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Galen Drouck
Am I allowed to guess how expensive the tickets were? Is it. Was it over? Okay. Was it over $30,000?
Nate Silver
No, no. Under. Galen, come on, man.
Galen Drouck
Come on. I don't know. You were. You were just in Vegas in the World Series of Poker. Like, maybe. Maybe somebody threw down a couple Knicks tickets on the table and you were ready to party. Okay, so it was. But it was over 15k.
Nate Silver
No. Under.
Galen Drouck
No. It was weak. So I have a really bad perception of how expensive where were. Tell me where you were sitting.
Nate Silver
I had what I think are great seats. So I was in the 200 level, which is the. There's two big bowls, right? 200 level, second level. But I had, like, center court, basically just a couple of rows up in the 200s. And we're going to save you. I'm going to save people money out there. Here's the big exploit. The best 200 level seats at Madison Square Garden, which is a great arena, are better than the worst 100 level seats, and they're. And they're cheaper.
Podcast Narrator
Hello, and welcome to the GD Politics Podcast. I'm Galen Drouck. Today's episode is a conversation I had with Nate Silver as part of a substack live on Tuesday afternoon. We spent most of the time talking about Graham Platner's candidacy in the main Senate race. Nate had some spicy takes. As you will hear, that primary is now completed as of Tuesday night. And with 80% of the expected vote tallied, Graham Platner received 72% of the vote. Although Janet Mills had already dropped out of the race, her name was on the ballot and she received 20% of the vote.
Galen Drouck
Call it a protest vote.
Podcast Narrator
Nate and I also discussed the political risk of a quagmire after the United States renewed strikes on Iran in retaliation for a downed Apache helicopter. We also got into why California takes so long to count its votes and whether that actually means the state has a better system. Lastly, we discussed what went into Nate's World cup forecast model. Things like national GDP and total market value of a team's players, and how similar it is to a priority residential forecast model. We did also talk about the Knicks as we both live in New York City. However, I did not include that in today's episode. If you are a basketball fan, you can catch that part of the conversation in the video on GDPolitics.com. all right, we begin with the Graham Platner Susan Collins matchup in Maine.
Galen Drouck
Graham Platner will win the Maine Democratic primary tonight and will go on to compete against Susan Collins for a Senate seat this fall. Now, of course, there are some edge cases where he could drop out, et cetera. I think, as you discussed in your piece, looking at the main Senate race, he could drop out by July and the main Democratic party could replace him. There's no indication that anything like that is going to happen. And so we're very likely looking at a matchup between Graham Platner on the Democratic side and Susan Collins on the Republican side. There's a lot to talk about here. You can kind of take your pick. Both talking about Susan Collins, talking about Maine itself, talking about the specifics of Graham Platner, how the Democratic Party has reacted to him. Dealer's choice here. Well, I guess I'm the dealer in this case, so not my choice. Player's choice. Nate, where do you want to begin?
Nate Silver
So I think Graham Platner is a mediocre to bad cad, and I think that if he cared about the fortunes of the Democratic Party, then he would drop out.
Galen Drouck
Ooh. Okay, Spicy take. Why?
Nate Silver
Look, Maine is What, like a D 8 or D 9 state? It's actually become a little bit bluer as you've had a lot of transplants from other parts of the Midwest and the northeast up to. You know, I love Maine, by the way. I've spent a lot of time there. In fact, my grandma designed a house in Sullivan, Maine, where I'd go every summer. So that's the town that Graham Platner
Galen Drouck
is from, that both you and Graham Platner have grandparents who worked in design and architecture.
Nate Silver
Yeah, but, you know, I'm.
Galen Drouck
He's so surprised your mother didn't design windows on the world.
