SCRAMBLE: Reuvers and Frattallone at the North American Banking Company Minnestoa Golf Show Show

Summary

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Garage Logic: SCRAMBLE — Reuvers and Frattallone at the North American Banking Company Minnesota Golf Show

Date: February 14, 2026
Hosts: Chris Reivers & Mike Frattallone
Location: Live at the North American Banking Company Minnesota Golf Show
Podcast Network: Gamut Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This episode of Garage Logic’s “Weekly Scramble” sets up shop at the Minnesota Golf Show, with hosts Chris Reivers and Mike Frattallone chatting live amid the buzz of the event. Their conversation meanders through golf culture, Minnesota winter traditions, the costs (and quirks) of hobbies, Super Bowl-V-Day conflicts, nostalgic takes on sports, civic pride, and the lighter side of Americana. Sprinkled with warm camaraderie, local quips, and Mike’s signature dad joke, it’s quintessential GL: part slice-of-life, part spirited commentary, and all in good fun.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Golf Show Traditions and Minnesota Winters

• Origins & Nostalgia:
  Chris and Mike reminisce about past golf shows, how Tom Bernard once guested, and why the event’s timing “marks the end of winter.”

  "This event is so much fun... it reminds you that we're not that far away from it actually being [spring]." —Chris Reivers (03:04)

• Weather & Mindset:
  They joke about Minnesotans’ eagerness for mild weather:

  "We're so just destined to be goofy when it gets warm here. You know, it's not 71... and it's 41." —Mike Frattallone (03:36)

2. Golf Habits, Data Obsession & The Cost of Hobbies

• Johnny Randle’s Golfing Habits:
  The former Viking star plays “four to five rounds a week.” Mike compares his past peak (75 rounds in a year) and current lower tally.

• Golf Spreadsheets:
  Mike confesses to nerding out over detailed golf records.

  "I keep track of every round I play, every hole I play, what I shoot, everything. I keep it on a spreadsheet." —Mike Frattallone (04:55)
  "...If I shot poorly, I had more swings in, which lowered my cost per swing down a little bit." (05:38)

• Golf with Kids:
  Chris hesitates to fully introduce his sons to golf, fearing they’ll abandon baseball and, humorously, that their differing left/right swings will ruin their forms.

3. Youth Sports: Baseball, Wrestling, and More

• Kids Switching Sports:
  They riff on the exodus from baseball toward golf and lacrosse, debating which sports are “better” and why baseball is losing traction (“hitting a baseball is hard!”).

• Parental Dilemmas:
  Mike tells of his daughter’s short-lived hockey ambitions—and why he nixed them (“I don’t want to just sit in a frozen ice arena...” 08:15).

• Wrestling Anecdotes & Social Commentary:
  Chris details the grueling realities of weekend wrestling tournaments; Mike brings up complexities in gender-integrated wrestling competitions.

• Remarkable Individuals:
  Mike shares an inspiring story about a classmate with one arm and no legs excelling on the wrestling mat, underscoring the spirit of adaptation and determination (11:08).

4. Nostalgia & Local Color: Snacks, Sponsorships, and Events

• “We Are Nuts” Snack Plug:
  Discussion of the popular toffee peanuts and why they’d be perfect for golf shows, adjusting humorously to ad reads and local store shout-outs (12:25).

• Super Bowl and Valentine’s Day Conflict:
  The 2027 Super Bowl falls on Valentine’s Day, sparking strategy talk:

  "So the conversation was, okay, what do you do? ...What happens if your favorite team goes to the Superbowl and it's on Valentine’s Day?" —Chris Reivers (16:18)
  "You just turn it into the romantic getaway weekend... Excuse me for a couple of hours while I go to the game.” —Chris Reivers (16:26)

5. Super Bowl Ads & Shifting Media Trends

• Decreasing Super Bowl Ad Impact:
  Chris notes less buzz for recent Super Bowl ads, contrasting the devoted podcast audience with traditional TV reach.

  "How many different companies are still gonna say it's worth spending $10 million for 30 seconds of airtime?" —Chris Reivers (18:13)

• Classic Ad Memories:
  They recall the moving 9/11 Budweiser Clydesdale commercial, illustrating how some ads transcend marketing (“makes you cry,” 19:31).

6. Patriotism, Civic Mood & Social Fragmentation

• America at 250 Years:
  With the country’s 250th birthday looming, they muse about waning patriotic celebrations amid polarization (20:05).

• Minnesota’s “Feel” Post-COVID & Crime Concerns:
  Chris expresses the altered vibe in Minneapolis, hypothesizing about what it would take to restore civic pride and vibrancy (22:45, 30:22).

• Golf Show as Community Gathering:
  They point to the event as proof people still gather for fun—boat show attendance, urban recovery, and why it’s “a good time to come back” to Minneapolis (23:17).

7. Golf Carts: Symbol of Leisure & Minnesota Life

• Golf Carts Beyond Golf:
  Mike and Chris joke about the booming golf cart trend—now ubiquitous in camping, neighborhoods, grocery trips—even if neither “needs” one.

