SCRAMBLE: We take an extended deep dive into the Ilhan Omar story and her "attacker"

Summary

Weekly Scramble Podcast – Extended Deep Dive into the Ilhan Omar Story

Garage Logic via Gamut Podcast Network | January 30, 2026
Hosts: Chris Reivers & Mike Frattelloni

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Episode Overview

This episode of the Weekly Scramble focuses on the recent incident involving U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar at a town hall event, where she was attacked with apple cider vinegar. The hosts take an unfiltered, skeptical deep dive into the motivations, security response, and broader political context surrounding the event, while also touching on related political corruption allegations and the new "Trump Savings Account." Characteristic banter, pop culture tangents, and several not-safe-for-radio jokes pepper the discussion, preserving the Garage Logic tone—irreverent, suspicious of politicians, and rooted in Minnesota common sense.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Matt Khalil vs. Ex-wife Lawsuit (03:05–10:28)

• Story Recap: NFL player Matt Khalil is suing ex-wife Hayley Khalil (influencer and former Miss Minnesota) over her public comments about their sex life, specifically claims about his anatomy.
• Hosts' Take:
  • Mike and Chris joke about the absurdity, debating whether such publicity could actually benefit Khalil.
  • Chris suspects Hayley’s influencer status means this spat is a bid for attention:
    "What is this doing? This is giving her the attention she's seeking." (07:34)
  • Laughter ensues as they riff on marriage woes, social media oversharing, and the perils of personal laundry aired publicly.

2. Gas Station Parenting & Political Humor (10:28–13:22)

• Gas Stories: Mike shares how his daughter nervously called for help filling her gas tank; Chris connects it to AOC’s past gas price complaints, poking fun at political hypocrisy and social media optics.
• Memorable Quote:
  "AOC was also at the gas pump. And so picture her filling up her SUV with gas because of course she's a hypocrite." – Chris (11:51)

3. Ilhan Omar Town Hall Attack - Skepticism & Analysis (15:44–27:32)

Initial Skepticism

• Chris’ Take: Immediately doubts the authenticity of the incident, claiming:
  "I don't believe anybody anymore. When it comes to her specifically, I don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth. I think everything that she's tied to has fraud written all over it." (15:52)
• Observes Omar seemingly nodding at the attacker before the squirt:
  "When you watch her in slow motion...almost gives him the up nod. I'm sorry, I don't believe a second of this." (16:08–16:45)

Security Failure & Response

• Mike’s View: Even if real, the security response was a failure for not evacuating her after being squirted:
  "You can't allow a congressperson to continue talking if botulism was just squirted onto them...You want to continue? You can't." (17:10)
• Chris agrees, noting she posed for photos afterward and didn't seek medical attention (18:26–18:43).

Was This a “False Flag” or Real Attack?

• Mike’s Counter: Willingly entertains both scenarios, highlighting the lack of clarity and the host’s deep distrust:
  "Are you saying because you're full tin hat on this, that he was a plant?...So he's willing to go to prison to do this stunt?" (20:24–20:35)
• Chris: Escalates his conspiracy suspicions, citing political corruption that erupted in the news just before the attack:
  "I'm just going to go out on a limb and just think that that's purely coincidental that that happened...a day after all of those people were being investigated." (21:51–22:01)
• Both note the attacker’s history of violent rhetoric against Omar but debate whether that is evidence of a larger setup or just an unstable individual.

Synthesis and Reflection

• Mike appeals to Occam’s razor (“the simplest explanation is usually the truth”) but admits the incident raises serious questions about event security and response protocol.
• Chris remains unconvinced by the official narrative:
  "We've got to stop pretending that everything's on the up and up. We just have to." (23:52)

Final Thoughts

• Mike: Even if genuine, Omar’s decision to remain and confront the attacker portrays her as “badass,” though possibly “incredibly stupid” for risking everyone’s safety (25:08–25:20).
• Chris: Unable to separate his distrust from the event, reiterating his perception of Omar as a corrupt “puppet master.” (25:27–25:39)
• “How much would I need to pay you for you to go to prison?” – The hosts close the segment in typical GL fashion, blending skepticism with irreverent humor. (25:44–26:06)

4. Political Corruption and Minnesota Fraud Accusations (21:59–24:41)

• Chris details intertwined business and consulting ventures connected to Omar and her associates, referencing congressional investigations and alleging possible corruption.
• Mike pushes back, demanding hard proof, but agrees the system seems “worse than anybody has ever believed.” (24:41)

5. “Trump Savings Account” Policy Discussion (28:45–35:41)

