SCRAMBLE: Joe Thompson resigns as US Attorney and Jordan Addison really can't get out of his own way

Summary

Garage Logic: Weekly Scramble Podcast

Episode Title: SCRAMBLE: Joe Thompson resigns as US Attorney and Jordan Addison really can't get out of his own way
Host: Chris Reivers
Co-host: Mike Fratelloni
Release Date: January 14, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Garage Logic's Weekly Scramble is split between two main stories: the surprising resignation of Joe Thompson, former U.S. Attorney for Minnesota (and five other federal prosecutors), amid mounting pressure around ICE-related investigations, and the ongoing legal mishaps of Minnesota Vikings wide receiver Jordan Addison. Hosts Chris Reivers and Mike Fratelloni break down the facts, politics, and community impact of both stories, peppered with Garage Logic’s trademark mix of irreverence, skepticism, and old-fashioned common sense.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Joe Thompson and DOJ Mass Resignations

Start: 01:54 – 19:56

• Overview of the Departures

  • Chris details that six federal prosecutors, including Joe Thompson, suddenly resigned. Thompson, notable for his fraud cases and as the interim U.S. attorney, left amid DOJ efforts to push prosecution of the widow of Renee Goode, who was shot by an ICE agent.

    “This is the latest sign that President Trump is pushing nonpartisan career professionals out of the Department of Justice and replacing them with his psychopaths. Those are the words of Governor Tim Walz.” (03:33)

• Political and Social Fallout

  • Both hosts point out the “awful look” for both ICE and local politicians after U.S. citizens were wrongly detained for hours, and frustration grows over both overreach and absence of action at different levels of government.

    Chris: “You’re throwing red meat to the wolves.” (07:10)

• ICE’s Escalation in Minnesota

  • The number of ICE agents in Minnesota is ballooning (up to 4,500), sparking fear, particularly among people of color and immigrants.

    Mike: “I had lunch today with one of my friends who happens to be Indian, and he’s carrying his passport around…they’re pulling people of color over.” (04:51)

• Complexity in Police/Civilian Encounters

  • The Renee Goode shooting is dissected—questioning her involvement, whether her actions needed investigation, and whether the public narrative misses deeper truths.

    Chris: “They weren’t just leaving Kowalski’s and happened upon this scene. They were there specifically to be a pain in the butt. Now, does that mean she should have been shot and killed? Of course not.” (08:36)

• Procedural Law and Ethics

  • Mike explains (with caveat of inexperience) how Minnesota’s law could mean someone committing a crime during which a death occurs, could be liable for murder, even if not the shooter.

    Mike: “If you’re committing a crime and a murder happens… You can have that murder—including death by cop—right…put onto you.” (09:44)

• Questions of Intent

  • The hosts debate whether Goode’s actions were truly dangerous, or simply misread:

    Chris: “I don’t believe she was trying to leave the scene...You’re not trying to leave if your spouse was outside the vehicle.” (10:59)

  • Mike: “It doesn't matter what her intent was. It's what happened.” (11:17)

• Impact on Law Enforcement

  • Chris underscores the dilemma: society is attacking law enforcement for doing their job, but also suffering due to lack of legitimate local action on crime and fraud. The loss of experienced prosecutors is painted as devastating for Minnesota.

• Political Critique

  • Frustration is vented toward state and local leaders, especially Keith Ellison, who is accused of doing little to address fraud but leaping into national lawsuits.

    Chris: “Keith’s done more work in the last 48 hours to put together this lawsuit against Trump than he has in the previous eight years to try anything to combat fraud in this state. It's a joke.” (21:09)

Notable Segment Timestamps

• 01:54 – Resignations and political fallout introduced
• 04:51 – Personal stories of ICE targeting and social impact
• 08:38 – Speculation on Goode’s involvement and legal consequences
• 13:28 – Human impact and loss of community trust
• 17:11 – Implications of Thompson’s resignation
• 19:56 – The scale of fraud compared to Somalia’s GDP

2. Minnesota’s Immigration & Fraud Crisis

19:56 – 31:33

• Scale of Fraud

  • A segment compares the $9 billion estimated in Minnesota fraud to Somalia's national GDP ($12.94B), highlighting the staggering scope:

    Mike: “We’ve almost committed…the exact same amount…of fraud as the entire GDP of Somalia.” (20:08)

• Unauthorized Population Data

  • Data suggests 100,000–130,000 unauthorized immigrants in MN, but hosts debate if it’s higher due to local trends.

    Mike: “That’s 2 in 100, right? That’s 1 in 50. 1 in 50 people approximately, is not documented to work or not legal.” (27:23)

• Real-Life Impact

  • Observations from Mike about closed restaurants, school disruptions, and worker shortages, leading him to reconsider assumptions about how many undocumented people live in Minnesota.

    Mike: “When the local McDonald's isn't opening their dining room ... Then I think, well, those people that I saw every day working ... Was he not legal to work here?" (23:03)

• Morality and Policy

  • The human element: what about families and workers who have been productive, stable residents for decades?

