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Everybody talked about it since I first moved to Oregon. The big one. The earthquake that trashed the whole West Coast. Total destruction.
Patrick Ricey
Officially calling it the largest natural disaster in American history.
Narrator
I just didn't know what would help me next. So I took it all. Even the gun. It was time.
Joe
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Pat
Jeez, it's hard.
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Joe
And. Pat is Joel.
Pat
Saturday night's hockey game was as fine a game as a hockey team can play.
Patrick Ricey
Boy, they dominated them.
Joe
And without the Eck monster, who's one of their.
Pat
Do we know what's wrong with him?
Joe
He gets hurt a lot. But they always. Lower body, I believe.
Pat
Right?
Joe
Lower body.
Pat
Well, at least it ain't a concussion.
Mark Ellis
No.
Joe
But yeah. I think they're better than Colorado.
Pat
They can be.
Joe
I think they're Better in goal. They.
Patrick Ricey
They don't know which wood they want to play. They got the Wedgwood and the Blackwood,
Joe
and I thought Blackwood was playing, but it was Wedgwood for the first game, and then they pulled him in the middle of the game.
Pat
Plus, they humiliated him.
Joe
Yes, they beat him. They beat him bad.
Pat
No, no, the coach humiliated him by
Joe
taking him out during the game. Yeah. Middle of the game.
Pat
It just shows you, though, that these players. I think hockey's having a. What's globally or. What's the word I want culturally or something. It's having a day. They've been more popular than ever, and these outside crowds are bigger than ever. The people that can't get into the building. And I predict the Wild will play the same way tonight.
Joe
Now. And I'm very fearful that if the Wild, like, keep advancing, we're going to have those people standing out on the street just like a bunch of morons
Pat
we did Saturday night.
Joe
Oh, did they on West 7th?
Pat
Yes.
Joe
Oh, God.
Pat
There was giants greens out there.
Joe
Really? Oh, so the Wild are now selling drinks, then? Are they trying to sell drinks? No, I think money away from the.
Pat
No, no, no. These are people, just not in the building.
Joe
Okay.
Pat
The Wild aren't out there selling beer.
Joe
I'll just. Well, they did one year. A few years back, they had a stand down there. You got. You can't do that to those people on West 7th who die all year long. And then. I know.
Pat
And the brilliance of Hughes continues to astonish me.
Joe
He had a pretty.
Pat
Just astonishing man.
Joe
A pretty good game.
Pat
That movie made the score where he's skating sideways. Sideways.
Joe
Yeah, he's something to put himself in
Pat
a lane where he sees an opening,
Joe
goes, well, plus, the Russian showed up.
Pat
He really showed up.
Joe
He showed up.
Pat
He's the only guy who can score when there's no angle.
Patrick Ricey
You can.
Joe
They can go all the way. If he plays like that, they can beat everybody.
Pat
You know, I heard an interesting theory about him. See if you agree with this. Cause I'm debating myself. I don't know if I do. The person who told me this was questioning his reliability on a consistent basis. The person who told me this was saying, you know, some games he's a little off, and some games he's really there. And the theory was, you know, he's never been allowed in international competition. You can't be. You know, the Russians weren't in the Olympics. And he's. Who told. The guy who told me this, I'm thinking, I wonder if there's something to that. That you look at Faber and Hughes plan for the America in the Olympics. They took it seriously. It was a big deal. And they won. And this poor, poor Kirill was down in fish.
Joe
He went back home.
Pat
He went home.
Joe
That's why I don't trust him.
Patrick Ricey
He's out of Russia.
Joe
Why does he go home? If it's a gal, you know, he's got enough money to fly her over here. You know, I don't get it.
Sports Analyst
But if it is a gal, I mean, can you blame him?
Pat
I'm not questioning his. I'm not questioning his brilliance. He's a hell of a player.
Joe
Sometimes. I'm sure that they have two guys whacking him with sticks, you know, for a period. And he gets a little. Gets a little gloomy, but, boy, was he good.
Pat
Oh, was he.
Joe
He was flying. They're better.
Pat
They.
Joe
People tell me I'm crazy, but I think they're better.
Pat
Well, Hughes is better than Makar and close and. And Kirill can be better than their forward. What's the. No, no. Who's the guy? I'm thinking of their guy. McKinnon.
Sports Analyst
McKinnon.
