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Weekly scramble commencing in 3, 2.
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This is the weekly Scramble, a place where we chat about life over a
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It's time to belly up to the pod with Mike Fratelloni and your host, Chris Reivers.
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Hi, welcome to the Weekly Scramble Podcast. My name is Chris Reivers. With me as always, his name is Mike Fratelloni. Hello, Michael.
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How you doing, Reivers?
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I'm doing great. It's that highly productive day before you have a week off for me. So full disclosure, this show is gonna run on Tuesday, next week in our absence, and we are recording it Friday afternoon. So if something breaking happens between now and Tuesday, we're trying to stay on top of it. We're just. You and I both have plans.
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I do have to make a quick correction about yesterday's show or last Thursday's show, if you're listening. On Tuesday I that I had to buy my parents 65th anniversary dinner.
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How did it go?
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It was absolutely fantastic. And I went to go talk to the lady and said, hey, the three kids, my sister, my brother and I are paying. And she said, I've already been instructed that if you guys come up and ask to do that, I say, thank you, but no thank you. Your father is paying, period. So my dad paid for the whole thing. And then my brother and sister said, we gotta find a way to do it. And I said, no, no, he's an adult man. He's throwing his party. Oh, by the way, he has more dollars in his bank than I do. He can go ahead and pay for his family. In which He's a very generous person. He wouldn't let anyone else do it. But I had said in the last show that we did it, but we didn't.
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Your dad is so awesome.
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He's really a great guy. So is my mom. We got up and told stories and they just, they. We are a dirty family of dirty minded people. And my brother in law, who's a real nice guy, he's a really, really great guy. But he doesn't swear. Like he's just a clean cut guy.
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Not that I want to turn this into the Fratelloni family fan line.
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Y yeah.
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A guy that's owned a hardware store for a billion years, he has got to have some amazing stories.
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He does, he does have a lot of great stories and he remembers everything. So we did this game like what story does dad tell when this situation happened? And one of the questions was one time when we were at the Lonnie kai down in Fort Myers and the room was $149. And way back then that was really a lot for the Lonnikai. And I said, what was dad most angry about? And my sister jumps up that they broke the bar of soap in half. They only gave us a half a bar. Cause they were there for a night and he lost his mind that they didn't give us, you know, a half, a little, one of those little travel soaps. And he lost his mind because like you're giving me a half a bar of soap for one night in this hotel. So we told stories reminiscent of that, of the memories that we've had over the last 65 years. Mine are only 55 years because obviously I'm only 55 years old, but it was really, really a lot of fun.
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That is so cool. You know, I don't think I've ever asked you this. And again, not to turn this into your family's fan line, but why did your dad get into the hardware business?
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So he was working for Sears and Harmar Mall.
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Right.
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Sears used to be very, very successful. And back in the 60s and 70s, as a salesman for Sears, you made a lot of money. A commission salesman. So he would sell appliances. And he was one of those kind of a hustler guys that would say, okay, that appliance over there, that one's on sale. You sit on it, I'm going to go help this other person write this order. So you would have multiple orders going at a time. And he was making so much money that they came to him and said, I think commissions are too high. We're going to have to lower everyone's commissions. And he's like, oh, well, so I'm a great salesman and you're going to lower my commissions because I'm great at it. I'm paraphrasing for him. He would never call himself a great salesman, but he was doing so well that they said, yeah, we're going to cut it. And he said, I'm not doing it. So his good friend Skip Borgstrom owned a Coast to coast store in Harmar Mall. Many of you may remember that. It's where the TCF bank is now. He owned the Coast to coast. So he and my dad were friends because their stores were right next to each other. And Skip said, arden Hills probably needs a hardware store, right? He was in Roseville and Arden Hills was the next big town. And back in 1970s, when you drove north on Snelling and you got off on County Road E, it became dirt. It was a dirt road, right? I mean, that's how. I mean, it was nothing up there. Like really nothing up there. So the Arden plaza opened in 1975, the mall opened. We put a hardware store in it. And I remember he, like, a couple of things happened right off the bat. He said, I'm never going to work Sundays. Never going to work Sundays. Then he was in there working on a Sunday and people kept coming up to the door open, trying to open the door, and he's like, I guess I'm open some of this. We also carried handguns and rifles.
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Oh, wow.
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And the first night we were there, someone broke in and stole them all. He's like, well, I'm not selling guns anymore. Like, everything changed. He learned how to do the business right from there. So that was our first store in arden Hills in 1975. We subsequently moved down to where the IGA supermarket was. We bought the end of the building, so we owned part of that building and moved our store. And I remember we had been in arden Hills for 20, 30 years or something, right? A long time in the same spot. And we move from in the middle of the mall to the end of the mall where the grocery store was. And a woman came in. She goes, oh, thank God there's a hardware store in town now. I thought, what? We've been here for 30 years, 140ft down the mall, right? It was really, really funny. But it just shows that not everybody knows. When you think everybody knows well.