    Mike: “Something about people being here for 20 years. Do we want the federal government chasing them down? I don’t know.” (31:33)

3. Jordan Addison: The Talent and the Trouble

31:48 – 38:46

• Addison in Legal Trouble—Again

  • Vikings wide receiver Jordan Addison, age 23, arrested for misdemeanor trespassing in Florida, just weeks after the season; prior incidents include driving 140 mph and a DUI.

    Chris: “It’s the latest off-field incident for the former first round pick…he was also cited for driving 140 miles an hour…also pleaded guilty to a DUI charge in 2024.” (32:58)

• Career and Financial Impact

  • Addison’s rookie contract details and risk of suspension discussed. Chris doubts teams will invest in him long-term; Mike argues that as long as Addison is talented, NFL teams will overlook misbehavior—citing Michael Vick as precedent.

    Chris: “No one in their right freaking mind is gonna invest into a nut job like this.” (34:01)
    Mike: “If we think for a second that the NFL gives two shits about his background, he’s not killing people…he’s spunky at a hotel … They won’t give a crap.” (36:28)

• Disagreement on Consequences

  • Mike is skeptical the NFL cares about misdemeanors, while Chris insists teams will avoid unreliable players.

    Chris: "The biggest liability is unavailability." (37:52)

• Underlying Theme: Wasted Opportunity

  • The hosts express general exasperation at young athletes risking millions for trivial offenses.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 03:33 | Chris (quoting Gov. Walz) | “This is the latest sign that President Trump is pushing nonpartisan career professionals out of the Department of Justice and replacing them with his psychopaths.” | | 04:51 | Mike | “I had lunch today with one of my friends who happens to be Indian, and he’s carrying his passport around, and I said, I don’t blame him one bit.” | | 08:36 | Chris | “They were there specifically to be a pain in the butt. Now, does that mean she should have been shot and killed? Of course not.” | | 09:44 | Mike | “If you’re committing a crime and a murder happens … You can have that murder—including death by cop—put onto you.” | | 10:59 | Chris | “I don’t believe she was trying to leave the scene…You’re not trying to leave if your spouse was outside the vehicle.” | | 11:17 | Mike | “It doesn't matter what her intent was. It's what happened.” | | 13:28 | Chris | “I think for the most part, most of us are pretty much aligned…we want to be left alone. And I think that’s the part that’s gotten so lost.” | | 21:09 | Chris | “Keith’s done more work in the last 48 hours to put together this lawsuit against Trump than he has in the previous eight years to try anything to combat fraud in this state. It's a joke.” | | 20:08 | Mike | “We’ve almost committed…the exact same amount…of fraud as the entire GDP of Somalia.” | | 23:03 | Mike | “When the local McDonald's isn't opening their dining room ... Then I think, well, those people that I saw every day working ... Was he not legal to work here?" | | 31:33 | Mike | “Something about people being here for 20 years. Do we want the federal government chasing them down? I don’t know.” | | 34:01 | Chris | “No one in their right freaking mind is gonna invest into a nut job like this.” | | 36:28 | Mike | “If we think for a second that the NFL gives two shits about his background, he’s not killing people…They won’t give a crap.” | | 37:52 | Chris | “The biggest liability is unavailability.” |

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Additional Insights

• The tone remains irreverent, yet concerned, with Chris pressed between skepticism toward both law enforcement overreach and political grandstanding, and Mike’s wry, questioning approach.
• Throughout, both show awareness that they lack firsthand legal expertise, but are eager to process the news honestly and transparently, often pausing to clarify what they are speculating vs. stating as fact.
• They wrap up with lighthearted banter about personal birthdays, but the core focus remains the intersection of legal institutions, political blame, and their real-world impact.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

• The episode is a deep-dive into current Minnesota turmoil: prosecutorial resignations, ICE’s controversial actions, and a local sports celebrity’s disappointing missteps.
• Expect a sharp, unscripted, and principled discussion with everyday analogies and neighborhood impact.
• If you want the pulse of Minnesota’s common-sense crowd, with a dash of sports frustration—this one delivers.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Tickets on sale [e-mail] Save $3 with advanced purchase. Each ticket includes 14 free greens fee passes at area courses location. Learn [e-mail] Here we go. This is the weekly Scramble, a place where we chat about life over a cold one or two. It's time to belly up to the pod with Mike Fratelloni and your host, Chris Reivers.

[C]

That's right. It's time for the weekly Scramble podcast. My name is Chris Reivers. With me, as always, his name is Mike Fratelloni. Hello, Michael.

[D]

How you doing, Reivers?

[C]

I'm. I'm okay. I'm okay. I was out yesterday, but there's so much I want to talk about with you today.

[D]

It's overwhelming.

[C]

It really is. I was trying to. So, you know, the thing is. And Joe hates it when I say this publicly, but when we close up shop on Friday afternoon, I do my damnedest to not read any news, look at any news. I just need a break.

[D]

Got it.

[C]

You gotta unplug for a little bit. You do. And so with an additional day off that I had yesterday, I really didn't read any.

[D]

Oh, you got. You lost it all. All of your social intelligence went right away in three days.

[C]

So then when I. You know, when I get up in the morning to do the show, prep and gather some things and then come in here, you know, I'm always like, okay, is he gonna ask me if I'm trying to lay low, what stories? Get Josh recorded, and then get in here.

