Protect the Sacred (Feat: Allie Redhouse Young)

Summary

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Gettin' Grown – "Protect the Sacred" (Feat. Allie Redhorse Young)

Podcast: Gettin’ Grown
Hosts: Jade and Kia – Loud Speakers Network
Guest: Allie Redhorse Young, Founder of Protect the Sacred
Date: October 14, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode, released near Indigenous Peoples Day and ahead of Native Heritage Month, focuses on Indigenous visibility, allyship, cultural preservation, and inter-community solidarity. Jade and Kia welcome Allie Redhorse Young, a Diné (Navajo) organizer, storyteller, and founder of Protect the Sacred—a movement empowering Native youth and connecting them with elders, language, and ancestral knowledge. The conversation covers respectful terminology, meaningful allyship, real-life cultural challenges, and practical ways to honor Native peoples beyond the performative.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Respectful Terminology for Native Peoples

Timestamp: 20:20–22:36

• Allie emphasizes using tribal names and, when possible, their true names in their own language (e.g., Diné rather than "Navajo").
• "Native" is preferred over generic or outdated terms.
• Performative respect versus actual honoring is a recurring theme.

Quote:
"We prefer the names of our tribe, and not the names that were given to us by colonizers... Native is also OK."
– Allie Redhorse Young, 20:51

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2. Allie’s Story & The Origin of Protect the Sacred

Timestamp: 23:49–30:33

• Allie grew up deeply rooted in Diné traditions, with strong ties to both medicine and cowboy cultures.
• Protect the Sacred emerged during COVID-19 to urge Native youth to protect elders—the vital bearers of ancestral knowledge.
• The movement leveraged internal community solidarity and external allies (celebrities, organizers) to mobilize resources and amplify Native voices.

Quote:
"I started using the hashtag Protect the Sacred because I was trying to tell our young people, step up as leaders right now, because our elders are in danger, and they hold that ancestral knowledge..."
– Allie Redhorse Young, 27:11

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3. Cultural Preservation Amid National Challenges

Timestamp: 31:37–34:31

• The panel discusses defunding of museums (e.g., Smithsonian’s Native branch), threats to education (like attacks on critical race theory), and the necessity of grassroots organizing.
• Protect the Sacred and similar initiatives fill the gaps when federal systems fail, focusing especially on keeping tradition, language, and stories alive across generations.

Quote:
"When those federal dollars are frozen, it impacts our communities... when those services aren’t there, they are turning to organizations, community mutual relief efforts. And that’s how we’ve always survived."
– Allie Redhorse Young, 32:11

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4. Meaningful Allyship: What Does It Look Like?

Timestamp: 34:31–38:21

• Visibility is baseline; authentic allyship includes building true relationships and sharing platforms, not centering oneself.
• Celebrities like Mark Ruffalo are cited as examples of purposeful allies who show up, listen, and amplify Native leaders.

Quote:
"True allyship with the Native community looks like acknowledging our existence. That’s all we’ve ever asked..."
– Allie Redhorse Young, 35:14

Quote:
"They actually come to the community, they walk with us, they march with us, they make valuable relationships...and they're here for the long haul."
– Allie Redhorse Young, 36:33

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5. Land Acknowledgments – Doing It Right

Timestamp: 38:21–40:27

• Land acknowledgments should not be empty gestures or for optics. They must be educational, accurate, and can be performed by non-Native people who do the research.

Quote:
"It should not be performative. It should be educational...Do your research and offer that land acknowledgment at your events or even a small group gathering..."
– Allie Redhorse Young, 39:35

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6. How to Be a Good Ally and Honor Native Heritage

Timestamp: 42:20–44:56

• Uplift Native voices, especially youth, by sharing stories, following Native social media leaders, and buying directly from Native businesses (not fast-fashion imitations or exploitative sources).
• Examples of Native-owned brands/resources: B. Yellowtail, Urban Native Era, Eighth Generation, Jamie Okuma.

Quote:
"Invite us to your podcast is a great example...uplifting and amplifying their voices...support and uplift them, share about them, buy Native-designed clothing..."
– Allie Redhorse Young, 43:27

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7. Connecting Generations: The "Connecting the Rainbow" Initiative

Timestamp: 48:51–52:43

• Protect the Sacred's new initiative connects elders and youth, pairing them for intergenerational learning and storytelling through sacred site visits, workshops (podcasting, filmmaking, writing), and supporting dissemination to both Native and non-Native audiences.

Quote:
"It's an intergenerational program that creates space for Native youth and Native elders to build relationship together...we’ll host sacred site visits...and storytelling workshops..."
– Allie Redhorse Young, 49:10

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8. Everyday Words and Phrases from Native Languages

Timestamp: 55:20–58:35

• Many U.S. state names (Michigan, Massachusetts, Connecticut, etc.), cities, and words like "bayou," "skunk," "squash," have Native origins.
• Some "mainstream" phrases are inappropriate/degrading (e.g., "powwow," "off the reservation," "Indian giver," "peace pipe," "spirit animal"), and should be avoided.

Quote:
"There are phrases that people often use that you should think about...let’s have a powwow...off the reservation...‘Indian giver’...those are harmful."
– Allie Redhorse Young, 58:35

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9. On Overused Spirituality: Using Sage and Cultural Appropriation

Timestamp: 63:14–65:01

• Discussion about proper use of sage and cedar (medicine/prayer in Native traditions). Mistreatment and commodification (using sage for "positive vibes" without proper context or intention) are discouraged.
• True use should be learned from the culture it belongs to, and not commercialized.

Quote:
"Sage, things like sage and cedar, is medicine to our people...don’t use it in the hippie yoga type of way."
– Allie Redhorse Young, 63:22

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10. Final Reflections: Honoring Indigenous Peoples Day & Ongoing Support

Timestamp: 67:14–68:27

• Indigenous Peoples Day is a call to action, not a one-off hashtag. Support for Native organizations year-round is vital.

Quote:
"Just remembering that Indigenous Peoples Day is not a hashtag, it’s a call to action...honoring Indigenous peoples and our contribution to this country, to democracy—every day."
– Allie Redhorse Young, 67:14

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If you are marginalized and you got recipes, they’re in danger, girl." (Jade, 12:36)
  A humorous but pointed reminder on cultural preservation.

• "We are in it together, and we gonna be all right." (Kia, 77:24)
  Closing words of solidarity during hard times.

• On Mark Ruffalo as an ally:
  "He always says, Allie, I don't want to be the center of this event. This is—you’re the leader, you’re from this community...I want you to be ahead of me."
  (Ali Redhorse Young, 41:37)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Respectful Terminology & Identity: 20:20–22:36
• Allie’s Background & Protect the Sacred’s Origins: 23:49–30:33
• Preserving Culture in a Hostile Climate: 31:37–34:31
• Defining Allyship & Avoiding Performative Actions: 34:31–40:27
• Promoting Native Brands & Youth-Led Efforts: 43:27–46:19
• Connecting the Rainbow—Elders & Youth: 48:51–52:43
• Everyday Words with Native Roots / Harmful Phrases: 55:20–60:55
• Sage, Appropriation, and Spiritual Practices: 63:14–65:01
• Final Reflections on Indigenous Peoples Day: 67:14–68:27

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Style and Tone

The episode is conversational, honest, at times humorous, and always grounded in respect. Both hosts bring warmth, authenticity, and a clear-eyed perspective on cultural struggles and joys, and Allie’s insights are educational but never condescending. There’s frequent gentle joking and a welcoming “Kitchen Table” feel—accessible for all.

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Practical Suggestions for Listeners

• Educate Yourself: Seek out true histories, tribal names in their correct language, and amplify Native perspectives.
• Support Indigenous-Owned Brands (Not Knockoffs): B. Yellowtail, Urban Native Era, Eighth Generation, etc.
• Be an Ongoing Ally: Share platforms, repost Native organizers and youth, and contribute to Native organizations (Protect the Sacred, NARF, Indian Collective, UNI, CNAY).
• Avoid Harmful/Appropriative Language and spirituality fads.
• Lean into Cross-Community Solidarity: Recognize parallels in struggles and advocacy.

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Useful Links (Mentioned Organizations/Brands)

• Protect the Sacred
• B. Yellowtail
• Urban Native Era
• Eighth Generation
• Native American Rights Fund (NARF)

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For anyone seeking to honor, support, and learn alongside Native communities, this episode offers both perspective and a roadmap—rooted in respect, real connection, and action.

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Transcript

[Jade]

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[Kia]

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[Jade]

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[Ali Redhorse Young]

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[Jade]

Your next party up in the place. I see you getting down can't help it look and got a crowd around you now you're the baddest thing I seen tonight so come on girl let's put it in flight I got the V12600 sitting outside of the door so bring it on by the way your body's blazed for and that's a little something that a nigga craves for It's a quarter three Girl what's it going to be?

[Kia]

Show you got her eyes on me.

[Jade]

Yeah we've been talking since two Girl what you going to do? Oh tell them that you're right with me It's a quarter past three Girl what you going be?

[Kia]

Girl what you going to be showing?

[Jade]

Got her eyes on me We've been talking since two Girl what you going to do? I've been telling why? What does he even say there? I've been chilling at the embassy. What? What embassy? What kind of Hague is this? What was Donnell Jones? It's Darnell Jones.

[Kia]

I was about to say, has anybody rolled past the house?

