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A
Foreign. So why a therapist? How did that come about?
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B
Yeah, I get asked that a lot. So initially I was going to be a pro football player until I hurt my knee. No, I'm just kidding. But I mean, dream big, man.
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A
That's what I say.
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B
Yeah, exactly, exactly. So if I didn't have that knee injury, but a therapist, I think what really changed me because again, initially I wanted to be an audiologist. Then that doubt kind of hit me and I was just like, no, I'm good. I think what changed me is when I sought therapy at nocd, the. The therapist was like, hey, you have pretty good insight on your ocd. OCD is like a hidden epidemic. Like, no one like, or it's something that is not treated correctly all the time. There's not a lot of providers. There's not a lot of good providers out there. Like, I think you'd be really good. And I'm like, is no CD hiring? And they're like, yes. So I'm like, let me try it. I was already, I already finished grad school. I was doing therapy, trauma informed therapy and all that fun jazz. And I'm like, my life has been miserable with ocd, but I was able to get better with it. Let me help others. And then I reached out to nocd, they said, nope. And then I reached out again and they said, nope, not. I'm just kidding. They actually said, yeah, let's, let's, let's, let's do an interview. And I was hired. And then once I learned even more about ERP and was able to apply those skills, I saw people getting better quicker. I was like, wow. Even my other jobs as a therapist, I have never seen someone get quick feeling better this quick. I'm like, this stuff works. And then it kind of just was so gratifying. I'm like, I literally just saw people that don't want to live anymore. Now they want to live. There's no better feeling. So, like, that I can't. There's no price I can put on that. It's crazy that I, I landed and became an OCD therapist, but the, the reward to see people actually get better like myself is remarkable. So, like, I don't think, A, I'm ever going to not be an OCD therapist, and B, ever probably lead. No cd. So I think you guys are stuck with me.
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A
That's what I say too. They're stuck with me. Yeah, that's okay.
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B
It's okay. So. But it's definitely, definitely gratifying to help other people with With OCD because it ERP works.
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A
Some people will talk about to becoming an OCD therapist and the training that you have to go through. You went to grad school, you had OCD and I'm betting what you knew before you joined us and went through our training was a thimble full of a Olympic sized pool of OCD discs.
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B
Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also say too like grad school is great. I went to grad like I did the medical social worker route and for clinical, medical social or sorry clinical social work and I could be biased and, or anything but I learned more clinically at NOCD than I did in grad school and that I've, I obviously I can treat BFRBs, OCD. I'm working on B DS. If I do the trauma, do the hoarding, like there's so many, they don't touch upon that with in grad school I felt like if there was any way to just like kind of skip grad school and just go there like I would have done that in a three year route. So like no cb. The, the training is remarkable and why I love it so much is like when I meet with a client it's not. You're not just working with me, you're. I have a whole team that has my back that if I don't know how to treat like a certain symptom I can talk with the best experts of OC in the, in the country and if not in the world. So like it's like a whole team approach. So I would say no. See like I learned more than I did in grad school and that's nothing about with grad school. I think it's a systemic thing, they got to work on that. But I think the clinical training that I received here is second to none and I, my confidence has grown so much by just going to consultations, talking to experts in the field and I also like being able to ask questions to learn and not once have I ever asked a question at NOCD and one of the leadership or anyone co workers go that was a stupid question. It's more of like no code. I want you to keep learning. I'm going to teach you this. So I am very, very excited to be able to keep learning. But nocity has been in my opinion remarkable and better than the grad school that I went to. So. But still not saying it better, but I learned more clinical stuff than there. They only touched upon it.
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A
Yeah. I've thought about if there's a retirement career potential for me it would be. I think we do need to revamp the graduate school training that we get to become therapists. And I think that there's not enough focused on evidence based treatments at all. And therefore we're doing a disservice to people by not knowing those things when we graduate. But we can still go get a license and practice a lot of diaphragmatic breathing and muscle relaxation that we teach people to do when that isn't necessarily the best treatment to do.
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B
Exactly. And I also, I feel like ethically, NOCD does an amazing job at hiring and even with associates, but then hiring, putting them through training and then kind of sending them out to be able to work. A lot, lot of people that even myself getting out of graduate school and then going, say, being an associate and then working for different companies or different private practices, they're like, okay, here. And they inundate you with all these clients and you're like, I don't have all these skills, I don't know what to do. And like, I'm like, my, my confidence is not there because I've never been able to apply. So no cd at least you have that, that foundation to be able to, to do the cams, to be able to do the mock clients and have that initial experience to be able to work with clients instead of like a typical grad student gets out goes works. If they go to a private therapy, they're working with cases they, they don't have experience with. And I, and I've dealt with that. I was working with cases a long time ago, I shouldn't have been working with them. And that is an ethical issue in my opinion, to be able to treat someone that I'm not an expert or a specialist in and actually potentially harming them. So I love how NOCD really equips people with that initial baseline base knowledge and then continues to encourage and focus and strengthen their ability by going through consultations and having them, you know, keep building their skills. But I wish everyone was like, no ski, but
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A
well, thank you. It took some time to set that
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B
up, but I proud, I thought it happened overnight.
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A
Yeah, proud of the work we did with that too. I'm so glad you talked about the training that people go through because there was so much time and energy that was put into that training for, for our therapists. And we continue to tweak that training as much as possible. We want to make sure that people know coming here that the therapists they're working with have the knowledge that they need to have about OCD about exposure and response prevention therapy. And you, you just described exactly what I was hoping for. You really felt that it gave you what you needed.
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B
Exactly. And I will forever continue to try to promote even some of my previous colleagues that I used to work with that are in therapy to try to join the team or also continuing to. Any therapist that wants to get the best training and want to specialize in OCD and OCD related disorders, I continue to encourage them to join the NOCD network or to work with us, the team. I can't say enough. The training that I received is second to none. But also it's the training that is great, but also the fact that the continuous support and there's of course there's going to be hard cases to be able to navigate through, but I'm never alone. The constant consultations, the ability to kind of, to send a message out on slack and to get 20 other colleagues expertise on this is very refreshing and very reassuring. So I don't ever feel like I'm alone and I'm always going to try to get other clinicians to work at NOCD because of the fact of the training you get and the ability to kind of work. It's not just ocd. You can work with a range of other diagnoses, which is great. And I can't say anything highly like or enough about the team that we have here. And a lot of the my colleagues, they're becoming really close friends and and again, like I said, I don't think I'm ever going to leave. So if you want to work at NO C, I highly recommend giving it a shot. If a job position opens up, you won't be disappointed.
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A
Awesome. Thank you.