[D]

Oh, my God. Is it like when you were in school and they're like Reavers? Did you read chapter two?

[C]

Yeah, 100%. I don't wanna be called on.

[D]

Okay, Got it.

[C]

Absolutely. It's the exact same thing, Michael. Sounds stressful, but this actually. Tell me about it. But this actually surfaced. Right? We started the show today on Garage Logic, and I find it awfully interesting. This is from KSDP.com Six federal prosecutors, including Assistant U.S. attorney Joe Thompson, resigned today amid mounting pressure to investigate the widow of Renee Goode. The New York Times reports the Department of Justice pressed for a criminal investigation into the actions of Renee Goode's widow on the day that she was shot and killed by ICE Agent Jonathan Ross, according to the report. Good's wife was seen on video engaging with Ross before the shooting, but none of her actions in the widely shared video appeared to be illegal. Harry Jacobs, Thomas Calhoun Lopez and Melinda Williams were also among those who resigned on Tuesday, according to the Times. Jacobs had been overseeing the U.S. attorney's Office investigation into fraud, and Calhoun Lopez was the chief of the Violent and Major Crimes Unit, the Times reported. The prosecutors did not disclose the reasons for their resignations to the Times. Thompson made headlines as the top prosecutor of federal fraud cases in the state. He also served as the interim U.S. attorney for the District of Minnesota before President Trump appointed Daniel Rosen as the permanent for former U.S. attorney Andrew Lugar. He also oversaw the bringing of charges in the shootings of the Hortmans and Hoffmans. Governor Walz said Joe Thompson is a principled public servant who spent more than a decade achieving justice for Minnesotans. This is a huge loss for our state. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I actually agree with Governor Walz. This is the latest sign that President Trump is pushing nonpartisan career professionals out of the Department of Justice and replacing them with his psychopaths. Those are the words of governor Tim Walz. Here's what I'd like to start with, and I want to get into a number of different angles with this story. Everyone needs to take a breath and we really need to settle down. And I get it. I'm blaming both sides of the political aisle with this because Joe talked about this at length and there's parts of it I agree with him and parts I question. And the parts that I agree with him are we could have handled this a bit better. And what I mean by we is the way that ICE kind of just took over, I think it could have been done a little bit more tact. But again, I'm not gonna blame anybody because I don't know what's going on. I don't know how they're operating. But if you're pulling over, for instance, yesterday there was a man and his wife and they told the agents we're US Citizens. They still detained them, they still held them and questioned them for eight hours, then finally released them. That's not a good look.

[D]

No, it's not a good look. In fact, I had lunch today with one of my friends who happens to be Indian, and he's carrying his passport around, and I said, I don't blame him one bit. I kind of said, why? Why? And he's like, Mike, they're pulling people of color over. And I said, I didn't know. I guess I knew that I don't know how that interaction happens. I'd assume that ICE agents were going after known people who had orders of deportation like that they were supposed to be deported. That's what I assumed was happening.

[C]

So I don't wanna name the highway that I was driving on because I don't wanna in any way incriminate myself, But I was driving to work. This was last week.

[D]

I think you told this story, but.

[C]

I wanna repeat it because it was clear. I was in the right lane. I was behind another vehicle, and an ICE agent passed me on the left, then passed the vehicle in front of me on the left, then hit the brakes and I went, oh. And pulled in between the two. Me and the car that was in front of me and pulled over that vehicle. Were they doing. I mean, we both were going mildly above the speed limit, but obviously he could see who I was.

[D]

Yeah, but they're not. Do you think they're just pulling over Random?

[C]

That's what. I don't know.

[D]

I don't know. I'm genuinely asking that I don't know.

[C]

But either he ran.

[D]

I don't think that would be right.

[C]

But I don't know. Maybe he ran plate and said, okay, there's no outstanding anything warrants, although outstanding good looks, there's no outstanding anything with this plate number. And maybe he did see something with that person's plate number. I have no idea. I guess the point is. And we're sending another 2,500. The problem that we have with this.

[D]

We'Re sending more ICE agents into Minnesota.

[C]

2,500.

[D]

Yeah, I heard a thousand. But okay, so It's.

[C]

Johnny had 2,500.

[D]

I'm not disputing that, but I didn't know. So it's going to be 4,500 ICE agents. And in this town seems like a lot of people.

[C]

And I guess I get that they have a job to do. And full disclosure, I've said this a million times. I'm the son of a retired law enforcement officer, so I'm a bit biased. But we continue to fuel both sides of the fire. When you've got situations like this, the one that I alluded to a few minutes ago with the couple, the married couple that was. They were legal citizens of this country. You're throwing red meat to the wolves.

[D]

Sure.

[C]

And that's not helpful. And I get anybody that's here illegally and is committing fraud any Other high level crime, you should not be here. That's my stance. And what I really don't like is this tenor of this anti law enforcement crusade that so many people are on that also is extremely dangerous because you're not allowing these men and women to do their job, number one, whether it's the federal level, the state level, the local level, whatever it is, let them do their job. That's what they're here for. And that's the problem that I have. And so earlier, Joe had asked aloud, well, why are they trying to investigate the widow of this woman that sadly was shot by an ICE agent? And the only thing I could come up with is, well, and I got into an argument with Johnny about this off the air and I had said, I don't believe that this woman, Renee Goode and her wife, I don't think that they were there by accident. They weren't just leaving Kowalski's and they just happened upon this scene. They were there specifically to be a pain in the butt. Now, does that mean she should have been shot and killed? Of course not.

