SCRAMBLE: Nobody and I mean NOBODY breaks down the Lane Kiffin situation quite like Reuvers and Frattallone!!

Summary

Garage Logic Weekly Scramble Podcast

Episode: "Nobody and I mean NOBODY breaks down the Lane Kiffin situation quite like Reuvers and Frattallone!!"
Date: December 3, 2025
Host: Chris Reuvers
Co-host: Mike Frattallone

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Episode Overview

In this lively and wide-ranging episode, Chris Reuvers and Mike Frattallone belly up for another Weekly Scramble, starting with a humorous and heartfelt post-Thanksgiving debrief before tackling recent viral psychology studies, city policy experiments, and—above all—the blockbuster Lane Kiffin coaching saga. The duo, fueled by Frattallone’s inside perspective as an Ole Miss parent, dissect the wild world of college football contracts, the messy coach carousel, and Kiffin's eyebrow-raising next move. The episode rounds out with thoughts on local liquor ordinances, paid family leave, and a deep dive into the real human toll of America's opioid crisis.

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Thanksgiving Recap: Food, Family, and Traditions

[00:55–05:45]

• Reuvers relishes hosting Thanksgiving, sharing his love for preparing turkey ahead of time (“I love doing all of the stuff associated with hosting a Thanksgiving meal. I truly do enjoy it.” – Chris, 03:20).
• Humorous pie debate: Chris is a pecan pie devotee, Mike’s a pumpkin pie loyalist.
  • Chris: “My mom makes the best pecan pie known to man.” (01:22)
  • Mike: "Pecan pie was the version of sour patch nuclear waste candy from 1940." (01:41)
• The two reminisce about White Castle’s role in holiday stuffing and bemoan chain restaurants veering from their roots.
  • Mike: “Make 39 cent hamburgers that you instantaneously regret after you have five of them.” (05:27)

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The Batman Effect and the Power of Human Behavior

[05:46–12:36]

• Mike brings up a quirky academic study:
  • Researchers had a pregnant woman board a train; sometimes, a man dressed as Batman followed.
  • “People were far more likely to give up their seats when Batman was present…67.21% of the time.” (Mike, 07:13)
• The hosts liken this to how drivers react to police, theorizing about psychological triggers for prosocial behavior.
• Ingenious “mirror” anecdote: Hotels cut elevator complaints to zero by adding mirrors for distraction, not fixing the elevators.
  • “They didn’t spend $5 million; they just put mirrors up. And all of a sudden, complaints went away.” (Mike, 09:23)
• Mike: Maybe we should try Batman posters/statues on public transit to impact behavior.

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Parenting, Milestones, and TikTok Trends

[12:36–15:15]

• Discussing bittersweet viral videos about the “last time” parents pick up their kids, with Chris reflecting on carrying his growing son:
  • “He’s a hundred pounder…Dear God, I remember when this used to be a lot easier.” (Chris, 13:23)
• The passage of time, nostalgia, and the emotional gut-punch of parenting milestones.
• Mike details how TikTok algorithms now bombard him with stories about Ole Miss and Lane Kiffin as his daughter prepares to attend (“These crafty Chinese…all I get is stories about Lane Kiffin.” – Mike, 15:21).

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Deep Dive: Lane Kiffin’s Coaching Saga

[17:25–28:11]

Background (17:33–19:28)

• Chris recounts Lane Kiffin’s roller-coaster coaching trajectory, rooted in Minnesota, and redemptive stint at Ole Miss.
  • “He went through a bitter divorce, stopped drinking, took up yoga, reconciled with his family…” (18:45)
  • Mike: “His daughter goes there… it was a really cool story.” (19:13)

The Move to LSU (19:28–21:27)

• Kiffin leaves Ole Miss for a colossal $93M, 7-year deal with 80% guaranteed even if fired.
  • “That’s pretty damn amazing. Those are big numbers.” (Mike, 19:48)
• Rumors swirl on TikTok about Kiffin’s direct messages to female Ole Miss co-eds.
  • “Do we know they’re all real? No. Are some of them really funny? Yes.” (Mike, 20:13)

Coaching Culture, Loyalty, and Criticism (21:28–24:41)

• Mike: “If you’re thinking of sending your young man to LSU to play for Lane Kiffin, don’t believe one word he says…he’s trying to get you there so he can build a championship team.” (20:55)
• Chris defends Kiffin, pointing out the whole profession rewards transactional, slick behavior.
  • “They’re all slick oil salesmen…there is so much money at stake.” (21:38)
• Mike questions why coaches leave before seasons end and transfer portals open so early.
  • Chris: “These coaches don’t want this to be fixed. They love this. Because it creates inherent demand for their services.” (23:57)
• Both lament the warped economics that drive constant churn:
  • “Some of these coaches…they re-upped him for $92 million.” (Chris, 23:44)

Legacy vs. Money (24:41–28:01)

• Chris wonders if Kiffin would rather have LSU’s spotlight or “be the guy that has the stadium at Ole Miss named after you...You will be the identity of a program.” (27:03)
• Mike quips about Kiffin’s lifestyle quirks and social media antics (“Never trust a guy who posts pictures on Instagram after hot yoga shirtless when you’re above 25.” – 27:53)
• Both ultimately express disappointment, wishing Kiffin had stuck for a legacy at Ole Miss.

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Shakopee’s Open-Container Social District: Local Policy and Civic Fun

[29:15–34:33]

• Mike spotlights Shakopee and a handful of Minnesota cities allowing “walkable” liquor zones downtown.
  • “You go to one of these 12 bars and you can buy a cup…that allows you to walk out and go to a different bar.” (29:54)
• Proposes St. Paul adopt a similar system, referencing the Minnesota State Fair’s one-cup drink policy and Omaha’s lively bar scene.
• Practical civic ideas: leveraging special branded cups to allow open-carry of drinks (and funnel proceeds to city projects).
• Chris reminisces about Shakopee's Derby weekend and new amphitheater, painting a picture of suburban revitalization.