[Jade]

Where is it? Let me see. Let me see where Donnell is. Hold on. I can tell you I almost ruined everybody's day by singing Hamilton when I came in. Just because Noah's ruined my day with it, but I don't know enough of it to ruin. Y better be happy for whatever reason.

[Kia]

If I have like a really like extensive project or if I have like a heavy admin day at work and I need to get some real work done, I will put on Hamilton and I just be at my desk like Alexander Hamilton.

[Jade]

Listen, I know I'm. It's unpopular. Crystal be getting so mad at me. Noah. Noah did it to me. She was like, we're listening to Hamilton, disc one and two.

[Kia]

Oh, wow.

[Jade]

Because you keep playing with me. Because every time she asks, I find a way to divert her attention. And so she finally held my feet to the fire on the drive this morning. And so I had to look around, look around. I hate it. And then here come Lynn Bellwell like a Kool Aid man and the embassy.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

End up.

[Jade]

Like, shut the up.

[Kia]

The worst part though is that. Yeah. I mean, it's hard to like watch Hamilton or listen to it and then don't then like, go about your day and not quote it for the rest of the day. Because I just being in the room where it happens. Because I'm in the room where it happens, you don't want to miss that. But I'm sorry, sis. I mean, listen, and it's. I mean, you only had to do one car ride, so you didn't even get through the whole disc.

[Jade]

Oh, no. This nigga's going like, she's going to. I'm lowkey. She caught a little cold and can't go to school tomorrow. So I'm kind of glad we don't have to do so then I'm hoping the cold wipes a little bit of that mim and we can go back to my Kanye before. You know, Kanye BC era is which what I've been introducing her to as of lately. We just finished late registration before Kardashian. That isn't be. No. Because he. Because he lost his mind before them. Honestly, fair if. If you remember, he lost his mind somewhere around. It was in the Amber Rose era. I'm not blaming Amber Rose, actually. Yes, I am. Because she deserves everything bad. But. But we don't. You know, I. You saw how I immediately as I was. I was like, wait a minute, you right. No, girl, you don't get no grace over here, actually. But that's when he started really like showing. You know what I'm saying? And so it was in her era. By the time he got into the. To the. To the Dashians, it was already gone. They just took advantage of it and he, you know, he just ain't never been the same since Dondo went. You know what I'm saying?

[Kia]

You're right. You're not wrong about that. Praise the Lord.

[Jade]

Yeah, praise the Lord. Yeah, praise the Lord. Not Kanye's Lord, but the. The one he thinks he is, and.

[Kia]

That'S what the problem is.

[Jade]

But we don't have to talk about it. But people really like his gospel music. I have not listened to it because, again, I don't listen past point.

[Kia]

I don't know that we. I feel like we give him a lot of credit for it, but it's not his. Like, I think that. That those albums are a compilation of, like, very classic gospel songs that he has maybe covered. I would give at best.

[Jade]

Let's see.

[Kia]

And I think, you know, it really is like the Sunday services, that Sunday service. It's a choir. Like, I don't give him a lot of credit for that because the person that is directing and arranging those songs is not Kanye. That's a. His name is Jason something. Somebody said it. I don't remember.

[Jade]

What's the one that people keep playing on their Tick tocks, though? What's the clip they keep playing on the Tick Tock? Is it Lord, lift me up? Hold on.

[Kia]

I don't know. I don't be on the Tick Tock like that. Now. Let me see. Service choir. His name is Jason something or other. I know everyone.

[Jade]

I'm doing this. Oh, because my Bluetooth is on. Let me turn that off. And then let's go from. Let's see. And then how come Donda is credited on every track? Is he using her voice? I don't know, because again, I won't listen past a certain period. But I know that there is a.

[Kia]

Song that people keep putting on the famous Jason White.

[Jade]

Jason White.

[Kia]

And he had a choir in a group, and then he, like, hooked up with Kanye and that became the Sunday service choir, if I'm not mistaken. But, you know. You know, I have always considered that music just a function of, you know, how central, how amazing choirs are, period, full stop. But also just like, it's more about that sound. And I feel like that Kanye was able to amplify this choir and leverage his platform and making them, like, really known.

[Jade]

Fascinating.

[Kia]

It's not like those albums were filled with songs that Kanye wrote. They were not. They were. They were covers of classic gospel songs, arrangements of other, you know, commonly widely sung gospel music. And it. And it had sort of that Kanye sort of splash to it. I'm sure his production hand probably helped in cultivating that sound, but I feel like people like that because it's good music. I don't see him a lot in it. Like, he's not on the songs. He's not talking. He's not.

[Jade]

You know, you wait for the best thank you. Yeah. Cause probably for the best period, because I. I have not been able to. I. The last thing I listened to was Life of Pablo, and that was just before he started that Red Hat mess. So once he started that Red Hat mask, that's when I had to. I had to check all the way out.

[Kia]

I am only talking about. The only album that I have is that one that came out in 2019, Jesus is born. That's the one that I. And this was again prior to the Red Hat man. So anything that has happened after that, I'm not talking about.

[Jade]

Song. What's the. Hold on. What's the viral Kanye gospel song on.

[Kia]

Sunday Service Collective and Kanye West.

[Jade]

What is this called? God Is. No, y' all are just. Okay, let's.

[Kia]

There is a song that they have called God Is, but that song is older than me again. This is them just remaking.

[Jade]

I don't know. It's the one that people keep using on their tick tocks and stuff.

[Kia]

Okay, well, we can find it.

[Jade]

Okay. Is it. Wait, hold on. Let me just see one more time. Let me see if it's this God Is. I don't mean to say it like this. Let me see if this God. I didn't mean. I wasn't even saying like that. You know my heart. Oh, where vultures see. How do you. Okay, Donda praise God. Is that the one that's. That they keep using that she wrote? No, that ain't it. Well, anyway, I will.

[Kia]

Jesus.

[Jade]

Lord, Lord, Lord, I need you.

[Kia]

Listen, if y' all know what it is, y' all let us know so that we can help. Because I don't know, cuz y' all know I'm losing my mind. I need to know.

[Jade]

How are you, sister? What's going on with you?

[Kia]

Listen, we're hanging in here. You know, we're doing the best we can. We are safe. We have what we need. We're doing the best we can with what we got. And. Yeah, that's it, man. I don't know.

[Jade]

Yeah. Just ever hanging on by the thinnest of threads. So grateful. So grateful. Yes.

[Kia]

How are you?

[Jade]

Same.

[Kia]

You said same.

[Jade]

I'm trying to lean into my Stephen Colbert. You know, he had a interview with Anderson Cooper and he was. He and Anderson, and he. He told Anderson Cooper, you know, just his philosophy on life and that you got to be grateful for every part, even the bad parts. Yeah, we forget it. So I'm like, you know, I have beef with Caucasian British people right now because they're gross and I'm trying to be grateful for the beef that I have with them because. Because I'm miserable.

[Kia]

I love that. I love that so much.

[Jade]

I'm miserable. But, no, I'm. I am grateful. I have. I have what I need in the midst of all of this ghetto hell. I'm not doing any news this week because. Full transparency. We're recording right after my last hacking episode where I gave you all a full breakdown.

[Kia]

Yes.

[Jade]

As I struggle to breathe.

[Kia]

We're still. Jade is on the mend, but we are. We're moving through, and it's gonna be. If we have a good show just on the heels of Indigenous People's Day, because we don't acknowledge that other man, and whatever he did, that's nothing to do with us. So we are. We are celebrating and, you know, spending space and time with one of our good native friends that has come to the Kitchen Table to. To, you know, educate us and spend some time with us and share some of the great work that she has been doing in terms of preserving Native culture and helping you to not lose those recipes. Okay. Because our recipes is not the only ones that's in trouble or in danger.

[Jade]

No, no, listen, if you are marginalized and you got recipes, they're in danger, girl. So, you know, we have to do our very best. And. And yes, our guest is coming to the Kitchen Table. She's specifically of the Navajo Nation. She. She breaks down for us a better meaning. Danae. I think I said that right? I probably. But also, yeah, really, really helping us to understand the way she's been working for her community, specifically to preserve culture and also ways that we can take some of these things into our own and continuing to preserve ours as they continue to ransack our museums and our lives. So please tune into the Kitchen Table. It's really a very lovely discussion. Oh, also, before. Before we head to the Kitchen Table, don't forget to check out the Patreon where you get the video version of this podcast. It's also the best way to support Key. And I hear Getting Grown. Also, we got merch365. Okay, so I think right now, but. Or at least right now, we have merch. So make sure you check out the merch at Getting Grown Co, and then you can click the Shop tab and you'll get all things merch. Holidays are coming up. Support black. You know what I'm saying? Support marginalized support, not white corporate greed. So with that being said. Oh, and also, don't forget to continue to send your honesty box questions, your petty peeves, your feedback and all things in between at hello Gettinggrown co. And now we can head on over to the kitchen table.

[Kia]

They do it Emmy Award winner in the Bronx Owned Kerry Washington returns as Dr. Virginia Edwards in Audible's heart pounding super supernatural thriller the Prophecy Season 2.

[Jade]

Also starring Giancarlo Esposito, Dulay Hill, Rinzi Felice and Ebony Obsidian. The battle between good and evil reaches new heights in this action packed sequel that pits faith against fear and pushes the fate of humankind to the edge.

