MNST: The U.S. wins their first gold medal in Men's hockey since the Miracle On Ice in 1980

Summary

Garage Logic Podcast: MNST – U.S. Men’s Hockey Wins Gold for the First Time Since 1980

Episode Date: February 24, 2026
Host: Joe Soucheray (“The Mayor” of Garage Logic)
Notable Contributors: Pat, Rookie

Episode Overview

This episode of Garage Logic celebrates and reflects on Team USA Men's Hockey's dramatic gold medal win at the 2026 Winter Olympics—their first since the iconic "Miracle on Ice" in 1980. The panel dives into the game’s nuances, shares stories (both old and new), and explores the Minnesota connections in U.S. hockey. Beyond hockey, the conversation veers into Olympic memories, sports scheduling gripes, family legacies, nostalgia, and some poignant moments about sports figures past and present.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. U.S. Men’s Hockey – A Historic Gold Medal

(01:58–05:13, 22:03–24:45)

• The hosts debate whether this gold matched the “Miracle on Ice.”
  • Pat: “I'm calling it Surprise on Ice. It's not a miracle ... It was fun.” (02:02)
  • No “miracle” because the 1980 U.S. team’s defeat of the Soviets was fundamentally bigger.
• The “hot goalie” was crucial to this year’s win.
• Player management insights: Tkachuk brothers’ ice time and the fascinating family/friend dynamics around the team.
• Discussion about players left off the roster, such as Jack Hughes’ selection and his strong impact, including a critical goal.

2. Personalities, Legacies, & Minnesota Ties in Hockey

(03:16–08:05, 19:03–24:21)

• Colorful character commentary: Pat calls the Tkachuk brothers “cement heads.”
• Anecdotes around team chemistry—anecdotes from the locker room and off the ice.
• Discussion of the Hughes family hockey dynasty, their upbringing, and their roles in U.S. hockey.
• Minnesota legacy: 12 Minnesotans named on the 1980 gold team, three generations of Christians from Warroad, and Brock Nelson’s extended family connections (“three generations of gold medal winners in Warroad” – 19:27).
• Heartfelt mentions: The parents ("the old man"), team parents’ presence at the Olympics, and the emotional family angles.

3. Hockey Analysis and Player Focus

(04:38–05:32, 35:12–36:09)

• Hughes family detailed (where raised, teams, family anecdotes).
• “Hot goalie” narrative—praising Conor Hellebuyck for stonewalling Canada in gold medal game.
• Iconic photo moments: “The photo of Hughes with the bloody gums with the flag, that's got to be one of the top photos ...” (35:40)
• Player toughness: Stories of Jack Hughes losing teeth during the game and re-entering play—a testament to hockey grit.

4. Memorable Hockey and Olympic Moments

(10:50–12:47, 13:10–15:21, 21:18–22:03)

• The panel laughs over a viral Trump impression congratulating Team USA ("snow Mexico" quip, “Nobody loves gold as much as I do ...” – 08:50).
• Nostalgia for Olympic pasts: Comparing current Olympics to Squaw Valley 1960 and Lake Placid 1980.
  • Discussion of skate and rink setups, event growth, and Americana.
• Fate, numbers, and omens: Dave Christian’s voodoo seat numbers aligning with family jersey numbers, and legendary coincidences with game dates.
  • “How about this ... section six, row 10, seat 23. Dad and uncle were numbers six and 10 in 1960. And in 1980, I was 23.” (22:28)

5. Family, Tragedy, & Human Interest

(24:08–25:10)

• Poignant story of the Goodreau family—tragic cycling accident involving the kids’ father after a wedding, and seeing their family featured in the celebration.
  • “Is there a sadder looking guy in the world than Mr. Goodreau? ... that's the saddest looking human being I've ever seen.” (24:46)
  • Broadly, a reflection on parental loss and grief.

6. Olympic Miscellany & Memories

(11:11–13:15)

• Quick pivots to figure skating controversy (Alyssa Liu, Eileen Gu) and debates about athletes representing China.
• Memories of ski jumping (and missing it this Olympics), and “the Three Stooges” chaos of short track speed skating.

7. Baseball and the Problems with Spring Training

(15:44–18:12, 39:43–44:53)

• The Twins begin spring training, complaints about early schedules and empty ballparks.
• They bemoan the World Baseball Classic’s overlap with Olympic years: “Do not have the World Baseball Classic during an Olympic year. We've already done all that international crapola.”
• The overabundance of April games for the Minnesota Twins, with risky weather.
• Critiques of MLB’s relentless scheduling (opening games in Baltimore, Kansas City, too many April home games).

8. College Sports, Team Moves, and League Realignment

(43:02–44:52)