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Work Culture & Minnesota Paid Family Leave

[35:26–36:43]

• Chris asks Mike if Minnesota’s new Paid Family Leave Act will be a problem for businesses.
• Mike: “We work, we’re workers. No one’s taking three months off. And those that do, we would already have done that for them.” (35:38)
• They note most businesses with “compassion” already offer support, and the new policy will just formalize and tax to fund it.

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Drug Crisis and the Sinking Boat in the News

[37:53–43:09]

• Frattallone brings up a news story: U.S. forces bomb a drug-running boat off Trinidad & Tobago, following up with sobering stats on the opioid crisis.
  • “In the last five years from opioid deaths: 475,000… We went to war for years with Vietnam, lost 282,000 people. If Canada attacked us and killed 475,000…Canada would be gone.” (Mike, 41:09)
• 28.2 million Americans aged 12+ suffer from drug use disorder:
  • “They’re bringing them in… creating 28 million zombies in America.” (Mike, 42:05)
• Chris agrees with the harsh necessity, given the scale of harm.
  • “If these are the people that are bringing hundreds and thousands of illegal drugs…that are quite literally killing our citizens.” (Chris, 39:13)
• Both express dismay at the rampant destruction caused by fentanyl and opioid trafficking.

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Notable Quotes

• Chris on hosting Thanksgiving:
  “I love doing all of the stuff associated with hosting a Thanksgiving meal. I truly do enjoy it.” [03:20]

• Mike on the Batman study:
  “People were far more likely to give up their seats when Batman was present…67.21% of the time.” [07:13]

• Chris on Lane Kiffin’s career:
  “He went through a bitter divorce, stopped drinking, took up yoga, reconciled with his family…” [18:45]

• Mike on coaching contracts:
  “That’s pretty damn amazing. Those are big numbers.” [19:48]

• Chris on football coaches:
  “They’re all slick oil salesmen…there is so much money at stake.” [21:38]

• Mike comparing opioid deaths to war:
  “In the last five years from opioid deaths: 475,000… We went to war for years with Vietnam, lost 282,000 people.” [41:09]

• Frattallone on open-container cities:
  “I think this is a relatively new thing…maybe we were doing it, we were supposed to have done that before that, but I thought it was September of 25.” [33:53]

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Episode Highlights by Timestamp

• Thanksgiving Traditions & Pie Debate: [00:55–05:45]
• Batman Effect & Human Behavior: [05:46–12:36]
• Parenting, TikTok, and Milestones: [12:36–15:15]
• Lane Kiffin Deep Dive: [17:25–28:11]
• Shakopee’s Social District & Local Policy: [29:15–34:33]
• Paid Leave Law Discussion: [35:26–36:43]
• Opioid Crisis & Drug Boat Story: [37:53–43:09]

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Conclusion

Chris Reuvers and Mike Frattallone deliver an energetic, wide-ranging episode blending everyday humor with timely sports drama and pressing social questions. Their breakdown of Lane Kiffin’s move is incisive, skeptical, and personal, while local civic innovations and national crises get equal weight in a show that’s as much about heartland common sense as it is about headline news. Their easy rapport and storytelling will ring true to any fan who prizes small-town gumption and frank discussion.

"We covered a lot of ground." – Chris, 43:20

Transcript

[A]

Hey, Garage Logic fans, Mishke here, slipping in ever so briefly to mention that I have a podcast that comes out every Wednesday and every Friday, twice a week now. The show is pretty much about everything you care about and are interested in and need in your life and want to know more about. I tailored the darn thing specifically to your liking. I tailored it to your loves, to your true passions. That took a long time. I'm spent. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely wasted. And.

[B]

This is the weekly Scramble, a place where we chat about life over a cold one or two. It's time to belly up to the pod with Mike Fratelloni and your host, Chris Reivers.

[C]

That's right. It's time for the weekly Scramble podcast. My name is Chris Reivers. With me as always, his name is Mike Fratelloni. Hello, Michael.

[B]

How you doing, Reivers?

[C]

I'm good. I'm good. I'm still recovering from my turkey and baked corn. Corn and stuffing and everything else. Although I gotta be honest, I had to check in with my gal Emma today. Awaken 180 weight loss and awaken10weightloss.com. I actually did very, very well. And it's because I mostly avoided the sweets this weekend.

[B]

Oh, that sucks.

[C]

I did eat a lot of turkey. I ate a lot of ham. Ate a lot of ham. But I did a successful job of. And I gotta tell you, my mom makes the best pecan pie known to man. And I love pecan pie.

[B]

You do?

[A]

I can't.

[C]

I can't.

[B]

Pecan pie seems like. You know how when you go to the gas station and you see, like, sour patch nuclear waste candy?

[A]

Right?

[B]

Pecan pie was the version of that from 1940. No.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Do not dismiss pecan pie.

[B]

Because, like, you could have pumpkin pie and then someone made like, let's make rhubarb pie. And they're like, wait, rhubarb? Or they make pecan pie that tastes like sugar candy and rots out your teeth.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's the equivalent of a sour patch.

[C]

What are you, an apple pie guy?

[B]

What are you? I'm a pumpkin pie.

[C]

See, I don't like pumpkin pie.

[B]

You're dumb.

[C]

I know. I know I am. And especially this time of the year. And both of my kids. Pumpkin pie, but both of my kids. So mom made pecan pie. Pumpkin pie. I bought an apple pie because, you know, you gotta bring something for everybody. But, you know, I didn't know. And my kids love pumpkin pie. I just.

[B]

I don't know what it is in the microwave for 30 seconds and they.

[C]

Both my kids devour it. They love it. But I just, I've never been.

[B]

Let me ask you this. Do you really like turkey? The reason I asked you.

