Timbs on the Ground

Summary

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Gettin' Grown — “Timbs on the Ground”

Podcast: Gettin' Grown
Hosts: Keia & Jade (Loud Speakers Network)
Date: March 25, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively, heartfelt episode, Jade and Keia welcome spring and reflect on adulthood, intergenerational wisdom, and the evolving nature of Black womanhood and community. With their signature warmth and wit, they touch on self-growth, parenting, the importance of community spaces amid tough times, and the joys/pains of the everyday grind. The Kitchen Table Talk centers on raising grounded, personable kids (shout out to Noah), while later segments move into community activism, upcoming live events, and some classic “petty peeves.” In all, it's a celebration of resilience, joy, and keeping your metaphorical—and literal—Timbs steady on the ground.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Welcoming Spring & Black Woman Joy

[01:41-05:30]

• Jade opens with a Lauryn Hill verse and welcomes the Spring Equinox as her “new year,” signifying renewal and stepping into a fresh season with hope.
• Both hosts describe the feeling of seasonal depression lifting, expressing gratitude for survival, safety, and basic needs being met.
• Playful discussions about “signs” of coming into money (being carried everywhere like Mariah, getting hair done constantly “like Fantasia or Tamron Hall”).
• Reflection on “silver fox” hair and the embrace of aging:
  • Keia: “We are now in our solid black woman era, squarely.” [04:36]
  • “My hair’s essentially gray...doesn’t take much for me to get to this blonde!” [05:03]

2. Generational Reflections: Hair, Family, and Legacy

[05:17-06:59]

• Family anecdotes about going gray highlight how Black women claim both natural beauty and individual expression—whether through dye or embracing their “salt and pepper.”
• Grandmotherly influences celebrated for shaping style and attitude.
  • “One grandmother’s gonna do everything. The other is like...she dressed like Carole Baskin!” [07:05]

3. Parenting, Individuality, & Kids Growing Up

[07:11-25:43]

• Jade shares a moving moment when her daughter, Noah, asks for her own relationship with God, motivated by seeing her elders’ peaceful spirituality.
  • “I want to have my own relationship with God.” – Noah [07:39]
  • Keia: “That’s what it’s all about. It is about wanting to have a personal relationship with God.” [09:06]
• Both hosts express support for kids’ self-led spiritual journeys and discuss the importance of a safe space to explore beliefs.
• Noah's melodramatic early excitement for scripture is lovingly teased (“She sends scripture about silence to her group chat. They’re talking too much, so she says silence!”) [11:08]
• Discussion of balancing enthusiasm (“new convert” energy) with awareness that not everyone shares the same stage of spiritual awakening.
• Exploration of how witnessing a child’s self-discovery is a rare parenting joy—seeing kids as their own people.
  • “To watch Noah become Noah...I would be friends with my daughter if she wasn’t my daughter!” [16:10–19:02]
• Anecdotes on parenting approaches—giving kids room to float around, encouraging them to experience different cultural “tropes” and communities.

4. Black Friendship, Community, and Intergenerational Support

[21:09-27:44]

• The beauty and challenges of Black mother-daughter relationships:
  • Recounting their own mothers’ questions about identity, style, and sexuality—“Black mothers are so problematic. I try not to be the problematic Black mother.” [21:32]
• The joy of “the village”—a reminder about how chosen family and friend support are integral to raising Black children.
• Delighting in kids who want to hang out with “the aunties” and adults; redefining boundaries between adult and child spaces in community.
  • “I think it's dope that Ian wants to spend time with me... That’s a sign that we’re doing something right, not wrong.” [22:45]
• The ongoing evolution of Black women embracing their friendships and self-care—even when prior generations did not model this.
  • “I didn’t get to see my mom hang out...I want her to know it’s okay.” [25:43]

5. Community, Activism, and Answering Heavy Times

[28:54–39:37]

• Jade gives an impassioned update on ongoing humanitarian crises (Sudan, Gaza, Congo), emphasizing the refusal to look away or be silenced:
  • “We can’t stop paying attention... We do care about their humanity, and we are not going to stop talking about you all…” [29:51–31:50]
• Reflections on the “onslaught” of difficult news, the need for intentional, collective gathering (both digital and in-person) to process, heal, and strategize.
• Announcement: Upcoming live Gettin’ Grown events, centered not just on the hosts but on fostering genuine community support and resilience.
  • “We are curating experiences...to serve us all and speak to all the different aspects of our lives.” [38:29]

6. Entrepreneurship, New Projects, & Showing Up Creatively

[40:53–43:17]

• Jade excitedly shares details of her upcoming first solo dinner party (“Sunday on a Monday”), blending Black culinary tradition and intentional community.
  • “I really want to bring you all something very intentional and very lovely, and see how this pops off in New York so we can take this on elsewhere.” [41:06]
• Teasers about new Patreon features (nail cam, creative projects) and shout-outs to friends’ successes (e.g., Dustin’s stand-up show).
• “Stay in the know. Shout out to our brother Dustin for his very successful first Stand Up Live proud show!” [44:30]

7. Work, Academia, and Professional Integrity

[45:11–49:27]

• Keia shares experiences at an academic conference (NASPA) and tackles the notion that community-oriented, creative work “cheapens” professional labor.
  • “But, you know, I love that there are those of us who recognize the power of this platform for the kind of work that we all do.” [46:11]
• Jade’s unequivocal defense: “Whoever has ever suggested that to you, suck my dick, okay?...You are a tool to the community, you useless loaf.” [48:25]

8. Staying Hip & Embracing Generational Shift

[49:39–51:34]

• Playful admissions that even as they strive to stay “tapped in” with the youth, there’s a generational gap.
  • “I realize I’m not as tapped in as I think I am though…Auntie is outside.” [49:39; [49:45]]
• Glorilla concert invitations, conversations about new pop culture icons, and nostalgia for their own coming-of-age years.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Parenting & Identity:
  “You’re supposed to try on different things to figure out what you like.” – Keia [20:53]
• On Community:
  “I want her to love my friends but also know there are stages and levels… I didn’t get to see my mom hang out.” – Jade [25:33]
• On Political Leadership:
  “First of all, I don’t even understand why I’m still seeing Eric Adams’ face anywhere doing anything…” – Jade [64:08]
• Activism & Staying Loud:
  “I can't be bullied into not saying anything at all. You know what I'm saying?” – Jade [31:37]
• Podcast as Resistance:
  “People have suggested that creating this space with Jade and this sort of podcast work cheapens…my work work or my job job…but, you know, there are those who recognize the power of this platform.” – Keia [46:11]
• Defending Black Womanhood & Joy:
  “And whoever has ever suggested that to you, suck my dick, okay? Because…you are a tool to the community, you useless loaf.” – Jade [48:25]

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Petty Peeves & Self-Care

Self-Care [56:05–59:02]:

• Keia: “I'm going to luxuriate and I'm going to enjoy my mortgage and all of the blessings that the Lord has given me in my home, in my space, with my bestie and my friends and my family.” [57:13]
• Jade: “My self care is, I'm going to dance. I got my Timbs on the ground. I'm about to create a Tim remix—the boots on the ground and a dance!” [59:02]

Petty Peeves [60:25–69:33]:

• Keia’s peeve: People who aggressively recline airplane seats, thinking they're in a La-Z-Boy.
  • “This is as far as the seat goes, chief.” [61:46]
• Jade’s peeve: Mayor Eric Adams joking about fare evasion when raising subway prices amid city instability.
  • “Have the day you deserve, you brown egg with eyes.” [66:32]
• Both vent about politicians who complain about public backlash when stripping citizens' rights and services.

