The Minnesota star Tribune might as well come out and admit that they are only in business to promote the well being of Gov Tim Walz

Summary

Garage Logic – December 16, 2025

Episode Title: The Minnesota Star Tribune might as well come out and admit that they are only in business to promote the well-being of Gov. Tim Walz

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Overview

This episode of Garage Logic, hosted by Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor") along with regulars Chris Reavers, Kenny Olson, and John Hight, tackles the relationship between Minnesota's Star Tribune newspaper and Governor Tim Walz. The hosts argue that the Star Tribune operates as a mouthpiece for the governor, failing in journalistic impartiality and instead serving political interests. The show branches into broader critiques of Minnesota politics, public sector failures, the proliferation of nonprofit organizations, public transport advocacy, issues of meritocracy, race relations, and local oddities—all approached with the show's trademark mix of irreverence, common sense, sarcasm, and homespun Midwest wisdom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Star Tribune’s Political Bias and Cozy Ties to Governor Walz

(10:13–15:58, 15:58–17:31)

• The hosts criticize the Star Tribune for acting as an “apology paper” for Governor Walz, rooted in its hiring of Steve Grove, Walz’s former commissioner, as publisher.
• Opinion pieces, like Jeff Blodgett’s "Governor Tim Walz deserves reelection and could win," are mocked for their partisanship.
• Joe laments that newspapers were once neutral, recalling his own start in journalism:

  “From the day I started in newspapers until about… 1993…nothing was ever done or written because of politics…Now, it’s all about one political message.” —Joe Soucheray (11:59)

• Star Tribune is contrasted with the Pioneer Press, which the hosts say no longer cares to push any clear agenda.

Memorable Moment:
Joe concludes that today's newspaper reporters are products of "failed academies" who come with their own agendas, unlike in his early days.

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2. Minnesota's Bloated Nonprofit Sector and Public Waste

(13:14–15:58, 24:34–34:29)

• The group discusses multiple examples where state money is funneled to nonprofits that allegedly provide little value.
• Highlight: The closure of MOVE Minneapolis, a sustainable transportation nonprofit, after an audit for questionable spending is announced as a win for taxpayers.
• The hosts express skepticism about the experience or utility of nonprofit staff, exemplified by:

  “As I remember, these were pretty much all young people. None of them had any experience. They were all community activists…they have never accomplished anything.” —Joe Soucheray (26:17)

MOVE Minneapolis vs. MOVE Minnesota

• Clarified that MOVE Minneapolis, not MOVE Minnesota, is the entity shutting down (30:59).
• Both organizations are lambasted for advocating impractical urbanist ideals, such as eliminating major highways.

Key Terms to Watch:
Joe performs his signature breakdown of nonprofit “mission-statement” buzzwords—“equitable,” “sustainable,” “passionate,” “connecting communities,” “climate crisis,”—and insists these flag a meaningless or parasitic nonprofit.

“If you ever hear those words uttered by a so-called nonprofit, that nonprofit is meaningless.” —Joe Soucheray (33:10)

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3. Race, Discrimination, and the Failure of 'Wokeness'

(39:01–46:35)

• The hosts respond angrily to policies and statements by Governor Walz and Minneapolis schools they view as "leftist racism."
• Citing a DOJ lawsuit alleging affirmative layoffs in Minneapolis Public Schools:

  “If you’re a brand new black teacher…don’t worry about it. We’ll keep you and get rid of Mrs. Haberkamp…That’s racism. Walz is a racist.” —Joe Soucheray (44:49)

• Kenny and John read press releases/statements, emphasizing that lawsuits are coming not from right-wing groups but from the federal Department of Justice.
• The show claims the left does more harm to race relations than anyone.

Memorable Quote:

“The left is racist. Vitally so. Significantly so.” —Joe Soucheray (40:53)

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4. Pronouns and Progressive Culture in Government

(36:03–39:00)

• Mockery of a Hennepin County training video urging county workers to use and share their pronouns.
• The hosts lampoon the growing use of “they/them” and other identity markers in staff bios and government outreach.
• Kenny: “How many are community specialists? Those are the guys that sell you weed, right?” (36:41)
• Chris Reavers: “They make me feel respectful.” (38:54)
• Joe: “Get out of here with that pronoun.” (46:41)

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5. Election Strategy and Republican Hopes in Minnesota

(29:35–30:54, 46:46)

• Joe offers unsolicited advice for state GOP gubernatorial campaigns:
  1. Disassociate completely from Trump ("Clinging to Trump in any way will not work in this state.")
  2. Focus relentlessly on exposing waste and misuse in government grants and programs.

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6. Public Safety & "Bot" School Threats

(51:47–55:27)

• News reported about threats to local high schools (Apple Valley, Eagan, Burnsville, Rosemount).
• The show reads the messages, finds them grammatically poor, and suspects an overseas bot:

  “This is from a bot overseas. This is 100% BS…meant to inflict terror and mental anguish. I Don’t believe any of this.” —Kenny Olson (54:35)

• Discussion follows about whether authorities can track the digital origin of such threats.

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7. Mass Transit and Public Transportation Philosophy

(37:22–38:21, 34:29–37:20)

• GLers argue that transit in dense cities like New York or Chicago makes sense, but not in the Twin Cities which were built for cars and open space.

  “Public transportation in New York…makes a great deal of sense. New York was built 200 years before people thought about Minnesota…[Minnesota] wasn’t designed for that.” —Joe Soucheray (37:29)

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8. Local News Odds & Ends

• Discussion of land purchases for a Minnesota Hockey Hall of Fame, poking fun at regional rivalries and taxpayer expenditures (57:55–62:43).
• Daydreams of purchasing abandoned military property in Farmington for “Garage Logic HQ.”
• Humorous recaps of Minnesota sports disappointment on this day in history, from the Vikings' worst season to the release of David Ortiz.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Joe Soucheray on Strib’s transformation:

  “The Star Tribune today devotes itself to one political message.” (12:15)

• On nonprofit mission creep:

  “If you ever hear those words uttered by a so-called nonprofit, that nonprofit is meaningless.” (33:10)

• On Walz and race:

  “He’s a racist…Every effort is being made to excuse Somalis of thievery because they’re black. That’s racism in my estimation.” (39:39)

• On public transit in Minnesota:

  “We weren’t designed to have these phony trains running around that have just become homeless shelters.” (37:39)

• Joe on political advice:

  “A Republican candidate for governor in this state can win if they…completely [disassociate] from Trump...and present a scenario to make people understand how horribly we’ve lost our tax dollars to endless, needless programs.” (29:35)

• On pronoun culture:

  “Get out of here with that pronoun.” (46:41)

• Kenny on school threats:

  “This is from a bot overseas. This is 100% BS…meant to inflict terror and mental anguish.” (54:35)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Topic | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------|---------------------| | Star Tribune & Walz critique, media bias | 10:13–17:31 | | Nonprofit closures & government waste | 24:34–34:29 | | What’s wrong with progressive nonprofit lingo | 32:09–33:16 | | Race & inequality in schools/DOJ lawsuit | 39:01–46:35 | | Pronoun politics/training video | 36:03–39:00, 46:35 | | Republican campaign advice | 29:35–30:54 | | Bot threats to local schools | 51:45–55:27 | | Mass transit philosophy for Minnesota | 37:22–38:21 | | Minnesota Hockey Hall of Fame/new property debate | 57:55–62:43 |

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Tone & Style

The tone is sardonic, irreverent, and unapologetically skeptical of government, institutions, and contemporary cultural shifts. The hosts favor well-worn “common sense” logic, invoke copious nostalgia for how things used to be, and frequently roast both their political opponents and each other.

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For the First-Time Listener

This episode is a classic Garage Logic broadside—sharp on media/political critique, laced with inside jokes, local lore, and playful ribbing. The hosts’ frustration with Minnesota governance, media bias, and taxpayer waste comes through clearly, balanced by long-standing in-group humor about garages, squeegees, cylinder indexes, and the mythic “Gumption County.”

Those unfamiliar with Minnesota politics or '80s newspaper culture may need to listen with an ear for satire and exasperated affection. The themes—media bias, political tribalism, government inefficiency, the hollowness of “woke” language—are presented through the lens of everyday people seeking straightforward answers.

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Note: This summary excludes all sponsor reads and non-content portions as requested.

Transcript

[Joe Suchire]

Hey, Garage Logic fans. I do a podcast on the Garage Logic Network that comes out every Wednesday and Friday. Now twice a week. But here's an important caveat. There is zero logic available in my show. In the formal definition of logic, of course, life is a yin and yang kind of thing. There's the logic side and then there's the what the hell? Side, which needs to get its exercise. So come for the what the hell and stay for the. You've got to be kidding me. Mishki. Now, Wednesdays and Fridays, twice a week.

[Joe Soucheray]

Josh Arnold.

[John Hight]

Oh, nice. You sounded great when you were under duress.

[Chris Reavers]

I'm driving in my car, I turn on the radio.

[Kenny Olson]

Karma just dropped out of the sky and took a big chunk out of the back of your neck.

[Chris Reavers]

You say drive a widow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Close. Josh Arnold, investment consultant, brings you Garagelogic podcast number 1681. December 16, 2025. 58 degrees on this day. Yep, in 1939. Man, they had a lot of warm weather in 1939 and 22 below on this day in 1876. Do yourself a favor and call Josh Arnold at 952-925-5608 for a free 48 minute consultation.