• Policy Overview: Proposal to give every child born 2025–2028 a $1,000 investment account seeded by public and private monies, managed until adulthood.
• Hosts' Views:
  • Mike presents the proposal as a positive step in financial education and wealth-building if properly managed, comparing it to 401(k)s.
  • Chris points out the political “vote-buying” optics, and both agree these programs shouldn’t be personally branded by living politicians.
  • The pair humorously debate whether they’d rather have Michael Dell fund these accounts or buy the Minnesota Twins and “spend some money on pitching.” (34:51–35:41)

6. Wrap-Up: Recalling Highlights & Humor (35:41–36:32)

• Closing riff connects the episode’s early jokes (Matt Khalil), policy talk, and running theme of skepticism toward politicians.
• Jokey banter about “big penises” and hardware-store snacks brings the tone back to “lighter side of GL.”
• “We prevented talking about ICE once”—Chris, celebrating the absence of immigration debate for the episode.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Ilhan Omar’s Attack:
  "I don't believe anybody anymore...I think everything that she's tied to has fraud written all over it." – Chris (15:52)
  "You can't allow a congressperson to continue talking if botulism was just squirted onto them..." – Mike (17:10)
  "Are you saying because you're full tin hat on this, that he was a plant?...So he's willing to go to prison to do this stunt?" – Mike (20:24)
  "We've got to stop pretending that everything's on the up and up. We just have to." – Chris (23:52)

• On Marriage & Influencer Drama:
  "He said, 'adorable, beautiful, cute, delightful, elegant, fabulous, gorgeous and hot.'...But what about I, J, K? He said, 'I'm just kidding.'" – Chris reading a joke (01:29)
  "Matt is handsome. A pro football player...And even he can't make it work. Just like David Beckham, just like Tom Brady. It doesn't matter. Sometimes it just doesn't work out." – Mike (09:09)

• On Political Branding:
  "I don't think you should be able to name it the Trump Savings Account until it's posthumously named..." – Mike (33:09)
  _"Walz should not say I'm giving away Walz Bucks. You're returning our tax dollars back to us." – Chris (33:17)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 03:05 – Matt Khalil lawsuit recap & jokes
• 10:53 – Gas station parenting & AOC political humor
• 15:44 – Deep dive begins into Ilhan Omar attack (skepticism, details, analysis)
• 20:24 – Attack details, attacker’s motive, debate over “setup”
• 21:59 – Broader political corruption allegations tied to Omar
• 28:45 – “Trump Savings Account” policy briefing and discussion
• 34:51 – Dell’s $6B donation hypothetical, prioritizing kids vs. sports
• 35:41 – Wrap-up, callback jokes, final thoughts

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Tone and Language

• All dialogue reflects the informal, cynical, biting tone of GL—never shying from conspiracy theories, political distrust, or crass humor.
• The episode blends banter with pointed critique and a clear skepticism toward both politicians and sensational headlines.
• Humor is irreverent, sometimes crossing the line into barroom territory but always self-aware and meant to entertain.

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Summary prepared to reflect the flow, key content, and tone of the Weekly Scramble episode.

Transcript

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This is the Weekly Scramble, a place where we chat about life over a cold one or two. It's time to belly up to the pod with Mike Fratelloni and your host, Chris Reivers.

[A]

That's right, it's time for the Weekly Scramble podcast. My name is Chris Reivers. With me as always, his name is Mike Fratelloni. Hello, Michael.

[B]

How you doing, Reivers?

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You know, we normally end the show with a joke each and every day start. But we're going to start with one that I've got here because it'll delve right into a subject matter that I wanted to bring up. And it's based upon marriage. And I read as I'm almost like Casey Kasem a long distance. Anyway, after being married for 30 years, a wife asked her husband to describe her. He looked at her for a while and then said, quote, you're an Alphabet wife. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K? She asks, what the hell does that mean? He said, adorable, beautiful, cute, delightful, elegant, fabulous, gorgeous and hot. Well, she smiled happily and said, oh, my goodness, that's. That's so lovely. But what about I, J, K? He said, I'm just kidding. Wait, wait, wait, wait. And the swelling in his right eye is going down and the doctor says he is fairly optimistic about saving his family jewels. And I got the wrong thing potted up.

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There we go. Hey, there we go.

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Anyway. Oh, Mary, that was a Good one.

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It's good to start on a lighter note.

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And I do want to start before we delve.

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Not a bad joke, right?

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And before we delve into more serious matters.

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Super serious stories.

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Because I saw this story from our friends over at the Stir church, and of course, I can't log into my account right now, so that's great. In any event, Matt Khalil is back in the news today because he's going.

[B]

To get hall of Fame nods.

