SCRAMBLE: Seattle and New York are both on the fast track free fall to complete financial ruin

Summary

Garage Logic: Weekly Scramble Podcast — Episode Summary (March 12, 2026)
Episode Title: SCRAMBLE: Seattle and New York are both on the fast track free fall to complete financial ruin
Hosts: Chris Reivers & Mike Fratelloni
Podcast Network: Gamut Podcast Network

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Overview

In this episode of Garage Logic's Weekly Scramble, Chris Reivers and Mike Fratelloni tackle the increasingly precarious financial situations in Seattle and New York, examining misguided government interventions, controversial tax policies, and the practical fallout of “progressive” leadership in both cities. Interwoven through their signature blend of humor, Midwest sensibility, and occasional tangents, the conversation also covers topics like oil prices, grocery store economics, and even a bizarre fishing tournament scandal. The tone remains conversational, slightly irreverent, but rooted in a core concern for common sense and the “80% in the middle.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Show Banter & Improv Magic [01:49–05:33]

• Reivers and Fratelloni share a laugh about a previous Garage Logic episode where “Rookie” shined in an unscripted improvised segment about a fake product, “Rust On.”
  • Fratelloni: “He's a fly by the seat of his pants kind of guy.” [04:32]
  • Reivers: “You cannot pre do anything with Matthew… He's one of the most brilliant impromptu actors I've ever seen.” [03:59, 04:35]
• Emphasize the show's value in spontaneous, unrehearsed conversation—a thread throughout the episode.

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2. Oil Prices & National Anxiety [05:34–12:11]

• Discussion turns to recent oil price spikes, media hype, and historical context:
  • Fratelloni: Tries to “crotch the middle,” distancing himself from partisan extremes, and breaks down how oil price spikes are cyclical.
    • “Back during the Biden administration, there was a little war...It drove oil prices to about $120 a gallon…Go all the way back to 2008, oil prices hit $147 per barrel—if you adjust for inflation, that's like $230 a barrel today.” [06:53–08:31]
    • “Calm down. We have a chance to finish off dictatorships that are holding ... people under their thumb.” [08:41]
  • Reivers: Recalls anxiety post-9/11 and how some gas stations exploited panic.
    • “....Gas was $4.25 a gallon. I thought, ‘Oh my God, it's already happening.’” [09:49]
• Both hosts urge listeners to avoid panic, contextualize headlines, and consider the long view over reactive politics:
  • Fratelloni: “Calm down a little bit. Let's have a little bit more dollars in the cost of fuel for a couple of months. We've been through this before.” [08:45]

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3. Made in America — Icons & Identity [13:31–15:16]

• Fratelloni: Debates display of “Made in America” stickers in his stores, citing surprising pushback that some consumers may dislike American flags or domestic origin.
  • “There's a huge percentage of our population that doesn't like the flag and would not want to see product made in America.” [13:57]
• Reivers: Responds with disbelief, calling it a “scary thought and an unbelievably salient point.” [14:46]
• Fratelloni: Laments the polarized state of national pride, linking it back to divisive leadership: “A huge percentage…is not proud to be an American. And that's sad. That scares me a little bit.” [15:00]

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4. Seattle’s Socialist Experiment — Grocery Store Control [17:52–26:23]

Main Segment Theme: Seattle’s mayor proposes banning grocery stores from closing to uphold “food access as a human right.”

• Reivers: Explains that Seattle’s new socialist mayor, Katie Wilson, announced plans to unilaterally prevent grocery closures, arguing that “food access is a human right that overrides any type of business decisions.” [19:39]
• Fratelloni: Dissects razor-thin grocery store profit margins, skepticism about the city’s power to keep stores open, and possible unintended consequences.
  • “The average grocery store...has a return of, like, one[1.3]%. Right. It's just not a lot...” [20:55]
  • “For every $100, we keep $1.80. Grocery stores keep $1.03.” [21:20]
• Both mock the idea, with Pat Garofalo’s quote standing out:

  “Every once in a while an idea is so bad that I truly want to see it implemented just to watch it turn into an inferno of stupidity.” — Pat Garofalo (Recounted by Reivers) [19:57]

• Fratelloni: Acknowledges food deserts are real issues, but says government-mandated profit guarantees would be a questionable "solution."
• Reivers: Shares an anecdote about a local store forced to stock produce nobody bought—mandated policy leading to daily waste. [23:42]

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5. Empathy & the Limits of Privilege [24:29–26:23]

• Fratelloni offers an introspective moment:

  “I have to really, really force myself to feel what it would feel like to live in north Minneapolis, have no money in your checking account, have no form of transportation…It would suck if there's not a grocery store near me.” [25:30]

• Emphasizes the need for real-world understanding while rejecting top-down mandates that hurt business.

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6. New York City’s Leadership Crisis & Fiscal Woes [26:35–31:31]

• Reivers: Turns to New York, now led by a “Muslim socialist, communist” mayor, Zoran Mamdani, facing financial chaos.
  • The new budget director delays testimony on the budget crisis due to Ramadan fasting.
  • [28:02] Mark Levine, NYC Comptroller: “I want to be very careful that we don't do anything in our tax policy that would slow down this key sector that we need to pay for important progress for New Yorkers.”
• Fratelloni: Points out the tension of city government with a mayor hostile to Jewish policy and staff:

  “…Now you’re serving for a mayor who does not like Jews. No, he makes it really clear that he does not like Jews or their policies in the Middle East.” [29:53]

• Reivers notes friends leaving NYC due to the city’s deteriorating conditions.

