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Episode: How Will Americans React To U.S. Involvement In Venezuela?
Host: Galen Druke
Guests: Mary Radcliffe (Head of Research, 50 plus one), Nathaniel Rakich (Managing Editor, VoteBeat)
Date: January 5, 2026

Overview

The episode centers on the United States’ sudden military intervention in Venezuela at the start of 2026—specifically the capture of President Nicolás Maduro and his wife by U.S. forces and their extradition to New York. With widespread uncertainty both in Venezuela and Washington, the discussion focuses primarily on how these dramatic events are reverberating through American public opinion and politics, rather than military or foreign analysis. The participants review the first polling since the action, assess shifting partisan attitudes, draw historical parallels, and highlight absurdities and ambiguities in both data and political messaging.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: What Happened and Why? (01:27–03:10)

• The U.S. launched military strikes, capturing Maduro and his wife, who are now awaiting trial in New York.
• Trump’s vague public statement: “We’re going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper, and judicious transition” (02:27).
• Early signs suggest Maduro’s vice president, Delcy Rodriguez, may serve as acting leader under U.S. pressure, though she has condemned the intervention as “illegal armed aggression.”

2. Polling: The American Public’s Reaction (04:54–09:25)

• Fast YouGov polling shows Trump's approval on handling Venezuela is still underwater (39% approve, 46% disapprove)—a slight improvement from December polling (31% approve, 49% disapprove).
• Notable party shifts:
  • Republican support for military intervention rose sharply post-action, from 44% to 66%.
  • Democrats and independents also shifted toward support, but remain mostly opposed (Democrats: from 5% to 14% support).
• Memorable moment:
  Mary Radcliffe: “Once it’s your guy doing the thing, you shift towards support... both Dems and independents also shifted more towards support for this move... But after it happened, both Dems and independents also shifted towards support.” (07:49)
• Contextual comparison: Americans often become more supportive of military action after a “successful” strike with no immediate fallout (e.g., Iran, Israel), but this is just the beginning in Venezuela.

3. Motivations: Democracy, Oil, and Mixed Messaging (11:08–15:57)

• Trump has been openly transactional about oil:
  Nathaniel: “The President just has said openly... this is great, we’re going to be able to send in American oil companies and get more oil, and has basically explicitly said... we hope that Delcy Rodriguez, the now acting president of Venezuela, plays ball with American oil.” (11:23)
• Rubio and other administration figures have argued for regime change in the name of defeating socialism and promoting democracy.
• Yet, support for the democratic opposition is tepid—Trump “markedly dismissed” major opposition leader Maria Machado.
  • Galen: “Nonetheless, supporting Delcy Rodriguez makes it difficult to say that this is about democracy. And in fact, Donald Trump is not saying that it’s about democracy” (13:41)
• Notable quote and twist of irony:
  Galen reads Vass Erik Levitz:
  "...in my day, critics denounced US wars of choice as imperialist schemes to seize foreign oil, while the President insisted they were really attempts to spread democracy. Now critics denounce such wars as attempts to spread democracy, while the President insists they are really imperialist schemes to seize foreign oil.” (12:34)

4. Does the Public Buy the Oil Narrative? (15:57–17:28)

• Poll: Only 25% say U.S. companies should take control of Venezuelan oil fields; 45% say no.
• But 51% believe U.S. companies will take control, suggesting general cynicism about intentions.

5. Is Intervention More Popular for Democracy or Oil? (16:00–18:44)

• Mary: “The thing that I find really surprising, listening to Trump talk, is when he’s talking about oil, he’s not talking about oil companies. He says us. He says we. Like, as if the American people as a whole somehow benefit from, like, Exxon getting to do more drilling. I don’t understand that.” (16:11)
• Debate about whether Trump means “America” or just “big business.”
• Nathaniel: “There is probably also still an element of the MAGA base, America First, like the nationalist thing that does think about American companies’ interests are in line with my interests as well. It’s almost like a rooting for your sports team type of thing.” (17:39)

6. The Multiple Factions Inside the GOP and Administration (19:44–23:47)

• Quoting Politico’s Nahal Tusi: The Trump admin splits between those wanting “pressure for elections” (Rubio, neocons) versus those happy with a deal, regime stability, and oil access (Stephen Miller wing).
• Some MAGA-aligned Republicans (e.g., Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massie) oppose intervention outright—highlighting real splits between “America First,” neoconservative, and Machiavellian/Monroe Doctrine camps.
• Nathaniel: “I would have thought that Trump was less interventionist... He claimed to be bringing the Republican Party toward a noninterventionist America First party. But... he does seem to be interested in the intervention for its materialist sake.” (20:44)

7. Is Military Intervention Popular? Is America at War? (23:54–25:59)

• YouGov: Americans split evenly on whether intervention will help or worsen Venezuela (34% improve, 35% worsen).
• Asked generally, Americans are more pessimistic about U.S. interventions: Only 29% think they are typically beneficial, 37% think they worsen situations.
• Americans are confused: 36% say the U.S. is at war with Venezuela, 35% say not—lots of don't knows.