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No, no. Matt Khalil, for those of you who don't know, he was the number four overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft by the Minnesota Vikings. A pretty good left tackle. I think he played a while for the Carolina Panthers as well. Had a nice little career.

[B]

Six foot seven.

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Yep. Big guy. Really big guy. Well, he is suing Hayley Kahlil, his ex wife, who is a social media influencer and former Miss Minnesota, for invading his privacy. She has filed to have the suit dismissed. There's a lovely picture.

[B]

So she broke his car. She sued him or he did something horrible to her. He beat her up.

[A]

What did he do? Matt Khalil, as I mentioned, has sued his ex wife over allegations that she invaded his privacy and pro profited off discussing their sex life and his genitalia on a popular social media livestream.

[B]

Oh, so she said his genitalia is so small.

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Right.

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That he's embarrassed.

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Hayley Khalil is a successful Instagram with millions of followers on YouTube, Instagram and TikTok. Before gaining social media fame, the actress and model was named Miss Minnesota. The two met while Matt was playing for the Vikings and married in 2015. They divorced in 2022. He has since remarried and has a young child. And you're thinking, okay, okay. Well, it turns out Haley, the former Ms. Khalil, had complained about the size of his swimsuit area.

[B]

Oh, embarrassing. Because it's so tiny.

[A]

No, the opposite.

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Wait, what?

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She has said that it's too large and she just could not keep up.

[B]

Wait, wait, hold on. So Matt Khalil is suing his ex wife because she went onto a podcast and said that his swimsuit area was too large?

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Yes.

[B]

Okay. This is what some in the media called the best opportunity for Matt Khalil in the world. Cuz you know what he can say is he can say, that is so embarrassing. I would never hear about his size of his penis if he wouldn't have sued her.

[A]

The suit was filed in US District Court of Minnesota earlier this month. Matt argued that Haley's decision to discuss their Sex life on a public livestream, which was viewed by me as people fell outside the bounds of protected speech. And I'm gonna guess that they had some type of an arrangement based upon the ending of their marriage. So my guess is that she would then be in some sort of violation of that type of an agreement.

[B]

Well, it's not a bad. Come on, dude.

[A]

Well, you know what happened. You know damn well what happened.

[B]

What happened? The current Mrs. Khalil Kalani Asmus.

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Oh, you have the name.

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Okay.

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I guarantee she caught wind of this and said, well, you've got to do something about this. Meanwhile, he's probably silently going, all right, all right. That's pretty cool.

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I don't think you say anything about it, but I think Kalani, if she has some children, she doesn't even need to go to the hospital because they'll just fall right out. She needs to carry, like, a. Like a bucket under her. Wow. Well, if what they're saying is true about Matt Khalil, you shouldn't put that anywhere, right?

[A]

I guess, but.

[B]

So maybe he should sue, because when.

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This story first surfaced way back in the day, I do remember us discussing this. Let me. Let me do. Yeah, I think we talked about.

[B]

We talked about Matt Khalil's penis.

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I believe so. Okay, here's. I tried to use the Star Tribune story, but. Stop putting your stupid ass paywall on there when I already have a subscription for your dumb ass newspaper. Sorry. I hate the Star Tribune for a lot of reasons. Anyway, Haley's a lawyer. Adds to the back and forth battle telling, saying Minnesota is so committed to protecting First Amendment rights that it recently passed a law allowing speakers to recover their attorney's fees if they are forced to endure a lawsuit for exercising those rights. We will be seeking such an award here. Legal counsel for Haley tells TMZ Sports we move to dismiss the complaint because Minnesota has a long standing. I just read that. And we believe the motion will be granted. Matt Khalil's legal team scoffed at Haley's filing. Here's what I'm wondering. I always get nervous when someone involved in a situation like this is a influencer.

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Influencer.

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Because what is this doing? This is giving her the attention she's seeking.

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Making me search for photos online.

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Well, of course it is, but it's also giving her the attention she's so desperately seeking.

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Sure, but, I mean, she just had. She was on a podcast akin to ours, and at some point in time, Chris Reaver said you were married to Matt Cleal. Was he a Big guy. And she said two Coke cans is basically what she said. That's what I'm reading.

[A]

Okay. And.

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And then Matt Khalil heard that and said, that is the most embarrassing thing. No, Matt, no. Could be what my ex wife did. And she says something different. Not on a podcast, thank God. But she might have had an equal and opposite thought about the old mic.

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Here's why. Because I'm always skeptical of basically everything these days. Here's what I'm wondering. Because obviously the relationship didn't work out. And that happens, right? That happens.

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She's a real beauty.

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But my guess, and I'm going out on a very sturdy limb by suggesting this, my guess is that the pair I'm talking about, Haley and Matt, most likely had relations before they were ever married, correct?