Joe
Not David. What am I talking about? They're pretty even. McKinnon's a monster.
Pat
What the hell? Is somebody going to have to pay Hughes, and it better be the Wild? Well, what is going to.
Joe
They're playing Caprice off 17. He's worth more than that.
Pat
Hell, yes.
Joe
And I don't think you can pay them both, so I don't know. Hopefully they can. I would think. There's teams right now trying to clear enough cap space so they can sign Hughes and his brother and bring them together and something. You know, supposedly that Jack is really good, too, and he. They want to play together, but I don't buy it. I think he'll. You win a cup here, you just got to figure out how to pay him. I don't know how you do it, but you know what? Here's my theory. There's like, five, six guys that are. Guys that are unreplaceable, above and beyond. And the rest of them are bodies. Yeah, the rest. You get a bunch of bodies and get the superstars out there and go for it. That's.
Pat
Well, Faber's a superstar.
Joe
Oh, God. He's getting. He has. He had a little. I remember going over there before the Olympics, like, two weeks before the Olympics, and Judley or somebody said, boy, the last month. He looks burned out, man. Or maybe when he first came back. But since he's recovered since the middle of March, he's been fantastic. He's way better than I thought.
Pat
You know, Faber's a superstar. Hughes is a superstar. Kaprisov's a superstar.
Joe
X. Very good.
Pat
X. I'm gonna put him as superstar and Bold a super. I think, I think they have five superstars and maybe a goalie, you know, that's a superstar.
Joe
Said this last week. But Bill Garon should really feel guilty that he's got Baldi signed through 20, 30 for 7 million a year. God Almighty, a thief. I told him, you got to go to confession.
Sports Analyst
The cheap Leopolds.
Joe
He's no, he's a good Catholic boy, Garen.
Sports Analyst
Okay?
Pat
He got to go to mass every day and say, I'm sorry.
Joe
God, he's a mess going.
Pat
I took food from his family.
Joe
You know, I, I might have, I might have swore in a bar. I might have swore a couple of times when the other team scored. And yes, I, I, I robbed a very fine young man out of a lot of money.
Pat
And there's probably no trade in there, is there?
Joe
Huh? No.
Pat
You think Boldi has a trade clause? I mean, what's Bully gonna do when he sees Everybody else making 17 million?
Joe
Oh, no, he signed it. He signed it.
Pat
You know, they're a fun, They're a fun. I hate to use this word because you hate it. They're a fun group.
Joe
They are a fun group. They're always the group. Yeah, the room. They're good in the room.
Pat
They are good.
Joe
Everybody uses room now. Yeah, hockey used room 30 years ago.
Pat
I told you.
Joe
But now we got the quarterback room and the receiver room. And I told you, the kicker, we got holders room.
Pat
You know, Man, Nassau County Coliseum during the playoffs, the, the North Stars are playing the Islanders. The Pope gets shot, they all look up at the TV and go, they got him in his own room.
Joe
Yes. Right. Yes. I like this Pope. This Pope's a good Pope.
Pat
Well, you like him because he's a, he's a strong lefty. Well, they're supposed, that's where it's supposed to be.
Joe
Yeah, they're supposed to root for everyone. Yeah, we don't care about those guys that are getting killed and pack. Yeah, they're poor. We don't care about them, you know?
Pat
No, he's, he's fun to have an American Pope.
Joe
Yeah, it is. It's fun to have a. Do you. Did you realize his mother. I didn't realize his mother was what, the Heishi?
Pat
Haitian.
Joe
Haitian, whatever. That there's a, the, what the hell Are you talking about she's from somewhere in the Dominican.
Pat
Look it up, Reeves.
Sports Analyst
What am I looking up?
Pat
The Pope's mother.
Sports Analyst
Okay.
Joe
Pope's mom is from somewhere. One of those.
Pat
I got a picture of a kid. Of a kid I used to have standing in the Pope's front yard of the house in South Chicago. The kid was playing a ball game there, so they went to see the house.
Joe
Okay. Now, is. That's not the one the brother still lives in, is it?
Pat
No, I think the brother's got his own house.
Joe
Okay. That's my favorite Pope moment, when he calls him up and says. He calls them up, and they're just like. You talking to Paul. Yeah, yeah. And he says, hey. He says, why didn't you. The Pope says, why didn't you answer? I called before. And the guy says, well, there's a. There's a reporter here.
