have went there. Yeah. The first kid that went there was
Joe
88, Andy, the tallest general manager. The tallest team manager in the history of championship.
Mark
90 and 91.
Joe
90. 91 with Arvesta. Yep. Arvesta. Yeah. They were really. I think they got beaten the state semis by Anoka or something.
Mark
But I told you. The great Arvesta. Who was the coach? Horizon.
Joe
Yes.
Mark
Glenn Horizon.
Joe
Yes.
Mark
And Avesta was the team. Arvesta was the team. And when they were in a huddle, no one could touch Ariza or.
Joe
You couldn't put your shoulders soldiers.
Mark
You couldn't put your hand on his shoulder to listen in because you. So one time, the tallest manager was telling me Arvesta was just leaning all over Len, and Len was about to turn around and get angry, and he saw I was Arvesta, and he just turned around and kept talking.
Joe
Although nobody could. Top rookie's land story. Which is.
Mark
Oh, that's the best.
Joe
Which is the double pump.
Mark
No, no, no. The kid who leaves on the last day.
Joe
See you next fall, first day back. Clothesline.
Mark
What was that for, Mr. Horizon, from last year when you left school?
Joe
I. I knew Lenny a little bit. Not. Not great, but he's a great character, I guess. It had a tremendous career there.
Mark
Oh, God, yes.
Joe
Yeah.
Mark
Gumpatitis.
Joe
Yes. But, yeah, that was.
Pat
See you next fall, Lenny.
Mark
And they're. Yeah. Came out the door way down there, and then he was at the other door.
Joe
Oh, man.
Mark
What do we got? We got White Sox in town.
Pat
They're good, by the way.
Mark
They're playing well.
Joe
Although the Japanese guy that was hitting all the home runs, he got hurt, right? Yeah, he got it. Something's wrong with him. He popped a hammy or something. He's out for six weeks. Oh, no.
Mark
So.
Joe
But yeah, they got all these young guys here. Joe, here's my deal with this team. The Fighting Twins. You gave up last August. August 1st. You gave up. You're rebuilding. So why do we have all these 32 year olds? Why don't we have some 23 year olds who are failing miserably but might get better?
Pat
And I love how we just said Dale was Simeon, Woods, Richardson.
Joe
Yes. And now we're. And then since he got, since they got rid of him, they've. Three more pitchers have gotten hurt and they said. I saw Nightingale's piece today. Says they thought they were hoping to get him back. Well. What?
Pat
Well then why'd you get rid of him?
Joe
Yeah, it's like we, we have to add somebody to our bullpen whose arm is fresh. So take somebody else.
Pat
I, I, I, When I saw that, I. Granted he hasn't been pitching well, but.
Joe
What?
Pat
You're just giving up on him?
Joe
What? What?
Pat
He's 20. What, 4 5.
Joe
4 25.
Pat
Because we got to get another.
Mark
Just let them go.
Pat
They put him on waivers.
Joe
I don't know how many claims.
Pat
I don't, I haven't looked.
Joe
He's gotten claimed, but I would assume too. But if he's not, if he didn't get claimed, he'll be back here in the rotation because they lost another starter.
Pat
It's just, it's mind boggling.
Joe
Too many. You know, the baseball should ban. You know what? They should be banned. Don't, don't worry about drugs. MRI machines. You shouldn't be able to lie.
Pat
That's right. Get them out of here.
Joe
You shouldn't be able to send them to for an mri. Unless you can see bone, the skin, then you can go.
Mark
I bet some teams have their own MRI machines.
Joe
They all have them at the ballpark now.
Mark
Really?
Joe
Yeah, they got them.
Mark
Well then you're going to find something and you'll give it a name.
Joe
Yes. Right.
Mark
Bilateral leg weakness.
Joe
Yes, that was very bad.
Pat
This MRI machine brought to you by.
Joe
I'm very worried about the Bucks. Buxton's. That were back to three years ago where he can't play any outfield. But once he. What, 12 in the last 13 games he's been a DH or something.
Pat
Yeah. And he. Because I know he didn't even run into the wall. Was that in Chicago?
Joe
It's a hip, I think. Oh, that's not the hip problem. So.