[Chris Reavers]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[Josh Arnold]

Hail you.

[Joe Soucheray]

And now, from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of SP Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic, with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the crabby coffee shop, John Hight in the newsroom, and of course, the rookie here is your Flashlight King fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Succier. I think you printed this out, so look at it and tell me where that came from. I can't tell where that came from. We have a proposal from Jake Rudling. Rudling? For a new garagelogic holiday. I'm going to take it under advisement.

[John Hight]

Okay, this is serious then.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hail the Flashlight King. Hail you. That was very good. That was very inspiring to the mayor and fellow GLers. Jake hailing from Pine River, Minnesota, a loyal listener since my younger days spent absorbing Garage Logic wisdom of my aunt and uncle's abode in Anoka. As a combat Veteran, having served two tours, my cylinder index stands at a reasonable 29. Now to the point, I propose the chunk opener.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, come on.

[Joe Soucheray]

A celebration acknowledging the annual return of these pesky frozen missiles clinging to our cylinders. Picture this. On the first day the chunks appear, those icy stalactites born of winter's salty kiss and g ellers across the frozen nation will ceremoniously usher their chunked vehicles into the crisis center, AKA the garage. The ritual shall commence with the strategic removal of said chunks. A squeegee ballet to banish the brine, followed by a hearty shoveling of the icy remnants. Only then, with cylinders liberated and the garage floor cleansed, may the g eler recline amongst the garage wood. Those cherished abused planks to destined for projects unknown and partake in a frosty cold one. This holiday will promote cylinder index tasking priority in the face of winter's challenges and remind us all to give up space. Never give up space. Consider this addition to the GL calendar, a testament to our enduring spirit in the face of the mystery. Isn't that wonderful?

[John Hight]

Yeah. You're taking that under consideration.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, we at the opener forgot.

[John Hight]

All about give up space.

[Joe Soucheray]

You can't give up space.

[John Hight]

I got the guy next door to me, squeak that takes out the two stage and does everybody's sidewalk. But he does up to the curb after the plows come by, he gains about 3ft of space because he goes right up to the curb on the street.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, I don't want to propose this because I don't want to get billed for it. St. Paul doesn't have any money. There are plows that have an auxiliary blade that rides along with the plow in a horizontal position, kind of hugging the passenger door side of the truck. And then when they deposit the hump at the end of the driveway, that plow swings down, takes it, dumps it and swings itself back until the next driveway.

[John Hight]

Oh, you're implying that you haven't seen that in St. Paul? You're saying they should.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I'm saying there are trucks. No, I'm saying there are trucks that do that. St. Paul does not happen to own those trucks.

[Chris Reavers]

North Minneapolis, St. Paul has the mindset of it'll melt.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, they have that mindset. But doesn't that sound like a neat rig?

[John Hight]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're driving along, doing the plow and then when you're coming to a driveway, that auxiliary plow swings out and accumulates the plow blade's stuff and they dump it between homes. And then the auxiliary blade goes back into its resting position.

[Chris Reavers]

It's like the Calcutta Clipper.

[John Hight]

It's a neat toy.

[Chris Reavers]

Swings down, swings up.

[Joe Soucheray]

You'll recall the fellow who had some squeegee dilemmas with his bookmaker. He calls the wife the bookmaker. And we determined that perhaps he needs to take. Not perhaps he takes care of the squeegeeing. It doesn't make any Difference where you put it. She's not. Doesn't have to worry about it. That's your job. Well, the bookkeeper is weighed in. Hail the flashlight King.

[Chris Reavers]

Hail you.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's all right. I've been remiss. Your ruling, which was handed down the day before our 43rd anniversary, has kept my hands clear of the squeegee. And it allows me to attend to the matters at hand when I return from an errand and not be bogged down by dripping or pooling or whatever else constitutes a mess on the garage floor that day. I noticed the condition of the squeegee as I passed by, and it was pathetic. Warped handle, missing and torn pieces on the blade. And the metal where the handle is inserted was slightly askew. Well, a light bulb went on and another errand was needed immediately. After 43 years, gift ideas are difficult, but sometimes they are standing right in front of you. This was it. My. As anniversary gifts go, if one is paper and 25 is sterling silver, well, 43 must be squeegee. I presented the Alley king with a 30 inch neoprene silicone hybrid squeegee with an oversized ergonomic rubber coated handle. And he looked like Ralphie when he opened the Red Rider. He was speechless. Some gals might say a squeegee for an anniversary gift and gift. And to that I say, absolutely. I now know where the squeegee is, hanging on a dedicated hook near the garage door opener. I also know I don't need to be concerned with using it. He put the squeegee to use as I looked out. He was delighted with its performance and as a 21st year, kept muttering, Only 17 more days until spring. Well, back to bookkeeping and generating cardboard from daily deliveries. Good luck. Cheryl the bookkeeper Schroeder, huh? I. I wholly applaud her gift. That's abs. I got rubber floor mats one year for mother.

[John Hight]

I know you did. You've got good ones too, you know.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's what I said. These aren't just any.

[John Hight]

I didn't run to Walmart.

[Joe Soucheray]

These. I had to order these custom fitted.

[Kenny Olson]

My roommate Joe asked for new speakers for her the front of her truck.

[Joe Soucheray]

Perfect.

[Kenny Olson]

That's what I thought.

[Chris Reavers]

Perfect.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow.

[Kenny Olson]

I. I think I. I think I picked the right woman.

[Joe Soucheray]

What did you find?

[Joe Suchire]

Re?

[Joe Soucheray]

This is from Alpha News, and apparently we'd be shocked to know that taxpayers, if they knew how bad things were in Minnesota, would be outraged. And Alpha News has consulted with a county worker who unfortunately remains unidentified. But I trust Alpha. I Don't think they made this up. The county worker remains unidentified because the county worker doesn't want to suffer any consequences. Blowing the whistle. The basic thing we learned in this piece was from a few days ago. But we've had entertainment shows for two shows and I haven't been able to get to some of this stuff. What we're learning, and I think we alluded to this as much as fraud has been pathetic in this state, what really needs to be fixed is this state's entire welfare mentality. There are far too many nonprofits. There are far too many ways for the government to continue to spend money. There are too many redundancies, overlapping problems, overlapping programs. And what we learn in this piece is if the taxpayers knew how bad it was, they would be outraged. The system is built in a way that people learn how to stay on it forever. That's the problem. And we have no governor to handle this. We never have. During the Walz administration, people apparently are pretending to be impressed that he's appointed a fraud czar. It's all disingenuous. It's too late. He cannot possibly make up for the sins he's committed. He should not be the governor he should lose if he continues to run again. He is not a competent fellow and he's brought great shame and embarrassment to this state. And I wish for the love of God he would just go away and stop talking because he's a. It's just dreadful to listen to him. It's all BS and his. His pet newspaper in Minneapolis is. Is shameful the way they're here.

[Kenny Olson]

You're going to bring it up. I was about to interrupt.

[Joe Soucheray]

You go ahead. Well, you go ahead. Kenny set me up.

[Kenny Olson]

Just. It's just the headline alone. If you don't fall into a deep rage with this headline, Governor Tim Walls deserves re election and could win.

[Joe Soucheray]

And that's written by a party activist named Blodgett, is it?

[John Haidt]

Yeah. Jeff Blodgett.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, it's just. It's just.

[Kenny Olson]

It's so outrageous.

[Joe Soucheray]

To cling to the idea that this guy is actually doing something is preposterous. He hasn't done anything. The fraud happened with his knowledge. For him to pretend now that he's doing something about it is ridiculous. But the whole editorial page. You read the first letter?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

And the whole editorial page today. And this is pretty. Getting to be pretty common. They have as their publisher a guy named Steve Grove, who was Walz's commissioner of Department of Employment and Economic Development. And then for some Reason Glenn Taylor plucked him to be the publisher of the Star Tribune and as a walls apology paper they cover for him. I mean that literally. I'm not. This isn't hyperbole. It's by design. It's an embarrassment. It's not. I got thinking the other day on the service road of life because I walked the two cold days of the weekend. You know, I bottled up one time.

[John Hight]

Badge of honor. Badge of honor.

[Joe Soucheray]

This newspaper is taking sides like this either being leftist newspapers or rightist newspapers that did not exist to this extent the whole time. From the day I started in newspapers until about. I'm going to pick a year at random from 1973 to about 1993. Politics never entered my consciousness. Working for a newspaper, nothing was ever done or written. Now granted for most of that time I was sports but nothing was ever done or written because of politics. It just. It was a completely different world then. By the time I became a colonist in St. Paul I did use politics but only in fun ways because Rudy Perpich was fun to have fun with and coming out of the attic. Yeah, Jesse was fun to have fun with and. But there was still none of what you see today. I did not ever work for a newspaper that continues to this day that devote. That devoted itself to one political message. The Star Tribune today devotes itself to one political message. The Pioneer Press doesn't. What happened to the Pioneer Press got all over the map.

[John Hight]

What happened to the Walker Lundy's and the Deb Howells?