[D]

No. But I think there is something deeper to it, and I don't think this is logical, but when you interfere. With someone. So when the Becca Good, right. When she was interfering with ICE agents in the process of a crime, because they thought it was a crime, that she was blocking the road, right. And a murder happened based on that. She was in that. In the process of a crime, someone was murdered. She can be arrested for murder in the state of Minnesota. I'm not an attorney.

[C]

Wait a minute. Say that again.

[D]

Because she was in the middle of a crime. So let's say, for example, she's robbing a bank. Her and her friend are robbing a bank, and the police officers come in and shoot one of the bank robbers. She can be arrested for murder because the police killed the bank robber.

[C]

You're kidding.

[D]

No, that's a law in the state of Minnesota. Caveat. I barely went to law school. And when I say barely, I didn't go to law school at all.

[C]

Got it.

[D]

But if you're committing a crime and a murder happens, some. One of our listeners knows this better than I do. You can have that murder, including the death by cop, right. Or ICE agent, put onto you so she could actually be investigated and arrested for the murder of her wife.

[C]

Well, again, I'm gonna say this 15 times so people hear me. I am not saying in any way that this woman should have been shot by an ICE agent. But I still to this day, after Watching the various videos, including the most recent one, at least the most recent one I saw. If there's another one out there, I'm willing to watch it. The most recent one that Alpha News released, I believe, Friday, where she's in her car, she is being told multiple times to get out of the car. And of course, she doesn't listen. And that whole interaction, we can dissect that as well. But she was told to get out of the vehicle.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

She does not get out of the vehicle. And it appears from that angle of that Alpha News video that she does, in fact, hit the ICE agent with her car. Now, we'll never know intent, what her.

[D]

Intent was because it doesn't matter because we don't need to know her attendance.

[C]

But my point is, I personally do not believe she was trying to leave the scene. And I'll tell you why. If she was trying to leave the scene, her spouse wasn't in the vehicle with her. Her spouse was outside of the vehicle. So that tells me, well, you're not trying to leave the scene.

[D]

I don't think she was trying to roll over an officer.

[C]

I'd like to think not either.

[D]

I mean, do you think. I think she was. This is just pure speculation. I think she was trying to get away much more than run over an officer. But her intent is. It's nice to talk about those in a hypothetical, but it really doesn't matter that the ICE officer didn't have to know her intent. He just had to feel like there was bodily harm. One thing that.

[C]

And this officer, by the way, was involved in an altercation previously, so there might be some PTSD with that as well.

[D]

One thing that I noticed is I'm watching this video, the same one you're referring to. It happened in a fraction of a second.

[C]

Absolutely.

[D]

She wasn't thinking. He wasn't thinking. It was. His response to it was instantaneous. And you heard kind of him go, ugh, like, he got hit. And then, like, the moment he gets hit, shots are fired. I'm like, how is he holding his camera in one hand?

[C]

Well, he was wearing a body cam.

[D]

No, he was holding a cell phone.

[C]

Oh, I thought it was a body cam.

[D]

In the video, you see another person, he's walking with his camera, and it is so police officer. I can't say his name. He asked me not to say his name. Wrote in, sent me some messages on this, and he said he's totally saddened by this. Right. He goes, the ICE agent who did it is incredibly saddened. He doesn't know that ICE agent, but he's like, I guarantee you, he's feeling like he wants to die. Right? He didn't want to do this, but he said if he put anyone in that scenario, any public officer, any civilian in that training scenario, 100 times of 100, that person would have been shot. He's like, it's not a question in my mind. You don't have time to think, what's this person's intention? What's this person's intention? And it doesn't even matter for law. It doesn't matter what her intent was. It's what happened. Right? And I said, wow, that seems crazy. He's like, I just beg people to. And this is him saying to calm down. Because this ICE agent didn't want to go out and say, I want to kill somebody. That's not what he wanted to do. It happened, though.

[C]

Yeah. And that's the part that's so frustrating, Mike, is because I think for the most part, most of us are pretty much aligned. You know, we want to raise kids, we want them to go to good schools. We want to earn a living. We want to have a good way of life. Maybe watch the Vikings or whatever, Whatever your hobby might be. And then for the most part, we want to be left alone. And I think that's the part that's gotten so lost on this. But there is a section of people who are dead set on causing havoc. That's not debatable. I mean, how many times have we seen that?

[D]

They don't think they're causing havoc.

[C]

I know they don't. They think that they're part of the resistance.

[D]

You never know. They may be. You know what I don't like? I don't like federal agents in my town. I get that ICE has a job to do. I can't argue that. I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. I don't like, because why isn't it just the military? What would be the difference if it was the military? Reverse. And all of a sudden, I just. That makes me feel like that's not terribly American feeling.

[C]

Well, did you see Jesse's comments last week?

[D]

I did.

[C]

I mean, he made a lot of salient points, but I guess rough. By the way, he does. Well, he's 77.