Mark
Are you kidding me?
Pat
We got to give more at bats to James Altman?
Joe
Yes, we do.
Mark
The appropriately named James Outman.
Joe
And he'll be good. And in the seat of summer, he provides a little air conditioning. You know, if you're sitting behind you sitting in those expensive seats back there, you know. Oh, that breeze feels nice. Thank you, James. Because I had fun writing a Target Field piece for Sunday, though. I wrote about the 20th anniversary of when it was approved and you know, Sid glowering up there in the
Mark
loft
Joe
of the State Capitol till 4am When Dean Johnson finally.
Mark
He's a young man. You wrote he was only 86.
Joe
85, yeah, 86. And he was up there glowering at poor Dean, who's a great guy. Dean. Dean's still with us. I looked it up. Dean. I didn't. I thought he was still with us. He's still with us.
Pat
I can't believe that was 20 years ago already that they approved. Yeah, my goodness.
Joe
It took took a while to build a damn place, right? They didn't open until 2010. It's a fine ballpark being polluted right now with a very bad baseball team. But the funny thing is, in, in your favorite ballpark, the Dome, the last decade, they won six division titles, didn't they? Yes, five or six division titles. And then they went in. There were great in 2010 and 2019, the Bamba squad. That was fun. But it's basically been a 15 year slump in there.
Mark
So this whole four major sports here, we've done nothing. Carolina and Vegas are fighting for cups that they've previously won.
Joe
Yes. Vegas is the. I think Vegas is this. Vegas. Third final.
Pat
Third and nine years.
Joe
Third and. Well, they were. That's funny though. Nine years ago, the NHL was still so hard up for money that they, they said, if you give us 600 million or whatever it was, we'll let you fleece every team for some of their best careers. And that would never happen on expansion again. So.
Mark
But in Vegas, you can have a parade. There's a place to have a parade in Vegas. In Raleigh. It's a parking lot. Well, the arena is out on the freeway.
Joe
Oh, really?
Mark
And there's nothing there.
Pat
We'll go to the strip mall, have it there kind of a deal.
Mark
Vegas, you can get showgirls, animal acts.
Joe
That's where they had it newer. When the Devils wanted, they basically, they went around. They went around the parking lot. And Easter, you know, they went, hey,
Mark
New York, you can go down Broadway, Minnesota. When they won the World Series, it went up the Capital Long Range.
Joe
The Rangers, it's amazing how seldom they've won it considering that they were one of the original six. When did they win it? When did Messier was there, right.
Pat
96 wasn't.
Mark
It was in the 90s then.
Joe
They wanted one in the 80s then too, right? Yeah, I think they wanted one for Messier.
Mark
So when it was the original six, who was always the dog? The Rangers for the Blackhawks. Blackhawks won it in 62.
Joe
Yes. The Blackhawks, I think had been down for quite a while. I can't really remember who was. Who stunk. Obviously the Leafs had their turn of. The Leafs were powerful and then they were terrible. So I can't really remember. I didn't follow it too closely and fold it, you know, because I don't think. I don't know if the Star Tribune even ran the standings back then, you
Mark
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Pat
I misspoke. The Rangers beat the Vancouver Canucks in 1994 to end a 54 year championship drought.
Mark
Wasn't Gretzky with him in 94?
Pat
Yes, Gretzky and Messier.
Joe
Yeah, Messier was back with them.
Pat
Yeah, Messier was the captain of that team.
Joe
And Gretzky they brought in for the end there. Right? How long was he with the Rangers? A couple of years.
Mark
A couple years.
Joe
He wasn't the real Gretzky then, though, was he?
Mark
He's still pretty good.
Pat
He was. By the way, he's really good on tv. I like Mark Messier on. On tv. I think he's really good. You want the roster? Is that what we're looking for here?
Mark
I'm not.
Pat
Oh, okay.
Joe
Yeah, I'll give it to us, anyway. What the hell.
Pat
Why not? Yeah.
Joe
Mess.
Pat
Or what's his name? Wayne Gretzky. They call him the Great One Joe.
Joe
Yes, they did.
Pat
My computer just froze.
Joe
Everybody really was creative with that nickname.