• Frustration with conference realignment in college sports.
  • “The Big Ten has two rotten teams ... Rutgers and Maryland ... they brought nothing. ... Why don't we trade?”
• Commentary on Kevin Warren as an “absolutely ruthless” sports executive.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Olympic Upsets:
  • “It was a surprise on ice.” (Pat, 02:02)
• On Tkachuk Brothers:
  • “They are cement heads. But people thought I was doing it because of Trump ... I don't pay enough attention to hockey to know that they were pals of Trump.” (Pat, 03:05–03:16)
• Trump Impersonation (Sean Farage):
  • “First, we took your sport. Next, we may take your country if we want to do that. Congratulations, Team USA. God bless America and thank you for your attention to this matter.” (Sean Farage as Trump, 09:55)
• On Generational Hockey Legends:
  • “Twelve Minnesotans on that team [1980]. … How about three generations of gold medal winners in Warroad?” (Pat & Joe, 19:19–19:27)
• On Family Loss:
  • “Is there a sadder looking guy in the world than Mr. Goodreau? ... that's the saddest looking human being I've ever seen.” (Joe, 24:46)
• On Olympic Fate:
  • “Section six, row 10, seat 23. Dad and uncle were numbers six and 10 in 1960. And in 1980, I was 23.” (Joe, quoting McClanahan, 22:28)
• On Tooth Loss in Hockey:
  • “McClanahan was in front of the net and got jammed ... he got back to the bench and he asked, 'Is my tooth chipped?' and he says, 'No, there ain't no tooth.'” (Pat, 35:12)
• On Baseball in Early Spring:
  • “Take eight games off the schedule and play 154 like they used.” (Pat, 41:56)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Topic | Time | |--------------------------------------------------|--------------| | Hockey Gold & Immediate Reaction | 01:58–05:13 | | Tkachuk Brothers & Team Chemistry | 03:03–04:38 | | Hughes Family & Hockey Legacies | 05:45–08:05 | | Trump Impression Reacts to Win | 08:50–10:54 | | Olympic Figure Skating Anecdotes | 11:11–12:47 | | Nostalgia – Ski Jumping, Short Track | 13:10–15:21 | | Twins/MLB Spring Training Rant | 15:44–18:12 | | Medals, Minnesotans, & Family Dynasties | 19:03–24:21 | | Goodreau Family Tragedy | 24:08–25:10 | | Fate and Numbers – Christian Family Anecdotes | 22:03–23:14 | | College/Pro Team Realignment Rant | 43:02–44:53 | | Misc: Tooth Loss, Hockey Grit, Photos | 35:12–36:09 |

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Tone & Style

The conversation is folksy, teasing, sometimes irreverent, and often sentimental—true to Garage Logic’s common-sense, Minnesota-rooted tone. The “Mayor” and crew use inside jokes, digress into stories with local color, and weave in running gags on sports, politics, and life.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode:

This episode is a celebration of Minnesota hockey pride, American sports tradition, and the quirks that make both enduring. It’s about legacies—family ones, local ones, and national ones—and the bittersweet passage of time in sports, marked by both triumph and loss. Whether you care about puck drop strategy, hockey family trees, or simply enjoy watching Minnesotans needle each other over beer and box scores, this Garage Logic episode delivers a flavorful slice of that world.

Transcript

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[Joe]

You can reprise your line after 1980. They had a hot goal.

[Pat]

Hot goalie. We did have a hot goalie. I'm calling it Surprise on Ice. It's not a miracle on ice. It was a surprise on ice.

[Joe]

It was fun.

[Pat]

Man. I saw we. I saw we and strip had the word miracle in there or miracle repeated or something like that.

[Joe]

It really not the same kind of miracle. The whole miracle was them beating the Russians.

[Pat]

Yes, and the US might have got outplayed, but not by that much. And they can skate up and down the ice just like those other guys. Yeah, and in fact, they didn't have the requirement to play 1 line 2/3 of the time like the Canadians did. But they got Brad Marchand still limping around at age 37 and you know,

[Rookie]

boy he's easy to hate, isn't he?

[Pat]

He is. He would have, you know, he was on his best behavior. But he would really like to hit you with a head, with a stick.

[Rookie]

You know, I have to tell you this.

[Joe]

Well, you were a little harder than Tachuk brothers.

[Pat]

The Tachuk brothers.

[Joe]

Cement heads, you call them.

[Pat]

They are cement heads. But the people thought it. I was doing it because of Trump. I don't pay enough attention to hockey to know that they were pals of Trump.

[Rookie]

Oh, I didn't know that either.

[Pat]

I didn't know that. But you should see my responses. I got 160 of the. Of the MAGA type of responses.

[Rookie]

I was at Lakeville South High School yesterday for two different travel baseball, basketball tournaments. And cement heads was used continuously yesterday after I saw your tweet. God, did that make me laugh.

[Pat]

Look at these.

[Joe]

It turns out that Tachuk brothers, according to the Hughes brothers, were the star of the village. They'd leave their door open all the time. That's where people hung out.

[Pat]

Well, you know, Billy and the old man are buddies. Billy and the old man, in fact, famously. Was it with an Olympic team? It was the old man.

[Joe]

Keith.

[Pat]

Keith, yeah. Were they an Olympic team together?

[Joe]

Probably.

[Pat]

They were together somehow. And there was alcohol invol and ended up getting busted up in bad shape. And Billy and Keith were the main. Main culprits, I guess, in that thing. And it was some kind of a US World team or something like that. And the coach said, don't do that again, you know, so. But Billy and the old man are apparently buddies, so that's. Do you think. But we didn't put them on the ice much when. When the game was being decided there. We didn't. We didn't want one of those stupid penalties.

[Joe]

So do you. There's any. Was there. Was there manipulations going on that Billy took Jack Hughes because he's trying to soften up Quinn and I think he took Jack Hughes because Jack Hughes turned out to be the right guy.

[Pat]

Really good player. And, you know, he scored an important goal.

[Joe]

I would say it was an important one.

[Pat]

He did. He did. He can fly too, you know, but, you know, I. I don't.

[Joe]

You're bound to leave off a team like that, some great players, and they

[Pat]

kind of chose him. And then didn't he get hurt a little bit and he missed some games or something, but I don't know. The brother is something, though. I was talking to. I think it was. It was Ba told me Harrington Ba said Makar. How we pronounce that? Makar. Makar.

[Rookie]

KL Makar.

[Pat]

Fabulous. He says Quinn, he was just as good, you know, so the puck all the time. But how much did they play that Makar, by the way? He had to play 30 pounds.

[Rookie]

He was out there a lot.

[Pat]

He was out there.

[Joe]

I didn't know that. He used his Jewish mom, Catholic dad.

[Pat]

Oh, is that right?

[Joe]

Yeah. Mom's a Jewish athlete she played hockey for in New Hampshire.

[Pat]

Really?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Rookie]

Did you see the photo that I was talking about earlier? There's a photo of her.

[Pat]

She didn't have much discipline though, when they were growing up.

[Rookie]

But she was in the front yard with the stick and the boys couldn't have been older than four. Yeah, mom was a good looking.

[Joe]

Mom was a babe.