[C]

I like it the way I make it. Yes.

[B]

The reason I ask is Masters Maples.

[C]

Came through in a huge way, by the way.

[B]

Yeah, you put enough Masters Maple on anything, it's gonna be good. But the reason I ask is how many people buy a turkey on September 3, on March 6 and bake a turkey.

[C]

That's true.

[B]

You only do it. I mean it must be the kind of meat that we just don't care about. I mean, I eat chicken almost every day. Yeah, I eat turkey maybe once every 15 days in thin slices on a turkey sandwich.

[C]

Okay, okay.

[B]

But I don't like. And I enjoy the turkeys that were made for Thanksgiving. They were done. Great. Would I have rather had a steak or ribs or a hot dog maybe?

[C]

I'm gonna tell you this though. This was, you know, it's not often that I host, but I love doing. And you're gonna think I'm weird. That's fine. I love doing all of the stuff associated with hosting a Thanksgiving meal. I truly do enjoy it. In fact, on Wednesday I got home from work, 6ish, 6 o'. Clock. Somewhere in there, I had to make one stop which wasn't prepared for that. God bless the Coburns in Belle Plaine.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

In and out.

[C]

I made one stop and I thought, okay, I know exactly what I need. I needed like two things. I'm gonna, I'm going to be out and bingo. I'm sure I got home about a little after 6 o', clock, turned the oven on, I had the thing ready to go. All I needed to do was take out the guts, throw in there little Masters maples and a little broth, throw it in the oven and I'll be good to go. So I did the turkey actually Wednesday night, the night before, and then put it in the crock pot with all the stuff with the broth and everything else. And then that way when I woke up Thursday morning, I wouldn't have to get up at 5 in the morning. You just get up at, you know, whatever. My normal time is usually like 6:30. Get up, then start the ham in the crock pot.

[B]

All you have to really do is heat the ham and then.

[C]

Exactly. Then that way the oven is free.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And so I could do the baked corn and my sister in law made the taters and everything else. But I forget where I was going with that. The point was, you love doing it. I love doing that. And that's when. I mean, I will crush turkey on Thanksgiving.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Oh, God, yes. Yeah. I mean, even though it makes me a bit seepy, that's fine. But I will crush turkey at Thanksgiving. Yeah.

[B]

That extra little bit of trip to.

[C]

Van and I almost did Rookie's white castle stuffing mix, but I completely forgot to stop for White castle on my way home. But I got that at Colburn's.

[B]

They have them in the freezer section, probably.

[C]

Oh, my God, you're right. I didn't even think of that. Or Rademacher. Oh, darn it. Have you ever. You've had it, right?

[B]

No, I haven't.

[C]

It's. It's really.

[B]

I haven't had a White Castle in a long time.

[C]

The White castle stuffing that Rookie makes is. I hate giving them credit. It's amazing.

[B]

I think I kind of lost my love of White Castle when they started doing chicken fingers like, you're White castle, right? Make 39 cent hamburgers that you instantaneously regret after you have five of them.

[C]

Make White castle great again.

[B]

Right? I mean, don't, don't. Why are you doing. Why are you doing. I like their onion rings, though. I have to say that.

[C]

Okay, so let me ask you this because you brought two very intriguing stories to the table. Which one would you like to start with? Do you want to start with Batman or do you want to start with.

[B]

The city of the Batman one? Because it's not really a story. I just find it was a study that. That was done. And I find it absolutely fascinating what weird creatures people are. Okay. It's called the Batman effect.

[C]

Who did the study? Out of curiosity, do you have it available?

[B]

That's a super great question. Who did the study? But it was a university study. It says. Sorry.

[C]

No, it's all good.

[B]

I took a screenshot of it. I should have put the link.

[C]

Here's the only reason why I ask. I took a couple of psychology courses. And keep in mind, I am the son of a clinical psychologist, right? So I took a bunch of psychology courses my early run in college, thinking that this might be an avenue I want to go down. And that's why I'm always fascinated. Stuff like this.

[B]

Okay? So here's what the researchers did. It's called the Batman effect. A woman posing as a pregnant person. Pregnant woman boarded the train. In some trials, a second experimenter dressed as Batman entered through another door. Okay, okay, so let's start one. Half the time she Just goes onto the train as a pregnant woman. The other half, she goes onto the train as a pregnant woman. And through another door into that same train, Batman. A man dressed as Batman walks in. All right, all right, here's the interesting part. People were far more likely to give up their seats when Batman was present. In fact, 37.66% of the time, they did it for a pregnant woman when Batman wasn't present.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

But 67.21% of the time, people somehow felt Batman as a presence or saw Batman and said, batman's here to help people. I need to get off my ass and give this pregnant woman my seat. How interesting is that?

[C]

Isn't it the same type of chemical mindset that you get when. Let's just say you're driving down 169. I've been picking on 169 a lot because I take that road every single day. And all of a sudden you see a squad car either in the median or maybe coming up behind you. Well, I must get over.

[B]

I must get over.

[C]

And my hands are now at 10 and. And I'm looking straight ahead. And I was going 74 and a 65. And now I'm going 68 and a 65.

[B]

That's exactly right. Okay, I think what we should do from this learned study, we should throw Batman pictures on light rail. We don't even need to have men dressed as Batman.

[C]

Would it work?

[B]

What if it did? What if it lowered crime by 4%? A poster of Batman might just be enough.

[C]

I got it. Even better.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

A life size statue of Batman on.

