MNST: WORLD CUP FINALE UPDATE: Messi didn't move but he was ready to pounce!!

Summary

Garage Logic — MNST: WORLD CUP FINALE UPDATE: Messi didn’t move but he was ready to pounce!!
Episode Date: July 20, 2026
Host: Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor") with Pat, Patrick, and Mark Ellis
Podcast Network: Gamut Podcast Network

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Overview

This episode of Garage Logic focuses on the surprisingly static play and result of the 2026 World Cup Final, where Argentina failed to register a shot on goal against Spain. The crew discusses soccer’s flaws and mystique, the spectacle of the final, and the idiosyncratic performance of Lionel Messi. The conversation branches into larger themes of sport—including comparisons to other championships, gripes with soccer’s rules, and the emotional draw of national pride—before the hosts veer into golf controversies, baseball stories, and the rhythms of Minnesota summer life.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. World Cup Final: Argentina’s Futile Offense

• Unprecedented Performance

  • The hosts note that Argentina, despite featuring “the legend of legends” Lionel Messi, failed to register a single shot on goal in the 2026 World Cup final, losing 1–0 to Spain.
  • Patrick cites analytics from The Athletic:

    “Messi walked 63% of the time... but was always ready to pounce. He was observing closely and ready to pounce. Unfortunately, he didn’t pounce.” (03:16 — Patrick)

  • Pat wryly observes:

    “He never did. Never did pounce.” (03:40 — Pat)

• The Nature of the Game

  • The match included over 120 minutes of game time with Argentina rarely attacking. Even in extra time, their attempts were harmless.
  • Joe jokes about the lack of action:

    “The goalie could have had a chair... Sat there and had a heater... Maybe a little dinner.” (03:53–04:01 — Joe, Patrick, Pat)

  • A larger point is made about defensive, risk-averse strategies—historically seen from teams like Italy in previous finals.

• Making Sense of the Appeal

  • Pat and the group muse about the huge draw of soccer, theorizing its connection to national pride, global spectacle, and scarcity of international sports news:

    “You know what it is? It's pride of your country... That's the only thing. Billion people apparently watch, are interested in it, so.” (09:16–09:23 — Pat, Joe)

2. Soccer’s Confounding Rules and Frustrations

• Frustrations with Overtime and Winning

  • The hosts find the rules around extra time and penalty shootouts illogical:

    “The team that wins in overtime doesn’t really win... because this team that hasn’t pista drop the whole game still deserves its chance…” (07:07 — Joe)

  • Patrick compares this to the absurdities of other sports’ overtime formats via a Robin Williams golf bit. (05:31–05:50)

• Historical Context

  • Joe shares memories of the 1994 World Cup final at the Rose Bowl, another famously dull defensive match, but notes the rarity of a team not taking a shot at all (06:12–07:13).

• Comparisons Across Sports

  • They try (with comic effect) to find parallels:

    “What would be analogous in another sport to a team in a championship game not getting a shot? Would it be [not] having a first down?” (12:11–12:22) “Baseball? It would be a perfect game—you didn’t even have a base runner… but perfect games are exciting.” (12:33–12:43)

  • Joe’s tongue-in-cheek “fixes” for soccer:

    “Fewer players, too many players, shorter nets... Put them all on skates and give them a puck.” (13:38–13:52)

• Ready to Pounce: The New Meme

  • The phrase “ready to pounce” becomes a running joke applied to everyone from sports stars to household situations (15:01–15:16).

3. Golf Drama: Bryson DeChambeau vs McIlroy & Chamblee

• Golf Rules Controversy

  • Patrick details a recent rules incident involving Bryson DeChambeau stepping on weeds during a tournament, receiving a two-shot penalty, then lashing out at Rory McIlroy and Brandel Chamblee. (16:00 — 17:38)

• Petty and Personal

  • The episode highlights how golf’s personal feuds spill over, with accusations, levity, and general incredulity at the drama:

    “It’s just so unseemly what’s being said. It’s just unbelievable.” (18:51–18:56 — Patrick) “God, he’s an idiot.” (18:56 — Joe)

4. Summer, Baseball, and Minnesota Logistics

• Twins at Wrigley Field

  • The crew reminisces about covering a Twins-Cubs series in Chicago, the changing baseball landscape, ballpark renovations, and the unique experience of Wrigleyville (23:10–27:45).
  • Nostalgia for a more rambunctious press corps emerges:

    “Where’s the hijinks?... Everybody was just mellow.” (24:56 — Joe)

• All-Star Game and Home Run Derby

  • Brief complaints about a boring MLB All-Star Game versus the revived fun of the Home Run Derby.
  • Returning to the Argentina soccer theme:

    “If anybody in the Home Run Derby was from Argentina, they wouldn’t hit a home run.” (28:24–28:29 — Patrick, Pat)

• Weather and Living in MN

  • Forecast discussion (22:39–22:42), pool talk, and lawn/sprinkler tales—quintessential “Garage Logic” content.

