SCRAMBLE: NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani announced his brand new $127 Billion dollar annual budget, it was nice knowing you New York.......

Summary

Weekly Scramble: “NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s $127 Billion Budget – It Was Nice Knowing You, New York…”

Garage Logic | Gamut Podcast Network | Feb 18, 2026
Main Hosts: Chris Reavers & Mike Fratelloni

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Overview

In this episode of the Weekly Scramble, Chris Reavers and Mike Fratelloni break down the recent announcement of New York City's $127 billion budget under newly-elected Mayor Zohran Mamdani. The show spirals from the implications of massive tax hikes and spending, to broader issues of economics, taxation, political ideology, and the interplay between local and state government. The hosts use the NYC budget as a launching point to discuss welfare, corporate flight, immigration controversies, government hypocrisy, and recent local Minnesota news. The show’s conversational, sometimes sardonic tone makes the weighty themes accessible and engaging.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NYC's Record Budget and Proposed Tax Hikes

• Breaking News: Mayor Mamdani unveils a $127B preliminary city budget — an $11B jump from last year.
• Funding: Relies on raising property taxes (untouched since 9/11) and pulling $10B from the rainy day fund, risking the city’s bond rating.
• Tax-the-Rich Agenda: Emphasizes increasing taxes on “the ultra-wealthy and most profitable corporations.”
• Political Stand-off: Negotiations expected with Albany; Mayor claims structural crisis requires “bold change” (05:28).

Quote:
“After years of fiscal mismanagement, we're starting at a $5.4 billion budget gap and two paths… Albany can raise taxes on the ultra wealthy... The other, balance the budget on the backs of working people... I know where I stand. New Yorkers voted for bold change… We will deliver both.”—Chris Reavers impersonating Mayor Mamdani (05:28)

Timestamps:

• Budget news and tax hike analysis: [02:57]–[07:36]
• Mayor’s tweet read & reaction: [05:13]–[06:30]

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2. Corporate Flight and the Problem with Taxing the Wealthy

• The hosts warn that draconian tax increases will drive wealthy individuals and corporations out of NYC, echoing trends from other states like Minnesota.
• Example: Wall Street bonuses brought in “billions in tax dollars,” but the financial sector doesn’t need to be in NY anymore ([05:10]–[05:12]).
• Comparison: “Night and day” difference between living/working in taxed states vs. Florida.

Quote:
“If they increase taxes on you... you're like, well, I could go live in southwest Florida... do this exact same work... and my state income tax be $0 a month. I mean, night and day difference.” —Mike Fratelloni (06:53)

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3. Migrants and Social Spending

• Massive sums: $1.2B earmarked in the new budget for migrants (down from $3.75B in 2024; $11.1B spent between 2023–25).
• Fratelloni sarcastically suggests critics should demand Mamdani re-raise the migrant spending: “Make him have to say, well, we just don’t have the money…” ([07:46]–[08:49])

Quote:
“I want him to eat his own poison.” —Mike Fratelloni (08:41)

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4. Welfare, Voting, and Fairness in Tax Policy

• Large segment delves into philosophical questions about democracy, welfare, and who “deserves” a say in tax allocation.
• Reavers raises concerns about the cycle of expanding welfare and disincentivizing self-responsibility.
• Provocative analogy: Pizza party, where only some pay, but everyone wants a say in the toppings. ([11:48]–[12:48])
• Repeated refrain: “Everyone should pay something in taxes.” ([12:57]–[13:02])

Quote:
“Why are you the loudest voice in the town?...That's often the case, the one that's providing the least.” —Chris Reavers & Mike Fratelloni (12:48–12:51)

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5. Minnesota News: Policy Parallels and Hypocrisy

a) Minneapolis Council Withholds Hotel Liquor Licenses

• Delayed renewals for hotels housing ICE agents during “Operation Metro Surge.”
• Criticizes council overreach and potential legal exposure. ([16:59]–[19:22])

b) Walz’s $10M Forgivable Loans for Immigration-Raided Businesses

• Fratelloni reacts strongly against government loans and the difficulty of distributing relief fairly.
• Hypocrisy noted: State struggles to diagnose business losses from ICE raids but ignored years-long $9B fraud elsewhere ([21:44]–[28:48]).

Quote:
"It's odd to me that Walz could figure out how much money Minnesota lost in 30 days due to ICE activity, but couldn't figure out $9 billion were stolen year after year after year." —Listener Paul, read by Reavers (28:22)

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6. Broader Reflections: ICE, Crime, and Political Cynicism

• Fratelloni, as a Twin Cities businessman, describes community tensions during ICE activity and speaks out against aggressive federal immigration tactics.
• Deep concern over 3,364 unaccompanied minors “found” during the federal operation. (26:28–28:22)
• Personal anecdotes and distress over societal breakdown and government inconsistency are highlighted.

Timestamps:

• ICE/immigration local controversy: [16:59]–[28:22]

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7. Pam Bondi, Congress, and the Epstein Files

• Last segment pivots to national scandal: Pam Bondi releases unredacted Epstein files to Congress accompanied by search trackers.
• Some members searched exact phrases from emails, implying prior knowledge or involvement — issue of transparency, surveillance, and Congressional scandal.
• Hosts discuss how revelations undermine public trust at the highest levels. ([38:59]–[44:09])

Quote:
“Some of them were so specific… We know you’ve seen these before. We know you have, because you typed a sentence exactly what the email said. I find that totally perplexing.” —Mike Fratelloni (43:23)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On New York’s Budget:
  “This is absolute insanity, one insider told the Post.” —Chris Reavers quoting a source (03:41)

• On Jealousy and Class Resentment:
  “What's the hatred against people who win, right?” —Mike Fratelloni (10:35)

