MNST: The Vikings played in the absolute worst game in NFL history!!

Summary

Garage Logic: MNST — The Vikings Played in the Absolute Worst Game in NFL History!!

Podcast: Garage Logic
Host: Gamut Podcast Network
Date: December 23, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor") and the Garage Logic crew dig into an exasperated postmortem of what they overtly call "the worst game in NFL history" featuring the Minnesota Vikings. The conversation wanders from the state of the Vikings and their QB woes to a harrowing father-son NFL road trip, musings on Cleveland, a college football Cinderella story, and a humorous saga of aging knees. As always, the tone is a blend of dry Midwestern humor, sports grumbling, and nostalgic storytelling.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Worst NFL Game Ever: Vikings Disaster Recap

• The Game: Joseph (Producer) proclaims the Vikings game as "the worst game ever played in the history of the National Football League." (03:41)
• Vikings' Problems:
  • Joe: "There is no way that when they made the decision this summer that he was their quarterback, that they envisioned him being this sub mediocre." (04:56)
  • Discussion on injuries, notably the timid play of the current Vikings QB (aka “JJ”).
• QB Play:
  • Pat: “He went down like Carlo Gomez… someone touched his hand and he freaked.” (04:37)
  • JJ’s stats: “Eight and a half games, 71 passer rating, 11 TDs, 12 interceptions, only averaging 170 yards a game.” (04:56)
• Next Season's QB Prediction:
  • Pat: “Gentlemen, I have a prediction for you. The starting quarterback for the Vikings next year will be Kirk Cousins.” (05:38)
• Vikings’ Future & QB Dilemma: If their rookie doesn't play again, "you have to base all your future prognostications on judging him by eight and a half games." (06:05)
• The Modern NFL:
  • Joe: "It is amazing how football has kind of degenerated into: Do you have a quarterback or not?" (07:00)

2. Around the NFL: Games and Rivalries

• Green Bay vs. Chicago:
  • Joseph: “Did you happen to watch the Green Bay Chicago game Saturday night? That was an exciting game.” (07:55)
  • Pat highlights a wild field goal: “He basically aimed it at the right goal post and it floated over the other side… like my tee ball.” (08:31)
• NFL Fan Culture:
  • Pat tells of a trip to a Browns game, sits in the rowdy “Dog Pound”:
    • Pat: “My young kid's scarred for life.” (10:57)
    • “You're gonna hear some language. All right, so just make sure we don't repeat any of that.” (11:13)
  • The new Browns stadium to be built in the suburbs, Joe laments: “That's terrible. When Cleveland finally gets a team and now they're leaving downtown and going out to the suburbs.” (11:44)

3. Father-Son NFL Road Trip to Cleveland

• Trip Details:
  • Pat recounts a wild road trip: “Did you leave Saturday morning?... That’s not leaving early. That’s a ridiculous time to leave!” (10:08)
  • Browns game wind: “Mid-30s, wind was howling pretty good, sat in the dog pound.” (10:43)
  • Cultural observations and Cleveland as a city:
    • Pat: “That city is a dump.” (14:47)
    • Joseph: “But it's got a lake.” (14:49)
  • Passing by “A Christmas Story” filming location:
    • Pat: “The historic filming location of A Christmas Story.” (15:35)

4. College Sports: River Falls' Cinderella Run

• Local Football Pride:
  • Joe on River Falls: “The Fighting River Falls Falcons in the national championship game… on January 7th against North Central, which has won three of the last five finals.” (23:25)
  • Facilities: “They had a dump of a building, then they built a new $65 million facility.” (23:54)
  • Big game finish recounted: “It's 42, 42 within the final minute and they throw a 70 some yard touchdown pass to win.” (25:08)
  • Discussion on how half the student body are Minnesotans: “If you're a Minnesota kid, you go over there for… reciprocity.” (26:28)

5. NHL/Wild & Local Basketball Updates

• Wild vs. Colorado:
  • Joseph: “I've got two theories. One, the Wild were tired… and two, Colorado players love playing away from home because they can breathe easier.” (17:23)
  • Joe: “I have decided, being the bas hockey expert that I am… You got Caprisov and Baldy… four of the 25 best players in the league.” (18:28)
• Gopher Basketball:
  • Joe: “Last night, watching the Gopher basketball game, we brought in the Campbell Fighting Camels… I wonder if there were 2,300 [fans].” (21:15)
  • On past Gopher-Indiana games: “It was a precursor to a riot to come.” (21:48)