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7. High-Tax States Bleeding Wealth & Business [31:31–33:55]

• Discussion of the new “billionaire tax” in Washington State and similar proposals in New York, both driving wealthy individuals and major businesses to flee.
  • Reivers: “Starbucks’ Howard Schultz ... is moving from Seattle to Miami, and Starbucks Corp is gradually moving to Tennessee ... The rich are smart and ... just say, nope, kids, pack your s. We're out of here.” [32:05]
  • Fratelloni: “We already have this statewide tax here...That's why we have no billionaires left in Minnesota.” [32:57]
• The hosts lampoon policymakers for not anticipating these results, citing corporate flight as a direct outcome of punitive taxes.

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8. Fishing Tournament Scandal — Comic Relief [35:08–40:34]

• The mood lightens with a story about a Texas man, Curtis Lee Daniels, facing up to 10 years in prison for cheating in a largemouth bass fishing tournament (by stuffing fish with weights).
• Fratelloni: “My thought was, do we need to have laws that cover fishing tournaments, or should we just say, if a guy cheats ... everybody pull him aside and kick his ass?” [38:05]
• Reivers: Jokes about prison pecking order:

  “What are you in for, buddy? ... I stuck some metal weights inside of a largemouth bass. ... You’re in here with us? Really?” [39:18–39:56]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Oil Prices:
  “Calm down. We have a chance to finish off dictatorships... Calm down a little bit. Let’s have a little bit more dollars in the cost of fuel for a couple of months. We've been through this before.” — Mike Fratelloni [08:41]
• On Seattle's Mayor's Grocery Plan:
  “Every once in a while an idea is so bad that I truly want to see it implemented just to watch it turn into an inferno of stupidity.” — Pat Garofalo (via Chris Reivers) [19:57]
• On Privilege & Policy:
  “I have to really, really force myself to feel what it would feel like to live in north Minneapolis, have no money in your checking account, have no form of transportation…It would suck if there’s not a grocery store near me.” — Mike Fratelloni [25:30]
• On NYC’s Budget Crisis:
  “Sorry that the city is currently on fire right now...but I can't talk right now. I'm fasting for Ramadan.” — Chris Reivers [28:43]
• On Tax Flight:
  “The rich are smart and ... just say, nope, kids, pack your s. We're out of here.” — Chris Reivers [32:05]
• On Fishing Tournament Law:
  “You're in here with us? Really? We're in the same joint?” — Chris Reivers [39:56]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Show Opener & Improv Banter: [01:49–05:33]
• Oil Prices & Historical Context: [05:34–12:11]
• Made in America Debate: [13:31–15:16]
• Seattle Grocery Store Mandate/Ideology: [17:52–26:23]
• NYC Budget Crisis & Socialism in Cities: [26:35–31:31]
• Billionaire Tax & Corporate Exodus: [31:31–33:55]
• Competitive Fishing Scandal: [35:08–40:34]
• Comic Wrap-Up (Alexa Joke): [42:01–42:40]

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Concluding Sentiment & Tone

The episode is rich in skepticism toward “top-down” city policy initiatives from Seattle to New York, tempered with genuine empathy for the less privileged. Reivers and Fratelloni’s tone is consistently wry, striving for common-sense solutions and mocking the excesses of both political fringes. By grounding big policy questions in lived anecdote and practical wisdom, the episode is both informative and entertaining for those trying to make sense of America’s urban financial free-fall.

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“We have to, including me, you, Joe, and everybody on your show Garage Logic. We have to remember that it’s not easy. It’s not easy for everybody.” — Mike Fratelloni [25:44]

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Transcript

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[Chris Reivers]

That's right, it's time for the Weekly Scramble Podcast. My name is Chris Reivers. With me as always. His name is Mike Fredaloni. Hello, Michael.

[Mike Fratelloni]

How you doing, Reivers?

[Chris Reivers]

I'm doing well. Well, I'm doing well. I have so many things that I want to talk to you about today. I don't know. Where do you want to begin? Because I've got what you would call Like I mentioned on Tuesday, the potpourri aspect of our show is something that I love near and dear. But I can tell you're worked up about what we just talked about just

[Mike Fratelloni]

a minute or two. Something that I'm a little worked up about. One of our listeners Weekly Scramble listeners went ahead and wrote Joe a tattletale note about you liking Kristi Noem a little too much. I was like, how dare they listen to you pontificate about how beautiful she is. I Know that's not the right word, but I'm using it. And then go to tattle to Joe and say, joe, tell Reavers to stop it with that troll of a woman.

[Chris Reivers]

I gotta tell you, I. That was pretty funny, wasn't it? Yeah, very funny. And I'm glad you brought that up because I. I was talking to somebody very recently, someone that you and I know very well. And that woman had said to me, boy, just don't take a lot of this personally or something, like we're dealing with some business related things. And I said, come look at my inbox of my email.

[Mike Fratelloni]

People are yelling at me all day.

[Chris Reivers]

I don't take anything personally. I go on the air or on the show, I should say, I got to stop saying on the air. I go on the show and you know what? I give an opinion on something and you know what? Somebody's going to like it. Someone's going to hate it. And that's just. I don't care.