Pat
Yeah.
Joe
And he said, he's there right now. Yeah. And the Pope says, I'll call you back.
Pat
Yeah.
Joe
And he never said, oh, your holiness. He's talking to his brother.
Sports Analyst
As of 2026, Pope Leo's mother, Mildred Agnes Martinez Prevost, was born in Chicago. Her background is from Dominican Republic, Haiti, and also there's some New Orleans roots there as well. The family moved from the 7th Ward of New Orleans to Chicago shortly before her birth.
Joe
They got some wards down there in Chicago that have. Have pretty great, you know, backgrounds of that, you know, they. They believed in. They had some parades with ghouls and devils. Yeah, stuff like that, you know.
Pat
So, anyway, tonight they'll tie the series, I hope.
Joe
I think so. I think so. I. You know, the. The odds are bad against you, but my theory is what? So what if they won the first two, you win the next two, then. Then the pressure's back on.
Pat
Plus, they went directly from Dallas into that series, basically, and. And Colorado have been terribly rested. Not in the wild before last Saturday night, skiing. They had a good three days off, so that made all the difference in the world.
Joe
There's a little violence in this series, but there's more violence in the Timberwolf series.
Pat
You know, before. Before Wemby got kicked out, I was wondering, can a player be evicted from a. From an NBA game? Well, the answer is yes.
Joe
When you go, boom.
Pat
He saw him.
Joe
He did.
Pat
He looked at him.
Joe
He looked at him and banged him off. So, you know, the. The NBA used to be great because that. They had the rule that.
Pat
I used to know the rules.
Joe
The locker. Yeah. But for us, the locker room door had to open 10 minutes after the game, Brian McCaffrey, we were out there. I was there the. For game three, and it was 20, 25 minutes, really. And I'm sitting there and I'm looking at the stat sheet and down. And this. This. This shadow comes by me and I look up and it's Wembiani without his shirt on and going through the locker room door to go back in the locker room. And it's the damnedest thing you ever. I mean, he's seven foot six. He's unbelievable how tall he is.
Pat
You know what Jaden said?
Joe
I did what he.
Pat
Tall as bleep.
Joe
Yeah, right. Yeah, he did. Jaden's pretty good. I have.
Pat
That kid is so grow on me. He. I think he's the real deal.
Joe
Yeah. Yeah. Well, Ant was funny talking about him, too, after, when they lost game three here. He says, they said, ant, you had trouble finishing today. He says, yeah, he's a guy 7 foot 6, running around the lane there. That makes it a little harder.
Pat
You know,
Joe
he's.
Pat
Would they have won that game last night with Wemby?
Joe
I'm sure they would have. I mean, they got eight behind after he got thrown off.
Pat
Right.
Joe
You know who played great last night? Nas. Nas played great. Anthony played great.
Pat
I thought Nas would end up looking like a civil. One of those Civil War wounded guys
Joe
with bandages on him, elbow in the face and. Yeah, and he got knocked down, but that. It. You know, they used to talk about the bad boys from Detroit. Now they being beat everybody up. Beat everybody up. But, man, these games are so physical now. There's no, you know, there's. It's that line between that's a foul and maybe that's not a foul. It's the.
Pat
Well, here's what I can't.
Joe
Here's contact going on.
Pat
Here's what I can't take.
Joe
Yes.
Pat
Jokic and Rudy, for example, can be leaning on each other and grunting and shoving and pushing and how do you decide which. And then some guy goes and shoots a three and somebody's finger touches his arm. And that's a foul.
Joe
Yes. Well, which is it? That's. I would like to know what the guidelines are. Me, too. I would like to go to the. When they have the big meeting with the officials before the season starts, and they got somebody in there trying to describe to them what's a foul and what's not a foul. And when they go to New York to review a file, which I hate, but. And to see if they can get it changed or not, it's yeah. Okay.
Patrick Ricey
Yes.
Joe
He's bodying up. He's pushing him. But it didn't go to the point of being a.
Pat
Well, okay, then there's another. Maybe there's another way to look at this that the referees are amazing. They are trying to control. Well, how long is a basketball game? 48 minutes.
Joe
Yeah.
Pat
They're trying to control 48 minutes of utter chaos.
Joe
Yes, you're right. Yes.