[Joe Soucheray]

Newspapers are dying. They don't have the revenue they did. They're all making a push to go digital. They're fading from the landscape. The reporters are a different breed than they were when I was younger. They're coming out of failed academies. They come with agendas. The newspapers are not what they were 50 years ago.

[Chris Reavers]

Do you remember your first non sports related column?

[Joe Soucheray]

Not really.

[Chris Reavers]

Really?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, no. I mean that's 10,000 columns ago.

[Chris Reavers]

I get that. But I guess the only reason I'm thinking of when you brought it up.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is it wouldn't have been politics.

[Chris Reavers]

It would have been a new.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I was probably. It was my first one. It was probably. Well, here I am. I. I'm a St. Paul Light, blah blah blah.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, let's go find that Minnesota State Fair sign. Yeah, yeah, something like that.

[John Hight]

Was Deb Howell the one that dressed down Patrick a dozen years after he left the.

[Kenny Olson]

But Joe, you as a columnist being political, that doesn't bother me at all. Columnists are completely different from.

[Joe Soucheray]

It took Me a long time to even embrace that.

[Kenny Olson]

I see.

[John Haidt]

Can I throw one thing in, though? Because we're mixing two things here. The Blodgett piece is an opinion piece.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I understand.

[John Haidt]

It's not news reporting, and it shouldn't be taken as that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, okay, here. You want the news report.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. No, I know what you're gonna go to because I did the same thing.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, here's the front page. Huh? We're worried about the Somali students. They are there lowering their profiles. Presumably that's to avoid ice. Trump's claims on fraud totals don't match the evidence. Well, they're unwilling to acknowledge that Trump did engage in some obvious hyperbole. You know, they've stolen billions. Well, it is over a billion. The Star Tribune wants to pretend that it isn't that much because apparently if the Star Tribune can say, well, it wasn't that much, it makes walls look better. They're touting the 12 week paid leave program that begins in January. And the headline is Australia vows stricter gun control. Which seems just a folly to print such a headline after a guy murders 15 people with guns in Australia. Gun control wasn't the Australian problem, just as it isn't the problem here.

[Kenny Olson]

They have some of the strictest gun control laws in the world.

[John Haidt]

Very strong.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, here's the. And here's today. I didn't want to do this today, but Kenny brought her up because there's nothing to be gained from for us being at war with the newspaper. Let them be what they want to be. Who wrote this? Rochelle Olson headline weigh Walls's fraud response against how MAGA tactics affect this state. Okay, so we're gonna. That's more Trump deflection. Okay. Cheat the print the play. Letter to the editor. Fraud, unfortunately, is ever present. Well, the very handsome picture of Walls there. Governor Tim Walls deserves reelection and could win. That's this Jeff Blodgett guy. Minnesota should not sacrifice values to attract data centers. God forbid we attract a Data center, employ 500 people.

[Chris Reavers]

A company that's actually willing to do.

[Joe Soucheray]

Business because that might affect the environment or something. And then a story about philanthropy. Giving matters, even for federal accounts. Giving rallies the spirit and the giver. Okay, what.

[Kenny Olson]

And if anybody challenges these views, and we've said this over and over again, they're known as right wing website or far right fill in the blank. Or Trump supporter fill in the blank.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, remember, we got to fight that. So we should be calling this, you know, left wing propaganda. May I tell you, what is this one? Oh, what Time is it? Is it time for me to tell you about precision door?

[Kenny Olson]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Hight]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[John Haidt]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Where is this? I have it. We have a new non profit that apparently is going out of business and it should. Remember we discussed these people. Three weeks after an audit revealed questionable spending, a Minneapolis for the American Experiment, a Minneapolis nonprofit has announced that it will shut down. MOVE Minneapolis announced last week that it will sunset at the end of the year. The nonprofit, which focused on sustainable transportation, was started in 1992 and became a subsidiary of Minneapolis Regional chamber back in 2019. Now, so sometime in the last five, six, seven years we brought this outfit up and I remember we went through their membership. Do you have it up right now?

[John Hight]

I have their website up here.

[Joe Soucheray]

Does it show their individual members? Because we were somewhat perplexed by the fact that none of them had any experience in anything, much less transportation. Only to discover all along, of course, they've been being funded by you, the taxpayer. Among their desires as activists was to get rid of 94 between the cities. Silly childish things like that. Do you have any. What other information you can.

[John Hight]

They don't give us the bios of the staff and leadership.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, that's probably because they're sunsetting them, right?

[John Hight]

Tiffany Orth is the vice president of Mobility. They have a senior outreach manager but they do not give actual bios. I'll keep poking around though.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, they're going down and there's something to be learned here. As I said earlier, Minnesota is too heavily layered in funding these redundant policy groups and calling them non profits. You already have a Minnesota Department of Transportation. How many nonprofits do you want to fund that pretend they're involved with transportation? As I remember, these were pretty much all young people. None of them had any experience. They were all community activists. Turns out we've been paying them since 19. What did it say? Since 1992. And I'm sure their membership has come and gone and they've never accomplished anything. They'll once in a while get a street closed so you can walk on it.

[John Hight]

Now, I do have current commute ambassadors and these people. This is Allison, employer entitled Clean Couch executive administrator. Her mini project, Alice is working on. Alison is working on surveying staff around the current commutes, coordinating with Move Minneapolis on a relocation fair, ensuring that resources. It's just a bunch of gobbledygook.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's all been. There's about seven of them since 1992. You've been paying for this. And God has smiled on us for some reason. And this is going out of business, which means that it was never a nonprofit. The people who worked for it were profiting and they were a government agency. If the money dries up and you're a nonprofit, then merely what you've been is a government agency.

[John Hight]

Jessica is working with Dayton YMCA members as well as staff to discuss transportation options and encourage biking, walking and public transportation.

[Joe Soucheray]

I can encourage that and I'm not asking for any money. So this is how they lived. This was funding the livelihoods of the people who were clever enough to land themselves a gig on an outfit called Move Minnesota.

[John Hight]

Sounds like just a great deal, doesn't it?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes. You in the back.

[Chris Reavers]

Let me ask you a question, Mr. Mayor. You are fresh out of the failed academy you are designed with. Trying to put together a bio and a job description for the commute ambassador for the state of New York.

[Joe Soucheray]

I would say I am very experienced in moving about. Sometimes I walk every day.

[Chris Reavers]

I put it in D. It goes to Dayton's commute ambassador.

[Joe Soucheray]

Anyway, they're going out of business, which is a ray of hope.

[Kenny Olson]

But did you know why?

[Joe Soucheray]

They don't have any money. What does it say?

[John Hight]

Bring me the news. Also has one.

[Kenny Olson]

Also, it's way better than that.

[John Haidt]

Oh, yeah, it's better.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, help me then, because I don't.

[John Haidt]

Have a very long.

[Kenny Olson]

Closing down after an audit revealed high risk and questionable misuse of federal funds.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, that's right. That's where I started it with an audit found questionable spending. So not only did they not do anything in regards to transportation, they were cheating anyway. It's just. Here's the deal. A Republican, a Republican candidate for governor in this state can win if they do a couple of things.

[John Hight]

Okay, what?

[Joe Soucheray]

One, they have to. They just have to be completely independent of Trump. In my estimation, clinging to Trump in any way will not work in this state. It might work in other states. It will not work in this state. You've already got this buffooned governor who's deflecting everything he can onto Trump. He's running against Trump for governor. A clever Republican candidate will realize that the future of Minnesota does not lie with Trump and must disassociate himself or herself with Trump. Number two, you've got to present a scenario to the people of Minnesota to make them understand how horribly we've lost our tax dollars to endless and needless programs that are presumably outside the purview of the government, but you taxpayers have been funding them. Thus MOVE Minnesota, for example, unneeded accomplish nothing and now turns out to possibly have been committing fraud. Yes. You on the other screen.

[Kenny Olson]

I think John and I have the same point. Go ahead, John.

[John Haidt]

Well, I'm not sure, but we're talking about two different organizations here.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

MOVE Minneapolis is the one that is going away. MOVE Minnesota is still fully functioning and doing quite well.

[Joe Soucheray]

And there's two of them.

[Joe Suchire]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I'm sorry. Didn't I read? MOVE Minneapolis has announced that it's.

[John Haidt]

That's the one. You were correct.

[Kenny Olson]

And the only point I want to bring up, and it's very, very minor, it's MOVE Minnesota that's obsessing about shutting 94 down between the downs.

[Joe Soucheray]

But so did MOVE Minneapolis when we were talking about them initially years ago.

[Kenny Olson]

They're behind anything that get. Gets rid of automobiles.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, Right.

[John Hight]

They have a no car campaign.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John Hight]

Why? Transit.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Does MOVE Minnesota have a different mission statement than MOVE Minneapolis or are they one and the same?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, that's statewide movement. Minneapolis was urban movement.

[Chris Reavers]

You can spool it up because you're on the freeway with MOVE Minnesota.

[John Haidt]

MOVE Minnesota leads the movement for an equitable and sustainable transportation system that puts people first. We are passionate about connecting communities, ending the climate crisis, expanding access to jobs and resources, and improving daily life for Minnesotans of all ages, races, incomes and abilities.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, John, start it over. And every time I stop, you stop. In fact, I'll just adopt you vocally start that sentence over again.