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Well, I don't know. I doubt they waited till.

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My guess is that that happened. So you knew going in what you were dealing with. Right. So if it was that, if that's the real reason why you decided to end the marriage, my guess is you probably had a good idea of what you were getting involved with beforehand.

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You know, this gives me some happiness. Let me tell you why.

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Okay.

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Matt is handsome. A pro football player.

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I believe he owned a bunch of pizza shops here, maybe owned a bunch of pizza shops.

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Made millions of dollars in his life. Built where people want people to be built, right?

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Yep.

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And even he can't make it work. Just like David Beckham, just like Tom Brady. It doesn't matter. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. They were married for seven years.

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Okay?

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Right. That's a long time. Did she have a seven year itch? Did he have the seven year itch? Do you have a seven year itch? After that story, I can't even look her in the face because now she actually did herself a disservice because there's some great guy out there like Mike Fratelloni, who says, God, look at this beautiful girl. And then someone says, no, she was married to Matt Khalil. And then I do this. I'm washing.

[A]

Nice to meet you. I gotta go.

[B]

Good to meet you. We'll see you later. Well, like I. Like I could get Matt Khalil's ex, right?

[A]

Well, you know what?

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Not that I'm married.

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God bless all of them, and I hope it all works out, you know? Go ahead. Were you gonna say something else?

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What was he gonna sue for?

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Defamation, I would guess.

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How much money?

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Well, my guess is that she's probably getting something out of this since she's a Influencer. And he was a pro football player. So my guess is she's getting some type of alimony out of this.

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We can tell if this is a true lawsuit if we go to his Instagram page and there's links to him saying, I'm suing my ex. Because that would be self promoting.

[A]

All right, so speaking of families, you were having a conversation with someone in your life when you walked in. And I didn't know how. And you share with the class what you wanted to share with. But there was a reason the subject of gas came up.

[B]

It was sweet.

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Wasn't was very charming because your girls are amazing. Your girls are so cool.

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One of my daughters, she said, I need to get gas. And I said, okay, well go get it. Right? It's kind of nice out. Go get it. And she said, no, I'm gonna wait. Cause I like to do it with somebody. I like to have someone in the car with me.

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Sure.

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I said, okay, well don't. And then she had to get gas, so she couldn't wait. So she calls us and I put it on speakerphone and she doesn't know that I did this. But wasn't that just sweet?

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It was very sweet.

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Which one do I push? How do I make it last?

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She didn't want to make a mistake, so she called her dad because she wanted expert advice.

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And she did the whole thing kind. And then the phone disconnected. And then I called her back. And what'd she do? You can't hang up on me in the middle of this. I was like, I didn't hang up on you, honey.

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The signal just dropped.

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It just dropped somehow. But she did get gas. She survived. Hypothetically, she can do it on her. She's only done it a couple times by herself getting gas. So I've usually been there with her. She's a new licensee, so I'm very excited to see if she can do it next time. But you have a gas story or what?

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Well, there was, you know, you know me, I'm very easily entertained by various things on social media. And one of them that caught my attention, I thought, wow, that really is a problem. And it was aoc, your gal. AOC was also at the gas pump. And so picture her filling up her SUV with gas because of course she's a hypocrite. Where she's driving a gas guzzling suv. What was it?

[B]

Big Cadillac?

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I don't even know. It was just some big. It was a giant white slash silver suv. So she's filling up. Picture her at same situation, picture her standing at a pump. And she said, things have gotten so bad under this administration, meaning the Trump administration, because, of course, she's a flaming lefty. And she said, my vehicle, when President Biden was in office, held $90 worth of gas. And now under President Trump, it only holds $50 worth of gas.

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That was pretty good.

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That was a pretty good one. I didn't know what you were going with. I chuckled. I chuckled when I saw that. Cause get it. Because the gas is cheaper now than it was before.

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Yes. AOC purchased a Tesla Model 3 during the pandemic. I wonder again, I thought she's like, oh, what a hypocrite that she would have that. How gross of her. I'm just making a joke.

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Do you think that maybe there's a little wink, wink, nudge, nudge with between her and Elon, you know?

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Yeah, if there's a thing.

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Because Lord knows.

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Oh, my God. That would be the power couple of all power couples. I would love that.

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Well, you know, think about being him for like, two seconds. Okay. Yes, you have more money than God, but you have to travel around all the time with security. You probably have more security detail than the President does.

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Speaking of security detail, that video of Ilhan Omar getting squirted. You guys talked about this a lot on the show.

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I want to discuss this at length.

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Okay.

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Can you hang onto that for a minute?