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Community & Looking Ahead

Upcoming:

• Live Gettin’ Grown events, designed as healing, intentional community spaces for information, support, and joy.
• Jade’s dinner party (“Sunday on a Monday,” April 14; tickets at jadeofalljades.com).
• Exclusive and creative community content via Patreon.

Onwards:

• The hosts wrap with practical reminders: stay hydrated (inside and out), mind your business, and keep yourself moisturized—“when the world is awful, it's not an excuse to be ashy!”

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Recap for New Listeners

This episode is quintessential Gettin’ Grown: real, funny, celebratory, and deeply rooted. Keia and Jade move seamlessly from pop-culture jokes to urgently caring for the diaspora—from talking about hair colors and Mariah Carey “not walking,” to strategizing Black communal joy amid the real, relentless struggle.

If you want to witness what it means to grow, heal, and care as Black women in community, with both humor and gravitas—“Timbs on the Ground” is the unfiltered, affirming dose you need.

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Listen to the next episode for more Black woman self-care, culture, and getting through adulthood—one Kitchen Table Talk at a time.

Transcript

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Yes.

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Who won't accept, who won't deception and huh. Instead of what is truth it seems we lose the game before we even start to play.

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Yes. Yes.

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Yeah. Who made these rules? We're so confused Easily led astray Turn up let me tell you that everything is every Everything, everything, everything Everything is everything yes. Change keys after winter, after winter must come Spring must come Spring Change has to come eventually Please Lord Jesus, hear our cries. Speaking of spring, welcome spring, everyone. Hey, Spring Equinox. Happy New Year. Give me all of everything. We did it. We did it. Joe. Y' all know this is my. This is my new year. This is when you know what I'm saying?

[B]

I mean, you can feel the seasonal depression just lifting off of our backs. We are we. The sun is shining. It's. The days are longer we are grateful. We are safe. We have what we need. You know, we're doing the best we can with what we got. Thank you, Mariah.

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Yes. Yeah.

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Yes.

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Queen of not walking.

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Being carried around by her elbows.

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I mean, it's a life, yo. I love that. That's what me and XD were talking about our episode last week. We said, you know, if we. We did. If we won the L lottery, there would be signs.

[B]

Signs.

[A]

And XD said I would stop walking.

[B]

Listen, and just have two strong and capable men carry me around by my elbows for the rest of my life. You know what else I would do, sis? You know, because I've always felt like this is very, you know, think about, like, Annie, right? Remember when Daddy Warbucks would, like, write a letter and he would take dictation. There would be someone following me around with an iPad. Just take this down.

[A]

You know my favorite.

[B]

I would be sending all email. Like, email J. Pray for niggas.

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Like, wait, why are we sisters? Because already right now, when thoughts come to me, if we're recording, I'll be like, xd take a letter.

[B]

That's. I mean, there would be signs. I also feel like I told Tania this and I got to put her on social as well. Like, remember when I had my pixie? I love pixie haircuts. So much fun.

[A]

And it's so good on you.

[B]

I feel like that. I love it. But you know, you have to sleep cute. You have to get your hair done, like, very frequently. But I said if I were to come into a mass amount of money, I would just have to need to come to my house every other day and do my hair. And I would have a pixie.

[A]

That would be another sign. Yeah, yeah, like a perm pixie.

[B]

Probably like a fantasia. Like, you know, Fantasia Tamron Hall.

[A]

Okay. Yes. Okay. We are now in our solid black woman era, squarely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, copy.

[B]

And I would still do. I would want it to be this color, but a pixie, absolutely.

[A]

First of all, I love. Because what's going to happen is as you get older, that color is just going to. Just going to transform into that color.

[B]

Just like mom just wants to turn into Rhonda before our very eyes, which.

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I love a silver fox. I love a silver fox.

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Yes.

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I think.

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I mean, that's why I tell people I'm a natural blonde, because my hair is essentially gray. So it doesn't take much for me to get to this blonde.

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You know, you're like, what's the thing? The naturalizer. The neutralizer. There we go. Before hair.

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People are like, how.

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How you do. How do you.

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Your hair that? I'm like, girl, please. I'm halfway there. Okay, so this, yeah. Just takes me to another place. But we're essentially salt and pepper. Heavy on the salt over here anyway, so.

[A]

No, that's very fair. I don't know which way I'm gonna go.

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Yeah.

[A]

My father is now silvering out. My grandfather had this beautiful Pepe Le Pew situation going.

[B]

Oh, he had a skunk.

[A]

And then it's a skunky kind of. But it's like a skunk. But it's. It's like a. I call it a tie dye skunk. It's all mixed in, but it's like. But he has both of them are very apparen print. Yeah.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

It's just all through. And then my mother hardly has any grit. My. Like, my mother hardly has any gray hair at all right now. So I don't know. Like, it's not. She doesn't even have, like, a streak. So that's. I don't know which way I'm gonna go.

[B]

Some of us. Some of us. Us. Me have. I've been dyeing my hair since I was, like, 21 because I was green.

[A]

I don't. And that's the thing. It's. It's not even about. There's nothing wrong with you because you're graying. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

It's like, that's just the way things.

[A]

Yeah.

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My grandma started graying at 17.

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She said, oh, wow.

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Yeah, she got her.

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So.

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Yeah, that's.

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That's in the jeans.

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Yeah. It was just like. And we all, like, all, like, my mom, all her sisters. Everyone is pretty much solid silver these days.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

[A]

So I know where I'm gonna think about my grandma. My grandma did not gray for a long time. Like, I don't even think my grandma's hair was gray when I was coming when I was growing up, now that I'm thinking about it.

[B]

And it was natural. She wasn't dying it.

[A]

No. She didn't dye it. No. My grandmother is the most. One grandmother is like, she's gonna do everything.

[B]

Yeah. The other one is like, the other grandmother.

[A]

She dressed like Carole Baskin. She don't give a.

[B]

So speaking of grandma, My grandma and I miss her, so. Birthday to my gram. Yes.

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Oh, yes.

[B]

Happy birthday to gr. Happy birthday to my gr.

[A]

I saw your post, I want to say, I don't know, a couple days after you posted it, but it was. I saw your post right after I sent you the text about Noah.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So let me tell you, I'm about to be that mother. She can be like, why would you tell my business? Yeah. So Noah woke up one day. Or should I say I woke up? Because she woke up before me. And she. And I'm in the kitchen doing breakfast and lunch, and so she's getting ready, and she stops and she goes, ma. And I said, mama is what she called. She said, I. I want to have my own relationship with God. And I was like, you know, it was like a Mariah Carey fan real quick. It was like, whoa.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Good morning. Yes. I was like, I absolutely love that very, very much. I was like. And I'm also curious to Know, like, what sparked this?

