SCRAMBLE: Sam Darnold actually lost money winning the Super Bowl in California

Summary

Podcast Summary: “SCRAMBLE: Sam Darnold actually lost money winning the Super Bowl in California”

Podcast: Garage Logic – The Weekly Scramble
Host/Network: Chris Reivers & Mike Fratelloni, Gamut Podcast Network
Date: February 11, 2026

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Main Theme and Purpose

This lively episode of The Weekly Scramble, spun off from Minnesota’s beloved Garage Logic, takes a classic “cold one at the bar” approach to current events, focusing on post-Super Bowl takes, the weird world of sports and taxes, tech and privacy, and an unsparing foray into cultural and political oddities—peppered with local humor, Midwest skepticism, and a strong dose of common sense.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Sam Darnold’s Super Bowl “Loss” in California

Timestamps: 02:26–04:40

• The hosts discuss the story of former Viking QB Sam Darnold winning a Super Bowl with Seattle, only to lose money due to California’s high taxes on player earnings, including bonuses for the Super Bowl.
• Chris: “Sam Darnold lost money playing in that game on Sunday...” (03:18)
• The tax burden isn’t just a football issue—pro golfers are avoiding tournaments like Pebble Beach due to similar punitive taxes.
• Broader point about high-tax states (California, Minnesota) prompting even prominent figures (like Mark Zuckerberg) to flee to places like Florida.

2. Taxes, Political Hypocrisy, and Societal Tribes

Timestamps: 04:40–09:22

• The conversation pivots to public figures (e.g., Zuckerberg) who espouse progressive values but move to lower-tax states.
• Mike and Chris ruminate on how politically, it’s easier to publicly be left-leaning, while centrists/conservatives are routinely vilified.
• Chris (on Bill Maher): “Just because I think a grown man in a dress shouldn’t be in a women’s bathroom, that doesn’t make me a Donald Trump right-wing nutcase.” (06:19)
• Loss of middle ground in America—most people exist in the “nuanced” middle, but public debate penalizes that stance.

3. Transgender Lawsuit and Shifts in Medical Policy

Timestamps: 07:42–09:22

• Refers to a high-profile lawsuit from a young trans patient and the subsequent shift in major medical organizations’ guidance regarding surgeries under 18.
• Mike: “One week killed the transgender movement. One lawsuit. ...[Now] the medical society said, you know what? We don’t think we should perform these surgeries on people under 18.” (07:58)
• Framing of the decision as driven by fear of “virtue signaling” lawsuits and loss of money, more than ethics.

4. Super Bowl Commercials, Surveillance Tech & Privacy

Timestamps: 11:22–16:45

• Riffing on how Super Bowl ads are now discussed as much as the games, the hosts dwell on a Ring camera commercial where a lost dog is found using neighborhood surveillance.
• Chris: “This is the most terrifying thing I’ve ever seen in my life.” (14:11)
• Debate on whether opting out of surveillance features matters when tech companies retain the data anyway—paranoia over Alexa, TSA facial scans, and inevitable loss of privacy.
• Mike: “We’re gone. It’s gone. Our freedom is gone.” (15:15)
• Discussion of viral porch pirate “justice” videos and whether they justify omnipresent surveillance.

5. Bad Bunny, Super Bowl Halftime Shows & Cultural Change

Timestamps: 16:45–23:13

• Discussion on the growing irrelevance of Super Bowl halftime shows to older viewers; reminiscences of famous moments (e.g., Nipplegate with Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake, 2004).
• Chris and Mike reflect on Bad Bunny’s performance:
  • Chris: “It was produced well... just because I might not be a particular fan ...doesn’t mean I’m going to rip it. Because he’s a huge deal.” (17:41)
  • Mike jokes Bad Bunny may have thought he was playing at a soccer event, not a football game (18:39).
• The trend of halftime acts having more impact on streaming charts than with the actual TV crowd.
• Ongoing underlying political and social messages—Chris: “If you don’t think there’s going to be some type of underlying messaging, well, you’re fooling yourself.” (19:18)