[Kia]

Follow every twist and turn as Virginia and her miracle son Joshua flee from Detroit pursued by the sinister Luther Bell, played by Giancarlo Esposito and his morning.

[Jade]

Stars Cult with her estranged husband Ryan and Moses Dulay Hill, a devotee with a mysterious past, Virginia finds unlikely allies in Samson and Delilah. Together, they uncover the truth about Joshua's place in ancient prophecy. Each perilous step of their journey is guided by Virginia's haunting visions. While Belle's force closes in, threatening to.

[Kia]

Tear their worlds apart as natural disasters erupt, Virginia must embrace her role as both mother and chosen protector.

[Jade]

But will it all be too late? Evil is rising and time is running out. Do not miss Kerry Washington and Audible's new must listen the prophecy season two. Go to audible.com prophecy2 that's the number two. And start listening today.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

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[Jade]

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[Ali Redhorse Young]

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[Jade]

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[Kia]

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[Jade]

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[Kia]

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[Jade]

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[Kia]

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[Jade]

Welcome back to the Kitchen Table. We are so excited because we haven't had a guest in a while. As you all know, we've been on tour and I'm excited to get back into really fruitful conversations, you know, this fall. And so I think this is a beautiful start. So Ali Redhorse Young is a powerhouse DNA organizer, storyteller, and founder of, of Protect the Sacred, where she's educating and empowering the next generation of Native youth and allies to lead with courage and sovereignty. Through Protect the Sacred. Ali registered thousands of Native voters, mobilized young people to the polls on horseback and skateboards and turn grassroots action into national movements with the backing of cultural icons. Her work shines a light on the ways Indigenous communities carry democracy and cultural survival when federal systems fall short, which we know they do oftentimes. So, ladies and gentlemen, and everybody in between, please welcome Ali Redhorse Young to the Kitchen Table. Hello, Ali. How are you?

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Hello. Great to be with you all. Thank you for having me on.

[Jade]

We're so excited to have you on this. I think this is such a necessary conversation as. As this comes out. Actually, I believe this is coming out during Native Heritage Month, which we know is in November and then off the hills of or just before Native Heritage Month.

[Kia]

Yeah. This is coming right after Indigenous Peoples Day.

[Jade]

Yes. So I think it is a very timely conversation. We are two communities in this country, among many, but two communities that they fall short often in honoring what we actually deserve as a people. And so I think unification is really important for us to come together and understanding the work that has to be done, the work that's being Done. And how we can do that together to make things as best as they can be in this very ghetto world. But, Ali, how are you doing today? How are you feeling? First, let's start off there.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

I'm feeling okay. It's a Monday, and I'm always. You know, I always have, like, the Sunday scaries, but it's an okay week. And next week is, you know, we'll be celebrating Indigenous Peoples Day, and just really excited. This is. The fall is a really celebratory time for the Native American community.

[Jade]

Mm. I wanted to actually start off because I want to, you know, even we talk often about things that are going on everywhere. What's going on in Gaza, what's going on in Sudan. And as I learn more and more, I'm like, middle east don't sit right. Right. So it was like. Because it's. Who's Middle East? So we have. I wanted to first ask you, what is the respectful terminology when we're. When we are referring to native peoples? Like, what. What do you all prefer?

[Ali Redhorse Young]

We prefer the names of our tribe, and in. Beyond that, not the names that were given to us by colonizers, but the. The names that we call ourselves in our language. So, you know, we're widely known as Navajo, but in my culture and my community, we call ourselves Dine, which is. Yeah, it's a word in our language that means the people, and so we prefer that. But, you know, we also recognize that a lot of people don't know tribes or tribal names. Navajo would be okay. And Native.

[Kia]

Okay.

[Jade]

Native is preferred. Thank you for that. Because I don't feel like we. I don't know if I've ever heard anybody clarify what. What. What's respectful. You know what I mean? Even with the law firm I was telling you about earlier that I worked for, when I first went, I was confused, because they refer to themselves in ways that we don't anymore. And so that's where I was like, okay, listen, I'm not here to come up in people's spaces and tell you how you need to dictate yourselves, because that's not my space. I don't want anybody doing that to us either. But I also. I'm like, what? You know, what is What. What are we supposed to say? What is respectful? So thank you for that, and I'm glad you broke down Dine, because as I was. As I was reading it, and I wanted to make sure that I understood what was what. I love the. The reference and what that really means. And so thank you for sharing that with us. Sis, were you about to say something, or did I?

[Kia]

Yeah, yeah. No, I think building on that, though, I think, you know, as Jade was saying, there, unfortunately, a lot of the actual real history of Native people, particularly in this country, but around the world, is something that's not often spoken. And as you said, Ali, a lot of times we hear it through the voice of colonizers. So was just wondering for our listeners, who may not be as familiar as they would like to be about sort of. Generally speaking, just sort of Native identity, Native experience, Native culture, like, you know, how would you introduce yourself and your work to someone who doesn't know as much as they would like to know about who you are, you know, and how. You know, as you were saying, how you. Your people describe yourselves, you know, just. Just for some general grounding, because, you know, we only hear these things through certain lenses and certain voices, and that's unfortunate. But, you know, here's an opportunity for you to speak for yourself. So let's just start there.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Thank you for that. I would first say yat, eh, which means hello in my language, in Dine. And, you know, say hello and introduce myself as a Dine woman from Dinetop, which is Navajo land, and also bring into the conversation the work that I do, which is in service of Native American youth. And within the Native American community, there are these sort of two pillars of our society that we revere the most. On one end is our Native youth, and you often hear us say, the next seven generations. So those who. Who are. Who've yet to come. And then on the other end is our elders and our ancestors and that ancestral knowledge. So those are the two communities within the Native community, that two demographics that we revere the most. And that's what Protect the Sacred is about. It's about service, being in service of Native young people, nurturing their leadership that, you know, is instilled in them. They come from a legacy of survivors and, you know, resilient people. And Protect the Sacred is about reminding them of that lineage and that legacy that they come from. And then we also honor our elders and that connection between youth and elders. It's so important to bridge, you know, that gap and to make sure that they are connected and our young people are still learning our languages and our. Our cultural traditional practices. So that is the sacred in the organization's name.

[Jade]

Beautiful. Tell us about, like, your background. So you gave us. We know where you come from, but now, like, tell us a little bit how you got started in your work. And where you know your journey.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Sure. I am from the Navajo Nation. I grew up in ceremony, and I grew up very traditionally, but my both of my paternal and maternal grandfathers are medicine men. So I come from medicine and people. I also come from cowboy culture, and you'll see that a lot in my work. I come from a long line of Indian cowboys and cowgirls and bull riders. I myself wanted to be a professional barrel racer at one point in my life, and I feel like I've already lived a bunch of different lives. I worked a little bit in Hollywood, and I was living in Los Angeles for about seven years before COVID hit. And when Covid hit, that was an opportunity for me to come home and work from home and be with family. And then that quickly turned into launching Protect the Sacred. At that point. I'd been in the nonprofit world for probably three or four years. And I work for Native Americans in philanthropy for harness, which is a nonprofit that was founded by America Ferreira and Wilmer Valderrama. They're still my fiscal sponsor to this day. But when I came home, I also used to work at Indian Health Service and Public Health. So my public health friends and physician friends, they knew, they had insight into what was happening as far as Covid numbers and what was about to happen to the Navajo Nation. They called me in and said, we know that you do a lot of work with young people, and you have that connection to that community. Can you help us formulate messaging to young people about what Covid is, what they need to be doing, why they need to be staying home, their families, and especially the elders, the ones that are the most vulnerable, they're the ones that were dying at higher rates in our community, and we became the number one hotspot per capita in the country as far as Covid cases and Covid numbers. And that's where Protect the Sacred is born. Because when I jumped in and started to help with the messaging, I started using the hashtag Protect the Sacred because I was trying to tell our young people, step up as leaders right now, because our elders are in danger, and they're the ones who are culture bearers and our knowledge bearers, and they hold that ancestral knowledge that we're still learning and the language that we're still learning. So we need to protect all of that knowledge is sacred, and we need to do our part. So that's where Protect the Sacred kind of just became its own thing. It just kind of had a life of its own, and it grew, and I didn't expect it to become an organization. But young people messaging resonated with young people. And then we started organizing Facebook live thing. And then because I worked in Hollywood, I brought in my connections like Mark Ruffalo and Paul Rudd and, you know, folks that I had opportunity to meet along my journey. That brought bringing them into the picture, helped to bring the national spotlight on what was happening in the Navajo Nation and the fact that we're chronically underfunded in terms of health care, education. And we needed help at that time, and so young people responded. And then people wanted to invest in what we were doing. And now, you know, we've been five years as an organization.

[Jade]

Awesome.

[Kia]

That's dope. I think, you know, Jade and I talk a lot in. I think a lot of our work, especially recent, has begun about, like, preserving culture and why it's so important to make sure that, you know, younger generations don't lose the historical heritage that has preserved our people for so long. And so it's just dope to sort of see how this work has taken shape, even leveraging Covid. You know, it's become an opportunity to highlight the importance of that work moving forward. So, you know, I don't want to say Covid is not behind us. Hello. But we are still facing, you know, now another, like, paradigm shift culturally. Well, it seems maybe it's not a shift, right. Maybe it's not that huge a departure from other parts.