[Mike Fratelloni]

You guys had a good show yesterday.

[Chris Reivers]

Thank you.

[Mike Fratelloni]

It was pretty funny. And Rookie, when that rust on.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh my God.

[Mike Fratelloni]

When he just jumped to that rust on. And you set him up like, did you guys pre write that? Has Rookie ever pre written anything?

[Chris Reivers]

No. And do you know why I have the ability? Because I speak Rookie.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Sure.

[Chris Reivers]

Okay.

[Mike Fratelloni]

You know he's going to do something

[Chris Reivers]

good and Joe gets mad when I set him up for nonsense.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

But that was beautifully. I'm not, sorry, I'm not trying to pat myself on the back here, but I knew it was going to work. And here's why. You cannot pre do anything with Matthew.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

And again, I want this to come off the right way. No one loves Rookie more than me. He's my brother from another mother. I mean, I'm on the show because of him. I really am. Because I started to just help out and fill in and do whatever.

[Mike Fratelloni]

He wasn't able to run the board. And you would.

[Chris Reivers]

I were right. Exactly. And so. But I also know you can't. Before the show starts, you cannot pull Rookie aside and say, okay, I'm gonna bring this. Here's what I'm thinking. We're gonna talk about this, this, and I want you to come at it with that. No, you've gotta spring it on him.

[Mike Fratelloni]

He's a fly by the seat of his pants kind of guy.

[Chris Reivers]

He's one of the most brilliant impromptu actors I've ever seen. Sure. And I think I'm okay at it. He's infinitely better at it than I am.

[Mike Fratelloni]

He should have been an improv artist.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes. Oh, my God. Totally. Improv is the key to his success.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Well, he did a really good job. It was a great show, if you haven't seen it.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, you're right.

[Mike Fratelloni]

There was a great segment where they were talking about the patina of cars and how you developed a product called rust on. And then Matt went ahead or he developed that product and went ahead and told you all he did a one minute commercial for rust on how to get rust on cars.

[Chris Reivers]

Not what's the product you guys sell the rust oleum or rust off or whatever it's called. Yeah, it's not that product. It's to put rust on your vehicle to make it look nice.

[Mike Fratelloni]

What he didn't say is if you need rust, we can get you rust.

[Chris Reivers]

We'll deliver rust to you. He should have done the available at Fratelloni's hardware yard stores. Yeah, exactly.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Well, great show. That's what I wanted to say first and foremost because sometimes, sometimes you guys catch lightning in a bottle. And that was it yesterday.

[Chris Reivers]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And then we could talk about oil prices if you want to do that.

[Chris Reivers]

Let's. Do you know what? Let's dig into oil prices because I have something that I know is going to get you all worked up too. And I don't want to do that right now.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Do you want me to start with oil?

[Chris Reivers]

Let's start with oil because honestly, it is a topic right now and we have become such a divided nation, such a divided society on every single aspect. And I want to start with oil.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Well, I'm really trying to ride the middle the best I can. Right. 10% on the left, I don't get along with. 10% on the right, I don't get along with. There's 80% of us in the middle. I'm trying to fall. I'm trying to crotch the middle. Literally trying to just crotch it right, be down the middle. Because I want everyone's ideas right. And some are a little bit weirder than others. And again, I listen to a lot of a liberal radio, right? And a lot of conservative radio. But on the liberal radio, I've definitely heard people losing their minds about the price of oil. Like this was the largest one day increase. It went from 80 to 120 and then ended the day at 90 something. And they're just totally, totally losing their mind. So I said, well, has it never been to these prices before? Because the way people are talking about it made me believe, well, this has never happened in the history. So I went ahead and I did some research. Reverse.

[Chris Reivers]

Talk to me.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Just, you know, last week we hit $100, $120 a barrel of oil. And then it bounced down, dropped, I should say, to about 95. Right. Today it's roughly about 95. So back during the Biden administration, there was a little war that's still continuing, the Russian Ukraine war. And it drove oil prices to about $120 a gallon. I don't recall. Obviously you don't blame Joe Biden for that war. That's not Joe Biden's fault. Right. And I think everybody said it's not Joe Biden's fault. But I don't remember people saying this. End of the world, the hanger, the kid's toy, the doll that you're getting from China is going to be double the price. I didn't hear that kind of hyperbole. So I thought, where in the world does this happen to people? Or if you go all the way back to 2008, oil prices hit $147 per barrel in 2008. If you adjust for inflation, that's like $230 a barrel today. That happened to during the Bush administration. Right. And I thought, well, I remember there was an oil crisis in 2008. I remember that gas got expensive, but that was $230 a barrel. Right. We're sitting at about 90. Calm down. If gas needs to be 50 cents more for four more months and we kill dictator after dictator after dictator and we open up the Strait of Hormuz, which I don't even know. I know what. I'm not pretending that I know all the economic ramifications of that. I surely understand that. We don't want it closed. Calm down a little bit. Let's have a little bit more dollars in the cost of fuel for a couple of months. We've been through this before. This has happened to us before. Gas prices have been high before. Not even much higher than this as inflation dollar related, right? Calm down. We have a chance to finish off dictatorships that are holding 45 million people, 90 million people, 45 million women under their thumb. Calm down. We don't have to finish tomorrow. Let's finish when we're finished. And it's pissing me off that people are saying it's all about oil.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, what I always recall is in the waking moments of 9 11, and I was living on Cherokee Avenue in St. Paul, Minnesota. I had just moved to the Twin Cities. I had gotten an internship at a different radio station and 911 happened. And I remember driving home that day going, it just felt different. Right. And I remember, you know, listening to a radio show that had said it might have been Joe and Rook. I have no idea because I wasn't working here at that time. And I remember hearing all the gas prices, they're going to go up, they're going to go up, they're going to go up. And Again, this is 25 years ago. And I remember driving by a gas station in that neighborhood, not to name names, not to point anything out, and the gas was $4.25 a gallon.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I thought up from a buck 70 or something.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh my God, it's already happening. Well, those were people that were trying to seize the moment. Not in a good way, seize the moment in a bad way to basically it was a scare tactic.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I think they call that Carpadis screw em instead of seize the day. Carpe diem, carpe descril.