• Life Milestones & Local Sports

  • Jokes about aging, changing clocks, and football season’s implication that “summer’s almost over.” (35:53 — Joe)

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Messi’s Stat Line:

  “Messi walked 63% of the time, but was always ready to pounce. He was observing closely and he was ready to pounce. Unfortunately, he didn’t pounce.”
  (03:16 — Patrick)

• Soccer’s Lack of Action:

  “The goalie could have had a chair... Sat there and had a heater. Maybe a little dinner.”
  (03:53–04:01 — Joe, Patrick, Pat)

• Comparing Sports:

  “What would be analogous in another sport to a team in a championship game not getting a shot?... It would be a perfect game… but perfect games are exciting.”
  (12:11–12:43 — Patrick, Joe, Pat)

• On Soccer’s Fixes:

  “Put them all on skates and give them a puck.”
  (13:52 — Pat, joking about turning soccer into hockey)

• On National Pride in Soccer:

  “It’s pride of your country… billion people apparently watch…”
  (09:16–09:23 — Pat, Joe)

• New Running Joke:

  “Moss might have been just kind of walking, but he was ready to pounce.”
  (15:12 — Pat, on Randy Moss and soccer’s meme)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:45] – Transition from ads to World Cup discussion
• [03:06–04:10] – Messi’s “ready to pounce” stat and match breakdown
• [06:07–07:13] – Historical context of teams with no shots in a final; Joe’s Rose Bowl memory
• [08:14–09:16] – Penalty shootout rules, soccer’s oddities, and speculation on what draws in fans
• [12:02–12:43] – Comparing soccer stats to NFL and MLB
• [13:38–13:52] – “Fixing soccer” segment, including skates-and-puck suggestion
• [15:01–15:12] – Debuting the “ready to pounce” running joke
• [16:00–18:56] – DeChambeau golf incident and golf world gossip
• [23:10–28:29] – Wrigley Field stories and Minnesota Twins fandom
• [35:53] – Reflection on summer winding down and the approach of football season
• [37:01–37:44] – Humorous discussion on changing clocks and aging

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Episode Flow & Tone

The show flows as a lively, banter-filled discussion marked by playful skepticism about soccer’s entertainment value, nostalgic stories about sports journalism, and the unique flavor of Minnesota life. The hosts’ comedic rapport keeps the tone wry and accessible, even when skewering global sports or their own aging routines. Jokes recur (“ready to pounce”) and local color is abundant, making the episode both a sports recap and a hangout with quintessential Minnesotan sensibility.

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Conclusion

This Garage Logic episode is equal parts soccer skepticism, community storytelling, and running comedic commentary on the world of sports. Even those who missed the “beautiful game” can appreciate the cultural translation and everyman wisdom—but maybe not the soccer itself.

Transcript

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[Patrick]

Have the song.

[Pat]

Have the song.

[Joe]

All right. Makes me feel a lot better about doing the show.

[Pat]

That's right.

[Joe]

We don't have to come in humming.

[Patrick]

Pat, you got a world title game in the world's most popular sport. Yes, the world.

[Joe]

There they're crazy for it.

[Patrick]

Where one team did not have a shot on goal and lost one to nothing.

[Joe]

This was the. They got messy. They got a guy. That's the legend of legends.

[Patrick]

According to the Athletic.

[Pat]

Wait, wait. You gotta build this up because I guarantee Pat hasn't heard this stat.

[Patrick]

There's a guy from the Athletic who did the analytics.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Patrick]

Messi walked 63% of the time

[Joe]

what

[Patrick]

was his head but was always ready to pounce. He was observing closely and he was ready to pounce. Unfortunately, he didn't pounce.

[Pat]

He never did. Never did pounce.

[Patrick]

They got two shots in what's called extra time. But they were neither of them involved. The goalie bothering to get involved.

[Joe]

The goalie so words. The goalie could have had a chair.

[Patrick]

Could have had their. Sat there and had a heater.

[Pat]

Little dinner. Maybe a little dinner.

[Patrick]

The other thing I like too. I noticed this.

[Joe]

He was ready to pounce. I noticed unfortunately, he never poked.

[Patrick]

The team goes on offense. All right, here they come. Here comes Spain or Australia or wherever the hell they were. Argentina. And they race down the field and they get down there and it's almost. Sometimes they say, oh, the hell with it. They go back. They go back, see their own goaltender. How you doing? We're gonna start over. And then they go back down.

[Joe]

Now that I know they had no shots, I might have to watch a replay.

[Patrick]

No shots.

[Pat]

He's gonna go back and see it.

[Joe]

Yes. I gotta see how you play. Because they went extra time, right?

[Patrick]

Not to mention the goal is the size of this building.

[Joe]

But I think we played 97 minutes of regulation and then 30 more at least. So 130 minutes and no shots.

[Patrick]

I thought they were going to keep playing until Arkansas won or Argentina. Argentina.

[Pat]

Maybe Arkansas had a better shot.

[Joe]

The other stupid thing is when you score a goal in extra time, it doesn't win the game doesn't happen. It's like the fit that because this team that hasn't pista drop the whole game still deserves its chance to tie it up. So then we can go to the very fair penalty.

[Pat]

That's right.

[Patrick]

Who's the comedian have on a mental block. The comedian did the bit on golf. He created the Robin Williams. Robin Williams. It's like the bit Robin Williams did. Well, it's going to be 14 holes, right?

