SCRAMBLE: Gov Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey completely embarrassed themselves on Memorial Day yesterday

Summary

Garage Logic: "SCRAMBLE: Gov Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey completely embarrassed themselves on Memorial Day yesterday"

Episode Summary | May 27, 2026

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Overview

This episode of the "Weekly Scramble" podcast, hosted by Chris Reuvers and Mike Fratelloni, takes a sharply critical look at the public actions of Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey on Memorial Day 2026. The hosts focus on what they describe as "tone-deaf" decisions and messaging from both leaders—chiefly, Walz missing his scheduled speech at the Fort Snelling National Cemetery and instead attending a George Floyd memorial event, and Frey posting about George Floyd before mentioning fallen U.S. troops. The episode blends local news, political commentary, and cultural reflection, keeping the signature Garage Logic tone of blunt common-sense and frustration with political leadership.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Memorial Day Context and Personal Reflections

• Chris opens by celebrating his own Memorial Day weekend, sharing family moments and local Americana (e.g. town ball games, Elko Speedway), framing it as the "Friday night of the summer weekend" (03:00).
• He shifts quickly to his "negative" topic, expressing deep anger at Minnesota politicians' apparent lack of respect for the holiday's true meaning.

2. Governor Walz Skips Fort Snelling Ceremony

• Chris reports, citing Liz Collin (Alpha News), that Gov. Tim Walz skipped his scheduled speaking slot at the Fort Snelling National Cemetery ceremony (03:46).
• Instead, Walz attended and danced at George Floyd Square to commemorate the 6th anniversary of Floyd’s death (04:47).

Notable Quote:

"Absolutely disgusting behavior by both of them...Walz was listed as a flipping speaker at this event and you don't bother to show up?"
— Chris Reuvers (04:13)

• Mike points out that Walz served 24 years in the Army National Guard, finding it "bizarre" that he would miss such a ceremony with fellow veterans (06:53).
• The hosts agree that Walz could and should have attended both events, as the cemetery service was early in the day (07:24).

Notable Quote:

"You can go and honor George Floyd and you can surely go and honor those that gave the ultimate sacrifice.”
— Mike Fratelloni (07:24)

• Chris suspects Walz skipped Fort Snelling to avoid potential public backlash, referencing past incidents (06:33).

3. The Importance and Meaning of Memorial Day

• Chris shares a personal story about passing a local cemetery, timing his arrival to witness a moving 21-gun salute and bagpipes (08:28), showing his sons "the impact of what this day is supposed to represent" (08:43).

Notable Quote:

"To show my kids, my two boys, the impact of what this day is supposed to represent... that's why something like this makes me so infuriated."
— Chris Reuvers (08:43)

• The hosts vent frustration at what they call Walz's past "stolen valor" issues, feeling his actions disrespect true military sacrifice (09:37).
• Mike insists that most attending the cemetery event would have shown "respect and decorum," not heckled Walz, despite political differences (09:44).

4. Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey’s Memorial Day Messaging

• Chris calls out Frey’s sequence of Memorial Day posts, where the mayor publicly honored George Floyd before acknowledging U.S. service members, leading to significant social media backlash (14:01).
• The hosts argue that “two things can be true at once”—tragedies in the city and national military sacrifice can both be acknowledged, but sequence and priority matter, especially on Memorial Day (16:00).

Notable Quote:

"Why wouldn't you do the Memorial Day post first?...Many people see George Floyd as a hero and many people don't. Why not just do the easy one first and then do the second one?"
— Mike Fratelloni (16:24)

• The hosts criticize Frey for apparently listening only to his "echo chamber" and failing to understand broader local sentiment (17:18).

5. Tone-Deaf Political Performance and Pander

• Chris and Mike reflect on what motivates politicians, viewing Walz's and Frey's choices as political pandering rather than genuine leadership or empathy (21:26).

Notable Quote:

"Do I really think that Tim Walz was there because he was deeply moved by George Floyd? I do not. I think he was there because he knows how to pander and that's all that politics has become."
— Chris Reuvers (21:26)

• The hosts note that neither Walz nor Frey attended the 5th and 6th anniversaries of George Floyd's death the previous years, questioning the motives for this year’s attendance/posting order (21:37).

6. Property and Stake in Minnesota

• The hosts follow up on rumors about Walz owning a residence in Montana, clarifying (via financial disclosures) that Walz owns no property in Minnesota or elsewhere, which they find strange for a state governor (25:02).