6. Knees, Old Age, & Gumption County Humor

• Joe’s Knee Surgery:
  • Ongoing saga about recovery and kvetching about physical therapy:
    • Joe: “These bendy exercises, they were not designed for 80 year old fat men… What if I won’t bend? Then what the hell do you do?” (02:45)
    • “I got news for you… if it happens to the other [knee], just cut it off.” (03:19)
    • On rehab: “To celebrate Christmas Eve morning, I get to go to the rehab place and have my knee bent in ungodly position.” (28:55)
• Advice from the old guard:
  • Joe: “I called up Mike Grant… He said, just move around.” (31:35)
  • Bud Grant stories:
    • “Are we going to do this every day?”—Bud, on rookie Wes Hamilton shaking his hand repeatedly. (32:37)
    • On hospital stays: “Finally they threw him out for his bad attitude.” (33:05)
    • “We did that last night.” – Bud again on repeat greetings. (34:27)
• General Old Age Humor:
  • Joseph: “Boy, I'm taking your counsel. I ain't having this done. Just cut it off.” (31:00)
  • Joe: “When you're 80 years old and chubby… you’re not supposed to have any bone left but bowl in your knee.” (31:06)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "The worst game ever played in the history of the National Football League." — Joseph (03:41)
• "There is no way... they envisioned him being this sub mediocre." — Joe on Vikings' QB woes (04:56)
• "My young kid's scarred for life." — Pat on the Cleveland Browns' Dog Pound (10:57)
• "That city is a dump." — Pat on Cleveland (14:47)
• "I have a prediction for you. The starting quarterback for the Vikings next year will be Kirk Cousins." — Pat (05:38)
• "If you knew, do you think I’d still be here?" — Joseph quoting a local on getting out of Cleveland (15:14)
• "Heavens no." — Pat, on not driving after drinking, tongue-in-cheek (14:20)
• "Are we going to do this every day?" — Bud Grant, on endless greetings from a rookie (32:37)
• "Finally they threw him out for his bad attitude." — Joe on Bud Grant at Mayo Clinic (33:05)
• "I called up Mike Grant. He just said, just move around." — Joe (31:35)
• "When you're 80 years old and chubby… you’re not supposed to have any bone left but bowl in your knee." — Joe (31:06)
• "You're playing with house money. You'll be out there doing a dance and the rest of us will be limping." — Joseph (31:21)
• "You fellas all have a pretty good Christmas." — Joe wrapping up (34:48)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:41: Declaration of the Vikings game as the worst ever
• 04:56: Discussion on Vikings' QB performance this season
• 05:38: Pat's bold prediction on Kirk Cousins’ return
• 07:00: Commentary on how central QBs are in today's NFL
• 10:57: Pat's “Dog Pound” story
• 11:44: Joe's lament for downtown Cleveland losing its team
• 15:14: Classic Cleveland joke
• 23:25: River Falls’ championship game run
• 28:55: Joe's Christmas Eve rehab appointment
• 31:06: Joe’s old-age knee wisdom
• 32:37: Bud Grant handshake story
• 33:05: Bud Grant kicked out of the hospital for “bad attitude”

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Tone and Style

True to Garage Logic tradition, this episode flows with a mixture of bemused resignation, affectionate razzing, blunt sports analysis, and hometown nostalgia, sprinkled with Midwestern self-deprecation and warm, rambling storytelling. The camaraderie is a draw in itself, with conversation ebbing seamlessly from NFL outrage to personal anecdotes and local quirks.

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This summary brings together all the essential content, personality, and humor of the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for anyone who missed the show.

Transcript

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[Joseph]

Hey, Pat.

[Joe]

Yes, Joseph?

[Joseph]

Is today better than yesterday on the old knee?

[Joe]

It's a little better. But these exercises they want you to do, these kind of really bendy exercises, they were not designed for 80 year old fat men. Somebody, they had somebody else in mind. I got news for you that. You know what they say you got to bend it. Well, what if I won't bend? Then what the hell you do? You know, what do you go out and. I don't know, I'm, I'm, I'm far behind on my exercises, let's just say that. So.

[Joseph]

Well, I predict you'll, you'll catch up.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, it might take an extra two weeks, but what the hell, you know, it's, it's. You know, there's something, Joe, that I would never do again. I can tell you that. I don't care what happens to the last one. They can cut it off the left leg. I did. Give me a crutch. I'll take it anytime. You know, one of those wooden peg legs would be mine.

[Joseph]

Well, I walked in your honor yesterday and it took about 40 minutes and I couldn't even. Even then I still saw enough of the Vikings game to proclaim it the worst game ever played in the history of the National Football League.

[Joe]

Now today I'm reading about how it was kind of a st. And we've had all the injuries. The team you were playing is now 2 and 13, right? They're 2 and trying to lose. Yes. And they have a quarterback that. You know, the most poorly named quarterback ever, Jason Dart. Jackson don't exactly throw darts or whatever.