Pat
He played for the Rangers. Oh, my God. He's got a long Wikipedia page. I'll just put it that way. 1994.
Mark
And what is it you're looking for?
Pat
How long he played with. Wasn't the.
Mark
I think he may have played two years for the Rangers.
Pat
Oh, okay.
Joe
I'm guessing he made hockey in la, though. Yeah, the. When he showed up out there, Holly la finally figured out that hockey existed.
Mark
Yeah. What was Jack Kent Cook's line? He thought all the Canadians moved to LA cause they didn't like hockey.
Joe
No, he said I. He said I wanted the franchise because they told me 300,000 Canadians lived out there. Said I didn't know they were the 300,000 who didn't like hockey. All right.
Pat
We butchered this. So here's the timeline for the Great One. Obviously started with Edmonton. Went to the Kings in 89, 90. Did not go to the Rangers till 96. 97.
Joe
So he wasn't on the.
Pat
And he was. So he was not on the 94 team. He was still with the King in the end.
Joe
Was when he.
Mark
So how many cups did he win with the King?
Pat
I don't think they won one.
Joe
They got to the finals. They didn't win, though.
Pat
But he was with the Rangers from. He was with St. Louis. 95, 96. He was traded from the King and then he went to the Rangers.
Joe
Yeah, I remember that.
Pat
I do remember him. He only played 18 games there, and
Joe
then he played stretch run. They probably made him one of those trade deadlines.
Pat
And then he played his final three years with the Rangers from 96 till 99 when he called it a career. So there you go.
Joe
He didn't. The Kings made the finals and that. That was a big deal out there because they finally discovered hockey.
Pat
He had 92 goals in 1981-82 season. He's pretty good.
Mark
He could do stuff. But, you know, my prediction is five years from now, Quinn Hughes, the Quinn Hughes of today, five years from now, will be an average player.
Joe
Really?
Mark
I think they're getting that. That much better.
Joe
You know what?
Mark
He owns it right now, but there's. There's kids watching that. And they're inventing new ways to keep control of the puck. They're inventing new ways to bring the puck into the offensive zone. They're doing. They're. They're starting to. They're. They're getting better.
Joe
You know what's amazing? Women's eye. That. I mean, they didn't let them. Basically. They didn't start in this state till the mid-90s. And you'd go to a game and the goalie would. They'd shoot the puck and the gobble. The puck would go sliding through the goalie's legs and she'd be looking down and see what happened.
Mark
And remember what they called the game?
Joe
Well, yeah, Ringette. Ringette.
Mark
Yeah, they called it Ringette. And ET is meaning something smaller.
Joe
Yeah.
Mark
Was a bad name like kitchenette. You know, that's a small table.
Joe
It's. They're, you know, they're watchable now. So it's.
Mark
Well, aren't the Frost two time Stanley cup champions?
Joe
We got beat. Oh, we got beat in the first round by somebody. I think. I think they've already. They've added two teams for this year and I think they're adding two or three for next year, though. But the guy it originally started, the guy who owns the Dodgers and now the Chargers too, right? Who has. He. But he owns the Dodgers, not the Chargers. He owns the, The Clippers. I think he bought.
Mark
Were you the guy telling me that the guy who owns the Carolina Hurricanes is cheap?
Joe
Yes. Yeah, he's. He's, you know, like they, when they're. When they go to a hotel, the staff that's with them has to check out at noon so they don't have to pay for the, like the late checkout at four in the afternoon or something.
Mark
But they're not, they're still. They're not traveling by bus.
Joe
No, no, no. They got their plane. But he's. There's a bunch of things he doesn't do that everybody else.
Mark
Well, maybe, maybe he's wise. He's prudent.
Joe
Well, he just bought. He owns a. He owns an NBA team too. I can't remember which one though. But he, I think he. Or he's just bought an NBA team or something. There's some guys that have more money than they need. You know, Joe, if you can own more than one major sport franchise, you got too much money. Wouldn't you say.
Pat
Wouldn't you say Tom Dundon is the guy you're thinking of?
Joe
Yes. What else does he own?
Pat
He owns the Portland Trailblazers.
Joe
That's right. Yeah, they do a lot.