[Pat]

No, no, he says. So that's it. One hole. Bleep.

[Joe]

No, I do it 18 times.

[Patrick]

So the team that wins in overtime doesn't really win.

[Joe]

No, not yet. Not yet.

[Pat]

Because there was so much action. There was so much hot scoring action.

[Joe]

So has anybody ripped Argentina for not having a shot? I mean, is there. So Pat.

[Patrick]

I further looked it up.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Patrick]

I got very curious, so I went to the.

[Joe]

Has anybody else done this?

[Patrick]

It's never happened in a World cup final, In a World cup final that a team didn't have a shot. Then I kept. Then I looked up further. Is it common in soccer for a team not to have a shot on goal the entire game? And they said it is not common, but it happens.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, it happens. I gotta say, I have attended one World cup final in the Rose Bowl.

[Patrick]

Who was it?

[Joe]

Brazil was the heavy favorite and Italy was the opponent. And Italy knew that if they tried to do anything right, they'd probably get beat. So they did nothing. Did they have a shot all game? I think it went to penalty kicks. But they must have had a shot. If nobody's ever done them. They mean they didn't really try. They just played keep away.

[Patrick]

Did either team. Did either team have a player ready to pounce?

[Joe]

I can tell you who had a player who did have a player ready to pounce. Italy. Because what shocked me was there's the Azer, I believe they call them the blue. The blue. The azure. The Azure. The azure, yeah. They. They were noted for their conservative style. Not even, I mean, for traditionally, apparently.

[Pat]

The 1994 men's championship World cup final match played on July 17, 1994, was the first World cup final to be decided by a penalty shootout after a 00 draw between Brazil and Italy. Brazil won the shootout 3 to 2 to claim their historic fourth title in front of 94,194 spectators.

[Joe]

But do we have. How many shots?

[Patrick]

Do the shootout rules the same? Do they make sense or do you still get to kick till you maybe get a couple?

[Pat]

So that's obviously what Argentina was trying to do.

[Joe]

Nine chances.

[Patrick]

I think I've told you this. I told you this Friday and I'm sticking to it. It'll get to the point where no team will be allowed to win. No team will be allowed to win.

[Joe]

It could be. Man, did they do a Box score here. Yeah, they didn't have many shots, I can tell you. Italy didn't have many shots, but Braz was loaded, so they were very afraid of them. But I was, I was a little disappointed. Although the pregame with all the Brazilian fans dressed up like Carmen Miranda, men

[Patrick]

and women, bananas on their hats, all

[Joe]

over the place, and you didn't know, you know, if you were gonna. If you were the type of person to proposition a really good looking person, you didn't know if it was a man or.

[Patrick]

Okay, serious question.

[Pat]

Here we go.

[Patrick]

What is the appeal?

[Joe]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Pat]

You know what it is? It's pride of your country.

[Patrick]

Maybe that's it.

[Pat]

That's the only thing billion people apparently

[Joe]

watch, are interested in it, so.

[Patrick]

Well, God love him.

[Joe]

I don't get it. Yeah, get it.

[Pat]

You know who was a fan, though, as I mentioned earlier?

[Patrick]

Well, he's one of the guys.

[Pat]

He loves no shots.

[Patrick]

He loves a defensive game.

[Pat]

That's right. Jacques would have loved Argentina's effort.

[Patrick]

All right, switch.

[Joe]

Realize until you, Mr. Soccer, told me that they didn't have any shots because,

[Patrick]

well, I kept hearing that and I thought, that can't be true. That just can't be true.

[Pat]

You got to tell Pat about the one call you had to make of the game. You're watching. He didn't know which team had the red.

[Patrick]

I had to text somebody, finally, who's wearing red?

[Joe]

Well, I've had that problem because, you know, it's. Sometimes I was in a store, a convenience store while the game was going on, and it's a convenience store owned by fellas from Latin America.

[Patrick]

Right, right.

[Joe]

And while I was there.

[Patrick]

This is yesterday.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Joe]

While I was there, the one guy says, go for. He thought it was for Argentina. And they all rushed over there and left me hanging with my whatever products I had because they thought. And then they found out not only wasn't it a goal, it wasn't even a shot, apparently so. But yeah, they were. They were. Let's just say their focus was not on who came through the door.

[Patrick]

Right.

[Joe]

They were very focused on the hot.

[Patrick]

Can we switch topics wildly?

[Joe]

One more, one more thing, though. Do you know that next time around they've had so much fun, they're going to have 64 teams in the tournament because they figure they can rip. You know, people have to pay FIFA a fee for this whole damn thing,

[Pat]

you know, because they want another Cape Verde story.

[Joe]

Yes, they're. Well, plus they're all crooks. Wow.

[Pat]

Anyway, they're worse than the NCAA March Madness bracket.

[Joe]

Yes. Right.

[Pat]

Come on in.

[Joe]

What we just go to.

[Pat]

Well, they haven't announced it officially yet, but 76. The rumor is they're gonna have 76.

[Patrick]

Hey, speaking of that, was there a World cup bracket?

[Pat]

Oh, God, yeah.

[Patrick]

I didn't see one in the page.

[Joe]

Yeah, but you don't. You late take, I think. No, there's the brackets early. But then you don't automatically play that. Do you automatically play a certain.