[B]

Every car on every train. Honest to God. There's things. I'm sure you've heard this study. So there was another study that this business did. It was a very famous hotel. They were getting a ton of complaints about their elevators. So they said, we gotta fix this. We gotta figure this out. And they went out and got bids. And putting new elevators in a hotel is really quite expensive. In fact, it was up to 5 million for an elevator to put multiple elevators in these because they just weren't such an old hotel that it was just going to be really expensive. And they said, well, let's try to do something else. Right? And this was the number one complaint about the hotel. You know what they did? Reivers, talk to me. They put all of the walls by the elevators. They filled them with mirrors. So all of a sudden, instead of someone waiting for the elevator, they stared at themselves in the mirror. And the complaints went from the number one complaint thing to Almost zero complaints. And all they did, they didn't fix the elevators. They didn't change one thing. They didn't spend $5 million. They just put mirrors up. And I don't know that putting statues of Batman on our light rail stations or on the trains themselves would actually reduce crime. But what if it did? What if it reduced crime by 3%? That would be pretty damn impressive.

[C]

Okay, I've gotta find it. I cannot believe you mentioned the mirror part of the elevator in the hotel. So I'm trying to find the name of it because it was such a really cool. I'll find the name of it here in a second. So years ago, you know the story. I was driving back from a Bills game and I was going to be the spotter for the Gophers at the Quick Lane bowl in Detroit, which is now, I believe, called the and one Sports bowl in Detroit, which, even better, I swear to God, I hope the Gophers go back again just to get Royce going. In any event, I was gonna stay maybe two or three blocks away from Ford Field at this just gorgeous, old updated hotel in. I forget that part of Detroit, what it's called. So this is, you know, like three days after Christmas, right? It's in that run where no one's working. Everyone's got free time and money to burn and whatever else anyway. And I remember I was on like the seventh or eighth floor, something like that, like, not terribly far. And the gal said, just so you know, sir, we're down to one elevator in the hotel. She said, but there's multiple staircases and, you know, here's your free breakfast as a 10th floor.

[B]

I don't give a shit about the staircases.

[C]

But it wasn't that far. Honestly, I didn't mind because I wanted to get my steps in anyway. I didn't care. I didn't care. And so I remember I did wait for. Because I had all my stuff, right? So I did wait for quite a while to get my elevator up to my room. And I thought, you know what? I need the steps. Because I was gonna go back down and meet up with the crew to do the Gopher game. And the stairwell went around where this stunning, like, 700 foot high Christmas tree was.

[B]

Oh, very cool.

[C]

And there were mirrors everywhere. And I remember going, I would not have had this experience.

[B]

It was just, look at that.

[C]

It was just cool. There was Christmas music playing. The snow was falling. Thank God I didn't have to drive anywhere anymore. And I just remember thinking this was a cool, like, little Just sliver in time that I got to experience because you didn't fix your damn elevator. Like, it was just kind of cool.

[B]

What a great story. Thank you. That's a good story. You found life's happiness by doing something better, right? Instead of waiting for an elevator. I hate elevators, by the way. Every time I go to a hotel, you know what level I want to stay on? One ground.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I want to stay on ground. I don't. Especially if I'm in a bum fart wherever.

[C]

Oh, yeah, if you're up there, put.

[B]

You on the fourth floor. Why? No, why? The. The field and the parking lot. I'm fine on ground level. Then I don't have to go to.

[C]

The elevator because my kids are gonna want to go swimming in two minutes anyway.

[B]

I don't have.

[C]

Well, no, but I forget. I forgot to. You know, I didn't set up that picturesque Christmas time scene perfectly because I was chugging two beers on my way to the golf. I'm kidding.

[B]

You know, that's funny that you said that. I'm joking. My kids would want to go to the pool. You have boys and I have girls. Yes, my girls, at some point in time, just, we're not swimming. Looked at me like, what, you think I'm gonna get my hair wet? It changed. I think boys would do it like pretty much all their lives. Like, oh, you want to go for a hot tub?

[C]

Don't tell me that that is gonna. The second that that time comes, it's going to break my heart.

[B]

There's a trend on TikTok right now that you're gonna love. Your wife's gonna really love it. It's gonna break her, just break her heart.

[C]

Oh, no.

[B]

Your wife's petite, very light. And the thing is, is that at some point in time in your life, you pick up your child for the last time.

[C]

Don't. I saw this.

[B]

And moms are going up to their like 17 year old sons that weigh.

[C]

On, you're not done yet.

[B]

And they're telling the story. And then they try to hold their kids again.

[C]

I had to do this with my now 11 year old son a couple of days ago. He's been a little under the weather and. And I had to carry him upstairs. And this kid, he's a hundred pounder. He's a brick outhouse, right? I went, dear God, I remember when this used to be a lot easier because he's just, he's not, he's not overweight. He's just a thick kid, you know, I remember going, oh, My God, I'm gonna throw up my back carry my kid.

[B]

Do you remember when you hit 100 pounds? I don't, but like I remember. I'm not trying to throw off your stomach.

[C]

No, no, no, go.

[B]

I just remember those things where I first hit five foot. Our first hit, 100 pounds, those were big miles.

[C]

Remember? I might have been, I don't know.

[B]

Get my first chest hair.

[C]

Sixth grade, seventh grade. I was a. See, I was a twig, okay, all the way through. When I graduated high school, I was 160 pounds and I was sick. Yeah, six, three. But I. I think I was 160, 170 when I graduated, by the way. Yeah. Oh, thanks.

[B]

That's humble brag. £4 more than the weight I graduated from.

[C]

But the thing I thought you were gonna bring up was there was a TikTok video that I only saw on Twitter because I don't TikTok. Cause I'm not a 15 year old girl. But it was the. It goes faster than, you know. So it's picture, you're in the kitchen and there's a young man grabbing his, whatever, his football equipment, his basketball shoes, his school bag, whatever. All right, dad, I gotta catch the bus. And he's eight. And then it's okay, dad, I gotta head to practice. He's 11. And it's just this transformative thing and I had to stop. I said, no, no, no, no, can't do it.

[B]

I don't want to rush this.