[Kenny Olson]

Read the headline too, John.

[John Haidt]

Putting people first.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, go ahead.

[John Haidt]

Moving.

[Joe Soucheray]

Move.

[John Haidt]

I'm sorry. Move. Minnesota leads the movement for an equitable.

[Joe Soucheray]

Stop. Write these words down. Write these words down. Equitable. Equitable. Now continue.

[John Haidt]

And sustainable.

[Joe Soucheray]

Stop.

[John Haidt]

Write down sustainable transportation system that puts people first. We are passionate.

[Joe Soucheray]

Stop. Put passionate down about connecting communities. Stop. Connecting communities.

[John Haidt]

Ending the climate crisis.

[Joe Soucheray]

Stop. There is no climate crisis. Write down climate crisis.

[John Haidt]

Expanding access to jobs and resources and improving daily life for Minnesotans of all ages, races, incomes and abilities.

[Kenny Olson]

Can I read those back to you now?

[Joe Soucheray]

Now read their words back to me.

[Kenny Olson]

Equitable, Sustainable. Passionate, Connecting communities. Climate crisis.

[Joe Soucheray]

If you ever hear those words uttered by a so called nonprofit, that nonprofit is meaningless.

[Chris Reavers]

We're scamming you.

[Joe Soucheray]

We're here to take your. You were here for one reason.

[Chris Reavers]

To bleep us.

[Joe Soucheray]

To bleep you. And we're going to take your money if hear those words. That's all it is. That's brilliant. That's all it is. We're here for one reason. To eat. We're going to get fed by you.

[Kenny Olson]

Speaking of us getting screwed, I've been very frustrated that MnDOT has been giving these guys the time of day with their rethinking 94 nonsense when they admit on their own website that this isn't going to happen. So two or three weeks ago, I emailed the director of rethinking mini 94 the she works for MnDOT, asking how much money they have spent to date on all the studies and meetings and everything else associated with rethinking i94. You know what her reply was? Nothing. She hasn't replied. She's never going to reply. But why would they do that? Why would MnDOT give these guys the time of day?

[John Hight]

Now, here is the executive director of Move Minnesota.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is this Move Minnesota or Move Minneapolis?

[John Hight]

This is Minnesota. And she does have a bio and you're gonna be impressed.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right.

[John Hight]

MJ Carpio is the Executive Director of Move Minnesota. In her previous roles as our political director and campaign manager, MJ focused on successfully dedicating funding for public transit and championing our nation leading climate law through grassroots and political organizing. Her work today is informed by a breadth of past experiences from working at the intersection of transportation and other.

[Joe Soucheray]

Stop anytime you hear the word intersection. Okay, that's a bad sign.

[John Hight]

All right. And let's see. Other essential is a policy aide at the Minneapolis City Council to organizing candidate and issue campaigns, conducting research at a neuroscience lab, working in restaurants, among others. She is a lifelong public transit rider. From jeepneys and tricycles to the New York City subway and metro transit and sees the expansion and reimaging stop.

[Joe Soucheray]

Reimaging has got to be put down.

[John Hight]

Add that to the list of multimodal transportation systems.

[Joe Soucheray]

Put down multimodal. They love the word modal.

[John Hight]

What the hell does that even mean as integral? Integral to improving everyday lives, connecting communities, wrapping it up here and adapting to climate change.

[Joe Soucheray]

There is no climate change.

[Kenny Olson]

One more thing, Matthew.

[John Hight]

Outside work, she enjoys biking, reading nonfiction and cooking for and sharing food with.

[Joe Soucheray]

People and her cat.

[Kenny Olson]

So I went to the page where Matthew found her. MG, Carpio, our team, every single one. What did you notice, Matthew? Every single photo and name has their pronouns.

[John Hight]

Yes? Oh, yeah, everywhere. She, her, they're all she, her. What is she, she, her. But then Abdinasar Nukarudi, the one man, he, him, policy and community specialist.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, he's a community specialist.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, what does that mean?

[John Hight]

Ella Schoffman, the director of strategic partnerships. How do you do this? She, they.

[Joe Soucheray]

She, they they is plural.

[Kenny Olson]

How many are community specialists? Those are the guys that sell you weed, right?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. Back to the Republican candidates. This is what needs reform. This state needs to be cleansed of this waste.

[John Hight]

We don't need to set them anywhere.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's not accomplishing anything. These are people who have jobs that cannot be measured for achievement. You know when you go up to somebody like that and say, can you tell me what you've achieved? I have talked to a lot of people about the pleasures of public transportation. Well, that's not an achievement, that's just you're chewing the fat with somebody.

[John Hight]

Yeah, the bios are pretty funny.

[Kenny Olson]

Why would you think that something that works in New York, Manhattan, would work here?

[John Hight]

Well, you can't find a parking place.

[Joe Soucheray]

I've said it a million times. Public transportation, like in New York and Chicago makes a great deal of sense.

[John Hight]

It's wonderful.

[Joe Soucheray]

New York was built 200 years before people thought about Minnesota. It's dense. It makes sense. By the time Wanderlust got out here to the prairies, what people desired was wide openness. And we have streets. And you might want to live 10 miles from where you work and there's a road to drive there. We weren't designed to have these phony trains running around that have just become homeless shelters. We weren't designed for that. Never were. And they'll never pay them for themselves.

[John Hight]

I use he, him and his, and when someone uses my pronouns, it makes me feel respected.

[Joe Soucheray]

I use he, him, and asking for someone else's pronouns helps me avoid misgendering.

[John Haidt]

My co workers.

[John Hight]

I use they.

[Joe Soucheray]

Them pronouns. Sharing my pronouns creates an inclusive environment.

[Kenny Olson]

Chris, I can't do this.

[Joe Soucheray]

I can't either. That's from Hennepin county.

[Chris Reavers]

It sure is.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really? Yeah.

[Josh Arnold]

That.

[Joe Soucheray]

We didn't. That's not a bit.

[Chris Reavers]

That's a training video.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's. That's a training video from him.

[Kenny Olson]

Come on, Tony, Put that on the show.

[John Haidt]

Gee whiz.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, man.

[Chris Reavers]

They make me feel respectful.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, let me tell you what. Let me tell you something else that Walls is.

[Chris Reavers]

Tell you something right now.

[Joe Soucheray]

He's a racist.

[Chris Reavers]

Really?

[Joe Soucheray]

John, what's that quote you discovered over the weekend? You and Kenny were talking about it. There's. Walls was asked about blaming Somalis or something to that effect. I closed it, but I couldn't find it.

[Kenny Olson]

It requires backgrounding.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, background it for me.

[Kenny Olson]

I noticed a quote, and this is paraphrasing sloppily. Somebody asked him about holding Somalis accountable and he said something about, how about holding white people accountable? And I didn't do any background or fact checking on it. I think John did find something, though.

[John Haidt]

He was. Go ahead.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm sorry. Every effort is being made to excuse Somalis of thievery because they're black. That's racism in my estimation. You are treating them unequally. They're not equal. In your eyes, Walls and all the rest of you frauds who perpetrated this fraud, you are racist. The left is racist. Vitally so significantly so. The left is racist. John, did you find it yet?

[John Haidt]

Yep. He was asked, do you want to see more ownership and oversight from within the Somali community about fraud, et cetera? He answered, look, it's not law abiding citizens. If that were the case, there's a lot of white men should be holding a lot of white men accountable for the crimes they've committed. I think for the community to maybe educate their population. Because I think what you're seeing here is there's secondary victims in this, that there's providers inside the community that are then victimizing the community themselves by signing them up. Because we're going to. Some of these people, they're like, I had no idea I was in this program.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I don't even know what the hell he's. He's tripping over himself there. But he's a racist because he's trying to excuse black people from having to follow the law.

[Kenny Olson]

What I heard is that we should be holding him, a white man, accountable for all of this fraud.

[Joe Soucheray]

Believe me, Walls, I am holding you accountable and you're white. As far as I'm concerned, you should be in a prison cell.

[Chris Reavers]

Wait, so you agree with him?

[Joe Soucheray]

Absolutely, I agree with him, so long as I can hold him accountable.

[Chris Reavers]

Right.

[Joe Soucheray]

Now, here's another example of leftist racism.

[Chris Reavers]

I didn't mean to interrupt you, but.

[Joe Soucheray]

While you always do well.

[Joe Suchire]

What?

[Joe Soucheray]

Come on.

[Chris Reavers]

No, the whole point is he's been the most destructive person and he's white in the entire history of the state of Minnesota.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes, he has.

[John Haidt]

And he is white.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's another example of leftist racism. The Trump administration has filed a lawsuit against the Minneapolis Public School system this week, claiming that the district's teacher contract gives preferential treatment to educators of color. This preferential treatment is plainly discriminatory and unlawful claims. The federal complaint from the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, which alleges discrimination on the basis of race, color, national origin and sex. Minneapolis Public Schools will not comment. Marcia Howard, the president of the Minneapolis Federation of Teachers, also declined to comment. Release the Epstein files. That's all I'm saying. She said. That's the head of the teachers union's response to a lawsuit filed against them for discrimination. What does she do? She deflects.

[John Hight]

Release the Epstein file.

