Tuck and Ozzy chat with scholar Marquis Bey (they/them). Topics include:

If we abolish gender, what will happen to sex changes?
Is nonbinary bourgeois?
Learning about nonbinary from incarcerated queer studies students
If neither of us care about gender, then what are we doing on this gender podcast?!
Plus: Burner genders, replacing "community" with "swarms," and pushing back against the assimilation of they/them

This Week in Gender: Nicole Kelly spotlights QueerSouf, one of the 2025 Gender Reveal grant recipients. (Transcript here.)

Find Marquis at marquisbey.com. Marquis's new book, Nonbinary Life, will be released on April 16.

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