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Welcome to the Georgia Today podcast. Here we bring you the latest reports from the GPB newsroom. On today's episode, several groups ask a judge to limit how the federal government uses voter data seized in a raid near Atlanta. Opening arguments begin in the trial of a father whose son killed four people at a Georgia high school. And filmmaker Spike Lee joins us in studio.
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That's the most important legacy of school days that people still today say they went to college because of school days.
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Today is Monday, February 16th. I'm Peter Biello and this is GEORGIA Today. The NAACP and allied groups are asking a judge to limit how the federal government uses voter data seized in an FBI raid near Atlanta. In a motion filed late yesterday, the organizations asked the judge to bar any use beyond the stated criminal investigation. They also asked for a full inventory of what the agents took in the January seizure. At the Fulton county elections hub, FBI agents arrived at the warehouse with a warrant seeking 2020 Fulton county election records. The Justice Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Today. The trial has started for a man whose teenage son is accused of killing two students and two teachers at a Georgia high school. 2024 lawyers gave opening statements today in the case against Colin Gray. Prosecutors say gray gave his 14 year old son Colt access to a gun and ammunition despite warning signs. They link that decision to the four deaths at Appalachia High School. Gray's attorney says his client was not told about the planning and timing of the shooting and shouldn't be held criminally responsible. The trial is being held in Winder, where the shooting happened, with jurors from nearby Hall County. For more on this, we turn to Michael Moore. He's a former U.S. attorney and partner at Moore hall in Atlant. Welcome to the program.
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Great to be with you. Thanks for having me on.
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Prosecutors say Colin Gray knew his son Colt was obsessed with school shooters, even had a shrine in his bedroom to another school shooter. But he didn't think his son's interest was serious enough. How does something like this, which defense attorneys might say amounts to just a misjudgment, something parents do from time to time, amount to something criminal?
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Yeah, well, that's, I mean, ultimately that's going to be the case in the question as they move forward for the jury. I mean, this trial presents a picture of a troubled young man who apparently was fixated on shootings and this type of thing, and then a parent who may have ignored that, certainly even in providing him a weapon. The question will be whether or not the parent had enough suspicion and belief, and was it a reasonable belief or fear concern that his child would do something like this, or is it going to be just, hey, I was giving my child a gun so we could hunt? You know, and that's the question on these. And ultimately, those are tough questions that a jury will listen to, make a decision on the specific factors that were available for knowledge to the parent who provided the gun.
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And what is the biggest challenge, do you think, as far as burden of proof for the prosecution?
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You know, you have to remember that criminal cases have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. And one of the elements of any crime would be an intent element. And so they've actually got to look and decide, did the actions of the parent in providing the gun under these particular circumstances, was that enough to cross over the threshold that leads us from maybe civil liability, which is a lesser standard, into criminal liability? And so I think it will be probably likely. The question of, are there any prior reports made? Were there any specific concerns expressed to other people? Were there emails or texts out there about concerns about the child and proving those things? I think in showing that that amounts to a level of criminal culpability, that's going to be the biggest hurdle, I think, for the state going forward. You know, it was interesting in the case at the start, you heard the prosecutor say this was not about the actions really, of the shooter, of the child, the young man who did the shooting. But then he spent a great deal of time in his opening talking about specifically those acts. I think that makes the state's case a little tougher. And frankly, it's going to make some questions, I think, about the law, if not during the course of trial, but certainly if there's a conviction in some appeal proceeding.
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Do you think this Colin Gray case faces an uphill battle here in Georgia for any particular reason?
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The state in this case will have a difficult time prosecuting Colin Gray because it is a unique case in the sense that they're having to pull together different statutes in different parts of the statute to make their case. And they will need to come in and show both that the child cruelty statute, in fact, and the child endangerment statute, that those apply in a way that supports or becomes the predicate offense for the murder charge. And that can be a difficult burden. Remember that they have to defend this and actually defend this case on appeal if they're successful. So they not only have the issue of convincing a jury that a parent should be liable for this, but they also then have to show that on appeal they have to support, in fact, that this was the legislative intent and what the statute meant as they move forward. So they've really had two, two burdens and two hurdles to cross.
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So if he is convicted and the convictions are upheld, what do you think the implications of this in Georgia would be?