[C]

And it was, you know, it was 9 o' clock at night, I'm trying to go to bed. I go, if I watch this, I'm not gonna be able to fall asleep. Cause I'm gonna start bawling my eyes out. Cause I'm a giant wiener. I can't help it.

[B]

I love that. I know you don't go on TikTok, but I've experienced a lot of TikTok lately. And as everyone that listens to this show knows that one of my daughters is committed to go to Ole Miss next year.

[C]

Oh, I wanna bring that up, by the way.

[B]

So we've been spe. Going down and talking about Ole Miss. And these crafty Chinese, they are crafty because what they said is mica, like Ole Miss stories. And they. I just did a Chinese accent. Can I do that?

[C]

Sure.

[B]

Okay. Well, I don't know. That was a communist Chinese.

[C]

Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

[B]

The Chicoms is what I think they call them. So those guys really figured out my algorithm. And all I get is stories about Lane Kiffin All I get is story. But have you heard the newest thing about this?

[C]

Can you hang on?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Hold on.

[B]

Let's go ahead. Let's tell people. I'm gonna tell you a story about Lane Kiffin after this break that you haven't heard. Although you've only heard a hundred stories about Lane Kiffin lately.

[C]

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[B]

You knew I was.

[C]

The floor is yours.

[B]

And I am just mad at Lane. I don't blame him for going to lsu. I think he's going to get his ass whooped there. He's going to hate the culture.

[C]

Let's explain the background story for those that are unfamiliar. So Lane Kiffin, I should give a little bit of the further background on Lane Kiffin. He has been the Ole Miss head football coach for I believe the past seven seasons. He, it was kind of a redemption story. So he was the Young Hotshot Coach 20 some years ago that was named the head coach of the then Oakland Raiders when he was 31 years old. Bloomington Jefferson High School graduate. His dad Monty was a longtime Vikings defensive coordinator. And he was this big up and coming hotshot coach. Got fired from the Raiders, took the job at Tennessee for a year, left them to go to South California. Usc coached them for a couple of years, got fired from that job, then became the Alabama offensive coordinator. Nick Saban fired him before the national championship game because he was sniffing around a different job at fau, which Johnny. That's one of the greatest GL moments ever because Johnny Height called it fu. Okay. Said nope. You're missing a letter there, Johnny.

[B]

Florida Atlantic.

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Florida Atlantic University. Not Florida University. University. And then did a great job there. Got hired at Ole Miss and really re established himself as being kind of a. Okay, now he's stable. He went through a bitter divorce, stopped drinking, he quit drinking. He took up yoga with his family. He and his wife reconciled, kind of. Kind of. And then the family kind of really went all in on Oxford. His son was a high school quarterback, I believe, at Oxford High School.

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His daughter goes there and it was.

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A really cool story. And I just thought good for him. And I was really, really hoping, knowing that your daughter was going to be going to school there, you and I are going to road trip to a game down there at some point. I was really, really hoping that he was going to stay in Oxford, Mississippi.

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And then LSU came around, boatload of cash, about 93 million bucks for seven years with a clause that says if we fire you for anything but cause. So if we fire you, just release you because you're not performing well, you get to keep 80% of the contract.

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Think of that remaining 80% of the.

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Remaining 80% of the remaining contract, which is pretty damn amazing. Those are big numbers. But now on TikTok, because TikTok will grind the world right down to the nubs. Many people are putting up their DMs of Lane Kiffin's DMs to them.

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Oh no.

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Many co eds that attended ole Miss. Do we know that they're all real?

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No.

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Are some of them really funny? Yes. Do I absolutely believe that some of them are real? 100%. I think if I'm not mistaken, he dated a girl briefly that attended Ole Miss.

[C]

Well, a couple years ago. I do know that there was a viral story that featured Kiffin at his home. And I believe that he and his then ex wife had not reconciled at that point. And I believe he was dating a young woman who was around the same age as his daughter who attended or attends.

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Still attends. And she's gonna go to lsu. I think she's leaving lsu, too.

[C]

Oh, boy.

[B]

So I did hear some prognosticator on ESPN said, if you're thinking about sending your young man to LSU to play for Lane Kiven, don't believe one word he says, because every single thing he says is a lie. He's trying to get you there so he can build a championship team. Right. I get it. But don't believe what he said. Why would you believe him? He's bounced from, you know, place to place to place. Granted, he spent six, seven years at Ole Miss. Right. That was a long time. Built a real good culture there. Have you seen him speak?

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Yes.

[B]

What is with his hand constantly jumping out?

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If you're watching me on the show, it's coach speak.

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He throws his hand out like, just. He's a weird speaker.

[C]

It's almost the emphatic, I want you to believe my sincerity kind of motion with that. And the thing is, here's why I will defend Lane in the previous regard. He ain't alone. No, all of these college coaches, especially at that level, they're all slick oil salesmen. They just are. And the thing is, there's so much money at stake. There is so much pressure associated with that type of job. Granted, you're also getting, in some cases, getting paid a lot of money to do the job.

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Just about every case, a number one paid government employee in the state of Minnesota.

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Correct.

[B]

Is our coach, P.J. fleck, making 4.8 million or whatever.

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But I guess the point I was trying to make is. So when you say that about he'll. But they all do that, and unfortunately, that's the icky part of the game. I love college football.

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Help me understand this. Go ahead. You understand this way. I'm brand new to college football this year. Literally, I got into SEC football and I realized, oh, it's something new.

[C]

It's just a different answer.

[B]

Something different. Why do they allow coaches to leave before the season's over? Why does the portal open before the final games are played? Why is any of that. Why do they do that? Why can't they just say, you can leave a school, we don't care. You can leave, you can stop coaching at a school, but you can't do it till February 3.

[C]

The timeline is completely messed up.

[B]

Why, though?