Notable Quote:

"You gotta own something. You have to have some dirt—in the state that you're governor of."
— Mike Fratelloni (25:12)

7. Societal Trends, Movies, and Culture Reflections

• The latter portion transitions from politics to lighter cultural topics—nostalgic reflections on movies like "Tombstone" (Val Kilmer & Kurt Russell), the value of male friendship, and stories about classic films (27:00–34:44).
• They reflect on new media habits, the rise of YouTube, and their own favorite channels and nostalgia for earlier eras (37:01–39:48).

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• "Absolutely disgusting behavior by both of them..." — Chris Reuvers on Walz and Frey skipping/reshuffling Memorial Day priorities (04:13)
• "You can go and honor George Floyd and you can surely go and honor those that gave the ultimate sacrifice." — Mike Fratelloni (07:24)
• "Why wouldn't you do the Memorial Day post first? ... Why not just do the easy one first and then do the second one?" — Mike Fratelloni (16:24)
• "Do I really think that Tim Walz was there because he was deeply moved by George Floyd? I do not. I think he was there because he knows how to pander and that's all that politics has become." — Chris Reuvers (21:26)
• "You gotta own something. You have to have some dirt—in the state that you're governor of." — Mike Fratelloni on Walz’s lack of personal property in MN (25:12)

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• [02:26] – Kickoff: Memorial Day weekend personal reflections and transition to criticism of politicians
• [03:46] – Report of Walz skipping cemetery ceremony for George Floyd Square
• [06:32] – Reference to past political events Walz avoided due to potential backlash
• [08:28] – Powerful story about witnessing a local Memorial Day ceremony and teaching kids respect for the holiday
• [14:01] – Jacob Frey's controversial Memorial Day posts and public reaction
• [16:00–18:23] – Debate about how leaders could/should have handled the day, social media messaging priorities
• [21:26] – Candid admissions about perceptions of political sincerity and "pandering"
• [25:02] – Checking the facts on Walz’s rumored Montana property
• [27:00–36:46] – Nostalgic stories about the movie "Tombstone" and reflections on celebrity friendship
• [37:01–40:09] – Social media habits, rise of YouTube, changing ways people consume stories and information

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Tone & Style

• Informal, opinionated, direct, and filled with local cultural identity typical of Garage Logic.
• The show combines humor, personal anecdotes, and sharp social commentary.
• The hosts often express frustration with political correctness and lack of “common sense” in public leadership, using sarcasm and colorful language.

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Summary Takeaways:
Listeners come away with a clear sense of the hosts' outrage at what they see as political missteps and disrespect for Memorial Day, deep frustration with performative politics, and nostalgia for more "genuine" times. The episode also offers relatable cultural detours—personal family stories, classic movie memories, and wistful observations on how people engage with the world and each other, both on and offline.

Transcript

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[A]

This is the weekly Scramble, a place where we chat about life over a cold one or two. It's time to belly up to the pod with Mike Fratelloni and your host, Chris Reivers.

[B]

That's right, it's time for the weekly Scramble podcast. My name is Chris Reivers. With me as always, his name is Mike Fratelloni. Hello, Michael.

[A]

How you doing, Reivers?

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I'm doing well. I'm doing well. I had a wonderful Memorial Day weekend. It was so much fun hanging out with family, doing a bunch of cool stuff. But boy, oh, boy, am I gonna get negative right away today.

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Oh, no.

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Well.

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Oh, no.

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Here's the thing. Memorial Day weekend is always that. Like, it's the. It's the Friday night of the weekend of summer. Right? It's hell, yes. You know, and then Fourth of July is the Saturday of summer, and, you know, Labor Day weekend is the Sunday of summer. Right. So I've always looked at it that way. Way. And like I said, great time. Did a bunch of cool stuff with the family, took in a town ball game, went to Elko Speedway. Oh, that would be awesome. Saturday, just America.

[A]

Right?

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Anyway, but I got to start negative because what I saw over the course of yesterday and last evening, I'm going to say it this way, is nothing short of repulsive by both the mayor of the city of Minneapolis and Jacob Fry, and mostly the governor of this state in Tim Walsh. Absolutely disgusting behavior by both of them. Are you ready?

[A]

I am.

[B]

This from Liz Collin of Alpha News. Yesterday, Governor Tim Walls on Memorial Day skipped the Fort Snelling National Cemetery Memorial Day ceremony, where he was listed as a speaker, by the way.

[A]

Oh, really? So he was supposed to be there?

[B]

Yep. And in fact, Liz Collins has she tweeted out a photo of the Memorial Day program for Fort Snelling National Cemetery. The program, or excuse me, the ceremony was supposed to start at 9:45am It's a beautiful program, by the way. All gave some. Some gave all. Governor Walz was listed as the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or 6, 7 speaker because he's listed with US Senator Amy Klobuchar. So instead of attending that, like, he was scheduled to guess where he was.

[A]

Okay, an anti ice rally close.