6. Epstein Files & Societal Rot

Timestamps: 25:38–34:36

• The last segment dives (with some trepidation) into the recent release of Jeffrey Epstein case documents—why media/public hesitance to dig deeper persists.
• Chris: “I have a hard time reading this stuff because it’s the innocent of the innocent that were preyed upon.” (25:39)
• Elon Musk offered to legally back anyone who breaks an NDA to reveal more details.
• Pizzagate, coded language (“cheese pizza and grape soda”), and the persistent, bizarre intersections of conspiracy and fact.
• Mike: “A thousand times someone said, let’s get cheese pizza and grape soda… That is a weird … and that’s a known child molestation vernacular.” (31:33)
• Joking but serious concern about the danger of powerful people being publicly named.
• Quick asides about hacks/redactions, the Fortnite account story, and Woody Allen as a punchline for hypocrisy.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Super Bowl commercial culture:
  • Mike: “I’m a 55 year old man and I don’t give two shits. ...I literally cannot care less about advertising.” (11:35)
• On tech privacy:
  • Chris: “I always unplug the Alexa because it’s listening to you.” (14:34)
  • Mike: “We’re gone. It’s gone. Our freedom is gone.” (15:15)
• On being politically centrist:
  • Chris: “We’ve lost the middle ground. We’ve lost the ability to have any nuance…” (06:27)
• On Bad Bunny’s halftime:
  • Mike: “He was thinking it was soccer. ...He speaks English, by the way. Perfectly.” (18:57)
  • Chris: “Was it entertaining? Sure... I didn’t understand a word he was saying.” (17:41)
• On Nipplegate and collective memory:
  • Chris: “My ability to retain absolutely useless information is quite astounding.” (22:24)
• On Epstein and public fear:
  • Chris: “They fear if I start talking, I’m gonna be dead.” (26:41)
  • Mike: “I can’t live with this thought of this guy had a bunch of these other people, and now five days ago, the people are reopening the Pizzagate conspiracy...” (33:32)
• On Woody Allen (dark humor):
  • Mike: “I know he’s not a saint, but I can’t imagine he would cheat on his daughter like that.” (34:42)

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Discussion Flow and Tone

• The hosts maintain their signature Garage Logic tone: bantering, skeptical, sardonic but approachable Midwestern, sometimes veering into dark humor and blunt language.
• They repeatedly circle back to Minnesota and local sensibilities (“common sense” as a motif), while grappling with national stories in a way that makes them relatable, and often self-deprecating about the limits of their own understanding or patience for the news.

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Useful Segment Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Highlight | |------------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:26–04:40| Sam Darnold’s California Super Bowl Tax Loss | | 04:40–09:22| Politics, Taxes, and Middle Ground | | 11:22–16:45| Surveillance Tech, Super Bowl Ads, and Privacy | | 16:45–23:13| Halftime Shows: Bad Bunny & Cultural Memory | | 25:38–34:36| Epstein Files, Conspiracy, and Societal Trust |

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Conclusion

In true Scramble fashion, this episode is a fast-moving, opinionated, and sometimes darkly humorous ride through post-Super Bowl malaise, contemporary political and social conundrums, privacy anxieties, and the ever-present shadow of scandal—delivered with Minnesota-brewed common sense and the familiar, unvarnished candor that defines the Garage Logic community.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[C]

Happy anniversary to all those who celebrate. This is the weekly scramble podcast. My name is Chris Reivers. With me as always. His name is Mike Fredaloni. Hello, Mike. Michael.

[B]

How you doing? Reavers.

[C]

Oh, spectacular.

[B]

We had some show prep conversations before. Yeah, and I like that you can get kicked in the junk metaphorically and you just keep rolling.

[C]

I have no choice.

[B]

You have the baddest of bad bunnies. Energizer Bad bunnies.

[C]

Thank you very much. Well done. So I do wanna. I know it's Tuesday, but I do wanna start with the super bowl because we didn't really unpack it a ton on Garage Logic. And I don't wanna talk about the game. I just wanna talk about kind. Keep this in mind. I love football. You love. I absolutely. In fact, a couple of weeks ago. Because my oldest son is a die hard Buffalo Bills fan. Well, I should say he's a Josh Allen fan, which makes him a diehard Buffalo Bills fan. So we watched the Bills Broncos game and we had a great. So I love just the playoff. Football is the best. Can I be honest? The super bowl doesn't really do a whole lot for me.

[B]

It was a boring, boring Super Bowl.

[C]

Not only was it a boring game, but it takes forever. I have always contended. I've been saying this for 20 some years. Give me championship Sunday. 10 out of 10 times over the Super bowl, the two, the AFC, the NFC, that day is 50,000 times better than the super bowl for me. It just is.

[B]

Yeah, the super bowl is a bunch of pageantry.

[C]

It really is. Okay, so I didn't. I told you I wanted to talk about Sam Darnold.

[B]

Okay, I know him.

[C]

But did you see the Sam Darnold related story?

[B]

Which one?

[C]

Okay, so Sam Darnold, former Viking quarterback, goes to Seattle in his very first year. And of course, because we're the most cursed franchise in the history of sports.

[B]

We give Him a favor.

[C]

He wins the super bowl his first year away from the Vikings. The Super Bowl, Mike, was played in Santa Clara, California, the home of your San Francisco 49ers.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Each player associated with the team makes a bonus associated with their game. Check. So the winning team makes this amount. The losing team makes that amount because of the taxes. I did see that in the state of California. This is. When I saw it, I thought, okay, this has got to be a bit. Sam Darnold lost money playing in that game on Sunday, which.

[B]

71,000 bucks, which he probably said, what.