[B]

Right.

[A]

Somebody influenced this. Is this, like, what, what idea? Like, just talk to me. So she was like, you know, Nana and Carol. So Noah has essentially three grandmothers. She's got my mother, she's got, she's got my mother in law, and then she's got Tristan's aunt, so her great aunt, who is. They live in the house together. So she's very, very, very close with them. So she was like, Nana and Carol, you know, they watch church on Sunday and they read their Bible and they're so peaceful.

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Yeah.

[A]

And so I decide, I downloaded a Bible app on my phone and I decided I'm going to read two of them. Two of them before I. Before in the morning and then two of them before I go to sleep at night.

[B]

And I was like, and I love that I told you when you text us that I was so grateful because, you know, that's really what it's all about. It is about wanting to have a personal relationship with God. There's so much programming, there's so much cultural stuff. And you know, as with most things, there are good and bad. A lot of times the bad can subsume the good. Right. But I love that Noah sees that through their relationship with God, they have a sense of internal peace. And that's what she wants.

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Yes.

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I love that.

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That's what she, that's what she wants. And I. And nobody influenced this.

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Yes.

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That's my whole thing. I was telling Mary on her own because, you know, me and her heathen ass daddy just, you know, but we, we have a spiritual foundation and we're very. I mean, it is a heathen ass mother and father. It's one of those households. It's like your kid comes to you. Like, I downloaded a Bible on my phone. Me and her dad are like, what? That's crazy.

[B]

No. This is so cool though. But I love it.

[A]

We had this conversation. Me and Tristan had it. And also I was telling Mary, I was like, you know, I love that she came to this on her own. And I told her I want her to be able to explore whatever she wants to explore in spirituality in a safe. Yeah. Realm. Because we know that can go another direction with people who take advantage. But I will always support her as she goes on her discovery to figure out what works for her. Yeah. At her foundation. And so I just, I was like, girl, you really. So then, then it turns into a jade direction because. So this. So first it start. First it starts with, she's in her group chat before school.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they are going. They are going off in this group chat. Okay.

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I love it.

[A]

And she sends a scripture about silence.

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Listen.

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She's like, y' all are talking too much of the board. I was like, wait. She says the violence. Says silence is you need. She's in Psalms. She's in Psalms right now. So, yes. So we driving. So that's the first thing. So then on the way to school, as we're in the car. So she's like, yes. So this morning, I was reading 8 and 5, and I was like, yes. Of what? Tell me. She's like, oh, Psalm.

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Yes.

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I was like, yes, Psalms. So then we get a few minutes away, and somebody's driving like an idiot. I mean, they're doing something asinine. And I'm like, this is stupidity, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

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Outburst. Noah's like, you know, there's a scripture that talks about stupid people.

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She just. She's in it. Listen, it's the initial. It's the initial excitement.

[A]

Exact. And that's. We know this pattern. Right? It's people who get into the Bible and people or church get really excited. And therapy.

[B]

Yeah, they get real excited. You gotta let.

[A]

Really Anything. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

But I'm just. Oh, my God, this is fascinating. It's like, all right.

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Yes.

[B]

You know, the. When the girl. The new Converse. Me and Toy talk about this all the time. Like, the new Converse, it's like they got. They've been saved for three days, and they want to be like. And you remember, you'd be like, girl, calm down.

[A]

Okay, good.

[B]

Stop.

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Stop your j.

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Exactly. Relax yourself. Okay.

[A]

But I, I, I did tell her. I was like, listen, I just want you to understand your friends and the people around you. Yeah. May not be on the same journey as you or in the same place if it is a similar one. And I just want you to kind of resolve that and be thinking about that now that this is yours.

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Yeah.

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And we support this as yours.

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Yeah.

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And nobody else should have an influence on.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean? In the best way. Yes. Obviously. But, like, not in a influential, like, pushy way, for sure. And also, I don't want anybody to minimize her. So I'm like, you know, just be mindful when you're talking to your friends, they may not be where you are in wanting to explore things in the way that you do. And that is all right as well.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And so we're talking through it. It's a new space. It's a new space for me. I'm like, God damn. No, it's good.

[B]

It's good. And it's so good, and I love it. And I was telling Fran, like, I think it's good for all of us to be agile. Right. Because I think I, too, am coming, you know, as life grows, as you move, as you evolve, you know, we are supposed to grow and outgrow things. Right. And I told Fran, like, you know, a lot of what I've experienced in recent years has brought up some tensions and dissonance for me and some of my original programming. And I think I've been on a journey trying to find the right teachers and individuals who have the latitude to think about God and Christianity in a current context. Right.

[A]

Yes.

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And that's very important. That's very key. And I've been exploring. I was sharing, you know, some of the people that I've been watching and learning from. And it's cool. Like, I love being stretched in that way. Right. And I'm. What I'm also learning is that, you know, that was who Jesus was. That's, you know, that's God. God is like a current say. He's not. He's not deep in the canons of our history, and our foundation is good, but we also have to recognize that God is a moving God. Right. So we got to move.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? We got to move with him sometimes. And sometimes that what used to work for us doesn't work anymore. And that's okay.

[A]

That's all right.

[B]

So I think that's all right.

[A]

I think that's important.

[B]

Yeah, I think it was. It's a good sort of reminder to me, because we are all supposed to have that sort of fresh zeal and excitement that Noah has. Like, that's not something that we are supposed to lose. You're supposed to keep.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Onto that. And, you know, I was listening to something just last night. It was talking about how the Bible, spirituality, Christianity, God, as we sort of see him, has unsearchable riches, meaning that we're. You can read the same thing many, many times and always get something different from it, because that's the dynamic nature of it. And I love everything about that. So shout out to my niece. You know, she just. She just is such a joy. I love it. I was watching one of my. One of the YouTube creators that I have been watching recently did a video talking about the joys of motherhood, because she was saying, like, you know, the truth about being a parent is that there are things that are hard about it and difficult, but there are also Things that are, like, amazing and joyful. And she said sometimes the canon could lean too much on what's awful. And she talked about the joys of parenthood. And one of the things that she said, I love to. Watching my daughter become a person. Like, to actually become a person.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Noah's not my daughter, but I have known Noah all of her life. And to watch your niece. Right. She's my niece. Right. And so to watch Noah become Noah. Right. Like, she's not like. And all of that means there are pieces of you, there are pieces of Tristan. But, you know, Noah is going to be Noah. And I love to watch her become Noah and all.

[A]

Every iteration of her.

[B]

Yes. In every.