[B]

Instead, Governor Walz visited George Floyd Square to dance with the crowd in honor of the sixth anniversary of George Floyd's death. Wow. One attendee said, quote, we are supposed to honor our heroes and he blows off the veterans of the state. What a slap in the face. End quote. I couldn't agree more with that. Now, again, here's the deal. I'm not an idiot. I mean, yeah, okay, I am an idiot, but I know what's supposed to be right and what is supposed to be wrong. And again, I know I'm biased because I am always gonna be pro law enforcement, pro first responders, pro military. I'm always gonna be that way. That's how I was raised.

[A]

Are you raised pro for those who sacrifice their lives for America? Are you gonna be pro for that?

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But that's the thing.

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I'm just kidding. Of course you're pro for it.

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Read the bleeping room again. I get it. I know that six years ago it basically completely reshaped us as a state, America, us as a city specifically. It was a tenuous time. I get all of that. But this is something that you do if you're trying to gain votes. And what you're not even running for reelection and you were listed as a flipping speaker at this event and you don't bother to show up. Because I can guarantee you this. I guarantee you I know exactly why he didn't show up. Remember a couple of years ago when he was supposed to speak up at Farm Fest or whatever it was when he was running against Scott Jensen?

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Thought he was going to get some

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backlash and he got booed, he got hectored. People came after him with questions. We never saw him outstayed again. I guarantee that's why he didn't show up.

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Really? I don't think the crowd at fortunately would do that to him.

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That's a good point. No, that's a good point.

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We're forgetting that Tim Wolfs served 24 years.

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Great point.

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In the National Army National Guard. So those are his brothers and his sisters that were lost in war. He's done more than you and I have ever done.

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Sure.

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Right. He spent 24 years. Granted, he might have made some lies up about it, but I think in general he did a lot of stuff. He's in there for 24 years. It wasn't all a lie. Right. So that's his brethren that he would have been speaking to. I don't get it. If. Could you. Could you argue that he could do both?

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Yes.

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Right. You can go and honor George Floyd and you can surely go and honor those that gave the ultimate sacrifice.

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Would have even shown me something had he done. Because this was a 9:45am ceremony. So in fact, quick aside, yesterday I was driving through the Hazelwood area. I know. You have no idea where that is.

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No, I don't. Unless you're talking to Minneapolis.

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Hazelwood Cemetery. So my grandparents attended Hazelwood Church. I guess the address would technically be listed as Webster, but it's right in the Elko Newmarket area. And it was really cool. I was driving to my grandparents farm where we were kind of camping all weekend and I drove by Hazelwood Cemetery at about, I would say 10 o' clock yesterday morning. And it's a 55 mile an hour highway, Highway 46. And all of a sudden I see all these cars and motorcycles and everything lined up on what would be the east side of the highway. And I thought what's going.

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Oh.

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And then I saw the Cemetery. I went, oh, man. So I slowed down, rolled the windows down so the boys could hear. And, you know, I'm going about 25 right now. There's no one around me. And we got to see the guardsmen shoot up.

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21 gun salute.

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21 gun salute. It was. I could not possibly have timed it any better. It was so cool and moving with the bagpipes and everything. It was awesome. And I said, gosh, I wish I had, like, five extra minutes so we could just sit there and listen to this whole thing to show my kids, my two boys, the impact of what this day is supposed to represent. And that's why something like this makes me so infuriated that this idiot, this buffoon, this clown of a governor, doesn't have the balls to show up at something like this. When you are literally documented with stolen valor, saying you accomplished things that you never did, and yet you have the balls to be listed as a speaker at this event. You decide to no show, and you decide to insult the very people that provided you the right to be an ass. Sorry, I'm a little.

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No, I get it. I do not think he would have had any ill consequences going to speak there. People would not have been rude to him.

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Here's why. I will push back on that a little bit. Yes, there would have been respect and decorum and all that stuff with that guy, but the stolen valor part would have bugged a lot of people. Remember when he was running for vice president and claimed all this crap?

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Yes.

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He never did that. That, I think, is what he was afraid of.

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Yeah, but Hillary Clinton also gave speeches. Remember when she said in the helicopter, they were shooting at us in the helicopter, and it was total bullshit. Right. It was all just made up.

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But she was never a member of the military.

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I totally get that. But we have a short attention span.

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Right.

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And we give people grace, especially at a memorial service for those that have sacrificed the ultimate sacrifice. We probably won't yell out stuff. You would never do it. And you're not a big fan of his. And I. And I think many on the right would not do that. And I'm sure there's many on the left and the right. I'm sure it was a bipartisan group that was there to pay respects for those that have lost.

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Yeah.