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And it's funny you mentioned the gravel road aspect because people don't realize I was showing a photo to my Son of the old Met, where the Mall of America is currently. I said, because he said, well, where's that? Because my oldest son is really nerding out when it comes to sports stuff, especially sports history. And it's been kind of cool because my dad's been teaching them about the old twins, like the 65 team and when the All Star game was here and all that stuff. And so my dad had a book and showed him this photo of the old Met. Because I was asking my dad because I don't ever have a memory of going to Met Stadium for either a Vikings game or Twins game because I was born in 77. And I said, did I ever go to the Met? And he said, I think I may have brought you to one game, but I don't remember off the top of my head. And so we were showing my 14 year old the old Met. He goes, well, how come it was out in the middle of the country? I said, buddy, that's where the Mall of America is.
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That's where the Mall of America is. It used to be farmland, which is really weird. It's changed quite quickly. If you want to really do something for your son, express to him that the game of baseball was played by just white guys not that many years ago. And now it's because, you know, a kid of today's age, he's not seeing it anymore. Right? His favorite player is whoever, he doesn't care. And it's a quite different dynamic. 60 years ago.
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I cannot believe you're saying this. He, back in February, did a piece on Jackie Robinson.
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Oh, he did, okay.
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And he wrote in his teacher. So this would have been. Would that have been social studies or whatever class it was. His teacher emailed it to me and Jess and said, this is brilliant, Brilliant. He's become a. Anyway, not that I want to turn this bragging into my kid, but he did write a piece about the segregation. I go, oh my God. My 14 year old just wrote this to the point where last Tuesday he wrote a book. Really literally wrote a book in a day about. It was like he's kind of into tell it like storytelling with. Not horror, but scary kind of. He's just kind of fascinated with the whole Halloween aspect and things like that. He did that in a day.
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Really?
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It's just, it's amazing. Anyway, so he's such a nerd.
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And I absolutely, in a great way,
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in an awesome way.
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I can't wait till he sits down with his first love. And he says, do you know Jackie Robinson played and she'll be like, I don't know or care who Jackie Robinson is.
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When I was 14, my dad made us get in a car. We drove, we did a road trip because he's too cheap to fly us anywhere. We went to, like, 16 baseball stadiums.
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Yeah, those are memories. You're a good dad. Good for you. That's very smart of you to do it.
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I always say this, and you and Joe both like to rip me for that, but it's like the time that you get in the vehicle, there's the little things that happen that a flight can't replicate. You can't replicate stopping at some gas station in the middle of nowhere because there's a story that develops from it, and you just don't even know what's going to happen. I mean, I've just always kind of been a sucker. Because here's the thing, you know, your. Your kids are getting older, right? I know that that day's coming for me, too. That. That it's only going to be a couple more years and he's going to have a driver's license, and I'm never going to see him again.
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There is no way he's not going to go to Mankato State, because then you'll have a reason to drive over to Mankato State and see him on whatever he's doing over there.
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Glory days.
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Dad, you have to go home. You cannot sleep in my dorm room.
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Please get off the floor.
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Dad, you're embarrassing me.
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Speaking of sports, let's do it. That's where I wanted to start the show today.
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Something new happened.
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Well, Mike, I don't know if you know this, but the wnba. And again, I just want to let everybody know we're recording this on Friday.
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A lot can happen in the wnba,
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but the WNBA and most notably Minnesota Links head coach Cheryl Reeve, for whatever reason, decided to get involved in the entire trans movement as to whether or not a biological male that now claims that they're a female or a trans woman or trans, whatever that is, a trans woman should be able to play women's sports because it's the most inclusive
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of all sports is the wnba.
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Right. And I know head coach Sherive was very outspoken about that. And that I believe was in reference or a reaction to Sophie Cunningham coming out and saying, hey, we need to stand up for girls rights. Because there was two kids at the Seattle game that were. That had the xy, whatever, XXXY signs.
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And the coach screamed at them.
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It was the owner.
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And the owner screamed at and use the f Word shocking.
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Which, again, I don't know who's in charge of PR with the wnba. They need to fire that person immediately.
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Brilliant.
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Look, we're talking about talking about them.
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How much do you talk about the Frost?
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Not much.
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Not much.
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So what you're saying is they need to get one of the Hughes brothers to go play for the Frost and everything will be on par our season.
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Hughes brothers playing for the Frost.
