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Host Mika Altidor continues a Get Obsessed podcast conversation with Stefano Siciliano, using the life of 1800s abolitionist John Brown to question claims that today is the worst time in history. Mika notes Brown endured extreme hardship, high child and maternal mortality, and fought slavery despite being white, ultimately giving his life for the cause. Stefano argues that while methods and appearances change, the fundamental “mechanic” remains: the pursuit of freedom from what is not true, with modern slavery expressed through deception, banking, and corrupt political systems. He says fear of loss drives greed and manipulation until people hit a crisis point where nothing works, creating the opportunity to be “available” for what’s possible. Availability depends on how one responds to adversity, like river water smoothing resistance in rocks.

00:00 Welcome Back Part Two

00:37 John Brown And Hard Times

03:29 Freedom Then And Now

05:19 Fear Loss And Corruption

05:47 Hitting The Wall

06:34 Choosing Availability

07:47 River Rocks Metaphor

08:43 Modern Comforts Still Misery

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