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That have been lost. I don't. Here's something that. I saw the video of him at George Floyd Square, and I think that's a valid thing to go to. Right. I think thinking about that is valid. Right. I think a Huge, huge amount of the people in our community see that as a very large thing. I see see the event as a very large thing too.

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Don't.

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I'm not diminishing it. Why do you need to dance? And did you see the video of him dancing?

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I sure did.

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FYI, politicians, you're never going to look good dancing around people that are doing a dance that you can't do. Or it's German days and they're doing German dances. You don't know how to German dance. You can stand there and smile and put your hands in front of you like in your normal stance and just say, this is a great event. Thank you all for having me here. Watching him dance, I thought, well, that's weird. This is a celebration of George Floyd's life. I didn't know that it was a dance off. Right. It looks kind of dancey, but that's okay if they want to do that. I did not know that he skipped something as important as a speech for Memorial Day.

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So I mentioned Jacob Fry saying basically, hold my beer. And you know, it's one thing for a politician to show up an event and maybe skip another one. It's an entirely another thing for you to go on social media, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry sent out a Memorial Day message honoring George Floyd hours before commemorating US Troops who died while serving. Quote, today we remember George Floyd, who was murdered by a former Minneapolis police officer six years ago. Frye posted on X shortly after 9am that moment changed our city forever. Well, he's not wrong, but read the room, bro.

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Yeah.

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He followed up with four additional tweets arguing that Minneapolis was forced to, quote, confront painful truths about race policing, inequity and trust, and celebrating his administration's work on police reform. Fry's replies were filled with users pointing out that he had not yet said anything about the true purpose of Memorial Day. Oh, boy, did he get fileted, by the way. Quote, that's your message on the day we memorialize those who gave their lives fighting for our freedom. This is your post. Disgusting. Quote Another one Today is Memorial Day for the brave men and women who have made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom, not Memorial Day for criminal drug addicts who spark some of the most destructive race riots and racist policy decisions of our lifetime. A sports commentator, John Root, I don't know who that is, replied to Jacob Fry's tweet. I don't think he's a local guy. I have no idea who John Root is. It wasn't until over two hours later that Frye made a post honoring troops who made the ultimate sacrifice. And let's just say it did not go over well. Meaning comments.

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Two things can be true at once. Okay, you can do both of those on Memorial Day, sure. But why wouldn't you do the Memorial Day post first? Why? No one in the George Floyd world would say, hey, why did you honor our troops first? Hell, a huge percentage of them might have been in the military. They would totally understand this.

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Or I got a novel concept. There's this thing on social media where you can release a tweet at any day, any part of the day. You can set it and forget it. Okay, yeah, you can automatically. We do it here all the time. How about this? How about send them both out at the same time if that's what you're gonna do. Or like you said, I like your idea better. Put out the Memorial Day one first, honor George Floyd second, but then to also include the entire murdering aspect. What purpose does that serve? You're the mayor of the city. Your job is to make the city better, is to take the temperature down in the room, whether you want to or not. You signed up for the gig. You ran for reelection again. It's your freaking job to take the temperature down, not increase the temperature. Which is exactly what you did and why I'm all kinds of worked up. And I just had a three day weekend.

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Okay, Mayor Fry, I have an extra two hours a week. I will help you two hours a week. Because you are only getting advice from your echo chamber that says we first have to talk about George Floyd. And I can't fathom that that's the right answer. Right. I think you have to talk about George Floyd. I really do.

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Sure.

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I think he has to do that. I think you first and foremost have to talk about all of our heroes. Right? Yep. And many people see George Floyd as a hero and many people don't. Why not just do the easy one first and then do the second one? And if people say, I can't believe you're not talking about Memorial Day. Oh, I did that. At 8 o' clock this morning, I put out my tweet about Memorial Day. Now I've moved to this. Right. Cause two things can be true. I need to comment on both of these things. I find it really odd. I did a post for Fraterloni's. Right. And we're doing that big find at frats. Right. It's huge. It's just getting huge. It's getting a little out of control. That's how huge it's getting. And I said in my post, we're not going to do it today. Like, we're not doing a find it at frats today.

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Sure.

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This is about honoring those that gave the ultimate sacrifice. Right. I mean, when you think about it, what it represents, it's not a party day. It's not 20% off bed frames day.

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Well, there's the best one. And I was so busy yesterday, I just didn't even go on social media at all. But I'll never forget. It's a photo of a young boy. I would guess he's about 10, and he's crying and he's being handed a folded flag by a service member, obviously attending. I would assume it's his father's funeral. And it's saying, just remember why you've got a three day weekend. It's not National Barbecue Day. This is called Memorial Day. Right. And there was another one followed up that I saw that was great, that said, because I saw a gentleman, I was at a convenience store getting gas or whatever, and he was wearing his Vietnam hat. And I said, thank you for your service. And he, he shook my hand, he said, thank you, but thank the ones that didn't get to come home or whatever, which I thought was really touching. And again, he said it in front of my two kids. And then I had to explain, hey, this day is for those that didn't come home.