[A]

Yeah. Like she. The other. And. And I love how community such as yourself, such as Mary, such as Fury, such as Crystal, such as just everybody pours in in different ways because. And it has helped her, like, when she. She discovers what she likes. But then there are. There are people. Resources in those areas. So the other day, you know, me and Fury are catching up. He hits me and he's like, does Noah have a PS5? I was. He said, I have a pink one that I want to send to her that is just sitting here collecting dust. I was like, and their connection is. She discovered anime very early. Right. Because my sister in law's into anime. Tristan, he likes a little anime. My brother in law's into it and. And manga and all and all that. So. So Noah got into that and then. So that was their connection initially. So he would always send her anime dolls and, like, bobbleheads and like that. When Black Panther came, I cinder shuri. So then he calls about this PS5. And then we, you know, we just start talking about, you know, just things. And after we got off the phone, I. I go in the kitchen to clean up. And I just popped into her room. I was like, what you doing? Mama is sitting there with her headphones on at her computer. She's like, I'm writing Percy Jackson fan fiction. And she got like, yo. So I sent him a picture. I was like, look what. Look what she's doing right now. He was like, that girl is a star. I mean, and she goes to her dance teacher and she's like, hi, I'm ready to start learning on point. And so now she's getting ready to start delving into point and dance. And she's writing fan fiction of her favorite stuff and original things and her other teachers. I love it. Her teacher was like, you're an incredible. She's an Incredible writer. Kia. She's an incredible writer and she likes. She loves storytelling.

[B]

And then we got to get.

[A]

No, now she want to be spirit. No. It is team typing fast. And then she's. I'm like, yo, you are cool and I really like you, and I can't wait to see all of the other things that you. That you.

[B]

Yes. Become the creator. That. Her name is Tanika Boyd, and I love her. She does fashion beauty, and she's like, my channel is about fashion beauty and yapping because I yap. So she's like one of the. Like, she's a friend in my head. Like, I thought I turned her. Her videos on while I'm cleaning the house, and it's like we're on the phone. Very, very strange.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I love it. But she did a video about her daughter and she was like, you know, I can say this, but she was like, I would be friends with my daughter. Like, if my daughter wasn't my daughter, if she was my niece, if she was my cousin, dead ass. If she was just somebody that I came across. She was like, I love who my daughter is as a person, and I would hang out with you in every iteration of our life and connection. And I was like, true that.

[A]

Like.

[B]

Like, absolutely. I hope that my mom can say that about me. Like, you know, how dope is it to look at somebody and be like, wow, you are a dope individual. Not because you.

[A]

I love you.

[B]

Not because you are just. You came out of me, but I.

[A]

Love you because you're just human. You are.

[B]

You're an amazing person.

[A]

How cool. Yeah. Yeah, it's very cool. Even this morning, like, we were talking, like, we just chat and, you know, listen to our music and do the things. And so we're talking and she's. She was like, what. How were you. And when you were my age in school? And I was. She's like, you know, cuz I saw this girl skateboarding down the street and she was the epitome of your. Of your emo. She was not goth. She was emo.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she had a little coffee and. And I was like, look at her. I was like, it's so funny how. How different tropes travel.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she's like, what do you mean? So I was telling her, I was like, when I was in school, it was all kinds of kids like it. It's you and you've got all of those. I was like, I mean, I went to a predominantly black school, but you have black, gothy, emo kids too. And she was like, what were you. And I said, you know, I said, honestly, Cookie, I floated around a lot. I was like. I played sports. I was like. I was. You know, I was in my honors programs. I was in activities. I was like. So I kind of floated around. And she's like, so you were the Divergent One? And I was like, yes, neurally, My.

[B]

No, that's so. But I think that's the way it's supposed to be. You're supposed to try on. That's what it is about. Like, you're analytical. You're supposed to try on different things to figure out what you like. I can remember in middle school wearing flannel shirts and not wearing earrings and my mother being in breakdown about it. Like, oh, my God. And I was just like, girl, I just don't care.

[A]

Like, donna every other day, jade, are you a lesbian? I was like, if I was up. What you want to do about it?

[B]

Actually, that. But she would just be like, in distress. Like, who are these, sister.

[A]

Every other day, like, who is this? Between rap music and basketball and my clothes, my. Jade, are you in my fittings? Are you a lesbian?

[B]

I had. I had a daughter and a son. I don't know who these two little boys are in my house. And I'd be like, girl, relax.

[A]

Black mothers are so problematic. They. So problematic.

[B]

Relax yourself.

[A]

I've tried not to be the problematic black mother.

[B]

No. But that's. I can see where it's at.

[A]

It comes up, though.

[B]

Yes. Because I was saying, even with. With. With Toya and her son in, like, Ian is a grown man. But I was like, toya. Because, okay, Toya's coming this weekend to visit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And when we were planning the trip, like, we all. And it's nothing. First of all, I'll be on FaceTime with Toya, and it's. It. Ian will call, and instead of Toya hanging up with me, she'll just add in to our FaceTime. So it's nothing. Like, you got to talk to Ian every day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And she's like, ian, I'm going to see Auntie Takia. Blah, blah, blah. And Ian is like, bet I'm coming. Like, me and Joanne, we popping out. Blah, blah, blah. And Toy was like, no, Takia is not your friend. I'm just like, you know what? It's fine. You know, I said, ian is my nephew. Whatever. And I was like, toy is actually kind of dope. I said, think about it. We did not want to hang out with Jean and Rhonda when we Was.

[A]

Like, hello, Talk about it. Hang out.

[B]

We did not want to hang out. Like, we did not want to just hop in the. In on a road trip and be like, we coming to kick it. I said, I think it's dope that Ian want to spend time with me. Like, let him come on. Like, he got to know that I'm not going to the club. But if he want to come in here and sit down, he's more than welcome. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[A]

And he can go to the club.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, it's no problem.

[B]

But I love that he loves to hang out with us. Like, there'll be times when we be on the phone and. And toy would be like, you can hang up now. He'd be like, actually, I'm good. Like, and he'll just sit. Yeah, we talk and laugh. And I think that that's dope. I think that's a. A sign that, you know, we're doing something right, not wrong. Like the fact that these kids.

[A]

No.

[B]

Absolutely love to kick it, because I think that's what's up.

[A]

I told Noah yesterday because Tristan went to Vegas for a bachelor weekend. So I told her, you know, so I had, you know, single. A single mom who works two jobs. So I. I was like, all right, I'm stop. Who loves this little nigga and never stops? So I was like, I'm doing everything, Cookie. I'm doing drop off as usual plus pickup. I' ma take you to dance. I said, after dance, we're going to eat with auntie Crystal and auntie friend.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she was like, we're going auntie friends here.

[B]

She's like, okay.

[A]

And we go eat. And Auntie Crystal picked this place that was fanciful. And what did she sit up Here, I'll have the lamb, rigatoni, and the octopus.

[B]

Because, like, Noah has been having dinner with us all her life.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

When we went to fish, we went to fish.

[A]

Cheese. No.

[B]

It's like, I will have to go back. We have oat milk. Yes. I'm just like, okay, all right.

[A]

I will have my own chicken wings, please. And the crab curry. I'm like, can you stop ordering like this?

[B]

And I'd also like the crab fried rice. Thank you.

[A]

Crystal kept telling her last night, she was like, girl, are you give me your debit card. That's what I'm saying. She was like.