[Pat]

Well, Keith had a nice long career, didn't he?

[Rookie]

No, I was talking about the Hughes.

[Pat]

Oh, the Hughes. I thought we were still talking.

[Joe]

No, we're talking Hughes.

[Pat]

Oh, Hughes is okay. Mama's. Where did they grow up? Boston area.

[Joe]

Michigan.

[Pat]

Oh, Michigan. Guys. Okay.

[Joe]

They're born in Florida and moved to Michigan.

[Pat]

Yeah, well, yeah, they're. And the third one, he's the. He and Jack are teammates someplace, right?

[Rookie]

Is it Washington?

[Joe]

The third Hughes, Jack, Luke and Quinn.

[Pat]

One of his. Luke been banged up while there was.

[Joe]

Luke and Jack are New Jersey. Okay, here's the deal.

[Rookie]

Didn't we have a Luke Hughes twins player?

[Pat]

Yeah, that's right. He's the one that, he's the one that told Mackie. I think it's because I was making fun of the fact that he could only hit a pitch. Remember that? He sit on everything inside and he could only hit a pitch. And I says, hey, what's wrong with your mate?

[Rookie]

What's wrong with your mate there? On the radio?

[Pat]

Yeah, on the radio.

[Joe]

Quinn Hughes was number one draft choice of the Canucks.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Joe]

He spent his whole career there.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Joe]

I, I, that didn't even dawn on me until the Wild got him that

[Pat]

because he was on me. How good he was until I saw him.

[Joe]

Well, that's. I was going to say I didn't know of him.

[Pat]

No.

[Joe]

Playing for Vancouver.

[Pat]

I knew the name, but I didn't know he was great.

[Joe]

I didn't know he was this good.

[Pat]

No. Heavens no.

[Joe]

Now they got to go right back at it Wednesday night.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The Wild play Wednesday or Thursday.

[Pat]

They're on the road.

[Joe]

They're at Colorado. Either Wednesday or Thursday, I can tell you.

[Pat]

Thursday, I believe.

[Joe]

Yeah, whatever.

[Pat]

Fact, I think their first practice is tomorrow and they got another one Wednesday too. But I would guess the Olympians don't have to attend the Tuesday.

[Rookie]

I'm gonna guess the Olympians Are gonna need a little recovery.

[Pat]

The Olympians, they're invited to the State of the Union. I don't know if they're going or not.

[Rookie]

Oh, I don't know.

[Pat]

The. The women's team, respectively declined, which was good.

[Joe]

The guys might go.

[Pat]

Yeah. Some of them might go, yeah. Yeah.

[Rookie]

Well, they're on the phone with him last night with the president.

[Pat]

Well, it's Patel. Was Patel.

[Rookie]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Did Pat hear that? What Trump said? Okay, have you heard what Trump said about the game?

[Rookie]

Give me a second here.

[Joe]

Yeah, he got. Here we go here.

[Rookie]

Here we go.

[Sean Farage (Impersonator)]

This is your favorite president. And I just wanted to congratulate Team USA Hockey on their gold medal victory over, or as I like to call them, snow Mexico. But I got off the phone with Prime Minister Carney and she's very upset about it. She's not happy about it, but she'll get over it. I told her, quiet, piggy. Shut the chuck up and be quiet, because the winners are here. You look at the Tkachuk brothers. They did a fantastic job. You look at. I get along very well with him. Connor Hellebuck. And he did a tremendous job. You know, he's. They call him a net minder. I call him a goalie, but he did a fantastic job in net. The only thing more secure than Conor Hellebuk is southern border. It's a tremendous border. Nothing gets through. And Conor Ellenbach was fantastic. Jack Hughes. Jack Hughes. They say you don't know Jack. I know Jack very well. And he scored the game winning goal. It was a beautiful shot. Nobody's ever seen a better shot before. Is a tremendous shot. But our team won. You know, you look at it, Canada's French came out at the wrong time. You never want to go full French because once you do, it means you're going to lose. And that's what happened to Canada. Poor snow, Mexico. And they're all very upset about it. But congratulations to Team USA on the gold. We love gold. Nobody loves gold as much as I do. We're going to tariff Canada's silver medals at 25%. The Supreme Court could chew on. And to Canada. First, we took your sport. Next, we may take your country if we want to do that. Congratulations, Team usa. God bless America and thank you for your attention to this matter.

[Joe]

That's a guy named Ferrara.

[Rookie]

Sean Farage.

[Pat]

Farage. You know the funny thing I wrote? I read his Twitter account. He's kind of a right winger.

[Rookie]

Little bit, yeah.

[Pat]

But he's having fun.

[Rookie]

Oh, he's gonna print money doing this

[Joe]

impersonation it's better than Karvins.

[Rookie]

It's way better.

[Pat]

Yeah, it is fantastic.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Yeah, it really is.

[Rookie]

No, Mexico.

[Pat]

Yeah, he's. What was. What was I going to say though, when he was going. I gotta re.

[Joe]

Did you like Alyssa Lou? Did you watch any figure ski?

[Pat]

No, not any.

[Joe]

She was fun. She was.

[Pat]

Bad music. Wonderful.

[Joe]

She had good tunes.

[Pat]

She had good tunes. I love the. I love the girl. The gal that's winning for China and everybody's mad at her.

[Joe]

Elaine Goose, the communist trader. She trained on our snow.

[Pat]

She trained on her snow?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Pat]

And she has no right to the. What's she doing Skiing. Right.

[Joe]

She's one of the hippie skis. Snowboarding and stuff.

[Pat]

And.

[Joe]

And she made a ton of money. And Alyssa Lou was. Made the same offer apparently, and turned it down because her father is a dissiden.

[Pat]

I think I saw 2 mil. She got 2 mil from China to Elaine Gu.

[Joe]

25 million.

[Pat]

25.

[Joe]

I read 25 million. I have no evidence.

[Pat]

Well, I. Who'd blame her?