[C]

The hell do I care?

[B]

So if you play in the state of California, and they were there for eight days.

[C]

Yes. So what happened is between practices and all immediate appearances accumulated. Right.

[B]

They had to pay more that he actually lost $71,000 to play in the Super Bowl. Of course he'll make someone. You know what I've heard, too, is people, a bunch of pro golfers are saying, we're not playing at pebble beach anymore. We're not doing it because a huge percent they get charged.

[C]

It costs us money.

[B]

You know, California taxes. When they win a $10 million prize, they have to give 2 million of it to. Well, not 2 million, whatever it is, to the state of California. And they're like, we're not doing this anymore. We don't want to have tournaments in this place. And I don't blame them. What a screw that is. They have. Oh, by the way, they have to pay it in Minnesota, too.

[C]

Oh, for sure. Yeah.

[B]

But a whole bunch of states, they don't.

[C]

So I want to go down that particular route later. But I just thought, okay, well, we're here, so why not. Because you saw the news on Facebook, Meta owner Mark Zuckerberg, you know, he's a big, dyed in the wool lefty, a big, mysterious big on all these causes associated with the left. Well, he just bought a place in Florida because of the new billionaire tax that took place or took effect on January 1st. They're all hypocrites.

[B]

I don't blame them. I don't blame them for running. It's a tough thing in today's world. Okay, let me ask you this.

[C]

Go ahead.

[B]

In today's world, is it easier to say, I'm a Democrat, I love everybody, and you know, I want to do all this stuff and let's be a Democrat. Or is it harder to say I'm conservative or middle of the road? Like, all you're gonna get, all you do when you say you're conservative? Middle of the Road is someone's gonna yell at you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

If you're on the left, people are. Stars are gonna praise you. And a few of us, a few of us middle of the roaders are gonna say, is he really a Democrat?

[C]

You have to look this up. I should have sent it to you. And I forgot to. And I don't know exactly when this conversation took place, but Adam Carolla was talking to Bill Maher. I don't know if it was on Bill Maher's show or Adam Carolla's show, but they were just having a conversation. And Bill Maher has been a lefty, but has basically not turned on the party, but has turned on the nonsense.

[B]

He's getting red pilled pretty quickly.

[C]

But the thing is, their whole conversation was about, just because I don't go along with the left's insanity, that doesn't make me a conservative. Just like if I'm not all the way, like, whatever happened, he laid this out perfectly. I don't necessarily agree with everything Bill Maher has to say, but he makes a lot of really good, solid points. And I think he's a really smart guy.

[B]

So what was he saying?

[C]

He basically said, why are we labeled as conservative? And Adam Carillo said, has anyone ever checked my voting history? Like, are you kidding me? He goes, just because I don't. And he went down the trans. Just because I think a grown man in a dress shouldn't be in a women's bathroom, that doesn't make me a Donald Trump right wing nutcase.

[B]

It makes you a Clinton Democrat.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And a Clinton Democrat is Bill Clinton. Yeah, Bill Clinton Democrat. Which makes you a Republican nowadays.

[C]

Well, it's just it. But it's almost like we have just. We've had to associate ourselves with a tribe. And Bill Maher laid this out perfectly, said we've lost the middle ground. We've lost the ability to have any nuance with any conversation whatsoever. And I think that's probably where what, 65 to 80% of most of us live, like kind of in the middle, not on the lunatic fringe of either side. I think that's where a lot of us live.

[B]

Do you think Bill Maher will be able to be handled, will handle it being red pilled? So I have an aunt who went to see him give a speech here, and she just loves him and she's far left and he's far left. And now that he's moving into the middle, do you think people like my aunt are gonna say, you know, I see that he has some really Good points. Or are they gonna. Him on fire? The left often lights people on fire when they leave. So does the right. Right does it too. But they're going to hate him. Just like selling out.

[C]

He's still really popular. He's still got.

[B]

He's popular with the middle now. Right. He's more popular with the middle because somebody like myself say, yeah, I understand your point, or I don't agree with it. I might agree. Oh, you're willing to look at both sides. That's pretty cool.

[C]

How dare you?

[B]

How dare you not have a side tattooed across your chest. I don't remember the last show that we talked. We talked that lawsuit of that transgender woman named Fox. Her first name was Fox, and she had had her breast removed. And then she sued one.

[C]

$2 million. Yes, yes. Okay.

[B]

One week killed the transgender movement. One lawsuit. And in one week, because the now the medical society said, you know what? We don't think we should perform these surgeries on people under 18. So now it's not an approved medical thing anymore. And so it stopped the whole transgender.

[C]

Movement in one lawsuit because it's gonna be the first of what probably many.