• On Political Cycles:
  “Socialism is great until you run out of everybody else's money.” —Joe Soucheray quote, via Reavers (09:53)

• On Business Exodus:
  “Cargill announced they're leaving the state of Minnesota. Cargill.” —Chris Reavers (10:07)

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Notable Segment Timestamps

• [02:57]–[07:36] — NYC budget, tax, and Wall Street exodus
• [07:46]–[09:41] — Migrant budgets; cyclical social spending debates
• [11:44]–[13:02] — Voting, welfare, and fairness analogies
• [16:59]–[19:22] — Minneapolis liquor license controversy
• [19:40]–[28:22] — Walz’s forgivable loans, ICE, and local business impact
• [26:28]–[28:22] — Missing children in Minnesota during “Operation Metro Surge”
• [38:59]–[44:09] — Unredacted Epstein files and Congressional search scandal

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Tone and Language

The hosts bounce between tongue-in-cheek sarcasm (“I want him to eat his own poison”), exasperation (“Oh my God. Or, oh, hey, hear me out. How about don't spend all that money?”), and a genuine concern for the future of cities, democracy, and the country at large. Listeners will hear a blend of local "garage logic," blue-collar common sense, and sharp criticism of big government and progressive tax policy—often punctuated with Minnesota-specific references and dry humor.

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For Listeners New & Old

This episode offers:

• A crash course in the current NYC budget controversy and why it matters nationally
• Insights into the mindset of business owners and taxpayers facing progressive policy shifts
• Comparisons between New York and Minnesota’s approaches to governance and social programs
• Candid reflection on immigration enforcement, public safety, and political accountability
• A wild-cards segment on the enduring, corrosive impact of the Epstein scandal

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If you missed a headline-grabbing week—in New York or Minnesota—this episode’s lively distillation connects the dots, airing frustrations and hopes with signature Garage Logic attitude.

Transcript

[Chris Reavers]

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[Chris Reavers]

And.

[Mike Fratelloni]

This is the Weekly Scramble, a place where we chat about life over a cold one or two. It's time to belly up to the pod with Mike Fratelloni and your host, Chris Reavers.

[Chris Reavers]

That's right, it's time for the Weekly Scramble podcast. My name is Chris Reavers. With me as always, his name is Mike Fredaloni. Hello Michael.

[Mike Fratelloni]

How you doing Reivers?

[Chris Reavers]

I'm doing good. I only preface what I wanted to start with on today's show by saying we were going to go to the great City of New York. And Michael, I would like you to pull up the New York Post right now. I believe you do not need a subscription of Trash and oh, it gets way better. See, New York elected a brand new mayor last November.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I heard about him.

[Chris Reavers]

His name is Zoran Momdani and we have a bit of breaking news here on a podcast. I get it, but a couple of hours ago, the New York Post reported that Mayor Zoran Mamdani is set to unveil his record $127 billion budget today.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Not bad.

[Chris Reavers]

Fueled by a proposed property tax hike on New Yorkers, the Post has learned the eye popping preliminary budget, which is up nearly $11 billion from the current fiscal year, will also call for the city to pull from its $10 billion rainy day fund, according to sources. This is absolute insanity, one insider told the Post. Property taxes haven't been raised. You ready?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yes.

[Chris Reavers]

Property taxes in New York City haven't been raised since 9 11.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Are you kidding?

[Chris Reavers]

That's according to the Post. The insider, who had knowledge of the budget plan for the 2027 fiscal year, also pointed to drawing down the Big Apple Savings as a major red that could hit its bond rating, which would affect the borrowing power of the city. He will officially reveal his first spending proposal Tuesday afternoon after meeting with top local officials, including City Council Speaker Julie Menon, with whom he'll have to negotiate the budget. It comes the day after Governor Kathy Hockel picked up the tab for another 1.5 billion to help bail out the city in the face of Mamdani's repeated calls to boost taxes on wealthy New Yorkers. The Democratic Socialist mayor has reportedly sounded the alarm about the city's financial health, using it as a for Albany to get on board with his tax the rich dreams Mom Donnie had put the deficit at $12 billion just three weeks ago before the administration counted massive tax revenues, mostly from Wall street bonuses, which came in 24% higher than last year.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Listen to that too. Remember that line. Just remember that that just Wall street bonuses meant billions of tax dollars into New York. Wall street doesn't need to be there anymore.

[Chris Reavers]

No, it does not. And it probably won't be.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And it probably won't be.

[Chris Reavers]

The mayor did also offer up this tweet. Before we get to our what would we call our roundtable session of destroying this complete fraud, let me try to read it as Mom Donnie, are you ready? I'm going to get my political voice.

[Mike Fratelloni]

On free Things for everybody. Everybody wants free things.

[Chris Reavers]

Today, I'm releasing the city's preliminary budget. After years of fiscal mismanagement, we're starting at a 5.4 billion budget gap and two paths. The first path, Albany can raise taxes on the ultra wealthy and the most profitable corporations and address the fiscal imbalance between our city and state. The other, which is a last resort, balance the budget on the backs of working people using the only tools at the city's disposal. The first path matches a structural crisis with a substantial and fair solution. I know where I stand. New Yorkers voted for bold change and competent leadership. We will deliver both. And we look forward to partnering with Albany to protect working New Yorkers. Oh, my God. That city is in worse trouble than we are.

[Mike Fratelloni]

No. Well, maybe if they.

[Chris Reavers]

If they impose this wealth tax.

[Mike Fratelloni]

It's already done, right? They're going to do it.