[C]

And. And there is no specific reason, but I heard an interesting interview either yesterday or the day before, I can't remember. Just basically in the wake of this Lane Kiffin snafu, basically saying, these college coaches want it this way. So help me. Bear with me. So Penn State Fired their coach a month or two ago, James Franklin, they gave him 48 million dollars to walk away. LSU followed suit, fired Brian Kelly. 54 million to walk away. Then what happens? Some of these other coaches, the Indiana coach who's currently second in the country, Kurt Signetti, they said, well, we can't lose this guy. They re upped him for $92 million.

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That's what it is.

[C]

These coaches don't want this to be fixed. They love this.

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They love it.

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Why? Because it creates inherent demand for their services. If they did it and waited until whatever. Well, these, these schools are going to say, well, we. Mike, there are two teams they're going to face off. I don't remember if it's Friday or Saturday. Tulane is going to play North Texas. Right. Two schools that have had phenomenal seasons.

[B]

Both coach, all the coaching staff has gone on both.

[C]

And both of them are fighting for that 12th spot in the newly anointed College Football Playoff. Both of those coaches have already taken other jobs.

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Think of that.

[C]

That have paid them a ton more.

[B]

Wow. Okay, that explains it that you. Thank you. Explain that for me. It's very interesting. I know the governor of Louisiana is pissed off that they paid the leaving coach $54 million. He's like, what are we doing? What are we. We'll never make that mistake again. And then they sign Lane Kiffin to a much more egregious contract potentially.

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And I think what, what changed that governor's tune is there had to have been. Because there's so much money down there with college football and there's so much talent in that. You wouldn't think it because Louisiana is not that big of a state. There is more talent. Someone said this to me or said this online. There's more talent in a 300 mile radius of Baton Baton Rouge, Louisiana than there is basically in the entire Midwest. Oh, really? Oh, it's not even close.

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And you know, LSU's a huge school for track and field, too. And so many of those track and field athletes migrate to football. So you're like, oh, you can run a 3, 8, 40. Let's hand you a ball once and see what you can do.

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Right.

[C]

Well, you know who Odell Beckham Jr. Is, right?

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I of course do.

[C]

So his father was an offensive lineman for lsu. His mom was a track star at lsu. And someone said that kid hit the genetic jackpot.

[B]

And he did.

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And he did.

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And he literally did.

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And he blew his career because he's excited trouble.

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I'm going to see what will happen. I know, Lane said, whatever you do when we are negotiating this new LSU contract, don't even tell me the number. I don't want to know the number. What I want to know is the nil money that I'm going to get. And supposedly they added 25 million bucks a year annually. Annually, for him to go out and get players. And he's stealing 10 or 12 players from Ole Miss.

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And I guess the part for me, because, you know, just because of you and your family, I've now kind of grown akin to Ole Miss. And I thought it was a cool story. And I just thought. And again, I'm different. And money changes everybody. I get all that. That's fine. But I was thinking, okay, when you're a guy like him, when you're a guy like Lane Kiffin, you have the. Okay, yeah. You can get the job at LSU and become the next guy that wins a national championship. Right. Okay.

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Which would be great.

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They've been a successful program. A bunch of. They've won a place, a bunch of national titles. And, of course, that's a big deal to you personally. Great. Or you could be the guy that has the stadium at Ole Miss named after you.

[B]

Exactly. And you're literally at ole miss for 30 or 40 years.

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And you will have streets named after you. You'll have a legacy fund named. You will be the identity of a program.

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You could potentially have children that you had with these sorority girls, go to LSU 20 years from now. Think of that. Reavers. They also, when you're still there coaching, another thing that this. And this is all from TikTok. This is all I've learned from TikTok. Another thing that I find funny is a hot yoga place that he went to every morning.

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Yeah.

[B]

They're 100% whipping him under the bus, saying he was this guy there, like, oh, we're all supposed to be in child's pose at the end. And he's doing jumping jacks in the back. Like, just not following the class at all. And just really, they're throwing them under the bus. Real hot yoga.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Never trust a guy who posts pictures on Instagram after hot yoga shirtless when you're above 25.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. And he's doing it. Granted, he's fit, but I guess if you're out there doing it, good for him. Hey, good luck, Glenn Kiffin. I hope you just fail miserably.

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[B]

You want to do that?

[C]

Well, you brought this up and I found it really interesting.

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You know, I was again on social media and I was watching some social media about Shakopee and how they allow alcohol consumption through their walking and designated social districts area between 1st and 2nd in Canterbury Park. And I thought, wait, what? So I didn't know there was any place in Minnesota. In fact, I think there's a couple of cities, but Shakopee is one of them. And I don't know if you remember this.

[C]

Mankato could be the other.

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I think maybe in Mankato just no one gives a shit and they're just doing it.

[C]

I think you nailed it. Sorry, go ahead.

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So when we had the new mayor.

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Mayor her, hashtag Front Street, Mankato new.

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Mayor, mayor her in St. Paul, I was trying to give through telepathy her the. Give her may or her the idea that we should allow West 7th street to be a walk around social district where you buy a certain cup. Right. The way it works in Shakopee is you go to one of these 12 bars and you can buy a cup for an extra 50 cents. And that cup allows you to walk out the door with it and go to a different bar. And so you can bring your Bud Light from one place to the next place and get another Bud Light. And I don't know why this idea doesn't resonate with the mayor other than the fact that I haven't told her yet.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Because it's through telepathy.

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Can I ask you, I don't recall if I asked you the origination of this, but did this stem from you seeing like the Nashville Predators Arena.

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It's stemmed, I'll tell you.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Omaha, Nebraska.

[C]

Oh, yeah, you did say that. Yes.

[B]

A little tiny area in Omaha, Nebraska that kicks the total crap out of what Minneapolis and St. Paul has.

[C]

That's right. Because we did have an extensive conversation. Because I was just in Omaha. When was that? Two months ago. Whenever that was. And I thought, downtown Omaha's kick ass.