[B]

She's like, no. I'd be like, run it up, Run it up. Yeah, I'll take one of everything. I'll take one of them.

[A]

Thank you so much.

[B]

We all be like.

[A]

Because I like to taste, I like to nosh, I like to graze.

[B]

Can we. Can we box some things up? Yes.

[A]

I'm just like, oh, it's a good time.

[B]

Noah is in her. Her mid-30s with the rest of us. And I love it.

[A]

For me, she really is. She is. She's like, girl, you're turning 40 this year. Me too. What are we doing?

[B]

No, but my mom used to send me away. It would be like, girl, go and do something. I'm talking to your aunties. And it'd be like, no, girl, I want to sit over here with you, period.

[A]

And that's. I try to do the mix where I'm like, you know, it was one week where I think. I think I was at. We were doing Mary's birthday, and then it was another day where I was supposed to go eat with Antoinette and Crystal. So I took Noah with me to eat with Antoinette and Crystal. And then, you know, I was like, all right. She's like, can I come to the birthday? And I was like, I love that you love my friends, but no, because this is adult time.

[B]

This is not for you.

[A]

And we mix. This is mixing up, because I want her, yes. To see how our community engages and, like, be a part of it and then also understand their stages and levels.

[B]

I didn't get to see my mom hang out. My mom didn't hang out. She didn't have girlfriends that she would go kick it with. And I hate that for her. And I feel like that's one of the things that I'm a muscle that I'm trying to build. I'm letting her know that it's okay to have that, because I never saw that with her growing up. And so now when I tell her that we going on vacation, she'd be like, again. I be like, yes, girl, and you should have gone as well.

[A]

Yo, I told you. My mom was like, what does Tristan think about all these vacations? I was like, that. I don't care what he cares. I don't actually mean that. But I was like, he's actually very supportive of my trips, Ma. Like, like, this is my time going.

[B]

Out, and there'll be no husbands.

[A]

No. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

[B]

No, not at all. Actually, when we went out for my birthday and she. I thought. She was like, and Joseph didn't come. I said, no, Joseph is my brother, but I will. You know, we will do something with him on his birthday. On my birthday. But you know, I had a dinner with the Goyles on, you know, it was just the girls. It was the girls. It was not.

[A]

My mom is like, you do a lot with your. With your lady friends. I was like, I do you remember we used to get drunk with our neighbor? And that's how I realized you can't drink white wine. It's like that, but on a hundred, I hope.

[B]

Yeah. I said, listen, my mama, didn't I. And I hated for her.

[A]

And now.

[B]

And now I'm trying to tell her to go out and do things like, you know, like, well, now my mom.

[A]

Is like, we should go to the Beyonce concert together. I was like, who's gonna pay for that? Get out of here. I'm going with my.

[B]

And I'll be, hey, we can turn the table. I'd be like, you got Beyonce money? Because right, you got.

[A]

You got Beyonce money?

[B]

Do you have Beyonce money?

[A]

Oh, okay. Our sister's a full blown venture capitalist.

[B]

So back with that. And I'm over there. My mom was like. Because I would like. And I was like, girl, you are walking on your presence for the next year. Okay, I. I did the hardwood floors down to the house. You better not ask me for nothing else. Okay?

[A]

Nothing else. Nothing else. So this is fun. I'm loving this iteration. I'm loving where we are. And, you know, I'm. I'm excited to see her continue to develop. Like, I, I have so many feelings and emotions that, that, that flip flop as I'm watching it. But I. The main one is like, joy and gratitude for just who she is as a human. Get more than you expect with the $5 meal deal part of new McValue. 5 gets you a McDouble or McChicken and a small fry and a small drink and a four piece McNuggets. Woo. New McValue at McDonald's. Prices of participation may vary.

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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In the Congo, etc, and as of right now, we're in the last week of Ramadan, which is an observance, an observance focused on giving of all things while their lives are continuing to be taken away. The ceasefire has been. Ceasefire, quote unquote, has been halted and they've already killed over 500 Palestinians in a couple of days and over a hundred kids. Blocked all medical aid, blocked all food aid during Ramadan, blocked the, the entry to Egypt, to the border, I mean, the border to Egypt, and are dropping leaflets in Gaza basically telling them, if we wipe you all out, nobody's going to care. And, you know, these are the one, you know, the leaflets are the quote, unquote, warning to go. But then when you're blocking aid and you're blocking entryways and you're blocking ways to safety and you're taking just every option away from humans, it's. It's an indis. It's indescribable to watch, honestly. And I know I've been saying that for the past almost two years now, but, you know, we. We can't stop paying attention to what's happening because those things are not true. We do care what happens to them. We do care about their humanity. And we are not going to stop talking about you all, and we're not going to stop praying and we're not going to stop supporting in any way that we can, even if it's to bring awareness. I can't be bullied into not saying anything at all. You know what I'm saying? I have to fly in a couple of days. I. And I'm like, you know what? Like, I haven't said anything wrong. I've said I care about humans and this is not okay. And I have to, I have to take whatever comes with that. In Sudan, the. There's been a UN report on the treatment of detainees from both the RSF and the SAF or saf. There is a comprehensive breakdown on Sarah's page. BS on blast, because obviously I'm not the proper vessel to bring, you know, bring you all this information in a. In a detail, by detailed way, but I do please admonish you to go and check that out and see what's going on in the ground in Sudan as well. We just have to pay attention to our direct community and our larger community. There's so many of us who actually care, who are actually still tapped into our humanity and don't want to see this happen. So I just wanted to make sure that that was said during this episode, because things are just not great right now when we bring it right on back home, you know, and Kia can speak more to this in a. In a better way. You see all that's being lost federally. People are losing their jobs left and right. Hiring is being halted. We've got the. The looming threat, quote, unquote threat of segregation. Like, somebody is running down your Aunt Marsha's tuna ambrosia at. At whatever diner in the middle of Milwaukee. Like, get out of here. So, you know, we've got that and then the Department of Education. So, you know, community here is more important than ever. And, you know, Key and I are ready to figure out what that is supposed to look like. And so we're teasing to you all.

[B]

Yeah, man.

[A]

Live shows and experiences that are happening in the near future. So please stay tuned. We're gonna find it's not just for you all to just come look at us, sit on the stage, but also for us to really show up as community.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, like, see how we can be tools and assets to one another in such perilous times. So we're excited. We're excited about that. But I don't know if there's anything you want to share or talk about, sis, but. But please do.