[Chris Reavers]

But. No, but the city of Albany isn't on board with this yet if they do that. Because isn't that one of the wealthiest areas of the entire state?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Albany is where the capital is. So it all has to come from the capital.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, yeah, okay. I misunderstand that part. You're right. You're right.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I'm sorry. Has to make that change. He can't control it.

[Chris Reavers]

These corporations will flee.

[Mike Fratelloni]

100%, they will. And you know, they're saying people that make over a million dollars. Well, if you make over a million dollars in New York, you maybe come home with 400,000 of it and your rent's 15 grand a month. That's a lot of money. I get. It's a lot of money. But if they increase taxes on you by another 50 grand, you're like, well, I could go live in southwest Florida, do this exact same work, and make a million dollars in southwest Florida, and have my rent be 4,000 bucks a month or 6,000 bucks a month, and my state income tax be $0 a month. I mean, night and day difference. I did think there's something interesting in reverse. I want to make them choke on it. And let me give you an example.

[Chris Reavers]

Suffer of their own consequences.

[Mike Fratelloni]

In this sense. New York Mayor Moran Zamdani Zorhan Mandami.

[Chris Reavers]

Wait, wait. I think we just.

[Mike Fratelloni]

On Dami.

[Chris Reavers]

I'm 100% calling him that.

[Mike Fratelloni]

That was just an accident.

[Chris Reavers]

But that was a brilliant accident.

[Mike Fratelloni]

He wants to spend a proposed $1.2 billion in this year's budget on migrants arriving in the Big Apple. 1.2 billion. Okay, that's a lot. But Reavers in the city spent a massive 3.75 billion on migrants in the fiscal year 2024. And between 23 and 25, it was $11.11 billion. So I want everybody to lose their ever fricking loving mind and say, how dare you only spend 1.2 billion on migrants. How dare spending 4 billion before and now you're only spending one. And make him have to say, well, we just don't have the money to do it. It's like, what do you mean? We voted for this? You have to spend it and dig it right into the ditch, have it go down the drain that much faster. Because his constituents say, I want everything free because I can't do math. So I'm going to keep bitching at this guy until he does it, and I want him to eat his own poison.

[Chris Reavers]

You know, we always talk about everything being somewhat cyclical, right? Where you'd like to think that things will turn around, whether it's here in the Twin Cities, whether it's in New York City, whether it's any other place that's kind of struggling. Just from a responsibility aspect. Right. I don't know that I have that positive feeling that you tend to always have. I don't think this is going to be cyclical because unfortunately, there's too many. Too many people that worship at this altar where I was reading something, Mike over the weekend, where basically, I think in the Twin Cities, is it something like 30 to 45% of people are on welfare, some sort of welfare program? Why would any of those people vote to have any of this change?

[Mike Fratelloni]

They wouldn't, right? I mean, we keep going back to my thing. If One guy is $500 and you take $500 from that one guy and give 400 of it to four people, 100 dol. You just bought four votes. Right. And it never goes away.

[Chris Reavers]

But the problem is, that's all great. And you know, Joe uses this line all the time. Socialism is great until you run out of everybody else's money. Where Mike Cargill announced they're leaving the state of Minnesota. Cargill.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Cargill.

[Chris Reavers]

Because they said, well, we love it here, but we can't. This doesn't make sense for us. And again, this whole notion about how we somehow need to be angry with people that make money. Well, you're not factoring in the fact that they're providing jobs. They're giving back and helping support the community in which you live in. Why has it been lost on so many of these people? I don't know.

[Mike Fratelloni]

What's the hatred against People who win, Right?

[Chris Reavers]

It's jealousy.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Jealousy.

[Chris Reavers]

It's gotta be.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Is it. What a sad. I don't want to live where I'm mad that someone else has something different. There's an old adage in Russian in Russia where they said, hey, if I gave you a million dollars and gave your neighbor a million dollars, what would you do? And the guy says, I'd go burn down my neighbor's house. It's like, wait, what? It was some adage like that. I don't care. No one's going to be happy. Right? And I think we're a little bit in that where people say, we don't care. Everyone's going to be slightly miserable. And I don't. I can't get into that mindset that doesn't like meritocracy. Right. If you're the best guy, if you're the best doctor, you get paid the most. If you're the best garbage man, you get paid the most. How do you say you're the best recipient of government funds? Right. There's no meritorious factor for that. How are you excited to be the best? And if 51% of the population, I mean, reivers, there was a time if you didn't own property, you didn't get to vote.

[Chris Reavers]

Right?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Right. Okay, maybe I don't believe in that, but let me ask you this.

[Chris Reavers]

If you don't have skin in the game, if you don't have skin in.

[Mike Fratelloni]

The game, if over 50% of people in Minnesota don't pay taxes, federal or state taxes, they don't have to pay taxes. They're below the threshold. I'm not saying they shouldn't vote, but why do they get to pick what the tax dollars are used for if it's not their tax dollars? Is that incongruent? Is that. Am I totally off base questioning that? I'm not saying I don't want them to vote. I want to be clear on that. But there's something to be said, like if you don't. If you're not putting. Okay, let me give you an example. Your four friends come over. You want to order two large pizzas, right? You want to order two large pizzas. And I say, hey, I'm putting my $10 in. And my other two buddies said, I'm each putting 10 bucks in. And the fourth buddy says, I'm not putting anything in. And then he says, I want a cheese, I want a pepperoni. It's like, well, we don't give a shit what you want.

[Chris Reavers]

Right?

[Mike Fratelloni]

You're not Paying for it. We'll get you what. If there's anything left over, we'll give it to you. But we get to pick because we're the one paying for the pizza. Why do you get to pay? Why are you the loudest voice of the town?

[Chris Reavers]

And that's often the case, the one that's providing the least.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And I don't. Again, I'm not saying people who don't have to pay taxes.