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So if Mr. Gray is convicted in this case and his conviction is upheld throughout any appeal process, I think what you will see is an argument that our gun laws in the state, that they exist, are currently sufficient by one side of the aisle. And on the other side of the aisle, I think you'll hear an argument that we should move forward with more common sense reform. That's much more clearer on the intent of the state legislature to say that a parent who does this should in fact be held criminally responsible. So you'll have both a push for the law to be strengthened and then I think you'll also see sort of a counter that the law as it stands is sufficient to both protect the public and also not infringe on any claimed arguments about the Second Amendment.
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Michael Moore is a former U.S. attorney and partner at Moore hall in Atlanta. Thank you so much for sharing your insight with us.
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Good to see you. Thank you for having me and call on me anytime.
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Early voting begins today in Georgia's 14th congressional district. 19 candidates vying to replace former Rome Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene made their pitch to voters during Debates held yesterday. GPB's Sarah Kalis reports.
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One message was clear from all candidates. They are not seeking the spotlight and notoriety that became synonymous with Greene during her tenure in Congress. Republican Clay Fuller says he's the only candidate endorsed by President Donald Trump.
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I think they're looking for someone to carry President Trump's banner, support his agenda and fight for him on Capitol Hill.
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Democrat Sean Harris ran against Greene in 2024 and says this race feels different.
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Farmers are hurting across the board in the district. The people are saying it's time for something different.
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Election day is March 10. The crowded race is likely to go to a runoff. For GPB News, I'm Sarah Kallis in Atlanta.
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Georgia. Culinary icon and Savannah Cooking School founder Chef Joe Randall died on Saturday. The Pennsylvania native moved to Savannah in 1999 and became known as an ambassador for Southern cooking, the dean of Southern cuisine. He authored a James Beard Award winning cookbook and told GPB's Orlando Montoya in 2005 that Southern food is about Southern hospitality. He later told GPB's Georgia Traveler about the spice of Southern cooking.
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Cayenne pepper is a foundation to Southern.
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Cooking It's what I call a little.
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Hello in your mouth.
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Food should talk to you.
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When you put it in your mouth, if it don't say nothing, it's just bland food.
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He earned numerous accolades for his contributions to Southern foodways, including from the James Beard foundation and the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture. No cause of death was announced. Chef Joe Randall was 79 years old. The University of Georgia Medical School has been granted preliminary accreditation from the Liaison Committee on Medical Education, the university said Friday the designation allows them to recruit and admit its inaugural class. UGA School of Medicine was established in 2024 and will welcome its first class of students this fall. The university says applications will open in the coming weeks. Artistic engagement could promote brain health and emotional well being for those living with Alzheimer's. GPB's. Ellen Eldredge has more In a partnership pairing music with medicine, earlier research from.
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Emory universities goes that a brain health institute found that music improves mood and engagement among people with cognitive concerns. Now a partnership with the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra is studying how best to use music to improve their lives. Dr. Monica Parker leads the research team at Emory.
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We invited all of our participants last year to the symphony, and they had such a great experience, we decided we would try to see how this might help persons living with dementia.
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The Alzheimer's foundation of America recently awarded the researchers $200,000 to advance their work. For GPB News, I'm Ellen Eldredge.
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Filmmaker Spike Lee, a graduate of Morehouse College, was in town last week for a screening of his classic movie School Days at the Fox Theater in Atlanta. Spike Lee joined G. Morning Edition host Pamela Kirkland for a chat.
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Over the last four decades, Spike Lee has written and directed more than 35 films. The Academy Award winning filmmaker is back in Atlanta, returning to the city where he was born. School Days hit theaters back in 1988. It follows one homecoming weekend at Mission College, a fictional hbcu. The film tackled apartheid activism, class divisions and colorism within the black community, and it also stirred a little controversy. 38 years later, Lee is here screening School Days at the fabulous Fox Theater with HBCU students across Atlanta invited to attend. Spike Lee, thank you so much for being here.
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Thank you for having me. I was born in Grady Hospital, so you know, I went to college here.
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1979, graduate of Morehouse College. You returned as a filmmaker and you were willing to kind of give this hard look to an institution that really shaped you and your family. So four decades later, you're bringing back school days. What does that Moment really represent for you?