[Jade]

It just feels big. It feels very.

[Kia]

Way more tangible and obvious and undeniable. And just curious around how, like, what this climate in this time means for your work. How is that shaping what, you know, Protect the Sacred is doing now and why this work is so critical for young generations.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Well, what's happening now is making their work harder, more difficult, for sure. But it is. I think it also, it reveals to folks why organizations like Protect the Sacred and also others in other communities are important and they're needed, they're critical because in a time when museums are being defunded and critical race theory is threatened. And then especially around tribal nations, many tribal nations, because of our unique relationship with the federal government, you know, we're a government to government relationship, nation to nation, and we have treaties with the federal government. So a lot of our programs, you know, I mentioned Indian Health Service, that's a federally run program. A lot of the programs for our people in our communities are federally run. And so when those federal dollars are frozen, it impacts our communities. And so when those services aren't there, they are turning to organization, community organization and community mutual relief efforts. And that's how we've always survived. We turn back to each other and to community, to relatives, and that's what protect the safety is about. So it's so important because, you know, with revitalizing and preserving ancestral knowledge, traditional practices, language and those stories and uplifting our young people as those storytellers who are passing on that knowledge and sharing it cross culturally as well. That's so needed right now when the Smithsonian and the Native American heritage museum in D.C. are shut down. So, you know, this work, this work is needed to combat the, you know, propaganda and this agenda that we're up against.

[Jade]

Go ahead and say it, girl. You can say it because that's what it is. It is, it's propaganda. And it's also, it's just hateful and made up rhetoric and a direct attack on everyone who's not white. So. And even an attack on people who are white who don't even realize that they're being attacked and they voted for some that's gonna attack them. But don't get me going because I'll go down the lane. Talk to us about allyship, especially as we're talking about how we are affected. Talk to us about what true allyship with Native communities looks like. What is that? What does that really look like? When for us.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

True allyship with the Native community looks like acknowledging our existence. That's all we've ever asked is we've, we have lived in our ancestral homeland and we've been invisible for centuries. And I lived in Los Angeles where I was riding in an Uber, having a conversation with the driver and, you know, he asked, where are you from? And I'll say, I'm Native American from the Navajo Nation. And he's like, oh, I've never met a Native American before. I've only seen you all in westerns with the Indians and, you know, just the, the ignorance and it's. And it was, it was on purpose, you know, making sure that our story was not told by, authentically by us.

[Kia]

Yes.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

And I always say that the negative stereotypes that exist of Native Americans and really of all, you know, oppressed, disenfranchised communities was birthed in Hollywood.

[Kia]

And.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

So I put the onus back on folks I work with like Mark Ruffalo, Piper Perabo, others who, they've taken on that responsibility. And I would mention them as true allies who don't come in and do offer their social media platform. They actually come to the community, they walk with us, they march with us, they make valuable relationships with community leaders, youth leaders, tribal leaders. And they're here to. For the long haul, to help us in our fight. And they're not here to come in during COVID you know, during a hot topic, you know, when it's hot. Hot. But yeah.

[Kia]

Yeah.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

So that's what I would say is a true ally is being a true.

[Kia]

Ally is.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Giving us space, offering us space to have a voice and to amplify, say, inviting us to the table, especially when it comes to impact how it impacts our communities. And, and so I, you know, I've worked with political leaders before and I've told them you have to invite us to the table, especially when you're creating policy that impacts tribal communities. We need to be at that table and our input because we live with those, you know, barriers every single day. We have the solutions, community solutions. So that's my long way of saying offer a space. Acknowledge us.

[Kia]

Yeah.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

That you are on land. And there's back and forth on land acknowledgments.

[Kia]

Land acknowledgments. I was going to ask you about that, I feel, because, you know, at work it's sometimes like it's touch and go. Sometimes, you know, folks are, you know. Yeah, like you said, the reviews are mixed. Some people are all for it. Other people not so much. But, you know, I think it is. I think. I think you didn't ask, but I think that it is. It is not. I think that it should be done. I think the challenge is in how it's done. Sometimes the way that it is done is hyper performative and very much like, I want you to see me doing this so that, you know that that performance would indicate something that. That I have some value that I may or may not have or may or may not articulate. So it seems like, are you doing this for the cameras or are you doing this because you actually care? And I think that's where it gets. It gets sticky. What would you say? Is that what it is? Or is it. Or is there. Is there a right way? How do we check? How do we sort of make sure that we are not assuming in those instances?

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Yeah, I. I think I was gonna say the piece around being performative, it should not be performative. It should be educational. And you don't always have to have a Native person do a land acknowledgement. I'm actually very. For non Native folks doing the research, looking up the land that they are on, you know, access to information at our fingertips. Do your research and. And offer, you know, that land. Acknowledgment. At your events or even. Even a small group gathering in a. In a living room. You know, it doesn't have to be on the, On a stage, but that constant acknowledgment of the existence of indigenous peoples.

[Jade]

For sure, absolutely.

[Kia]

Thank you.

[Jade]

I love. My daughter's school used to do that often because New York is primarily Lenape land. And so they were. They were really intentional about that. And I appreciated that their social justice focused on social justice everywhere and acknowledgement everywhere. So thank you for giving us that perspective as well, because I think often, like he has said, people don't know what. They don't know what to do. And, you know, I, I, you know, I, I respect when people will not call this America. They'll call it Turtle Island. But then it starts getting tricky because, you know, then they're just performing everything like we just talked about. So I'm like, you know, how do we do this in a respectful way that's not, you know, putting everything out, out there like that? I also love that you've continued to mention Mark Ruffalo, because Mark Ruffalo has been really vocal also with what's going on in Palestine. But I don't ever see him centering himself in these efforts. And so to see that that work has expanded across the board. You got a fan in me.

[Kia]

My guy.

[Jade]

You got a fan of me? I am. That's awesome.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

And he truly doesn't. I've worked with him many times, and any time, whether it was around Covid or our voting work, he always says, allie, I don't want to be the center of this event. This is. You're the leader. You're from this community. How to speak to your community. I'm offering, you know, the spotlight that I have, but I want you to be ahead of me. I want you to be in front of me. I want you to be the one, you know, welcoming everyone, and, you know, I'll come along. But this is about you and your community.

[Jade]

Absolutely. That's how it should be.

[Kia]

I mean, speaking of amazing allies, I'll speak transparently. Like, this is a space where I am growing, I think, in my professional work. I'm starting to work with tribal colleges and understanding sort of the ways in which they function and how they are preservers of culture in that way. And I have a lot of respect for all that they contribute to our nation and to the world. But in the vein of wanting to be meaningful in how we honor and our allies, is there a roadmap or strategies or tips that you can share for people who want to meaningfully honor Native people, especially given, you know, Indigenous Peoples Day and Native American Heritage Month that is coming. What are ways in which we can be thoughtful participants in these celebrations and help to lend our voices to amplifying, you know, how. How this culture is honored?

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Well, inviting me on to your podcast is a great example. And so, you know, if you have a platform, sharing that platform, a lot of the voices in our community, we're sort of doing it alone. And our megaphone is our social media. And we have, you see a lot of Native experts, scholars, organizers on social media, and they have a powerful voice. And so uplifting them, reposting them, sharing them on your stories, just uplifting and amplifying their voices. And because I work with youth, I'm gonna also advocate for uplifting our powerful Native youth leaders. Look up CNAY and UNITY and even our work through Protect the Sacred, you know, and I've mentioned Native youth organizations where you can find all of our organizations. Spotlight rising Native youth leaders. Support them and uplift them. Share about them. Buy Native designed, you know, clothing. Don't. Don't chop on Shein and see like a.

[Kia]

Please do not do that. Please do not do that.

[Jade]

Not only will you light yourself on fire accidentally, possibly, it's also just, please.

[Kia]

Do not do that. Are y' all kidding? Don't do if I better not catch any of you.

[Jade]

Do you have any brands you want to shout out that we could support? I, I, if I may say one.

[Kia]

No. If I catch any of y' all on Shein, I promise I'm not gonna be good. But please continue.

[Jade]

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[Kia]

Y' all better not.

[Jade]

Is a. Is a company that makes bombs, okay. And spices and seasonings. I purchased from them through Etsy. I believe that they're still there. But please share us. Share with us some. Some brands we can support.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Be Yellowtail.

[Kia]

She's okay.

[Jade]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

An amazing Northern Cheyenne Crow woman. And so be Yellow tail. There's urban Native era. So if you've seen those caps that say you were on Native land, that is urban Native era. You have Lauren. Good day. Eighth generation. And so we. We always encourage folks to buy blankets from 8th generation versus Pendleton, because Pendleton.

[Kia]

Is not a company. Okay, you have.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

What else is? I mean, there is so much out there, but there's Jamie Okuma and a lot of really talented Native fashion designers.

[Jade]

Okay.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Simple Google shirt search will lead you to this.

[Jade]

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[Jade]

I as we're talking about preserving culture and youth and the really important connection between elders and youth because you really touched on something with that. I've been sitting with my grandfather quite often. My grandmother just passed away, so I've been sitting with my grandfather quite often, just soaking up as many stories as I can. Sitting with my other grandmother, soaking up as many stories, recording her. But a lot of times we don't understand the importance of that as certain parts of our youth. Right. How do you get your youth involved in love with what you're doing?