[Chris Reavers]

Everyone knows what you're saying.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Everyone knows what I'm saying. That's why I think everybody should have to pay something in taxes. Something.

[Chris Reavers]

You were right, by the way, because he did also. Now I'm just going off of things that he had mentioned on his own social media account where he did. He's basically giving Governor Hockel and the Capitol. Basically, he's giving them an ultimatum. Either you approve this tax increase on wealthy incorporations, or the city's gonna have to do it to their residents. And I just think, oh, my God. Or, oh, hey, hear me out. I got an idea. How about don't spend all that money?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Or if I were Albany, I'd say, suck it. Go ahead, drive them out. We're not gonna do it for you across the state. You go do it in your city. So everybody in your city says, who should we blame? Should we blame Governor Huckle or blame him?

[Chris Reavers]

But do you think she will? Because I think she'll fall in line.

[Mike Fratelloni]

No, I don't think she's gonna do it.

[Chris Reavers]

You don't think so?

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[Mike Fratelloni]

Why would you let him do it? She wants to be something different. She wants to run for Senate. She wants to be a senator. She doesn't want to be a crummy governor of the state of New York.

[Chris Reavers]

Somewhat unrelated, but also kind of somewhat in line. Again, I'm just reading the things that are attached to this particular story breaking because New York City and the east coast got slammed with a pretty decent snowstorm, like, a ago or so roughly. And so it got warm out. Like, it's been so nice out here the last couple of days. And these giant, you know, because they have to just basically pile up all this snow. So all these snow piles that were there a week ago are now basically all melted. And guess what? New York City residents are furious as giant snow piles melt, revealing that the streets are filled with feces. I've lived in this city my whole life, and I have never seen any bleep just like this boy. As the caption reads, Mom, Donnie is giving Gavin Newsom a run for his Money. I mean, it's just. It's so sad to see what's happening. It really is.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Do you have to make them eat it? Do you have to make them take their poison or eat their medicine and say, oh, see, look what you've done. You've destroyed this town. Now we have to rebuild it?

[Chris Reavers]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

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[Chris Reavers]

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So you asked me a question and you said, should we just let them see and suffer from this? And I Said Mike. They won't. And here's why. Are you ready? I'm gonna head on over to Alpha News. Okay. The Minneapolis City Council. You're familiar with them, right? Well, they're gonna vote today. Or they did vote today, I should say. I don't know what the outcome was of it, but. The Minneapolis City Council voted today on whether to approve liquor licenses for two hotels that reportedly housed ICE agents during Operation Metro Surge.

[Mike Fratelloni]

You've got to be kidding me.

[Chris Reavers]

The council previously delayed reapproval of those licenses. Two weeks ago, on February 3rd, council members sent a slate of liquor licenses onto the next stage of approval. However, two of these liquor licenses were pulled out of a group and scheduled for a later vote. Those two licenses belong to Canopy by Hilton and the Depot. At that council meeting, the Minneapolis City attorney said the city found that the hotels in question comply with all applicable liquor licensing laws and ordinances and regulations, and therefore they are eligible to have their license renewed. Despite this, council members moved to delay the liquor licenses for both hotels. In short, council members claimed that ICE agents had stayed at those hotels and that ICE agents are known to use hotel bars to get drunk and engage in illegal behavior. That's all. Allegedly. So basically, they pulled their licenses because they had the audacity to offer housing for ICE agents.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I am not trying to throw either of those hotels under the bus, but was one of them the Renaissance Depot? Is that what it says?

[Chris Reavers]

Yes, downtown.

[Mike Fratelloni]

The Depot in Minneapolis. If you know anything about the depot, they host more charity events than any other hotel in the Twin Cities. Right. Beautiful setup. In fact, I was just there for one the other day earlier during the surge. Operation Twin City Surge. Right. And they have a liquor license. Whether you agree with people being here or not, you can't penalize the hotel that says, oh, I didn't know that you were ice. I had no idea. You're getting rooms. We have rooms. I can't do anything about that. If they penalize them and hold back liquor licenses from them, I would sue the city to the ground. You cannot do that. You cannot do that because you're pissed at a hotel. It doesn't make sense.

[Chris Reavers]

Example number two.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Please, God, tell me they're not doing something more moronic.

[Chris Reavers]

This is from the Minnesota reformer Governor Tim Walz. You're familiar with Governor Tim Walls? I've heard of him. Governor Tim Walz proposed and I hate to do this to you. You know I love you and I really hate to do this to you because I know exactly what this is gonna do.

[Mike Fratelloni]

To you, I'm gonna try not to swear.

[Chris Reavers]

Governor Tim Walz proposed $10 million in forgivable loans for Minnesota businesses affected by the surge in federal immigration activity. Starting back in December. The incursion of around 3,000 federal immigration agents in Minnesota in what the Trump administration called OPER surge led to revenue losses for businesses, especially those in major immigrant corridors, as employees and customers stayed home out of fear of being detained by federal immigration agents. The one time forgivable loan proposal was announced Thursday at a Capitol press briefing moments after US Border czar Tom Holman announced the end of the surge and claimed success in making the Twin Cities and Minnesota safer. The unprecedented federal incursion ignited massive resistance and resulted in two civilians being shot and killed. The damage from Operation Metro surge is still being assessed. Walz said. Minneapolis businesses are estimated to have lost between 10 and $20 million a week in sales. The Star Tribune previously reported the relief package would apply to businesses that can demonstrate substantial revenue loss tied to the surge. With revenues between $200,000 and $4 million annually. The loans would be between 2,500 do with an opportunity to apply for 50% forgiveness after a year.

[Mike Fratelloni]

So it's a loan, not a grant.