[Joseph]

His name is, did he? What do you have about seven yards total?

[Pat]

33 passing yards. 33.

[Joe]

He made, he made our Vikings look pretty good. JJ. I, I added up all. Yeah, because he's done now. They're not going to bring him back, I'm sure from this latest.

[Joseph]

Well, he went down like Carlo Gomez on. I thought we had to bring a helicopter in. Somebody touched his hand and he freaked.

[Joe]

He was out at second base. Like, go, go. Yeah, go, go. Never once got up.

[Joseph]

No. I thought he was dead. Turns out he doesn't even have a broken bone.

[Joe]

No. Well, he might, might play again. But eight and a half games, he's got a 71 passer rating. He's got 11 TDs, 12 interceptions. He's only averaging 170 yards a game. Here's my point. Now, there is no way that when they made the decision this summer that he was their quarterback that they envisioned him being this sub mediocre. There's no way they envision this. They can say that it's development and everything else, but they wouldn't have done what they did and go out and get a offensive lineman and spend a bunch of money if they thought they had a quarterback who wasn't going to be able to win.

[Pat]

Gentlemen, I have a prediction for you. The starting quarterback for the Vikings next year will be Kirk Cousins.

[Joseph]

No, Andy Reid wants him.

[Pat]

Why would Andy.

[Joseph]

Because they don't think. What's his name, the Patrick will be ready.

[Pat]

Oh, I suppose, yeah, you might be.

[Joe]

Able to see that. Okay, I wonder. Well now he had like a couple of weeks ago he had a 300 yard game, right. But then he's had some other real stickers.

[Joseph]

Pat, here's the other question about McCarthy. If he doesn't play the rest of this year, you have to base all your future prognostications on judging him by eight and a half games. Now what do you do?

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, I, you're right. I mean, I think you just, I don't know, do you bring in the. Because if you bring in the alternate right next year you bring in the wily bet and he's going to play and this kid's going to learn for another year. He got three years done.

[Pat]

Right.

[Joe]

And then you gotta, you gotta decide whether you're picking up the fifth year or not. Right, right. He's only got a year he left. So I think if they, if they're still believe in themselves, they gotta come back next year with him.

[Joseph]

Well, here's what I tell Carlos Jr. You got no broken bones in your hand. Get your ass out there, you're playing the rest of the season.

[Joe]

Yeah, that I, I would agree with that. And I still think they were so rattled after Game 2 when he was so awful that when he got hurt there when he had the knee, they extended that, they extended that injury stay by about two weeks to try to, you know, he missed five weeks when it's probably should have missed two or three. And because it doesn't sound like it was a very serious thing. So I, I don't know. It's, it is, it is amazing what, how football has kind of degenerated Joe into. Do you have a quarterback or not?

[Joseph]

Right.

[Joe]

You know, I mean it's, it's, it's, it's the way things are now, I guess. I mean you look at, you look at New England now and, and why are they that much better than the Vikings? Because they got Drake May and you don't.

[Joseph]

So the. On the flip side of that, did you happen to watch the Green Bay Chicago game Saturday night?

[Joe]

Yes, quite a bit of it.

[Joseph]

That was an exciting game.

[Joe]

It was, yes. And it was nasty. And the Bears, man, the, you know, the packers, all those years with Rogers and stuff and they kind of figure.

[Joseph]

Out a way to win.

[Joe]

They figure out a way to lose team this year.

[Joseph]

So that was a hell of a throw to win that game. He threw it about four miles.

[Joe]

Yeah, he's a. He is a stud, that's for sure.

[Pat]

How about the kick that that Chicago kicker made with the wind? He basically aimed it at the right gold post and it floated over the other side.

[Joe]

It looked like my T ball, right?

[Pat]

Yes, that's exactly what it looked like.

[Joseph]

Lined up east to hit it north.

[Joe]

It was pretty fantastic to say the least.

[Pat]

But anyway, I have a report to file. Speaking of the NFL, the young man sitting in the next room, Joe and I. Because every year for his birthday he gets to pick a game to travel to or to go to.

[Joe]

Did you hear this?

[Pat]

Joe has no idea what I'm about to say. So it's got to work out when he's out of school, right? For travel purposes. And we decided to go to Bill's the Cleveland Browns yesterday.

[Joseph]

Kidding me and a sick human being.

[Pat]

Oh, it gets better.

[Joe]

He doesn't get on a jet airplane.

[Pat]

New. Let's pack up to Traverse and head east, son.

[Joseph]

When did you leave?

[Pat]

Saturday morning. Saturday morning. God in heaven, Joe, it gets better. So I say, well, the Browns winter.

[Joe]

In the dead of winter near Lake Erie when a blizzard can come in at any moment.