[Ali Redhorse Young]

I'm really excited about a program that we're soft launching this fall and.

[Kia]

Oh, come on. Softland. And with we love us.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Yes. And with more funding, we can make it. We can build out the program and.

[Kia]

We can have y' all heard it. Yep.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

We can have a. Have it be a core program, which it should be. It's called Connecting the Rainbow. The name comes from the rainbow. In Dina, culture is a symbol of the transfer of ancestral knowledge. And also it represents your life's journey. And so it's, it's a path, but it's also the colors of humanity. And so when we talk About Connecting the Rainbow. It has, has that rainbow imagery and, and on one end of the spectrum is our elders and ancestors and ancestral knowledge. On the other end of the rainbow is our youth in the next seven generations. And so Connecting the Rainbow is about that bridge. It's an intergenerational program that creates space for Native youth and Native elders to build relationship together, one on one relationships. And then we'll host sacred site visits so those, those pairs of Native youth and Native elders can be out at these sacred sites and the youth can learn from the elders about their experiences and the stories that have been passed down to them about those sacred sites. The second part of that program is offering storytelling workshops to Native youth. So podcasting, filmmaking, writing, even music. So then for as part of the program, Protect the Sacred will help the youth identify a story that they're learning from the, their relationship with the elder. And then we'll help their creative journey in identifying which medium they would like to use to tell that story. And we'll have on our website those storytelling projects available for, you know, wider consumption. We want non Native people to be aware of these projects that are created by Native youth and told by Native youth. And in that way that cross cultural learning also happens really important because Native ancestral knowledge was intentionally, they attempted to eradicate it. And so by sharing this knowledge, I do believe that we would be in a better place as a society if that didn't happen. Because so much about Indigenous ancestral knowledge that goes back to our relationship with Mother Earth and that, that right there, that foundation teaches us how to be compassionate and empathetic to, you know, if we're that way to Mother Earth and to animals and the four legged, of course we're going to be that way to our relatives and to other human beings. And so it's Connecting the Rainbow is.

[Jade]

About revitalizing that knowledge that is, that is so beautiful and so meaningful. And I, and I appreciate you giving the reach out that, that is something that we should tune into. I think oftentimes too there's a fine line of like a lack of understanding of what we talked about earlier. And then also especially with us as a people wanting to protect sacred spaces and, and offer people their spaces for, for them as a people, because everything is not for everybody. So I appreciate these invitations and these reach outs for the things that we all should be a part of because then there are things that we can also carry back to our own communities because these stories they're trying to eradicate, like you said, marginalized communities across, across the board period, the history, the Everything. Everything. The stories, the. The sacred culture of it all. So. And have been. That's been the M.O. since day one. So I appreciate that very much.

[Kia]

Yes. Good perspective. And I'm even, like, in this moment, like, as you were talking, because there's a net in here that is trying to take me out, and I was, like, just about to kill it, but then you started talking about how we have to have respect. Respect.

[Jade]

So she's not talking to it.

[Kia]

She's like. When she started talking.

[Jade]

Please.

[Kia]

And I was just like, okay, missing that. I'm gonna let you have it. I'm gonna let you have it. I'm listening to Ali right now, and I am learning in real time. My life is changing because I was literally over here, like, oh, my God, you just let me get my hands on this and that. But you. I was like, you know what? Maybe Mr. Nat wants to be a part of the. This episode.

[Jade]

Listen.

[Kia]

And so we might just let it.

[Jade]

And you heard them at the right moment. You heard.

[Kia]

I did. Because I was really over here getting pissed. To say, you know what? It was a good check. Like, let me stop what I'm doing and. And reconnect and listen, okay? Because I need. It was a distraction. Mr. Nat was trying to distract me, but he just wanted to hear what Ali had to say, too. And so.

[Jade]

So is Mr. Post nasal drip is taking me out. But, Ali, I have a question for you. And it's more of just kind of an informative, I think that would be fun and nice and people should know. So, Ali, so many words in this country come from native origins, but people don't know. And so I thought it would be just a fun little piece to share. Maybe some terminology or words that we use often that we might not know come from native culture.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Okay, let me think about that.

[Jade]

I know. Michigan. Oh, yeah, Michigan. Right. Michigan. Most. A lot of our state names, actually.

[Kia]

Massachusetts.

[Jade]

Connecticut.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Yes.

[Kia]

Connecticut.

[Jade]

Yes. Okay.

[Kia]

Okay. I've pulled up a couple on down.

[Jade]

Okay.

[Kia]

Alicia.

[Jade]

Yes. Yeah. Come on. Google. Yes.

[Kia]

Even things like bayou and Skunk. Bayou is Choctaw.

[Jade]

Okay.

[Kia]

Skunk is of the Massachusetts tribe. Tribe Toboggan. Like the hat at toboggan.

[Jade]

I didn't. Oh, okay. Ali's like, I didn't know either. Shit.

[Kia]

That's what he's saying.

[Jade]

Not that you're supposed to be all things, you know, you're not supposed to know everything. I just wondered if the word.

[Kia]

Oh, hickory. Hickory tree gets this name from a food. The Algonquin Speakers of Virginia called Pa Chikara. Sorry, Paco, hikara. And what else? Let me see. Of course. Well, yeah, toboggan. Also Algonquin squash, the vegetable.

[Jade]

That makes sense. Okay, that does make sense.

[Kia]

That makes sense.

[Jade]

O child.

[Kia]

And other like. It says all the geographical terms. So states, Illinois, Delaware, Massachusetts, Iowa, Kansas, Alabama, Missouri. I did not realize that cities like Miami, Biloxi, Natchez, Witchita, Spokane, Lakes like Erie, Huron, in the Missouri Lake and in the mountains, of course, like Appalachia, Mojave. Is it. Is it Sahasta or Sasta? I don't know. I don't want to butcher the things, but. Yeah, that's. It's. It's a lot of geographical terms, but also things like. I never knew. I mean, squash makes a lot of sense, but I guess I just.

[Jade]

Squash makes sense. I know. I just didn't even think about it. But you see, this is why we have to have these conversations. Because why don't we know that these have native origins? Why don't you know that half of these damn states are of native or native origin names? And it ha. And holds some of the most racist people. What a juxtaposition.

[Kia]

Yeah. When groups of English speakers. It's so fascinating how the dictionary says this, right. When groups of English speakers begin to settle, like. Is that what y' all call it? Okay. It said the word squash was already a part of native vocabulary. It was a verb used as a synonym for crush, as it still is today. And so it says etymology. Listen, it says it was borrowed, AKA stolen.

[Jade]

But stolen.

[Kia]

Is diplomatic. Okay.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

What I will add is our phrases that people often use that you should think about.

[Jade]

Oh, yeah, that. Do it. Talk about it. So talk about it.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Let's have a powwow, you know, like a staff meeting.

[Jade]

Yep, yep.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Don't.

[Kia]

You know, I have. I have stopped that down to my workplace.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Yeah.

[Kia]

Now that. The one prior to this one, it was like.

[Jade]

Don't.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

No, because Apollo is a very sacred, you know, cultural thing to many tribes. And so when you're demeaning it like that, it's not. It's not cool. So that one. And then there's also. I think it was like when. When folks say, like, off the reservation, you know, that. That is.

[Jade]

Oh, that is.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

I think it means. It's to. It means when they use that phrase, it just means, like, being off. Like, off the grid.

[Kia]

You know, I was at a. I was at a conference one time, and someone. It's a. It's a colloquialism that I'VE heard many times before. But the guy said it like on a panel, and everyone in the room was like. He was. He said something like, you know the term, like when people. Many chiefs and not enough Indians.

[Jade]

That's another one. That's another one. Y cuz, why would you say that? Oh, also sitting when we Indian style was crisscross applesauce.

[Kia]

Yeah, that's another one.

[Jade]

What about spirit animal? That's. I feel like that's so wrong.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Yeah, it is. Especially the way it's used, you know, in like, sort of like hippie environments. But yeah, I would say stay away from that one as well.

[Kia]

I've also heard that, like saying things like bury the hatchet or circle of wagons.

[Jade]

Like they didn't think of buried.

[Kia]

Yeah. They perpetuate stereotypes. Yes. So.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Even like when you're. When we use the, you know, term being a pioneer for something like, think about that.

[Kia]

Mighty God. Yeah. That's crazy.

[Jade]

No, is a colonizer. Is a thief. Is a murderer.

[Kia]

Yeah.

[Jade]

Is what that is. Ain't no pioneers.

[Kia]

So I had a conversation with some, some. Some family members, older family members. Right. Because there are things that, you know, have become a part of sort of just American lexicon that like, we're talking about are rooted in these problematic, you know, in oppressive periods. Right. And so things like Indian giver. Indian giver. What? Don't ever say that again. And peace pipes. My grandfather watches a lot of Westerns, so it is work. It has been a work trying to get him out of saying some of these. And it's very innocent because he's literally just repeating all the things that he's heard watching tv. He does not recognize. But as I'm trying to explain why it's problematic for him to say these things like these, you know, I'm coming up against like. Well, what do you mean? But I mean, it's an opportunity to talk and have those larger conversations. But again, we talking about people in their 80s and 90s.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Yeah. With. With other cultures. You know, I have a. An amazing friend. Her name's Lisa Meads Bryant. She's a. A black showrunner in Hollywood. And, you know, she enlightened me about, you know, like, picnic is also.