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It's a great little town.

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It's really cool.

[B]

I don't even know if they allow people to walk around there. Right. But it fooled me, you know, it just looks really cool.

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It's cool.

[B]

And St. Paul needs something. We need something in St. Paul. Mayor her could make a huge difference if she just said, who cares? Who cares if you take your half a beer and go from borough down to casetas, down to truckyard, down to smorgas, who cares? What would it matter if that happened? Right. I just don't get it. And the Wild. What's that new stadium called? It's not Xcel Energy.

[C]

Grand Casino Arena.

[B]

Maybe Grand Casino natives could say, we'll sponsor the cups, get some advertising, make a little bit Reavers.

[C]

Tom Reeds.

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I just had the best idea.

[C]

Here we go. Okay.

[B]

Minnesota State Fair, right?

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Yeah.

[B]

One thing the Minnesota State Fair knows how to do better than anybody else is what?

[C]

Sell booze.

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Sell booze. And how do they do it? They make you use the same cup. Right. And what bars could do in St. Paul, what St. Paul could do to those bars is say, you have to use this cup. This cup costs you a dollar. And the city could sell those dumb cups just like the state fair does. So when you see somebody walking around with a. A can of beer out on the road, you say, come over here, son. I'm giving you a ticket for walking around with a can of beer. But if you buy the St. Paul.

[C]

Cup and that $1 goes towards fixing the roads and whatever.

[B]

$1 could go to Somali Frog. We don't care what it goes to. I'm just making that up. I don't want it to go to Somali Frog. It could go to anything.

[C]

Okay, remind me, you brought up shock P. What is the area? Cause is it like the depot area.

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Where it's between first and second in main social districts are downtown.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Which I didn't know there was a downtown. Shakopee.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Do they have an escalator in one of those buildings or is it just all one level?

[C]

It's probably one level.

[B]

And then between first and second and around Canterbury Park.

[C]

Shakopee and the Only reason, I mean, I live generally in that area. But the. The one. They used to host a softball tournament every year. It was almost the same weekend as is the Kentucky Derby, like early May.

[B]

First weekend of me.

[C]

First weekend of me.

[B]

Yeah. First Sunday.

[C]

Okay. That's the weekend they used to do. And I don't know if they still do this, but it was super cool. They would have. So we would go to this place and it had this cool area where it was just a couple of blocks and you just got to do exactly what you're talking about. And I remember the derby was on because Jess wanted to watch the derby and I said, well, let's walk around. It's on everywhere, right? Yeah. And I remember we were in Shakopee and it was super fun, super cool. The weather was perfect. Obviously it was the first weekend of May, but it was neat. And I remember thinking how cool downtown Shakopee is.

[B]

And this. I mean, I think this is a relatively new thing. Oh, that. I mean, maybe we were doing it. We were supposed to have done that before that, but I thought it was September of 25.

[C]

Right.

[B]

When they were. I mean, it was pretty new. It says. Yeah, 20, 25 Shakopee Social District. It actually says that. Closed October 31st. So it must be just through the summer season.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

So maybe they have it each year.

[C]

I will say this about Shockby. They are building that amphitheater that's just gonna be outside of where Canterbury park is.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

It's huge. We're talking 18, 19,000 seat amphitheater. Right. They're gonna get. They're lining up huge acts for this thing for the next summer.

[B]

That'll be fun.

[C]

It's so cool. And what I also like is. I think I've mentioned this to you before. Take the fam. There's this place called Boardwalk. It's right next to the first turn of the Canterbury Park.

[B]

It's a new place.

[C]

Racetrack, Brand new. They got live music all the time. This is a plug for them.

[B]

Why aren't they advertising on this show?

[C]

They should be, but that area is exploding. And it's because of what we've been talking about for the longest time. Places that were downtown forever. They're finding it so hard to A, A, get people to come there, but B, to just operate a business like that in Hennepin County. And mostly the city of Minneapolis, it's become damn near impossible to do.

[B]

They're going out to the suburbs.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And everybody's happy, right? Everybody. Like you leaving Minneapolis. It's Coming back, though, baby. I can feel it.

[C]

You can.

[B]

Mayor Fry's gonna turn that city around.

[C]

Oh, I was supposed to ask you a question about that. With this paid family leave act.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

That's taking place January 1st. Is that gonna be a hindrance for those that are gonna try to continue to operate?

[B]

No. I mean, I think it's gonna be an interesting thing. I really do think the team that we have at my company, we work, we're workers. No one's taking three months off. It just doesn't. And those that do, we would have already done that for them. Right. If you have a medical emergency, we're supporting people or a family.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[B]

We're doing that.

[C]

Or a family dynamic they needed.

[B]

I don't know if we did that. I haven't read our employee handbook. Right. I'm gonna tell you, I didn't write it. I haven't read it, but I think we probably did stuff like that.

[C]

It's so funny that you say that, because Joe brought this up maybe a month ago or so, like, oh, that's right. This is starting. He goes, well, blah, blah, blah. I go, joe Hubbard already does that for us.

[B]

Yeah. A lot of big companies does. The only difference is now every single employee's 1% of their wage is going to that. Yeah. So everyone's gonna make 1% less. Right. And if you're a 58 year old guy who's not gonna have kids, but doesn't mean you could, a medical illness.

[C]

Or a family member that does, or.

[B]

A family member, a brother that you're.

[C]

Taking care of, and we have the.

[B]

Compassion that we would take care of that person anyways.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Right, right.

[C]

Okay. So you and I will not have a date night in Shakopee. Is that what you're saying?

[B]

You know, after I went to the Jordan Mini Met, and I realized there was more things than Mendota Heights, a little bit of St. Paul, maybe across the river. Every once in a while, I need to get out to these cool places.

[C]

Once they start racing at Canterbury again, we are 100% taking the families to go to Boardwalk to watch a race.

