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Just when you thought 2025 couldn't get any weirder, this happened. You can now Venmo the government to help pay down the national debt. Which reminds me of Kennedy's famous words, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can, Venmo, for your country. You can also ask for the last four digits of your country's phone number to verify it's the correct country. So, are people really doing this? And could it actually help us reduce the national debt? You might be. Surpr. Today we're gonna break down this absolute circus. Who's really benefiting from this scheme and why? A donation to Uncle Sam might be the worst financial decision you make this year. Yes, even worse than buying a Labubu. Okay, so here's what's happening. Earlier this year, the US Treasury Department quietly added Venmo and PayPal as payment options to their Gifts to Reduce the Public Debt program. So you can literally go to pay.gov right now and send the government money to help pay down our $37.2 trillion national debt at the time of this recording. It has surely gone up by the time you watch this. But here's the thing. This isn't actually new. You've been able to donate to reduce the national debt for a long time. In fact, the treasury has had this program in place since 1996. The only new part is that you can now do it through the same app you use to pay back your friend for the. Whatever this is. Magic wand and mushroom emoji. What are the ki. Go back to Tide Pods. Simpler times. Don't eat Tide Pods, don't drink bleach, and never inject disinfectants into your body. So are people actually doing this, just voluntarily throwing money into the black hole of government spending? Well, I'll tell you, but first, what even is the national debt? Well, it's pretty much what it sounds like. It's the total amount of money we owe as a country, and it's currently sitting at a cool 37.2 trillion with a T. And now it's 37.26. Okay, so who do we owe all this money to? Great question, and the answer is, whoever bought treasury bonds? You see, the US Government sells Treasury bonds to raise money for things like infrastructure, defense, and paying off other debts. So they're basically an IOU from Uncle Sam. You give the government your money now, and in return, they promise to pay you back later with a little bit of interest. So, currently, about 25% of our debt is owed to Foreign countries. And the rest we basically owe to ourselves because a bunch of individual people and major institutions in America own Treasury bonds, places like the Social Security trust fund, pension plans, big banks, and insurance companies. Now, you may have heard people talk about the national deficit, which is different from the national debt, but they are closely related. The deficit is how much we're adding to our debt each year, essentially how much more money the government spends versus how much it takes in. And right now, we are running annual deficits over $1 trillion. Yep, you heard that right. Let's go back. We are spending $1 trillion more than we take in every single year. And a trillion is a thousand billions. That is a lot of guacamole, a lot of the green. And to put that in perspective, that is more than most countries, entire economies. And according to the Congressional Budget Office, Trump's one big beautiful bill is projected to add another $3.4 trillion to the deficit over the next decade. So, naturally, the solution, everyone Venmo the government, a few bucks. Let's pitch in, baby. Come on. So back to our question. Are people actually doing this? I mean, other than YouTubers like me sarcastically trying to prove a point? Unfortunately, yes. According to reports, this decades old program has now raised over $67 million since it started. And I just want to know, who are these people? Why are they doing this? What is. What has gotten into you? Where you're like, you know what? I'm just bored. I haven't paid enough in taxes. Let me go ahead and drop another one in the bucket there. The government making you pay taxes and then asking you to voluntarily donate more money is like someone punching you in the face and then turning around an iPad to ask for a tip. Look, this is just not a smart use of your money. And here's why. The national debt is so massive that your 5 or $10 donation is not gonna move the needle at all. Even at scale, it's a teeny tiny drop in a bucket that is the size of your mom. You know what I told myself? I'm done with these jokes. They're juvenile. Unlike your mom. Dang it. Did it again. That is so childish. I mean, do you know how much each American would have to venmo the government to wipe out the national debt? Well, I do, because we did the math. We could eliminate the entire national debt if all 330 million Americans donated $113,000 each. That's right. You just need to casually donate more than most people make in two years. It's not that hard Guys, pull yourself up by the bootstraps and get a job. Now, that's obviously not gonna happen, but here's a slightly more realistic hypothetical scenario. If every American donated $10, we'd raise about 3.3 billion. Now, that sounds like a lot of money, and it is if you're a normal human. But the federal government spent $6.9 trillion in fiscal year 2024. That's about $787 million per hour. So our collective 3.3 billion donation would pay for about 4.2 hours of government spending. Four hours. So this whole donating to the debt thing is barely benefiting the government. And it's definitely not benefiting you. At least not in any tangible way. But believe you me, there is someone who is benefiting from all of this. And I'll tell you who that is. But first, tell you about my bed sheets, because they are insanely comfortable. I got them from Cozy Earth, a sponsor of today's video. And I don't know if there's an official rating system for bedding, but these sheets are S tier. Okay? These bad boys are temperature regulating, moisture wicking, and they are hands down the best sheets I've ever slept on. And the secret, they're made from premium viscose from bamboo. So they are super soft. It's like a marshmallow and a cloud had a baby. So try them out for yourself and if you don't like them, return them hassle free. And if you keep them, which I think you will, you get the benefit of their 10 year bedding warranty. So to get an exclusive 40% off their website, use promo code GEORGE at checkout@cozyearth.com GEORGE or use the link in the description. And if you're wondering what to do with the money you were thinking about donating to the government, here's an idea. Use it to help protect yourself from spammers and scammers. And the way I do that is with Deleteme, another sponsor of today's video. Because