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Well, it represented growth from the first film, She's Gonna have It, which we shot on a shoestring. This is much bigger budget. Must establish stars. Large Lawrence Fishburne Jones Esposito, late great Bill Nunn and. And it's really. School Days was my four years at Morehouse.
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This is a film that just still feels so relevant. When you were making the film, did you think this would be something that would span generations?
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Well, I was hoping some of stuff would stop. Here we are, 38 years later, it's still going on. So the film has a life. And so people will be watching this film 30 years from now and beyond.
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You make so many films that at the same time talk about external pressures and things that are happening in the world, but also are this internal look at divisions within the black community. How do you have those discussions at the same time?
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Very carefully. But all jokes aside, I consider myself a storyteller. So not all my films, but some films about what's happening today and that. And that. That that's what the story is about. And it pains me that some of the stuff we were talking about, school Days, was still going through. I mean, I read. I let the audience rather, you know, figure that out. What do they say is the. You know, what we could do to stop that stuff. But I'm very fortunate to make films, and I'm honored, you know, to come back to Atlanta and Show this film 38 years later where we. Where we shot it.
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You have people come up to you and say, hey, school days inspired me to go to an HBCU or inspired me to go to college at all.
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That's the legacy. I think that's the most. For me, that's the most important legacy of school days that people still today, 30, 38 years later, say school days is why not just. I went to black school, where people say school days, they went to college. Not just a black historic black school or university. They went to college because of school days.
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When you were making School Days, you. You got kicked off of Morehouse's campus two weeks into filming.
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Yeah, they said, president Uglass. He said, you guys can't shoot here. He saw who I cast as a president, the great late Joe Seneca. And he told me, he's too dark to be the president. Can you believe that? This is a President Morehouse who's very light skinned. He said, the guy, the actor Duke cast to play the president is. He looks like a sambo.
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Well, I mean, it plays into the film, though, because you just colorism. That's what the film's about.
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Imagine this. The president of Morehouse, you Gloucester told me that Joe's the great actor. Joe Seneca was too dark and looked like a Sambo. So when he told me that I knew I was doing something right.
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Was there ever a moment where you were nervous after you got kicked off Morehouse campus? They're like all right, find somewhere else to go. Film.
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Or he went to Clark College and Leonard University. They weren't combined back then. And Morris Brown.
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So you were able to finish. But did you ever think for a second that maybe you might not be able to get the film done?
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Never.
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Never a doubt and doubts about.
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I knew we were going to get it done. Hook a Crook was going to get done. But that even the thing with you Gloucester, that even made me think that this is what we're talking about. This is what we're talking the film's about. No, I will say the legacy of school days is that as we went, we talked about already but people went to school, went to college, went on to do grad school because of that film school days. Malcolm X, you know that that's what Denzel did. So all but documentaries I did. The one had the greatest impact for me is called Four Little Girls which is about the bombing of the 6th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama. And those four little great wonderful young girls lives were ended with 16 sticks of dynamite.
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And that film had real impact because you got a phone call about that one.
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So we wanted, we wanted be eligible for the Oscars documentary category. And to be considered you have to have a one week theatrical run. And the phone rang and I didn't recognize the number. I said who is this? He said this is federal agent and the name FBI. And they requested a print of the film. But before that, I don't know why that's like calling me. I do nothing and get nothing on me. Copper. But I gave them the, the print and a week so later they reopened the case and we opened the case and sent those guys prison. Now that is an example of art being used to write injustice.
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Spike Lee is an Academy Award winning filmmaker. Over the last four decades he's written and directed more than 35 films including do the Right Thing, Malcolm X, BlacKkKlansman, when the Levees Broke. Spike Lee, thank you so much for stopping by the GPB studios.
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Thank you for having me and having me back.
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There's a lot more to that conversation. You can find it at gpb.org and on the GPB YouTube page. Georgian native and Grammy winning country singer Ray Stevens has released a new tribute song honoring the city of Savannah. The 78 year old entertainer, known for blending country and comedy, says the track reflects his longtime affection for the coastal city. The jazz influenced single serves as the lead release for his upcoming album Favorites Old and new, due April 10th. And that is it for this edition of Georgia Today. If you want to learn more about any of these stories, visit gpb.org news and remember to subscribe to this podcast. We've got a lot more news coming your way this week. You won't want to miss a minute of it. If you've got feedback or story idea we should know about, send it to us by email. You'll reach the whole team when you send a Note to Georgia todaypb.org I'm Peter Biello. Thanks again for listening. We will see you tomorrow.