[Joe]

Well, she's a traitor.

[Pat]

Grandma thinks it's great. Is grandma still alive?

[Joe]

I don't know. You know, Alyssa Lou doesn't even have a mother.

[Pat]

What you mean you just.

[Joe]

That was.

[Pat]

Showed up on a doorstep sometime, donated

[Joe]

egg to create the child.

[Pat]

Oh, I saw that. Yeah, that's right.

[Joe]

I didn't even know who her mom is. Her dad raised the. The kids. Yeah, and he fled China and he

[Pat]

didn't take the money.

[Joe]

Hell, they didn't take any money.

[Pat]

Maybe he wasn't offered the money because he fled China.

[Joe]

Well, she would have been offered the money.

[Pat]

Yeah, I know, but what I'm saying. Maybe the family didn't.

[Joe]

Well, she was fun.

[Pat]

I watched the entire hockey game yesterday morning, which quadrupled my Olympic time spent watching.

[Joe]

Really?

[Pat]

I didn't watch hardly.

[Rookie]

Anyway, I thought you were a big Winter Olympics guy.

[Pat]

I like the Winter Olympics. But you know.

[Joe]

You know what I missed and I love it. I miss ski jumping. I didn't see any.

[Pat]

Yeah, where was it?

[Joe]

Where was it? Are you sure they had it? Yeah.

[Rookie]

You know why? If you opened up social media with the drones they had this year. Oh, some of the footage was incredible.

[Joe]

How did I miss ski jumping? I missed the whole thing.

[Pat]

That was when I was in Lillehammer. The most fun I had was. Well, there was several thing. But the. There were a bunch of Norwegians out in front of the press box at the ski jump and they. They for some reason, like if you got four jumpers, they all from a country they go in an order. In other words, the U.S. they're four ski jumpers. And the Swedes were jumping and falling

[Joe]

and, boy, are you having a Royce. Like, acidic.

[Pat]

I haven't been drinking as much Diet Coke. And they were falling and stumbling around and these Norwegians were having the time of their lives watching the Swedes fall on their heads. And they were taunting the Swedes.

[Joe]

Well, I haven't even heard about ski jumping. Anybody set records?

[Pat]

We used to be good. Yeah, this used to be the capital, for God's sake.

[Joe]

They still got the big jump out in Bloomington somewhere.

[Pat]

Yeah. You see it over there? I don't know if we never read anything.

[Joe]

There used to be one in Battle Creek park, you know, where we used

[Pat]

to kick ass speed skating. The one in St. Paul. The one at Como was huge. And then there was one in Minneapolis, too.

[Joe]

Well, America did good with this Stoles kid this year. The little. The farm kid from Wisconsin.

[Pat]

It won't be. It was. It was seeing the look back in the miracle documentary and the Haydn was on it to some extent. And, man, he was a monster. He was a hockey player. Man, what a. He was skating around and the rest of those guys looked like midgets compared to him.

[Joe]

That was an outdoor rink in the parking lot of Lake Placid High School.

[Pat]

Yeah, right. There's an old high school right there. It's incredible. Yeah. And there were people and the bleachers were standing. Right. Everybody just stood around.

[Joe]

I don't think they had short track then.

[Pat]

No, they didn't.

[Joe]

I could watch that all night. I love that. That is the. That's the Three Stooges.

[Pat]

Yes, it is. I remember the first time they broke it out. Man, all they do is, like, put a glorified hockey puck there for you to show you where the tracks go. And I'm surprised they don't kill each other.

[Joe]

That was fun watching that. What else we got? Twins are already playing games.

[Pat]

Yes. And look very impressive against the Gophers.

[Rookie]

I listened to a pheromone on Saturday,

[Pat]

handled the Gophers Saturday. We got beat, but Rice had a bomb. Rice hit a bomb. And then yesterday we.

[Joe]

Who'd we beat?

[Rookie]

Atlanta, right?

[Joe]

Yeah, Atlanta.

[Pat]

Did we have a rain delay or something that I don't know. Still on, like, at 4:30? And, you know, once again, it reiterates to me spring training is too early because the Braves, they couldn't have had 1500 people in the stands. There was nobody Saturday.

[Rookie]

They were at Fort Myers. Right. Because it sounded like they had a Decent crowd via the radio.

[Pat]

Sunday in Atlanta. West Palm.

[Joe]

Really?

[Pat]

There's two.

[Rookie]

Well, that's the thing, Pat, because with the World Baseball Classic now we're playing. We started playing games halfway through February.

[Pat]

Well, it's too early. They started. They might be starting them a little earlier, but they've been doing it. They've been doing it like February 24th or February.

[Joe]

Where is the World Baseball Classic?

[Pat]

Various places.

[Rookie]

Four different sites, right? Isn't that what it is?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Rookie]

Four different sites.

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[Pat]

Baseball. Do not have the World Baseball Classic during an Olympic year. We've already done all that international crapola. Plus we got the soccer coming. It's the World Baseball Classic. Can get zero attention.

[Rookie]

Too much patriotism.

[Pat]

Oh, way too much patriotism. I didn't mind. I. I didn't see. I didn't stay for the ceremony for the hockey, did I? Did. What? Do we just have the captain go out there? The whole team?

[Joe]

No, every. The team. Both teams lined up. They each got a medal.

[Pat]

Everybody gets a gold medal, huh?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Okay, I thought just one of them.

[Joe]

No, you get the.

[Pat]

Oh, I thought maybe they mailed them to them.

[Joe]

No, no, you gotta. You can get them. You get them.

[Pat]

Yeah, right. Yeah, but then they have to do that for the bronze and the silver, too.

[Joe]

Yeah, and then you got to give them back to get your name inscribed and they're returned to you.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Joe]

And Planning was telling us today that in 1980 nobody wanted to give the gold the medal over. They didn't trust anybody. But they did. And they all got their names on them.

[Pat]

That's good. That's good. 12 Minnesotans on that team. 12 out of 20 and 80. 80.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Well about it.