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I think we can talk about one of our great advertisers. Oh, I thought you were gonna do it.

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That is what? I thought you were gonna tie that in with Ilhan. My bad, my bad.

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No, I was trying to set you up. That's me putting the ball on the. Handing you the club and then you swing it away.

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So we are nuts. Created quite the firestorm yesterday. Do you want to know why?

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Why?

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They are addicting.

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Oh, they're wonderful.

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So what I do is cause the top of them is a little cap, like a cup. So I put them into the little cup portion control. And I say, that's what I'm gonna eat today, right? Yeah. I try to maintain my girlish figure.

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They're so great. So Anyway, go to wearenutsmn.com your order and let them know that you heard about them here on the weekly scramble podcast. We will be right back. All right. I'm glad you brought up Ilhan Omer because that's one of the subjects I wanted to bring up today. So when I first watched the video, and again, I am probably the world's, well, biggest cynic when it comes to.

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Her, I don't believe anybody anymore.

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Well, I don't believe anybody anymore. But when it comes to her specifically, I don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth. I think everything that she's tied to has fraud written all over it. And I think she's the mastermind behind all of this fraud that's taken place in Minnesota. Okay, I've said that a number of times on gl.

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I feel you. I do.

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I'll say that on our show too. So when she's hosting a town hall meeting and she gets attacked, and I've been using air quotes here, and she gets attacked with a guy sitting in the front row right in front of the podium with a, as we call it, syringe, I called it a squirt gun of apple cider vinegar. When you watch her in slow motion, look at the guy a second, a split second before he approaches her and almost gives him the up nod. I'm sorry, I don't believe a second of this. Not one part of this was real.

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Let me go on the opposite side. Let's pretend it all was real. Right. Let's pretend it was an absolute real thing. Sure.

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Okay.

[B]

And she. What was interesting about it is her reaction was visceral pissed. Her hands went into the fighting fist. Right. But there's a gal sitting behind her who, when it happens, you see her on video jump backwards. Like, she really gets freaked out, which seems like a much more normal reaction to someone potentially attacking her. I made the comment that every single one of her security people and every single person in that room that was part of the setup of this should be fired. The reason why is you can't allow a congressperson to continue talking if botulism was just squirted onto them, if anthrax was just squirted onto them, if battery acid was just squirted onto them, if feces or urine or ejaculate or whatever was just squirted onto her. You can't let her keep going. You have to say, I'm sorry. You want to continue? You can't.

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Yep. We have to take you to the hospital for inspection to make sure you're.

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Not going to die in 15 minutes. And all the other people in this room aren't gonna die in 15 minutes.

[A]

And that's why I don't buy a second of it. Because the thing is, if that was the case, let's just say that this guy really did set out to attack her in that setting. Well, a, you weren't allowed to bring water bottles or anything into this setting anyway. You would think that he would have been patted down thoroughly. Secondly, if that was the case, she not only goes after him, she doesn't have the reaction of, I better get away from this guy. But you stayed there. You kept talking, go after him. You didn't seek medical attention. And then after it was done, you posed for photos with people in the same shirt, even though you allegedly have no idea what was just escorted onto you. That kid. I don't buy any of it.

[B]

And I'm willing to say it was real. Cause, first of all, the guy who did it, he's going to prison.

[A]

I actually have the story right here. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Bear with me. Bear with me. The man seen on video rushing Representative Ilhan Omar and spraying her with apple cider vinegar during a town hall in Minneapolis is now charged in federal court. A criminal complaint filed yesterday charges Anthony James Kacmarek, 55, with one count of forcibly assaulting a federal employee in the performance of their official duties. According to the complaint, Kaczmarek charged Omar during an event Tuesday evening After the congresswoman called for the resignation of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, using a syringe, he squirted a brownish orange liquid directly at Omar. One video of the encounter captures Kaczmarek saying, she's not resigning. You're splitting Minnesotans apart. As he turns and walks away. The complaint states Security subdued him, subdued Kaczmarek, who was placed under arrest. Omar continued speaking after the disruption and later said that she was okay, despite the liquid possibly reaching her face and eye and staining her clothes. I mean, hold on, I gotta read this last paragraph. A hazmat field specialist later identified the liquid as apple cider vinegar and water. Anne Kaczmarek was heard on Minneapolis Police Department body camera footage saying something about squirting vinegar. A close associate of Kacmarek who spoke with investigators, recalled a phone conversation from years ago in which he called Omar. Somebody should kill her. Jail records indicate Kacmarek was transferred from the Hennepin county jail to the custody of the U.S. marshals Service on Thursday morning. As of Thursday, no date had been set for his first court appearance.