[D]

Shave and clean your face.

[C]

I guess the thing I would say to that, and I'm not saying I disagree with you, I think the frustration from so many people that are sick and tired of seeing what's happened to our State fraud chief among them. Right. That they think well we're left here helpless because no one is doing anything on the state level, no one is doing anything on the local level. What are we supposed to do? Just sit here and continue to be robbed? Because again we have seen billions and billions of our money being stolen from us and no one locally or at the state level was doing anything. I want to get back to Joe Thompson in a minute though. Okay, but first let's talk about we are nuts and we are nuts. Mn.com they were so nice by the way to send Joe a birthday present last week of his two favorite things.

[D]

You know what they didn't do? Send me a birthday present.

[C]

What in world the yeah.

[D]

Can you believe that? Are you wondering when my birthday is?

[C]

It was. I saw it on the frat pack Facebook today.

[D]

You're not gonna say happy birthday today? Happy Birthday.

[B]

See what I did?

[C]

I thought it was yesterday.

[D]

No, it was the 13th. It is the 13th. I waited till for sure as long as I could and then I wanted to throw out there so you'd be so embarrassed. Happy Birthday and thanks.

[C]

We are nuts.

[D]

Nothing for me.

[C]

Joe got the 10, you know the night the kind you would order for clients during the holiday season of half cashews and half milk chocolate almonds which done. Yeah we pretty much polished off the milk chocolate almonds here in the office. But anyway go to wearenutsmn.com and you can see all of the wonderful hand batch made snacks right here in the great state of Minnesota. But you can also go into all of your local Fratelloni's hardware and garden stores, Mac's Hardware, Lunds and Barleys, Kowalski's Markets, Cub Foods, Coburn's Kwiktrip and John Height tells me county market is now carrying the we are Nuts brand. It's been a wonderful revelation here for all of us and it's a wonderful family run operation and we're so happy to have them on board. So once again check them out [e-mail] and the weekly scramble. We will be right back. The main thing I wanted to bring up the Joe Thompson story is this Michael, this First of all Governor Walz actually nailed it when he said this is a huge loss for this state. And the reason why it's a huge loss for this state Governor Walz, is you and your administration did nothing to stop the fraud in this state.

[D]

So do you think Joe. Joe resigned. Joe Thompson resigned because they were gonna force him to try to prosecute. I don't know, it might have been.

[C]

A couple of different things. And obviously, no way want to speak for Joe Thompson. But I can understand being frustrated with that. I can also understand being frustrated when you're being told the FBI will handle this investigation.

[D]

Yeah, but I think this is different. If you read the first paragraph of that story you read it said the prosecution of Becky Goode.

[C]

You're right. Yes.

[D]

So I think Joe might say, hey, we're not going to prosecute Becca. Good.

[C]

But it's one thing to investigate someone, it's another to prosecute them.

[D]

Yeah, but that's. I mean, do you want to be known as the guy who investigates the partner of someone who was just shot in the face?

[C]

What if you happen to. What if you. Again, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying what if you happen upon information that's. That's crucial to this investigation?

[D]

Yeah, but I think the information's pretty clear. Do you think she was committing a crime? Well, maybe she was parked in front of.

[C]

But you know why I would be okay with her being investigated? What I would want to know is, what were you two doing there?

[D]

What does it matter?

[C]

Because I think that's a big piece of this. I really do.

[D]

Isn't it kind of clear they were trying to be part of the resistance?

[C]

Right. Okay. But it was also. I mean, I shouldn't say reported. There were also rumors that this wasn't their first interaction with ice and.

[D]

But it's okay. This one's a singular event. Doesn't matter what happened in all the times. Right. This is a singular event.

[C]

Right.

[D]

And yeah, it's.

[C]

But like I said, lost in this. Because I don't want to lose sight of the main reason why I think this is a huge, huge story. This is him and six other people that were the ones going. Finding out all this information. They're now gone. So we're basically starting over with this entire frauds. And Joe, sadly had a really good point. Watch the fraud story just go away now because there isn't anybody else investigating this. Yeah, it ain't gonna be Keith Ellison.

[D]

Yeah, but it ain't gonna be new attorneys. New attorneys will come in.

[C]

But that's, I guess my point, Mike.

[D]

They start all over.

[C]

Well, but here's. I guess what I want to. You know the theory of nobody hates a bad cop more than a good cop. Okay. It's the same thing. Nobody hates a bad teacher more than a good teacher.

[D]

Sure.

[C]

All right. So if we're going to be in a position where we're driving out the likes of this guy who does an amazing job and who we critically need. Well, we're not doing our jobs.

[D]

And not just him. A team. Yes, like a handful of team. One thing about this fraud, and I saw this stat that I wanted to bring up to you because I find it really interesting. So we're unsure what the fraud level was in Minnesota. One billion.

[C]

It was a lot.

[D]

Some are saying nine billion. Do you know what the nominal gross domestic product of Somalia is?

[C]

Oh my God. What?

[D]

Take a wild guess.

[C]

Don't tell me. It's wrong.

[D]

An entire country. What is their GDP in Somalia? I'll help you. 12.94 billion. We've almost committed. If 9 billion is a real number, we've almost committed the exact same amount are awfully damn close of fraud as the entire GDP of Somalia. Think of that. Reivers. The average nominal GDP per person in Somalia is $763.