[Pat]

I don't think so, no. Because the first couple rounds are.

[Joe]

I think it's somebody. I don't know. Who you beat has something to do with it. Who you play in the next, after the next.

[Patrick]

What would be analogous in another sport to a team in a championship game?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Patrick]

Not getting a shot.

[Joe]

Would it be having a first down?

[Patrick]

That's what I said earlier.

[Pat]

That is true. But I had said they don't even

[Patrick]

run a play out. No play.

[Pat]

They didn't even run a play.

[Patrick]

Didn't even run a play.

[Joe]

Yeah. So basically you fumbled every kickoff.

[Pat]

Well, baseball. It would be a perfect game. Right. You didn't even have a base runner.

[Patrick]

You didn't even have a. Yeah, but perfect games are. They're exciting.

[Pat]

True, true. That's a big 27 ground outs.

[Patrick]

Yes. Well, I was telling the boys I was working a sprinkler in the yard. So I set the sprinkler, come back in, and I got the timer going. Watch the game. Then I go back and reset the sprinkler. I was really afraid I was gonna something. It turns out I didn't. And so I saw pretty much of it. The lawn was looking great, but I was. So I saw enough to. To make these observations that I. I don't understand this. There's no shot. So they didn't get a shot.

[Joe]

How could they?

[Pat]

You were saying, do something.

[Joe]

Yes, shoot the cock. You have. You have revealed to me. Because I didn't read the gamers or anything. You ever revealed that to me. I didn't know there was no shots.

[Pat]

In fact, Joe or Patrick? Joe's observations from the World cup in Gl. I made notes. He wants to fix soccer on the grand stage. This way, fewer players, too many players, shorter nets.

[Patrick]

The field's too big.

[Pat]

Field's too big. Put them all on skates and give them a puck.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's. That's my famous Tommy Reed moment about. Up in Duluth, about 1985. And they're in the second overtime, so they need me as a guest. Right. Come over and Says, well, I know you're not the biggest fan. What would you do to improve the game? You know what I'd do, Tommy? I'd melt the ice. And then I'd get two big basket, two big bowls up there and put baskets on them. I think it'd be a hell of a game, Pat, this game. Hockey is the wide open, crazy affair compared to this, right?

[Patrick]

Well, this game made me a basketball fan.

[Joe]

Unreal. You, you would have rather watched Olivia Miles with the gag?

[Patrick]

Guys, I'm not going that far, okay? But basketball has players who can do stuff.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Patrick]

Not one soccer player I saw can do anything.

[Joe]

You don't see basketball players walking, but they are pouncing.

[Pat]

So that's our new line here. You see what Randy Moss in his

[Joe]

day, the show has been boring today, but we're ready to.

[Patrick]

Ready to pounce.

[Pat]

Moss might have been just kind of walking, but he was ready to pounce.

[Patrick]

Okay, I'm ready to pounce. Did you follow the DeChambeau controversy?

[Joe]

I have not seen it yet. I've read about it. What was he trying to do, Plow down the vegetation?

[Patrick]

He hits a ball into this God awful mess of crude, much thinner than

[Joe]

normal because they haven't had any rain.

[Patrick]

And as he goes to the ball, he steps on some weeds behind the ball.

[Joe]

Okay, all right. Now whether he did steps on them, whether we don't know if he did

[Patrick]

it on purpose or not, the more you look at it, the more you think he might have done it on purpose.

[Joe]

Knowing him, he might have done it.

[Patrick]

And then they wait till after the round and they say, by the way, Bryson, we got to talk to you about this shot on number five. It's a two shot penalty.

[Joe]

Oh, he's in already.

[Patrick]

And they're done.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Patrick]

Then he goes, they get a couple of golf carts, they load them up with people, officials, they go back out there and they reenact the thing. And the cameras weren't within hearing range.

[Joe]

Is the tournament over by then?

[Patrick]

No, this is day two. It's Friday night.

[Joe]

Oh, that's right.

[Patrick]

So they're out there and you can see him terribly animated and seething and gesticulating. Here's what I did like this. And they said, two shots, the RNA baby. At which point he said, well, maybe I'm not playing tomorrow. And they had apparently had no reaction to that. They figured he was either going to show up or not show up. And of course he showed up. He didn't handle it well. But that, but what's followed is he is lit into McElroy and Brandell Chamblee like you wouldn't believe. Really? Because apparently Chamblee was a big proponent of giving him the two shot penalty. And McElroy will say anything against a lift. He hates live. Chamblee starts saying how. Or DeChambeau starts saying how Chamblee is not a pedophile but is adjacent to it. He. He trained. He. He. What's that word we use when you. You're. He groomed a 20 year old and then he left his. Left his wife and they cheated.

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[Patrick]

McElroy cheated on his wife and they're accusing me of cheating.

[Joe]

This is all in the last 24 hours on Sunday? Yes. Wow. A lot of people aren't reporting what he said.

[Patrick]

It's just so unseemly what's being said. It's just unbelievable.

[Joe]

God, he's an idiot. He's an idiot. But here's the sad news today. You know who pulled out of the three? Not Scotty. Ryan Fox.