Pat
And maybe they do a miracle job of it.
Joe
It's easier to call penalties in hockey. I know when a guy's tripped, Right? Yeah, right. Yeah, right.
Pat
They even got signs for it.
Patrick Ricey
Well, the good thing about hockey is
Joe
you can hit a guy and hold him up.
Pat
Right.
Joe
Just can't do it with a stick or something.
Pat
Maybe the. Maybe the NBA guys are really, really good at what they do, you know, because the game has outgrown its original architecture. Be longer and wider.
Joe
Yeah, they're not gonna do that because they have to get rid of seats. But it's. It's. It's just a war, man. It's ant was.
Pat
And they're lucky they don't kill each other.
Joe
Oh, they're not wearing pads. No. And they're.
Pat
They don't have helmets on.
Joe
They're up in the air and they gotta come down. Yeah. At some point.
Pat
Yeah, you got to come down.
Joe
That's right. It's. It is a busy. But the crowd, you know, I really. There were some people. Ants missed what, 16, 17 games this year. A lot of injuries. He had. Didn't have a great regular season. He had a good regular season. Some idiots, they show up at the game for the playoffs the other night, and he makes a basket and they're shouting mvp. They're chanting MVP up there. We did that last year. Shut up.
Sports Analyst
And I think he's technically ineligible.
Joe
He is a ineligible that. He did win it last year when he was great. Shut up. Go to the game and have some idea what you're watching, you jerks.
Pat
Hey, do you have the. The coating on your garage floor or you just got a regular concrete floor?
Joe
I think we had something on there.
Pat
Yeah. You're standing in your garage right now. You're looking at the floor. It looks like grief, man. You. You got to get a hold of. You gotta get ahold of some people and get that taken care of. And the people I'd get ahold of is installed Building Solutions. They do a polyure garage floor that handles everything. And it's not the old school stuff that I got 20 years ago. This stuff will not peel up. From hot tires or it won't crack with temperature swings. A coated garage floor just feels better. It's cleaner, brighter, you can clean it. It's more finished in every way and you know that every time you walk on it, it's non slip. They do it all. It's called installed building solutions. I met these guys, they're fantastic. They're the real deal and I would get ahold of them because you know the garage is part of a house and you got good cars and stuff. You want the finish to stay bright and clean looking. It doesn't yellow over time. Installed Building solutions just go to IBS coating.
Joe
One word. Yes, it's clean too.
Pat
You drop oil on, you clean it up with a paper towel.
Joe
That's what I need.
Pat
My floor is looking IBS IBS coding.com one word IBS coding.com that IBS stands for installed building solutions and they're the best. Thank you ibs. All right,
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Pat
In the meantime, the Twins are. They're in a division where they're never going to be out of it.
Joe
Well, they.
Sports Analyst
Well, another week went by. We lost another starting pitcher.
Joe
Yes.
Pat
Yeah, but it turns out that Ryan was not destined for Tommy Jones.
Joe
No, no, he was somebody. You know, people go. People have like a fringe website that they're commenting on baseball or some other sport and they will put absolutely Sources are telling me that Tommy Joe Ryan, you know, you put that on at 9:00 in the morning, it's a complete lie. There's no sources. But you get hits. That's what counts.
Pat
Well, that's why I don't follow it too much. No, I can't take it.
Joe
But by the way, I have gotten the answer to my question because Saturday's game, they got two hits, both by Buxton, and they won the game. I asked the question because I didn't know where to go find it. I wonder, in our long and glorious 66 season history, how many times the Twins have won a ball game with two hits and they both came from the same person? Zero. This is the first time. Wow.
Pat
Isn't it the first time in all of baseball?
Joe
It was a first time that. I'm not sure what it was, but it wasn't the same. It wasn't the same.
Pat
Was that the Saturday game?
Joe
Yeah.
Pat
And then yesterday they lost.
Joe
No, they won yesterday.
Pat
They won yesterday. See, I was late in the paper, so I didn't get the scores.
Joe
It was late. Well, we have a nice story in there today on the 1. Did you, by the way, before you picked up the paper, did you know the Wild had won on Saturday?
Pat
Yes, they did.
Joe
Okay. Well, we gave it pretty damn good coverage here two days later.
Sports Analyst
Apparently this did happen previously. August 4th, 1982. Joel Youngblood had the only two hits for the New York Mets in a day game at Chicago.