[C]

That's insane.

[D]

I mean, that's what a Somalian is making for their entire year. That's their gross domestic product of what they do as a consumer and worker in Somalia is $763. Minnesota, the United States is going to have infinitely more than $12 billion worth of fraud, but Minnesota alone might come awfully close to that number. I find that unbelievably perplexing.

[C]

And that's why I have such a hard time with Keith Ellison getting in front of a camera this morning and claiming and taking this victory lap about how he and I believe also the state of Illinois are suing the Trump administration over this immigration process, which that's fine to have that conversation, but Keith, as Joe nailed earlier, Keith's done more work in the last 48 hours to put together this lawsuit against Trump than he has in the previous eight years to try anything to combat fraud in this state. It's a joke.

[D]

The world has jumped upside down. Cuz I think conservatives would say we don't want the federal government rolling through our town. Right. We don't want military presence in our town. Right. I think vast majority of conservatives would say that. Right. We don't want the national federal government to send troops into our town. Right?

[C]

Right.

[D]

I know ICE isn't troops. Right. I understand the difference of that. But now conservatives are saying, hey, let's take all ice here, let's get everybody from ice here, let's get 4,500. That's weird. And so for example, with Maduro, right, A handful of months ago, people were saying, Trump, why aren't you doing anything about Maduro? My God, this guy's a maniac. People in Venezuela are starving to death. Why aren't you doing something? And then he does something and they're like, how dare you go get Maduro.

[C]

Well, he's always gonna be in I can't win position.

[D]

But even Republicans said, leave Maduro alone, it's none of our damn business. And now we're saying, oh, thank God you got Maduro. Like, how are we flip flopping so much?

[C]

I don't know. But that is a major problem. A major problem.

[D]

Have you notice to mean to interrupt you? Have you noticed in town here the effects of people being afraid of ice? Because I've started to notice it a.

[C]

Lot now and I can tell why.

[D]

Why?

[C]

The number of restaurants that have descended.

[D]

The numbers, the number of restaurants are closed. I'm a babe. I'm naive. I'm naive or stupid, I don't know. I didn't believe we had a bunch of people here illegally. I didn't get it. Reivers. I just didn't know. I kind of thought it was maybe a 1 in 500. I'm making that number up. I didn't know. But when the local McDonald's that I go to isn't opening their dining room, they don't have a sign up that says no ice. They're not doing that. But they're not opening up their dining room because they don't have the employees to come into work. Then I think, well, those people that I saw every day working, there's one particular man that I see almost every day for years. Was he not legal to work here?

[C]

I wanted to bring an aspect of that up and I don't want to seem like I'm being some cold hearted bastard, because I'm really not. But to me, whether it's the restaurants and we won't really, I mean, I don't want. Yeah, I do want to go down that road. But does that mean then that everyone that was working there. So for instance, what you're telling me then is whether you're the Minneapolis public school system that shut their doors because people were scared to leave their homes. So is that you're telling me all of those people then are here illegally? Whether it's the students at the public schools, the employees at these restaurants, and there's other businesses that have followed suit as well. I don't wanna just pick on the restaurants. So you're telling me that all these.

[D]

People are here illegally or are they here on work visas or some kind of permitting or have temporary status that they just don't wann.

[C]

But if you have the proper documentation, as your friend carries around his passport, then what do you have to worry about? I don't know.

[D]

I don't think I'd want military guys with a mask over their face pulling me over. This is really a conundrum for me because when I hear ICE comes in, arrests a guy who murdered and raped a child, I want that guy gone. I want him put to death or whatever we have to do with him. Right? I don't believe in the death penalty actually, but I know what you mean. I want that guy to be taken.

[C]

Out, not be part of our society.

[D]

Yeah, but the guy that's working at McDonald's been there for years and I don't know if he's legal or not. Am I just that naive? Am I that light witted that I don't know if that maybe 1 in 30 is illegal? 1 in 50? Let me see what AI says as you pontificate.

[C]

Well, I guess the one thing I was gonna say about that is the one thing we've discovered is with all the various fraud going on in the food fraud, the welfare fraud, the Medicaid fraud, the autism fraud, all those things, whether it's this now with ice, the one thing I really hold near and dear to my heart and can hang my hat on is the fact that. God bless the fact that we have no election fraud.

[D]

A quick search. I know. Because we don't have election fraud at.

[C]

All, Especially in the state of Minnesota.

[D]

It wouldn't even matter if we had election fraud. Why would it matter unless the population of illegal voters. I think you are 10% who's ever even come close to winning an election on the conservative side in Minnesota?

[C]

Do you know what you can do right now, today?

[D]

What's that?

[C]

You can vote in the November election.

[D]

How is that?

[C]

Early voting started on January 7th.

[D]

Really?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Okay, that seems early. No, sh.

[C]

I almost said do we even know who's running? Don't you get the texts all the time? No, it's every day and I block every single one of them.

[A]

So.

[C]

By the way, if you're texting me about anything election related, I don't even care if it's somebody I might vote for. I'm blocking your number.