[B]

There's just. I mean. I mean, I think I was talking to Jade as we were preparing to record the rapid onslaught of information and not having adequate spaces to process both sort of intellectually, but also emotionally. Like, there's just. We're getting. So much is being thrown at us all the time now. The only way that we can navigate this is if we come together, you know, as I say all the time now. Shout out to friends at the show. Brittney Cooper. Knowledge is generated in community when people come together to process information in community and leverage different kinds of expertise and perspective to really make sure that we're processing and comprehending and contextualizing all the information that we receive in ways that help to move us forward in whatever ways that look like. And so I am excited about creating spaces. And, you know, even if we look historically, a lot of times, our community was sustained through these spaces where we got to come together and break bread and talk and process and work through these things aloud you know, I think during COVID and you know, and when we can, and when it is safe and permissible and expedient for us to do so digitally, we do that digitally. But some of us now, the time is calling for us to come back together and to literally gather around our card tables and really sit in share space, space and break bread. And what we are learning is that is healing. It is helpful. And so it is our hope that we can cultivate these in person experience to be healing spaces where we can process, share and process information, but also, you know, partake in joy and, and just have a good quality fellowship and fun because that is what we deserve as well. And so we are being very careful and curating experiences that will do that. And so don't expect it to sort of function in ways that prior getting grown, live experiences have. And we are grateful for those beginnings and we love those times.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

We are absolutely moving in a direction where we can, you know, you know, curate experience for ourselves and for our community that serve us all and speak to all the different aspects of our lives and, and what we're experiencing right now individually as a, as a collective. And so I'm excited.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And you know, it's looking forward to it because as we are negotiating workspaces and other spaces that are hard and heavy and, you know, may not always see and recognize us in our authenticity, we need to be intentional about creating those spaces where we can have, you know, these experiences. And so I'm excited about what we're putting together. We, we are working. We have an awesome team of people working with us, helping us to make this dope. And so more. We're, we're excited about what. And we're excited to present that to you guys to bring more to you.

[A]

With information in the very near future. Not just. We're not speaking broadly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, and with that being said also, please keep in mind, I, I want this to be on the record. You know what I'm saying? I know y' all like to listen. That's what you're doing right now. You're bullying people, talking about, you're checking their behind the scenes and all this. That and the third, I want to be very clear. We are creating these spaces to continue to sustain ourselves and make sure we're gonna be okay. We're not interested in impeding on nobody else's space, disrupting your. None of your hateful. That's not our goal. Our goal is to sustain, sustain ourselves. That's what our objective is. And that's what we're going to continue to do. And there's nothing wrong with that. So let's be very clear. I want that to be very clear because stuff likes to be misconstrued and, and also the spirit of community and coming together. I'm gonna be real transparent with y'. All. Your girl's been big nervous just because it's, you know, it's just a new, newish space in a different way. I am bringing you my first solo dinner party. Very excited.

[B]

Do we have a day?

[A]

Excited would be yes. April 14th. So it is in three weeks. The tickets are absolutely on sale right this moment. So yeah, you can go to my Instagram and go to the link in the bio. You can go to jade of all jades.com just straight out the gate. It is four courses. It is a gumbo dinner with as, as the main, as the main star, but it is four courses. It is hosted at a black owned restaurant, but I will be curating the menu and I really want to bring you all something very intentional and very lovely and, and you know, see how this pops off here in New York so that we can take this thing on elsewhere. So April 14th here in New York. The address will be sent after the purchase of tickets. It is a Monday. It's called Sunday on a Monday because you know what I'm saying. I'm working with a black owned business who was open on a Sunday. So I was like, all right, we pivot. So Sunday on a Monday, emphasizing the importance and the traditions of Sunday dinner, but you know, just with a little twist. And I hope those who can make it out will make it out. It will be at 7:30 in time for you to get off work and get yourself settled. It will only go to about 9:30, so you'll leave full. You'll get home in time to take a shower and get a good night's sleep before you have to do whatever you have to do the next day. I'm excited. I'm trying to pop out. I would absolutely love that. I know you're in heavy travel season, so I also understand. I, you know, my being in the building is always my favorite thing, so I'm gonna try to make that, try.

[B]

To make that shake.

[A]

I know we are in, you know, interesting times right now, but those who are able to come out and, and enjoy, I'm grateful for your support ahead of time and I'm excited to convene with you all and to feed you. So that, that, that link is also in the Description box here. Wherever you're listening, you can go. Like I said, you can go to Jade of all jades. Dot com. It's. It's everywhere.

[B]

Sister.

[A]

Yes, we have gotten some requests.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So I think we need to do this, you know, we have to do this together. Yeah. At least once a month or whenever we go for our appointments. But a nail cam has been requested, you know, because they just see them in the wave. So I think let's do a 1, 2, 3 and put our nails in the camera. You ready?

[B]

Oh.

[A]

1, 2, 3.

[B]

Now. Oh.

[A]

Oh, wait, what happened? Oh, wait. Where the hell did you go? Okay, where'd she go? Where'd she go again? Where?

[B]

Okay. So weird. Okay, hold on.

[A]

Disappearing from the K and I. Okay, there you go.

[B]

That was strange. There you go. Come back, come back. Okay. Can you.

[A]

No, you're there. You're there. Yes, I can see it and it's beautiful. It's giving me boomerang Marcus's house. And there you go. Nails. Nails. Okay. So Nell came on the Patreon, if you know, for those who have been asking, I also have something I'm going to be bringing you all to Patreon. So I'm not going to say exactly what it is and no, it's. That's not food related. I am bringing food related things too. But I, I have figured out how I would like to show up in our community. So stay tuned for that coming too as well. I think it's going to be a lovely community activity for us. So yeah, stay in the know. Shout out to our brother Dustin.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

For his very successful first Stand Up Live proud show. Oh, he did such an incredible job. Dustin made me laugh. Was the most appropriate title for the event. And what our brother got up there and when I floated his set, you know what I'm saying? Effortlessly super proud. And I was really happy to be in the building to witness that. It's a long time coming.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I'm trying to think so clearly. You all can tell this is just a catch. No, we're having a blast because we.

[B]

Just need to traveling all week. I was at the national conference. There's going to be a recap on Patreon recorded that and so we'll be posting that soon, uploading it. So you will, you'll, you'll see some insights from that conference. But I've been away from my home for several days now and you know, just I told Jay, dealing with all that is happening in the world, but particularly all that is happening within the Context of education. And those of us who are educators work in education. Our students approximate to sort of not only just teaching, but, like, research and just all. All of the different ways that colleges and universities as institutions contribute to society. All of that is sort of on fire in. In a very particular way. And we're gonna. I'm telling Jade now that I've been thinking a lot about sort of like, what it means for us to create space, to process all that is happening as it relates to that. But first of all, I want to say we got so much love at NASA. First of all, naspa. Yeah. All the girls at NASA were so gracious, so kind. Everyone came up to me and, you know, gave love and asked about you and said, how much? Yeah. So shout out to everyone that I saw and even some of the girls who I didn't see but saw me and hit me up on the socials. Thank you so much for all the ways that you see and celebrate Jade and I and this and this community. It really does my heart so much good. Because, you know, I said before, there have been others who have. Who have suggested that me, you know, creating this space with Jade and this sort of podcast work cheapens or suggests that I am not as serious about my work work or my job job, you know, and all that sort of foolishness. But. But, you know, I love that, you know, there are those of us who recognize the power of this platform for. Particularly for the kind of work that. That I do, that Jay does, that we all do. And so I'm grateful. And shout out to everyone who was at NASA and show and showed love, and you can see more about my trip and how I was getting ready for naspa. All that will be down to the Patreon.