Nate Silver
She did not. No, she couldn't. But she was an architect, designed beautiful homes. And, um. But, like, it's. I was inclined to like Graham Platner just because of, like, the Sullivan connection. It's a town of 1900 people. Like, that's very weird. Who knows? Probably I encountered him at some point without. Without realizing it. Or maybe he was a server at a restaurant. There are only, like, four or five restaurants in Sullivan and Hancock, really, that are worth. That are worth trying. So I felt that connection there. But look, it's a D +8. D +7 generic ballot means a D +7 D +8 state. So the benchmark is that a generic Democrat in Maine should win by 15 or 16 points. It's a blue state in a blue year. Now, granted, Susan Collins has been very formidable throughout her career. She famously won, defeating Sarah Gideon in 2020 in a year where the polls had predicted a Democratic win. I would say a couple of things to that though. Number one, we have for Democrats a better political environment than in 2020. 2020 was actually not a terrific political environment. Biden won. They didn't do all that well in like the Senate and gubernatorial races. So this environment is better. Number two, partisan polarization becomes more profound every cycle, which this time around helps Democrats because it means that Maine reverts more to like its natural blue inclination. Three, I think Susan Collins's tricks are wearing a little bit thin. I mean she does take a lot of votes that doesn't are anti Trump votes half the time. But unlike in 2020 where voters might want, they might have assumed that Biden was going to win, Biden did win Maine by a solid margin. So you have a Republican Congress to counterbalance Biden here. Voters know they're getting two more years of Trump and who knows, maybe four more years of a different Republican after that. So there's no check and balance argument. And Collins is also pretty fucking old, which is a problem for Janet Mills. So I think Susan Collins is a very beatable opponent. And previously the kind of pre latest round of scandals version of Platner was ahead by her, of her by six or seven points, which seemed pretty reasonable given that she is an incumbent and does have this history. But it was no great feat. This is fucking Maine, not Mississippi or something or Texas even since the most recent round of alleged scandals, the sexting and the accusations by his former campaign manager and just kind of frankly like what a mess going to be honest man, this guy doesn't seem to have his life together. To be honest, I don't really buy this redemption arc, but he's lost that lead. If you look at polls now, it's basically a tossup with Collins. And Democrats ought to be doing better than a 5050 chance in a blue state in a blue year.
Galen Drouck
Okay, so you made a pretty bold take at the top, which is that for the sake of the Democratic Party, Grant Platter ought to drop out of the race, which would create a situation where the main Democratic Party could replace him on the top of the ballot or in the Senate slot. How would that work out? Who would they replace him with?
Nate Silver
So there's a gubernatorial primary and most of the better candidates went into that primary. So whoever finishes second or third, all of them are pretty progressive, right? The, the election wonky option, the moderate option will be Jared Goldin, who formerly represented the 2nd congressional district in Maine, which is where Sullivan is in he has said he's not interested. He bowed out. He was one of the most overperforming congressmen. The kind of textbook case for how like moderation actually does winning this district that Trump had won over and over again. He has said he wouldn't be interested. By the way, there is one more, I've been told this is one more back door, which is that you could have somebody run as a write in candidate in Maine. You have ranked choice voting, so you could run as a write in without necessarily spoiling Platner. If someone wanted to say, okay, I'll take this other Democrat first and then Platner ahead of Collins or vice versa, or whatever else.
Galen Drouck
Okay, so I gotta play devil's advocate here, which is that one, a lot of these scandals have just been unearthed. People have been hearing a lot about it. Maybe Grand Platinum, you want to take,
Nate Silver
you want to take a bet on whether there's anything more there or not. Like, why are all these people that work for him quitting? Like, that's a very bad signal.