[Patrick]

We did.

[Joe]

The new favorite.

[Pat]

I know.

[Joe]

Spieth pulled off our new favorite golfer in the world. He plays speed golf compared to the rest of these guys.

[Patrick]

He hit his second shot to 18 yesterday before the players had cleared the green.

[Joe]

Yes. Yes. He doesn't wait. It's unbelievable.

[Patrick]

And this. I hope this resonates with. With stiffs like me who. Who take five minutes to line up their triple bogey putt.

[Joe]

Yes. Right, let's go here. Yeah. He's unbelievable.

[Patrick]

I loved it. I love the way he plays.

[Joe]

And he's the third New Zealander.

[Patrick]

Can only name one other one. Bob Charles.

[Joe]

Michael Campbell and Bob Charles. Now, I gotta say this. This guy was great. I listened to his press conference afterwards. He went like a half hour.

[Patrick]

He's Great.

[Joe]

Any question. And 2005, Michael Campbell's win was at Pinehurst. I covered it. And he beat out Tiger most. Boringhurst. Pinehurst, Wasn't it Pinehurst.

[Patrick]

Well, it's a British Open. You're talking about.

[Joe]

Oh, the British. No, I'm talking about the. Oh, he won there too, huh?

[Patrick]

I guess. I don't know.

[Joe]

No, no, he won at Pinehurst. He was a major winner. He won the US Open at Pinehurst?

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Not the British Open, but. But, God, he's boring. Just boring as hell. But this guy was foxy.

[Patrick]

They call him foxy.

[Joe]

Showed up this week, they would have had an extra 10,000 people.

[Patrick]

That's a shame. I suppose he can be forgiven. He probably wants to go back.

[Joe]

He didn't when he. When he said, I'll be there. He didn't expect to be a major champion three days earlier. He's got to be a little amped up, so I can't blame him. Nobody can blame him. But it would have been fun.

[Patrick]

Is Scheffler fulfilling his obligation?

[Joe]

I believe he'll be there. Yeah, he will be.

[Patrick]

I mean, they start coming in today.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Patrick]

I don't know. Shuffler.

[Joe]

They put him on a. I'm sure we put him on a very nice. He's got his own nice jet, but. Yeah, I think Hollis probably bought the fuel for this trip, you know?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Patrick]

So Speed's not going to be here. He. He got out. He backed out.

[Joe]

He bailed out. They. Is the weather going to remain this steamy?

[Pat]

No. We're supposed to cool off starting tomorrow, are we not?

[Patrick]

Well, I'm going to look it up for you because I believe we're going to cool off.

[Joe]

You know what that means?

[Pat]

We're going to get a storm again tonight.

[Joe]

Get a storm tonight?

[Patrick]

There's no storm last night.

[Pat]

Oh, are you kidding me?

[Patrick]

This morning, not at my house. There wasn't any storm.

[Pat]

Well, we were dropping off for football practice this morning.

[Joe]

Oh, man.

[Pat]

For football camp, technically, I should say. And, boy, we drove through a monsoon this morning.

[Patrick]

Here's your 3M open weather. Friday 83.

[Joe]

Perfect.

[Patrick]

Saturday night. Thursday, 82. Friday 83. Saturday 93. Sunday 93.

[Joe]

We don't like 93. We like 83. 83 is perfect.

[Patrick]

Yeah, I like 93.

[Joe]

Yeah, so go to the 3 on Thursday. I Got the assignment Friday and Sunday, so. Okay. But you know, 93. 93 and humid is uncomfortable.

[Patrick]

Yes.

[Joe]

And at this time of year it's rarely 93 when it's not humid. So. Yeah. I was in the pool this Morning though, at 6:30am it was delightful.

[Patrick]

I'm so impressed that you do that early in the morning.

[Joe]

It was delightful. Yes, it was.

[Patrick]

Swim your laps.

[Joe]

Yep. Well, I don't. I, I paddle a lot and then I swim up and down there. But I, I bas morning bath in the pool.

[Pat]

I gotta bring up something. So Will the Thrill and I are leaving the St. Patrick recognition baseball night Friday evening. And I would say it's about somewhere between 8:30 and 9.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Pat]

And the play by play radio voice Chris Atterbury, who was doing the game, was it Molly? Was Molly there this weekend or. It was Perky. Perky was there. And I hear Patrick is holding court in the press box cafeteria at Wrigley Field. So it was you, Bobby Nightingale and a couple of others. And I was howling in the vehicle because they were regaling stories about the pregame meal before the ball game.

[Joe]

There was six or seven people there. And I don't think that I could be accused of dominating the conversation.

[Pat]

Well, he did say you and a

[Joe]

bunch of Chicago sports writers and Junior.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Joe]

And Junior, our beat writer, who's fantastic and a very quiet version of his dad. You know, as I tell his dad all the time, he has all your good habits and none of your bad ones. Did they read? I went out to dinner on Thursday night with Kenny Leiker, an old buddy of mine, and Nightingale Sr. And Tommy Keegan, who was the guy that came in from the New York Post and got Darryl Strawberry signed for the Yankees. They came here, they came here with orders to get Darryl Strawberry signed by the Yankees because his boss wanted him on the back page of the New York Post. And he stayed a week and he failed. And three days later the boss said, get back there. Get Darryl signed. And he got Darrell signed, but he's really mellowed out. Even seniors mellowed out. And Kenny's. Kenny's really mellowed out. So it's, it's kind of sad. You know, I'm. Where's the hijinks?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah. Really. I mean, everybody was just mellow.