  "Both of my brothers, who I don't think have ever picked up a golf club in the last 15 years, both own golf carts. In fact, my younger brother has two of them." —Chris Reivers (26:53)

• Motorized Cooler Escapades:
  Chris’s story of a friend whose cooler can be ridden like a scooter blends comedy and Midwestern inventiveness.

  "You're sitting on a cooler... and then you stop and like, do you need one?" —Chris Reivers (29:03)

8. Minneapolis Issues: Safety, Fraud & Somalian Community Engagement

• Policing, Public Safety & Hope for Forward Progress:
  Discussion of ICE operations and their potential to restore “normal” urban life, with hope for people to feel safe returning downtown (30:22).

• Community Voices:
  Mike teases future episodes exploring the Somali perspective, aiming for more nuanced conversations around recent events (30:49).

9. Signature Weekly Scramble Bit: Mike’s Dad Joke

• Octopus Joke [31:06]:

  "What do you call two octopuses that look alike? Tentacles." —Mike Frattallone (31:18)
  The crowd groans, tradition is honored.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Golf’s Appeal Amid Winter:
  “It's like, okay, we're almost there. We're almost there. Pretty soon, spring training is going to start.” —Chris Reivers (03:05)

• On Justifying Golf Expenses:
  “If I shot poorly, I had more swings in, which lowered my cost per swing down a little bit.” —Mike Frattallone (05:38)

• On Shifting Kids from Baseball:
  “Because hitting a baseball is hard.” —Chris Reivers (07:45)

• On the Persistence of NFL Popularity:
  “The NFL does just keep getting bigger and bigger... companies that decide to spend that kind of money obviously think it's worth it.” —Chris Reivers (19:02)

• On American Resilience:
  “We're so lucky here. We have coolers that you can ride.” —Mike Frattallone (29:20)

• Golf Carts as Life’s Next Step:
  “You strike me as a golf cart guy.” —Chris Reivers (28:00)
  “I am 100% a golf cart [guy]. I don't have a spot where I could use one.” —Mike Frattallone (28:03)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------------------------|:--------------:| | Golf Show nostalgia & winter escape | 01:31–04:00 | | Johnny Randle’s golf habits, tracking golf data | 04:02–05:54 | | Family golf, costs, and kids’ sports dilemmas | 06:04–08:15 | | Youth wrestling, gender issues, stories of overcoming obstacles| 08:37–12:15 | | “We Are Nuts” sidebar, local sponsorship plugs | 12:25–13:17 | | Super Bowl on Valentine’s Day, relationship strategies | 15:18–17:24 | | Erosion of Super Bowl ad impact, nostalgia for old ads | 17:42–19:44 | | 250th Anniversary, civic pride, polarization | 20:05–21:27 | | Minneapolis downtown: recovery, urban vibes | 22:06–23:17 | | The rise of golf carts (and motorized coolers!) | 26:34–29:36 | | Mike’s octopus joke | 31:06–31:22 | | Final event plugs & sign-off | 32:14–end |

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Tone & Style

Friendly, bantering, and relatable, Chris and Mike riff on cultural quirks with a blend of classic Midwestern modesty, dry wit, and local knowledge. Storytelling and gentle ribbing abound, adding color and charm to the community-centric show.

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Summary Takeaway

Even amid ad reads and event promotions, the Scramble stays rooted in the heart of Minnesota life. If you’re a fan of practical wisdom, neighborhood humor, and thinking deeply (but not too seriously) about life’s little luxuries and challenges, this episode is a cozy cross-section of community, nostalgia, and the simple joy of getting out and about—golf cart entirely optional.

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Transcript

[Chris Reivers]

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[Chris Reivers]

Please hold your applause until the end of the show. This is the weekly Scramble Podcast. My name is Chris Reivers with me as always. His name is Mike Fredaloni. Welcome. Michael, how the heck are you?

[Mike Fradaloni]

How you doing, Reivers?

[Chris Reivers]

I'm great. We are live at the North American Banking Company Minnesota Golf Show. Now I forget you weren't able to join us last year because I think you had work related commitments a year ago at the golf show because you love this event.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I come every year, right?

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, but I know that the day that we were out here, I thought you had a work related commitment so you weren't able to attend.

[Mike Fradaloni]

And then you got some great star. Who was it?

[Chris Reivers]

Well, it was Tom Bernard. So that was actually where I was going. And I'll say this because Tom's such a great sport and I remember the boss saying, well, because Tom had started his podcast and we were trying to get as many people out here just, you know, various fans and whatnot. And I looked at Tom, I said, I'm so sorry you have to do this. He says, reavers? What are you talking about? You've been in broadcasting for a billion years. You have had the highest of success of anybody around and you've got to do the golf show with me.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I wonder what that feels like when you were on the top of the mountain. Tom Bernard.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Mike Fradaloni]

And then all of a sudden, he's at the golf show with you. But he.

[Chris Reivers]

He couldn't have been cooler.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Did you ever meet the guys from Led Zeppelin?