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So on Friday, Enos Kantor issued a tweet. And I gotta say, I knew who Enes Kanter was. This is absolutely brilliant. So Enos Kanter is a former NBA player and he issued the following tweet last Friday. After careful consideration and reviewing the current eligibility guidelines, I'm officially declaring myself a WNBA prospect. If simply declaring who you are is all that's required, then I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WNBA. My team and I have carefully examined the WNBA's eligibility criteria and governing framework surrounding self identification and inclusion. Based upon the current guidelines, I can and am officially declaring my eligibility for the upcoming WNBA draft in April of 2027. I know my presence on the court will stir up strong opinions. I am definitely not here to mock, make fun of, or disrespect any community or personal choices. I'm simply asking that the current rules be applied equally to everyone. The rules that represent the very values many WNBA players and coaches have publicly advocated for. My team and I are prepared to ensure that these guidelines are applied equally consistently and without exception. And I look forward to the WNBA honoring its stated principles. I will see you at training camp. Enos Kanter, Dash Freedom.
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And he's just. He's just making them do what they said they would do is what he's trying to do. He's saying, hey, you're saying this is what you have to do to qualify. And remind me, he's a real tall player.
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He's 6 10. And I know he played for the Thunder. I'll look up his bio.
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He's 34 years old, 6 foot 10. I wonder if he'd be the best player in the wnb. I'm just kidding. I'm so sorry. Of course he'd be the best player in the wwe.
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Of course he would.
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So if you don't know Enos Kantor, first of all, he changed his name from Enos Cantor to Enos Cantor freedom. Right. In 2022, he was nominated. I didn't know this. He was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize for his work with global activism against the authoritarian regimes, highlighting human rights Abuses in Turkey and China exclusively and predominantly with the chines, capture and slavery of the Uyghur population in China.
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It's.
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It is really. I don't know what they can do to this. Well, what are they going to say?
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So his bio is as follows. He played 11 years in the NBA. Excuse me. From 2011 until 2022, he played for Utah, Oklahoma City, the Knicks, Portland and Boston. And he averaged 11.2 points for his NBA career. He had a really nice career. Probably made some money. Right? Because even bench players in the NBA.
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I'll look up his net worth. It's going to be like 800.
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I actually have it right here. I'm just trying to scroll to the bottom of the page because basketball reference and baseball reference, while they're great, it takes a long time to get to the bottom. He has made in his career. Around $105 million playing basketball. That's a pretty good career. Pretty good career. Take home. Especially playing in New York. Take home. He's probably made somewhere in the neighborhood of $60 million. Let's just call it that. So he doesn't need the money, but I think he's really doing yeoman's service. Is that what you would say?
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Yeah. God's work.
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Because the thing is, he's pointing out exactly why this is such a joke as to what they're doing.
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Use the word joke, but it's not funny. This is not funny. This is coming to a head. We can't have this where half the population says, you can be whatever you want to be. And I'll have to respect that. Right? Because that. I don't know if that's the right answer. And I want to be very careful with this. Right. I don't want to be. I don't hold any ill will to someone who thinks they're in the wrong body, that they are the wrong gender. I don't hold anybody in disdain with that.
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That would be horrible. Can I help you? And if I'm incorrect, please go ahead and correct any part of this. You and I think cut from the same cloth with this. I don't care if you want to be trans, go be trans. That's completely fine. I don't care. If you want to be gay, be gay. That's completely up to you. That's what makes this country great. You will get to live your life however you see fit, as long as you don't hurt anybody else. I'm completely cool with it. You want to be trans, whatever. I don't care. The Problem is when you start to inflict your desires on everyone else and I'm supposed to just pretend and play make believe with you, that's when I have a problem.
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Sure. Forced make believe.
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Forced make believe. That's when I have a problem. Like last year, remember the controversy surrounding the Minnesota fast pitch, the high school tournament? There was a biological boy playing in the girls tournament. It was for a northern suburb team, I can't remember off the top of my head. And they ended up winning the state championship. And I was celebrating like, oh, what a great cause. Well, okay, fine, sure. But what about all the teams that that person, and she was dominant through this run. What about all those other teams? What about all those other girls that got up at five o' clock in the morning and trained and fought so hard and ended up losing a team that had a boy pitching for them? How is that fair to the rest of those girls?