[D]

Okay. In Minnesota, estimates for the percentage of population who are unauthorized immigrants. They're not saying illegal immigrants, they're calling unauthorized. Vary, but it is around 1.4 to 2.2%. Approximately 90 to 130,000 individuals I will.

[C]

Only dispute that number because of the mass migration data that Pat Garofalo shared with us the last time.

[D]

He was higher than that.

[C]

I do think it's higher than that.

[D]

Because that's 2 in 100, right? That's 1 in 50. 1 in 50 people approximately, is not documented to work or not legal. Right. And that's according to Pew Research. I didn't know that. I just didn't. I guess I didn't look around where I. And maybe I'm just this lily white, a hole that doesn't go to places that have illegal immigrants there. I don't know. I just don't know. I don't see. I see a lot of diversity in my life, but I've never questioned that. Right? I've never questioned, oh, is that guy legal to be here? I would have just assumed all of them are. Everyone is.

[C]

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[D]

To be fair, bacon is kind of the star of that show.

[C]

Right?

[D]

You could have just made the bacon.

[C]

I'm not kidding.

[D]

But it's like, you add Masters maple, it's a totally different animal.

[C]

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[D]

I have some interesting stats on Minnesota. Right?

[C]

Go ahead.

[D]

Estimated 100,000 unauthorized population. Right. Of those, 36%. So 36,000 of them come from Mexico, 7% from Guatemala, 7% from El Salvador, 6%. 6,000 people from Ecuador. Then Let me see. They have. I'm jumping to. I'm trying to see Africa. 16,000 Africans are here illegally. 7,000 Asians, 10,000 Europeans, 11,000 South Americans, and 56,000 Mexico or Central America. And 23,000 people have been here less than five years. Here's a number that I find really interesting. Reivers, help me square this circle. Okay? 23,000 people have been here less than five years. Okay, five years is a long time, but it could be one day. Right? But 43,000. Of those 100,000 people, 43%, 43,000 have been here more than 20 years. If you can't argue that that's de facto citizenship, I don't know what you can argue.

[C]

But what's preventing you from just becoming a citizen?

[D]

Because you can't get it. You can't get the legal status. So you've been here 20 plus years, 43,000.

[C]

Being a productive member of society, being.

[D]

A guy working at a restaurant, a guy working at a car dealership, a family that has kids going to Roosevelt or Roseville or wherever. I mean, we as Minnesotans, as federal government, as the federal government, allowed much of this to happen. We had the wall totally torn down. The border was wide open. We allowed people to come in, and half of our politicians were saying, come on in. Come on in. We bear some responsibility to that, right? Is that not so? I'm thinking of a family that's been here for 20 years that doesn't. Something doesn't feel great about that to me. It just doesn't. I don't want that guy to go. His kid plays on your kid's baseball team, Right?

[C]

But again, status quo wasn't working, so something had to be done.

[D]

But I get it, and that's enough. Maybe I'm just now that I'm turning a little older because it's my birthday.

[C]

Happy birthday.

[D]

Sorry. You don't have to say it again. But now that I'm turning a little older, maybe I'm just getting to be a softie. I don't know what it is, but something about people being here for 20 years. Do we want the federal government chasing them down? I don't know.

[C]

Can we turn to a different topic? It's not even really lighthearted because there's one thing in the world that I can't stand.

[D]

Puppy mills.

[C]

Puppy mills would, sure, okay. But it's guys that waste their talent and their opportunity.

[D]

Oh, somebody's getting arrested somewhere.

[C]

Minnesota Vikings wide receiver Jordan Addison is once again in legal trouble. Just two weeks after the end of the Vikings season. The 23 year old was arrested Monday morning in Florida and is charged with misdemeanor trespassing. The Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office says that Addison was arrested by Seminole Indian Police at Hard Rock Hotel and casino at around 3:45am he was booked at around 7:30am and was released on $500 bond at about 2:40pm local time. Further details about the incident weren't immediately available. Vikings head coach Kevin o' Connell had no comment when asked about the incident on Tuesday. He said, this is according to our guy, Darren Doogie. Wolfson KOC is aware, but said it's too early to offer any comment on let's go through the laundry list, shall we?

[D]

Yeah. What did he do?

[C]

It's the latest off field incident for the former first round pick who was also cited for driving 140 miles an hour on Interstate 94 back in 2023, although he did tell the police officer his dog was sick so he had to run home.

[D]

Makes sense. Well, what if he has a nice duvet and the dog's barfing on it?

[C]

He also pleaded guilty to a DUI charge in 2024. That second charge led to a suspension for the first three games of this past calendar season. After a stellar rookie season in which he cut 70 passes for 110 years, his production has dipped. Okay, that has more to do with the quarterback. While his talent is undeniable, his off the field antics may force the Vikings to consider moving on in the near future if they continue at all.

[D]

His fourth year rookie contract that he's in this year $13.73 million.

[C]

He had a guaranteed sign this next year, right?

[D]

Fifth year option the team option for 2027 season will be 17.5 based on performance.

[C]

Here's what I'd like to tell young Jordan Addison. Dude, you are he's and I'm not gonna he is a really good player. You're a talented player. On any other team that didn't have a Justin Jefferson, you'd probably be the number one option and you would probably be set to make a whole boatload of money. No one in their right freaking mind is gonna invest into a nut job like this.