[Chris Reivers]

Remember that time, the guys from Journey? Remember that time that you had the chucker. But no, but Tom couldn't have been cooler about it. He was just an awesome dude. It was so much fun. And I always forget because, like I said, I can't remember what year this is for us here out at the golf show, but it's been. We've been doing this a long time. And I do. I'm. I'm not a huge golfer, but this event is so much fun because there's so many cool things and aspects about it. But you know what I love about it the most? It's because it's normally at the midway point of winter or towards the two thirds part of winter. Whatever. Whatever that number is.

[Mike Fradaloni]

The sign that it's.

[Chris Reivers]

It's like, okay, we're almost there. We're almost there. Pretty soon, spring training is going to start. And that's the thing I've always liked about this event, is it just reminds you that we're not that far away from it actually being. And of course, now it's going to be beautiful out for, like, the next week. But that's the thing I've always liked about this event.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Reavers. I was walking outside. My wife and I were coming over here. My pick, right? And we came over, and I just stood in the driveway for a second. I said, isn't this beautiful? And then I thought, how suckered have we been? It's like 44 degrees.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm like, wow, this is really beautiful out. Right? Right.

[Mike Fradaloni]

We're so just destined to be goofy when it gets warm here. You know, it's not. It's not 71, it's not 61, and it's 41.

[Chris Reivers]

I'll say that. And I have a really good friend who listens to our show every. Every single week. And he'll say. He'll send me a text from his beautiful mountainside place in Phoenix. It's like, you dink. I don't want to see that.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Well, at least we have green. Phoenix is just all brown.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Mike Fradaloni]

See, See, we.

[Chris Reivers]

And he's probably golfing today.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Yeah, we're at the golf show.

[Chris Reivers]

Okay.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Better.

[Chris Reivers]

So we had. I'm interested to get your reaction to this. We had Johnny Randal on, Former Minnesota Viking hall of Fame football player. One of the coolest dudes like you would if you didn't know he played professional sports. You would never be able to tell.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Other than the fact that he's huge.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, right, but he's just a down to earth dude. He's a guy that would sit with us at the 19th hole and have a beverage and just BS. He's just a cool guy. But he told me he gets four to five rounds of golf in every week. And I said, that's fratolone level golf. But, but then I thought, I don't think that, that you're even close to that amount of golf.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Three years ago, right around three years ago, I played 75 rounds in a year. And that was a lot for me. And, but a lot of those are nine hole rounds. But last year and oh, by the way, reverse, I keep track of every round I play, every hole I play, what I shoot, everything. I keep it on a spreadsheet. So I like to know. And last year I played 17 rounds.

[Chris Reivers]

So not a lot.

[Mike Fradaloni]

And that was including travel rounds.

[Chris Reivers]

Now you're looking at someone that has an accounting degree. I am a certified nerd.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Sure.

[Chris Reivers]

And I, I, you know, I have my own budgets and things like that. You, you have a, you have a spreadsheet for your rounds of golf.

[Mike Fradaloni]

So I really. Okay, when, when my wife and I joined this golf place, right. We joined a golf course, and I said, I really want to see how much this is. So I kept every shot, every round that I played, all my scores, and then I took the total dollar amount that I spent at the club.

[Chris Reivers]

Okay.

[Mike Fradaloni]

And then I divided the two, and then I cried for a little bit.

[Chris Reivers]

Because you're realizing, wow, it's really, really expensive.

[Mike Fradaloni]

So then I actually felt better, though, because if I shot poorly, I had more swings in, which lowered my cost per swing down a little bit. That's how much of a nerd I am. Data matters to me.

[Chris Reivers]

You almost applied, you know, the saber metrics with major league baseball to your golf activity.

[Mike Fradaloni]

If I shot 100, I was like, that's a little bit better deal for me. It's value golf. If I shoot a 90, it's a little bit more per swing and now.

[Chris Reivers]

Transition to my golf game. And the last round I think I participated in was at a very, very beautiful course. It's called the River Hills nine.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Oh, is that nice?

[Chris Reivers]

Down between Faribault and Medford. And I don't even know if that's called. No, the River Valley nine. Excuse me. In which I don't know how much grass is actually on the course, it's a lot of dirt, but you get some good roll. But there's basically, it's where guys go to have their bachelor party. Okay. That's. That's the course that you go to have your bachelor party. And most of the time guys are not even hitting their own ball. They'll just find one and say, that's gotta be mine. And I think that was the last round of golf I played. And that was maybe two summers ago. Because it was for, oddly enough, a bachelor party of a friend of mine.

[Mike Fradaloni]

So you gotta get the boys, your sons into it.

[Chris Reivers]

See, here's why I'm holding off on that. Because I think now my oldest boy has a left handed swing and my youngest is a right handed swing. The only reason I have, and I took them out one time, I think this is when we had like a massive Reavers camping trip that had a golf course. Oh, it was the golf course down or the camping ground golf course down by Harmony.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

When we were there. And my little guy just will take up anything. He doesn't care. He just wants to participate and he wants to compete. I'm afraid of doing it though.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Because it's expensive.