[Chris Reivers]

I like that.

[Mike Fratelloni]

You didn't have that.

[Chris Reivers]

That's not a bad one at all.

[Mike Fratelloni]

That was rookie esque.

[Chris Reivers]

And I remember thinking, well, that's happening and it's happening right now, by the way. It's. And the reason I'm saying that is someone on social media had posted. And this isn't just some random AI imagery. No, because it was posted on different sites. Where in California. Hold on, I just lost my photo. Gas prices are already $5 per gallon. Up above, there was a station just outside of San Francisco. A gallon of regular unleaded fuel. Michael. $8.21 a gallon. A gallon of premium was $8.25. Super premium was $8.29 a gallon. Those are people that are doing the same thing that that gas station I was referring to back in 2001 are doing.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yeah, yeah. During the Biden administration, I spent some time in San Diego at Coronado and they had $7.99 gas.

[Chris Reivers]

I love Coronado.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And I thought, screw you, California. Like, how would you like. And about $4. That is cost in California. Right, right. It didn't need to be $7.99. And I thought, who's driving a foot if gas? I'm going to tell you, I would quickly look at an electric car if gas was $7.99 a gallon.

[Chris Reivers]

But then you're going to spend how much money to charge your.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I get it. No, I get it. It's just moving the money to a different thing. I totally get that. But boy, $7.99 would be. Calm down. We have to calm down. It's 13 days or 14 days old, we've gone a long way. Every time a new head pops up there, we end up ripping the head off. Right. And I think, I think, I think someday we'll be able to visit Iran. Someday we'll be able to visit Venezuela. Someday we'll be able to visit Cuba. And someday, God willing, people will be able to visit Minneapolis. See what I did there?

[Chris Reivers]

Wow, that was a good line. I thought, wow, bravo.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And I love Minneapolis. I just, I find it like we have to be a little bit more patient as a society.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, and that's where I was gonna kind of go with that because that's the problem that so many of us are having right now. It's nothing can just be. You know, it doesn't matter what happens in the White House. Everyone's gonna lose their ever loving mind because Orange man bad. Nothing can come of it. Tariffs are bad. Okay. And there's some truth and validity to a lot of that. But there was a great story that I was reading just this morning that, and I'm just paraphrasing and it's going off the top of my head, but it was a great piece citing the fact that because of a certain tariff, there was an aluminum manufacturing company that is hiring at like $125,000 a year. These are all jobs that would have been outsourced to other countries, but because of this one particular tariff from President Trump, this manufacturing company is now flourishing and people are making a boatload of money in this country, which is, I think, what some of this is being designed to do. And again, is the short term good for? No, but you got to be looking at it long term. What is this going to do long term for Everybody?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Plan for 100 years from now?

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Right?

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Mike Fratelloni]

We can't plan for four days from now.

[Chris Reivers]

No. Because I'm too busy looking at TikTok.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Exactly. We take our news in 15 second segments. Let me ask you something.

[Chris Reivers]

Talk to me.

[Mike Fratelloni]

So in our stores we have many products made in the United States, right? So I thought let's put stickers on the bin tags that say like a little flag that said made in America. And I was bringing this out to people outside of our stores and they said, well, I don't know if that's going to work anymore. And I'm like, what do you mean that's not going to work? And he said, well, there's a huge percentage of our population that doesn't like the flag and would not want to see product made in America.

[Chris Reivers]

Are you kidding me?

[Mike Fratelloni]

And this guy was a consultant. Not for our company, just a consultant.

[Chris Reivers]

Neutral party.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yeah. He didn't really know our company at all. And I thought, what, like you And I don't know if he's not right. Do you think people would look at a thing and say, hey, like the aluminum can that they're making with these, you know, if my Coca Cola came and it said aluminum can made and printed in America, I'd be happy. But would other people say you're taking jobs away from. I mean, I just don't know. I don't know if that is. I do believe, because I sit. I crotch the middle, right? That's my new line. I'm crotch in the middle. Not terribly comfortable crotch in the middle, by the way. But I. I'm crouching the middle. I think people on the far sides, the far left particularly, might not love that.

[Chris Reivers]

Wow, that's a great point.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yeah, not a great point.

[Chris Reivers]

It's a scary thought and an unbelievably salient point.

[Mike Fratelloni]

People don't seem, because of our president that we have right now. And I'm just gonna say this. He is so divisive, so narcissistic, such a aggressive dude. I like things about him, but I also think he's kind of nuts. Right? Because he is so is what he is. That people are not proud of America at the moment. A huge percentage, not 3% of the population, 40% of the population, is not proud to be an American. And that's sad. That scares me a little bit.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

Yeah, you live in a world that only allows you seven or eight.