[Joe Soucheray]

Release the Epstein files. This woman is useless. The complaint stems from a provision. Here's the racist part. The complaint stems from a provision in the teacher contract settled in March 2018 to end a three week strike of the Minneapolis Federation of Teachers. Typically, teachers receive layoffs and involuntary reassignments based on seniority. But this rule often privileges white teachers because teachers of color are more likely to be new to the classroom. In the Minneapolis teacher contract adopted in March of 2022, underrepresented teachers can retain their jobs out of seniority order. In other words, if you're a brand new black teacher, we don't treat you equally. We'll get rid of a white teacher and promote you because of your skin color. These people are racist. Now, if a black teacher's been there all along, she or he better keep their job over a white teacher.

[Kenny Olson]

Amen.

[Joe Soucheray]

But nobody operates that way anymore because that's garage logic. It makes too much sense. There's no political points to be scored, right? This provision in the contract sparked right wing outrage. Well, it should spark normal human being outrage. But the leftists will never admit they're racists and lawsuits in state court, blah, blah. The case came before the Minnesota Supreme Court in October of 2024. In practice, the contract provision has yet to come into play because Minneapolis Public Schools have not laid off any teacher since 2010. Attorney Tim Sullivan, arguing for the Minneapolis Public Schools, told the Minnesota Supreme Court during October oral arguments that the district had not spent any funds to implement this provision of the contract. So they haven't. So they haven't. They haven't exercised their racism yet, but they have the language that will allow them to exercise their racism. That's all I had. You're telling black, young, black teachers, no matter how good they are at teaching, that, look, in the event of layoffs, don't worry about it. We'll keep you and we'll get rid of Mrs. Haberkamp who's been here 40 years. Yeah, that's racism. Waltz is a racist.

[Kenny Olson]

It's worth noting one more time reiterating that this is coming from the Department of Justice. This is a federal case.

[Joe Soucheray]

To which the union head in Minneapolis responds, oh, yeah, well, release the Epstein files.

[Kenny Olson]

That's their response to me, Joe, that's an admission of guilt right there. I know you are, but what am I?

[Joe Soucheray]

These people are racist. The left has done more harm to race relations in this country than any other entity. Somebody prove me wrong.

[Kenny Olson]

I've been reading this press release from Department of Justice as you've been doing the story. There's just one little interesting line I wanted to throw in here. The lawsuit filed in the US District Court for the District of Minnesota notes that Minnesota Public schools need seeks to increase their BIPOC staffing to at least 40% by 2026, and that by 27, at least 54.3% of new teacher hires identify as black, indigenous and people of color.

[Joe Soucheray]

They're racist. God dang it.

[Kenny Olson]

I think it's important to reiterate what you just said. Also, if you're a black educator and if you've been there for a while, you're not going anywhere.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, get rid of the young white guy. He doesn't have the. Doesn't have the tenure that you do. This ain't complicated.

[Kenny Olson]

Hire people on merit, not hire people on merit.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't care if they're green, if they're teaching the math better than anybody else, don't get rid of them. Bing bang, boom.

[John Hight]

I would be a little disappointed. Creating a respectful workplace, how to normalize, sharing and asking for pronouns.

[Joe Soucheray]

Get out of here with that pronoun.

[Kenny Olson]

I need you to blow that piece of audio off. Chris, please destroy Here.

[Joe Soucheray]

I have that somewhere. I used to have that. Start playing it again.

[Chris Reavers]

Probably double.

[Joe Soucheray]

I got it. Start playing it again. Play it. Here are examples of personal pronouns. I'm sure you know most of them, but some are probably new to you.

[Kenny Olson]

Come on.

[Joe Soucheray]

Also, some people may use their names instead of pronouns, or many use multiple sets of pronouns. For example, someone might tell you my pronouns.

[John Hight]

She gone.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, we were talking about transportation. Yeah. And if you want to get on the good side of move, Minneapolis, let's go. You should ride an electric bike.

[John Hight]

Where do you get it?

[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Hight]

And Joe, if you're in St. Paul, you know that you're gonna cruise the streets on pavement.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Haidt]

Have to turn on my mic, don't I think?

[Joe Soucheray]

Joel.

[John Haidt]

Thank you, Joe. This news is brought to you by North American Banking Company Classes at Rosemount, Apple Valley Eagan High schools cancelled today after the district reported possible threats. Additionally, students at Burnsville High School were in a hole also due to the threats. A note to families sent by the district which Came after some kids were already on buses or at the school said District 196 has received notification of potential online threats toward 196 high schools today in coordination with law enforcement and out of an abundance of caution, according to the district, they decided to close the high schools for the day. Students already arrived at school returned home by buses. As For Burnsville District 191, they posted a message online saying at 7:50am We've entered a hold state as a precaution while we continue to investigate. With help of the Burnsville Police Department, officials say classes will be canceled for the rest of the day at the high school there and Burnsville Alternative High School when the hold is lifted, all students and staff are safe, according to the district.

[Joe Soucheray]

We have a source who I know and trust. We can tell you what kind of messages was being sent and I'm not.

[John Hight]

They were sent out social media wise. I'm not sure if it was Facebook, Instagram, what But there's about six messages.

[Joe Soucheray]

Some of them are difficult to make sense of.

[John Hight]

They're not proper English. One says see you all soon. The next message if they don't want to take us seriously, that's on them. If they want to die. Next message. I heard someone said they was using East View High School and Apple Valley High School as a distraction and they was going to shot it up on a random day so people think it's a false alarm. Next message that someone was me. The reason myself and my people didn't do it today because it would have been too obvious and predictable. We need you to be scare of us. This is no joke. And the next message we have been giving y' all warnings. This is y' all last one before we do something. And then the last one or second to last was the dates of Apple Valley, Eagan, Burnsville and Rosemount. The reason we doing this? To send a message. After we do the first one we are hoping to y' all will take us seriously. Each group is the amount of people who goes to that school. Group one has three, Group four has eight. Group three has two and group two has seven. And then the final one is a picture of some firearms and it says what should I shoot? Apple Valley High School.

[Kenny Olson]

What's the first thing that comes to mind?

[John Hight]

Joe, I've got something for somebody skipped English class.

[Joe Soucheray]

That was going to be my.

[John Hight]

Oh sorry.

[Kenny Olson]

No, no, it's answer much simpler than that. This is from a bot overseas. This is 100% BS. Oh really meant to inflict terror and mental anguish. I Don't believe any of this.

[Joe Soucheray]

Good. I'm glad. I hope you're right. I'm just too unfamiliar with bots to have spotted that right away.

[Chris Reavers]

And yet look at how disruptive it can be.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, 100% successful.

[John Hight]

I'm being told they canceled all after school and evening activities, which tells me they have no clue.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yet those are the actual messages the students were seeing on their phones.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, that's all bot speaking. That some moron that just logged in somewhere overseas and looked at his to do list for today and started in.

[John Hight]

Got busy drinking coffee and why not.

[Kenny Olson]

Minneapolis smoking filterless cigarettes?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, either way, it's just a horrendous look at modern life.

[John Haidt]

Rookie.

[Chris Reavers]

What difference would it make though? You said why not Minneapolis?

[John Hight]

I mean, why would they choose the 196 the Burnsville, Apple Valley, Egan area versus, you know, Minneapolis or St. Paul?

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know how the bot world works. I don't know how it would have come to that conclusion.

[John Haidt]

Hennepin County Sheriff's Office is providing more information about its role in responding to a help call from federal agents on Monday. The Sheriff's office was contacted by the Department of Homeland security at about 1:13 in the afternoon regarding a request for help in Minneapolis. The DHS told the sheriff's office that 60 to 7 agitators were surrounding and attacking agents near 29th Street west and Pillsbury Avenue. The sheriff's office said it immediately sent deputies to the scene, but the deputies did not witness any attacks or any law enforcement agents injured or needing any medical help. A crowd was blocking the federal agents from exiting, so deputies helped them leave the area, according to the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office. They said in a spokes spokesperson said for the sheriff's office, our obligations is to ensure the safety of all people in Hennepin County. Governor Wall is expected to sign two executive orders today concerning guns, according to an announcement from the governor's office. The orders will establish a statewide safety council and produce data on the cost of gun violence and promote education on safe storage. After the mass shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church and school that killed two kids and injured 30 other people, the governor wanted to call a special session to introduce stricter gun regulation. Those discussions faded when it became clear that House Republicans, they control the House, wouldn't budge on any measures. Last month, when asked if he would call a special session without an agreement in place, he said no because he didn't think it would go anywhere. During an unrelated press conference on Friday, the governor said he planned to take aggressive action on gun violence in the coming days. That would be what this is. Apparently a regular session of the Minnesota Legislature kicks on off February 17th. A guy at the Pioneer Press, Jess Myers, reporting that, well, hockey is going to have a museum in Inver Grove Heights. Are we excited about that?

[Kenny Olson]

Finish the story then.