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Sure.

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You know, Labor Day is the one where you honor veterans that did get the chance to come home. Right. So I kind of explained the difference between.

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Is that what Labor Day stands for?

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Well, that's how I always interpret it. I'm willing to be corrected. Right. But I was always told Memorial Day is for the ones that didn't make it home. And Labor Day was supposed to be there for the ones that did that, served and did make it home.

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Labor Day stands for the social and economic achievements of American workers.

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Oh, okay.

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So you know what you do, you know what you do on Labor Day, you don't work. I mean, we really work to. We have a holiday for the social and economic achievement of American workers. Fantastic. Everybody take the day off. Right.

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And Fourth of July is for everybody. Everybody shooting out fireworks and saying Merica. It is a.

[A]

That is tone deaf. And again, I am trying to ride the fence of the two echo chambers. I'm trying to listen to NPR as much as I listen to old Rush Limbaugh tapes. Right. Sure. I want to. I want to really ride that rail, that middle fence, the middle ground. But whoever's talking to Fry is not doing him any good. You can't just have yes men with you. It's a big problem with President Trump. All he has is yes men. The moment he gets someone to say no to him, they're gone.

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They're gone.

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Right. Which is not a great sign of a great leader. Right. Might be a sign of somebody getting something done, but it's not the sign of a great leader.

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I guess the thing with the Floyd stuff and I know I'm a bitter old. I'm a 75 year old trapped in a 40 year old body. I understand that because that's who I work with each and every single day But I guess my point is I understand that I'm kind of a crusty old get off my lawn guy a little bit But I guess the part that bothers me about it is do I really think that Tim Walls was there because he was deeply moved by George Floyd? I do not.

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I do not.

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I think he was there because he knows how to pander and that's all that politics has become and Tim Walls should be the poster boy of.

[A]

He didn't go. I looked it up while we were talking about it. He didn't go to the fifth anniversary. He didn't do that. He just wrote a statement. Jacob Fry didn't go to the six. Right. Jacob Fry didn't show up at this event but Governor Walz did. Why? What does he have to benefit from going there? He's not running for anything else.

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No.

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He's barely going to be able to live in this state because you know 47% of the people are driving. I think he's nuts.

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We already know he isn't. He already bought a residence in Montana.

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Where's he getting the money to do it?

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Which tells you.

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Where does he get the money to buy as governor? He's making a couple hundred grand a year, right? Sure, I guess you could save 200 grand a year over his eight years as governor. I mean hypothetically you could.

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He does have about 98 different pensions.

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He does have a bunch of pensions, right? Deservedly so. 24 years in the military and teachers pension. But does that get you a house in the Montana? I want to see how expensive that house is. Has Liz Collins crawled up that house purchase?

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No, but I do know that his daughter is already out there living, doing, working I don't know what jobsman or something. I have no idea. It's probably they're going to become the people in Yellowstone that get made fun of the city.

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It's that incorporate made fun of here too. Honest to God, I don't know him. I hate talking badly about him but tone deaf. Tone deaf. If you're not going to and you were in the military for 24 years. You deserve respect. Yes. And be respected and you probably would anyway.

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Call 1-800-GRAINGER visit grainger.com or just stop

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by Granger for the ones who get it done. Potential correction. Governor Walz is not building or does not own a home in Montana. His financial disclosures show he owns no property, including any property in Minnesota, which should kind of preclude him from a guy saying, I think property taxes should go up because he's not in the game.

[B]

He's not even in the game.

[A]

His official residence is Minnesota governor's residence in St. Paul. Oh, my God. And we've talked about many times that he doesn't own property. Which is weird. Which is weird. You gotta own something. You have to have some dirt. In the state that you're the governor of. You gotta own some dirt. But as of right now, his financial disclosures do not say he owns any property in Bozeman. His daughter does live there, though.

[B]

Okay, so I was kind of right.

[A]

Yeah, you were close. Right. And maybe he's gonna do that.

[B]

So you know how sometimes I kind of detest social media and it's kind of the cesspool of our society?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's the armpit There are things, however, that will pop up that are kind of cool. Well, sadly, it's usually timeline photos of my kids or. One popped up this weekend because Memorial Day weekend, 11 years ago, we did the Field of Dreams. And I think I remember talking to you about this on the beer show back in the day and how. Great story, right? So we make the drive. Cause my sister in law and her husband lived down in that area at the time. And so we went to go visit them for the weekend. It was great. And my oldest, who's now 14, was 3 at the time. So we make the drive, we go to the Field of Dreams movie set, and I say, hey, son, how about a catch? You know the great line from the. And he goes, nah, I'm gonna play in the dirt. All right.