[Joseph]

Yep. Plus you got to drive through Chicago, which is the worst drive in America.

[Pat]

I was kind of surprised though, because we hit Chicago Saturday at about 7:30.

[Joseph]

8:00 clock at night.

[Pat]

No problem. We drove right. We drove right around.

[Joseph]

You didn't leave Saturday morning?

[Pat]

Well, 11 o', clock, 10, 10:30, 11 o' clock we left.

[Joseph]

That's not leaving early. That's ridiculous. Time to leave.

[Pat]

Well, we were going to have to spend the night somewhere anyway.

[Joseph]

Well, you should have left at 7 in the morning.

[Pat]

I'm sorry I didn't confirm that up. So we get.

[Joe]

When did. We should have CR called Joe and ask if you want to come along.

[Pat]

Oh, you want to come along next time.

[Joseph]

I can't do that. I have a thing.

[Pat]

So we stayed the night. We were just on the edge of Ohio and Indiana. I forget which town we stayed in. And then we made the rest the last two hours to get to the game. One o' clock kick, noon.

[Joseph]

One o', clock, Kickoff day. Right.

[Pat]

It was actually very nice. It was mid-30s. The wind was howling pretty good, though, off the lake. And I got a couple of tickets that I thought were really good, lower deck. And it turns out we sat in the dog pound with the Cleveland faithful. And so I've got.

[Joseph]

My young kid's scarred for life.

[Pat]

We're walking in, and I said, now remember, we're not at the Bill Stadium. So just, you know, just cheer, you know, a little bit. But no. And he's good. He's a good. He knows how to behave himself. And I said, you're gonna hear some language. All right, so just make sure we don't repeat any of that.

[Joseph]

Are you in an end zone?

[Pat]

Oh, yeah.

[Joseph]

The dog pound end zone.

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[Joseph]

Oh.

[Joe]

So, hey, that stadium is getting, what, like 25 years old?

[Pat]

They're building a new one in a.

[Joe]

I was gonna say, are they building a new.

[Pat]

Yeah, they're building a domed stadium in a suburb. I forget the name of the suburb.

[Joseph]

That's terrible.

[Pat]

Yeah, but that I kind of like.

[Joseph]

This one isn't on the lake, is it?

[Pat]

It's right on the water, the new one. Oh, yeah.

[Joseph]

Is it built on the side of the one that was torn down?

[Mishki]

I.

[Pat]

No, I don't think so. Here, I'll show you. This is.

[Joe]

Go ahead. That's terrible. When Cleveland finally gets a team and now they're leaving downtown and going out to the suburbs.

[Pat]

Because it's kind of neat how they have that set up where the ballpark is four blocks away, five blocks away, and the NBA arena is right next to the ballpark. So they're all pretty close to each other.

[Joe]

It's interesting, Joe. They built the. They built the basketball hockey arena out in the suburbs in Richfield, and they. People didn't want to come there, so they came downtown, you know, with the. Both those. With the team. And then now they're moving football out to the suburbs. That's too bad.

[Pat]

Two takeaways from that game very quickly. Shadur Sanders, Deion's kid, and Dion apparently was there, but they don't show him. He requested not to be shown on the. On the scoreboard. And so he gets hurt. They're driving against the Bills. He gets hurt.

[Mishki]

He.

[Pat]

And everyone's screaming, call timeout because they didn't they hate that Dylan or what is his name? Dylan Moore. Whatever the kid from Oregon's name. And the guys next to us were screaming some of the most the loudest obscenities at Stefanski. Say you bleeping moron, call. I'm thinking this is a 3 and 12 operation. This game is meaningless and is he.

[Joe]

Going to get fired?

[Pat]

Stefanski I listened to a little bit.

[Joe]

He was two time coach of the year.

[Pat]

The fans do like him and I think that might get him a pass in the fact that yes, he did win the coach of the year. But you know, the owner's crazy so who knows what he's going to do.

[Joseph]

Is Shedeur any good?

[Pat]

He played pretty well yesterday. I thought, well that's because.

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[Joe]

A place for my daughter to call home thanks to the VA home loan.

[Joseph]

A new lease on life.

[Joe]

The best healthcare team I've ever had is here at VA in education and.

[Elf Drew Ski]

The opportunity to open doors I never thought possible with my GI Bill.

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The financial support I need to manage.

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[Pat]

In about the third quarter the young man said, dad, it's getting a little hostile in here. Why don't think we should maybe go find another spot? But we ended up.

[Joseph]

How in the hell are you here today?

[Pat]

We left before the game was over. It's only an 11 hour drive. It's not that bad.

[Joseph]

Geez.

[Joe]

The fact that you have never fallen asleep on a freeway and killed yourself is amazing. Driving back from that. Because let's face it, I'm not suggesting that you would be having consumed alcohol when you got in the car.