[B]

So are you saying because you're full tin hat on this, that he was a plant?

[A]

100%.

[B]

So he's willing to go to prison to do this stunt?

[A]

I am saying let's follow this story.

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I'm with you on that. And I do believe her reaction was out of character of a normal person. Right. And I know because I watched a little bit more of the video. Security did come up to her and say, you have to leave. You cannot stay. We gotta figure out what's going on. And they tried to get. And she said, no, I'm not. And she said some expletives. I'm not leaving. I'm not gonna let them do this to me. Right. Which is incredibly powerful, if real. And I'm willing to believe it's real. Right. That was incredibly powerful, but incredibly stupid. She risked everyone in that room's lives. If that would have been anthrax, how do we know it wasn't something? First of all, note to everyone who's listening, you can't do this shit. If you want to have the federal government push even further into our lives and have more control of us, and we get penalized more for saying things against them. And the whole system that we have start to fall apart, start attacking politicians. Cuz politicians are the one with the power. And you know what? They won't wanna be. They won't wanna be attacked. So they'll change laws to protect themselves.

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What Was the date on Tuesday? Was that the 27th?

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I don't know.

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I believe it was. Because today's the 29th, right? So that would be Tuesday the 27th. Let me read you this story from Monday, January 26th, shall I?

[B]

Because. Okay. Is it about her winery?

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A longtime Democratic operative who worked for top party figures before jumping into private ventures with the now husband of Representative Ilhan Omar, Tim Minette is back in the spotlight as swindling allegations resurfacing Congress investigates Omar's skyrocketing net worth via her husband's companies, according to her financial disclosures. William Halier and Minette, who met working for NOW Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison when he was in Congress, were both political operatives before they turned to venture capitalism and the wine industry. Halyer was a senior advisor to former Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez and also has an extensive history working working for Ellison, who was the DNC co chair. Between consulting fees and reimbursements, Halier raked in over $250,000 advising the DNC and Ellison, according to FEC filings. The pair also co founded the political consulting firm E Street Group, which raked in almost $3 million alone from Omar's house campaigns, and then went on to co found Rose Lake Capital LLC, a venture capital firm, and ET's Crew, a wine company, among a web of other ventures that they have since embarked on. I'm just going to go out on a limb and just think that that's purely coincidental that that happened the same day, a day after all of those people were being investigated.

[B]

But weirdo Mike, that Sprader, this weird guy who looked hammered or under drugs or whatever, I know he had some stuff going wrong with him, right? He's willing to take one for the team, her team, by the way, he looked like he was fairly conservative on his profile.

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When you get out, here's a nice sizable check that will set you up financially for a long time. But we need you to do something. We've got to stop.

[B]

How much is your freedom worth?

[A]

I know I've probably seen one too many episodes of the Sopranos and I get all that. Yes, but we've got to stop pretending that everything's on the up and up. We just have to.

[B]

Or we need to prove that some of these things are actual conspiracies.

[A]

We have, though, Mike, we have $19 billion of fraud that have taken place.

[B]

We have some proved fraud, not $19 billion worth of fraud. We have some proof when Donald Trump says there's $9 billion worth of fraud he's prone to hyperbole.

[A]

But that wasn't Donald Trump. That was Joe Thompson that said that.

[B]

I get it, I get it. But that's not $19 billion worth of fraud.

[A]

He said 9 billion. And we believe we have only scratched the surface.

[B]

We haven't proved that.

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Not yet.

[B]

I think we're only proved, like, I shouldn't say only less than a billion, which is still a monstrous amount. Don't get me wrong.

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I think if we really saw what was happening here, if we had the ability to kind of pick up the rock and see all of the ants that were scurrying underneath, worms, I think it's way worse than anybody has ever. What we've been able to prove so far, and absolutely great work by everyone that has been doing this work to uncover all of this. I think it's way worse than any of us even remotely believe.

[B]

Totally could be. We gotta prove it.

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Okay.

[B]

Is she. I mean, if this is real, if this actually happened to her, she looked like a badass. Would you give her that?

[A]

No.

[B]

You don't think she. Where she gets pissed and goes after the guy?

[A]

No, because I don't think.

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You can't get past the fact that you think it's fake.

[A]

I can't get past the fact that this woman is so corrupt. And I think that this. This woman is the epitome of everything that's wrong in the state of Minnesota. I can't get past that because I think she is the puppet master behind all of this.

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I get it. I get you. I get you believe that. I'm not.

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Boy, am I gonna indict myself.

[B]

Well, let me state this. I'm not sure what happened. Right. It seems hard for me to jump to. This guy's willing to go to jail for any amount of money. Right. I think. How much would I need to pay you for you to go to prison.