Galen Drouck
Sure. And I, I would take the bet that there's more there. I mean, it wouldn't make sense to take the opposite. But American voters have lived through a decade, right, of a, I guess, talented communicator in Donald Trump managing to weather a lot of scandals and political storms. And because of his populist posture, oftentimes the establishment, the media, whatever attacking him ends up creating this dynamic where it's like, once again, these people don't care about you. They don't care about your economic concerns, they don't care about the little guy. They're just going after me because I want to disrupt the system. Graham Platner is in part picking up that mantle and trying to use it to, to his own advantage. I kind of assume that he's not going to drop out, that he will extend that dynamic and continue to talk about how, you know, the worst of the accusations are false. I'm also a redeemed person, but really they're attacking me, the establishment media, the establishment Democratic Party and all the Republicans, because I want to create, you know, Medicare for all and tax the billionaires and all of that stuff. And I'm curious, from your perspective, do you think that that approach will not work or do you think that, you know, just from a good governance perspective, you think he should drop out?
Nate Silver
Well, let me, let me say one thing. Graham Platner is not Trump in the sense that he hasn't proven shit yet. He hasn't. I mean, he'll win his primary tonight, I assume. Although their exit polls suggesting he might only get 60% of the vote, which is pretty mediocre when you're running effectively uncontested. He hasn't ever won an election to anything yet. And if he were to win by one point over Susan Collins, which, by the way, the race is still a toss up, maybe if you gave me free money, maybe I'd still bet on Democrats. Right, but probably close to a toss up if he wins by one point when in a D +8 map in a D +8 state. That still kind of sucks. You know, I think the issue is, like, look, I don't know if it's a gay thing or what, but we probably know our share of challenging people
Galen Drouck
and that's definitely a gay thing. I think straights are just a piece of cake.
Nate Silver
But, like, look, one of the nice things, Galen, about being independent is I'm allowed to use, like, the different parts of my brain. So first of all, there has been a deterioration in the poll. She's gone from plus six to tide. That's extremely meaningful, obviously, anytime you're around the 5050 mark. But, like, I think there are kind of like two typologies. Like, oh, here's this kind of lovable goofball. He had some PTSD after the war and he's not a perfect person, but now his heart's in the right place and he's recovering versus somebody who is just chronically narcissistic and manipulative. I believe that Graham Platner is a manipulative narcissist. Now, look, the good thing is that,
Galen Drouck
like, does that make him unique amongst people who have ambitions in politics?
Nate Silver
No, I think anybody who enters that, I mean, first of all, a Senate is kind of a fake job, right?
Podcast Narrator
That's the end of today's Preview. Head to GDPolitics.com to become a paid subscriber and catch the full episode. We chatted for about an hour, half of which was dedicated to Graham Platner and the Maine Senate race. We talked about how this strategically could play out for Democrats, the calculus that Maine voters are making and how the progressive left feels.
Galen Drouck
Feels about Platner.
Podcast Narrator
We also discussed the seeming end to the ceasefire in Iran and the politics of a quagmire, plus whether California is unique for how long it takes to count votes. And we talked about the World Cup. I know this isn't a sports podcast, but Nate built a World cup forecast model and it was actually really interesting to hear what went into it and how much of an assist he got from AI. Like I said, head to GDPolitics.com to catch the whole thing. For 8 bucks a month or 80 bucks a year, you'll get twice the number of episodes. And we'll help ensure we can keep making video this independent podcast again, that's gdpolitics. Com. Hope to see you there.
Host: Galen Druke
Guest: Nate Silver
Date: June 10, 2026
In this lively and sharply analytical episode, host Galen Druke and political forecaster Nate Silver dive into the fallout from Graham Platner's win in the Maine Democratic Senate primary. They dig into the risks Platner poses for Democratic hopes against incumbent Republican Senator Susan Collins. Interwoven throughout are reflections on scandal fatigue, candidate quality, and the political dynamics unique to Maine in 2026. The conversation veers into party strategy, prospects for replacing Platner, and parallels with recent American political history.