[Chris Reivers]

That's just it. I wanna eat a lot of jumbo cashews.

[Mike Fratelloni]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

Really?

[Chris Reivers]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

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[Chris Reivers]

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Grocery Outlet Bargain market I ran out of breath. Sorry about that. Hey, I gotta. I got something for you. You ready? You know Pat Garofalo? I do. He's one of the one. Well he's. You know what he is? He's just a dude. Sure. Lifelong Minnesotan. One lucky dude. Former state legislator and his Twitter account, if you're not following him. He's hilarious. He's very, very funny. Very very smart. And he fills in for Joe on occasion. He's great. Let's Head to Seattle, shall we? You love Seattle?

[Mike Fratelloni]

I love it. Beautiful town.

[Chris Reivers]

Seattle has a new mayor. Her name is Katie Wilson and she is a self proclaimed socialist Democrat in Seattle.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

Don't mind the fact that she still lives at her parents house. That's okay.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Okay. Okay. We won't think that's a big deal. Well, her parents are ill so she's taking care of them. Maybe, maybe.

[Chris Reivers]

I don't know.

[Mike Fratelloni]

That would be the best case.

[Chris Reivers]

But I believe she and her husband still live at her parents house.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And her husband. Okay, is he a beta or an alpha male? I can't not prepare to answer that question.

[Chris Reivers]

I wish I could, but I'm not prepared to answer that.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Is he a biological male or is he chose? Does he choose to be male? Do we know? That's a question I never thought I'd ask. But that might be salient for this.

[Chris Reivers]

Seattle's socialist mayor, Michael Katie Wilson has officially declared war on grocery chains. Ooh. And now Pat's weighing in because of course, he is the brand new head of the Minnesota Grocers Association.

[Mike Fratelloni]

It's a big deal, right? A lot of food goes through grocery stores.

[Chris Reivers]

This is so great. And Pat's response is even better.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Let me think. What does a socialist want to do? Well, she wants to get rid of for profit grocery stores and put in government grocery stores.

[Chris Reivers]

So she has declared war on grocery chains. She claims, Michael, that she will unilaterally ban grocery stores from closing down in her city, arguing that food access is a human right that overrides any type of business decisions.

[Mike Fratelloni]

How's she gonna do that?

[Chris Reivers]

To which Pat Garofalo retweeted, this is such a great line. Pat, you're a genius. Every once in a while an idea is so bad that I truly want to see it implemented just to watch it turn into an inferno of stupidity.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Well done.

[Chris Reivers]

I love that line so much.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I think she makes a point.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, here we go.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Me crotchy in the middle. Here's the point. I see food deserts are a big deal if you're not, you know, if you're poor and you live in a food desert, you are screwed. Sure, you're buying it at a super not anything wrong with a super America. You're buying it at a convenience store. You're buying your food. It's not good food. It's not inexpensive food. It's convenience food. Sure, right. So we do not want food deserts. Did she say how she was going to ban someone from closing? Was she gonna say, hey, you did not make Profit in this location. So we're gonna cover the profit you should have made. Because the average grocery store, I think, has a return of, like, one.

[Chris Reivers]

Is that it?

[Mike Fratelloni]

It's nothing. The margins are nothing. The nice thing is they do a lot of business. So 1.3% of a lot is still something. Right. It's still worth running that grocery store. I didn't realize grocery store hardware stores, like, 1.8%. It's really. You make almost nothing in retail. It's very, very tight to make money. So for every $100, we keep $1.80. That's not a lot. Right. Grocery stores keep $1.03. Right. It's just not a lot. And, you know, Groffalo would tell me if I'm right or wrong, but it's roughly that. Okay, so is a grocery store going to say, hey, we're in Seattle. We made zero. Right. We don't want to do this for zero. We did a million dollars in sales, so we need 1.3% of that million dollars, and you just need to give us a grant for that. And I know who would fall for that. Every legislator in Minnesota would fall for it, and everybody in Seattle, Washington, would fall for that.

[Chris Reivers]

I just don't understand why so many people who hold elected positions within all of our local and national governments have zero idea how this is supposed to work. You know what I'm saying? You can't force a place to stay open. Because the second that you do that, what's gonna happen?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Well, you can. You can force them if you do what Minnesota does. Like, we could have forced daycares to stay open if we gave them 6 million bucks for the 19 children they had there. They can force grocery stores to stay open as long as they're willing to throw the money at the grocery store. Grocery stores might stand up and say, I'll take that. I'll take a guaranteed profit on this grocery store. In fact, I bet you that's exactly what will happen. Instead of having government run grocery stores, they'll guarantee profit on privately run grocery stores. That's not a bad damn idea.

[Chris Reivers]

All I'm picturing right now is, like, the grocery store that's forced to remain open, right? Yep. And you're walking in, and there's probably a young high school kid at the checkout counter. There's like three lights that are even still working, and there's maybe a loaf of moldy bread sitting on the shelf and the quality leering grocery sign kind of swinging down. That's what I'm picturing, well, we gotta stay open. So I don't know what we're gonna sell or how we're gonna do this, but here you go. I'll say it this way, too, because I remember years ago, we had a guy on gl. I can't remember if we were in podcast form or if we were still on the radio. It might have been in our early podcast days. And this was an Indian man, he was from India, and he owned a convenience grocery store in Minneapolis. And they forced him to carry vegetables, to carry vegetables and produce. And he said, well, okay, no one's gonna buy this.