[A]

Well, he was pretty little.

[B]

Oh, he was three. Yeah. So I'm just like, okay, that works too. But I got a great photo of him playing in the infield dirt with the movie set in the background was awesome.

[A]

So did you tell him that random ghosts are gonna walk out of the cornfield at him? Cause that would have freaked out. He would have never played baseball again. He's like, what?

[B]

No, thank you.

[A]

A guy named Scratchy McGee is going to come out of that field.

[B]

Yep, that would have saved me, I guess, from driving all the way to St. Clair last night. I'm going to get to that story in a second. Anyway, but I found this and I. Again, I never know what people might or might not be interested in, but I find stuff like this fascinating. And I love this kind of stuff. So are you familiar, you're familiar with the movie Tombstone?

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Great movie. One of my favorite movies of all time. And Val Kilmer, who's one of my favorite actors of all time, God rest his soul, he died just about, what, not even a year ago, right? From cancer. Anyway, there's this great story that I just. I love. So it's even now, Mike. It's even in sports, where, yes, I will still watch a game, a football game, a baseball game, a basketball game. But I get so enamored with the backstories of the players, the families where they grew up. That's why I love the draft. I think the draft is awesome because I just love that kind of stuff. So this is so cool. I saw this posted a couple of days ago and I wanted to bring this up. So check this out. In 1993, Michael Kurt Russell saved a dying Western. All right, Tombstone we're talking about. This is so cool. In 2020, 5. Val Kilmer's funeral looked like a scene straight out of it. For 32 years, their roles in Tombstone have lived inside the dust of Arizona. It was never supposed to be a masterpiece. Tombstone started as a disaster. In 1993, the first director was fired after three weeks. The script was bleeding money. The studio thought Westerns were dead. The crew called it Kevin Costner's sloppy seconds because Costner was making his own Wyatt Earp movie just down the road.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Then Kurt Russell did something actors just simply don't do. He became the director without credit, without pay for it. Every Single morning at 4am Kurt Russell was drawing shot lists. Gotta be careful with that. He rewrote scenes overnight. He cut 20 pages out of the script himself. He told the studio, quote, you're either firing me too, or you're letting me finish this movie the way I want it finished. And they let him, but they never put his name on it. As director, George P. Cosmatos got the credit. Everyone on the set knew the truth. Russell had one rule. We're not making a western. We're making a film about friendship. That friendship was Doc Holliday, and Doc was Val Kilmer. Kilmer showed up to the set having lost 30 pounds. He filled his hotel room with 19th century medical books. He learned to roll a coin across his knuckles until his fingers bled. He stayed in a southern drawl for six months, on and off camera.

[A]

Wow.

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The crew stopped calling him Val. Everyone called him Doc. Russell and Kilmer made a pact. Quote, no matter what happens with this film, we always protect each other's work. End quote. God, that's such a great. Wow. The most famous scene almost didn't happen. The I'm your Huckleberry showdown, which. Oh, dude, I'm getting goosebumps. Thinking about that right now is so awesome. The I'm your Huckleberry showdown. The studio hated it. Too poetic. Audiences won't get it. Russell fought for it. He said, if you cut out that line, you cut out the heart of this entire film.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

God, it's so cool. On the day Kilmer was sick with 102 degree fever, he could barely stand. Russell told him, we can shoot this tomorrow. Val Kilmer. Sorry. We can shoot this tomorrow, Doc. Yeah. Kilmer looked at him through sweat and said, doc wouldn't wait. Neither do I. They did it in two takes. Tombstone came out Christmas Day of 1993. Critics shrugged. Kevin Costner's Wyatt Earp was supposed to bury it. Six months later, it didn't. Tombstone made $56 million and became a religion. Costner's film flopped and died. But that's not what was being said at Val Kirmo's memorial in April of 2025. So it was a little more than a year ago. Kilmer had fought throat cancer for a decade. He lost his voice. The man who once delivered the most quoted line in Western history could barely whisper. He died on April 2, 2025, at the age of 65. The funeral was in New Mexico. Small, private, dusty. Kurt Russell stood up to speak. He was 74 years old. He didn't bring a speech, he brought a prop. He pulled a silver watch from his pocket, the same one he carried in Tombstone as Wyatt Earp. He opened it, looked down and said only one line. I'm your Huckleberry. Wow. Oh, man, that's cool. The room broke. Russell told his family later that he and Kililmer had talked two weeks before he passed. Kilmer could only type. His last message to Russell was four words. Still your friend, Huckleberry. For 32 years, people have argued about who was the real star of Tombstone. Russell carried the film. Kilmer stole it. But on that day in New Mexico, nobody argued. Because every now and then, a movie stops being a movie. The costumes fade, the box office fades, the reviews fade, but the friendship doesn't. Kurt Russell saved tombstone in 1993 so it could exist. Val Kilmer saved Tombstone in every scene so it would be remembered. In 2017, Kilmer wrote on his blog, Doc Holliday taught me that you can be dying and still be the most alive person in the room. Damn. In 2025, Russell proved it. He signed the guestbook at the funeral with one line. He was always my Huckleberry. Always. The truth Russell walked out with that day is one very few actors ever feel you can win awards. You can play Batman, you can play Elvis, you can play anything. But once in a lifetime, you get to play a friend. And if you do it right, the world will never let him die. 32 years later, Tombstone, in the quietest room in New Mexico. Kurt Russell reached into his pocket and explained, very softly, that the man lying in front of him wasn't just a co star. He was in the only way the Old west can really award a legend. Damn, that's good stuff right there. That was.

