C (2:54)

Leaders were sworn in during a ceremony at Georgia State University that included Mayor Andre Dickens and City Council President Marcy Collier Overstreet. The event was attended by Senator Raphael Warnock, former Mayors Andrew Young, Shirley Franklin and Kaseem Reid. During his address, Dickens compared Atlanta's fight against inequality to the biblical battle between David and Goliath. He said, like David, armed with only stones and a sling, the city has what it needs to win.

B (3:19)

Atlanta's five stones in this fight are affordable housing, investing in neighborhoods, opportunities for our youth, keeping residents and visitors safe and all while prioritizing ethics, financial stewardship and good government.

C (3:35)

The new City Council will meet for the first time for a regular meeting on January 20th. For GPB news, I'm Amanda Andrews.

A (3:45)

A congressional ethics watchdog says there is substantial reason to believe the former chief of staff for Georgia Congressman Mike Collins hired his girlfriend as an intern and that she didn't perform proper work. The former chief of staff, Brandon Phillips, now works for Collins. Senate campaign Collins is one of three Republicans aiming to unseat Democratic U.S. senator Jon Ossoff. The House Ethics Committee is extending its review of the complaint. Collins office calls the complaint a bogus attempt to derail his campaign. Collins rivals in the GOP primary are already criticizing him. Federal agriculture officials have announced how much farmers will get in one time economic aid for financial losses in the 2025 crop year. The U.S. department of Agriculture published a list of per acre payments differing by type of crop last week. The Farmer Bridge Assistance Program is aimed at shoring up American farmers until more long term support kicks in from the Trump administration's One Big Beautiful Bill act later this year. Ben Boyd grows peanuts and cotton, among other crops, in East George's Scriven County. He's grateful for the support, but this.

B (4:50)

Is a band aid at best. You know this doesn't fix our problem. And our problem is input prices. And until we get these input prices, everything we buy back in check, we're going to really struggle.

A (5:02)

He says he'll likely plant fewer peanuts this year because the price he's getting for them on the market dropped significantly in 2025. Bridge payments are expected to arrive in farmers bank accounts by the end of February. Hyundai Motor Group says it plans to build AI powered robots at its massive vehicle factory in southeast Georgia's Bryan County. The company unveiled a strategy to roll out what it's calling Next Generation Humanoids in partnership with its subsidiary Boston Dynamics yesterday. The announcement came at the 2026 Consumer Electronics show in Las Vegas and included dog like robots dancing to K pop songs. Hyundai says the machines are intended to work alongside humans in manufacturing environments, performing hazardous and dangerous tasks. Since the United States government captured Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro over the weekend, several key questions remain unanswered. What happens next to Venezuelans if the US Will indeed run the country as President Trump claims? We what will that require? With me now to discuss this is Charles Shapiro, who served as U.S. ambassador to Venezuela from 2002 to 2004. He's professor of practice in the Sam Nunn School of International Relations at Georgia Tech and is president emeritus of the World Affairs Council of Atlanta. Thank you so much for speaking with me.

B (6:20)

Great. Delighted to do so.

A (6:23)

So we're talking on Tuesday morning, January 6th, and from where things stand right now, though President Trump claims to have taken control of the country, members of the government who served alongside Maduro claim to be in control. So what can you tell us about who is running the country right now?

B (6:37)

The same people who are running it before Saturday morning, minus Nicolas Maduro.

A (6:41)

And do the Venezuelans you've spoken to feel a particular way about that?

B (6:44)

They feel betrayed. They're saying, look, this is a dictatorship. You remove the dictator and then but leave all of the henchmen there. And that's essentially what's happened. It's Madurismo without Maduro.

A (6:58)

To what extent is there a sense of stability in Venezuela right now?

B (7:01)

Well, what's happened is the same police who are on the streets repressing people on Friday before the US Intervention are still on the streets today. So yesterday, seven journalists in Caracas were arrested.

A (7:18)

So it seems like what you're saying is it's essentially more of the same. What is it going to take for the US to follow through on its promise to run the country? Is this going to require more military, military intervention, in your view?

B (7:31)

Well, it requires insight into what President Trump and the cabinet are planning. It certainly appears they're putting stability over return to democracy. And it's really key. I mean, who, how do you get the police in the military to switch loyalty?

A (7:47)

Right.

B (7:47)

I mean, all the police and all the military who've been hired in the past 25 years are loyalists of first Hugo Chavez and now Nicolas Maduro. Okay, so how do you get the sergeant in the army who has spent his whole career under the Chavez system, Chavismo, to switch his loyalty to something that you and I would call democratic, impartial enforcement of the laws?

A (8:16)

Sounds like your question is somewhat rhetorical. The answer is you Don't. Right. You have to replace those people somehow.

B (8:22)

Well, you've got to work on it really hard. I mean, I think one of the things that we did in Iraq was we fired the army right away and fired the police right away, and then the country descended into chaos because there was no police and no army. So my guess is that's what they're trying to avoid. But what you've got is the 70% of the people who voted for the opposition and the stolen election of a year and a half ago or, you know, going like, what the heck's going on? This is the same. Nothing's changed.