Key Segments Covered:
[02:32–04:15]
The Setup:
Platner clinches the Democratic nomination in Maine and is now set to face Republican incumbent Susan Collins. The host notes, “Graham Platner will win the Maine Democratic primary tonight... very likely looking at a matchup between Graham Platner on the Democratic side and Susan Collins on the Republican side.” (02:32)
Nate's Blunt Assessment:
Nate Silver doesn’t mince words:
“I think Graham Platner is a mediocre to bad cad, and I think that if he cared about the fortunes of the Democratic Party, then he would drop out.” (03:28)
Context:
Maine is considered a "D+8 or D+9" state; i.e., a generic Democrat should win handily—“A generic Democrat in Maine should win by 15 or 16 points. It's a blue state in a blue year.” (04:15)
[04:15–07:25]
State of the Race:
Nate observes that pre-scandal Platner led Collins by 6–7 points—“But it was no great feat. This is fucking Maine, not Mississippi.” (06:34)
Impact of Scandals:
Platner's campaigns have been rocked by “the most recent round of alleged scandals, the sexting and the accusations by his former campaign manager and just kind of frankly like what a mess... this guy doesn't seem to have his life together.” (06:48) As a result, Democrats lost their polling advantage; now, it's “basically a tossup with Collins.” (07:01)
Big Picture:
Nate: “Democrats ought to be doing better than a 50-50 chance in a blue state in a blue year.” (07:13)
[07:25–08:47]
[08:47–11:19]
Parallel to Trump:
Galen: “American voters have lived through a decade ... of a, I guess, talented communicator in Donald Trump managing to weather a lot of scandals and political storms. ... Graham Platner is in part picking up that mantle.” (09:06)
Nate’s Skepticism:
Nate counters:
"Graham Platner is not Trump in the sense that he hasn't proven shit yet." (10:27)
He adds, “If he wins by one point... That still kind of sucks.” (10:55)
Signals of Deeper Issues:
Nate signals concern about Platner's character:
“Why are all these people that work for him quitting? Like, that's a very bad signal.” (09:00)
On the shifting polling:
“There has been a deterioration in the poll. She's gone from plus six to tied. That's extremely meaningful, obviously, anytime you're around the 50-50 mark.” (11:24)
[11:19–12:13]
Personality Typologies:
Nate distinguishes two archetypes—
He concludes: “I believe that Graham Platner is a manipulative narcissist.” (12:07)
Memorable Aside:
Galen jokes:
“I think straights are just a piece of cake.” (11:19) This lighthearted moment underscores the show’s candid, irreverent tone.
Senate as a ‘Fake Job’:
Nate: “I mean, first of all, a Senate is kind of a fake job, right?” (12:13)
Nate Silver:
“I think Graham Platner is a mediocre to bad cad, and I think that if he cared about the fortunes of the Democratic Party, then he would drop out.” (03:28)
“There has been a deterioration in the poll. She's gone from plus six to tied. That's extremely meaningful, obviously, anytime you're around the 50-50 mark.” (11:24)
“I believe that Graham Platner is a manipulative narcissist.” (12:07)
Galen Druke:
“Graham Platner will win the Maine Democratic primary tonight and will go on to compete against Susan Collins for a Senate seat this fall.” (02:32)
“American voters have lived through a decade ... of a, I guess, talented communicator in Donald Trump managing to weather a lot of scandals and political storms.” (09:06)
“I think straights are just a piece of cake.” (11:19)
This episode offers an unsparing look at the Democratic dilemma in Maine, as Galen Druke and Nate Silver trade sharp observations, candid jokes, and nuanced political analysis. The show balances rigorous electoral math with frustration at candidate quality and political inertia, all delivered in the hosts’ signature tone: irreverent, informed, and just a bit exasperated.
For listeners invested in the intersection of scandal, party strategy, and the quirks of state-level politics, this episode is a must—but the ultimate answer to "How do Democrats solve a problem like Graham Platner?" remains, for now, frustratingly out of reach.
For the full, extended interview—including deeper dives into the race’s strategic calculus, Democratic Party wrangling, the Iran crisis, and Nate’s World Cup model—visit GDPolitics.com.