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Yeah, and you want to be fair. Okay, let's. I don't want to use the word pretend, but let's build a scenario in our brains where that boy that was playing for the girls softball team, the boy that felt he was a woman. Let's take that as truth. Right. So I have a bunch of compassion for that person. Right. That kid said, I feel like I was born in the wrong body and I now feel like I'm a girl and I should be able to play on the girls team. The problem is, is it's unfair to the other girls. It's not fair to 50% of the population when we're talking about sports. Right. It's unfair to that 50% of the population because usually men are dominant in sports, in almost all physical sports because they're just bigger and faster and whatever. Have different setups. Right. Different biology. And it's. So instead of having that kid have the sadness exclusively because they were built in the wrong body, it's everyone else has to feel it. Right. And it's not everyone. I get that. But it's the other kids on the team, other teams saying, hey, I can't compete with this. That kid throws too fast.
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I looked up Marissa Rothenberger. Oh, yeah, this is the boy that is a transgender girl. Again, I'm not trying to be. I really want to be clear on that. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm trying to explain it to our listeners. They have it in here saying she. She led her team to Class 4A state championship at Champlin, Champlin Chaplin.
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Yep.
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Her dominant performance is the reason they went 12 and 1. She went 12 and 1. Her ERA was 74 for the season. And she pitched, which I find kind of repugnant. She pitched six shutout games to win the title. So she was the one pitcher they used they didn't use anywhere else. They. Marissa, you're going to pitch every game, period.
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Well, keep this in mind, though. Fast pitch is different than baseball, where one pitcher can throw every game, you
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just use one pitcher. You don't bother ever switching up your pitcher.
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I'll give you a perfect example. So a really good friend of mine, his daughter, Kylan Stangle, I've known her since she was born. She pitched for Mankato East. She now pitches at the U of M. And she basically pitched every game for them in the playoffs in the state.
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Really? Okay, so that's not a rarity.
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That's not a rare. I mean, oftentimes if a team's really good, they'll probably have more than one pitcher. But when you have a workhorse, a
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stud, you don't have a team of guys because it's throwing pitches.
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Keep in mind, it's a completely different throwing motion. So you're not. Not that it's not difficult. I'm not trying to make light of it. It's just, it's. You're. You're able to recover way faster than you are.
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Is her ERA better than 0.74, do you think?
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Well, she ended up pitching D1. Yeah.
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I mean, 0.74 seems awfully low.
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Yeah. I mean, well, honestly, if you have a really good. Do you ever watch the college softball?
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You know, occasionally I have watched college softball. They're quite good.
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And it's hard to. Because I remember, I'll never forget this. We were in high school, and I want to get to that in a second. We were in high school and a bunch of us, we had baseball practice just outside of the high school and the fast pitch coach, they were coming up and getting set. Because the softball field was kind of right next to where the high school field practice field was. And the fast pitch coach said, all right, boys, you want to give it a shot? And the fast pitch coach, he was really good.
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Yes.
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And so we all got in there. And keep in mind, you're at a much closer distance. Right? So the ball's coming on you a lot quicker. None of us could touch him. Not one of us could hit him, you know, So I always, you know, I have an appreciation for it because I know how difficult it is. But I'm getting way off track here. But that's the problem that I think so many parents have. Like, I don't have a daughter. And I know you have three.
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Sure.
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But I don't have a daughter. But I would be enraged if I was forced to sit there and be quiet. And I know, I do know parents that had to go up against this person in both regular season and in post season play. The one that guided the team, the Champlain team, to the state title. And they were outraged by this, but they couldn't say anything. Because the second that you. And that's the society that we've created.
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I don't want to be that person who says, hey, I would have. My daughters were in gymnastics, which there is no comparison between female and male gymnastics. If a man was on the woman's team, it's game changing. Every gymnast in the world would admit that.
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But they played really high level competitive volleyball.
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They played high level competitive volleyball. And if there would have been a boy on a different team, I would have said, you might have to sit this one out. I don't want you getting hurt. I don't. Because, I mean, chances of getting hurt are real.
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Well, we saw it. There was a college team where there was a man competing against women. And he was hurting other players on the other team.
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Don't disrespect the kid who's going through it. That's the point that I want to make. There's something. I won't wish that upon anybody. Right. How would you like to wake up and say, I feel like I'm in the wrong body? That would be kind of tough.
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Okay. But I also think that this is a. This is something that has happened with greater frequency within the last 10 years.
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You're saying it's instead of nature, 100%. Yeah. That society. And I think that is proved because they had California, like, where 12% of the kids are saying they might be transgender. And then In Utah, it's like.041% or something. It's a totally different number.
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Well, I don't. And I don't know if you saw this, but I was looking up this stat. Apparently there has been a 500% increase in testicular injuries in women's sports over the last 10 years.
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I've heard that. I was listening to a thing from Cynthia Nixon. Do you remember her from Sex in the City of the Red Hat?
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Oh, yeah.
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Not one. Like the one that everyone's like, yeah, I'm stuck.
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Whatever.