Pat
But what did they win?
Sports Analyst
Oh, okay. That's what I put in there.
Joe
I want them to win. All right.
Pat
I don't think it's been done with a victory.
Joe
Maybe not. Maybe not. Pretty. Pretty rare. Bucks having a hell of a year considering two years ago. Well, he'll never play the outfield again. We got to let him be a DH and hit.250.
Sports Analyst
And he got out to a slow start this year.
Pat
Somebody made a decision to just play him.
Joe
Yeah, play boxed and boxed. Boxed last year said, put me in center field, let's go works. And he's. And he's still the fastest man in baseball. He's got a stride for me to you across his table. It's unbelievable. So. But boy, there's. I see that there's enough lack of interest in the. In the Twins that the Athletic Gleeman announced today that he was told that he could not. They didn't want him to cover the Twins anymore. He could stay at the Athletic and he decided to leave. And he's going back to being aarangleman.com. The Athletic has gone from two twins guys to one in this. In this town. Dan Hayes, who lives in Chicago and commutes.
Pat
So the twins are 19 and 23.
Joe
Yes.
Pat
This, this says 18 and 23 because it doesn't have yesterday's game.
Joe
But they're at the American League standing 2 1/2 out. Yeah, but look at everybody except the top two teams in the American League east, the Yankees and the race.
Pat
Everybody else is nine out.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, but look at the record. Look at the first place records in the Central and the West.
Pat
First place record in the Central is Cleveland at 21 and 22.
Joe
Yes.
Pat
And look at the Tampa Bay is 26 and 13. The athletics are 21 and 19. Cubs are 27 and 14.
Joe
Yes.
Pat
Atlanta's 27 and 30. What are you trying to tell me
Joe
to tell you there are two teams in the American League that are like 15 games over and everybody else is 500 or less.
Pat
Right.
Joe
You got leaders of divisions who aren't 500.
Pat
Right.
Joe
So.
Sports Analyst
Well, that wouldn't even be updated because it was late. Your. Your Cleveland guardians are 21 and 21, Joe. Well, they lost yesterday, but I have MLB.com right here.
Pat
Well, they were 20. Did the. Wait a minute. Did your paper have this game yesterday? Yes, I'm sorry. This wasn't late.
Joe
This was. It was not late.
Pat
The twins beat Cleveland 5 to 4 yesterday.
Sports Analyst
Game started at 12:30.
Pat
Well, these are up to date then.
Joe
Yeah.
Pat
In terms of Cleveland and Minnesota.
Joe
Yes. Yes.
Sports Analyst
Hey, we're only two and a half games out of first.
Pat
What I'm trying to tell you.
Sports Analyst
That's true.
Joe
Tell us anymore what the deadline is.
Pat
It's just. Is it floating?
Joe
Because they're afraid that we will let.
Pat
If they say it's 4:30, you'll use
Joe
it, we'll use it. We'll take advantage. They want, you know, they want when you wake up in the morning to be done. You know that's what they want. They want that copy early.
Sports Analyst
How about the fact that the team with the highest payroll in baseball has the worst record? Your New York Met are 15 and 25.
Joe
Are they still the worst?
Sports Analyst
Yes. 300.
Joe
What? 50 million.
Sports Analyst
I thought it was more than that, but you're probably right. They're a game behind. The Colorado Rockies were 16 and 21.
Joe
Can't be to it. And he could have had Correa if he didn't back off.
Pat
Now Correa is hurting out for the.
Joe
The other. The.
Patrick Ricey
The good ankle is fine.
Joe
The bad ankle is the one that here's the good news. The bad ankle is not. Is not the bad one.
Sports Analyst
No.
Joe
It's the other one that's now injured. So he's got two bad ankles. We got out of 33 million. We got out cheap getting rid of him. You know what? I. I saw somebody though making a big deal of the fact that the pitcher that they got for him.
Sports Analyst
Matthew Mikulski.
Joe
No. Yeah, basically Matthew Mikulski. He's probably had better stuff but he was a 26 year old in low a ball who had never been on a roster or anything. You have. And they're writing as though they really got robbed on this trade. You have to take a player, right. The. The Astros said we're not going to take the bulk of the deal and also give you a player of some worth. Right. So they just gave them a body. But these guys are. Oh boy, they really got screwed on this deal because my Matthew Mikulski got. Got released or something. You know.