8. Historical Parallels: Do Interventions Rally the Public? (26:05–28:06)

• Past interventions (Panama 1989, Haiti 1994, Iraq 2003) all saw short-term bumps in presidential approval—sometimes significant.
• “I wouldn’t be shocked to see some kind of improvement in Trump’s approval numbers... even a movement of like a point or two, I think would be notable and you could possibly attribute to this.” (27:01)

9. Is the Monroe Doctrine Coming Back? Do Americans Want It? (28:06–34:43)

• Trump’s messaging increasingly sounds like a 19th-century Monroe Doctrine—asserting hemispheric dominance, saber-rattling at Mexico, Cuba, Colombia, posting jokes about occupying Greenland.
• Recent polling (early 2025): Only 37% support expanding U.S. territory, and just 4% if it requires force.
  • “I think overall... as close as I can get to this idea of the Monroe Doctrine, it looks like not much support, especially if it’s going to rely on heavy use of our armed forces.” (33:43)

10. Unpacking “MAGA”: The Base vs. the Electeds (34:46–37:16)

• Polling shows self-identified “MAGA” Republicans are more supportive of intervention (66%) than non-MAGA (47%).
  • Mary: “When people are calling themselves MAGA, what they really mean is, I’m a Trump guy.” (36:32)
• Political identity remains tied closely to Trump himself, not just ideology.

11. Fun with “Data”: Pentagon Pizza & Prediction Markets (37:52–48:02)

• “Pentagon Pizza” account claims late-night pizza orders near the Pentagon can predict military actions.
  • Mary: “No one ever mentions this pizza tweet except for when it’s right... It could very easily be coincidence... I want to say not data.” (39:05)
• Reports of possible insider trading on “Polymarket” right before the Venezuela strike.
  • Nathaniel: “Prediction markets occupy this strange in between space between representing the conventional wisdom and actually attempting to predict the outcome... As a result, the odds on polymarket were probably not actually reflective of anything real.” (44:20)
  • Mary: “I used to be involved in prediction markets and no longer am for these exact sorts of ethical reasons.” (46:21)
• New bill proposed: Prohibiting federal officials from insider trading in political prediction markets.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Shifting Partisan Views:
  “Once it’s your guy doing the thing, you shift towards support.” — Mary Radcliffe (07:49)

• On Oil as Motivation:
  “In my day, critics denounced US wars of choice as imperialist schemes to seize foreign oil, while the President insisted they were really attempts to spread democracy. Now critics denounce such wars as attempts to spread democracy, while the President insists they are really imperialist schemes to seize foreign oil.” — Galen Druke, quoting Vass Erik Levitz (12:34)

• On Pentagon Pizza “Data”:
  “No one ever mentions this pizza tweet except for when it’s right... I want to say not data.” — Mary Radcliffe (39:05)

• On MAGA & Intervention:
  “When people are calling themselves MAGA, what they really mean is, I’m a Trump guy.” — Mary Radcliffe (36:32)

• On the Return of the Monroe Doctrine:
  “Trump and Rubio both seem to be suggesting that Cuba and Iran could be next... posting a map of Greenland with the American flag... this brings us back to 19th-century stuff.” — Galen Druke (28:06)

• On Public Confusion:
  “Americans literally don’t know what’s going on.” — Mary Radcliffe (25:27)

Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp (MM:SS) | |----------------------------------------------------|----------------------| | Setting the Stage: What Happened | 01:27–03:10 | | Polling: Public Reaction | 04:54–09:25 | | Motivations: Democracy vs. Oil | 11:08–15:57 | | Public Attitudes Toward Oil Control | 15:57–17:28 | | Popularity of Intervention for Different Motives | 16:00–18:44 | | Republican Factions Explained | 19:44–23:47 | | Is the U.S. at War? | 23:54–25:59 | | Historical Approval Bumps from Interventions | 26:05–28:06 | | Monroe Doctrine & US Expansion Sentiment | 28:06–34:43 | | MAGA Base vs. Electeds | 34:46–37:16 | | Pentagon Pizza “Data” | 37:52–41:48 | | Prediction Markets & Insider Trading | 42:07–48:02 |

Tone, Style & Final Thoughts

The conversation is sharp, data-driven, and laced with ironic humor and skepticism toward both American political narratives and the foibles of data analysis. The hosts repeatedly interrogate the meaning behind shifting polling, the reliability of prediction “data,” and the haziness of the Trump administration’s goals. They contextualize these events in the familiar cycles of American interventionism while highlighting how little both the public and elite actors can claim to know at this stage (and how quickly partisan narratives flip after action is taken).

The episode closes with incisive commentary on the blurring lines between political identity and policy preference, and a reminder that, in the current landscape, “Americans literally don’t know what’s going on” (Mary, 25:27), but the politics of war and its justifications are as malleable—and as revealing—as ever.