[Mike Fratelloni]

No one buys this stuff.

[Chris Reivers]

They come in here because they want their lottery tickets, they want their cigarettes, and the high school kids want to come in and buy their Gatorade. That's what I sell here. And so he said, every day, every single day, I would put the produce out, and at the end of the day, I threw it all away. But the city made me do it, made me buy this stuff and have it available in my stores.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And I'm not saying the city should do. If they did do that, they should say, I'm gonna guarantee you a profit on these vegetables, Right? And then the guy would say, okay, now if I'm throwing away, I still make money. Let's do it, right? I mean, it's fraught with bullshit, it's fraught with problems. Don't get me wrong. But at least that's the city saying, we're putting our money in because we think this is important. We're not just gonna encumber the business owner to carry this on their back, right?

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And, you know, Reivers, let's have a vision here. I'm just the luckiest man in the world. I got a little bit of money. I have a nice wife and a couple of kids, beautiful kids. And I can drive. And I don't care if gas is $2.50. It doesn't really matter to me. I'm very, very lucky. I have to really, really force myself to feel what it would feel like to live in north Minneapolis, have no money in your checking account, have no form of transportation, and think to myself, okay, wait, I'm getting these government things, these government SNAP benefits. I'm working as hard as I can right at this place, maybe not earning a lot, and all of a sudden I have to travel 10 miles to get to my local cub store. We have to think of that, right? We can't just sit up here in our luck of the draw, because I totally get Mine is luck of the draw. Right? I just got lucky. I helped myself. Right, Help myself. But even when I screwed up, I still had a huge safety net behind me. It was just, I'm pure luck. I get that. So I have to force myself to think it out and say, wow, that dude's that the same dude as me that just didn't happen to grow up under my exact way. Well, that would suck if there's not a grocery store near me.

[Chris Reivers]

Sure.

[Mike Fratelloni]

That would suck if you didn't have a car. What can we do publicly? I think the best thing you can do is get great businesses into town, protect them with great police officers, lower their taxes so they can earn, support them, tell the community, hey, it might not be a black owned business, but it's an owned business. Get over there and you know, and do this. And oh, by the way, if it's a black owned business, somebody opens a black owned business. You want to go to a black owned business? Go to it. Support them. Right, Support them. But we have to, including me, you, Joe and everybody on your show garagelogic. We have to remember that it's not easy. It's not easy for everybody. That wasn't me crying. I just lost my voice.

[Chris Reivers]

That's okay. That happens.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I thought you thought I was crying.

[Chris Reivers]

No, I understand your emotion. I'm with you. So here's the other thing I wanted to mention. Let's get on the jet. Because socialism works for everybody.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

It's truly here to help save this country. Let's head to New York City, shall we? I just want you to know something about New York City's brand new mayor, Zoran Mamdani, the Muslim socialist, communist brand new mayor of New York City. Well, he has a brand new budget director and there is a delay in crucial testimony that's needed to address the city's grim financial state. Would you like to hear why?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Sure.

[Chris Reivers]

Okay, here we go. Morgan Mackay here now with what we learned today. Morgan.

[Morgan Mackay]

Hey, Stephen. Natasha. So city Comptroller Mark Levine painting a grim picture of the city's economic future, reporting that the city lost 38,000 private sector jobs over the last year. Today, the city council kicked off their first budget hearing in. Already there are mixed numbers. Levine testifying today that the city's budget gap will now likely be $7.3 billion over two years, almost $2 billion more than what the mayor's office has been projecting. Levine says he is strongly against the mayor's proposal to raise property taxes, pointing to how it will make the city's Fiscal future even more uncertain. But he does think the state should give the city more money each year, but by changing the local aid formula. When asked about the proposal to raise taxes on millionaires and corporations, Levine kept the door open, but was cautious.

[Chris Reivers]

Everything has to be on the table, but I also want to be cautious because we're relying on the financial sector to continue to show strength in order to meet our revenues. And if we undermine that, we could be in a deeper hole. So I want to be very careful that we don't do anything in our tax policy that would slow down this key sector that we need to pay for important progress for New Yorkers.

[Morgan Mackay]

Now, usually the mayor's budget director will kick off testimony at the first council budget hearing, but City hall says that the director will testify later in the month because he is fast, fasting for Ramadan.

[Mike Fratelloni]

So he can't comment because he's fasting for Ramadan.

[Chris Reivers]

So, you know, I'm sorry that the city is currently on fire right now, that places are fleeing this state because of financial hell and ruin, but I can't talk right now. I'm fasting for Ramadan. This is not a serious. I'm not joking. I have friends that live in New York City and they are already making plans to leave.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Really?

[Chris Reivers]

And this is one guy who I was buddies with in college that he moved out there, met a beautiful girl. They have a wonderful family and they live in New York City and they love New York City. He said, we can't stay here. We're going to be ruined because of this guy, cuz he's a clown. This clown mayor that they have elected is going to ruin what is arguably one of the greatest cities in the entire free world.

[Mike Fratelloni]

You know what I found interesting about that whole thing? Did you notice the comptroller? Do you notice what his name was?