[Patrick]

Well, did it ever consider to. We're all 100, you're all 110.

[Joe]

I think I'm the oldest in the group at 80, but not by, not by a large margin.

[Pat]

So was the Twins faithful well represented

[Joe]

in WRIGLEYVILLE Oh, God, yes.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Joe]

There had to be Friday night. There had to be 6,8000 twin spaces.

[Pat]

No kidding.

[Joe]

Jerseys all over the place. It's a great thing now because you go. I think it's great that they go every other year.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So they make it an event. You know, they come up here and then every other year we go down. A new generation of people and they.

[Patrick]

I like that park a lot better than Fenway.

[Joe]

Oh, God, yes. They've done.

[Patrick]

Fenway's a dump.

[Joe]

They've done wonders with Wrigley. They've, you know, the. God. They excavated Joe underneath it and built these clubhouses and stuff like that. It's amazing what they've done with the place. Yet it still has the old charm. Oh, now, I guess the charm. You lose a little of the charm if you get the real good seats down front. Because they're like 400 bucks or something like that. But.

[Pat]

But didn't they do it a section each year? Did they do like the outfield one year and then they did. Okay.

[Patrick]

And they still have the ivy.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, they still have the Ivy. They still have the bleachers. The bleachers are still first come, first serve. They all line up. I think they're first come, first serve because they're all lined up and the rooftops now.

[Patrick]

Yeah, but didn't the Cubs buy those buildings?

[Joe]

Most of them. There's still two that they haven't bought. And there's a great big scoreboard in right field. And there used to be a building out there that they have pure oil or something. I don't know what it is. They haven't succeeded in buying it yet. They say as soon as their Cubs buy it, they'll tear down that scoreboard and start charging those tickets again for the rooftop. But it is amazing. I mean, I think the college age youth a little older, the 23 to 30 crowd that's still single and likes to drink, they get on those rooftops and they're not complaining about a call at first base.

[Pat]

I can remember in 2009 when the mighty AM 1500 promotion staff made the excursion down to Wrigley Field. I accompanied them just to supervise.

[Joe]

That was the first time we'd ever played it.

[Pat]

No, no, 97 was the first year, but this is the first time that. When we had the baseball rights.

[Joe]

Oh, that's right.

[Pat]

We went down there and we did lose a couple of staff members for a couple hours. And we said, are you. Please tell me you're still alive.

[Joe]

That's right. Cause when they first started the interleague play, you played your.

[Pat]

Correct.

[Joe]

The division that. You're like the Central played the Central in the east that didn't. They've spent a lot of time trying to figure this out.

[Patrick]

Did you.

[Joe]

By the way, did we talk about this last week? What? The All Star Game. What a fiasco. Yeah, it was a bad game. Brutal.

[Pat]

That was a bad game.

[Joe]

But the Home Run Derby was fun.

[Pat]

Sure.

[Joe]

The rest of it was terrible. They finally figured out the Home Run Derby. They don't have these guys making like 400 swings.

[Patrick]

They.

[Joe]

You know, they. They finally figured it out. But the game was awful.

[Patrick]

If anybody in the Home Run Derby was from Argentina, they wouldn't hit a home run.

[Pat]

They wouldn't even swung.

[Patrick]

They wouldn't have hit it the out.

[Joe]

Unbelievable. No shots, but it's. It's a beautiful game. It's the beautiful game.

[Patrick]

Okay.

[Joe]

What's beautiful about it?

[Patrick]

You know, it's. I. I think Reavers might have nailed it by accident. Yeah, of course it was n. It's. It has to do with. You know, you're not in the news a lot when you're Argentina.

[Pat]

No. This is your thing.

[Patrick]

So this is a big deal, you know.

[Joe]

Yeah. But of course, I had a very good reason for rooting for Spain, because Trump's been ripping Spain for, like, two months. Right. And then the Argentina guy is the Trump of Argentina. He's a very hardcore. Right.

[Patrick]

Well, Don. Don took part in the post.

[Joe]

Did they boom much?

[Patrick]

Well, a little bit, but he wouldn't leave.

[Joe]

Oh, really? He wanted to hang out.

[Patrick]

They had to Photoshop him. This is true. Apparently, Height had it in his news. He was photoshopped out of the Spanish team picture.

[Joe]

Really Wouldn't leave. Got into the. Tried to get into the picture.

[Patrick]

He loved it so much.

[Joe]

I think Spain wanted him in the picture, considering the things that he's said.

[Patrick]

Trying to do a team picture here, John, you got to step aside. He wouldn't step aside. Well, anyway, so they Photoshopped him out of it. Really? Yeah.

[Joe]

Wow. I hope they did a better job than when they photoshopped Clem out. Over here at William's Arena. They catch his shop shoes in it. They paid and Cleb out of the thing.

[Patrick]

But they see Photoshopping has come a long way.