Pat
They're off today, aren't they?
Joe
Yes. Yeah.
Pat
And then they're home for a stretch.
Joe
So I met man right down the street the we'll be playing game four. And Mancini's has their St. Paul hall of Fame dinner tonight and they did not move it it. I thought maybe they would.
Pat
Are you going?
Joe
I. They are honoring Mike Augustine and Greg Wong. So yes, I'm going in half.
Pat
I'm how to get there in that mess.
Joe
I'm gonna go this way.
Pat
Oh yeah.
Joe
And I'm not gonna go downtown first but the. You know. So I gotta talk for five, six, seven minutes or something about. About two of the great human beings of all time.
Pat
Wonderful. I didn't know they were going in.
Joe
Augie's been gone for 30 years. I think 96. I think 1996 was when he died.
Pat
All I remember a small cemetery in St.
Joe
Cloud. Yes. Yes. That's when my wife said to you, Joe, this is the first person from our age group, a friend of ours that died. And she said you said to her. And thanks for that, Katie. Thanks for. Thanks for telling us that.
Pat
Yeah, thank you. I didn't need to know that.
Joe
But yes.
Pat
Well, he's young. He was too young.
Joe
Yeah, he was 50. Little mid-50s maybe. Yeah, yeah. Went quick too. Man, what a beauty.
Pat
Longer's going in tonight, but he's still with us.
Joe
Yeah, Wonger's with us, but he's got that terrible memory problem. Yeah.
Pat
Will he be there tonight?
Joe
Great. But. But Donna, his wife's coming and she's bringing a nice Delegation.
Pat
So wonderful.
Joe
Yeah.
Pat
What else do we got?
Joe
What else? Who do we have, Pat?
Pat
I landed in Charlotte, North Carolina, to go to Columbia, South Carolina.
Joe
I went to. I ever been there those places? A few times. Yeah.
Pat
The airport in Charlotte is the biggest airport I've ever been in.
Sports Analyst
Really?
Joe
They must have expanded it quite a bit since I flew down.
Pat
Well, it's bigger than o'. Hare.
Joe
It spread out.
Pat
It's spread out.
Sports Analyst
Okay.
Pat
But I'm thinking they got football and basketball.
Joe
Yes.
Pat
They're going to end up with all four. That's a million people. It's growing like crazy.
Joe
It's the baseball. You know, was.
Pat
That's home of Quail Hollow.
Joe
The baseball's talking about Nashville, though.
Pat
More.
Joe
More so than. Yeah, Quail Hollow. But, yeah, it's a. It's a booming town. There's no doubt.
Pat
Oh, my word.
Sports Analyst
Didn't they almost steal our guys? Wasn't the buyer from North.
Joe
Or that area he was from.
Sports Analyst
Was it North Carolina?
Joe
Yeah, but it was from some smaller. Okay, remember what the town was.
Sports Analyst
Was there Don Beaver.
Joe
Yeah, that was Beaver.
Sports Analyst
Don Beaver.
Joe
Yeah. Was it Beaver? Yeah, wasn't it?
Pat
Then it was announced he didn't have the money.
Sports Analyst
One small problem.
Joe
Yeah.
Pat
Just didn't have the finance.
Joe
Unlike the Greek, who we wouldn't sell the Vikings to. We should have sold him. I. I don't know. I got a little. I got a little suspicious he might not have the money when he was staying at the same Super 8 up and halfway up to Hinckley or something. But that's one of my.
Pat
Didn't he have the Greek fishing hat, too?
Joe
What was his name? Yeah.
Pat
Castellanus.
Sports Analyst
No, All I can think of is Clancy. I can't think of who.
Pat
Clancy was a front for somebody. He didn't. He. He had some money, but he didn't have football money.
Joe
So. Johnny Devolas. Yeah, he's a Greek favorite. Greek. Yeah. So I call up Johnny and. Because this guy's up there and he's look up the Greek. We had the black fella who was gonna. Watkins was gonna buy the Twins, Right?
Pat
Yeah.