[A]

So now this was in New Orleans.

[B]

It was in New Orleans.

[A]

I love it. Oh, I love it. New Orleans. When you said your work event turned into the club, I was like, fitting.

[B]

Didn't they lie to me? I mean, they lied to me. Join us for the such and such reception. And I get there and I'm like, this is the club. Ain't no reception happening in here.

[A]

You're like, you're backing your ass up, huh? When there was a book.

[B]

Listen, the girls were down to the bodycon, okay? The people came in their things. No, because you deserve both and, you know, duality, okay?

[A]

And why can't we and whoever has ever suggested that to you suck my dick, okay? Because. No, I mean, you know, dead ass, like, straight like that. Telling this is not cheap in your work in any kind of way. If anything, you are. Yeah, she does, because she's a tool to the community, you useless loaf. Yeah, she is. Why don't you figure out how to take all of that money that you've spent on your education and stop being a hating ass bitch and go and figure out how you can be useful to the community? Because we need it right now. So I'm calling you in, bitch, and not calling you out.

[B]

No, all the ways. There's so many more ways that we can translate the knowledge that we generate through our research into actual practice and, you know, community and, you know, disseminating all the great things that we're doing in our research and in our practice work to audiences and leveraging different medium to do that. And that's what getting grown is all about. And I am. I'm appreciative to the. To the girls that get it. They get it, and we get it.

[A]

Yeah, I y k. Y k. So thank you all so much. I speak young.

[B]

Of course you are. You are tapped into the youth. And I stand, you know, I try.

[A]

I try my best. I realize I'm not as tapped in as I think I am, though. Let's be. Let's just. Let's keep it real honest.

[B]

When I was down to the reception club this week, it was just like, oh, Auntie is outside. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who these people are? I don't know who these people are and what they're doing, but more power to me.

[A]

Crystal hit me and Fred and she was like, I got tickets to the Gloria Extra tickets to the Glorilla concert. You don't want to go. And I would have gone because, you know, Auntie supports Glorilla. I'm like, you know, I like Gloria. I want to see you win.

[B]

I'm here rooting for you, girl.

[A]

I was like, I have to prepare my links and things for my dinner party. And Fred was like, I am exhausted.

[B]

That's what it is.

[A]

We, we, not as. And then they're all showing me these. The new white girl, like the new Britney's and the new Christinas and the new Mandy Moore's and all of that kind of stuff. They showing me them Asante and. And Fred and Chris. They're introducing me to that. And I didn't know about. Except for Chappelle Ron because she's on Drag Race. And they keep. They said, that's not how you say her name, but I'm not interested in real. In realizing the real way, so.

[B]

And she was the one didn't she actually say something to those, those white girls that were rude to baby face. She was like, actually, you are. What?

[A]

You are actually being grossly disrespectful, right?

[B]

She was like, actually, are you dumb talking to baby face like that?

[A]

Do you know who that is?

[B]

No.

[A]

Or do you know who that is?

[B]

You stop.

[A]

You don't know what a whip. Y' all need to get familiar with the whip and the appeal of it, period. Period.

[B]

And don't do it later. I mean, do it right now.

[A]

Do it right this very second. Sis, I think we, I think we, I think we just like caught up and I say we self care and petty peeve our way on out of this thing. What do you think?

[B]

I'm with it. This is just a catch up. It's literally a catch.

[A]

Yeah, let's do it. You know, we have awesome guests. We've had awesome guests. Thank you to Dr. Wendy for last week.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

We hear you. We see you immensely. There will be multiple. We have already asked Dr. Wendy to join us several times in the future because, because there's so much to cover. So please know, like we said, this is not an exhaustive conversation. So thank you to Dr. Wendy. We got awesome guests booked and busy and ready to come up soon in the coming weeks. So key and I just wanted to spend a little time with each other and you know, just kind of shoot the a little bit. But let's, let's head into this. Yeah, I needed it too and I needed to keep it very light because.

[B]

Let'S do our.

[A]

Our self care and, and start rounding things out.

[B]

Yes, let's do it.

[A]

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[B]

And thank you to Brook Lynn for right. For giving me a little theme music. Okay. Thank you, Brooklyn. I receive it in self care this week. It's very simple. As I said, the world has been beating up on me a little bit. My black woman body has taken all that it can take from the world traveling. And my bestie is coming to visit me and we're just going to have some bestie time. And Tay is also in the building. So we will Cortez. We're all going to get together and have some. We're going to gather and have some community this weekend. I'm very grateful. I also. The cleaners have come. My house will be clean. It is going to be. I'm going into this weekend feeling like I'm going to get some rest. I'm going to sleep in my own bed with my own weighted blanket. It's going to be time. That's my self care this week. My self care is I'm going to luxuriate and I'm going to enjoy my mortgage and all of the, the wonderful blessings that the Lord has given me in my home, in my space, with my bestie and, and my friends and my family.

[A]

I love this. This is. That's a true self care.

[B]

It is.

[A]

That's a true self care.

[B]

Ian wanting.

[A]

Ian and Joanne wanting to pull up is just so awesome.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It's just so awesome.

[B]

They were straight like we popping out.

[A]

I love. So they're coming for sure. It's happening.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. Come on with it. I love that my self care has not happened yet. It's actually happening tonight as I record this episode. So, y', all, as we were sitting up here talking a couple seconds ago, I'm going out. Okay.

[B]

Period.

[A]

I'm going outside.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I, I, I, I'm gonna go get Noah. You know, we're gonna eat some dinner and like, you know, have our evening and then I'm gonna drop her to Nana and, and our, Our Good Friend show and sister to the. Oh, God. Get your words.

[B]

All right.

[A]

What's happening?

[B]

Take your time.

[A]

Do you smell toast? Our good friend and sister to the show, DJ Reborn, yeah. Is spinning tonight at Soul and Soul in the Horn. So Soul in the Horn is a party that happens here in New York. It has happened for years. Different locations has happened that. But it's, it's a staple with an awesome lineup of DJs. Where you can really go and just kind of let loose. And so we're gonna go support our sister Reborn. And you already know we with Reborn Heavy, check out all of her work. She's been touring all over the world with Lauryn Hill, Ms. Lauryn Hill and like, you know what I'm saying? Also viva la revolution. In her own way through her DJing and it's just awesome to witness. She's really. She's also an asset to the community and such an amazing human.

[B]

So I'm excited that you're gonna go outside and dance because you love to dance. It does feed your spirit.

[A]

And I don't do it often, you know, some ago I'm gonna do a little something.

[B]

When you see Jay, like, oh, getting.

[A]

It, you know, I'll do a little footwork, footwork, you know what I'm saying? A little bit. I get a little bit.

[B]

You got to get your boots on the ground.

[A]

I got my on the ground. I got my. Tim's on the ground. Tim's on the ground. I'm about to create a Tim remix. The boots on the ground and a dance. Everybody come out. Let's get sturdy, period. Yeah. So that's my self care. I'm. I'm going to dance like an hour Tims on the ground please. Yes. Do it right now before you forget about to.