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Okay. That was. It was the ugly friend in the group. Right. Well, she has, like two transgender children. Right. Which is statistically very, very rare. Right. And then she says, every one of my friends. And this is her quote, you know, not verbatim, but her quote, every one of my friends has at least one transgender child. And I'm like, how. How. That's gotta be something to do with nurture. Right. The way that child was brought up or the environment that they were in.
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Right.
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It's environmental, not necessarily nature. Right.
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Well, and it's. It's. I don't know if you're familiar with J.K. rowling.
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Sure.
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And she's been very outspoken about this entire movement, and in a mean way, too. But what I've appreciated about her is she's just not. She said, I'm not gonna pretend.
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I'm not gonna pretend.
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And I'll never forget, she had one of the greatest. I mean, she's a great follow on social. She don't give a damn.
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Sure. She doesn't care.
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And someone said, because of JK There was a tweet that said, because of JK Rowling. And she was tagged because of Krolling, I'm gonna burn all my Harry Potter books. Or something like that. Right. And she said, well, you still paid for them.
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Yeah, he still paid for them. I still got the 84 bucks, so don't worry. That would be better. You can't give them to anyone else to read, so they'll have to get their new copies.
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And I guess, again, I'm sympathetic because I understand that. But at the same time, it's because when you see. What was the gal from the movie Juno, that Ellen Page. Thank you. When you see the photos of beautiful Ellen Page, and now it's like you can sense the unhappiness in their face and in their eyes. And I don't know if that's a decision based, but whatever. Right. It's why I Don't get. I don't get why there's almost this inherent pressure to. I've got to speak up for a cause or I've got to be part of this movement. You know what I mean? And that's the part that's kind of just. It's unfortunate.
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Well, the Lynx coach had the shirt that said, protect trans children. And it's like, okay, yeah, I don't want a kid to have any problems,
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and none of us are advocating for anything harmful to happen to them.
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Why is this happening? Why is it happening at such an alarming rate? And is it. Are there parents out there that would rather have a trans child than a non trans child? And I bet you anything there are. There are parents out there that I would say, oh, I would love to have a trans child. And that would be surprising to me. That sounds like a tougher road.
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Look up Megan Fox.
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Children are all her kids.
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All three of her kids are trans.
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How?
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How is that possible? How is that possible? Statistically impossible.
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That would be statistically impossible.
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And it's because, yes, you're a smoke show, but you're also freaking nuts. Yeah, I'm talking about Megan Fox, not the kids.
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So were they boys that turned into girls or girls that turned into.
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I think it's a combination of the
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three, because I think if my mom was that hot, I'd maybe figure out. I'd be like, she's an exceptionally pretty woman, right?
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Yeah, she's just crazy train.
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Is she? Yeah. I mean, that could just be California and Hollywood and the lifestyle and convincing your children that when they want to play with a doll that, oh, maybe you're trans. I don't know. I don't know the answer to this. This is a very difficult one. But maybe Enos can't her freedom. Nobel Prize nominated author. Author Enos Kanter can figure this out when he joins the WNBA next year.
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And I was so disturbed by Megan Fox that I only watched the movie subservience at least 63 times. You told me.
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That's one I need to see.
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I'm gonna tell you right now.
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Okay. I've never even seen it.
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It's highly disturbing, but you're gonna enjoy
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every second of it.
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All right, well, you know the plot, right?
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Yeah. It's something about how computers take over, like gynoids take over the future.
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So she is a robot.
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Gynoid.
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Gynoid female robot. And the loses his wife in the movie. And Megan Fox is basically created to take care of the family, like cook and clean and whatever.
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I totally love it. I mean, I don't want to lose my wife, don't get me wrong. But I mean, if they're making them to look like Megan Fox, that's gonna
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be a tough no. So you're saying we need to get in on it now, Invest in that stock right now? No.
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I don't know what I would do if I could get a back rub.
B
We have come off someone nice, make
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me a sandwich and say nice things to me. Maybe give me a back rub once in a while.
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The trailer alone for the movie gentlemen out there, the trailer alone is worth
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your best not look at it. I'm already on the mental edge.
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Yeah, you better not do that.
A
Yeah, before I'm going to start buying Tesla stock, just seeing if my car will talk to me nicely.
B
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Done.
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I mentioned high school baseball practice and I have. Well, by the time people hear this it would already have happened. I have my 30 year high school reunion this weekend.
A
Oh this is gonna be great.
B
And I missed our 20. I forget why. I can't remember if we were out of town on a family vacation or something. I didn't go. I went to the 15 year. In fact it was great at my 15 year old Jess was pregnant with William because he's now 14 years old. So all of me and my buddies had a free driver.
A
Sober cab.