[Chris Reavers]

Correct.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Okay. This is obviously going to be very, very difficult to prove if your company was one that had to shut down. Every restaurant in the Twin Cities could say, I want a part of this. Right. But it's 50% forgiven potentially. Right.

[Chris Reavers]

And.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And I don't think the federal government, state government should get involved in this because how do you pass this out in a fair and equitable way?

[Chris Reavers]

And I'm sure that not one bit of fraud will take place with any of this either.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Honest to God reivers. I think it was incredibly damaging to business in Minnesota.

[Chris Reavers]

Sure.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Right. The federal government came in and you.

[Chris Reavers]

Would know that better than anyone.

[Mike Fratelloni]

100%. Right. And going to restaurants. I was trying to support as many restaurants in Minneapolis as I could during that time because I was like, I don't want them all gone. And literally people were saying that restaurant business was worse than Covid because no one was coming in, their staff wasn't showing up. And it was a big, big problem. I do not like this. I do see that they had another program that if your job was closed or you spent time protesting, you could file and get a grant from the city to get money for that. And I thought, okay, timeout. What are we doing? None of this had to happen. None of this had to happen. You believe me on that, right? We didn't have to have federal ICE agents come here.

[Chris Reavers]

Sure.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Right. I would have preferred that they didn't. And we didn't have to have any of this happen in the way it did. I'm so careful with what I'm saying.

[Chris Reavers]

Here's how I'd like to respond to the governor and to those that are probably going to have the same reaction to this that I have. So let me see if I get this straight or got this straight. My English is not very good right now. My brain's fried. So let me see if I understand you correctly, Governor Walz. You and your cronies were the ones who had not one, but two different walkouts and made businesses close their doors in solidarity to show your support for your brothers and sisters in the city of Minneapolis and say ICE out. There were two different ones on Fridays. Remember that?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yep. Trust me, I do.

[Chris Reavers]

And those businesses that decided to remain open but still show support were vilified. They were ripped apart on social media. They were harassed and intimidated in person. I saw tons of videos, so do not email me. And now, because of all that, you're saying, well, we need to give them some money and walls. Your administration is the same one that during COVID forced these places to shut down. Many of them didn't ever reopen.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Well, Reivers, I am a businessman in the Twin Cities.

[Chris Reavers]

I'm aware.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I received numerous calls that people were mad that we didn't close on Friday. Right. And there's no answer that I have back for that. I wanted to say I don't want federal agents running through our town. I don't think they should be here. I think. I don't like masked federal agents grabbing people out of cars. I don't like that. I'm against ice, Right. I'm against the concept of the federal government rolling through my beautiful town and randomly grabbing people. I'm against that. I couldn't say that to him. I couldn't be part of that. I had to, like, keep my mouth shut and say, we're here to serve the community, the entire community. We don't ask people what.

[Chris Reavers]

Who you voted for.

[Mike Fratelloni]

We don't ask them. We don't do that. And I wanted to say I'm on your side. I'm on your side. Why are you screaming at me? And when I say screaming, screaming at me, I'm like, oh, I want to be as agnostic on this as I possibly can. And people got pissed.

[Chris Reavers]

So it's almost as if they don't make any sense. They're kind of talking out of both sides of their mouth.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Well, to be fair to them, I couldn't say to them, I couldn't say. I didn't want to say, go listen to my podcast.

[Chris Reavers]

Right.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I couldn't say, oh, that have been.

[Chris Reavers]

A great marketing tool for us.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I don't believe that masked federal agents should go into any town. Right. That there's a separation. The federal government shouldn't be doing that in states. We should take care of ourselves. We weren't taking care of ourselves. That's a totally different concept. Right. We weren't doing the basics of capturing illegal immigrants that were breaking the law and giving them to the deportation service and getting them out of there. Right. We weren't doing those basics. We are now, but we weren't doing them then. And I couldn't get that deep in that conversation. But we had people haranguing our staff. Why aren't you closed? Well, if we were closed, you wouldn't be able to buy that Benjamin Moore paint you're buying right now. It's Friday and you know, you should be closed for the entire time they're here. It's like, do you want every single business in the state of Minnesota gone? Like, what are we doing?

[Chris Reavers]

That's the dots that are never gonna be connected by people that think this way.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I had a really hard time with this because I wanted to come out and say I'm against ice. I'm not against the theory of ice. Right. I'm against masked guys running through town grabbing people out of cars. Federal government, masked guys I just don't like. Doesn't make sense to me. That is a slope. That is not slippery. That is a slope. When you allow it to happen, you fall off the edge. And now everyone has to see my papers when I walk down the road. I don't like that one thing that I know you want to get to an ad, but this is very important.

[Chris Reavers]

No, keep going. Because I got to read you something else too.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I don't know if this is true, but federal immigration officials announced that during operation Metro surge, 3,364 missing unaccompanied minor children were located in Minnesota. If that number is a third true, if it was a thousand kids, that is unbelievable. Could you imagine reivers? You have young kids. Could you imagine that 3,364 of them were in Minnesota with someone that they could not prove was a family member, a friend? They could have been sold into sex market. They're in a dangerous and precarious spot. Are they better off in ICE custody. I don't know that. I don't know that. And I'm sure some of them were with their aunt that was their mom's best friend. And they came up here and they were fine, but not all 3,364. There's a bar in St. Paul that I went to 30 years ago, right? And I was with a good buddy of mine who was a Mexican immigrant here illegally went into this Mexican bar, and it was a Mexican, Mexican bar in St. Paul, right? And I said, hey, you know, is it cool I'm in here? And he was like, oh, my God, you're with me. And when he said that, I thought, oh, you're kind of an a hole. So I don't necessarily think I should be with you. But I remember young, young kids were in that bar. Young girls that were dressed salaciously were walking around serving drinks. And I was like, what the hell is going on? Like, how is this happening in my St. Paul, right? How is this happening? And then I think to myself, were they part of the 3,364 from a long time ago? Were they unaccompanied minors that needed here? And someone said, you now work in this restaurant. You're serving beer, you look 14 years old. It's like, oh, that is a. That is a really. If that's a true number, thank God that they found those children.