[A]

That was written. Well, who did that?

[B]

It's a account that I just followed after seeing this. It's called Good Old Days and it's on Facebook for those of you that are interested.

[A]

Those were the good old days, right? 93.

[B]

I remember going to that in the theater, as Patrick Royce would call it, at the Faribault West Mall. I think I was a sophomore in high school, maybe in ninth grade, and I remember seeing that film going, gd, this is amazing.

[A]

Yeah. I remember Val looked sick the entire time because it wasn't his character shot. It wasn't Doc shot. So he was always fighting. He was gonna die. And he always had that sweat on his face where he was just pale. And weirdly, that's kind of when he died in real life. He looked kind of that same way. And he just struggled that entire movie. And you're like, oh, my gosh, is he gonna live? Is he gonna die? What's going on? It was fantastically performed.

[B]

Oh. And even to bring it back, you know, to one of my favorite movies, Top Gun, Maverick. Right. He was literally dying.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And Tom Cruise. I'm gonna butcher this. But Tom Cruise had said to him, I want you to be a part of this, but if you're not up to it, he said, I'm. If you do this without me, I'm never gonna forgive you. Right. And so, quite literally, that was the. I think, one of the last things he ever did as an actor before he passed away. Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so. But he was able to play that character who. I mean, spoiler alert for those of you who haven't seen. He dies in the movie. Right. It was just. It was perfect. It was absolutely perfect.

[A]

I mean, that was one of Val Kilmer's best. Best roles was Doc Holliday. But his absolute best role, Iceman.

[B]

No. Oh, come on. No.

[A]

Was in 1983. 1985, I think. Real genius.

[B]

Oh, I'm not gonna argue with you.

[A]

That was literally one of the best movies I've ever seen. Remember when he went to the freezer.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And he cut the frozen. The. The liquid nitrogen. Right. The frozen nitrogen. And made a quarter out of it, and then walked over to the machine and dropped that in and then got a candy bar.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Genius. Full genius.

[B]

Oh, he's. I mean, honestly, like, he's one of those guys where I would watch anything that he was in because. And I. I remember reading something about him where, when he was. When he was on the set, he wasn't well liked. And what I mean by that is not that he was difficult to work with, but when he showed up, he expected professionalism. Right. So he was almost a leader by trade, where he just said, hey, no, I'm not here to. To be friends with you. I'm here to do my job. And I expect you to do the same. So it was that kind of. That's just how he pursued acting. He was just a professional and he was really, really good at it. Right. And so I think that can sometimes rub people the wrong way.

[A]

Well, I think if you're in Doc Holliday's mind and then you're walking by and then some guy at the buffet, the lunch table, turns to you and says, val, we got new granola bars. And Val just is in a zone. And he doesn't talk to that guy. And then that guy says, what an a hole Val is. It's like, nope, nope. He's trying to carry this movie that's going to do 67 million bucks worldwide, 56 in domestically. He doesn't have time to talk about the new granola bar. Don't ask him. In fact, I think Reavers, if this show got a little bit bigger. And when we walk through the offices here, people should maybe turn their eyes from us because we are in a zone, right?

[B]

I'm going to see how much money is 1993 or how much.

[A]

What is 1996?

[B]

Yes. So 56 million. Okay, so it's about 129 million.

[A]

Pretty damn good, you know, that's pretty damn good. But real genius did 13 million.

[B]

85 did it really?

[A]

I mean, that's with an opening weekend of two and a half million. And to build, it was nothing, right? They had no stars besides Val. So I mean, I think that did pretty well.