[Chris Reivers]

No.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Then they want to play.

[Chris Reivers]

Nope. Why do they get.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Why do they get changed their baseball swing and you don't.

[Chris Reivers]

100%. And I don't want them. I don't also want them to say, you know, I like this a lot more than baseball.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Because that's a thing with kids.

[Mike Fradaloni]

It is a thing with kids because. And they should like it. Golf is better than baseball.

[Chris Reivers]

No, you're wrong. But the thing is baseball is losing a lot of kids to golf. Lacrosse.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I wonder why.

[Chris Reivers]

Because hitting a baseball is hard.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Oh, is that it? That it's too hard for people?

[Chris Reivers]

No.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Or is it the four hours of downtime during each game?

[Chris Reivers]

Well, there is that. And I mean, I love baseball, but it is, it is. You know, a common talking point is about how do we keep as many kids playing baseball, baseball as possible? Because there are just other opportunities where there weren't as many opportunities when. When you and I were growing up. Right.

[Mike Fradaloni]

There's no way your kids aren't going to play baseball because you're going to be one of those dads.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm not even going to test it.

[Mike Fradaloni]

You're not even going to test it?

[Chris Reivers]

Not even going to test all other sports.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I remember when my daughter first came to me and she said, I think I want to play hockey. And I said, no, no. And luckily she Wasn't one of those kids that says, I'm going to play hockey now. Oh, because I just said I don't want to just sit in a frozen ice arena watching my kid fall all the time. Because she's my kid, she's not going to be so great at anything, right? So. And it's just cold and it stinks and their equipment stinks and it's expensive.

[Chris Reivers]

And you know what might also be, what might also rival that experience and a not good one, by the way? Wrestling.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Oh, wrestling.

[Chris Reivers]

So I don't want to name any names, but I have a good friend and his son is a very avid wrestler and he's the same age as one of my, one of my sons. And I'll say, hey, where are we heading this weekend? They had to, they had to drive to again, I'm trying to be very careful by not outing this person. They had to drive way four hours north of where, of where we live or something. I don't even remember. But it was, it was a big tournament, right? So you gotta, you gotta get there, you gotta weigh in Friday and then you gotta get, get to the hotel, get to bed early because you got to be at the, at the, at the meet in the morning. They sat at that stinking gymnasium for like nine hours. And he wrestled two times.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Oh really?

[Chris Reivers]

Because one, one of its team and the other is individual. And again, I, I had a cousin that was a state champion wrestler. I had a bunch of friends. So I don't, my, my knowledge of wrestling is very, very limited. But that they had to sit there all day. That's two nights of hotels, four hours one way, four hours back. And that's your whole weekend.

[Mike Fradaloni]

And that's your whole weekend for, for 6 of entertainment.

[Chris Reivers]

No, thank you.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I don't know if you talked about on the Garage Logic podcast that female wrestler who charged the male wrestler of sexual assault. Did you read about.

[Chris Reivers]

I think I did see something that.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Is a tough thing. I'm like, that is a tough thing to, to put a female wrestling males.

[Chris Reivers]

That's.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I didn't know, I don't.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, it's, but it's been, it's been going on for, for a number of years now because I know a guy that when he was a junior in high school he had to wrestle a female and he was very uncomfortable about doing it.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I think that'd be very tough.

[Chris Reivers]

But because you're almost in a no win position. That's what I mean. And again, I'm not trying to say that girls don't deserve the opportunity to do that. I'm just saying. It's just. It's just an awkward position for everybody to be in.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Very awkward. Right. I know I couldn't have handled it, but we did.

[Chris Reivers]

You don't strike me as a guy that had been very good at wrestling. No, no.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I don't like getting. One time I. I told you I bumped myself in the nose once. My eyes kind of teared up, and I was like, man, I don't think I could handle more pain than that. It was something that's like, I was opening a drawer, and it hit me in the face.

[Chris Reivers]

More pain than that.

[Mike Fradaloni]

So when I was in high school, we had a gentleman in my school, a kid with one arm, no legs, one arm. So he just had one arm. And this is not a joke.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, okay.

[Mike Fradaloni]

And he wrestled, and. But he was very light because he didn't have legs. And his one arm was incredibly strong. Right. Because he did everything with that one arm. This is not a joke. He was on our. On our wrestling team, and he would whoop people.

[Chris Reivers]

Really?

[Mike Fradaloni]

Yeah. Well, they. You couldn't really grab him, and he.

[Chris Reivers]

Was a solid muscle, good center of gravity.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Nice, low center of gravity. Right. He really knew what he was doing, and that was great. I always worried about him, so I thought, what if he pulls his shoulder or.

[Chris Reivers]

Okay, no legs, no legs. One arm, one arm.

[Mike Fradaloni]

And he would actually sit on a skateboard and go, like, with his one arm and cruise around school. Like, he was very functioning. He was like a.

[Chris Reivers]

How did he. How was he able to maneuver?