[Joe]

How about three generations of gold medal winners in War Road?

[Pat]

That's all Christians. Well, Gordon. Gordon was a billion. What was the other one that we're on a 60 team. Billy and Roger. But Gordon was on the 56 team.

[Joe]

Well, I didn't know that.

[Pat]

And which won the silver then Roger and Billy and Billy's still alive. Were on the 60 team. And then Brock Nelson.

[Joe]

What about Dave was 80 and now

[Pat]

Brock Nelson's grandfather great uncle won gold and his dad won gold. And now his dad. His dad is his uncle. Right. Dave's his uncle because his mom's a Christian. Brock's mom is a Christian.

[Joe]

You want to feel old?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The gold medal in 60 and the gold medal in 80 were only 20 years apart.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Joe]

This medal is 46 years apart. And where did that 46 years go?

[Pat]

I remember watching 60. It was the first hockey game.

[Joe]

I watch it. Yep.

[Pat]

First hockey game I ever watched in my life in folder Minnesota from Squaw Valley. And. And there wasn't a hell of a lot of difference between the 60 Olympics and the 80 Olympics. You know, there was just the same events in a quaint little town.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Pat]

Squaw Valley. And then an open sided hockey rig. Yes. And then think of what the Olympics are now. They're pretty big deal. Pretty big deal. The number of events they've come.

[Joe]

When did the Olympics decide that they would use professional hockey players? And why, I wonder?

[Pat]

Well, the trend started with the dream team in 92. We're going to get the best athletes.

[Joe]

Okay. Started with basketball.

[Pat]

Basketball. We're going to get the best athletes. That was Samarash. The was the president and of the IOC and he said he wanted to. And it was coming to Barcelona and he wanted. He didn't want just basketball. He wanted magic and the boys. And so then it became get the best athletes and let's have the Olympics. And worked out pretty good.

[Rookie]

Did you tell Pat the voodoo with the numbers that McClanahan told you?

[Joe]

Did I tell you that? Did I tell you that last night? No. Let me find it.

[Rookie]

Because Dave Christian was in attendance, correct?

[Joe]

Dave Christian was over in Italy.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Joe]

And I got a note from Mcclanahan here. He got a text yesterday from Dave Christian in Italy.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Joe]

How about this. How about. This is my seat for tonight, section six, row 10, seat 23. Dad and uncle were numbers six and 10 in 1960. And in 1980, I was 23.

[Pat]

Did was somebody smart enough to have done that?

[Joe]

That's voodoo. I wonder.

[Pat]

Yes, it is.

[Joe]

Section six, row ten. That was the dad and uncle's numbers and he was 23.

[Rookie]

Canada had no chance.

[Joe]

And then. Then Christian signed it off. Never a doubt on this 2026 goal.

[Rookie]

Fantastic.

[Joe]

Unbelievable.

[Pat]

Yeah, it is.

[Joe]

It is it vibe to it.

[Pat]

I wonder if somebody. I wonder if somebody was smart. Not. No, they wouldn't. Nobody. That had to be accidental. That had to be.

[Rookie]

It's fate, Patrick. That's fate right there.

[Pat]

Yes, it is.

[Rookie]

And how about the fact that it was the same day as the 80 game?

[Joe]

Yeah, same day.

[Pat]

It was the same day in the Russian game, not the.

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[Rookie]

Thank you. Yes, the Russian game. And it was George Washington's birthday and the two Goodrell or the youngest Gujaro kids. It was his birthday, too. How it all aligned on the same day. I thought that was.

[Joe]

Now, Johnny Grudeau, I take it, would have been on this club.

[Rookie]

Yes.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat]

Oh, God, yeah, it was.

[Rookie]

Them bringing the kids out on the ice was pretty good.

[Pat]

Having the family there, that was a nice touch.

[Joe]

But is there a sadder looking guy in the world of Mr. Goodreau? Oh, man, that's the saddest looking human being I've ever seen.

[Rookie]

Yep.

[Pat]

Well, what a way to go, man. Just drive. Riding your bike out.

[Joe]

The kids tried to do the right thing because they probably got tuned up at the wedding and said, we better not drive. We'll take our bikes. The bicycle home. Yeah.

[Pat]

Well, I thought it was before the wedding.

[Rookie]

No, no, it was after. It was after.

[Pat]

It wasn't.

[Rookie]

Yeah, well, in fact, it wasn't. It wasn't. It just the. The night before the wedding.

[Pat]

That's what I mean. It was. Maybe they must have been at like

[Rookie]

a groom's dinner or something.

[Pat]

Yeah, something like that.

[Rookie]

Sad story.

[Pat]

Oh, unbelievable. God, just a country road, man. I. I ended up doing a piece on a guy over here and, you know, lives over on Lake of the Isles, I guess, who's a big buddy made of his and Johnny in college and man alive, where they shook up. That was just terrible. Great guy, I guess. Just a fantastic.

[Joe]

Well, the, The. The. The Mrs. Gudreau, Johnny's wife, still can put on a pleasant smiling face and she has the two little kids there. But the camera showed the old man and I thought this is. This isn't good. No.

[Pat]

No, he's not. Probably wished he didn't go.

[Joe]

He's not. Not all there.

[Rookie]

What's the worst thing?

[Joe]

Burying a. You can't be two. Yeah. You can't go before the kid. You got it? You. The kid can't go before you.

[Rookie]

You gotta outlive the kid.

[Joe]

That's one of the rules, you know. Well, what are you gonna do?

[Rookie]

I have a question, Pat. About.

[Pat]

We wonder how Louvoltz's health is. Who? Lou Holtz.

[Rookie]

Oh, I don't know.

[Pat]

Hospice, you know.

[Joe]

Yeah. Well, if the hospice is a bad sign.

[Pat]

Yeah. I need a column this week.

[Joe]

Well, I don't. You know what's coming up on the ride. You yell at me for what's coming up on the ride, and you go, I wonder how Lou's doing. I need a cow.