B
Sober cab for the whole night. It was fantastic. So I've kind of been going back for. Gosh, should I go? Should I go? I'm gonna go. You know I gotta go. I gotta go.
A
See because you had a class of what, 85 or something or was your class huge?
B
My class was 330something and you know
A
a lot of them.
B
Yeah. In fact I still stay in touch with quite a few of them. Well, the thing is when you play sports, especially like after school, a bunch of us still played town ball together up until like 15 years ago. So some of us stayed pretty close. And most people that I was close with kind of moved away from town, including myself. You know, I moved away from Faribault
A
all the way to the big cities. Jordan, Minnesota.
B
Well it is funny how I went from Mankato to the city to a little bit closer, a little bit closer, a little bit closer. But anyway, but it is going to be fun and I the only. It's like it hasn't been 30 years? Yeah, it's been 30 years that you've been out of high school, man.
A
Here's what I predict. Some people will look unbelievably good. Because 30 years, you're still young, right? You're at your 48, late 40s. And now with technology, women can look totally different, right? Everyone's gonna look thin. Cause now with more technology, everybody can get thin, right? But then there's gonna be a handful of people that look like your dad. You're gonna be like, what? Like there's gonna be 50 year old guys that look 65 years old or 75 years old.
B
I gotta tell you, it's funny you say that, because we were down in Faribault. Oh, I remember it was before one of our town ball games. And the boys and I stopped in at the local large retailer to pick up Gatorade and things like that, right? And we were in the self checkout line and I was just BSing or doing whatever with the kids. And we're just, oh, yeah, we gotta go do this, we gotta do that. I'm in my farewell Laker uniform and behind me I hear Reavers. Hey. And I turned and I didn't recognize the person, like, at all, at all.
A
And does your Lakers jersey have your name on the back of it?
B
Well, no, but my, my warm up shirt does have my last name. But they didn't see that. But they knew they, they recognized me, okay?
A
They knew it was you, okay?
B
And so I started talking to them and I'm like, oh, God, who is this? Then finally it dawned on me, and this person looked significantly older than me.
A
Oh, really?
B
I mean, significantly older than me. And so isn't that sick? I said, oh, you know, or you
A
look the exact same. You just don't think you do.
B
But it was funny because I, you know, and great guy and a wonderful family asked about his family, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so we got in the car and my oldest son said, well, who is that? I go, well, he and I went to high school together. He's like, that guy's the same age as you are. I said, yeah, you know, sometimes, you know, you age a little bit quicker and kids make you age real fast, son. Anyway, so it was. It's funny you say that because it happened not long ago playing golf with a guy.
A
And he kept kind of referring to us, oh, you know, people our age, blah, blah, blah, and talking. And eventually he said, well, how old are you, Mike? And I did have a hat on the whole time, right? And I Did have sunglasses on the whole time we were playing golf. And I said, well, I'm 55. And he's like, well, I'm 68. I am way older than you. And I wanted to say, yeah, no shit. You kept saying we were the same age. We're not the same age. By the way, he was an infinitely better golfer than I am.
B
Right.
A
So I was like, oh, crap. And I would kind of say things to him like, have you always been a really long hitter? There's very few guys his age. And I might have even said like, our age. Kind of like throwing it out, like adult man age. Right. But then when he found out there was a 13 year old, I was like, yeah, no, dude, you're way older than me. Okay, first name that without thinking, who do you want to see? Who do you want to see at your. Nope, you're thinking, open your eyes. Who do you want to see? Didn't you have a crush on some chick? There's got to be some girl that you had a crush on that you just want to see. You don't want to marry. You don't want to chase her down. You just want to see her and see if she aged like a fine wine.
B
Okay, I'll tell you. You. I'll say the name at the end, but I'm going to set it up for you in this way because I've actually already told her this story, so it'll be totally cool.
A
Okay.
B
So I don't know if you're supposed to be doing it. Did I ever tell you the story about why I started working at the hardware store in Farewell, Minnesota?
A
It's the same reason most boys do it. There's a chick there.
B
100%. Yes.
A
Okay.
B
Jada Augustine was the cashier at the Philippe Ace Hardware in Farewell, Minnesota. And I remember going there and applying because my buddy Spencer was already working there. And I said, well, I can do better than Spencer gets. That's 100% the reason why I started working there. And then it ended up that I loved that job. I. I worked there for what, almost four years through high school. And then when. Even when I was out of high school, I loved that job.
A
It was great people, great f. Oh,
B
the Philippines were awesome. And I loved working at the. But that's. So she might be there. So that's 100% the reason why I started working at that store.
A
That's exciting. Is she married?
B
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And her husband's awesome.
A
But you're excited to see her and say hello?