[Joe]

They kept.

[Pat]

I totally forgot about that.

[Joe]

Kept. CLE. Had to do that as a prank or.

[Pat]

Or was the shoe with. Were they a sponsor? You like, Red Wing shoes were a big sponsor or something.

[Joe]

Not like tennis shoes. Oh, my God.

[Pat]

I Forgot about the shoes.

[Patrick]

Where do our poor boys go tonight? Cleveland.

[Pat]

Yeah, that's the big one.

[Joe]

So you got Zebby struggling, you got Abel gone for the year, you got Prelim getting up to his. Any, any limit. I think the. We're hitting the wall here with the

[Pat]

starting rotation, especially when Joe Ryan's about to be trained.

[Joe]

I bet they do trade him, too.

[Pat]

I bet they do.

[Patrick]

I don't think.

[Joe]

Right.

[Patrick]

I mean, right now, during the season,

[Joe]

right before the training, I don't think they were going to. But now it depends if they go to Cleveland and get beat three out of four and. You know, last year, this is. You know, this is the time when they went crazy and. Because they came out of the break playing bad. And they will remember they lost their

[Pat]

first two to Colorado out of the break last year.

[Joe]

Right. Yeah. But, you know, they. 100 games they played already and they won almost half of them. So they play. That was a hell of a game Friday night. And the crowd impressed me because Ryan Jeffers hit that ball the little left field corner there and up in the press box. I didn't think it was gone, but the crowd, they knew the. Was she blowing out Cubs fans? No, not really. No. It wasn't blowing much. Wasn't.

[Patrick]

But by Friday night, the smoke was gone, right?

[Joe]

Yeah, it wasn't as bad. It wasn't. It wasn't. They were. Still had the signs telling you to limit your travel.

[Patrick]

Well, you wore a mask, didn't you?

[Joe]

Oh, God, yes. Yeah. And also, you know, the smoke's a great. Chicago is a great place if you're on 90 coming in, you know, or is to have a lot of smoke problems because, you know, you're going at least three miles an hour down there, you know, to get downtown. So, yeah, we. We had a hell of a time in downtown Chicago until the wife says, I'm going home.

[Pat]

And no train ride was entertained. The train was not entertained.

[Joe]

Add two choices. Drive back in a. Or take her to the airport. So.

[Patrick]

Well, she went for the. She was feeling upset or something.

[Joe]

She was not feeling well. You know, she wasn't. She was. She's had an allergy.

[Patrick]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

To her husband.

[Pat]

Did you guys. She's allergic. Did you see. By the way, was it bush that hit the home run and Anthony Rizzo was in the crowd and caught the ball?

[Joe]

Oh, I didn't. I didn't. I did notice that. I did hear that he was holding

[Pat]

his kid in the. In the bleachers.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Pat]

And I think. I'm almost positive it was Bush that

[Joe]

hit the home run, you know, simbly high school.

[Pat]

And he and Rizzo caught the home run in the stands. That was pretty cool. I think it was Sibley.

[Joe]

I think he's. He's. He's. He's our guy.

[Pat]

Let me look that up while Joe does this ad for Installed Building Solutions.

[Patrick]

It's the garage floor of the future, Pat, and it's right here now, because Installed Building Solutions has the latest technology for the epoxy garage floor. Polyurea. I don't know what that means, but I know it's the most current. Doesn't yellow or crack, and it's still the greatest to clean and easy to maintain. It's tough enough for trucks and tools and how busy your garage must be, especially in the summer. And they can do most floors in just one day so you can get your garage back quickly. And a coated garage floor is cool. It just looks better. It's cleaner, it's brighter. It's more finished every time you walk into it. IT's installed solutions. IBS coding. C O A T I N G. One word. IBSCoding.com he did attend Simley High School

[Pat]

and the University of North Carolina.

[Joe]

Yes. There you go. He's had a really good run down there.

[Pat]

So you know what today is, gentlemen, don't you? The 20th the Seattle Seahawks officially reported for training camp.

[Joe]

No and no. It is also the birthday of Christopher Ricey. Happy birthday. Second. My second son. Yes, it is.

[Patrick]

Okay, wait a minute. What does that mean? Other teams will be going shortly.

[Pat]

Vikings will be reporting in 11 days.

[Joe]

Why is Seattle going to. Do they play the Hawkins?

[Pat]

I think they must be, right? It says that they're the first ones to report there was a World cup

[Patrick]

game in their ballpark, wasn't there?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I think we rated their front office not only for the general manager, but for his assistant full his own tread. Trent Kirchner.

[Pat]

That's true.

[Patrick]

That's right.

[Joe]

Yeah. We're rating. We rated the Seahawks.

[Patrick]

So are the Vikes the favorites going into the season for the Central Division?

[Joe]

I would guess it's probably the Bears. North.

[Patrick]

North. I'm serious.

[Joe]

The North, I don't think has a bad team. No.

[Pat]

It was the only division that had all four teams with winning records last year.

[Joe]

Well, ours didn't really count. You know, ours was a bit. Ours was a bad idea to win the last five. It was a bad idea because you didn't. You.

[Pat]

You slipped in the draft.

[Joe]

Draft, for God's sakes. You know, so football.