[Pat]

Mean, if you got to be. If you got to go Thursday, be good, you know.

[Joe]

Well, you can still talk. Call them up.

[Pat]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Lou, can you hang on for a couple.

[Joe]

I need some anytime.

[Pat]

This week is fine.

[Joe]

What do you want to do on Lou?

[Pat]

Oh, I got to write something on Lou. If he goes, what are you going to tell him?

[Joe]

Hey, Lou, I know you're going to die any minute. I'd like to get a column first.

[Pat]

Well, we went nuts for Lou when he came to town. There's.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Pat]

We're now the music man. The generation with the 84. 85. 84 is a long time ago.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Pat]

You know.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Rookie]

Any thoughts on Sydney?

[Pat]

Lou was. Oh, God, that was.

[Joe]

Well, how old is Lou now? 80s.

[Pat]

Damn near late 80s, I think. Maybe even 90. I don't know. He was. He would have taken her. He'd be at the. He'd be at the State of the Union if he was still in good health. Oh, God. Yeah. Very right winger.

[Rookie]

89. Lewis, 89. January 6, 1937.

[Joe]

So if you're in hospice, you generally don't leave hospice, do you?

[Rookie]

Typically, no.

[Joe]

You can. A miracle or something.

[Pat]

He could. If anybody could talk his way into a few more years, months at least, that'd be Lou.

[Rookie]

He only had one kid, so.

[Pat]

Reavers. I probably told you this story, but. Yes, sir, I think it's his second year, and they're having a Lou Holtz lookalike contest at the U. You know, a lookalike contest. And we had a great artist at the Pioneer Press, Tim Van Ness. When you got there, Tim was still there, but he'd be in there on Sunday, and nobody. No. Editors were ever around, and Tim would be in there on Sunday. And Tim might have. Might have had a marijuana cigarette once in a while. I wouldn't accuse him of that. But he never did it in the building. I think he went upstairs. But anyway, he was always in a good mood. There was nobody around. And I said. And I was looking for a column and I wanted to do a music man. Lou was the music man to win the look alike contest. So we got a picture of Robert Preston and with the hat. And then we got a little gopher on there. We put a gopher on the hat and then that was our lookalike contest. Then when you turn the page, you know, you had to turn the page to see the lookalike thing, which I thought was hilarious. Deborah Howe chewed my ass.

[Joe]

Really? Really.

[Pat]

We don't alter photos. We don't alter photos. Cause she was getting calls all over. So then that year on this. On December 24th, 5th, when you woke on up the paper, they got Santa in his sleigh.

[Rookie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Over St. Paul.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Pat]

And I go with it. No, I go in there like two days later when she's back in. We don't alter photos. Look at this. That's the thing about her.

[Joe]

Did she laugh?

[Pat]

Yeah, she was.

[Joe]

Oh, she's cool.

[Pat]

She'd chew your ass. But she wasn't happy when I left,

[Joe]

you know, I know she was angry

[Pat]

because I saw her years later, like 10 years later.

[Joe]

Right.

[Pat]

The Star Tribune had her in because she'd been a new Newhouse, I don't know, Washington bureau editor. And she would. Good job. They were have. They'd have these seminars with important journalists. And I saw her and she was in there talking to some people. And I said, deborah, let's hug it out. And she said, get away from me, you mfer. But she said. She used the words, the whole one.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Pat]

But after that, we were okay.

[Rookie]

I did not know this about the Holt's tenure here, that we had recruiting violations.

[Pat]

Later. Luther Darva.

[Rookie]

Oh, okay.

[Joe]

I remember Luther.

[Rookie]

I don't. I never remembered. I didn't.

[Pat]

Yeah, Luther was. Luther was a guy that was around the school and Lou kind of got him to take care of some of the brothers.

[Rookie]

Gotcha.

[Pat]

So I don't know, it wasn't bad.

[Rookie]

It wasn't significant.

[Pat]

Luther. Didn't Luther end up. I think, loser. Ended up dying young. I don't.

[Joe]

Lou didn't distinguish himself here, did he, in any way?

[Pat]

Well, he put him in the. He put him in the stands, though. I mean, the first year they were 4 and 7, and the next year they were 6 and 5 and went to a bowl game. Yeah, but he left.

[Joe]

So he was here two years.

[Pat]

Yeah, he left.

[Rookie]

He had a Notre Dame clause in his contract, supposedly.

[Pat]

What a crock of crap that was. And. But he left on Thanksgiving weekend. Right. Wasn't it because they played their last game before that. And that's what poor Chad. Chad tells the great story about.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Pat]

When he comes back from Arizona State, the first time he'd been called, he thought he expected to see this joyous father greeted him at the airport. Guy looks like he just got, you know, five relatives killed in a plane crash. And he says, sid, what's going on? He says, Holtz is going to Notre Dame. He would have traded Chad staying at Arizona State for four years without ever coming home if Lou would only stay. Harvey's still with us, though. Harvey, I think 92 now.

[Joe]

Is he?

[Pat]

Yeah. We had our annual lunch about the last four years.

[Joe]

I wouldn't have lunch with him if he paid me $10 million.

[Pat]

Entertainment. Because you sit down at 1 at noon and say, hello, Harvey. And then at 1:30 you say, thank you, Harvey. And in between, you don't say 25 words, you know, so he dominates the conversation.

[Rookie]

But that's okay, Pat, I have a question about that. I didn't. So I obviously knew he had coaching experience. He left Arkansas to come here.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Rookie]

So this was viewed as a step up.

[Pat]

No, he was being run out of Arkansas.

[Joe]

When did he have the jets before Arkansas?

[Pat]

Yes. And he stayed 13 games, I think, and went and decided he was a college coach. You know, he. He liked to scream at people and intimidate people, players, and you can't, you know, he got to the pro and they, you know, basically paid no attention to him. So he got out. I think there were four or nine. He quit, left, went to Arkansas.