[D]

Do we have a laugh track? Do you have a laugh track?

[C]

I'm gonna tell you why.

[D]

Do you think some other team's not going to pick him up in a fraction of a second? Go ahead and tell me why and then I'll tell you why they're going to pick him up.

[C]

The investment you're missing the key part. Will he play? Of course he's going to play. No one is going to sink 30 million bucks into a receiver. He's going to get suspended again because of this.

[D]

They will 100% do that. Do you remember a little man named Michael Vick? Michael. Vicky picked up dogs by their hind legs and smashed them against the ground.

[C]

Okay, okay.

[D]

The world went nuts when they heard that about Michael Vick. But you know what Michael Vick was.

[C]

He did go to prison.

[D]

He did. But Michael Vick is what they call talented. So the NFL said, we don't give two shits that you were smashing dogs to the ground. You're a stud when you can play this game. So teams took him, and he made a fortune playing football.

[C]

But keep this one thing in mind.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

No one touched him after he was released from prison. Nobody signed that guy until Andy Reid said, I'll take him in as a backup.

[D]

Sure.

[C]

He was the only coach that did that.

[D]

But Jordan Addison just got no trespass from a Hard Rock Hotel.

[C]

But it's not just that incident.

[D]

I get it.

[C]

It's the fact that this is incident number four.

[D]

He was driving his Lamborghini at 140 miles per hour.

[C]

23.

[D]

No one's gonna care. The guy can catch balls thrown to him at 74 mph. He can score every once in a while. He can run a 440.

[C]

But you're. I think the thing, Mike, is.

[A]

How.

[D]

Long will he get suspended for a stupid. He's not. This is. This is a Mr. Mean Error.

[C]

It's not just because it's this incident. It's because this is the fourth incident. He's already been suspended. He will get another suspension from this. That I think so.

[D]

Why? What did he actually do? Did it say what?

[C]

That's the thing. We don't know.

[D]

That's right.

[C]

So let's be careful because we don't know how serious it was. But if you're being charged with trespassing.

[D]

The bond was $500. It can't be that.

[C]

But if you're being charged with trespassing at a hotel, I think we all could draw our own conclusion.

[D]

Have you never been drunk in a hotel? Have you never said, over my dead body you'll drag me out of here?

[C]

So you think driving 140 miles an hour. No Lamborghini was for his dog?

[D]

No, no. I think it's a 20 year old that we gave 17 million bucks to. And he said, you know what? I have a car that will do 200 miles per hour. Am I justifying his actions? Absolutely not. He's a complete and utter moron. But if we think for a second that the NFL gives two shits about his background, he's not killing people right now. He's not beating on his wife. He's not raping children. He's not doing that stuff. Allegedly. We don't know any of that. Right. He's spunky. At a hotel, maybe, and they said we're no trespassing him.

[C]

I think.

[D]

Do you think it's bigger than that? You think that story's bigger than that?

[C]

No. Here's how I'll frame it. No matter what the league is, right? Baseball, football, hockey, basketball, there's what we call tolerance, right? Your tolerance. The tolerance for your behavior gets increased by how good of a player you are. And he's great, and he is a good player. I don't think he's great.

[D]

I mean, he's a very, very good.

[C]

I think he's a good player. But because they can't trust you. I think he's played his last game for the Vikings.

[D]

That could be totally true, because the Vikings might have to do something about it.

[C]

But I think what happens here is the fact that when you're not living up, like when they can't count on you, they're not going to pay you if you're not. The biggest liability is unavailability.

[D]

How much? You are infinitely smarter than me on Sports Reverse. You are infinitely smarter. There's a gap in your logic here. No one cares. This is a misdemeanor. No trespassing in Florida. He got out on a $500 bond.

[C]

But it's not this. It's the track record.

[D]

But it doesn't matter what his track record is.

[C]

So you think this is the last time he'll be arrested?

[D]

No. This kid's a moron.

[C]

He'll get my point.

[D]

They won't give a crap. They'll sign a morality clause in his contract and they'll say, hey, we're gonna pay you 27 million bucks a year. But if you get caught with a prostitute in the hotel room, we're taking 10 million bucks off of it.

[C]

Best of luck to that team that gives this knucklehead $27.

[D]

Honest to God. He will be signed by someone in a heartbeat. I do know this reverse, and I don't know a lot, but I do know why pirates don't take showers when they walk the plank.

[C]

Mike, why don't pirates take showers when they walk the plank?

[D]

Because they'll wash up on the shore. Reverse Reavers. It is my birthday.

[C]

Happy birthday, bud.

[D]

I love you more than anybody. 55. I can say that now. Don't know. I'm fully entering my menopause now. You are the best.

[C]

Thank you, Michael. You are, too. And happy birthday, brother. Please do us a favor. Rate and review the show wherever you happen to be listening to the weekly Scramble podcast. It helps other people find the show. It helps us out as well. And we appreciate each and every single one of you. His name is Mike Fratelloni. My name is Chris Reivers. Thank you so very much for listening to the weekly Scramble Podcast. We'll talk to you again next time. Until then, cheers.