[Mike Fradaloni]

Just shot his whole body around. But he was a strong kid. Right?

[Chris Reivers]

Well, I don't doubt that at all.

[Mike Fradaloni]

So if you. I don't know. What. What are my legs weigh? I don't know, £50 or whatever. If my legs are gone and one of my arms. Another £10 for my arm.

[Chris Reivers]

Okay.

[Mike Fradaloni]

So all of a sudden, I'm 60 pounds lighter now. I'm in a much lighter weight class. So he was probably wrestling flyweight kids. But he had this one big arm. I don't know. He did it.

[Chris Reivers]

It's a true story.

[Mike Fradaloni]

People are out there looking. Are you looking it up? Is there a one arm? And I'm sure Royce, he talked about him on. They had to do a story about him.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm sure he did.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm sure he did. Let's talk about. We are nuts and wearenutsmn.com we're now focusing on the toffee original toffee peanuts that I. They're the first ones. Right. That they, that the brand came out with.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I think they are the number one.

[Chris Reivers]

I think so. I think so.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I'm going to digress. Right in the middle of your spot. Why are they not at the golf show? Because we are Nuts would be perfect.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh my God.

[Mike Fradaloni]

To take. Because they come in the package. You set them right in the cup holder of your golf cart.

[Chris Reivers]

Perfect.

[Mike Fradaloni]

They should absolutely have a booth here at the golf show.

[Chris Reivers]

Wow. You are 100% right. Okay, well who runs this?

[Mike Fradaloni]

Let's talk to that person. Okay, we need we are nuts down here.

[Chris Reivers]

But you can see them at all of your Fratelloni's hardware and garden stores locations. Max Hardware. You can also see them at 700 different quick trips locations. Lunds and Byerlys, Kowalski's markets. Coburn's has we are Nuts and so does county market.

[Mike Fradaloni]

And gosh, I hope you always forget Cub.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Mike Fradaloni]

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[Mike Fradaloni]

You know what they did is they gave me this gift basket. Like a real nice gift basket. Oh yeah. And I brought it home today and I set it on the counter and I said to my pick, I said, hey, happy Valentine's Day. And then I realized there was a card inside there, so I had to like quickly cut it out. And it was from Jeff the sales guy saying, hey, thanks for all you do. It's been really a great year. So she has. So she was blessed for Valentine's Day with a we are nuts basket that I secondhand gave her.

[Chris Reivers]

So I was listening to one of a favorite podcast of mine and the subject of Valentine's Day came up and Valentine's Day is tomorrow for those of you that don't know, but next year. So that basically the crux of the conversation was how do you handle it? Because next year. So a year from tomorrow will be the Super Bowl. So Valentine's Day, it's, it's going to be the latest super bowl in the history of the NFL. And it has something to do with the scheduling and how they are, they're trying to coincide it with a couple of other events. And I think it's based upon the fact that NBC is going to have it in, in conjunction with, I don't know if it's the NBA All Star game, I can't remember, but it doesn't matter. But the super bowl is going to be in Los Angeles a year from tomorrow on Valentine's Day. And so the conversation was, okay, what do you do? You're a longstanding Vikings fan or you're a long standing pick a team that's hardly had any success. What happens if your favorite team goes to the super bowl and it's on Valentine's Day? And to me it's like, well, first of all, you take the gal.

[Mike Fradaloni]

You take the gal.

[Chris Reivers]

That's what you do. You just, you just turn it into the romantic getaway weekend. Let's go to Los Angeles. Excuse me for a couple of hours while I go to the game or we go to a sports bar or whatever, whatever. Just because you want to be in the city. Because I can't remember, I can't tell you how many people when the super bowl is here, just came to town and they just came to town. I mean, I did so many different events between the radio station and the bartending gig where there was just people that just wanted to be here, just wanted to be part of the atmosphere.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Well, there's huge parties.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah. And so I found that interesting. Like I. But some of these guys are like, oh, gosh, I don't know. Well, first of all, if you've been in a long standing, long term relationship. Like, I've been a die hard Vikings fan since I was born.

[Mike Fradaloni]

You would just say, honey, I'm gone, I'm gone.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm just, I'm out of here. Sorry.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Vikings go to the Super Bowl. Just let your guy go. Just let your guy go. Yeah. If your partner's a big Vikings fan, just let him do it. And it's a once in a lifetime thing.

[Chris Reivers]

And let's be honest, Valentine's Day, terribly overrated.

[Mike Fradaloni]

You know, I wonder if the people at Hallmark are kind of mad at that because the super bowl will take the punch out of, oh, 100%. Just think of now all the super bowl ads. They'll have to have love involved in them.

[Chris Reivers]

I have a prediction.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Let's get.

[Chris Reivers]

So we talked about this on Tuesday's show because it was just a couple of days removed from the Super Bowl. I forget who I was talking to. But this is someone that's in marketing, advertising, things like that. The slow erosion of the punch of super bowl ads. Because let's be honest, advertising works well in certain demographics. Podcasting, it works really well because you have a dedicated and very committed listening audience. But how many people that are watching, you didn't even remember a commercial that stood out to you?