Mark
I thought that Nike people owned that.
Joe
No.
Mark
Well, Phil Knight owned it. My thoughts.
Joe
No, he owned Seattle.
Pat
Did you see the fact that.
Joe
No, he. His Partner Paul, the guy who died.
Mark
Paul Allen.
Joe
Paul Allen, the guy who died, owned
Pat
Portland, and they're selling the. The family is now selling the Seahawks for somewhere around 10 billion, and they're giving it all the way to charity.
Joe
Really?
Pat
That was his dying wish.
Mark
Holy mackerel.
Pat
Hi, my name's Charity.
Joe
Wow.
Mark
Well, if you want to make money in this country, you got to have something to sell. Gotta have a business to sell.
Joe
Yes, yes, yes. We don't have to have a. And it's not a newspaper.
Mark
No, no, because the guys who already bought stuff buy the newspaper and they strip it bare. Make as much money as possible, and then just let that go.
Joe
And for the most part, yeah. I wouldn't say our guy Glenn did that because he didn't have anything to strip bare, but.
Mark
Well, your guy Glenn saved it. Baby can do better than a four piece. Page four.
Joe
That. But he's not. I don't think he's making the decisions anymore.
Mark
Well, it must be making money. He's not going to keep it if it's not making money.
Joe
Hold on. What, What. What's the. How does the scoreboard look today?
Mark
I can give you.
Joe
What do you need? I can give us some scores. Give me those baseball scores. Yes.
Mark
Let me find.
Joe
There might be some in there because it was Sunday afternoon. I bet you got some scores.
Mark
Baseball. I can. Well, we got a lot of scores.
Joe
Yeah, right.
Mark
Did you want Arizona at Seattle?
Joe
That's late.
Mark
That's late. How about Yankees at the Athletics?
Joe
That's late.
Mark
That one was late. San Francisco at Colorado. Oh, nuts. That one was late. Philly at the Dodgers?
Joe
That's late.
Mark
The Cubs and the Cardinals on last night. That.
Joe
That.
Mark
That was late. Yeah, that was late.
Joe
Say, that's pretty good, though. Like seven or eight of them.
Mark
There's a score in there, a 9 to 3. Pittsburgh over the Twins, 2 to. Not 2 to nothing. Milwaukee over Houston, and then you get Arizona and Seattle. That one.
Joe
All the golf scores.
Mark
Look, there aren't any.
Joe
Do we have any? Down 10.
Mark
Oh, here you got one. Here you got one. Eric Cole was 12 under through 16, by the way.
Joe
He doesn't win.
Mark
He didn't win it. Russell Henley wanted.
Joe
Yes, yes, yes, yes. I think. I think our guy who does the scoreboard putting in the Golf scores after 16 holes is pranking everybody.
Mark
Yesterday, Russell Henley, you got him in the score sheet here. He was 10 under 316. Yeah.
Joe
He's not. Is he the guy that caught him? Yeah.
Mark
Henley caught the whole field and won the thing and then he had, you
Joe
know what they renamed all these tournaments. I couldn't figure out which one this was.
Mark
Was Eric Van Ruin. Was he on the championship team?
Joe
Yes, he was.
Mark
That was on this day. They won the title in 2002. That can't be.
Joe
No, wait. No, no, he wasn't their big star was gm what day? It was a foreign guy. That was their big star.
Mark
2002, they won the NCAA National.
Joe
Golf was before Van Ru. Van was a very good player on a team that went to the national tournament. I think.
Mark
If you want to be a golfer in college, why in God's name would you go to Minnesota?
Joe
Well, that's why they've only won one child.
Mark
Joe mean, why don't you go where
Pat
they have summer where you can play
Mark
where you can actually play.
Joe
I think our guy in 2002 and I can't remember his name because my memory.
Mark
Did he get a. Did he get end up with a PGA career?
Joe
He didn't really have a career. He played pro.
Pat
But I know a young man who decided to go out for golf this year. One of Will's buddies, an eighth grader. The number one reason why he decided to go out for golf this year was you get out of school early every day. So I saw his dad, I said, hey, he's going out for golf. He says, wants to get out of school early every day. I thought, that's my man right there.