[Pat]

Oh heavens no. Heavens no.

[Joe]

But the day before you left, there was a very good chance that you didn't get your eight hours. I would think.

[Pat]

Yeah, that's the only trick with, with road tripping is because. Yeah, I'm always worried that I'm going.

[Joe]

So.

[Pat]

Yeah. Sleep. I usually don't get a good night's sleep, that's for sure.

[Joseph]

Well, I mean you're to be commended on the one hand and you ought to have your head examined on the other.

[Pat]

I gotta tell you like that city, right?

[Joseph]

I do like Cleveland.

[Pat]

That city is a dump.

[Joseph]

But it's got a lake.

[Pat]

You like water?

[Joseph]

I like water.

[Joe]

Well, it was, you know, it's, it's. It has always been the. Ever since 30 years ago the local magazine did a story on visitors, baseball teams and what they like best about Cleveland. And their favorite restaurant was McDonald's.

[Joseph]

That's the old Red Smith line where some guy leans out his car window and asks a guy on the sidewalk trudging into the wind and the snow and said, hey, how do you get out of here? And the guy on the sidewalk said, if you knew. If I knew, do you think I'd still be here?

[Pat]

I'm gonna send you a photo too. Joe. Guess what? We walked by on the way back to the parking ramp.

[Joseph]

The Rock and Roll Museum.

[Pat]

No, that was a little too far away. The historic filming location of A Christmas Story.

[Joseph]

Oh, you saw the house?

[Pat]

Yeah, I took a photo. This is where the mall scene was shot. At the. The Cleveland. I think it's called the.

[Joseph]

Oh, it's great for the kids.

[Pat]

Oh, it was. It was pretty cool. Yeah, it was. It was a fun couple.

[Joseph]

The wife and the other kid didn't want to go.

[Pat]

Well, the little guy is a bit under the weather, so they decided to stay home.

[Joseph]

I see.

[Pat]

Yeah, they decided to stay home.

[Joe]

So, Joseph, I am very thrilled to hear that you're going to have a lot of good family time after Christmas and, and the whole crew of whom you have been such a supportive character through their college years. Family years, Very, very important to their success as both families and individuals are going to take you on a nice little holiday. Yeah.

[Joseph]

I'm a walking atm.

[Joe]

Oh, man. But it'll be fun.

[Joseph]

Yeah, sure. I think so.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Joseph]

I'm hoping I get a place to sleep.

[Joe]

Are you gonna wait? How long? When do we shut her down and, and come back on Garage Logic here and Monday night sports?

[Joseph]

Well, Garagelogic will start again January 5th.

[Pat]

We'll have fill in hosts next week, just depending on who's available to work, basically.

[Joe]

Oh, okay. Yeah. All right.

[Pat]

And then.

[Joe]

Well, I was just. I was just curious. Hey, what happened to our hockey team last night? Is Colorado that good?

[Joseph]

I got two theories. One, the Wild were tired. Three games in four days. Colorado was rested. And I now think that Colorado players love playing away from home because they can breathe easier.

[Joe]

Really? They're a step faster.

[Joseph]

Right. Because they're playing home games at 5,200ft.

[Joe]

Yes. Right.

[Joseph]

And they're sucking for air. And they get down to Minnesota and play. It's like heaven. Like playing outside in shimmy game. Shimmy game theory. Yeah.

[Joe]

And they look good.

[Joseph]

They control Colorado. Absolutely controlled every moment of that game.

[Joe]

That defenseman something, isn't he? Macker Maker or whatever his name is? He's he's fantastic. Well, they got the. They got McKinnon, who's one of the what top three or four. And then they got Macker Man McCarthy back on the back and they're, you know, there are two losses, two real losses in. I mean two what they call official regulation losses so far.

[Joseph]

I'm not worried about the lads. I still think they're to be taken seriously.

[Joe]

Oh, God, yes. I. I have decided, being the bas hockey expert that I am. You got. You got Caprisov and Baldy.

[Joseph]

Yep.

[Joe]

Baldi's great. And now you got Hughes and Faber.

[Joseph]

Yep.

[Joe]

You got four of the 25 best players in the league.

[Joseph]

Yep.

[Mishki]

Wow.

[Joe]

You know, favors. I mean, favor. What a revelation he's been, man.

[Joseph]

And Atkins, he's pretty up there.

[Joe]

Oh yeah.

[Joseph]

And they got two goalies who just make each other better.

[Joe]

Yeah. One of them has, you know, let's in four one night and they can play the other guy two games in a row or something.

[Joseph]

Why they play in Nashville? I think it's tomorrow at 5pm what the hell? Why is that a 5pm starting time on a Tuesday?