[Chris Reivers]

I guess I missed it.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Mark Levine. You know what Levine is, that's primarily Jewish?

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I can't fathom. I mean, I think he won election to become the comptroller.

[Chris Reivers]

Sure.

[Mike Fratelloni]

So now you're serving for a mayor who does not like Jews. No, he makes it really clear that he does not like Jews or their policies in the Middle East. Right. And I think, well, that would be a little hard, Mark, to have that position to work directly for a mayor who's like, I don't like you. This is not where I want. I don't want you to be here.

[Chris Reivers]

But maybe that's a ray of hope and the fact that he's willing to set aside that to do the good work for the city of New York.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Hey, I have no qualms with Mark being the comptroller. Mark saying, hey, you can't keep raising shit. Everyone will be out of this town. We already lost 38,000 jobs. Mark's probably on the right, you know, the right direction with where New York City should be.

[Chris Reivers]

Keep in mind, it was the way it was phrased, too. Should be more alarming than I think was led on because it said 38,000 jobs in this fiscal year. It's March.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Well, when is their fiscal year?

[Chris Reivers]

Well, I would assume with this new

[Mike Fratelloni]

administration, if it ends because the government isn't it. September is r. So that's. But, you know, if we would have said that some people don't know, so we would have been able to get away with that. That would have been us reporting something that.

[Chris Reivers]

That's true.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Okay, so Mark Levine is the New York City comptroller. Taking office January 1st. He is the highest ranking Jewish elected official in New York City currently. It must be because we've had Jewish mayors in New York. A Democrat and former Manhattan borough president. He is fluent in Hebrew, has deep ties to Israel, and is a strong proponent of combating anti Semitism. Well, then you probably shouldn't work for an anti Semite like the mayor.

[Chris Reivers]

And the reason I wanted to tie these two cities together, and here's the exclamation point, is the fact that Seattle, New York, while one is vastly larger than the other, they both kind of have that same ideology with a couple of dimwits that are at the steering wheel in both cities. You saw that the state of Washington passed the new billionaire tax. I think it was earlier this week. You heard that fallout?

[Mike Fratelloni]

No, no. Tell me.

[Chris Reivers]

So New York is also trying to push this through, or was trying to push this through. I don't know if it failed or whatever. Starbucks founder Howard Schultz, you might know him, he is based out of Seattle.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Gave him like six grand last year.

[Chris Reivers]

Not anymore. He's moving from the Seattle area to Miami, Florida. Starbucks Corporation is gradually moving its headquarters to Tennessee. The state of Washington just approved a 9.9% income tax aimed at people making over $1 million per year. They already have a death tax on estates. Florida has neither of those. You claim we're gonna tax the rich? Well, the rich are smart and the rich are the people that have the means to. To just say, nope, kids, pack your s. We're out of here.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Well, so he was. What was it? Nine point. What?

[Chris Reivers]

9.9.

[Mike Fratelloni]

So if you make over 261,000 bucks married or $156,000 married in Minnesota. You pay 9.85% in Minnesota.

[Chris Reivers]

That's crazy. That's absolutely crazy.

[Mike Fratelloni]

So he's fleeing Seattle, fleeing the state of Washington, because was that a city tax or was that a statewide. Statewide. So we already have this statewide tax here that we're at 9.8. That's why we have no billionaires left in Minnesota. No, they don't want to do it. And he's moving down to. There's an island. I don't know where he's moving, but there's an island in Miami.

[Chris Reivers]

Careful.

[Mike Fratelloni]

But there's an island that Bezos lives on. And a whole bunch of people live on this island in Miami. Brady lives there. And it's a really, really cool.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, Tiger. Doesn't Tiger live in there?

[Mike Fratelloni]

I thought he lived in Jupiter, but

[Chris Reivers]

maybe he may be right.

[Mike Fratelloni]

It's like 100 million dollar houses, right? And I'm sure he's going to move down there. But to lose that from your culture in Seattle. A guy who started this in Seattle, it developed a worldwide stunning brand. Stunning brand. And he's saying, I can't do this anymore. We have to move our headquarters to Tennessee because they have no corporate income tax. And I'm gonna park my ass in Florida. Cause I wanna live in Florida, not Tennessee.

[Chris Reivers]

Congratulations.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I cannot believe it.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

We do.

[Chris Reivers]

In the grand scheme of problems that plague our world and people you would love to see behind bars, I want to know where you think that this ranks. Are you ready? The world of competitive fishing can be something else. This just in. And of course, it's got the breaking news. And this is from Derek Evans, and he is a. Oh, my God. He is a former member of the West Virginia House, and he is an owner, real estate investor, and farmer. This just in. I'm gonna read this as a very serious news man, a Texas man by the name of Curtis Lee Daniels, because, of course, you have to have three names if you're gonna be suspected and guilty of any type of crime, whether it's an assassination attempt. Right. It's David Wilkes Booth.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yeah. I mean, we know why they do that. Because they want to say the person's middle name so it doesn't get confused with all the people that don't have

[Chris Reivers]

that middle name that get on Facebook. I'm not the guy. That's not me.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Just like Tony Hawk when they said he was on Epstein's island, it's like, no, he had a photographer named Epstein who took pictures of him.