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For five years right now you're like.

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I could take a break. Would I still have to work here?

[A]

I don't know. But also, this guy has some mental issues.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Right. So I think he was probably somebody. Okay.

[B]

You got somebody that someone could influence him and say you go to the.

[A]

That could be manipulated easily. Is, I guess, my point.

[B]

And that's very possible. I like to go back to. Is it Occam's razor? Like what? The Hanlon's razor, where it's. The most obvious answer is usually the truth. Right. The most obvious answer is the guy's a little bit off and he scored. I still go back to Security guards letting her stay there.

[A]

But Mike, have you seen the Sloane down footage, Sloan? Jesus. Slown down footage of her where she looks directly at this guy and up nods him. I'll play it for you.

[B]

Yeah, I've seen it. I didn't see that. That was compelling. I didn't look at that and say that is 100%.

[A]

Well, then why would she do it then?

[B]

She's guys in the front row. He's five feet from her. She's making eye contact. You know what I wish she would have done? I wish she would have said, got pissed, done the exact same thing. Ripped off her top because she probably had something on underneath. And then continued on to taking the sweater off and just throwing it to the ground and said, you go test that for botulism. And just whipped it away and then continued on. She'd be our next president. If she would have done that, she'd be our next president.

[A]

Well, I don't think she can be.

[B]

No, she'd be the next senator from the state of Minnesota.

[A]

Oh, great. That'd be just fantastic.

[B]

Next governor of Minnesota.

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[B]

Yes.

[A]

What is Trump Account?

[B]

Trump Savings Account.

[A]

Yes. Help me, help me understand this.

[B]

If you were to have children, I think this is kind of an interesting idea. If you had a child born between January 1st, 2025 and December 31st, all the way out to 2028. US federal taxpayers, it says the US treasury will cede $1,000, but taxpayers will give every one of those children born during that time period a $1,000 investment account. Right. And the accounts will be owned by the child, managed by the guardian until they are 18. They have to invest in abroad US stocks. So it's kind of like mutual funds. They have to invest in families and friends or businesses. Like if I worked for a company and they wanted to give my child's Trump account some money, they can give up to $2,500 a year. Family and friends can give up to $5,000 a year. So you can seed this with $7,500 every year. Right. It's a really interesting thing that they're doing. They're trying to make sure that everybody understands the free market capitalism of the stock market. Right. How the stock market works. And they're hoping that because everyone's going to get this, every kid is going to get this that's born between January 1st of last year and December 31st of 2028, they're going to get 1,000 bucks. Proponents say this gives everybody a little taste of the dream. There are some great growth numbers. Let me give you some examples which I find kind of fascinating. Initial government seed, really? Initial taxpayer seed. I'm paying, you're paying. We're all paying. Is $1,000 at birth, the maximum annual contribution is $5,000. For the family, $2,500. Prefer employer. So another $7,500 per year. Right. You can contribute to age 18 and at 18, they can take it out to go to college, buy their first house or it converts to a retirement plan. Right. So they can't just take it out to go buy stuff.

[A]

That was going to be my question.

[B]

Okay, so here are some of the returns. If you do the annual contribution to $7,500 a year times 18 years, that's $135,000. Plus the $1,000 in seed money, that's 136,000. If that has a growth rate of 7% over that time, that's $290,000. Wow, that's not bad.

[A]

So one year of college in today's.

[B]

World, one year of college, they could go to some of the colleges here, private colleges, for one year. So from today to 18, a kid could get out of high school and have $290,000 to fund college, to fund their first home. This is tax free growth. Right. Fund their first home. Trade school, they could start a business with this. It really gets them to see this power of compounding. I find it really, really cool. I hope if they earn 9%, which is kind of the historical average of the S and P, it's $350,000.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

It is really, really an interesting thing. Proponents love that opponents don't like a couple of things. They think it's going to increase the disparity in wealth because they say, oh, rich K are going to put all this money into rich kids accounts. They're going to have a bunch of money at the end even though they'd.

[A]

Have the same opportunity as every other kid.

[B]

Well, same access, but maybe not same opportunity because they might not have the excess cash.

[A]

Oh, that's true.

[B]

If you don't have an extra $5,000, you don't have an extra five.

[A]

But it's also better than nothing.

[B]

It's better than nothing, right? I mean, that being said, remember when St. Paul Mayer said hey, let's open these accounts $500 and I said how stupid is that? How dumb is that? And I thought it was dumb cuz we were starting a $500 account for them. And I am such a hypocrite because I like it because. Not because it came from Donald Trump, but I like the thought now. So I don't know why I didn't like it when St. Paul came out with it. I think they might have been not, they haven't done all the thoughts when it came out originally in St. Paul.