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Host: Peter Biello (Georgia Public Broadcasting)
Main Guests: Michael Moore (Former U.S. Attorney), Spike Lee (Filmmaker), Sarah Kallis (GPB Reporter), Pamela Kirkland (GPB Host)
This episode of Georgia Today covers three major stories:
The episode also touches on an open congressional race, honors the late Chef Joe Randall, highlights innovative Alzheimer's research using music, and shares cultural news on country singer Ray Stevens and the accreditation of the University of Georgia’s new medical school.
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Guest Expert: Michael Moore (Former U.S. Attorney)
Key Insights:
“The question will be whether or not the parent had enough suspicion and belief, and was it a reasonable belief or fear concern that his child would do something like this, or is it going to be just, hey, I was giving my child a gun so we could hunt?” — Michael Moore [02:20]
“You have to remember that criminal cases have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. ... They’ve actually got to look and decide, did the actions of the parent ... cross over the threshold that leads us from maybe civil liability, ... into criminal liability?” — Michael Moore [03:06]
“They not only have the issue of convincing a jury ... but they also then have to show ... that this was the legislative intent ... So they’ve really had two ... hurdles to cross.” — Michael Moore [04:31]
“If Mr. Gray is convicted ... you’ll have both a push for the law to be strengthened and then ... a counter that the law as it stands is sufficient to ... not infringe on any claimed arguments about the Second Amendment.” — Michael Moore [05:25]
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“Cayenne pepper is a foundation to Southern cooking… it’s what I call a little hello in your mouth.” — Joe Randall [07:46] “Food should talk to you. ... If it don’t say nothing, it’s just bland food.” — Joe Randall [07:53]
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“We invited all of our participants last year to the symphony, and they had such a great experience, we decided we would try to see how this might help persons living with dementia.” — Dr. Monica Parker [09:04]
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Interview conducted by Pamela Kirkland
Notable Segments:
“I was born in Grady Hospital, so you know, I went to college here.” — Spike Lee [10:18] “School Days was my four years at Morehouse.” — Spike Lee [11:00]
“I was hoping some of stuff would stop. Here we are, 38 years later, it’s still going on.” — Spike Lee [11:13]
> “Very carefully. ... But I consider myself a storyteller. ... It pains me that some of the stuff we were talking about, school Days, was still going through.” — Spike Lee [11:50]
“That’s the most important legacy of school days, that people still today, 30, 38 years later, say ... school days is why ... they went to college.” — Spike Lee [12:49]
> “President Gloucester told me that Joe Seneca, the great actor, was too dark and looked like a Sambo. So when he told me that I knew I was doing something right.” — Spike Lee [14:03]
> Q: "Did you ever think ... you might not be able to get the film done?"
> “Never. ... Hook or Crook was going to get done. ... Even the thing with Gloucester, that even made me think that this is what we’re talking about. This is what the film's about.” — Spike Lee [14:48]
> “They reopened the case and sent those guys [Birmingham church bombers] to prison. Now that is an example of art being used to write injustice.” — Spike Lee [16:00]
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Michael Moore on Proving Parental Complicity:
"Did the actions of the parent in providing the gun under these particular circumstances... cross over the threshold that leads us from maybe civil liability ... into criminal liability?" [03:06]
Spike Lee on Enduring Impact:
“That’s the most important legacy of school days, that people ... say ... they went to college because of school days.” [12:49]
Spike Lee on Colorism and Being Kicked Off Campus:
“President Gloucester told me ... the actor [Joe Seneca] was too dark and looked like a Sambo. So when he told me that I knew I was doing something right.” [14:03]
Chef Joe Randall on Southern Cooking:
“Food should talk to you. ... If it don’t say nothing, it’s just bland food.” [07:53]
Dr. Monica Parker on Music and Dementia:
"We invited all of our participants last year to the symphony ... we would try to see how this might help persons living with dementia." [09:04]
The episode blends news reporting with thoughtful, reflective interviews. The insight from legal experts and cultural icons is direct, unvarnished, and seeks both to inform and to spark further conversation about justice, culture, and legacy in Georgia and beyond.