Joe
That's good right there. That's the way to do version. I'm proud of you.
Mark
Oh, we start the cup at Carolina. I thought it was Vegas for some reason. We start tomorrow night.
Pat
Vegas was like. Wasn't Vegas a seventh seed or an eighth seed?
Joe
Yeah, Gophers Golf 2002. I gotta remember that guy's name. He's a hell of a player. Nice guy too. He was a furner, I think.
Mark
Well, while you doing that, let me tell you that if you do buy that new truck at Rosedale Chevrolet into a garage with a floor put in by Installed Building Solutions. I got the epoxy floor and it held up quite a few years, but it does not last. Like the new technology that installed Building Solutions uses polyurea, whatever that is, but it doesn't crack and fade and it has non skid ability. So you walk on it in the winter, you're not going to go down. These are the best floors with the most current technology available. They put that first technology stuff to shame. These things never yellow. You can hose them out, you can sweep it up. You can pick up oil with a Paper towel. These garages stay beautiful. And there's nothing better than a new garage floor when you consider how important the garage is to your whole outfit. There. Installed, building solutions. IBS coating. Coating is one word. C O a T I N G IBS coating.
Pat
Is it Justin Smith?
Mark
No.
Pat
I have the list right here. Pat, if you're looking for.
Joe
It's not the raw. That's not the team I was thinking.
Pat
Matt Anderson, Simon Nash, David Morgan, Wilhelm Shaman. Were your. Were your notable Gopher scores on that 2002 team?
Joe
Go. Dang it.
Pat
God bless it.
Mark
It's okay.
Joe
I have almost.
Mark
Was that their only title in golf?
Joe
Ah, yes.
Pat
They finished first. Georgia Tech was second. Clemson and Texas tied for third. And then Augusta State, James McLean.
Joe
There we go. 1998 was the champion. He was an Aussie, I believe.
Mark
Well, individual champ.
Joe
Individual.
Mark
Was he on the 2002 team?
Joe
He was gone by then. He was gone by that night.
Pat
Yes, sir.
Joe
Yes. Good.
Mark
Guys, now that you have a new knee.
Joe
Yes.
Mark
Why don't you take the game up again? I think.
Joe
I don't know if I could hit it over my pool in the backyard right now. I gotta say though, the neighbor kids are very resolute. Yesterday, raining, lousy weather.
Mark
Yep.
Joe
They were in that pool twice or morning. And after morning and late afternoon, I couldn't believe they were back and you
Mark
just stood there and tore up five dollar bills heating it.
Joe
Right? That's right. That's okay. It's.
Mark
Are they now. They're just. They just come and go at will now, don't they?
Joe
Well, I gave them a lifetime. Patches, little laminated things that they could. All they got to do is show
Mark
it to Pat's pool.
Joe
Yeah. Right. Yes. And if I happen to pop my head out, Olivia will ask me if I have any treats.
Mark
Oh, you gotta have treats.
Pat
Oh, gotta have treats.
Joe
Yes. So I.
Mark
Are they old enough to swim by themselves?
Joe
Well, mom and mom or Dad's always.
Mark
Oh, okay.
Joe
But. But they've seven and five or something. And then they got a baby, too. But the babies.
Mark
But you don't. There's no safety problems. It's just.
Joe
No, no. There's no diving board or anything like that. They're. They're.
Mark
They're.
Joe
I'm very confident that things will work out well.
Mark
Just show mom and dad are there.
Joe
Yeah, I went to a.
Mark
Otherwise, get a front end loader and fill that sucker.
Joe
I went to a graduation party for Kevin Seifert's daughter from Minnetaka yesterday. She graduated already. She was having it with her best buddy, who she'd known since 4. They were at the. The guy's house. Nice place, right down some backwater from Silver Lake, which is not exactly silver anymore, but across the rise is Christmas Lake Lake, which. Oh boy, you can smell the money from there. But the Tom Pelissero showed up. Thomas now, you know, started here basically for our website and is now a national scoop monster. For which outlet is he?
Pat
Well, he's NFL Network, but NFL Network got purchased by espn.