[B]

It's gonna be the first of many, many, many lawsuits because they're lining up. And now they know the answer to win. Right. But the American Medical Society. I'm making that up. Said, you know what? In retrospect, we think it might not be a good idea to cut off perfectly working appendages of children under 18.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, the audacity and balls on these people. Balls is a funny thing because they were willing to destroy children's lives potentially, Potentially.

[C]

For the sake of virtue signaling.

[B]

For the sake of virtue signaling and money. But it was really money. Because as soon as the money's gone, now they're like, you know, in second thought, maybe we shouldn't cut off a perfectly fair pair of breasts on a 14 year old. It's when I heard that they changed that when one week after that, someone had to go and say, hey, we can't do this anymore. We don't want to get sued.

[C]

Well, okay, so we did venture quite a distance. No, that's okay. That's okay. Because it's gonna. It's. We'll circle the wagon.

[B]

Circle back is what they say.

[C]

But I was also wondering about ad money. And actually, you know what? Let's do this before I get to ad money, because there's a couple.

[B]

Run an ad. We should run an ad.

[C]

How about taxes? How about Linda Keller.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

@Kellertaxservice.Com we really were. Okay, let's do it. You know what? If you are in the great state of California, Linda Keller's got your back. I gotta share with you this because I did not know this until Linda Keller sent this to me yesterday morning. She said, hey, ravers, I just want to let you know that I've already had a huge response from returning and new Glers and Weekly Scramble listeners. So thank you very much. I also wanted to give a tax tip to you and all the listeners that for the next three years through 2028, you can make up to $25,000 in tips per year, tax free. I did not know that. She said, that's right. Bartenders, servers, Uber Lyft drivers, tip delivery drivers. Anyone who makes tips need a side hustle. Tip income would be first on my list. Linda Keller, that's why you're the absolute best. She's been doing my taxes for a number of years now. In fact, I have my tax packet in my backpack. I forgot to put it in the mail down in the mailroom before I walked up to the studio today. But get on the schedule because we're already, what, we're gonna be halfway through February here next week. You gotta get on the schedule and get your appointment booked. And you know what? She handles all types of returns for all types of people and all types of businesses. By the way, kellertaxservice.com go on that website. You can see all sorts of updated tax information as well. Linda Keller is the absolute best. And she's a loyal listener of both the Weekly Scramble podcast and also garagelogic. Let her know that Reavers Fratelloni sent you her way. The Weekly Scramble. We will be right back. All right, so one of the things that I found interesting was ad money is always a big deal when it comes to the super bowl, right?

[B]

It's the only thing that the only reason we played the super bowl is.

[C]

For the ad money, pretty much. And so I'm curious, did you happen to see the Ring commercial that appeared? I don't exactly remember when it appeared, but it appeared at some point during the Super Bowl.

[B]

I'm going to tell you Reavers, I had an epiphany moment. What I realized is I'm a 55 year old man and I don't give two shits. I mean, I literally cannot care less about advertising, all right? And I don't care that it's played in the middle of the Super Bowl. They're trying to just. And I Advertise. I get it. We advertise. I get it. Like, we do it, but I just don't need to watch them. I don't need to. I'm an adult man. I can stand up. You know, for me to take a pee takes three to four minutes now. So I can get up, go take a three or four minute piss. Right.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And then come back. And miss the ring camera thing. But I actually, I was kind of pissed how much people talk about advertising. Why are we so stupid? It's an ad. They're trying to sell us stuff.

[C]

It's because the super bowl appeals to so many people that aren't football fans.

[B]

Okay, so what did this awesome ring ad?

[C]

No, it wasn't awesome. So John Height and I actually got into a. Not a fight, but an argument about this. Because you could take John Height, by the way. Oh, 100%. But I never would because I love Johnny. So because John is a ring. He has the ring camera.

[B]

Same thing. I got some too.

[C]

And so basically, here's how the commercial set up. This family loses their dog. The family dog. The door opened, the family dog took off. Oh, my goodness. So they're posting up the lost dog. If found, call this number. And they're posting these signs all over. All over town, like we all would do if we lost a pet. Right? We would absolutely do that. And so then that then pans to a guy. So this is family. Mom, dad, the kids, they're all, you know, and the kids are probably like preteen, teenage age, whatever.

[B]

Is it a white mom and a white dad or a black mom and a.

[C]

It was a white. It was a white family. No way.

[B]

No way.

[C]

I think it was. Okay. I'm willing to be corrected by my shocker.

[B]

I don't really care what they are. I was just pointing out the irony of no.

[C]

Then it gets to, dude, 40 year old dude.

[B]

Sure. What's he doing?

[C]

He finds the dog. Oh, he then turns his phone on.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And is able to locate via wi fi and technology, various ring cameras around the neighborhood where the dog was coming from, as to where the dog hailed from. Sure. And everyone's like, oh, you know, the reaction was, oh, is everyone not paying attention? This is the most terrifying thing I've ever seen in my life. Either a chip or something. But that should have terrified everybody.