[Mike Fradaloni]

I didn't watch any of them.

[Chris Reivers]

And that's just it. And I remember I just only looked up the ring camera commercial, only because I saw so much of it circulating on social media. Otherwise, I don't even remember at what point it appeared during the Super Bowl. So I guess that's my point. How many different companies are still gonna say it's worth spending $10 million for 30 seconds of airtime?

[Mike Fradaloni]

I mean, they're still getting 125 million people watching it. Right. So are they though? Percentage of those or some percentage are actually catching the ads to half of them. Right. So it's 60 million people seeing something. It's a pretty big number. No matter what. 60 million people is almost like our listening, 100%.

[Chris Reivers]

So yeah.

[Mike Fradaloni]

When we are nuts gets an ad, are we charging them like a million bucks a minute?

[Chris Reivers]

We probably should.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

We should.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Really dramatically.

[Chris Reivers]

We should. We're just kidding. We're not gonna do that. We're not gonna do that.

[Mike Fradaloni]

We would if we could.

[Chris Reivers]

And again, do that in a heartbeat. We always say, well, it can't keep getting bigger. And I'm always wrong because the NFL does just keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and that. And obviously the companies that decide to spend that kind of Money, obviously think.

[Mike Fradaloni]

It'S worth it and it must be, right. You need to have a Super bowl ad. That's something. If you're a big enough company, it would be cool to have a super.

[Chris Reivers]

But remember though, when you would see, like, I'll never forget, it was the, it was the Super bowl after 9, 11. And remember the Budweiser commercial where the horse kind of bowed his head at the twin.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I'm like, you cry.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh my. Yeah, I still remember that. And that was 25 years ago.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Up your neck right now.

[Chris Reivers]

Wouldn't have been 24 years ago because it was. Would have been the 2002 Super Bowl. Yeah, it was 9, 11, 2001, sure. Anyway.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Yeah. When did that happen again? I know how fast we forget.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, it's even weird now to have my kids ask me about that stuff because they're doing history lessons on it and you just think, I guess it was 25 years ago.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Unbelievable. Do you think now that Our country is 250 years old, right. And we're going to have a big Fourth of July, so.

[Chris Reivers]

With a brand new ballroom.

[Mike Fradaloni]

With a brand new ballroom. I was at a buying convention this last week, right. So you go down there and it's a big convention center like this, like where we're at the golf show. And it's booth after booth after booth of new things. And I went up to this big display of American flags. It's this big, beautiful American flag display. And I thought, huh, do you think people are going to get into it this year or do you think people are going to be just mad enough?

[Chris Reivers]

What do you mean? What do you mean get into it?

[Mike Fradaloni]

Get into the love of the.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, the grand celebration of the country. I'm sorry, okay.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Years did I just wonder if people are going to say, huh, I'm not gonna celebrate. Because they don't like something about politics, unfortunately.

[Chris Reivers]

I think because of how polarized we have become just as a society. I don't think, I mean, there will be people that get into it, obviously. You know, Fourth of July is gonna be huge. Like it always is, you know, and you always can't wait. And depending upon, I guess, where you decide to celebrate. Like I'll never forget. I guess so it kind of depends on where you decide to go. But I mean, one of my favorite fourth of July's was the COVID summer and we took the boys out to South Dakota and that was the day. Remember I told you about this?

[Mike Fradaloni]

You just talked about it on the show.

[Chris Reivers]

That was the day that Trump flew Air Force One, like right above our vehicle. And it was one of the coolest.

[Mike Fradaloni]

It was the best day.

[Chris Reivers]

It was, it was just cool.

[Mike Fradaloni]

He flew it. He's the best pilot of the plane. That's me doing Trump, just in case you didn't get it. It was, it was the biggest day ever.

[Chris Reivers]

That was one.

[Mike Fradaloni]

He was trying to figure out where his head was gonna go on Mount Rushmore.

[Chris Reivers]

And I gotta tell you, whether you like or hate the guy, the fact that we were driving by miles and miles and miles of people ready to protest leading up from wherever the Air Force base all the way to, to, to Mount Rushmore. And the fact that the plane landed or he did the loop. Yeah, plane landed and then he took a helicopter. It was like. That was awesome.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Don't worry, I'm going to miss all of this.

[Chris Reivers]

I just not even going to bother because they're all expecting him to drive up anyway. Sorry.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I'm going to have a big celebration. I think we're special. 250 is a big number, right? Okay. Odds on making it another 250 years for us. Odds.

[Chris Reivers]

Zero.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Odds on America making it five more years. I think we're 99% five more years.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, but you're the one that's the eternal optimist about things like that.

[Mike Fradaloni]

But things seem weird at the moment.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, I will say this, it was weird because I've rarely come, you know, downtown, like where our station is located. We're on basically the border of Minneapolis and St. Paul, right by the U of M. And you know, we have a nice secure location. And so I don't really ever go into, quote unquote, the city because we're basically working here. Yeah. And so this was really one of the first times that I've driven to the city and boy, a number of months maybe, maybe since the last Twins game I went to.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Sure.