[B]

It's funny because now that you know, I. It's. My kids have got. Now I'm hooked on YouTube, right? Because I gotta tell you, when we talk about movies, TV, whatever it is, kids don't watch TV. They watch YouTube. You know, because I always.

[A]

That's exactly.

[B]

I will argue with Joe all the time, like, this is why we need to do YouTube. Because I even look at myself, my viewing habits, right? Like, unless it's a, A live sporting event, I don't watch hardly. No, I take that back. I will watch the morning news, weather and stuff like that, especially during baseball season. Is it going to rain tonight? Do I have to move a game? Things like that. But the kids just watch YouTube. So now what am I doing Now I'm watching clips of like all weekend. What was I doing when I had the rear shorts? It's tombstone clips. And it's landman 15 seconds at a time. Exactly.

[A]

It's rotting our brains out.

[B]

And I go, I blame my 14 and 11 year old for doing this to me.

[A]

Dang it one hour and one minute long. WD detailing. Have you ever heard of that channel WD detailing?

[B]

No.

[A]

I think Joe watches it. I know.

[B]

Sounds like a Joe and Kenny show.

[A]

They pulled a 1990 Honda CRX SI.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Out of a barn. I in 1990 had a Honda CRX SI.

[B]

I remember you talking about this before.

[A]

Still one of my favorite cars.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Five speed. Actually could have been a six speed. Really cool little car. It was the Si, the fast one, which was probably like 170 horsepower, but it was real light, right? And they pulled it out and I watched them for an hour, clean the tires, get the bird poop off the top of it. And it was in actually really nice shape. Started and ran and everything. And it's what I consume. It's two guys with a couple iPhones recording themselves watching a car. And that's what I like the most. Right. It's your therapy production value. It's not Landman where somebody's making 4 million bucks for the episode. These guys are probably making 15,000 bucks off of that episode because it's getting 2 million views, whatever they get for 2 million views on YouTube. Enough to do this as a profession. And I think, wow, this is so much better. It actually is sort of surprising that that didn't click in earlier for people. Right? So when we had just terrestrial TV like 4, 5, 9 and 11, but then we had cable access. And why didn't cable access get guys sitting here just chatt with somebody? And why didn't that work better way back when when it came out? Right? Because that's all it is now. That's all I watch is personalities of a good guy who knows how to change an alternator on a car. Oh yeah, that's what I like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Those guys are the coolest guy, Chris. And I can name all their names. I can name all their names that I follow. I. I buy blaster spray because they say blaster spray works.

[B]

I don't even know what that is.

[A]

It's just like one of the sprays you get. Oh, right. But one guy does seafoam, so he has all the seafoam collection and he's putting it in every car.

[B]

Then Kenny has 100%. Either mention this on the show or reference it.

[A]

I guarantee Kenny watches the same things I do, which is scary, actually.

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Okay.

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Sure.

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Did you hear we mentioned the graduations and the outgoing. The girl that we referenced had her diploma.

[A]

Yeah. I bet you that's not real.

[B]

You think it's fake?

[A]

It's gotta be.

[B]

Okay, right?

[A]

It's gotta be. We were talking about a gala video.

[B]

Tearing up and saying, I can't believe they took it from me.

[A]

But do you think that's A.I.

[B]

oh, it probably could be, yeah.

[A]

That's the problem with the Internet is it only gives you the truth you wanna see.

[B]

Because about 15 different listeners sent it to me. That's why I was wondering if that actually did.

[A]

I wonder if that's true. We could always look it up using A.I.

[B]

that's true.

[A]

But we couldn't believe the A.I. response, because it. It. You know, A.I. just told me the governor doesn't have a home in Montana. But AI could be wrong. It's been wrong before. Did you hear I told you where the AI was using? They were reading off the names for the graduation. Oh, yeah. And AI missed, like, half of them. It's like, oh, AI.

[B]

Oh, you can't do that.

[A]

You can't do that. It's better than the one that they had where with, like, remember where they wrote everything phonetically?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the people couldn't read Elizabeth. They were like, E. Liz. E. Beth. Yeah. Abeth. It was unbelievable. Hey, Reivers, I don't have a great joke for you today.

[B]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[A]

I know. I feel bad. I know the listeners, you made it all the way through the show, and

[B]

they're thinking, where is Mike with the joke?

[A]

Just waiting, and I just don't have one. But I do know that you are the best.

[B]

Thank you, Michael. Please do us a favor. Rate and review the show wherever you happen to be. Listening to the weekly Scramble Podcast. It helps others find the show. It helps us out as well, and we appreciate each and every single one of you. His name is Mike Fratelloni. My name is Chris Reivers. Thank you so very much for listening to the weekly Scramble Podcast. We'll talk to you again next time. Until then, cheers.