[Joe]

And who attends this McKay lunch?

[Pat]

Me.

[Joe]

Just you.

[Pat]

Me and him.

[Joe]

You and Harvey.

[Pat]

Me and Harvey.

[Joe]

What's wrong with you?

[Pat]

I like to listen to what's going on.

[Joe]

You take notes?

[Pat]

No, no, it's just I don't feel trapped. I don't write about it. I just listen and get free lunch. Oh. We go to the place out at.

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[Pat]

at Ridgedale. Within the good spot, the ciao bello or whatever. But it's not Chow Bello but it's the same chain. So yeah, it's become an annual tradition I'll be dealing with about the last three, four years.

[Joe]

You know, make sure I get invited so I can say no, I can't come.

[Pat]

Yeah, well, he did want that dome to get built.

[Rookie]

Pat, earlier in GL, as Joe mentioned, we had Rob McClanahan on the show and we were talking about what a

[Pat]

great talker he is.

[Rookie]

We were discussing how Jack Hughes had lost a couple teeth but then went back in the game. And I said we discovered a similar fate here in GL when Joe lost a tooth in studio he and Rookie were looking for. Then he asked how do you know that's my tooth?

[Joe]

Why? And it sounded like people routinely lost teeth in here. I don't. It just didn't look like mine. Just didn't have that.

[Rookie]

I don't know if that's my.

[Joe]

Didn't have that feel. I don't know why McClanahan was in front of the net and got jammed and he in the mouth and he got back to the bench and he asked to who fits? Or whatever. Yeah, fits, fits. It's my tooth chipped. And he says, no, there ain't no tooth.

[Pat]

You know, they didn't wear mouth guards after back then, did they?

[Rookie]

Where is that photo with him?

[Pat]

Gary Smith was very good on the. On the Netflix thing.

[Joe]

Oh, isn't he? Yeah,

[Pat]

he's a walking encyclopedia on that team. And get Foof on though. Foof didn't get on.

[Rookie]

Oh really? I haven't seen it yet.

[Joe]

Poof.

[Pat]

Was there what, 25 PR guy probably. They're paying him 20 bucks a week.

[Rookie]

The photo of Hughes with the bloody guns with the flag, that's got to be one of the top photos of

[Joe]

Pat, how long do you think a baseball player would be out of action if he lost teeth? Well, fastball hit him in the mouth.

[Pat]

The hockey guys don't lose him as often as they used to.

[Joe]

Yeah, but he picked him up like he could reuse them the best.

[Rookie]

I forget who did this, but someone put on Twitter, if that happened to LeBron, the arena would be cleared out, and they'd have to get him out on a stretcher.

[Pat]

Yeah, well, I did not. He's not as bad as some of them.

[Rookie]

Oh, he's pretty bad, though. He loves to flop.

[Pat]

Oh, yeah. But they're all trying to get the officials to call foul. Yeah, so.

[Joe]

Well, you don't lose many teeth in basketball.

[Pat]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Joe]

But Tim rules did not do well last night.

[Pat]

They no showed. They had no Rudy, and they had no Nas Reed, and they basically let this Tyrese Maxey get any shot he wanted. He's pretty good. 39, and we just kind of. Kind of a disappointing effort. Now they go on the road for three games.

[Joe]

Are the 76ers in the playoff hunt?

[Rookie]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Pat]

But Embiid is he's been stealing money now for what, three, four years?

[Rookie]

Couple of years, yeah.

[Pat]

For sure. The great thing is, didn't he go play at the Olympics Embiid, and then not barely play.

[Rookie]

Oh, yeah. And he pretty much shut her down the rest of the season.

[Pat]

He played the summer Olympics, and then he. For us. Right. Didn't he play?

[Rookie]

I think so, yeah.

[Pat]

Because he's naturalized or something.

[Rookie]

Something like that, yeah.

[Pat]

And then he didn't play. By the way, why is Mexico so mad that we. That they killed the head of the cartel down there?

[Joe]

I think it's costume.

[Pat]

Is it all the cartel? Are these citizens also killing people or.

[Joe]

No, I think now when a henchman. When a. When a cartel boss gets killed, the cartels go nuts.

[Pat]

So the. The.

[Joe]

They're acting out against the government.

[Pat]

Thousands of employees are very upset. Right, okay. Well, it's an interesting situation, and I

[Joe]

was reading that some people might try to get a car and leave and go out and try to get back. I wouldn't do that. No, I'd wait right there.

[Pat]

I think I'll say stay there. And so. Because it was near Puerto Vallarta.

[Joe]

Right?

[Pat]

In Puerto Vallarta. Okay. And that's.

[Joe]

I could. I know exactly where. It's all. I was just there.

[Pat]

That's the old place that you.

[Joe]

It's a real town.

[Pat]

Yeah, I know, but it's kind of the original vacation spot. Yeah.

[Joe]

That Nakapo.

[Pat]

Yeah, but. Yeah, and Acapelco. But then Cabo came. Yeah, but you were in Parto Bolar.

[Joe]

Not this year, but recently. Yeah, with one of those cheap Christmas trips, you know, or 19 people.

[Pat]

Sure, but. So that's downtrodden enough now to be run by the cartel alone.

[Joe]

I don't know why the cartels would be there. Because the car they got. The unwritten law to leave the tourists alone.

[Pat]

But then when you kill the leader.

[Joe]

But the leader might have been living in. In Puerto Vallarta.

[Pat]

Okay. And that's the. The ungr. The. The written. The unwritten law is if you kill the leader, then we're going to raise hell.

[Joe]

We're done.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah. So you're in trouble.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Rookie]

Well, it's almost like when you get warned by an umpire. You know, the unwritten rules.

[Pat]

Yes, yes. If you. Now, if you go up high and tight after that, you're.

[Rookie]

You know, earlier you mentioned how early the spring training schedule is. I was looking because we have a late spring break this year. When they start spring game. The regular season is already underway.