[B]

So you can put that on other things. You could put that on people. You could put that on spouses, cars.

[C]

But John's contention was, you can opt out of that program. And I said, john, you're not paying attention. The technology exists.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Just because you opt out of it, Ring still possesses that information.

[B]

Still there. Exactly.

[C]

Just like, again, I have one in my home, the Alexa. I always unplug the Alexa.

[B]

I think that's so cute that you do that.

[C]

Because it's listening to you. What?

[B]

It hears you cry at night. It hears you scream at the tv. It doesn't care. It doesn't care that. It doesn't care that you're mad that the Timberwolves lost.

[C]

I'm just saying. I think that we are vastly underestimating how much the devices are listening to us.

[B]

Give you a really great example. So they have this new hands free tsa, right, where you don't have to show them anything. You just walk up and take a picture of your face.

[C]

Oh, sure.

[B]

And one of my buddies said, well, they got a picture of your face. And I was like, yeah, they also have one on your driver's license.

[C]

It really.

[B]

We're gone. It's gone. Our freedom is gone. Right? There is not a day that biometrics can't catch us at this point. Right. That's why I find that Savannah Guthrie story so weird.

[C]

Oh, it is weird.

[B]

The poor mom that's missing and captured or whoever knows where she is. Ring cameras must have caught something in that neighborhood.

[C]

They did, actually. They released a photo this morning.

[B]

They did?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

It was a potential suspect in that particular case.

[B]

So Ring and all these other camera system are all just watching us get on board. Just accept it.

[C]

Nope.

[B]

I wish you could opt out. I wish you truly could opt out.

[C]

You're right. I might be a bit of a hypocrite because one of my favorite things to watch on social media are the porch pirates getting the boxes exploded in their car or whatever. Those are the best.

[B]

My favorite is you just. You pack up all your dog poop and you just put it in a new box and you pack it all up and leave it on your doorstep. So they come pick it up and then they open it up and it's your dog's poop.

[C]

And I like that. So many of those are staged. And you can kind of tell when some of them are staged, but it does make you feel good. My favorite is there's one where a heavyset gal is walking up and stealing a package, and as she's running to the car, he specifically waits for her to get inside the car. And you just see pink glitter and everything, like, inside the car. And you hear her scream, I will bleep and sue your Ass. Okay, go ahead.

[B]

Go for it.

[C]

Go ahead. You're in my driveway.

[B]

Yeah. You're in my driveway stealing packages from my.

[C]

From my house.

[B]

Anyway, okay, so you guys, did you talk Bad Bunny a little bit.

[C]

Here's I guess what I want to say about Bad Bunny. I realized halftime showed the Super Bowl. I realized a few years ago that I get it. The super bowl halftime really isn't marketing marketed to me anymore, which is fine. I mean, I know a couple of Bad Bunny songs. I know a couple Kendrick Lamar song. Not. I couldn't name them, but when I heard, I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember. Well, keep in mind, I worked at a nightclub for seven years, right? So I've heard a lot of that crap. But again, was it entertaining? Sure, that was entertaining. I didn't understand a word he was saying. It was produced. Well, it was very. Yeah, the production quality was off the church. And listen, just because I might not be a particular fan of something like music or whatever, doesn't mean I'm going to rip it. Because he's a huge deal. I get that. And he has now 65 million bucks.

[B]

Last year is what he.

[C]

Wow. And I do know, like, just because of his appearance at the super bowl, because Johnny Hyde had this earlier today. He has now the top six songs on Spotify right now. So he's. Did he get money to pay to play the Super Bowl? But he's going to reap the rewards from it.

[B]

So one thing that I think is interesting is everyone's complaining that you couldn't understand him. He was speaking Spanish. And then I said, well, Kendrick Lamar in 2025 Super Bowl. Did anyone understand a word he said? I remember listening to him as he was walking, kind of looking cool. And I turned to my family and said, I don't know one word he's saying. I don't know one word he's saying. And it was more embarrassing because he was speaking English and I should have caught some of those words. The only one that I got is a minor when he said that Drake was molesting Shaw or whatever at that part I got. Because I remember that from the song. But I do think there's a theory that you may not know, because I just developed this theory a couple minutes ago.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Someone said to Bad Bunny, Bad Bunny, would you like to play the halftime show of the super bowl, the biggest football game in the world? And he from Puerto Rico said, football, I know what football is. I'm a big fan of the football. So he went to do the Super Bowl. I bet you he didn't even know.

[C]

Thinking it was soccer.

[B]

It was an American football game. He was thinking it was soccer. So he's like, oh, crap, I'm just gonna do this all in Espanola because I don't know anything else. And he speaks English, by the way. Perfectly. He speaks English. And I wish he would have just done one song with a little bit of English because I might like him. I think he seems nice. Seems like a talented guy. It was a little political, but not overly political.