[Jade]

Yes.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Picnic. And like, you know, the jig is up. Like some of the.

[Jade]

Yes. Strange fruit. All of those things. Like we just. When people use these terms very loosely, she's not, she's not wrong. So I love when we learn these about each other's cultures. Right. So that we can keep people in check as allies across the board, because we're only going to be able to do this unified. Like, that's the only way we're going to be able to sustain this thing in general. We see what's happening. We're only going to be able to do this on a unified basis. And so I appreciate candid conversations like these where we're able to get honest. I have another question for you, and I think the girlies need to hear it. Sage. I feel like I have learned that you're not supposed to be sage in your spaces.

[Kia]

The people finna be tight, please.

[Jade]

So I would like to get your perspective on sage.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Sage. Things like sage and cedar is medicine to our people. That's how. That's how we use that to pray. And, you know, we believe. So if you're not using it for. For prayer and you're like, saging your space and, you know, there's a fine line between honoring it and like, you know, doing yoga and saging your face. But, you know, if you're. If you're truly using it, I. I have, you know, white friends who deeply respect Native American culture, who have immersed themselves in it, who have been to Sarah and they utilize sage, but they. They have come to our community and seen it in practice, and they know how it's supposed to be used, and it's an intention. And they also practice offering their own spaces. So if you're using it like that, I think that's okay. But don't use it in the hippie yoga type of way.

[Kia]

Yeah. So there is a practice. You're saying that it's a practice around. It is not just, you know, the act of acquiring it and burning it and just waving around in the air. It comes with something.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Yes. And it's. It's an offering.

[Jade]

Yeah, it's.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

It's the way we believe that when you light sage, when you light cedar, that smoke carries up to creator. It carries those up to creator.

[Jade]

Okay, thank you for that. Because I have. I've heard different things. You're not supposed to purchase it. You shouldn't be purchasing sage from, you know, if you've gotten it from here, you need to bury it in the land as an offering. You know, oftentimes Now I will say the folks that I know who use it, like, personally, that I know it is for an intention in their space. But I do think that understanding that meaning more so is really important.

[Kia]

And like, I think, you know, just like with tacos and other things, like, I feel like things get commodified in you Know, in, in our capitalistic sort of culture and way of being, it becomes a trend and trends, you know, our revenue streams for, for people. And so I think it is good to sort of just bear this, this in mind.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Now we'll go buying sage from those crystal places.

[Kia]

Or Amazon.

[Jade]

Absolutely right. Oh, child, please don't. Or Palo Santo, if y' all are gonna do Palo Santo, which serves a similar purpose. Don't go getting it from them shops either. They don't know what they're doing.

[Kia]

They don't like, like all the little, you know, pop up empanada shops in the airport. It's like these are not real empanadas, but don't have it. I know y' all want. I know y' all think y' all making something over here, but what is this? Thank you, Ali.

[Jade]

Yeah, thank you so much because this is such important work, not just in you. You're not here to be a, you know, a dictionary or, or to rattle off things to us. But thank you for actually sharing how you can be respectful in sharing cultures and sharing information with one another and really understanding one another at the foundation of it. So I know we kind of touched on it earlier, but I think my last question to you would be, you know, as we are coming up on Indigenous People's Day and Native Heritage Month, you've kind of shared different things that we can do, but is there any finite, any fight, anything final that you want to share on how we can really honor during this time? Even though it's. It shouldn't just be for that time, it should be ongoing.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Just remembering that Indigenous Peoples Day is not a hashtag, you know, it's a call to action. It's something we should be honoring Indigenous peoples and our contribution to this country, to democracy. Every day.

[Kia]

Every day.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Every day. And, you know, I just think I, you know, continuing to support, you know, the work that's being done out there, the work that is contributing to, you know, the movement building that's happening in this country, supporting Native organizations like, you know, Protect the Sacred Indian Collective, Native Organizers alliance, you know, Unity cnay, the Native American Rights Fund, you know, and I underscore Native American Rights Fund because that is, I think, something that, you know, a lot of Native communities are going to be leaning on the next, over the next three child.

[Kia]

However long we need to rely on it, however long we need to rely, we will rely.

[Jade]

I see. Yeah, I get choked up on that time period because I don't know what that's about to look like it's already.

[Kia]

Felt like three years. But listen. Okay, no, that's very helpful. And you know, listen, this is hopefully not the, the, the last time you join us at the kitchen table. The kitchen table here are getting grown is a space where we sort of collectively process and make meaning and try to add knowledge and value to our lives by sharing information. And so, so that we can be good stewards of our assignments in the earth. And so we, we are very appreciative for you coming and sharing yourself and your work with us and with our community. You are welcome here. We are grateful that you joined us and we, we will continue to celebrate and amplify the great work that you're doing. And thank you for being here. You're welcome back anytime.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Thank you for having me.

[Kia]

Of course.

[Jade]

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[Kia]

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[Jade]

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[Kia]

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[Ali Redhorse Young]

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[Jade]

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[Kia]

Who am I, Grandma? Time schedule the aunties. When dinner is served at 5pm Eastern, you better be here.

[Jade]

Listen, the salad's in the fridge. The lamb is. I made, I made A leg of lamb. I rubbed it down with some Greek yogurt and, you know, some salt, pepper, and, like, garlic powder. And then I cut some garlic heads and put it underneath and some onion. And then I threw it in there with some beef broth with some whole Roma tomatoes that I had that were getting ready to go bad. So I was like, that'll be good in a. In there. And some rosemary and some sumac. Yes. And then I let that. I braised that in the oven. I made some parmesan couscous. Parmesan spinach couscous, and. And then a tomato feta, cucumber salad situation.

[Kia]

Very classy.

[Jade]

Very, very done. And so I'm just really proud of that. I'm really, really proud of that. So that's my self care. And I know that's right. But also another. I know that's right. Which is a little bit of a shout out. We want to shout out our sister, Crystal Jean, because she has announced her solo show, Crystal's couch. Exciting.

[Kia]

Very exciting.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

I know that's right.

[Jade]

So we have to give her her just do. I also want to shout out Michael Arsenault, our good.

[Kia]

Oh, yeah.

[Jade]

Who's been on the show.

[Kia]

Oh, yes.

[Jade]

Who is launching a podcast with Candy of the Real Housewives.

[Kia]

I'm excited. It's called undomesticated, I believe domesticated.

[Jade]

So shout out to Michael. Shout out to Crystal. And I wanted to shout out to Candy, who probably would hate that I call her that. But sorry, sister, that was my long story. I won't call you that face. Okay. I'll be respect. I mean that in the most loving.

[Kia]

Absolutely.

[Jade]

It's usually when my friends are trying to run down the crass crab biscivities to me, and then, you know, I'm like, okay, the girls are fighting. And I'm like, no, who's this?

[Kia]

Okay.

[Jade]

And they were like, no, this girl. She came. She had her together. But. And I saw her name.

[Kia]

Yes. Jay refers to the Real Housewives of Potomac as the Crab bisque Girls. I just.

[Jade]

The Real Housewives of oyster crackers. This is a forby for my entertainment and amusement only.

[Kia]

Yeah.

[Jade]

You would choose to laugh along. You will welcome.

[Kia]

Yes. Very good. But no, congrats to Candace. I know she just had a baby and we're excited about.

[Jade]

Oh, congrats.

[Kia]

Yes. And so excited for her and for Michael and for Crystal Jean. It's a lot of amazing shows out there for us to all indulge.

[Jade]

And then I have to shout out my brother George out in the Netherlands, because George got a new job, and he was chosen out of 120 applicants. So I learned this today, and it just. I just was so happy. I was so proud. It was one of those moments. I was like, I'm so proud of you. That's a big deal. To be chosen out of 120 people, that's a big deal. So I'm really proud of him, and I'm really proud of everybody here. Can't wait to see your projects and hear about your jobs. And what about you? What you got? What you got this week?

[Kia]

Listen, my. I know that's right. It's very simple. I just, you know, last week was very heavy, but I made it through. And, you know, I wanted to just acknowledge that we are in a heavy time. And it's okay if you're not okay. It's okay if you have hard days. It's okay if you get up in the morning and it's hard to hope. It's okay if you struggle to pray.

[Jade]

It's.

[Kia]

It's okay. Because, you know, we are negotiating times that are not unprecedented, but for many of us, we've never. Yet we've never experienced some of the things that we're experiencing. So I wanted to just create a little space for anybody who was like me, who really has been in a fight to keep your nervous system somewhat regulated. And I just want to acknowledge that that takes a lot of effort, a lot of energy, and a lot of work. And so you have. If you have been able to negotiate these very scary times and still find a way to hold on to who you are and what you believe in. I just wanted to say big up to you because, you know, I. You know, it's a fight, and every day is a struggle, but there are still things to be grateful for. There are still things to look forward to. There are still things to celebrate and find joy about. So I wanted to just sort of share.

[Jade]

Yes.

[Kia]

Share that. It was racking my brain. Like, I don't really have a lot to say because I don't feel like.

[Jade]

I made Aretha. I made Aretha Franklin proud today. I'm like, I figured out what to cook for dinner, and I made it. The fact that if that's not a dig at the bottom of the purse, I don't know what it.

[Kia]

Honey, honey. Okay.

[Jade]

Because we are literally pulling together the crumbs of the bottom of the bag to. To find the joy.