Joe
But he's one of the scoop monsters. But he has two cutest little daughters you ever saw. 12 and 9 and they're both in dance. I said, your days as a scoot monster are over because when they have a dance event, your daughters will be in the third dance and then the 42nd. Right.
Mark
I told you my story.
Joe
I told you. I told him your story.
Mark
Yes, I went to the pool and yacht club and sat at the bar and the guy said, dance recital. I said, yep, because there were the
Joe
place right next door.
Mark
I was at Sibley High School, which wasn't far away, but they were number two. And I thought, oh boy, we're getting out of here early. And then number 15.
Joe
Yeah.
Mark
Oh, now I had a little incident yesterday. I'm a little embarrassed about it. Couple of granddaughters were in their dance recital and I was happening to. I played golf.
Joe
Yes.
Mark
And I came in and I. A friend of mine was in the. In there and he was having lunch and there's a lot of little kids at the table. And he said, yeah, this is our post. We're having our post dance recital brunch. And I said, where was the dance recital? And he said. And he said it. The same place that my kids were at. I said, I didn't make it.
Joe
Yes, I had a very important dance.
Mark
I couldn't make it yesterday.
Joe
That very important.
Pat
Did you. Did you hear about that when you returned?
Mark
No. For some reason I'm not in trouble. I don't.
Pat
You were let off the hook.
Joe
I don't know why they really care if grandpa.
Mark
No, they would have known anyway.
Joe
Yeah.
Pat
Number two and 15.
Joe
If that's the only thing worse than dance recital is swimming. If you got to get your those
Mark
things last, oh, they can go all day.
Pat
I've heard wrestling tournaments for the youth are pretty bad too.
Joe
That's pretty probably true. I think it all is. I think. I think youth sports.
Pat
But at least for us with baseball, you know when the games are so you can run and grab groceries or go do something, you know, you got
Joe
Some time we were at East Ridge. Friday or Saturday. Saturday. Friday or Saturday. Field 17. Oh, boy, they got quite the complex out there.
Pat
We're going there this weekend. 17.
Joe
Field 17.
Mark
That's another thing about the people who govern the cities, the Marxists. There's not really good athletic fields in the city proper. You get out to the suburbs, there's some gorgeous stuff. Oh, yeah, they got lights and everything.
Joe
Yes. Yeah, it is. The city is. City doesn't quite have the dough to.
Mark
Well, they got the dough. They just don't spend it on stuff that you might spend it on. Yeah, like streets, lights at work.
Pat
I kind of like the challenge of going down Barrie, though. That's kind of fun.
Joe
When do we elect a governor? Every four years.
Mark
That's right, Pat. We got one come up in November.
Joe
I'll be 85 the next time. Probably could get elected. But if I do, the campaign is three years. No street repairs, no road repairs. We'll be out of debt. We'll get all our money back. And I'll have eight old guys with trucks filled with tar in the back. And if there's a big hole, we'll call Buster and say, hey, Buster, get your ass over there.
Pat
Get on over there.
Joe
Fill it up. Pat that thing in there. And we'll wait. And then like every four years, we'll have a street repair. They're doing stuff that's ridiculous.
Pat
I do like how when we shut down 280, now we got University. Single lane, too. That's a nice touch.
Mark
I couldn't get here today.
Pat
No, I had a tough time, too, because.
Mark
Because the way I come, they don't warn you until I took the turn to come here. And then I said, no, you can't. So I had to go through the water tower neighborhood over here, which is water tower, and get myself back on University Avenue and then come down east on University Avenue.
Joe
Right. You know, going home when I go. Go home. From Minneapolis, we got the 394. Right. Then we had the same lane where you would be open times. And for no apparent reason, we are now fixing that whole thing. And the backup to get through the tunnel is. Yeah, you could throw a rock from here and hit the damn thing. Could you? Racy system. We'd just. We'd be thrown down a little, but we'd.
Mark
Can you drive through Worth park to get home?
Joe
Yeah, I do it quite often.
Mark
You can do it.
Joe
I do it. I take Plymouth a lot.
Mark
Okay.
Joe
I hate to be racial about this, but. Yeah, a lot of those weenies in the white in the suburbs out there. They don't drive down Plymouth. I drive down Plymouth with the top down, wave to the guys, offer rides. We're moving pretty good. Yeah. Giving a guy a ride. What the hell? We're breezing down Plymouth.