Joe
Turned out he didn't have any money. Right. And we were accused of racism for not. For suspecting that he didn't have the money. So I called up Johnny and did this piece on Johnny as a Greek. Are you offended that we aren't taking this man seriously? And, you know, they have this thing, the Greeks have this Order of the Hellenic, or Hellenic. It's a sub. It's kind of a social club. And so I Did this whole thing with Johnny being upset that we weren't taking it was all satire and I made it clear. But the next morning, the guy tracks down Johnny and ask him if he wants to invest.
Pat
Oh, my God.
Sports Analyst
All I'm seeing, according to the AI overview of the timeline, is just the Wilfs. Obviously Tom Clancy, Reggie Fowler, and, well, obviously with Red McCombs.
Joe
But the Greek was.
Pat
This was for twins.
Joe
Yeah.
Sports Analyst
Oh, I thought you said the Vikings.
Joe
I'm sorry, Wasn't it?
Sports Analyst
I thought. I thought Pat said the Vikings.
Joe
It was the Vikings.
Pat
Maybe it was the Vikings. I don't know, I can't remember.
Sports Analyst
But it was.
Pat
Remember the Greek?
Joe
Greek. Who was gonna buy Vikings that probably won't show up.
Sports Analyst
By the way, do you know what the purchase price Clancy tried to get in 1998 was?
Joe
100 mil.
Sports Analyst
$200 million.
Joe
Clancy, you should have borrowed 200 million in 1998.
Pat
Wow.
Sports Analyst
And if the Wilf sold today, they'd probably get about 5 or 6 billion.
Joe
Oh, at least. What did. What did the guy from Texas pay for Red?
Sports Analyst
200.
Joe
200.
Sports Analyst
Red ended up giving 200 and I. He sold. What did he say?
Pat
Red got about 600 million for it.
Sports Analyst
Something like that. I think you're right.
Joe
Yeah. So. But no, they're saying like 10, 12 million billion for the next NFL franchise.
Sports Analyst
Well, that's what. Seattle's on the market right now and they're expected to go for around.
Patrick Ricey
Yeah, that doesn't work.
Pat
They expected to stay in Seattle.
Joe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They. They showed me that. That doesn't work because they're talking about the Byzantine empire here when I put that in there. So that won't be any good. That was a long time ago. That was a long time ago.
Pat
Look up your column about the guy.
Joe
Oh, God, I don't know how I find that.
Pat
It's got to be, what, 25 years ago?
Joe
Yeah, at least. How long the Wilfs.
Sports Analyst
Oh, five is when the Wilfs took ownership.
Joe
It's funny how good a reputation they have with the public, though, because every time they do something, I send out a tweet and says, cheap Wilfs. You know, Cheap, Wilson, cheap. You know, it's amazing. Anyway, all right, can we hear about
Sports Analyst
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Pat
So you're going to Mancini's tonight but you're not, you're not going to the game.
Joe
I, I can't because they'll be going but I will see people watching the game that'll be sure.
Sports Analyst
Maybe just go to the watch party.
Pat
There will be probably when you step out the door of Mancini's tonight, you will see a watch party sea of people.
Joe
Oh down the street. I think we're a mile point mile and 2.
Pat
Tennis is a bit away.
Joe
They're kind of the. Yeah, they're. They're the end of the road so
Sports Analyst
you can get some steps in and
Patrick Ricey
walk down and I would like. You know what?
Joe
I love to own Tom Reeds today. Everybody else but the one I'd really love to own is that truck.
Pat
The Truck park.
Joe
The Truck park. Yeah. Truck Place bar. That place is huge.
Pat
Is that on 7th Street.
Sports Analyst
It's right on the corner.
Joe
Yeah. And they can open her up. Yeah, they can open up the windows. And when I was roaming down there, when that. On that first Saturday playoff, they had to have 600 people in there. It was unbelievable. And the youth. The youth likes to drink.
Sports Analyst
Yes, they do. Yes, they do.
Pat
I just came from a college graduation.
Joe
Was there alcohol involved?
Pat
Boy, was there ever.
Joe
Now why do they graduate down there at South Carolina?
Pat
How many people? Yeah, I went to.
Joe
I choose. It depends upon which.
Pat
I went to two ceremonies. I went to her department deal and then the main one, which filled the basketball arena, which is the size of Target Center.
Joe
Yeah.
Pat
And that was the entire class. And it took two hours to name all the names. I don't know what the number of people was.
Sports Analyst
You weren't counting.