it seems like every other day there's a new scam, a new data leak. But Deleteme helps cut the risk by removing your info from hundreds of these data broker websites. And here's the cool part. If you're a Deleteme subscriber and you find your info on some random website, you can, you can submit a custom removal request and their data privacy experts will get to work on taking it down. With my special link, you get a discounted annual plan that comes out to about nine bucks a Month. So, to get the deal, go to joindeleteme.com george or use the link in the description. Okay, back to the matter at hand. Who is really benefiting from this whole donate to the debt charade? Well, the real winner here is Venmo and their parent company, PayPal. Bet you didn't know that, did you? They are putting themselves between US Citizens and the government, collecting transaction fees and data. How convenient. And in case you were wondering, yes, they do have lobbyists. PayPal spent over $1.6 million on lobbying in 2024 alone. It's funny how that works, that whole lobbying thing. Maybe this will help. I really don't think I should. Yeah, you still don't think so. So, if all this is a waste of time and money, what should we do about the national debt? Well, here's an instead of asking U.S. citizens to voluntarily pay it down, how about this? Go with me here. Donald Trump jumps on cameo. With all proceeds going to pay down the national debt. This could work, guys. Who wouldn't want a cameo video from the guy who did a cameo in Home Alone 2 Lost in New York. But the bottom line here is this. Do not waste your money trying to help pay down the national debt. If you got a generous spirit, give to things that can actually do good with that money, unlike the government. And maybe you've got some debt to pay off. Let's focus on that first. That's gonna do way more good, because when you don't have debt payments, you. You'll stop throwing away money on interest payments, which will free up cash for things like giving, saving, investing. And that will make a huge difference in your life, and it can change your whole family tree. And if you're already debt free, your money would be so much better spent giving to actual charities that help people directly or use it to invest for the future. So later you can be even more generous. But look, it's not your job to pay for the poor financial decisions of your lawmakers. Now, by all means, give them a call, tell them to stop making terrible decisions, and go ahead and make a mental note to vote for someone else next time if you're not happy with the people in charge. But other than that, there's not much you can do or should do about the national deficit. Focus on what you can control, which is your house and your money. Build wealth. Even if the government continues to go deeper and deeper into debt, as Stephen Covey says in the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, you need to focus on your circle of influence, AKA the things you can actually impact instead of wasting energy on the circle of concern, which is things like the national debt. Now, that said, there are plenty of things in the recent spending bill that will directly affect your personal finances, including your taxes, your health care costs, and your investment accounts. And that bill may be big, but it's not going to be beautiful for everyone. So if you want to see a detailed breakdown of Trump's one big, beautiful bill and what it means for your wallet, just click right here to watch the video where I break it down or use the link in the description. Don't forget to like, subscribe and share this video with your congressperson. They won't care. And that's the problem. Thanks for watching. We'll see you next time.
Podcast: George Kamel • Host: Ramsey Network
Date: September 22, 2025
In this episode, George Kamel delivers a scathing and humorous breakdown of the latest Treasury Department move: accepting Venmo and PayPal donations to reduce the US national debt. He explains the origins of this program, explores whether individual donations can actually make a difference, discusses who really benefits, and ultimately steers listeners back to smart, actionable personal finance. With his signature wit, George takes aim at the absurdity of asking ordinary Americans to Venmo the government, while offering practical advice for where your money is truly best spent.
“You can now Venmo the government to help pay down the national debt. Which reminds me of Kennedy's famous words, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can, Venmo, for your country.” — George Kamel [00:08]
“The deficit is how much we're adding to our debt each year...we are running annual deficits over $1 trillion.” — George Kamel [03:40]
"The government making you pay taxes and then asking you to voluntarily donate more money is like someone punching you in the face and then turning around an iPad to ask for a tip." — George Kamel [05:40]
“Even at scale, it's a teeny tiny drop in a bucket that is the size of your mom. You know what I told myself? I'm done with these jokes. They're juvenile. Unlike your mom. Dang it. Did it again.” — George Kamel [06:45]
“They are putting themselves between US citizens and the government, collecting transaction fees and data. How convenient. And in case you were wondering, yes, they do have lobbyists. PayPal spent over $1.6 million on lobbying in 2024 alone.” — George Kamel [12:10]
“It’s not your job to pay for the poor financial decisions of your lawmakers...Focus on what you can control, which is your house and your money.” — George Kamel [14:40]
| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------| | 00:08 | “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can, Venmo, for your country.” | George Kamel | | 05:40 | “...like someone punching you in the face and then turning around an iPad to ask for a tip.” | George Kamel | | 06:45 | “Even at scale, it's a teeny tiny drop in a bucket that is the size of your mom.” | George Kamel | | 12:10 | “...they do have lobbyists. PayPal spent over $1.6 million on lobbying in 2024 alone.” | George Kamel | | 14:40 | “It’s not your job to pay for the poor financial decisions of your lawmakers...” | George Kamel |
George Kamel’s episode skillfully blends comedy, economics, and personal finance wisdom to highlight the absurdity of sending Venmo payments to the US Treasury. Instead of playing into “debt donation” schemes, listeners are urged to focus on paying down their own debts, supporting effective charities, and influencing government policy through informed voting—not tip jars. The answer to national debt woes won’t be found in micro-transactions but in responsible fiscal policy and solid personal money management.