[John Haidt]

Surprising, the Pioneer Press has confirmed through multiple sources that the new Minnesota Hockey hall of Fame complex will be built in Inver Grove Heights with construction expected to begin in the summer of 2026. The official announcement will be coming on the heels of the community City Council approving a purchase agreement on a high visibility piece of Property at its Dec. 8 meeting. That announcement is expected tomorrow. Inver Grove Heights Mayor Brenda Dietrich and the four member council met in a closed session, then reconvene to vote on purchasing the parcel of land known as Ace in the Hole, located just east of the Viking Lakes development near Interstate 494 and Argenta Trail. The proposal passed on a voice vote with one council member voting no. The parcel of formerly ag land has been touted as a potential development site for years. In a 2017 letter from then Governor Mark Dayton and economic development leaders to Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos encouraging them to locate in Minnesota, the Ace in the Hole property was listed as a 124 acre plot of land with a value of about 6 to 9 million dollars. A copy of the purchase agreement provided by the city of Infra Grove Heights calls for buying 46.43 acres of the land for $8.725 million to house the new facility in a visible spot adjacent to one of the metro areas busiest freeways. One traffic estimate has more than 85,000 cars passing that site every day on average. And the addition of a freeway interchange at Delaware Avenue is being proposed as part of the new development. The sellers had signed the purchase agreement as of Monday afternoon with plans for the city representative to sign it at their regularly scheduled Monday evening, December 15th meeting.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are you guys aware of a property for sale in Farmington that's an abandoned military unit?

[Kenny Olson]

Did they make ammunition there?

[Joe Soucheray]

No.

[Chris Reavers]

Why do you ask?

[Joe Soucheray]

Because I would love to buy it. It's. It's.

[John Hight]

Let's do it.

[Joe Soucheray]

It is the coolest thing. It's. It's a couple of acres. Yep. You could have your own racetrack. There's out buildings.

[Kenny Olson]

You can't do anything in the city.

[Joe Soucheray]

There's no way this is Farmington.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. There's no way they.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, don't be such a wet blanket. Let me finish. You.

[Kenny Olson]

No, no.

[Joe Soucheray]

I Trust, I. I know there's a house, there's outbuildings, there's roads. It was some sort of command center or communications center for missiles or whatever. And it's long since been out of use. That. That's all I had. I just thought if I had a little extra dough, I'd buy that. We would make it a British car.

[John Hight]

So it's noto destination. So it's not a residential property?

[Chris Reavers]

No.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, can we go back to reality here?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. Who's paying for the hockey museum?

[Kenny Olson]

No, the question I have is what about the museum in Evoleth?

[Chris Reavers]

That's exactly what I was going to ask. Didn't we. We already have one.

[Kenny Olson]

Because this was a big debate a year or two ago, moving the Evoleth museum down to here.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think that's what this is.

[John Hight]

Okay, but Invergrove Heights, Wouldn't you think maybe South St. Paul? St. Paul.

[Chris Reavers]

Better climate.

[Joe Soucheray]

Payne Avenue, I think.

[Kenny Olson]

Matthew, I think it's real estate prices.

[Chris Reavers]

You heard it's Dakota county, right?

[John Hight]

Oh, it's just the Minnesota hall of.

[Kenny Olson]

Is somebody talking in the background? Give him a mic. What's he saying?

[Gabe]

Joe said the Minnesota Hockey hall of Fame. Eveleth would be the United States Hockey hall of Fame.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay.

[Gabe]

So I. My guess is they're trying to build a Minnesota hall of Fame for hockey, which would be separate than the US hall of Fame.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay. Who's paying for this? Minnesota? I love hockey. Who's paying for it? The taxpayers or.

[John Haidt]

Inver Grove Heights is paying 8.72 million for the land.

[Kenny Olson]

What could they possibly have? A couple of old goalie pads and a broken stick?

[John Hight]

Jill's face mask?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, well, there's a lot of Minnesota hockey.

[Kenny Olson]

What was the major freeway you kept referring to, John? 494.

[John Haidt]

Yep.

[John Hight]

Because it's Right. It's. It's a. It's from the Vikings facility. No, I've never heard.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, and one more question, John, so we can do the Math. You said 43 some acres at a price of what?

[John Haidt]

46.43 acres. So 46 and a half, roughly. For 8.725 million.

[Kenny Olson]

Chris, are you doing the math on that?

[Chris Reavers]

Sure.

[Joe Soucheray]

What's the. What's the.

[Kenny Olson]

I want to know per acre. What the price per acre is there.

[Chris Reavers]

I mean, it. That's actually not a bad price for.

[Joe Soucheray]

That amount of 400 grand an acre.

[Kenny Olson]

Jesus.

[Chris Reavers]

But right off the freeway.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, whatever. It's enough time.

[John Haidt]

Give.

[John Hight]

Well, it's going to be behind it.

[Joe Soucheray]

We're done with this.

[John Hight]

Okay, back to the Farming. How are we going to get out?

[Joe Soucheray]

Back to my fantasy of having my own military industrial copy complex doesn't do.

[Kenny Olson]

Commercial, so I don't know how governments work.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do you? Oh, I guess I don't. Kenny. Thank God you're here.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, you know what?

[Joe Soucheray]

You're right.

[Kenny Olson]

Because they can see you coming down Highway 3 as you roll into Farmington with that beat up old British piece.

[Chris Reavers]

Of ass leaking oil everywhere with a checkbook.

[John Haidt]

I sometimes think Joe says mean things to me. But just the tone of the way he said that he was far meaner.

[Chris Reavers]

Than anything he's ever said to me.

[Joe Suchire]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

What do you want me to out for?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes. Yes. Matt. Isn't that neat?

[John Hight]

Yeah. You should buy that. I wish I scratch.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's cheap.

[John Hight]

I'll throw in 25 bucks.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's a million two or something like that.

[John Hight]

I guarantee you 2.2.

[Joe Soucheray]

2.2.

[Kenny Olson]

The first. The first thing you're going to do when you buy that is put in a little apartment and you'll never be at home again.

[Joe Soucheray]

First thing I do when I buy it is put up a gate so you can never get in.

[John Haidt]

Well, thought maybe we could do the show from down there.

[John Hight]

Oh my God.

[John Haidt]

Look at that.

[Kenny Olson]

Everybody but Ken.

[Joe Soucheray]

That is so cool. And so cool. Some billionaire is going to buy that for boats or cars.

[John Hight]

Mark my words.

[Chris Reavers]

It's just a shame that if you did acquire that property that Marjorie wouldn't be able to come on the show and talk about it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right, Joy Tell you about what your.

[Kenny Olson]

Mortgage payments are all about.

[Joe Soucheray]

It said True you pay 100,000amonth in mortgage payments.

[John Haidt]

Why don't we move along here before we get to national international news, let me tell you what you should do. Here's what you should get people for a Christmas present. An Aura Frame. It's one of the coolest things that came into our house in the past year. We took our favorite photos and videos and we have lots of them between the two phones. Loaded them into our new Aura frame. All right. Now that's about 800 items. And I guarantee you'll want to add all the new pictures and the ones you get during the Christmas season. And the Aura Frame, very easy to use. You just download the Aura app, connect it to your wi fi, start adding pictures from your phone. You can personalize your gift, add a message before it arrives even. And every Aura frame comes packaged in a premium gift box with no price tag for a limited time. Save on the perfect gift by visiting auraframes.com to get 35 bucks. Off of Aura's best selling Carver Mat frames. That frame, by the way, named number one by wirecut. You can get your money off by using the promo code GL at checkpoint. Just the letters GL. So go to auraframes.com that's a U R A frames.com promo code GL. The deal is exclusive to listeners and frames sell out fast. So order yours now to get it in time for the holidays. Support the show by mentioning us at checkout. Terms and conditions apply. Aura frames. We'll get to some national international stuff in a minute. Before we do, I gotta tell you about something. Boy, I just, I love it. We've had it in my house now for I think about three months and it makes a great Christmas gift. You might be one of those people you put off your Christmas shopping last minute and maybe buying a gift card. Well, this year I can take care of that issue for you. Get yourself an Aura frame. My wife and I took our favorite photos and videos, loaded them all into the new Aura frame. Right now that's about 750 items. And I guarantee we're gonna have a lot of new pictures to add once this Christmas season is over. And it's really, really easy to use.

[Joe Soucheray]

John, can you download them from your phone?

[John Haidt]

Just from your phone? Exactly. So I have, I had all those pictures on my phone. I got the Aura frame and I just started hitting boom, boom, boom after. Yes, all you have to do is download the Aura app and connect it to WI fi and start adding pictures. It's really easy to use. Chris, if I may use your favorite word. It literally took just a couple of minutes to set up it up.

[John Hight]

I know someone that just recently purchased this and that person is so thrilled and really thinks that that person has cheated Christmas because it's such a wonderful gift that there's no more worry.

[Joe Soucheray]

I've taken care of it.

[John Hight]

Yes. I didn't name you, but okay.