[Pat]

Yes, September 20th. Their last exhibition game is March 24th.

[Rookie]

Yeah, and our spring break doesn't start till that.

[Pat]

And what I'm saying is the. The Spring breakers, who like to come down and hydrate at the baseball game and create some life around there and maybe come back and tell everybody how much they've had, how much fun they had at the ballpark. There's no games left.

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[Rookie]

Yeah, they're all done.

[Pat]

Bunch of idiots.

[Joe]

The Twins open the season in March, month of March. Where? Not here, I hope.

[Rookie]

I don't think so.

[Pat]

Not here. But they have 17 home games in April.

[Joe]

All for Pete's sake.

[Pat]

Yeah, baseball.

[Joe]

Are any of them night games?

[Pat]

I think about two weeks in about, you know.

[Rookie]

Give me just a second. I'll have your schedule for you, sir.

[Pat]

17 games in April.

[Joe]

Joe, that's too many.

[Pat]

First day game first.

[Rookie]

We open Thursday, March 26, at the Birds. We're going to Baltimore.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Rookie]

And then we're there until Monday.

[Pat]

Did they do the. Take Friday off, then place. What a bunch of crap.

[Rookie]

2 o' clock Thursday, no game schedule for Friday, 3 o', clock Saturday, 12:35.

[Pat]

To have a day off in the middle of your season. Opening series and then we go to

[Rookie]

Kansas City for three after that.

[Pat]

Oh, really? So we don't get home till when, then we're home forever.

[Rookie]

I think our home opener, the lid lifter, is a Friday, by the way,

[Pat]

once again, they have the Yankees. You know, we like to have the Yankees in town. They're going to. No matter how bad you are, you get the Yankees here in June, late June, early July, 4th, the. At least the third straight row. They're here on weekdays in the middle of September. Oh, God, yes.

[Joe]

They.

[Pat]

They. You know what? They don't care about us in the league office. First of all, nobody told them that we don't play in a dome anymore. And B, they, they don't. They don't really care about us people out here in the Midwest.

[Rookie]

Well. And why are we opening up at Baldwin More. Louisiana's got decent weather in March. You know, Texas has got decent weather in March.

[Pat]

They should always have that. But, but why are we opening in March?

[Rookie]

That's True, too.

[Pat]

Take eight games off the schedule and play 154 like they used.

[Rookie]

Or were you the guy that also said more double headers on Sundays? Were you in favor of that?

[Pat]

Not really.

[Rookie]

Oh, okay.

[Joe]

They don't exist anymore.

[Pat]

No, that's true. Well, they.

[Rookie]

Not the scheduled ones right now. Yeah.

[Joe]

There's no scheduled one, is there?

[Pat]

I don't know. Well, we don't have any. I don't think. But plus, Joe, when you schedule the double header here in 1968, you might be out there six hours.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Now, eight or nine, maybe. You know, that's. You know, even with the attempt to speed up, it's. It's still a much slower game than it used to be. I don't know. As a lifelong baseball fanatic, they've cured me. If I don't. If I miss an old ball game, it's going to be fine with me.

[Rookie]

Well, and as I explained, because we're trying to coordinate the Reavers baseball road trip for this summer, I said, boys, we better get one in this summer because there ain't going to be no season next year.

[Joe]

I don't think there will be.

[Pat]

I think you ought to take them to of Kansas City. Why does Kansas City think they need a new ballpark? What is wrong with that?

[Rookie]

What is wrong with their setup there is fantastic. With the football stadium right there. It's fantastic.

[Pat]

Yeah. I mean, parking and. All right, you get out there quick. They want to go downtown now. They might go over to Kansas where the football team is going.

[Rookie]

Oh, that's true. Yeah.

[Pat]

How about the Bears moving to Indiana?

[Joe]

Haymund, Indiana.

[Pat]

You know who's in charge, don't you?

[Joe]

No.

[Pat]

Kevin Warren, former Viking president, then Big Ten commissioner. Absolutely ruthless. Does not care about any tradition whatsoever. He's the guy that announced the. What did they call it? All the leagues, after the SEC expanded, they were gonna. They had this, what they call it. They had an agreement with the other major power conferences that they were going to work together. They were not going to be stealing teams from each other. But two weeks later, we took Oregon, Washington, Southern Cal and ucla. You know, so here's what I like though. The Big Ten has two rotten teams, basically teams that have brought zero to the Big Ten. Rutgers in Maryland. Ruth, right. Brought nothing, you know, and they got. And the ACC has California and Stanford.

[Rookie]

Right.

[Pat]

Why don't we trade? You know, then you could have six teams out west, you know, you could have your own Pacific coast division. And then they could have. They could have Rutgers in Maryland.

[Joe]

That makes more sense geographically.

[Pat]

Why don't we make a trade?

[Rookie]

But then you know what happens? We lose that New York market.

[Pat]

Oh yeah, because those Rutger fans, man, you can't hold them back. They're frothing at the mouth to watch football.

[Rookie]

Oh, you're so easy to fish.

[Pat]

Our nights are playing at 11am I gotta get up and watch him.

[Rookie]

Or how about this? The Rutgers is playing UCLA for a 7 o' clock kickoff out there. That's at 9:30 start time in New York. Or no, it'd be 10:30 in New York.

[Pat]

It's so stupid. How about our guy Nico, though? Do you watch any of the Rutgers games?

[Rookie]

No, I missed it.

[Pat]

They played. Rutgers stink. But they played great with six guys. They got six guys. They played great. But now they gotta go to Michigan. Michigan's mad. And they got about three 6 foot 11 guys that might not go over too well.

[Rookie]

And the gals finally lost.

[Pat]

Yes, they did. They got hammered.

[Rookie]

Michigan State, right?

[Pat]

Yeah, yeah, they got hammered. And anyway, what else? One more thing. We got one more thing.

[Rookie]

We just need you to sell us a car before we go.

[Pat]

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