[B]

I love that. I told you, the last time I was there, a horse died. Right, right, right. When it was coming down, the leg just exploded. The horse just tumbled. My daughters were bawling their eyes out. I said, honey, when men take animals and hop on their backs and pump them with stuff and make them run as fast as they possibly can, every once in a while they break their legs. And then you just. And they ran like out on the thing, put this big curtain up and they're like, I wonder how they had that ready. I'm like, Cause this occasionally happens to racehorses.

[C]

So what you're trying to tell me is the girls won't be joining us for that particular day.

[B]

Loved it. They loved it. They would go back in a heartbeat. Because you know why? They're gamblers. Those kids are gamblers. You know, I do want to get. Do you have another ad?

[C]

No, go ahead.

[B]

Okay. I do want to get to one other thing because I want to get your opinion on this. Maybe you talked to Joe about this too, on the award winning. Has it won some awards?

[C]

Award nominated.

[B]

Numerous award nominated. Not the weekly scramble. It's called the Garage Logic podcast. Yes, sir, we're the sister podcast. Have you guys talked about that boat that was coming out of Trinidad and Tobago?

[C]

It came up during Johnny Heights News and questions were asked about the ethics involved and the tactical response that followed. But go ahead. The floor is yours.

[B]

Well, from what I understand is they both bombed this boat. And then it appeared that a couple of people were remaining holding onto the side of the boat. And then we decided to finish the bombing of the boat.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Right. And I have not heard if that was a 15 second decision or they were sitting there for two hours floating in the water and we said, hey, let's go finish the deal. I don't know, like, I can see really quickly, like, hey, we didn't get the boat all the way down. You know, bomb them a little bit more. It's been 30 seconds. Maybe we noticed that there was guys maybe dangling on there. Maybe we didn't. There's some fog to that. The fog of war. If it was a couple hours later with people sitting there hanging onto the side of the boat, I have a different feeling about that. That being said, ravers, I want to hear what Joe said about that.

[C]

Joe had some questions about whether or not that's the right way to go about business. I somewhat said, well, here's the deal. If these are the people that are bringing hundreds and thousands of illegal drugs into our country that are quite literally killing our citizens.

[B]

Killing. Can I give you some killing numbers?

[C]

Please do. From overdosing.

[B]

2019. 70,630 people. 2020-9179-9202-1106,719. 2022. 107,941. 2024. Provisional. At this point, 80,400 people have overdosed from fentanyl opioid drug. Things that those Guys in that boat were bringing to the shores of America, right? Maybe, maybe, maybe.

[C]

And I mean, you would like to think that they probably had pretty good intel as to why they would choose.

[B]

They would have.

[C]

No, they aren't picking on some guy that's out there fishing.

[B]

He's not. He's in a high speed boat. Maybe not this one. They know exactly. They watch the people loaded. They were talking about the other boats that they'd done. They said we had people standing there watching them loaded. We're not naive. We're not accidentally killing innocent people.

[C]

And unfortunately, there is an ugly side to this. Yes, there's an ugly side to war. There's an ugly side to making this stop. And you know what? Honestly, if that's what it's gonna take, unfortunately, that's what it's gonna take. So I apologize. Here's a good way not to die in a boat carrying illegal drugs. Don't carry illegal drugs in a boat across the ocean, you know.

[B]

So in Vietnam, U.S. and allied military deaths were 282,000. Right. That's a lot of people died in Vietnam, in America, just in the last five years. That was 280,000 in Vietnam in the last five years from opioid deaths, 475,000.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

We went to war for years with Vietnam, lost 282,000 people. If Canada attacked us and killed 475,000.

[C]

Of us, we'd retaliate.

[B]

Canada would be gone. Every single man, woman and child in Canada would be gone. I'm not being facetious.

[C]

No, you're right.

[B]

Like if that many Americans died, what's the difference? Reivers. What I think also we forget is we talk about the deaths, right? You and I like the 100,000 deaths, totally unacceptable. But I looked up some other stats. I hate doing this to you, but I'm going to do it anyways. Do you have any idea of people 12 years of age or older, how many currently are addicted to drugs in the United States? An estimate.

[C]

Oh, God. Oh, my goodness gracious.

[B]

So you know 100,000 people died of.

[C]

Drug overdose and you're just saying the ones that are addicted, addicted to drugs.

[B]

That they said it is drug use. They have drug use disorder is what they call me.

[C]

I'm terrified to ask what that number is.

[B]

28,200,000.

[C]

Oh my God.

[B]

So these pricks, these drug dealing psychopaths that are bringing fentanyl across the border, Other drugs, opioids, all of these drugs, I can't name them all off.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They're Bringing them in. They're creating 28 million zombies in America. When you drive down the streets in Minneapolis and you see a guy bent over, standing there, bent over, not moving, that's one of those people that that drug boat was going to bring drugs to.

[C]

I do remember seeing when I was bringing my boys, it was Memorial Day weekend. We were going to try to go to the Timberwolves game. And I was watching a guy, this would have been Friday night of Memorial Day weekend, watching him argue with the card reader at the parking ramp. And my youngest goes, what's he doing? I go, I think he's very unhappy with his service charge. Yeah, let's just go this way.

[B]

Let's just stay away from him. I mean, it's ruining 28 million lives.

[C]

Yes, it is.

[B]

But it's not just them. It's everyone else has to live by them. And it's just so, so brutal. Reavers. We did a lot today.

[C]

Yes, we did.

[B]

We went a long way.

[C]

Covered a lot of ground.

[B]

If you like this stuff and you want to see what we look like because you're handsome.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

I'm old looking, right? Whatever. I got a little bit of a beard. But you can find us on YouTube.

[C]

Yes, you can, right? Yes.

[B]

And you can watch us.

[C]

Just search for the weekly Scramble Podcast.

[B]

Reavers, you are the best.

[C]

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