[C]

Well, that's the part I get. I just don't understand. Because anyone that thinks that one of the biggest events of the calendar year, which is the super bowl, if you don't think that there's going to be some type of underlying messaging, well, you're fooling yourself. What I don't get is how someone can work up the outrage over something so absolutely inconsequential. Who cares? Who gives a damn?

[B]

So would you rather have it be open, overly political or nipple gate?

[C]

Oh, nipple gate.

[B]

I'm gonna take a nipple gate. 100 times out of 100. I got girls. In fact, cover their eyes. I can just say, girls, it's a nipple.

[C]

Get over it. That was. Was that 03?

[B]

How long ago was Jackson, Justin Timberlake? I don't know, 2002, 2003.

[C]

Somewhere in there. Anyway, because I was at a Super bowl party and there was a bunch of us, right? And of course we rewound. No way that just happened. Yes, no way that that just happened. Right. So we had a. Did we have like Tevo and all that crap back then?

[B]

We probably had Tevo then.

[C]

Yeah, I think we had Tevo back then. But anyway, we gotta see it again. We gotta see it again. We gotta see it again. But I was going, oh, what?

[B]

Let me look that up.

[C]

Okay. Did you know this about the trees associated with the halftime show?

[B]

Tell me.

[C]

So at first you thought, oh, those are kinda cool. Then we found out there were actually people inside the trees that were being paid to be there. Each person was paid 18 something an hour, and each person ended up making about 1,400 bucks. Because, you know, takes a long time. A couple of days leading up to it. You gotta go through all of the routine and all that crap. So they all ended up making about 1400 bucks.

[B]

That was a lot of people. There's been many a meme coming up saying, you know, they're afraid ice is outside in the stadium, so they're just hiding in the bushes. Like, that's Pretty good. That was not bad. I mean, if you're gonna make a joke about ice destroying our city, go ahead and do that. Nipplegate was in Super Bowl 38 in 2004. Do you remember what stadium it was played at?

[C]

Hold on, hold on. Okay, so the 03 season, the 2004 Super bowl, was that New England and Carolina?

[B]

Great question. 2004, it was in Houston, Texas.

[C]

Houston, Texas.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Let me.

[B]

Let me see. Let me see. Do you remember what nipple it was?

[C]

I believe it was the. Wait, I'm trying to remember, because it was his left hand. Was it the right nipple?

[B]

It was the right nipple, yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

You know, boy, when you look up Nipple gate online, it doesn't mention the game, even at all. Oh, that's kind of funny.

[C]

I'll find out who it was because I'm almost paused. That was 22 years ago. God, we're getting old. Yeah.

[B]

And it still is Nipple Gate. And I wonder. Okay, so our demographic of this show is guys my age, right? Not even your age. You know, some your age.

[C]

Oh, sure.

[B]

Yeah. I guess.

[C]

Like 30 to not even guys. Yeah, we got gals that listen to us.

[B]

When I say guys, I use that as a generic term.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

Humans from, like, 30 up.

[C]

Right, gotcha.

[B]

I wonder how many of them, if we said the word nipple gate, would it be able to say 2004? Houston, Texas.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Breast of Janet Jackson, Justin Timberlake pulled off the thing. We all got a.

[C]

My ability to retain absolutely useless information is quite astounding.

[B]

You know what?

[C]

You 100%.

[A]

No.

[B]

Let me just check. See who played in Super Bowl 38. It looked like the Patriots and Tom Brady against Carolina Panthers.

[C]

Wow. I did get it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

All right.

[B]

That is weird that you remember that stuff.

[C]

I know.

[B]

I've been to Super Bowls and I don't remember who played in them. And I've been to the stadium. Right inside.

[C]

I was in Houston and left at halftime. I did think before Lady Gaga repelled.

[B]

From the ceiling and comeback of. The biggest comeback in the history of.

[C]

Any super bowl that I saw wonderfully from my hotel room.

[B]

God, I still believe that.

[C]

Where the bud lights weren't $18.

[B]

I'm excited for Bad Bunny. He's Puerto Rican. First of all, we can take him, right?

[C]

He's one of ours.

[B]

Yeah, because he's one of us.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

And when he did that thing at the end where he said, we're all Americans, it's like, yeah, we're all from north and South America. Right. Central. South America. We're all from the Americas. And I'm willing to take him because he is Puerto Rican. He's a talented guy making 65 million. What we need is him to live in a liberal state like California, Minnesota. He could move here, pay some damn taxes.

[C]

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[B]

Have you tried the dill pickle?

[C]

Oh, my God, they're so good.

[B]

Those were good. We carry those now. I thought that was a state fair only thing.

[C]

Oh, it's year round now.