[Chris Reavers]

And I used this line earlier, but it's worth repeating because Paul posted this on the Frat Pack 5000 Facebook fan page that you so brilliantly created a number of months ago. It's odd to me that Walz could figure out how much money Minnesota lost in 30 days due to ice activity, but couldn't figure out $9 billion were stolen year after year after year. Spot on, Paul.

[Mike Fratelloni]

That's an incredible point. But I do think businesses were absolutely adversely affected.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, no one's denying that. It's just the hypocrisy is what gets me every time.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And a government loan doesn't make you really stronger as a business. But what we do is we need to get down to Eat street and we need to get down to Minneapolis and you need to go to your favorite restaurants. And just like we did in Covid. Just like we did in Covid, buy some gift cards, tip your staff well, you know, get out and be seen and show them that restaurants can win in the state.

[Chris Reavers]

You know what drives me, drives me nuts. And we are nuts. And we are nutsmn.com. you see that transition there, Michael? I am a broadcast professional. We Are Nuts has been a wonderful addition to the weekly scramble podcast. And it's a wonderful family owned. And you know what? I had not one, but two jars of the original toffee peanuts over the weekend. In fact, here's what I did. I had a little bit of the leftover cherry mix because I had basically picked through all the cashews. So I dumped a jar of the original toffee peanuts into the cherry mix. That was, you know, because it was like maybe a third left and then you shake it up and oh my God, it was so good.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Let's put a little milk in there, like a little cereal mix.

[Chris Reavers]

I should probably do that next time. That's brilliant, Michael. You know what?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Okay, wait. Should they come out with nut based cereals? Oh, like We Are Nuts cereal.

[Chris Reavers]

Like a protein style breakfast cereal. I love that.

[Mike Fratelloni]

No, that's not a bad. That's not a bad. You know they have a lot of product lines, right? Fratolone's carries the candies because they have candy and we carry the popcorn and all the nuts. But I wonder if they could come out with a nut based cereal.

[Chris Reavers]

That's a brilliant idea.

[Mike Fratelloni]

If someone's gonna do it, they'd do it really well.

[Chris Reavers]

And they would. You're absolutely right. And you could see all of their products [e-mail] but as Mike just mentioned, you can see their line at Fratelloni's hardware and garden stores, Mac's Hardware, County Market, Cub Foods, Kowalski's Markets, Lunds and Byerly's. Coburn's is now carrying the We Are Nuts brand In addition to 700 different quick trip locations. It's the best hand batch snacks made right here in the great state of Minnesota. Please place your order today and let them know that you heard about them on the weekly scramble podcast. And we will be right back. All right, I'm a little bummed out. And you're gonna ask why?

[Mike Fratelloni]

And I'm gonna say, chris, why are you bummed out?

[Chris Reavers]

Well, spring training is starting, Michael, and you're seeing all the wonderful shots down in Fort Myer. You're not really a spring training guy.

[Mike Fratelloni]

You know, I've been down there.

[Chris Reavers]

But you love Florida.

[Mike Fratelloni]

The sun is also trying to kill me. So when I go to a game in the sun of Florida, I feel like the rays saying, give Mike skin cancer.

[Chris Reavers]

I will say this too. One of the worst sunburns I've ever had in my life is me and two of my buddies. There was like four of us couples that went down to Florida, my buddy works for a company that owns a house down in the Orlando area. And so four of us, the four dudes, because the girls wanted to have a beach day. So the four of us dudes said, well, let's drive to Fort Myers. It's like, what, three hours from there, wherever we were staying. And so we were gonna make a day of it. We were gonna get up early, we're gonna drive down, go to the Twins game, have some beers, and then basically head back to the. Head back to the house. And of course you're having a couple pops. It's early March, and all of a sudden I'm saying, I don't feel very good. And I looked down and I said, I need to get out of the sun immediately. And both me and my buddy Matt, I mean, he. Because I finally said after a couple hours, like, I got to get out of the sun. And he decided, ah, I'm gonna. And he had his shirt off and he blistered so bad. Because you're having a couple cold ones and it's just. Oh, it was so.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And you've been pacing your chest hasn' seen the sun in seven months easily in Minnesota. You get down there and you're like, it's totally fine. I can do it. And you. The only guy who can do that. The only guy can do that is one Patrick James. Steven. Roy.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Fratelloni]

When he had his shirt off.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh my God.

[Mike Fratelloni]

In that stadium down in Fort Myers, just sitting. I think he had jeans on too.

[Chris Reavers]

Yes.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Like long pants.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, he. He was with Chip sc. As he says, hey, Chip, let's break the Internet today. So he took his shirt off in the stand and he did it and.

[Mike Fratelloni]

He did and he did it. But I. I recall him looking kind of. Of swarthy, like he had. What's his ethnicity? What is. What is Roy?

[Chris Reavers]

See, that's a great question.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Is he like. Because he looked Grecian, because he had. Because he always has dark skin, he always kind of looks down. Maybe just.

[Chris Reavers]

I believe he does have Greece descent.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Okay. Because Grecian descent.