Mark
That Plymouth cut through Worth Park.
Joe
Well, to get over from my house, we. You take Golden Valley Road and then you turn and you go through. You go halfway through Worth park and take a left onto Plymouth.
Mark
I'll be damned.
Joe
And it's. And then when you take. You know what I do? I take Plymouth and then I come on the river Road.
Mark
Oh, yeah.
Joe
Over there. And get to see a little scenery. And once in a while, they'll have it roadblocked from two days earlier. Not ever remove the roadblocks. But too many people use that road. And if you got. If you want to have a. A parade of seven people, they can call the city and they close down that road.
Mark
For the river Road on St. Paul's side is closed for an illness about every.
Joe
Yes, right.
Mark
About every weekend.
Joe
Yeah. Right it is.
Mark
Who are you raising money for this week?
Joe
I. I say. Okay, close it for the marathon. Marathon. That's fine. Yeah, but that's it. No, Once.
Mark
Once a year.
Joe
Good enough. Charity. Yeah, sorry, sorry. I don't want to run into a roadblock. But it's great, you know.
Mark
See you next Monday.
Joe
Then you get on to Franklin, though. And if you. When you go left, then you go semi left, then you go right, then you go semi right. You got fully right and semi right. Right. And if you get a confused elderly person such as me and doesn't go right away, then that light's changed. Some profanities are uttered from my vehicle because we could have gotten through. We've waited here.
Mark
Oh, you.
Joe
Mrs. Whatever. Go right. Let's go then. Believable. Yes. Go Twinks. I'm going to the game tonight, and I think we'll see the whole new operation here that's ready be fired up.
Pat
Yes, it is. See you later.
Joe
Bye.
Episode: MNST: The NHL and NBA seasons are way too long!!!!!
Date: June 1, 2026
Host: Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor")
Panel: Mark, Pat
Network: Gamut Podcast Network
In this episode, the Garage Logic crew dives into why the NHL and NBA seasons feel endless, debating playoff formats, the impact of TV revenue, and the effect on athletes and fans. The crew reflects on Minnesota sports, reminisces about local legends, discusses recent sports headlines (including a bombshell NFL trade), and meanders through nostalgic and local topics, all wrapped in their classic blend of humor and old-school storytelling.
[01:46–04:01]
“You can be the best team...and you just run out of steam.” (Joe, 02:14)
“How about best of five and get this thing over with before June?” (Mark, 02:35)
“It should be over before the US Open, shouldn't it?” (Joe, 07:56)
[02:25–05:55]
[06:26–08:01]
[16:42–18:08]
“The Cleveland Browns have just traded Myles Garrett to the Los Angeles Rams.” (Pat, 16:50)
[18:12–19:00]
[19:00–26:33]
“Why do we have all these 32-year-olds? Why don’t we have some 23-year-olds who are failing miserably but might get better?” (Joe, 21:16)
[21:09–24:55]
[25:12–26:33]
“Nine years ago, NHL was so hard up for money that they…let you fleece every team for some of their best players.” (Joe, 25:12)
[09:02–11:19]
“He built the boat himself in his garage.” (Mark, 10:47)
[32:00–34:07]
“They’re giving it all away to charity. That was his dying wish.” (Pat, 33:57)
[34:48–39:23]
[44:52–45:10]
“There’s not really good athletic fields in the city proper—you get out to the suburbs, there’s some gorgeous stuff.”
[45:10–49:15]
The discussion is witty, wandering, and filled with dry, Midwestern humor. The show balances pointed sports commentary with nostalgia, local color, and gently curmudgeonly takes on the absurdities of modern sports and urban life. The camaraderie between the hosts keeps the pace lively even as the topics range from serious sports debates to friendly neighborhood tales.
This installment of Garage Logic is a quintessential slice of Minnesota sports talk, flavored heavily with homespun wisdom, sharp critiques of professional sports’ excesses, and loving jabs at local teams’ perpetual underachievement. If you care about the spirit (and gripes) of the Minnesota fan, mixed with laughter and lore, this episode sums up everything Garage Logic fans love.