Joe
She get. She foreigned on there and she go an extra year. Four years. She only went four and done.
Patrick Ricey
Well.
Joe
The last college graduation I went to was Ryan's out at Regis and we got there on Monday and he was still waiting to. He didn't have his final grade from one three credit class that he had when he was in Ireland for a month. I always described it as Guinness 101.
Pat
Guinness 101.
Joe
But he still had to. And his father, who. His father had paid the tariff for him and he was. He'd flown out there with his new wife and everything and he wasn't in a real good mood when it appeared. It appeared that the guy he did, you know, Ryan was a five year. And the guy he'd been paying for five years was not gonna graduate because he hadn't turned in a three page paper from Ireland when he was over there for the greatest scam. Education is J term. This kid, I did, she. She had to have a J term here, there and everywhere.
Pat
I got pictures of her riding a camel across the desert in Africa.
Joe
Yeah, that's J term.
Pat
And they camped in beautiful things that were set up for them. And then the food was brought in. And then.
Joe
This is education.
Pat
This is education. And then Madrid.
Joe
Yeah.
Pat
Florence, Italy.
Joe
Yes.
Pat
That wasn't school. That was parte.
Joe
What kind of kickbacks do you think these colleges are getting from the people? Big time. Where they.
Pat
I bet they're all affiliated with the travel business.
Joe
Yeah, I bet they are. Yeah.
Pat
It's those kids today in your modern school.
Sports Analyst
Oh my.
Pat
Those kids. Have fun. We actually had to go to school.
Sports Analyst
Yeah, we're starting to get hit up too. It starts early too. We're starting to get hit up for. Hey, we're gonna send them to DC and we're gonna send them to begins early.
Joe
So. Yeah, we got, I got one of the grandkids is gonna be a senior and she's, she's looking at Iowa for some reason.
Pat
Let me tell you what I learned. These SEC schools are not as expensive as you think.
Joe
I mean, they'll give you a lot of help if you have good grades.
Pat
That was cheaper for her to go there than an in state school in Illinois. Really?
Joe
Wow.
Pat
Wow.
Joe
Well, it cost a lot of money. That's, you know, I don't know. I heard that. I heard Iowa was going to be kind of pricey. Even when you eat, they're all damn near an A student and they're all expensive. And now they got. The boy is doing driving, he's got the permit. So, so when you get two of them like that, do you get away with one car? You gotta have two. You get away because I asked the boy, the boy was over and I said, so you wanna, you Wanna convertible with 70,000 miles on it? And, and he said yeah, but I don't know that, that I can't. I imagine a convertible would be even more expensive for the, the insurance. Right.
Pat
Plus when they roll over, you want
Joe
them to have a hard time. Yes, that's right. That's key. When, when they're in the car and there's people with them and there's a lot of hi jinks going on.
Pat
Well, we're going to root for that not to happen.
Joe
No, we are, we are, we are. So.
Pat
All right, I got to go meet a concrete guy.
Joe
All right, good.
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Podcast: Garage Logic (Gamut Podcast Network)
Episode: MNST: Wemby gets ejected and the Wolves tie the series at 2-2
Date: May 11, 2026
Host: Joe Soucheray (“The Mayor”), with Pat, Patrick Ricey, Mark Ellis, and Sports Analysts
This episode dives into a pivotal weekend for Minnesota sports, focusing on a thrilling Wild playoff hockey win, discussions about key player performances, and a pivotal Timberwolves game where Victor Wembanyama (“Wemby”) was ejected, allowing the Wolves to even their playoff series. The team also touches on the ongoing MLB season, local sports history, personal anecdotes, and some musings on changing trends in sports and education.
Post-game Analysis:
On the Team’s Stars:
Future and Cap Space Dilemmas:
Atmosphere & Culture:
Wemby Ejection & Impact:
Physicality & Officiating:
Player Performances:
Current Season Discussion:
Media & Coverage:
Player News:
Sports Franchise Ownership:
Personal and Family Stories:
On the Garage:
Social Commentary:
The episode highlights Minnesota’s passion for sports, blending sharp game analysis with humor and broader observations about sports culture, ownership, and life’s daily logic. From Wemby’s ejection and Wild playoff optimism to quirky stories of failed sports moguls and the evolution of “the room,” Garage Logic delivers both insider knowledge and a dose of classic Midwestern common sense.