[Chris Reavers]

I think so. Anyway, I'll ask him next time because we need to know more about him, but I'll go. The woe for the Minnesota Twins yet again in 2026. Who needs Tommy John? The ace pitcher, Pablo Lopez. Are you kidding me? I am not kidding you. I was making a joke. They quite literally opened camp yesterday. So one of the cool things is this weekend with my boys. My 14 year old is just obsessed with Sports now and players and this and that. And he loves baseball. And we're starting to get into baseball now because they've started to practice for their upcoming season in addition to kind of winding down the basketball season. And so we were just talking about this and that and we had some windshield time. And so he was asking, well, dad, how are the Twins going to do this year? He's like, are they going to stink again like last year? I said, well, they've got some good young talent. I said, but the thing that's going to be good about the Twins this year, buddy, is their starting pitchings should be pretty good.

[Mike Fratelloni]

It's going to be spot on because we have. Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

And so the report, because I didn't work yesterday, and so the report came out on social media that Pablo Lopez had felt some discomfort in his throwing elbow, which that's never a good sign when it's the very first day of spring training.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Did he not throw yesterday or two months ago or two weeks ago?

[Chris Reavers]

That's exactly what Joe said earlier. Did he not. Did you just pick up a baseball?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Did he just say, I've been playing golf all this time, now I play baseball?

[Chris Reavers]

Here's the prediction I made earlier and I will do it again. It actually isn't that far off.

[Mike Fratelloni]

That wasn't bad.

[Chris Reavers]

That wasn't bad because this year, every three years they do this thing that's called the World Baseball Classic. It's almost like an Olympics style Dominican or.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Where is it?

[Chris Reavers]

It's in several places I know they usually play in. I think it's Miami. They play in San Diego and. Yeah, they play in a couple of Puerto Rico. Yeah, they play in a couple of different countries because there's these pools or pods. So like we're, I believe with Mexico and Canada, there's a lot of studs in that. Yeah. And so there's all these players that are representing their countries. I think it's kind of cool. But I have a feeling because all these guys showed up early to get themselves ready to go and play, and Pablo was going to be one of them to pitch for Venezuela. I have a feeling this will be the very last ever World Baseball Classic because they've been doing it for a couple of years now.

[Mike Fratelloni]

So he's a great event. How much was Pablo worth? Like, what did we pay him?

[Chris Reavers]

A lot. He was going to make $21 million.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Okay. Is that a lot for pitcher medium or is that.

[Chris Reavers]

That's.

[Mike Fratelloni]

That's a good pitcher.

[Chris Reavers]

I would say he's in the 2 3rd range. Right. He's not at the top. He's in the top, but he's in that next tier. Right? He's in that next tier.

[Mike Fratelloni]

So, okay, the. The top 33%. So. So we were counting on a closer or starter.

[Chris Reavers]

Starting number one starting pitcher.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Number one starting pitcher. So he was going to bring us, you think, 15 wins?

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, if. And he has some injuries previously, but yeah, if he's healthy, he's. Yeah, he's easily a 200 innings, 15 win guy. For sure.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Okay, what is it going to need? Tommy Johns? Do they know anything?

[Chris Reavers]

Well, he's getting evaluated, but we all know that he's going to.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Are you kidding me?

[Chris Reavers]

I'm not kidding.

[Mike Fratelloni]

That is just. That is just brutal. And I feel bad for the poet.

[Chris Reavers]

Right.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Let me tell you why. I know you've never felt bad for the pole ads in your life, but you're just like, one time we're gonna have a 500 ball club. We got one stud on our team, a couple of guys who can hit one guy, if he's not suffering from bilateral leg weakness, he can sprint real quick. And then boom, 21 or 21 million bucks in the trash can.

[Chris Reavers]

You know, it did remind me though, because I think I was. Oh, I was watching Fox 9 this morning and they were doing the live, you know, hey, it was Jim Rich and he was doing his live report from Fort Myers. He was kind of doing the somber thing, like, well, there's kind of a dark cloud hanging over the Twins clubhouse today. Pablo Wolfez, blah, blah, blah. But it did remind me of. And Joe and Pat mention this all the time, but you remember Jeff Passhold, right?

[Mike Fratelloni]

I sure do.

[Chris Reavers]

Former Fox 9 anchor. And his bit was when he would cover spring training. So he was the 6 o' clock anchor for Fox 9. A 6 and 10 o' clock anchor. So he would do his reports and he would do. He would bring four shirts with him.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Okay.

[Chris Reavers]

And he would do, okay, the stand up shot. We're gonna stand in this corner. It's, you know, seven in the morning. We're gonna do this corner here and then we're gonna interview Ron Garden hire and then we're gonna interview. Whatever.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Okay.

[Chris Reavers]

Change his shirt. He would do another one and then.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Be done in it.

[Chris Reavers]

And then he'd be done for the rest of the day. That was brilliant.

[Mike Fratelloni]

That was pretty smart. Like he was just gonna go golfing.

[Chris Reavers]

The whole rest of the day.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Not a bad thing. I feel bad that Royce doesn't have a house down there anymore.

[Chris Reavers]

You do. How about me.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I know, because you guys could have probably used that. Did you ever use his house?

[Chris Reavers]

I still am mad at him because Rookie. Rookie did a couple of times. It never, like, lined up because the problem is, the only time I would ever be able to go is during spring break.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

And that was. It was already claimed then.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Although you let Rookie use your house, you come in toilet seats up, you know.

[Chris Reavers]

You know, in fact, he.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Rookie takes care of it.

[Chris Reavers]

Royce said that it was in better condition than when he. Than when Rookie got there.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I believe that the fan.

[Chris Reavers]

The fan would clean up and do.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I was trying to make a joke, but I believe that about.

[Chris Reavers]

But I'm still mad because I said. Because Pat didn't want anymore. I said, pat, I will buy it from you. Sure. At the. You know, because I knew I get the Royce discount. He's like, ah, you don't want. I go, no, no, no. I do.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Trust me.