[John Haidt]

The other thing is it's, you know, we've all had picture frames in the past and they're kind of weird, cloudy, not great. This is. It looks like the actual photos in front of you. The screen is gorgeous. It's perfect. It's easy to do for a limited time. You can save on the perfect gift by visiting auraframes.com to get 35 bucks off of Aura's best selling Carver Mat frames named number one by wire cutter. All you have to do is use the promo code GL at checkout. That's a U R a frames.com promo code GL this deal is exclusive to listeners and frames sell out fast, so order yours now to get it in time for the holiday. Support the show by mentioning us at checkout. Terms and conditions apply. It can wrap togetherness, but you can't frame it. Aura Frames.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's a man who spends hours in hardware stores sifting through the nuts and bolts of life.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe Sushi Everything that's old is new again. If you want something really reliable, you're not going to get it from that brand new green machine that you've got plugged. That block heater plugged in with a battery tender on it. That thing ain't going to start when it's 20 below out. You know it is going to start. That old cruddy international sitting out behind the shed, not plugged in gasoline. The only thing that's happened to this thing is you dump a lot of seafoam in it on a regular basis. So it happened to a friend of a friend up here over the weekend when it was so cold he couldn't fire up the new green machine. But that was old red one that fired right up in the cold weather. And I attribute all of that to, well, old machinery is always better. And seafoam, everything is better with seafoam. It doesn't matter if it's diesel gas, two stroke, four stroke, single cylinder, 12 cylinder, seafoam is always the answer. The motor treatment is fantastic. It preserves ignition vapors. Very important in cold weather. Among all the other benefits you get from seafoam. You know that thing's going to fire up when it's 20 below. You can find it everywhere from the NAC hardware to the big box stores. Even grocery stores carry seafoam, a wonderful product in a world of bad gas, seafoam.

[John Haidt]

In national and international news, police are continuing their search for the gunman who killed two Brown University students and wounded nine others. They've now released multiple videos and images showing some of they say is a person of interest. Providence Chief of Police Colonel Oscar Perez yesterday released additional videos of a person dressed in black. Doesn't show a lot. They're wearing a face mask walking near the area of Hope and Benevolent Street. They were taken around two in the afternoon on Saturday, two hours before the first 911 call came in on the day of the shooting, perez told reporters. We believe that's the same individual that we showed you from the previous videos that we released earlier. The Providence Police Department shared a different video of who they said was a person of interest and urged the public to contact the FBI Tip center line if they recognize the individual. FBI yesterday announcing a reward of up to $50,000 being offered for information that leads to the identification, arrest and conviction of the suspect. Federal authorities yesterday announced four people have been arrested on charges of plotting New Year's Eve bombings at multiple sites of two US companies in Southern California. Court records identified the suspects as members of an anti government group known as as the Turtle Island Liberation Front. The individuals were arrested last week in the Mojave Desert while they were preparing to test explosives. One member allegedly provided a confidential FBI source with an eight page plan of the attack that was called Operation Midnight Sun. That plan detailed simultaneous bombings at five locations of Amazon type logistics centers. The plan included instructions for building pipe bombs, avoiding DNA evidence, using burner phones and exploiting fireworks to make mask explosions. The suspects are all from the LA area, age 24, 30, 32 and 41. They face charges of conspiracy and possession of an unregistered destructive device with additional charges expected.

[Joe Soucheray]

Can I interrupt for a moment, John, and get back to Kenny with a question? If those threats in District 196 were in fact a bot, some sort of foreign influence that just created this just for the hell of it, do authorities have the means to determine that?

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, what a wonderful question. I don't know. But you would think in the ideal world that they would know right away. But I can't answer.

[Joe Soucheray]

Gabe is saying yes, they have the means to identify that. They do, yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, so should I retract?

[Gabe]

Well, they would be able to track the IP address of where the messages came from. Which is every single electronic device will have an individualized IP address.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Gabe]

So anybody who is using this specific computer, they can track it back to that computer.

[Kenny Olson]

All right, so Gabe, would you consider those threats legitimate?

[Gabe]

I would say so, but I mean again, don't quote me because there's. I think there's a lot that they'll find out in these coming hours and days. And they'll definitely find the person or at least the location of where it came from.

[Chris Reavers]

And here, with a thorough breakdown of what an IP address is the mayor, Joe, Such.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, it's individual personality, right? The, the bot, the IP gives some indication of mental stability. Okay, thank you.

[Kenny Olson]

So David, isn't it more like it's like your mailing address, right?

[Gabe]

No, I mean, are you talking about your email address?

[Kenny Olson]

No, your IP address. It's just a way of tracking you.

[Gabe]

Yeah, it's, it's the computer. Because a computer talks to another computer with numbers.

[Joe Soucheray]

What does IP mean?

[John Hight]

Internet Protocol?

[Gabe]

Yeah. Internet protocol. So everything will have it. Your phone, your laptop, your tv, your computer. Anything with access to the Internet.

[Joe Soucheray]

Internet protocol.

[Gabe]

Yeah, he is right. I just.

[Joe Soucheray]

Where the hell did you pull that idea?

[John Hight]

I was gonna go with IP freely, but I just went with Internet.

[John Haidt]

Now.

[Joe Soucheray]

Slashes. Wow. Period in origin. Yep.

[John Haidt]

But you can hide your IP address, Gabe, right? With like virtual private.

[Gabe]

Yeah, you can, but I mean, a federal government. Think of like the NSA and Edward Snowden. That doesn't mean anything to the technology they use. They'll knock that down no matter what.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

Gotcha.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

All right.

[John Hight]

Kind of like I'm going to. Kenny.

[Joe Soucheray]

Kenny Sticking with this theory.

[John Hight]

Yep.

[Kenny Olson]

No, I'm going with Gabe. Okay, then I totally backed out.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, then we have to take these more seriously than we thought.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. The US has agreed to provide unspecified security guarantees to Ukraine as part of a peace deal to end Russia's nearly four year war. More talks now are likely this weekend, according to U.S. officials. The official said talks with President Trump's envoys, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, led to narrowing differences on security guarantees that Kyiv said must be it, as well as on Moscow's demand that Ukraine concede land in the Donbas region in the country's east. The President dialed into a dinner last night with negotiators and European leaders. More talks are expected this weekend in Miami or elsewhere in the U.S. according to officials. U.S. unemployment rate rose to 4.6% in November, its highest in more than four years, fueling questions about the American economy's underlying strength. A long delayed government report on Tuesday showed that 64,000 jobs were gained in November, while 105,000 jobs were lost in October. The unemployment rate in November rose to 4.6% from 4.4 in September last month that the Labor Department had reported the unemployment rate. Job losses in June, August and October mean the US economy has shed jobs in three out of the past six.

[Chris Reavers]

Months, a number that was way above my pay grade was about what John just mentioned, the fact that many of these positions were occupied by people in this country illegally. Is that with the U.S. department of labor statistics? Are we able to determine that job deal?

[Joe Soucheray]

I have no idea.

[John Haidt]

No idea. Okay. I don't know. Meanwhile, speaking to the economy, a series of national polls are showing that President Trump is facing some sustained disapproval over his handling of the US economy. Some Republicans are worried these are warning signs for the upcoming election in 2026. Among the polls, an AP NORC poll conducted Dec. 4 through the eighth February, that only 31% of Americans approve of the president's handling of the economy. Separate polling from Fox News conducted Nov. 14 through the 17th found that 76% rate the U.S. economy negatively under Trump, up from 70% at the end of the Biden administration. Voters blamed Trump for the economic situation at a 2 to 1 ratio over former President Biden. The Trump administration yesterday unveiled a new initiative dubbed the Union US Tech Force. It comprises about 1,000 engineers and other specialists who will work on artificial intelligence, infrastructure and other technology projects through the federal government Participation. Participants will commit to a two year employment program, working with teams that report directly to agency leaders in collaboration with leading technology companies. Media News Howard Stern is sticking with Sirius xm. The radio host has inked a new three year deal with the satellite radio company he announced this morning. Stern said, I'm happy to announce I figured out a way to have it all, more free time and continuing to be on the radio. Stern's future with Sirius XM had been the topic of tabloid fodder for months after a report earlier this year suggested that his show was about to be canceled. Stern would go on to prank his listeners and some of the media by hyping his return to the radio, only to have Andy Cohen sign on to announce that Stern had been fired and that he would be taking over his channel. Stern eventually came on and said that he and Sirius XM were still negotiating over his future. The terms of his new deal were not immediately clear, although Stern said that it was for three years and would allow to have what he called more flexibility. His last deal was a five year deal worth an estimated $100 million per year.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wasn't Andy Cohen just found slumped against a light post in LA passed out? Who might think is Andy? Andy somebody?

[John Haidt]

Andy.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, Andy Dick. That's right. Thank you, John. Thank you.

[Chris Reavers]

Andy Dick was found something?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, overdosed.

[John Haidt]

And the next day he said he didn't have a problem, he just likes to try crack once in a while.

[John Hight]

Who doesn't?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, we're done.

[John Haidt]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

I mean we're done with this moment.

[Chris Reavers]

Let's talk about Masters Maples and Masters Maples dot com. I got a great email. Email. Tiffany bought her husband the savory seasoning from Masters Maples prime rib over Thanksgiving weekend.

[John Hight]

Oh, that would be good.

[Chris Reavers]

First of all, Tiffany, why did you not invite us? Or maybe drop by a sample of that? But that's the beauty of masters [e-mail], go onto their website right now and you can see all of their different gift packs that they have available. Of course you're going to get get the 100% pure Minnesota Maple syrup and the best that there is to offer. And that's courtesy of our buddy Ben, a loyal gler and the brain trust behind mastersmaples.com, but you've also got, like I mentioned, those sweet and savory seasonings and rubs and also 100% pure maple sugar for the bakers that are in your life. And it's wonderful stuff. And you know what? You cannot go wrong with a gift pack from masters maples and mastersmaples.com you can go on that website, but you can also go into all of your free fratelloni's hardware and garden stores locations to get that fine, fine quality products. But again, place your order [e-mail] and you can taste the difference and let them know you heard about them here on the garage logic podcast.