[B]

Yes, year round. You know what? People really like these. We've been selling a lot of them. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it is kind of cool. That's one thing. I'm gonna throw this plug out for Fraterloni's because I think we did something really smart. We took a huge amount of their skus. So people are coming in not just buying one thing, they're buying a bunch of the different things. And you're the big cherry. What was that cherry mix thing you had?

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Like the granola cherry mix. Super delicious. So if you try that at Fradolones or if you go into another store and they don't have it, if you go into Coburn, ask for it. Ask for it? Yes, ask for it and say, hey, I'm buying this stuff. I love it.

[C]

Yeah. Fantastic. WeAreNutSMN.com, the weekly scramble. We will be right back. All right. I had to bring up one other thing because Epstein files. No. God, I do not want to talk about that in any way. Can I tell you honestly why?

[B]

Because it's so scary.

[C]

It's so scary, and some of the stuff is so disturbing. And it's not that I don't want to find a way to help those that were struck by this enormous tragedy to find peace in their life, but I have a hard time reading this stuff because it's the innocent of the innocent that were preyed upon. And it's just so. It's way above my pay grade.

[B]

One thing that I never understood about it, and I know we're not going to really talk about Epstein files, but we should do this for about four hours, because it's a fascinating story, is the victims have signed contracts, right, Saying they can't talk. They were paid, and they signed contracts saying they can't speak. But Elon Musk, he has a couple of dollars, said if anyone breaks that contract and wants to tell the story and name names, he'll cover all of your legal expenses. And I wish someone would, because I find it weird that someone didn't say, no, this person was here. This person was here. This person was here.

[C]

I have a feeling, though, Michael. And again, I don't want to get.

[B]

I'm afraid of being dead.

[C]

This is way above money that I think that they fear if I start talking, I'm gonna be dead.

[B]

And it's honest to God, because we're.

[C]

Talking about some of the most powerful people in the world.

[B]

In the world.

[C]

Tied to this story.

[B]

The money that they break down that Jeffrey Epstein had because before the 08 financial crisis, he had a huge company that worked with Bear Stern, shut it down right before the crisis, and then after the crisis, moved to Morgan Stanley or one of those guys, right? It was so weird and so convoluted. The stories are so convoluted. One of the biggest ones that I heard that I found really interesting is in the documents for Jeffrey Epstein. They accidentally didn't redact his Fortnite name from Fortnite. His gamer name from Fortnite, right? So it's there. So someone said, hey, I wonder if anyone uses that Fortnite name anymore. And since his death, it's been used in Israel.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And then so I hear this big story that, hey, that's actually debunked. It's not really real. Someone's using it, but someone just changed their name and changed it to this. And that's why it's happening in Israel. And then a bunch of Fortnite people said, timeout. You can't actually change a name like that. So that account had to have his passwords or be somehow related to him to continue playing Fortnight From Israel. How, if that has one ounce of truth to it, I find this story so freaking fascinating. It's such a convoluted story. It's shocking.

[C]

And I don't know at what point I got to this particular spot, but I got to a point, and it was after I started working here and after consuming news to the degree that we do. Nothing ever surprises me anymore. I mean, literally nothing surprises me anymore. On any level.

[B]

On any level. This whole Pizzagate thing, right? You've heard about Pizzagate. Remember Pizzagate? About 10 years ago, if you don't remember the story, a guy went into a pizza place in D.C. a kid's pizza place, a restaurant that had really weird Instagram posts, like taping a kid to a table. Like, really weird kind of Instagram posts. And he brought that because he had heard that people were eating children or molesting children there, and he wanted to stop. And he gets there and he says, oh, my God, I can't believe this. Strangely enough, that guy was just murdered. I don't know if you heard that.

[C]

Yes, I did.

[B]

That guy was just murdered. So he tells this story about pizza, and there's a big thing, and I guess in the child molestation business that. That you talk about cheese pizza and grape soda. Have you heard of that?

[C]

No.

[B]

So they use this. They use the words like, hey, would you like to have some cheese pizza today? Right.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Would you like to get some grape soda? Which is something I've never said to anybody. I've never said to you. I might say, do you want to go get pizza? But I've never said, would you like to get some cheese pizza? Over a thousand times in those 3 million documents that were released, over a thousand times, the words cheese pizza have been written down. I've never in my life as an adult man said to somebody, hey, it's great seeing you. I'd like to hang out again. It's really cool. Would you like to go get. Let me know the next time you want to get cheese pizza and grape soda. That doesn't make sense. That does. What does that mean? What does it mean?

[C]

And I'm not saying, honestly, I don't want to know what that means.

[B]

I find it. So there was a urologist, Jeffrey Epstein's Urologist, right. Jeffrey said, hey, I need a prescription for this enhancer, right? Erectile dysfunction drug. The urologist says, hey, I gave you 100 milligrams. It's this. It's gonna be at the drugstore. They bounce back and forth saying, hey, they don't have it. And he said, call now. It's there. And he goes, when you get all done and you take the drug, wash your hands and I'll meet you for some cheese pizza and grape soda. That urologist is still alive. That guy's around. Did somebody is who is going to. Nick Shirley. Nick Shirley needs to drive over to that urologist's office.