[Pat]

Is it here? Yeah, that is a good question.

[Joe]

Probably Christmas Eve thing. I don't know. Maybe Nashville, Maybe downtown Nashville at this time of year turns into quite the. Quite the party during the holidays if this game's here. Oh, really?

[Mishki]

Okay.

[Joe]

Must be tv. You know, what we are, you know, what we are seeing though with this compact schedule is the. The Olympic effect. Because they're not playing. You know, look at February. What do they got? Three games? Something like that.

[Joseph]

Let me double check this game tomorrow in your four page sports section. With the three o' clock in the afternoon deadline, they could. They didn't even have the Wild score.

[Joe]

Oh God, no. Not even close.

[Joseph]

The game was over at 7:30.

[Joe]

Joe, December 28th, deadline dead drop dead. 5:00pm when they start printing Des Moines.

[Joseph]

I really want to get rid of the print version, don't they?

[Joe]

Yes, they do. I told you three weeks ago. You know, you ever get one of those late flies? You know, I'm sorry.

[Joseph]

I'm sorry. I made a mistake. Nashville, 7:00pm tomorrow night. What I was noting is it's not on TV unless you have that ESPN plus deal.

[Joe]

Why? No, no, no, no, no. You gotta have regular Hulu, Hulu and ESPN plus Hulu. Okay, I think we got Hulu.

[Joseph]

We got Hulu.

[Joe]

You can find it. I don't know why I got a hulu. It's like 180 bucks or some damn thing. I don't Know.

[Joseph]

But then they're off until Saturday night at hated Winnipeg.

[Joe]

Winnipeg is. We've kind of passed them up, haven't we? They had a couple of pretty damn good years, but.

[Joseph]

And that's a 6pm start Saturday in Winnipeg.

[Mishki]

Yep.

[Joe]

So the other night, last night, watching the Gopher basketball game, we brought in the Campbell Fighting Camels. Right. And this is part of the non conference schedule that we're playing. And I wonder if there were 2300. Did you watch it at all?

[Pat]

I didn't. I did not. I did see, but I.

[Joseph]

On the road.

[Pat]

I was on the road, but I did see the night that they beat Indiana. It looked like they had a decent crowd.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat]

Well, it's a conference game, I get it. But yeah.

[Joe]

Or something like that. It wasn't exactly, you know, this is Nico's first Big Ten game against Indiana. Williams Arena. It wasn't exactly like Muscle's first Big Ten game against Indiana when they had 19,000 in there. And Bobby chased the officials off the court down the steps at the end of the game. 5150 Gophers. And it was. It was, you know, it was a precursor to a riot to come. But that one wasn't.

[Joseph]

Let me get back to Reaver's road trip a minute.

[Mishki]

Oh, boy.

[Joseph]

Two questions.

[Pat]

Sure.

[Joseph]

How'd you get tickets when you got there? Yeah, just off the street. I know.

[Joe]

I would imagine. Joe, when you're three and 13 or something, you don't have to worry about buying tickets.

[Joseph]

It looks sold out.

[Pat]

I looked at the. Just out of curiosity, because I was given a pair of tickets. I'll just put it that way. But I was looking at the secondary market. Just out of curiosity. You could have got in for about 20 bucks yesterday. And here's the problem. The drive from western New York to Cleveland is about three hours. That place was 65% Bills fans.

[Joseph]

And second question. What time did you get home yesterday?

[Pat]

So we drove back. We stayed the night in Wisconsin. It was Black River Falls or River Fall, whatever that's called. Yeah, we stayed there and then we drove here because I was gonna take him home in the morning and then come here, but we got that ice storm, so. 94.

[Joseph]

So you and your lad have come right to this studio from Cleveland.

[Pat]

Correct.

[Joseph]

I'll be damned. Yep.

[Joe]

Speaking of the River Falls.

[Pat]

Oh, yes, yes.

[Joe]

The Fighting River Falls Falcons in the national championship game, Division 3 in Canton, Ohio, I believe on. On January 7th against North Central, which has been North Central down in Illinois, which has been in. Has won three of the Last five finals and lost the. This would be their sixth straight final I think.

[Joseph]

Is this River Falls first appearance in the final?

[Joe]

Yes. They, they got a coach named Matt Walker. He came in there in 2011. They had a dump of a building. They had seven losing seasons, bad losing seasons in seven or eight years and they kept with him. Then they built a new $65 million facility for their athletics that opened in 2017. And they, Joe, they have, they have 118 players that I counted up and 66 Minnesotans, most of them from the metro area. And the quarterback, Caleb Blaha is going to be the Division 3 Player of the year. He's a friendly kid and he's, you know, he's a, he went to Wynonna and the pandemic hit and then he came up there and he got hit last year. So he's, he's a six year guy. He got hurt last year, so he's a six year guy. But, but they're, they, they packed him in over there like three weeks in a row to play. And, and that game, you can see the video of the winning touchdown. It's 42, 42 within the final minute and they throw us what, 70 some yard touchdown pass to win the game.