[Pat]

It'll Be here before you know it.

[Patrick]

Joe, that's a bad time because that just means summer's almost over.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yes. Yes. How many. You know what I noticed last night? I don't. Usually don't notice this, but I was going out to cook a couple of brats at 9 o'. Clock. It was getting dark. Yeah, it was getting dark. Joe, we've peaked back a few days before that. It was bluebird out there.

[Pat]

Joe, it's already fall for you.

[Patrick]

Well, as a royal order of the 21st.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Patrick]

We're in a long, long, beautiful autumn.

[Joe]

Hey, did we pass the. Did both houses pass the permanent daylight savings?

[Patrick]

It dropped out of the news.

[Joe]

I don't know.

[Patrick]

I don't know what.

[Joe]

To the House and went to the Senate or the other way around.

[Patrick]

I don't know where it stands.

[Joe]

Are we for.

[Patrick]

I. I'm not. I don't want the sun up at 9am on a winter morning. We need some light before then.

[Pat]

The biennial changing the clocks has not been abolished according to the AI over overview on Google.

[Patrick]

Yes, I don't mind changing the clocks. It's kind of festive. Spring ahead, fall back, the whole deal.

[Joe]

As. As an aging guy.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Joe]

It test my.

[Pat]

Your memory?

[Joe]

No, it tests my ability to change the clock because we got the one that's open.

[Pat]

I know what it is.

[Joe]

We got the one that's over the door in the kitchen.

[Pat]

Yeah, no, I know what it is. You feel as though your knack scale has increased.

[Joe]

Hey, I changed the clock. And I judged myself by how many times it takes me to hit the nails. Cause it's up there. And this year it was only three or four. There was one year it took like 40. I had to take like three breaks.

[Pat]

He attributes that to changing a transmission.

[Patrick]

There's a hook on the back of a little hole in it that has to. Yeah, that's the hard. Yeah, that's tough.

[Pat]

And do you give them.

[Joe]

And then when I let out a bellow, the wife thinks I've gone nuts because I say, hey, yay. Four tries and I got. And then you gotta make sure it's not a false.

[Patrick]

Oh, I know.

[Joe]

Yeah. Cause. Yeah, you gotta make sure it's really stuck there. So then you gotta kinda tap it kind of stuff.

[Patrick]

You know what you gotta do?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Patrick]

This year.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Patrick]

You gotta go and you gotta just stand there. You gotta kind of look at it like this. Look and look and plan and then pounce.

[Joe]

Then pounce. Oh, I wanted to tell you one thing about sprinkling. You know, you go to hunt this morning.

[Patrick]

I'm an expert.

[Joe]

Our new lawn people the last couple years. Fantastic. A couple. This gal's gotta be 60. She comes driving up in her truck and unloads the damn moor. And by herself. And then the hubby's off someplace else. They've been watering the front lawn. Oh, we got alfalfa out there. You know, we usually have nothing, but it's.

[Patrick]

What do you mean? They stand there with a hose?

[Joe]

No, they got to set up the hose and it does it automatically.

[Patrick]

Oh, boy.

[Joe]

Now, we had a little problem with. We were. We were watering the street there for a while.

[Patrick]

Are you talking. You got the. In ground irrigation now?

[Joe]

No, we got. But we got. They set the timer up and it goes. And when the grass gets a lot of water on it, you know what it does?

[Patrick]

It grows.

[Joe]

What a concept.

[Patrick]

Yeah. That's why you like drought.

[Joe]

Yes. Because it doesn't grow. Although I have not touched a lawnmower at least 15 years now, so.

[Patrick]

Well, it's a record. You. You enjoy.

[Joe]

Yes. The wife was still being the mower 12 years ago.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And she retired and we gave away all three lawnmowers. So, you know, we give these.

[Patrick]

And you really didn't need three. You would just buy one when last year's wouldn't start.

[Joe]

Yes. That's pretty. What? No, I think most of them lasted two years, really. And then they wouldn't start, so we'd give it away and buy a new one.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Same guy. He loved us. You know, Same. Same little. Get out there and mow. Yes. Yes. You know what? She used to chuckle at that. Not anymore.

[Pat]

Not anymore.

[Joe]

Not anymore.

[Patrick]

No.

[Joe]

No.

[Patrick]

All right, I'm done.

[Pat]

Well, she's on the lawnmower. She's ready to pounce.

[Joe]

You've had some of these moments. What do you think? The time of. The time of getting back to. We can say, how you doing?

[Patrick]

You know, another week.

[Joe]

It's about another week. Yeah. Yeah.

[Patrick]

How you doing?

[Mark Ellis]

All right.

[Joe]

I'm not talking full conversation.

[Patrick]

No, no, no.

[Joe]

Just pleasantry. Come here. Yeah.

[Pat]

Maybe start with a nod like you're

[Joe]

feeling good today, honey. Yeah. And you don't. You don't get a. You don't get a nasty response. So anyway. You don't get a what?

[Patrick]

I think everything will smooth out.

[Joe]

You don't get a. You don't give a damn kind of response.

[Patrick]

Had to go to Chicago.

[Joe]

Yeah, right. Oh, well, all right.

[Pat]

See you later.