[C]

Oh, no.

[B]

Go in there, put a camera in his face and say, what did you mean when you said, I'll meet you for some cheese pizza and some grape soda? Jeffrey Epstein, after you've taken your erectile dysfunction medicine, what does that mean?

[C]

And I think he would answer, no.

[B]

But if he thinks, who's not? Why aren't people asking these questions?

[C]

I think the reason people aren't necessarily pursuing this to the degree that we probably should be is because of the people associated with this story.

[B]

But if you're a urologist, are you also a child molester?

[C]

But, Mike, at the same time, think about how many people in the medical profession are doing things that they shouldn't be.

[B]

Okay. You know, totally agree with you. Totally agree with you. A thousand times someone said, let's get cheese pizza and grape soda.

[C]

I guess. I don't know.

[B]

That is a weird. And I'm sure some of it were like, hey, what'd you have at your party? Oh, we had a pizza party. We had pizza and whatever. Right? I'm sure that's it. But I don't think I've ever written cheese pizza in an email in my entire life. My wife might send me a thing saying, hey, pick up pizza tonight. But to say cheese pizza and grape soda, and that's a known child molestation vernacular. I find this like, I love that.

[C]

We said we weren't going to talk about this and then talked about it for 10 years.

[B]

Another thing, too. They sent out PDFs, right? Sure, they sent out PDFs, and then some simple tech guy said, if you take the dot PDF off and you put dot mov, it starts playing the movie version of that. Like, well, wait, what? So these aren't even protected. This was an actual link that can play a movie. Is anybody dumb enough to allow that to happen? And they're like, yeah, you shouldn't really do it. So Anybody who was blacked out in that PDF is not blacked out in the movie or redacted in the movie. This is. I wish Joe would jump on this story and talk about it for five days straight, because when you start to learn about his background and who he's intertwined with and who he knows and the people that he knows, and the emails from Elon Musk saying, hey, I'd really like to party with you, and I don't want to do just a standard party. I need to relax. We need to have a party party. And then it was a bunch of emails saying, we just can't get this together. They never happened to get. Because they just didn't have time to do it. Right. He just didn't have the time. It is. I know you have another story, but, folks, if you're not jumping down this Epstein tinfoil hat, which I almost don't believe it's tinfoil hat anymore, and I'm sure part of the stories that I just told you are all bs.

[C]

Well, some of them aren't. Some of the thing, too, is you gotta be so selective with that, because, you know, Joe will bring it up on occasion, but for me, I try. I don't need any help not sleeping at night. So that's one of the reasons why I probably tried to avoid that story basically, at all costs, I guess, to answer your question.

[B]

Well, I'm glad you can live with it, because I just can. I can't live with this. Thought of this guy had a bunch of these other people, and now five days ago, the people are reopening the Pizzagate conspiracy, right? That from so many years ago.

[C]

I don't doubt for a second, by the way, that there's a chance that he's still alive. I don't doubt that for a bit.

[B]

Would he be dumb enough to use his Fortnite account? Did he play Fortnight? I have no idea in his paperwork that he had a Fortnight account.

[C]

But there's also, you know, you're never gonna be. You're never gonna be able to prove right or wrong that any of this actually exists anyway, because there's always gonna be skeptics and there's always gonna be people that. That refuse to believe the truth. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah. And I don't.

[C]

They.

[B]

They said there's 3 million documents that they just released. They could have up to 3 million more, which seems like a lot of documents. And I just don't know. I mean, I can see when they say it takes a little while to redact these 3 million documents might take.

[C]

That's a lot.

[B]

A little bit of time. Especially if you have to have more than one person put eyes on it. It's disgusting. Do you have another story or we.

[C]

I'm good. No, I'm good.

[B]

You know what I did hear, though, is that Woody Allen was in the Epstein files.

[C]

Oh, God.

[B]

I couldn't believe it. Reverse. You know, I know he's not a saint, but I can't imagine he would cheat on his daughter like that.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

That's a horrible joke. He is a horrible person.

[C]

How.

[B]

How do we still talk about Woody Allen? With respect.

[C]

It is shocking. I've asked that over and over again.

[B]

So he Dutton made some great movies. That's it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Little weirdo. Thank you, Michael Reivers. You are the best. You are no Woody Allen. You are the best.

[C]

Thank you, sir. Please do us a favor. Rate and review the show wherever you happen to be listening to the weekly Scramble podcast. It helps others find the show, and it helps us out as well. And we appreciate each and every single one of you. His name is Mike Fratelloni. My name is Chris Reivers. Thank you so very much for listening to the weekly Scramble podcast. We'll talk to you next time. Until then, cheers.