B
Yeah. And Other people there, in fact, her husband at. What was it? We had a different get together. It might have even been a different reunion. I can't remember. But her husband and I were totally BSing and whatever. And I said, yeah, you know, Jade had to fight all the boys off in high school, blah, blah, blah. And he started laughing. He's a great dude. Really, really good dude. But, yeah, so there was a lot of that. But that's kind of the thing you're looking forward to. But for me, it's going to be the one thing I really want to avoid is the. Okay, the first hour or maybe two have been a lot of fun, but then everyone's going to get drunk.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
And then it's going to be you rem like, Uncle Rico, I could throw a football over them. No, you can't. But that's the only thing that I. Little bit of the apprehension I'm having about Saturday night.
A
So having a poor memory like myself, I forget things that might have hurt me. Right. I just don't remember. So it's kind of a blessing to have a poor memory because I don't. If someone was really mean to me 10 years ago, it kind of just. I don't remember it anymore. Right. But it made my 35th reunion kind of like I was in a room full of strangers. Like, I knew a couple people, and when I say a couple, I mean, like less than a handful. And everyone else was kind of a stranger to me. And I thought, oh, this kind of sucks. It just didn't feel good. You, on the other hand, don't forget people. You don't forget anything. You probably remember batting averages of some of the guys on your team that
B
I don't think I can recall that because the stats and the books weren't as prevalent with instant.
A
You couldn't study them.
B
Yeah.
A
They weren't on your phone.
B
Yeah. With instant communication like we have now. But if we had that back then I probably would remember. But yeah. So it'll be fun. I'm not saying it won't be, but it'll be fun.
A
I'm excited to hear. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I'm excited to hear the fun you're gonna have, the dancing you're gonna do, the spirits you'll drink. You should bring some harmony.
B
Oh, 100%.
A
That would be kind of fun.
B
I forgot to bring this up when we were doing the Fratelloni family fan line at the beginning of the show, and I don't know if you're comfortable doing this. But because we had talked about it on the show, soon, fine. Bernice wanted to know what restaurant. Cause she said, you guys, Mike is an expert on restaurants. So whatever restaurant they took their family to, she was just. Because she wants to.
A
Can I do a snooty like.
B
Oh, we did. We did it at our private club.
A
Is that the. Did I sound snooty there? Yeah, yeah, that was at our private country club.
B
Gotcha.
A
Okay, okay.
B
Because I. Because she said Mike always gives great recommendations on restaurants. So she was.
A
Thank you. That's really great. If she's looking for something, let me try and we'll go out there together. Because you are Mr.
B
Going Out.
A
I'm doing this thing down, you know, with the frat pack. And we bought the store in Hastings, Fraternities bought the Terry store in Hastings. And I did a post down there at find it at frats Post, where I hide all these things in the store. People come in and find them. Well, Hastings knows how to play find it at frats right off the bat. They were very, very good at it. So I put in the post. And if you're on the frat pack, you can tell me too, if you're from Hastings, like, where to go in Hastings to try these restaurants. Because I'm gonna go to the ice cream shop, buy some gift cards, hide gift cards for Fraterloni's in their place, and hide their gift cards in our place to kind of cross multiply everybody in town. And, boy, I'm getting some incredible feedback on that post. I'm gonna tell you, Reivers, our show gets a lot of viewers, you know, tens and tens of thousands of viewers. Right? Not necessarily on YouTube, but lots of listeners. Like, we have a very popular show. I can do a post on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok that will have 400,000 people see it in one day.
B
Wow.
A
It is shocking how powerful social media can be.
B
It really is.
A
It's weird.
B
And that's why every 18 to 25 year old wants to do that as a career.
A
And that's why every 18 and 25 year old, that's their source of news is their social media. So we put something up yesterday. I think it's at like 90,000 people have seen it. We. The demarcation point was only in Hastings. I know. There's probably not even 90,000 people in Hastings. It's bleeding over, boy. I'm hoping that every man, woman and child can see that. We took over in Hastings.
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A
Michael, breaking news a little bit here. Oh, the singer Sting has been kidnapped.
B
You're kidding me.
A
The worst part, the police have no lead.
B
Jesus.
A
I always hate doing those because people, I'm sure somebody heard that and said Sting's been kidnapped. But the joke was the police have no lead.
B
We referenced Sting on GL the other day.
A
Tantric sex.
B
Thank you. That's exactly what I think of.
A
That's all I think of.
B
Maybe that wasn't a break because there's no way Joe would have participated or allowed that to be on the show. Maybe it was a break.
A
When I do tantric sex and then Royce, he was. When you do tantric sex every day, that's the last thing I ever want to hear Joe or Pat talk about is Sting's form of tantric. Doesn't he have like 11 day orgasms or something like that?