[Kia]

Truly. So I just wanted to. To say that and just to let the people know if you two are struggling to put your feet on the floor. When you wake up in the morning, sometimes you're not by yourself. And we are in it together, and we gonna be all right. But. Yeah, that's my. I know that's right for me and for you. Period.

[Jade]

Yes. Oh, God. You know what else? One more thing. Sorry. I thought of this on a whim. Reading Rainbow is coming back, and in a day and age where they are trying to take away every level of knowledge and education and beautiful things that mean something to us, I was so delighted. And cut funding. I was so delighted to see that not only is it coming back, but it's coming back with one of my favorite librarians, Michael, who is just a joy and a delight as a human being. I would love to have Michael on Getting Grown, actually.

[Kia]

Me too. Yeah, me too. I was gonna say, but no. Yeah. I mean, I've been a long time fan of Michael's work, and I feel like this is just an amazing fit. It is so perfect. It is so good. It is what the game needs.

[Jade]

Yeah.

[Kia]

And so, yeah, we'll. We'll try to make that.

[Jade]

I was actually making it. I was trying to make a note to put Mike to, like, reach out to Michael to be on the show, and then I have my screensaver changes. Why she look like that? Oh, that picture made me laugh. Sorry. But, yeah, I want to try to get Michael in the show. So we're gonna work. We'll try to work through that if we can. And I'm ready to get negative. Let's go on over to these petty paves. Let's do it. So as much as we fight to find the joy in this world right now, I also realized that, like, it was hard for me to figure out a petty peeve a. Because nothing's petty right now, outside of the fact that Trump. That Trump flag that that man has outside his house near Noah's school. When I tell you every morning, I fantasize about lighting it on fire, but that's not. That's part of. Actually part of my petty peeve. Not just, like. Not that flag in particular, not that house, but follow me.

[Kia]

Okay.

[Jade]

I don't watch the show, but my homegirl was telling me about, you know, the show everybody's watching on Netflix.

[Kia]

Love Blind Love. I'm trying to exist if I want to do it. I'm trying to decide if I want to watch it. I'm. I'm torn because some people are like, yeah, it's crazy, but take a look. Other people are like, nah, Netflix need Their ass beat.

[Jade]

That's what. That's this con. That's where I'm leaning. My pendulum is leaning more toward that way because just from what she told me. So apparently they're letting maggot propaganda fly on the show. Oh, yes, the girls are racist. And then, so first and foremost, you know how you're not supposed to say, well, race you are, or whatever the case is. You know, love is blind, I guess black non existent. But, like, you're not supposed to say, so this white girl pushed this Asian boy, push, push, push, push, push for him to disclose. Because she knew. I think she knew. And apparently he disclosed and she had a weird response to it. Then there was two other white ones who were having a conversation about if their child was LGBTQIA plus. And they were like, it's a fad. And she's like, exactly right. And this is on the Netflix. So then also there is a special needs black man who apparently is kissing floors and picking his boogers and eating it on his camera. And I, between all of that information that I learned in all of like eight minutes of conversation, I feel like we need to light the Netflix on fire because what is this? What? This is complete. You all have. Have completely gotten away from what the original plot of this show is, which I think is hard to not do when things blow up. Right? That's what happened. Picking his boogies and eating them. He was kissing the floor in the men's pod, talking about he hasn't kissed nothing in a while or something like that, or he ain't been with nobody, he just needs to kiss something. Something. So you kiss the floor.

[Kia]

I have seen. There's evidently. I'm gonna find the link and send it to you. But evidently there's a clip of him. Of him? Yeah, there's a clip of him crashing out. So, like, he matches with a black girl and.

[Jade]

Oh, yeah, that too. About how he didn't get to have sex.

[Kia]

Yeah. And she said, I think they were talking about how, you know, again. And let's not not forget that this whole love is blind thing happens in about three months, 12 weeks. Less, you know, maybe less. But like the, the time from the pods to when people meet in, in. In real life for the first time is maybe seven to 10 days. So she matched with. They match, they meet. And so they start to, you know, I guess live together. And she discloses that, you know, I guess she wants to take this process seriously. And a part of that for her is not rushing to be physical.

[Jade]

Huh.

[Kia]

And he Loses his. I mean, loses it, sis. He starts Edmund, he's like crying and talking about how he's the nice guy.

[Jade]

And that's what she told me. He's always the nice guy. He's always the good guy. And how come everybody else got to have sex. That's also weird and predatory.

[Kia]

Very strange.

[Jade]

Like, outside of the fact that clearly he's not well, that's also predatory and weird. That's like. That's inappropriate. Edmund Harvey. That's his name. I just looked on the Internet. So that's my petty peeve. My petty peeve is. Is for. For the Netflix production of Love is non existent because you all know damn well that nobody that they aren't coming on this show for that no more. And you exploiting these people, exploiting that boy, you know, he's not well. And that irritated me just hearing about it and then don't I. Nothing will make me gag quicker outside of watching somebody throw up, then watching somebody eat their boogers on camera.

[Kia]

Oh, wow. I can't believe that. That, like, is a real thing. That is scary.

[Jade]

That's disgusting.

[Kia]

And yeah, we all should divest. I feel like that's the only way that we would be able to get Nick and. And that girl's attention and say, we.

[Jade]

Don'T appreciate the helm of this, huh?

[Kia]

Yes, that's what they do. They. I. I feel like they're the hosts, but I also feel like they're also the producers, if I'm not mistaken.

[Jade]

Allegedly.

[Kia]

Hold on, let me see Nick.

[Jade]

And while you look that up, I'll give you all Jessica Simpson and rendition of when she sang with Jewel.

[Kia]

Love is blind. Oh, wait, there's a petition. Somebody already said that they are the true villains of love. You see, the people are pissed. No, they're. I don't think they're producers there, but they're the host and they're. You know, people are really pissed with them. And so we are not alone after. I feel like, yeah, but that's the only way. I feel like that's the only way we're gonna get Netflix attention. That they got to stop doing what they doing. This is not entertaining. No, it is actually sad and exploitative and. And wrong. It's unethical.

[Jade]

I don't like it.

[Kia]

And I feel like this is how I know we getting older because stuff don't be funny. You know what I'm saying?

[Jade]

I mean, some stuff is funny. That stuff is not funny now, right? Apparently me and XD have pissed off a bunch of children. Oh, no.

[Kia]

What did you do?

[Jade]

We was talking about Therians.

[Kia]

Who?

[Jade]

Therians. You don't know what ethereum is?

[Kia]

No.

[Jade]

Why don't you go Google that right now for me? Right now. Live Therian T H E R I A N this is a good time. Kia looks. Let me tell Petrified y' all.

[Kia]

Animals. What is that? Therian is a subclass of mammals.

[Jade]

What includes people who identify as animals.

[Kia]

You okay?

[Jade]

No, no, no, no. They do. They larp outside. They wear tips.

[Kia]

A thean is an individual who identifies as a non human animal to some degree.

[Jade]

Yep. Sometimes to the pronoun. Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes they're polytherian.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Some people.

[Kia]

Who was it that was telling me that. That the children. Some. It was some child in the schools that was identifying themselves as a cat.

[Jade]

Okay, so here's the thing. Quick convo. The problem with that. The problem with that is that that agenda itself came from the. The far evangelical right. Right. So it also is a way for them to be able to like discredit trans kids and things like that, which is a. Is not the same thing. Which is one reason why I got an issue with the theory. And because I'm like, y' all are bastardizing. Like, you cannot biologically identify as this animal. These children who are trend. Who are identify as trans. This is. This is real. You know what I'm saying? Y' all are out here talking about I'm a raccoon in my spirit. Like, come on, man. So you know this. So the far right Republican people were saying, like, oh, they want to use litter boxes at school. And yes, from what I've seen with the. With the theory and kids, they wear ears and tails. It's. They sometimes will walk on four legs and they go larp in the. In the woods. And yes as. Yes, same thoughts as your face. Howsomever they also tried to use the litter box agenda as part of their hate agenda. Am I making sense?

[Kia]

You're making sense. And I feel like I have heard this in sort of like the larger rhetoric, but I feel like it was Renee. Someone like, who I know, who was an educator, was telling me that there was a child in their school that identified in this way.

[Jade]

Yeah.

[Kia]

And there were certain accommodations that were requested of the school. So I hear what you're saying, and I don't know the details of what all of the accommodations are or were. So I don't know.

[Jade]

I don't know about very well be wrong as I. I'm not. That's what happened with those people who were present because that was somewhere in Texas, I believe it was.

[Kia]

Okay.

[Jade]

It was one of them who was talking about the kids want to use litter boxes in schools. And I was like, y' all use stuff to continue to be hateful.

[Kia]

That's. Yeah, that's. That tracks. That track.

[Jade]

Yeah.

[Kia]

And I think those two things can be true at the same time.

[Jade]

Yes.

[Kia]

This, though, makes me think of an episode of Grey's Anatomy where there was a man who identified as a cat, and he had started to get surgeries to actually change his appearance to look like a cat. And he was adding whiskers, and he grew the nails long, and he literally had plastic surgery to add, like, to restructure his face to be more cat like. And the episode on Grey's Anatomy was that, like, you know, he. Because he had altered his appearance in such a dramatic way, he didn't leave his house because people would, like, stare at him. And that was something that he did not. Listen, I'm telling you. Okay, I'm just telling.