[John Hight]

What does it mean? It's a good song.

[Joe Soucheray]

This guy wears many hats, just not indoors. Joe Sushira.

[John Hight]

I'll tell you one of the hats he wears and that is the acquisition hat. When he's looking for the right Christmas holiday gift. Doesn't matter. He knows to go suchi knows to go to the garagelogic holiday online auction that is live and in living audio color. Do you know that?

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[John Hight]

Do you know that?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes.

[John Hight]

Do you know that it starts this Friday, right? Runs through Thursday, 12 18.

[Joe Soucheray]

We can't bid on.

[John Hight]

Do you know what's in there? Yeah, yeah. Last Friday. It's live right now, right? Did I say that?

[John Haidt]

No.

[John Hight]

Oh, did I say it starts Friday? Okay, well, it's in the copy. I didn't get the updated.

[Joe Soucheray]

There you go. Right here.

[John Hight]

You can win a cheap Timex watch. Yeah, apparently he just pointed to with the little xlax. He got the little xlx watch.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[John Hight]

Or Timex or whatever it is. Eco fun Motorsports Garage Floor geeks drive attention Tank deer run golf course. There's so many great things on there. Go to garage.

[Joe Soucheray]

If I got that place, you could bring your tank out there and drive it.

[John Hight]

They would for sure they would do that.

[Kenny Olson]

That's a government won't.

[John Hight]

Drivetank.com I love their website too, Kenny. It's driveatank.com. it's like tells you what it is, doesn't it?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, it does, man.

[John Hight]

Garagelogic.com Enter keyword auction. You have to register then you view and bid on all of the items. Again, it's runs through the 8pm on Thursday 12:18 things are going fast.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's gonna be over before you get this done.

[John Hight]

It might even be done. So I'm throwing away this copy. Garagelogic online auction.

[Chris Reavers]

I would like to point out that I believe we did just set a new garagelogic record.

[John Hight]

How so?

[Chris Reavers]

Well, in which I believe you got eight seconds into that read before Joel looked at his watch.

[John Hight]

I know. How does that work?

[Joe Soucheray]

Say the traveling Lymans.

[John Hight]

Are we there already? It's 1:30.

[Joe Soucheray]

The traveling linemans have now rented a car in Auckland, New Zealand and then they drove 90 minutes to Kuarka, New Zealand, where we have a rental vacation home. We'll be living there until February 12th. Honest to God, I can't wait till we have them back in studio.

[John Hight]

Where?

[Chris Reavers]

Where is this again? I'm sorry.

[Joe Soucheray]

They're in New Zealand.

[John Hight]

Oh, man.

[Joe Soucheray]

And you can follow their travels on Worldwide Waftage. One word. Worldwide Waftage.com. and it's only because they come to us all the way in this case from New Zealand and the traveling lineman's.

[Chris Reavers]

It was on this day, Joe Today is December 16th.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, on this day in 1814, Horace W.S. cleveland was born in Lancaster, Massachusetts. A visionary landscape architect. He designed parks and boulevards in the Twin Cities, including Como Park, St. Anthony Park, Minnehaha Park, Summit Avenue and the drives along the Mississippi River. Cool.

[Chris Reavers]

On this day, Joe, December 16th in.

[Joe Soucheray]

1884, machinist William H. Freund of Minneapolis was in issued the first U.S. patent for an automatic liquid dispensing vending machine which discharged a uniform amount of liquid from a reservoir when a coin was placed in a slot. An enthusiastic fisherman, Frewen had settled earlier in the year at the western edge of the city and began excavating near his home. Home for the construction of a fish pond in which to keep his catch fresh for eating. The discovery of a pure spring in a glen led Frewin to sell jugs and then coolers of fresh water. And he founded the Glenwood Springs, now glenwood inglewood water company.

[John Hight]

Copy.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's what we do on this day, December 16th. In 1889 seems like yesterday, the Minneapolis Public Library opened with Herbert Putnam as librarian. Under an agreement with the Minneapolis and. That word Athenaeum, the public library board provided a building and stage to lend the Athenaeums books, thereby making them available to the citizens of Minneapolis. On this day in Minnesota, sports, disappointment, history. Quite a few have back then, quite a few, Matt. On this day.

[Chris Reavers]

Who'd we lose to on December 16th?

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day in 1984, Vikings. Les Steckles last game as head coach, they lost to the packers and had a 313 season. The worst record in team history. History. Now hold on a minute.

[John Hight]

Who had the story then?

[Joe Soucheray]

Check this out.

[John Hight]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

In 1984, the season was over by December 16th.

[Chris Reavers]

Wow, that's a good point.

[Joe Soucheray]

Holy mackerel. Yeah, but then because they only played.

[John Hight]

16 games of bud Grant coming back.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know.

[John Hight]

You did Dark Star and you guys.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I don't really.

[Chris Reavers]

That wasn't the strike year because the striker was 87 correct.

[John Hight]

Bucky Scribble, Bugner.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know.

[John Hight]

Was the punter.

[Chris Reavers]

You're asking what?

[Joe Soucheray]

Like on this day in 1991, Carl Polad sold his shares in the Vikings. I didn't know he had it.

[John Hight]

What year?

[Joe Soucheray]

I forgot completely. 91.

[John Hight]

91.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, this was a. This was an unfortunate day. What day is this?

[Chris Reavers]

December 16th.

[Joe Soucheray]

In 2002, baseball don't say contraction.

[John Hight]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

The Twins released David Ortiz. Oh, no.

[John Hight]

Kelly. He want me to hit like a bitch.

[Joe Soucheray]

That was. That was a bad day for the franchise. I suppose they couldn't afford him, right?

[Chris Reavers]

No, it was injury related, which is why they released him.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, he certainly rebounded.

[John Hight]

Yeah, but TK wanted him to hit.

[Joe Soucheray]

Like that and had quite a career for the Red Sox.

[Chris Reavers]

Made the hall of Fame.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes, he did. And that concludes Farmington. Today's musings.

[Chris Reavers]

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[John Haidt]

Free.

[Chris Reavers]

Yes, I use the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk, he will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And Josh, today it's all about bubble talk.

[Josh Arnold]

It's bubble talk. It's bubble talk. Oh my goodness. The AI trade is dead. Artificial intelligence is dead. Those stocks are way too expensive. They've been bid up to astronomical levels. Oh my goodness. You've got companies buying other, other companies to become bigger in the artificial intelligence space and data centers. Why? The demand for compute keeps going up. Cities don't want to build data centers and you just think that you can have a data center up and running tomorrow. Oh, it's an awful thing. These companies. Why the analysts keep saying most of these companies resemble dot com bomb. And I'm like what are you talking about? What are you talking about? Very few the companies involved in the AI trade resemble pets.com or, or any of the other companies that were valued then just on the number of click that they got and were purely advertising based. Yes, quantum computing stock are very, very expensive on a price to sales price earnings basis even if they, you know, have any earnings at all. Nuclear power, you know, fit in the same, same way because with the amount of power that needed to run many of the data centers thought, okay, let's take a look at nuclear power. The utilities that will probably, you know, do the best are still going to be, we'll say natural gas fired and natural gas prices are down as well as here's something else, definitely not in a bubble and that's oil and energy. Oil is, oil is trading at least today a new 52 week low. And I do know that there are those commentators that you know, bring up politics of affordability. President is not making things more affordable. One of the things the President did talk about in the run up to the election was driving down the price of energy. That that has happened. That has happened. We have seen the price of energy, we'll say this, this year alone, you know, drop from $74 a barrel at inauguration, $55.58 a barrel, a significant drop in the price of oil. And that definitely is going to filter through to the rest of the economy and help bring down, we'll say some parts of, of inflation. Not necessarily going to bring down the cost of insurance, not necessarily going to bring down rent. Rent equivalent, mortgage, equivalent, rent are the two largest components of the cpi. But the price of Oil being at a lower is definitely a health war for industry. We'll say energy is not in a bubble. I don't believe many of the tech companies, the leading tech companies are will say bubble, bubble ish, so to speak. So let's, let's cut the bubble talk. Focus in on companies that are growing. We'll say slow but slow but sure and offer plenty of opportunities. Opportunities going forward. Yes, there will be, we'll say some bifurcation in the large companies that make up the S and P and Nasdaq now currently known as the Magnificent Seven. Apple, Amazon, Alphabet, owning Google. Meta, which owns Instagram, Instagram and Facebook. Microsoft, Nvidia, the chip company and Tesla. Nvidia is the knocked knock down Tesla just off a high. And when we speak of Tesla now they continue to get upgrades but it's not necessarily on the sale of their cars. It's on the Hope for Robots and Robo Taxi. But excuse me, Is not the leader in will say autonomous taxis. The leader is Waymo, owned by that little company called Alphabet or Google. In second place is Zoox, which is owned by Amazon. Huh. Going to be an interesting battle there.

[Chris Reavers]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G ers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, once again, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Look forward to it. Thanks Chris.

[John Haidt]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[John Haidt]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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