[Chris Reivers]

You remember the legendary voice of the Baltimore Ravens? His name is Jerry Sandusky. Not that Jerry Sandusky.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Yeah, that's a problem.

[Chris Reivers]

He's associated with football. He's a different Jerry Sandusky. Anyway. Okay, I digress. Here we go. This just stands. A Texas man by the name of Curtis Lee Daniels faces, Michael faces up to 10 years in prison, and you're

[Mike Fratelloni]

thinking, what did he do? He must have killed someone.

[Chris Reivers]

What did he do? Is he guilty of murder? Did he imprison somebody? No. He faces up to 10 years in prison after allegedly cheating in a fishing tournament by placing weights inside of his largemouth bass. And you see the video of him, of him taking. You know, because you got to have the judge. So the gut. The judge is gutting the fish and pulling out these, like, gigantic marble, like, weights out of this fish. And I'm thinking 10 years in prison. Are you serious? We're gonna. We're gonna lock this guy up for a longer stretch of time than anyone that's been charged with feeding our future.

[Mike Fratelloni]

So it says Daniel was arrested and charged with violating fishing tournament law.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, no.

[Mike Fratelloni]

I Thought he was charged with potentially. There was a $10,000 a bounty.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, yeah, right, exactly.

[Mike Fratelloni]

And then you took that. That would be grand larceny or something, right? But no, he's charged with violating fishing tournament law.

[Chris Reivers]

What's this?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Was in Texas they take fishing tournament.

[Chris Reivers]

He's from Texas. I don't know if that's where that.

[Mike Fratelloni]

It says tournament organizers notice that officials North Texas fishing tournament. Okay, so in Texas they have a law for a fishing tournament. Maybe that's the beginning of the problem. Reverse.

[Chris Reivers]

I see it now. Ready? Finish your thought.

[Mike Fratelloni]

My thought was, do we need to have laws that cover fishing tournaments, or should we just say, if a guy cheats in a fishing tournament, everybody pull him aside and kick his ass?

[Chris Reivers]

So someone had asked because I found this on social media. Yeah, I know. Don't give me crap about that, because on Garage Logic, I'm not allowed to do that. But this is my show, so you can all go to hell. I'm kidding. No, don't go to hell. I love each and every one of you. Hey, Grok. Can he really go to prison for 10 years? This is Grok's explanation. Yes. If convicted, Texas law makes violating fishing tournament rules a third degree felony when the total prize exceeds $10,000. This one was actually $11,500. That carries a two to ten year in prison and up to a $10,000 fine. He posted bond and is out pending trial. Wow.

[Mike Fratelloni]

So he was stuffing fish and now he's gonna go to jail and people are gonna be stuffing fishermen. You can use that. You can have that. I mean, could you. Could you imagine the thoughts in your head? You're like, shit, what have I done? I could go to jail for cheating in a fishing tournament.

[Chris Reivers]

I know where you're at here at the. What do we call it? The mess. Is that the mess hall? The mess hall where they go with their cantina or their plastic tray to go get their gruel and their like. What are you in for, buddy? Oh, mass murder. This, my wife. She. She started. She started seeing somebody and I just couldn't take it. I had to. I had to kill everybody. What are you in for, buddy? Oh, man, I. I robbed. I robbed a family at gunpoint. What are you in for, buddy? Yeah, I stuck some metal weights inside of a largemouth bass. Wait, what?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Chris Reivers]

What? You're in here with us? Really? We're in the same joint?

[Mike Fratelloni]

Hopefully. Hopefully. They treat people who cheat in fishing tournaments the same way they do pedophiles in jail.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, my God.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Make it real tough on them.

[Chris Reivers]

And that's the part that's. That's so. That's just so wonderful, isn't it? It's just like we've. We've figured out all the world's problems. We're going to send a guy to prison for 10 years because still in

[Mike Fratelloni]

shock that there's fishing tournament law. I mean, like, rules.

[Chris Reivers]

I mean, these things do get pretty birdie. I mean, they get pretty big, right? And so you think, okay, you got to have rules and regulations because there's always going to be somebody that.

[Mike Fratelloni]

This is the rules and regulations. Reavers. This is fishing tournament law. Someone put this into law that no fishing tournament. I could see Minnesota. No fishing tournament Minnesota can ever expand more than two sunnies. You know, I can see those lines because we do that in Minnesota. This is Texas. Texas is the last bastion of some insanity for a guy who crotches the middle. I like that term.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

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[Mike Fratelloni]

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[Chris Reivers]

So again, it's quicklinksgolf.com I know this is normally your spot on the show. I do. Because I was thinking about this the other day and there's been a massive public outcry. Michael, I'm not sure if you're aware of this. I am not after massive public outcry from user that believing Alexa was listening in on their everyday conversations. And I happen to be one of them. I think Alexa is constantly listening to me and I'm quite fearful of that. Well, it turns out Amazon has announced it will be releasing a male version of Alexa and it won't be listening to anything at all.

[Mike Fratelloni]

Reavers, you are the best.

[Chris Reivers]

That made me lol when I saw that this morning. Please do us a favor. Rate and review the show wherever you happen to be listening to the Weekly Scramble Podcast. It helps others find the show. It helps us out as well. And we appreciate each and every single one of you. His name is Mike Fratellone. My name is Chris Reivers. Thank you so very much for listening to the Weekly Scramble Podcast. We'll talk to you again next time. Until then, cheers.

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