[Chris Reivers]

And it was. It just felt different, you know, like there weren't a ton of people that were out walking around. It was a beautiful, you know what, 40 degree day when we pulled in. But you didn't really see a little bit of hustle and bustle during a normal Friday workday.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Yeah, it didn't seem like there was. There wasn't much traffic. What's interesting though is this golf show is already busy. Right. There's people. Yeah, right. And a couple of weeks ago, a few weeks ago was the boat show. And I think the boat show must have had low numbers because that was when ice was down the road and. And now I think the city might be calming down dramatically.

[Chris Reivers]

I think so, too.

[Mike Fradaloni]

It's a good time to come back, look at Minneapolis. Come to the golf show. See that? Especially if you. If you love golf, you kind of got to do it.

[Chris Reivers]

I can ask him. Bernie, before you take a huge bite out of that sandwich, what was our first year doing the golf show here? Do you remember? 20 we. Okay, I. That's what I thought. I thought it was, like, 10 years ago or so, because the first time we did the golf show, we were here on a Friday. And then we also did Twins Fest, which was the same weekend.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

And I remember Pat and I did the golf show here. Royce. And then. And then we went over to Target Field, and we did some, like, Q and A stuff at Twins Fest. And I thought, I'll just walk. And it was. It's a long walk. Well, that I didn't care about, because I was. I was gonna get a room downtown.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

And I was just gonna. Kind of. Just that way, I could park my car and I could go in between the two spots if I needed.

[Mike Fradaloni]

You knew you were gonna be exhausted after seeing all your baseball players.

[Chris Reivers]

No, but here's.

[Mike Fradaloni]

So here's why I'm seeing all these baseball players.

[Chris Reivers]

So I thought. I just decided I was gonna walk. And it was not warm.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

And I only had, like, a vest or something.

[Mike Fradaloni]

No skyway.

[Chris Reivers]

And I remember going, this was a really bad idea because I'm now freezing and gonna get hypothermia.

[Mike Fradaloni]

But you saved some money.

[Chris Reivers]

I did.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Was that when we had the Twins? Did we have the Twins then?

[Chris Reivers]

No. I think we had lost the rights to the Twins by then, but we were still doing Twins Fest like we would still do at Target Field for you.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Why? Because when you started your career with these guys, with Hubbard and the juggernaut of AM 1500.

[Chris Reivers]

Right.

[Mike Fradaloni]

We had the Twins.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Mike Fradaloni]

And you were like, I made it. I could not be in a better spot in my career because I'm on a station that has the Twins. Sure. And then all of a sudden, boom, they're gone.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, it was fun.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Feel like someone amputated an arm for you.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, not that I want to throw them under the bus, but my guy, Joe Anderson, Mr. Fun. One of the. One of the career highlights was, you know, getting the phone call every. You know, every third day going, you're doing the pregame. I'm out. Yeah.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Oh, isn't that.

[Chris Reivers]

So I would go down to do the half an hour pregame to the pregame after Gl and then before you throw it to the. To Chris Atterbury and the Twins broadcast booth.

[Mike Fradaloni]

You loved it.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, it was awesome. And then I, you know, go to the game. It was great. It was so much fun.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I didn't even know you'd like that.

[Chris Reivers]

What do you mean?

[Mike Fradaloni]

I'm kidding.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Mike Fradaloni]

Sure.

[Chris Reivers]

I know I will. I know I.

[Mike Fradaloni]

The things you need today, it's probably not a golf.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, golf cart is not what I need right now. But here's the thing, because Joe said.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Well, who.

[Chris Reivers]

Joe doesn't get that. You don't understand how big the golf cart business has become. My. Both of my brothers, who I don't think have ever picked up a golf club in the last 15 years, both own golf carts. In fact, my younger brother has two of them.

[Mike Fradaloni]

So certain communities, that's how you get around the, you know, around the block. Like you go see your friend, you jump on the golf cart.

[Chris Reivers]

So I was mentioning my buddy in Phoenix. That's how he goes to get groceries.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Oh, really?

[Chris Reivers]

Because their little community, well, it's actually north of Phoenix, but that's how he goes to the grocery store. When he goes to the gym in the morning, he drives the golf cart. That's just, that's how they get around. But camping now, camping and golf carts have become massive.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Really?

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, yeah. In fact, if I know what my brothers are going to Be camping at a certain spot. I'll just, oh, I'll stop by on a Saturday. And then all I do is, you know, grab a beer, drive the golf cart around the campground. It's fantastic. I got to go pick up the kids from the swimming pool. Hang on. I'll be right there.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Well, when we walked in here, they have a couple of different golf carts, golf cart vendors. And I turned to my pick and I said, hey, that one. Just think we could have that at the house. We could drive it around the house. We could take it to the bar because it's street legal.

[Chris Reivers]

Sure.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Drive down our driveway. And we're like a couple blocks away from a bar.