[A]

But it is, it does just scream of basically vote buying. That is what it screams of. Because that's the same thing. Remember when Walz was campaigning against Walz Bucks and he was saying these people need $2,000 checks and none of us got anything?

[B]

No. Well, so that brings up a really good point. I don't think you should be able to name it the Trump Savings Account until it's posthumously named. Right. If 20 years from now Donald Trump dies and we're still doing this and he had Invented this in 2025, they can rename it. They can rename it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And for example, I don't think Walz should say I'm giving away Walz Bucks. You're not giving away Walz Bucks. You're returning our tax dollars back to us.

[A]

Right? That's our money.

[B]

That's our money. Trump, you're not opening a savings account. All you're doing is taking our money and turning this in. Right. But I don't like, and maybe there should be a law about this. Where was it? Someone was just having a bridge named after them or a building named after them. It's like you're still alive, dude. You don't get bridges named after you when you're still alive.

[A]

Trump did add his name to the Kennedy Center.

[B]

Oh, that's cool though, right?

[A]

Yeah, sure.

[B]

You know, remember, here's another thing that I told you. I really lost my faith in Donald Trump when he accepted the airplane from the Saudis. Right?

[A]

Yeah. You did not like that.

[B]

I did not like that. I still don't like that. I think it's total bullshit. Total bullshit. Do you hear? It's almost ready for him.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

They thought it was gonna take four years. You know what happens when you put the full force and full pocketbook of the US Government behind something? You get it done quite quick. So remember the other day when he was flying out to Davos and they had to turn back because there was electrical air on the plane? They said, hey, what are the chances? But this other plane is almost ready for you now I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. What is going on? How is that possible? I like the concept of these Trump savings dollars. Don't like the fact that they're called Trump. Don't like the fact that they're saying it's U.S. treasury.

[A]

It's not.

[B]

It's. Some people are gonna give to other people, right? That's what taxes are. They take them from some people that are paying it and we're gonna give it to some other people. But, you know, if I had a child, they'd get the $1,000 too. I don't know if you know who Michael Dell is. I'm sure you know who Michael dell is, right? One people in the world. He gave $6 billion to this. He donated $6 billion, which will be, I think, $250 to all the children born during this time period.

[A]

Holy crap.

[B]

That's quite the donation. That's quite the donation. And companies all over are saying, we're gonna match. We're gonna match donations. Just like a 401k for kids.

[A]

He donated $6 billion.

[B]

Some people have more money than us. $6 billion. What if he just gave me 1 million of it?

[A]

Or what if he just said, you know what, here's four, Bill. I'm gonna buy the twins and I'm actually gonna spend some money on pitching.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

And a lineup. That'd be awesome.

[B]

What would you rather have? What would you rather have all the kids born in the United States get 1,000 or $250 from Michael Dell for $6 billion worth. Or Michael Dell, buy the twins and have the twins be a real team.

[A]

I'm thinking.

[B]

You don't need to think, because I guarantee you I know the answer.

[A]

I want kids to be. I want kids to be.

[B]

Yeah, but it's only $250 per kid.

[A]

You can make your money on your own. I want to see another World Series.

[B]

You. You want to see. You want to see a win, right? You want to see. Okay, so we talked about big penises. And then Matt Khalil.

[A]

Yup.

[B]

I was making a joke because we talked about the Trump savings account, and I said that was a joke.

[A]

I was trying to see where you were going with.

[B]

That was a pretty good joke.

[A]

That wasn't bad.

[B]

You know, my wife would never tell a story about me like that. She would never do it.

[A]

No.

[B]

And I have to admit, my wife is a real, real stunner. But I absolutely regret giving her that taser for Christmas. I get it. My wife's a real stunner.

[A]

She really is.

[B]

Reuters. I know this was a short story, this show, but it was good.

[A]

Yes, it was.

[B]

It was some of our better work.

[A]

Oh, absolutely.

[B]

And we talked about some stupid topics.

[A]

We really did.

[B]

If you made a lot of work.

[A]

And we prevented talking about ICE once.

[B]

Honest to God. Honest to God. I feel like we've done something.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

If you wanted the lighter side of gl, this is it.

[A]

That's where you come as to ice, this is it.

[B]

Reavers, you are the best.

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Please do us a favor. Rate and review the show wherever you happen to be listening to the weekly Script. It helps others find the show. It helps us out as well. And we appreciate each and every single one of you. His name is Mike Frattaloni. My name is Chris Rivers. Thank you so very much for listening to the weekly Scramble podcast. We'll talk to you again next time. And until then, cheers.