[Pat]

I have a.

[Joe]

To a kid from Wood the way catches the bass, Pat.

[Pat]

I have, as you know, I have a niece that plays tennis at River Falls and I got a video sent to me of the student section. It looked like it was a pretty packed and festive house that day for that kid.

[Joe]

Do they sneak a alcoholic beverage in? Maybe a little.

[Pat]

Oh, these are college kids, Pat, on campus. I mean I gotta imagine that they wouldn't do a thing like that. I can't imagine.

[Joseph]

What's that new football stadium at River Falls hold?

[Joe]

Well, the stadium is not new, but it is remodeled a little bit. But the facility where they have all their athletics, hockey rink, you know, the workout rooms for the football team and everything is a new building. Falcon center that was built in 2017, you know, has changed there because they've apparently had the worst facilities in North America before that. So. And if you're a Minnesota kid, you go over there for the, what do they call that when they, you know, when they, they, they pay the same reciprocity Wisconsin kids reciprocity. Yes, that's it. Yes. And they got a lot of. I think the student body over there is damn near half Minnesotans.

[Joseph]

Yeah, well hell, you could commute.

[Joe]

I wrote something about it a month ago or so. It's. If you Go to Allianz. Let's Alliance Field, the middle right up the street from us. That's the middle of the Twin Cities, right? That's the Midway. It's 33 miles to the River Falls Stadium. The closest team that plays football at the state university, you know, not the Gophers, obviously, but the state university is MANKATO, which is 88. So it's, I mean, it's, it's our hometown. It's basically the Twin Cities hometown university. Except you got the border in there.

[Pat]

I was telling somebody, Pat, this because we always have a, we always play at the River Falls ballpark every year. The guy that runs our team is buddies with the guy that runs their team. And in any event, they said, you're going to go all the way to Wisconsin to play a game. I said, I get there from this building in 35 minutes. It takes me an hour to get to Faribault.

[Joe]

No, yeah, it is, it's quick. And they, they're having a, they're having a good time over there. They're good, good folks too. I mean, the coaches, the coaches, they hired him from depa, which is, you know, they, they have the big rivalry with Wabash and they've played each other for 100 and some years. The longest, the longest rivalry. But he came up here as the, as the, as the football coach in 2011. And he's got four kids, he's got three older kids. And then I, when I called him a couple weeks ago, he said, I'll call you back. I'm at my son's hockey game. You know, it's youth hockey game. Well, the poor guy's got a six year old hockey player who came along. He said, he said he got caught in the pandemic. He and the wife got caught in the pandemic. And here came another kid about six, seven, eight years later than the others. So then I said, well, you got a lot of hockey games to go to with that kid if you're going to a kid at 6 years old.

[Joseph]

Let's get the schedule here. When is your next exercise appointment? Today at home. When are you supposed to do it?

[Joe]

There's no schedule at home. Tomorrow I see the doc who did the surgery. And then on Christmas Eve to celebrate Christmas Eve morning, I get to go to the rehab place and have my knee bent in ungodly position. So we'll see that that happened the first time last week, like Thursday or so. It wasn't bad. You know, I didn't feel bad. And then Friday morning I couldn't move. So it's.

[Joseph]

Well, they probably tell you you gotta keep moving.

[Joe]

Oh, God, yes. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. You know what? I'm wishing this was a bad time of year to get it, because I think if you would, if it was summer, you could just walk around a block. Yeah, yeah. Get some exercise. But I don't think going out on the icy road and taking a fall would be a good idea.

[Mishki]

No.

[Pat]

How about for Christmas, the DA gets you a peloton. You know, the little stationary bike. You know, you can do some. Some movement that way.

[Joe]

They had me on. Hey, that was peloton, though. They had me on one of those bikes and I was going like crazy. Well, they too easy. There's no pressure on them, you know.

[Pat]

Wait, you were on a peloton?

[Joseph]

You can adjust the pressure.

[Joe]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Joseph]

Yeah, yeah, they got a knob. You make it harder, I mean.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, maybe. I don't know know. I will. We'll get through this eventually. And then.

[Joseph]

Well, I have no doubts. I have no doubts. I just want you to keep moving.

[Joe]

Yeah. Oh, I've been moving. I'm moving. I. In fact, I moved my whole operation from the upstairs room to all the way down to the dungeon because it's easier to set up. I got one of these ice machines, but I think that's, that's. That's run its course too, you know, as far as helping with the swelling and stuff like that. But I think I got, I got, I got down there in the quiet of the dungeon and slept a little bit. One of my biggest problems, I wasn't getting any sleep, doing two hours max.