[Chris Reivers]

So we just.

[Mike Fradaloni]

And she said, well, that sounds just like an excuse for you to buy something.

[Chris Reivers]

I said, yeah, she's right.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I think that's exactly what it is. Because she's like, we have cars or we could walk there. And I'm like, you.

[Chris Reivers]

You strike me as a golf cart guy.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I am 100% a golf cart. I don't have a spot where I could use one. Yeah, like, I don't need one at my house. I'm gonna do a drive up and down my driveway. But maybe. Yeah, I guess that sounds the whole point. That's really. Hey, honey, will you go pick one? Just pick one.

[Chris Reivers]

Just pick up the nice color that you want.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Yeah, that would be a great Valentine's Day gift. Hint, hint.

[Chris Reivers]

A nice pink color.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I want a manly one that does wheelies.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, in fact, so on the Reavers camping extravaganza every year, it's. It's my entire family. And one time, one of my brother's biggest redneck buddy in the world. His name is Joe. Great dude, awesome dude. And his family's so much fun to hang out with him and his wife and his. And his kids and their kids are a little bit older. Anyway, he has one that. I mean, it's like a. It's almost like an off road racer.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Like a little monster.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, it's just fantastic. And so he'll say, get on in. But what he also has that accompanies this is he has a motorized cooler.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Cooler. You sit on the cooler. I live flows.

[Chris Reivers]

So you. Anything motorized, you basically ride it like you would ride a motorcycle. You're sitting on a cooler, except it's just a cooler. And then you stop and like, do you need one? Did you. Did you need one right now? And it's like, well, yeah, I need one right now anyway.

[Mike Fradaloni]

That's fantastic.

[Chris Reivers]

The advancements in technology and what do we do? We put wheels on a cooler.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Again, I always go back to, we're so lucky here. We have coolers that you can ride, right?

[Chris Reivers]

America.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Why are we having such problems in America? It's the best it's ever going to be. Let's just relax, hop on our cooler motorcycle, have a golf cart, buy some.

[Chris Reivers]

Bitcoin, get on with it.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Just, let's go. We don't have to have all this consternation. We can just live a happy life. We're not struggling to get fresh water. We're good on all that stuff.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, and you mentioned, because Joe brought this up earlier too, and you mentioned, you know, with ice, the announcement that was made yesterday. And you just think, okay, what if this all just kind of worked? Meaning getting whatever they needed to get done got done. You know, you saw some of the numbers and the figures of people that were apprehended and arrested. And, you know, we can have our issues with the tactful response or whatever, but what if everything worked and all of a sudden the city started to work again and people felt safe to come back downtown? And what if all of that worked, right? Wouldn't. Wouldn't the logical minded person say, you know what? Okay, I'm cool?

[Mike Fradaloni]

Yeah, I think people will forget about it pretty quickly.

[Chris Reivers]

I hope so.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Yeah, it did take. It took the story away from the fraud. Right. The massive fraud that was happening. It made that fraud story really not be a story anymore. That's a shame because that's something we're going to have to follow through. I know you and I will talk about it numerous times. Probably not at the golf show.

[Chris Reivers]

Right.

[Mike Fradaloni]

But when we talk about it on future weekly scrambles, we go deep. I do. I'm reaching out to some people that are going to come in and talk to us about it from the Somalian point of view.

[Chris Reivers]

Wow. Okay.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Because we don't. We don't. I don't know a lot of Somalians that will, you know, I know some people that will come on our show.

[Chris Reivers]

I'd love to talk like. Yeah, I want to have that conversation.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I think that would be something you and I could do good on. Yeah, yeah. Make making life better. I do know. What do you call.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, God.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Two octopi that look alike? Octopuses. Octopius.

[Chris Reivers]

Mike, I.

[Mike Fradaloni]

What do you call two octopuses that look alike?

[Chris Reivers]

I don't think I know the answer to what I call two different octopuses that look alike.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Tentacles.

[Chris Reivers]

Even though we're at the golf show, we weren't gonna get rid of Mike's joke.

[Mike Fradaloni]

I gotta do it. I gotta do it.

[Chris Reivers]

That's your bet.

[Mike Fradaloni]

Reivers, you are the best.

[Chris Reivers]

Please do us a favor, rate and review the show wherever you happen to be listening the weekly Scramble podcast. It helps other people find the show. It helps us out as well. And we thank each and every one of you. And once again, thank you to our friends at North American Banking Company and their sponsorship of the North American Banking Company Minnesota Golf Show. Oh, I should also mention because I haven't put this plug in yet. By the way, Open today is Friday until 6 o', clock, Saturday open until 6pm and then Sunday until 3 o'. Clock. What? Where are you pointing at? Oh, There he is. Mr. Bilski is right there. But you know, like I said, there's so much fun activities coming out here. But come on down to the Minneapolis Convention center and you can also be part of the North American Banking Company Minnesota Golf Show. His name is Mike Fradaloni. My name is Chris Reivers. Thank you so much. We'll talk to you next time. Cheers.

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