B
Something like that.
A
That's about 11 days too much in my book.
B
Too much work.
A
That's right, Reavers, you are the best.
B
Please do us a favor. Rate and review the show wherever you happen to be. Listening to the weekly Scramble podcast. It helps others find the show. It helps us out as well. And we appreciate each and every single one of you. His name is Mike Fratelloni. My name is Chris Reivers. Thank you so very much for listening to the weekly Scramble podcast. We'll talk to you again next time. Until then, cheers.
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Com.
Garage Logic: Weekly Scramble – “Enes Kanter Freedom Declares Himself 2027 WNBA Prospect, Cites Eligibility Rules”
Podcast: Garage Logic
Host: Chris Reuvers (B) with Mike Fratelloni (A)
Date: August 11, 2026
Episode Theme:
This episode of the Weekly Scramble centers on former NBA player Enes Kanter Freedom’s viral statement declaring himself eligible for the 2027 WNBA draft, using the backdrop of current debates about gender self-identification and eligibility in women’s sports. The hosts discuss the broader cultural, social, and sporting implications of gender identity, the response from the WNBA, and wider issues surrounding fairness and inclusion in youth sports. Episodes of family anecdotes and nostalgic school stories lighten the mood while the main topic is thoughtfully (and often humorously) dissected.
[09:57–12:28, 13:56]
Chris Reuvers reads Enes Kanter Freedom’s tweet in full, noting Kanter’s careful, tongue-in-cheek use of WNBA policy language on self-identification and inclusion.
Mike Fratelloni points out Kanter’s intention is to highlight inconsistencies and push the league to confront its own rules, not to mock or disrespect trans individuals.
The hosts review Enes Kanter’s NBA career and activism:
[10:28–24:03]
Reaction to WNBA coach/owner’s public response to trans/gender protests and discourse around trans inclusion in the league.
Minnesota high school softball controversy:
Parents’ frustration with being forced to accept what feels unfair to their daughters.
[24:19–25:38]
The hosts question why there has been a dramatic increase in trans identification, throwing around statistics (California vs. Utah, alleged “500% increase in testicular injuries in women's sports”) and referencing celebrities with multiple trans children.
Discussion of J.K. Rowling, her outspoken stance, and cultural pressure to conform or “be part of a movement.”
[27:37–29:42]
Commentary on celebrities (Megan Fox, Cynthia Nixon) and their families’ gender identities, implying a Hollywood/cultural influence.
Lighthearted banter about Megan Fox’s latest sci-fi movie, “Subservience,” with tongue-in-cheek references to robot helpers and marital relationships. [28:37–29:42]
[01:29–08:17, 32:13–39:03]
[39:53–41:11]
Enes Kanter’s mission:
“I'm simply asking that the current rules be applied equally to everyone. The rules that represent the very values many WNBA players and coaches have publicly advocated for.” [11:14] – (Read by Chris Reuvers)
On gender identity in sports:
“You want to be trans, whatever. I don’t care. The problem is, when you start to inflict your desires on everyone else and I’m supposed to just pretend and play make believe with you, that’s when I have a problem.” [15:02] – Chris Reuvers
Parental empathy, but strong boundaries:
“Don’t disrespect the kid who’s going through it … but … if there would have been a boy on a different [volleyball] team, I would have said [to my daughter], ‘You might have to sit this one out. I don’t want you getting hurt.’” [23:46] – Mike Fratelloni
Pop culture snark:
“Yes, you’re a smoke show, but you’re also freaking nuts. Yeah, I’m talking about Megan Fox, not the kids.” [27:47] – Chris Reuvers
J.K. Rowling’s clapback:
“Well, you still paid for them.” [26:14] – recounted by Chris, quoting Rowling’s viral social media response
On social media’s impact:
“It is shocking how powerful social media can be.” [40:44] – Mike Fratelloni
True to Garage Logic tradition, the conversation is casual, good-natured, and woven through with dry humor, Midwest nostalgia, and friendly ribbing. While the subject matter (trans athletes, cultural shifts) is often serious and controversial, the hosts strive for empathy and honesty, emphasizing fairness and common sense, but not without lampooning the ironies and absurdities of current events.
Summary:
This lively Weekly Scramble episode uses Enes Kanter Freedom’s headline-grabbing WNBA declaration as a springboard for a much broader, refreshingly candid—but never cruel—dialogue about the lines between inclusion, fairness, and societal trends in sports and culture. Along the way, listeners are treated to warm, sometimes irreverent family stories, high school nostalgia, pop culture commentary, and a dash of small-town Minnesota business pride. Accessible, opinionated, and engaging—a Garage Logic classic.