[Mike Fratelloni]

It's maybe smart. You didn't.

[Chris Reavers]

Probably.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yeah. You know, I was at the airport the other day picking up someone from the airport. The terminal two. Right. Nice terminal. It's totally fine. It was a little weird to get in and out of, but it was easy. And you hear rookies. Void voice.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh.

[Mike Fratelloni]

On the intercom. No parking in the blue zone.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Mike Fratelloni]

You know, but he doesn't do any of, like, he doesn't do any Spanish or Jewish. Your attention, please. Yes. That's it. I was like, oh, that's pretty good. So I don't know how he weaseled him. I wonder if he got, like, seg pricing for that. Like, does he get money for that?

[Chris Reavers]

He's America's guest.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yeah, I mean, he. He is pretty good at that. Did you. I know we got to go, but I wanted to really quickly bring up the story of Pam Bondi and Congress.

[Chris Reavers]

I'm so sorry. I forgot about that.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I think it's such an interesting story. So if you don't haven't heard this story.

[Chris Reavers]

So.

[Mike Fratelloni]

So Pam Bondi released the Epstein files unredacted to all of Congress. And they didn't release them and say, here's a copy. Go ahead and take it on your computer. They gave them this computer, for lack of a better term, this area to come to, and then they could go look through the Epstein files digitally and then get what information they needed and leave. And then it all comes out that Pam Bondi put a search history tracker on everyone's individual logins reverse. So she said, Congress, House, and the Senate. You're welcome to come search the Unredacted files of the Epstein files. Unredacted documents in the Epstein files. But we're not going to tell you that we know what you're searching. And so congressmen lost their minds. They lost their minds. And I think there's some logic to it, right? I'm a congressman. The first thing I'd search for is Mike Fraterlonian. Did I make it into the Epstein files? Right? Hopefully not. I've never met him. Whatever. I just would want to see if my name was there. But then, like Congressperson Jamiah Paul, she had some very specific people search words, not just people. They put up a piece of paper. They didn't post this anywhere. But Pam Bonney was reading from the opposite side. And on the other side of the piece of paper, it says Jamiah Paul. Paul. Pramala's search history. I think it's Pramaya Jayapal. I think her last name. I thought her last name was Jayapal, but it shows the search history. And one of the first things she writes, she types in was, new Brazilian just arrived, sexy and cute, 19 years old. So she searched reverse. Let me say this. She wrote the words, new Brazilian just arrived, sexy and cute, 19 years old. How did she know to search the words new Brazilian just arrived, sexy and cute, 19 years old? So somehow someone said to her, jamiah Paul, will you do me a favor? Search these keywords and see what comes up in the Epstein files. And she has a handful of those where they're very unique things, very unique searches, that only if she was trying to protect somebody or if someone was afraid, that they say, oh, I have an email from Epstein that said, hey, I got a new Brazilian just arrived, sexy and cute. And that I want to see if I'm in this file. So it just begs to make someone question. Honest to God, reverse. I think this could be the downfall of our country. Epstein files.

[Chris Reavers]

I kind of made the decision with this entire story that I want to know less, you know what I mean? Because I'm terrified. I've read. I've already read too much, you know what I mean? And again, I know it's a massive, massive story, but I almost don't want to know what's going on in there because I already look so poorly upon civilization as it is. I don't think that that's going to help my cause.

[Mike Fratelloni]

We lose complete faith in our leaders.

[Chris Reavers]

I'm already there, bro. Yeah.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I mean, but what if. What if 51% say, you know what? These people are not good people.

[Chris Reavers]

No, they're not.

[Mike Fratelloni]

These people are potential. Potential child rapists when you look at. So if I'm understanding this right, in 2008, Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of some kind of child abuse. Right. I think it was a lesser thing. And it was. It was not.

[Chris Reavers]

It wasn't nearly what we have discovered in the end, it could have been, yes.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And they said he could have gone away for the rest of his life, and it didn't. Nothing like that happened. Right, right. And people, days later, Days later were sending him, saying, I have to set you up with a gal I just met. Which is it? The Duchess of York, Fergie. She was asking him for money, sending him, you know, sending him things, saying, I got a girl you're gonna just love. It's like, are you shitting me? This? I don't know of any of my buddies being convicted of sexual crimes against children. I don't know of that. I can promise you.

[Chris Reavers]

If I knew that, if I did.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I'm not sending them emails, I would.

[Chris Reavers]

Never talk to that person again.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I would pray for them. I might do some things to give money to child protective services or something like that on behalf of them or something. I don't know what I do, but I'm not gonna send them things. Emails that have my name on it that say, hey, I have a girl for you to meet shortly after. You were just convicted of some kind of child endangerment or crime. I just don't get it. But what an interesting thing. People hate Pam Bondi. People really hate Pam Bondi. But when she. Her last laugh is, I get to see everything you typed in that you wanted to search for. And some of them were so specific. We know you've seen these before. We know you have, because you typed a sentence exactly what the email said. I find that totally, totally perplexing. You know what else I find? Reavers.

[Chris Reavers]

What's that, Michael?

[Mike Fratelloni]

I don't know if you heard about the guy that evaporated.

[Chris Reavers]

No.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yeah. He will be missed. Oh, forget that was stupid. That was so stupid. Reapers, you are the best.

[Chris Reavers]

Please do us a favor and rate and review the show wherever you happen to be listening to the weekly Scramble podcast. It helps others find the show and it helps us out as well. And we appreciate each and every single one of you. His name is Mike Fretaloni. My name is Chris Reivers. Thank you so much for listening to the weekly Scramble podcast. We'll talk to you again next time. Until. Until then, cheers.

[Mike Fratelloni]

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