[Jade]

I know.

[Kia]

I'm sorry. So. So he left his house for one reason or another. Something very simple, like he stepped outside to go to the mailbox. This little girl saw him and ran out and got hit by a car. Or there was something like he caused some sort of accident. And so the whole plot was how he felt bad because, you know, in. In him, like, you know, him being himself caused harm to somebody else. Little girl got really sick and was, you know, in. In ICU or whatever. And then he snuck out of where he was in the hospital and to go see the little girl. And the little girl opened her eyes and saw him and screamed to the highest.

[Jade]

Nothing beats a jet to holiday.

[Kia]

Exactly. Imagine you as a little girl. You literally see this cat man in the street.

[Jade]

No. You run.

[Kia]

Then you get hurt. And then when you awake from your coma, you open your eyes, and the first thing you see. Oh, my God.

[Jade]

Because I have to be in hell. Hell now, like, that's got to be. What's going on? I died. I've been held. God is torturing me via this cat.

[Kia]

I did not know that. That. I mean, this. I just thought that was, like, a wild episode, but I did not recognize that. The Therians Theoreans theorem.

[Jade]

Therians, Therians. Therians are.

[Kia]

Because I'm saying. Well, in this one video, it's the T H E O R A N. And then there's T H. Oh, I've.

[Jade]

Never seen R I A N is the only. And polytheists are those who identify animals more than One. Sometimes they're a fox and a raccoon, sometimes they're a cat and a dog. Like, they. Maybe I sound.

[Kia]

I'm just. This is. This. I am in learning mode. I have never heard of these things. So I'm very much like, this is. Okay. I'm wrapping my brain around it. So the people are upset with y' all for what? What did you say?

[Jade]

Well, what I said was that Noah got some theorians at her school now.

[Kia]

Oh.

[Jade]

And her and her friends been sniggling and giggling. And then we had a conversation about a healthy dose of bullying. Even though we are very much on the anti bullying campaign, we also believe that there's a roasting and playing the dozens that builds character in a person. And so. And so I do feel like certain.

[Kia]

Kinds of conflict is good for character development element.

[Jade]

I do. Now, I told Noah, I said, now don't you be bullying those kids at school by saying nothing to them. You may sniggle and giggle to yourself. You keep that in your cranium here. I was like, you're not getting ready to be that type of. You're not going. We're not doing that. But. Right. I did laugh at the way that she presented it to me. And. And because it is bizarre and the fact that the other children think that it is bizarre. I don't know. I just. I might. Maybe I am. No, I can't get down with this. I'm sorry. I just. You can't convince me that you were supposed to be a mouse. Like, it just. Like, you just can't because you can't use mouse medication. You can't eat mouse food. Like, you can't little teeny pellets. Unless you are really lacking in fiber. Like, you are not a mouse. You'll never be a mouse.

[Kia]

Oh, my word.

[Jade]

Do I sound. But I'm not trying to sound maggot either, because I absolutely. I also feel like it bastardizes things such as the trans. I don't want to call it movement, but for lack of a better phrase, because I'm like, these are real human issues. And y'. All.

[Kia]

Experience of trans people.

[Jade]

Yes, thank you very much. Experience of trans people. I feel like it bastardizes that when you come and tell me that you are actually a coyote. Like, that's not the same. But I'm like, am I also, Ethel May. Could I be living.

[Kia]

Well, no. Well, I feel like there are extremes. Right. I do think that there. I think, you know, and to be fair, it's very. Having bias. Just. It's Very natural. Like, that's just how our brains function. The difference is what we choose to do with those biases and how those biases can inform our behavior and our decision making and how we treat people.

[Jade]

Yeah.

[Kia]

Yeah. So I don't. I don't think that we should get to a place where we cannot be honest about the things that we don't understand or that don't make sense for us. And I think that we all should. Like, you know, me saying, I don't understand that. That should not. That's not always. Doesn't always translate into I'm attacking that, or I don't think that that, you know, is a worthwhile thing to know. It's just that I don't understand that. I feel like what has happened in our current zeitgeist, if you will, it's like, you know, all things are extremely polarized, and, you know, differences are pitted against each other, so there is no healthy space for us to come together and. And communicate across those differences in ways that make us all better. That's what the problem is. The problem is not.

[Jade]

Yes.

[Kia]

Having biases or having. Or. Or, you know, you know, I don't.

[Jade]

Unless they call for harm, then that's what you bias. Yeah. You know, but I don't call for harm. I'm like, you want to walk on four legs and wear a tail and ears? I don't really give a. Like. But what we're not gonna do is. Is conflate a child showing up and saying, listen, I am. I. I did. I have. I ex. I. I have a. What is. What. How do I say this? I'm a trans child. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? I am a trans child. I don't want to use this bathroom because I don't feel safe using this bathroom. Just using that as an excuse. Right. I mean, as an example, I don't want to use this bathroom. I feel unsafe in that. When you then start taking your experience and coming through and saying, well, my child needs to. To lick milk out of a bowl, and I need y' all to make these special accommodations, that's when I'm like, no, this other child who is actually living a real human experience right now, it's supposed to like, what are we doing?

[Kia]

I think. Yeah. I think still wrap.

[Jade]

Trying to wrap my head around all of this.

[Kia]

Yeah. And I think it's just like a conversation that needs having, and I. And I don't know enough about it to sort of. I don't have an Opinion. Like I said, I'm just in learning mode here because this is something that is new to me entirely. I had no idea that this was the thing until you told me to Google that.

[Jade]

I was introduced in a. In a. In a way and through a real life experience. And I said, okay. And the way that this child was living was not bothering anybody. So that was the thing. The parents also didn't ask for special accommodations for this particular thing. That's where I start. That's where I start having an issue because I'm like, there are people who need real assistance and guidance through their experiences because they are not aligned with societal norms.

[Kia]

This.

[Jade]

Your kid was on the floor. And that just don't. No, I don't. I'm using something that animals do. I don't know. But I.

[Kia]

Well, yeah. So I think. Okay. Like, child. All I would say is, again, this is news to me.

[Jade]

It. It's new for us, sister. Look at us elders.

[Kia]

I know.

[Jade]

Do I sound like somebody's problematic grandma? I might be.

[Kia]

Back on honey, because I'm giving. It's. I feel like Rose Nyland at this table.

[Jade]

Yeah.

[Kia]

Why?

[Jade]

Yeah.

[Kia]

I don't even have a petty peeve because my mind is blown. My muffin cap is peel back blue.

[Jade]

You're welcome. You just go and sit with her for a while and, like, you know, marinate on it. We can talk about a few some more later.

[Kia]

I feel like d. I felt when he saw that man in the Target with the nail polish.

[Jade]

With the nail polish.

[Kia]

He was like, what?

[Jade]

And you're like, why can't you understand? I don't. It's just like, he's just choosing. And that's why I said, they can put on the tail in the ears. You can do whatever.

[Kia]

You.

[Jade]

You can walk on all fours. It does not affect my life, but.

[Kia]

Exactly. Well, what does it mean? I said, it doesn't have to mean anything. It could just want to put on nail polish today.

[Jade]

Don't care about none of that. But what it does mean when you start raising it, like, when white people start being like, I need you to cater to my child in this way. It's like, well, we got. We got kids to cater to who really got, like, some real going on. Like, what is this now? We're just.

[Ali Redhorse Young]

Well, yeah. Well, let's.

[Kia]

Yeah, it's a. It's. We are. We are living in complex times. And with that. With that, we thank y' all for joining us at the kitchen table for yet another episode of Getting Grown, a big, huge Shout out to our guest, ally, Red Horse Young.

[Jade]

Yes.

[Kia]

Coming through and sharing about Protect the Sacred and all of the great work that she is doing. It was awesome to have her and.

[Jade]

The space to be able to ask questions and have conversations and learn. Yeah, we're just grateful for that, to be able to have that, that open space. Make sure you all continue, continue to tune in. We're thankful for all of you who do every single week. We've got some amazing guests coming up in the coming weeks, so make sure you're continuing to check us out. We've got some fun announcements coming for the remainder of the year, so keep your ears to the speaker for that. Don't want to get no messages about how did I miss this again? I don't know. So with that being said, Said says take them out.

[Kia]

Yes. Make sure that you are taking care of yourself and moisturizing your mind by attending to the business that is yours and yours alone. Okay. Mind your business out here now more than ever.

[Jade]

Yeah.

[Kia]

Okay. Ask yourself before you get worked up. Yes. When you get feel your heart getting worked up, your nervous system getting all this dysregulated, you just ask yourself, is this my business? It might not be.

[Jade]

Why does this child walking on four legs bother you?

[Kia]

It might not be my business.

[Jade]

It's actually not. It's actually not at all.

[Kia]

And you also, in that moment when you realize that it might not be your business, you know what you should do? You should drink some water. Because that is your business. Your insides, your body, your health, your hydration. That's your business. Worry about that. That's very important. And you also want to make sure that you are finally moisturizing your skin. Because with the whole world falling apart, the very last thing you want to be is also ashy. That's not what you need. You don't want to be ashy out here. You want to have a moisturized body and a moisturized mind.

[Jade]

Yeah.

[Kia]

Okay. And then we will see y' all next week. Week right here on the kitchen table.

[Jade]

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[Kia]

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[Jade]

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[Kia]

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