A (8:57)

President Trump has said that this action is at least in part about oil. And to put it mildly, US Companies have had a difficult time operating in Venezuela for the past couple decades. Assets have been seized, judgments have not been paid. There was corruption. What do you think it would take to make it easier for American companies to do business in Venezuela without needing the US Government to stay in Venezuela long term?

B (9:17)

What it requires is a system of laws that are applied impartially. You know, both criminal laws, but also commercial laws. You know, commercial code. The two big oil majors, US oil majors, had their concessions seized in 2007 when the Hugo Chavez government nationalized the oil fields. And that meant the millions of dollars of equipment that they had invested in drilling equipment, wells, pumps, pipelines, refineries, ports. Loading all the stuff you would need to get oil out of the ground, move it 250 miles to the coast and put it on a ship, was seized by the government, and they got no compensation for it for him. So, as you can imagine, those companies are really upset. There's an international system for deciding commercial disputes called icsid. Icsid. And both companies went through, you know, this ICSID system and said, the government of Venezuela owns ExxonMobil and ConocoPhillips. This amount of money for the property they seized, and the government of Venezuela has not paid it.

A (10:45)

Venezuela is not Iraq, of course, but what are the aspects of Venezuelan culture or government that could lead the US to get stuck there like it did in Iraq after toppling Saddam Hussein?

B (10:56)

Well, first of all, you were right when you said Venezuela is not Iraq. It's not. You don't have different ethnic groups. You don't have religious. I mean, obviously they've got Protestants and Catholics, but you don't have huge battles with people trying to kill each other over religious issues. Like in Iraq, you don't have private militias. So now you do, because the government has militias that support them. Everybody speaks the same language. I mean, Latin America and the United States are both part of Western civilization and culture. You know, we read the same books, we go to the same sorts of churches. I mean, so it's a lot easier in Latin America than it is in the Middle east, where you run into all kinds of issues which we have a hard time deciphering, understanding, and working with, you know, but people have strong feelings in Venezuela, just like they do in the United States over politics, you know, so you can see all kinds of things that can go wrong. I mean, the people that didn't vote for the opposition feel very strongly about Maduro and love him and love Chavismo. And those people tend to be the poorest elements of society and the people who have benefited from the social spending of the Chavez and Maduro governments.

A (12:23)

So what I'm hearing you say is that because Venezuela is more united by language than Iraq was, less divided by religious differences than Iraq was when US Invaded, it's possible that at the very least, it will not descend into the kind of civil war like we saw in Iraq after the invasion.

B (12:39)

Oh, absolutely possible, not guaranteed. And that's the key. I mean, I've got Venezuelan friends, you know, that I'm texting back and forth with. Some of them are in Venezuela, some of them are outside of Venezuela, you know, going, what the heck? This is the same. This is if you got rid of Hitler, but you left Himmler in charge. Right? This is the same system. Nothing has changed what's going on here. Right. So you've got that huge disappointment.

A (13:09)

Well, thank you so much for speaking to me about this very complicated issue. Charles Shapiro was U.S. ambassador to Venezuela from 2002 to 2004. He's a professor of practice at the Sam Nunn School of International Relations at Georgia Tech and is President emeritus of the World Affairs Council of Atlanta. Thank you so much for speaking with me. We appreciate your time.

B (13:28)

Thanks, Peter. I appreciate it.

D (13:33)

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A (13:57)

In Georgia sports, the head football coach at Gainesville High School is stepping down, fresh off an appearance in the state championships. In his four years at Gainesville, Josh Niblett led the red elephants to a 459 overall record and and two state championships, most recently in December when they lost to Thomas County Central. The school said today that he plans to pursue an opportunity in college football at the University of Georgia. Two standout Bulldogs have declared for the NFL Draft. Linebacker C.J. allen and wide receiver Zachariah Branch both announced their decisions on social media yesterday. Both are viewed as first round picks and the Atlanta Hawks fell to the Toronto raptors last night. 118, 100 last although the Hawks struggled overall in shooting, Onyeka Nkongwu nabbed a 17.12 rebound double double. They next face the New Orleans Pelicans at home tomorrow. And that's it for Georgia Today. Thank you so much for tuning in. We've got a lot of news coming your way this winter and spring as the legislative session is just about to begin. We're going to have a lot of reporting on laws in the making and we won't want you to miss any of it. So make sure you subscribe to this podcast. Follow us on social media. We're PBNews and make sure you check gpb.org news for the latest headlines. Now, if you have feedback for us or maybe there's something you'd like us to cover, you can let us know by email. The address is georgia todaypb.org we love hearing from you. Your messages go to the entire Georgia Today team. Again, that's Georgia Today and gpb. I'm Peter Biello. Thanks again for listening to Georgia Today. We will see you tomorrow.

D (15:43)

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