[Joseph]

Boy, I'm taking your counsel. I ain't having this done. Just cut it off.

[Joe]

It's. I. I think that, you know, when you're 80 years old and you're chubby and you've been walking around, you're not, you're not supposed to have any bowl left. You're not supposed to have anything left but bowling your knee, you know, what the hell?

[Joseph]

Well, you're going to be playing with house money. You'll be out there doing a dance and the rest of us will be limping.

[Joe]

Well, I'm not sure. I'm not betting him on that. It's. I called, you know, I called up for advice. He's had two of them.

[Joseph]

Yeah, Mike.

[Joe]

Mike Grant. Yeah, I called up my grant. He said, ah, just move around. He said, yes, keep moving. He was. Started telling some fun stories. I sent one of Them to you.

[Joseph]

Yeah, I know. I got a kick out. You better tell that one.

[Joe]

Yeah, I think it was Wes Hamilton who played at Wayzata, right? And Wes was a rookie down there, drafted him. He was a good player for a while. And as they're going upstairs to the dinner there, you know, Buds get. Bud's in the elevator there, and Wes happens to come at the same time, and he. You know, this is like the first day Buddy hardly even met him, you know? And he reaches over and he shakes Buds. He gets Bud to shake his hand and say, bud, blah, blah, blah, Wes Hamilton. And next day, the timing is the same. Wes walks in the elevator, Bud standing there, and Wes reaches out to shake his hand. And Bud looks at him and says, are we going to do this every day?

[Joseph]

Tell the one about Bud at the hospital.

[Joe]

Oh. Oh, yeah. He was. No, he was at St. Mary's down there. Mayo. You know, his connection with Mayo. And he was in there for. He was in there for something. And he was in a bad mood. And they kept asking him how he felt, you know, as the nurses come in and say how you felt. And he told them truthfully. And finally they threw him out for his bad attitude.

[Joseph]

He had to leave the hospital.

[Joe]

He was through. I mean, you know, you can do this at home. You know, he was too grumpy.

[Pat]

So you're saying if Bud had walked up to the bank teller and she had asked if he had big plans for the weekend, that might not have gone over well?

[Joseph]

That wouldn't have worked well with Bud. Or you'd say, I have another auction.

[Joe]

Who was Lynn's first sponsor? Corporate sponsor. Remember Frito Lay? Right. Wasn't it. I don't know. Remember that?

[Joseph]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Remember that? Like, at first, we had a Frito Lee Lay extra point. And we had a. You know, we. I mean, God, remember late 80s, we didn't have any of this stuff, right? We didn't have any corporate sponsors. And I think it was Frito Lay. And they had a little Reception for about 25 Frito Lay guys down at Mankato for training camp. I've told this story before, but one night, and they're at a reception, and Bud shows up and he talks to everybody, and he's got. Next morning, he comes down for breakfast, and he's walking through the hall at 7am and this guy comes. Bud walks over, met you last night. And shooks out his hand. And Bud says, we did that last night.

[Joseph]

I can just see him saying that.

[Joe]

Oh, my God, yes, yes.

[Joseph]

With those.

[Joe]

With those Steely eyes. It's funny though. Like I guess all of us old people, man, when he was, when he got older and you started a conversation, you couldn't shut them up.

[Mishki]

Up.

[Joe]

Yeah, it just kept going and going and going.

[Joseph]

Well, that should wrap it up, Pat. All right.

[Joe]

You, you fellas all have a pretty good Christmas. I'm not supposed to sell a car here, am I right?

[Pat]

If you'd like, yeah, we could certainly do that for Jim Paul's Valley group of GM dealers.

[Joe]

Yeah, I don't, I don't think it's too late for Christmas to you.

[Pat]

Oh, heavens no.

[Mishki]

Hell no.

[Joseph]

You drive one home today, you're out.

[Joe]

There, you head out Cedar avenue right now, 147th street, take a right. Jim Paul and Brett Falls valley group of GM dealers. A lot is out there full of SUVs. Buick SUVs of all varieties, GMC. And here's the deal. Low interest rates. High, low interest rates and high factory rebates. Real good financial people out there. They'll make it happen for you. These Buick SUV's that I'm see them all over now and they're, they're terrific. They're beautiful machines. And there's a variety of, variety of sizes. And you go to, you go to your kids hockey game and look in the parking lot, there'll be about 25 of them among 150 cars there. So that's the way to go. And Jim Paul's is the place to do it. Apple Valley, 147th street and take a right. Cedar to 147th, take a right.

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