[B]

I'm not too. I got my tims on the ground.

[A]

Tim's on the ground. Sitting on the ground. Well, those are our self cares and let's head on over to these petty peeves and close this out.

[B]

Let's do it.

[A]

And I want to be very responsible of the things I say to my sister because everybody know I can be real petty P E to the tty honey.

[B]

Okay? So every time I travel, you know, I come back with a petty pee because that's just, you know, the whole. I was, I don't know who I was thinking maybe who I was talking to yesterday, but I was like, you know, the worst part of traveling is having to share space with strangers for me.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like you can't like, you know what I'm saying? And I am all we've talked before about. You know, there are those of you who love to recline your seats and listen. Understand that that is your right and you pay for your ticket and you have the right to do that. But I feel like my petty peevish. For those of you who don't recognize that reclining your sleep like you're not going to get to lay down like you know, the seat Only goes, you go from here to here. Like, you don't get to go. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're not. So yesterday, and thankfully I was like, no one was sitting next to me, so I was just able to move. I was sitting in the window, but no one was seated in the aisle seat. So I was able to just move over because the man that was sitting before me, ahead of me, like, right in front of me, he reclined his seat. And then like, every five seconds, he would go like this. Like. Like he was trying to, like, trying to get the seat to recline back even further. And I was like, niece, this. This is as far as the seat goes, chief.

[A]

You keep your limitations.

[B]

Like, you know what I'm saying? It's not going no further than right here. I know you like to think that you in your bed, you're not. Listen, you are not in an actual recliner, okay? Your seat reclines. Literally. You literally get just about.

[A]

It's not your granddaddy chair.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? You get about 10 to 15 more degrees. Like, you don't get a full on. You're not gonna lay flat. That's not how this is set.

[A]

You are not watching a baseball game with your hungry man dinner and your paps beer. Like, you're not doing it, so chill out.

[B]

And so I'm working, right? I'm like, you know, I'm actually. My work day is concluded, so I'm actually typing and sending emails and doing things. And I'm like, whether you want to accept it or not, like, my little tray table is attached to your chair. So you commence it to, you know, jerk back every three minutes. Like, you interrupted my flow and I want to punch you in the back of your head. But thanks be to God, no one's sitting next to me. I could just move over and do you not know that when I moved over, he turned around, looked at me like, oh, what's wrong with you? And I really want looks like, oh, Lord, keep me from decking this man in his mouth. I pray. Because I wanted to just. I mean, I wanted to just like, what are you looking at?

[A]

Turn around. But yeah, that's my.

[B]

That's my only recline so far, people. It only goes, yeah, you go from here to here. You not gonna go like, no, you're not gonna be able. You're not laying down. It's not a lazy boy.

[A]

It's not as apostropedic either. Like, it's not exactly. It's none of that. So, like, relax. Your.

[B]

Relax. Like, just calm your nanny.

[A]

Calm your nanny. You know it's coming. Your nanny, bitch. Nobody has time for all of this on the plane, okay? We are in a silver box in the sky.

[B]

Like, it's tight quarters, like, and we're all trying, just trying to get to where we're going. Just ease up safely, like, relax. Calm down.

[A]

Oh, okay. Well, my petty peeve is not petty, but it. It is worth it to be mentioned. First of all, I don't even understand why I'm still seeing Eric Adams face anywhere doing anything. But Eric Adams was in Far Rockaway.

[B]

Boo.

[A]

Boo.

[B]

Tomato, tomato.

[A]

The end of the A train and fitting. You know where exactly. And he was up there talking to these people, laughing and joking about how as a teenager, he used to take the train to Far Rock to see a shorty. And, you know, he makes, you know, sick. He makes me sick. And he's laughing and then he really. It really. It really hit home because he says, yeah, I used to jump the turnstile, you know, because I couldn't afford to get on the train. And I'm like, so you're sitting up here cackling, discussing, joking, kidding about how you used to jump the turnstile to go see a shorty and Far Rock when people are getting killed and shot on your watch due to your orders. But it's funny when you were able to do it and now you all want to raise prices and install all kinds of crazy contraptions in the train instead of focusing on fires on the tracks, people being pushed on the tracks, people jumping on the tracks, investors worried.

[B]

About the wrong thing.

[A]

Glass doors. Y' all are worried about paying now. $3. Another issue to get to. To get on a train. This is A.

[B]

It's $3 run one way.

[A]

$3 now, sis. Three even.

[B]

Are you kidding? A single ride was like $1.

[A]

$1. $3. I remember when we were in. Since when that went to like 225.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

$2. All of $3 now. One ride, one way. So, you know, I just. I was so unbelievably irritated about the way that he was making such light of his experiences. When people's whole lives and livelihoods have been shifted and changed and continue to be shifted and changed because of what he's putting out there. But it was cool when you did it. Have the day you deserve, you brown egg with eyes.

[B]

So that's just like. That's just like. That's just like. I don't even want to utter his name. I don't even want to loogan. Yes, the loogie. Yes, yes, the main loogie. Who want to talk about how, you know, because people are vandalizing his little dealerships and saying hateful things, and he's losing money because people are divesting and all of that. Yeah, yeah, he's losing money. And so he did an interview this week to talk about how there's He. He never expected so much violence for the lift. From the lift. I said, because people are re. First of all, people are rebranding their cars. Have you seen the people who are putting, like, Honda and Mazda stickers on the back of those electric vehicles?

[A]

No.

[B]

Which, by the way, those. Those trucks are being recalled. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, they are. The doors are falling off.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

I told you. There's one every time Noah and I drive to school. School. And our ritual as we drive past it is boo.

[B]

Exactly. So that. That same car that everyone in America has a visceral reaction to, it's like, yeah, get it out.

[A]

You're having a great day. And then here comes a exact truck.

[B]

So he was talking about how since we are all expressing our disdain for his brand and who he is, how he feels like he's experiencing such violence. And I'm like, you know, it's crazy how the main person who is eradicating federal aid and programs that literally feed and clothe and keep safe individuals of this country is now upset because people are busting the windows out his little dealerships. He's upset about that. He want to talk about us being violent.

[A]

Wait, girl, you came out of your face and said, I'm about to make segregation. Okay? Exactly. And. And then you, in the same breath, you'll turn around and say, I don't understand why I'm getting all this.

[B]

You're being so violent. Oh, my God, you guys are being so violent.

[A]

And it's like, violent. It's very, very.

[B]

I know you lying like this. What I'm saying.

[A]

No, get out of here. Get. And all of them, honestly. And you know what's crazy is this is like. This is like going to the sub suburbs and a bunch of foolish white boys. Parents went out of town and they just lost their. And got to do whatever they wanted to do because you've got that. I'm. What do I want to call him? You got the mukin. The mucinex mucus. You know, who's always up there talking like. And he doesn't know anything. He doesn't know anything. That is a stupid sandwich and skin Right there, that one. And then you've got the other one who doesn't even go here with this big f moon cookie face.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you got the main loogie. This is just. This is just a band of bad. But this is why we're doing the things that we're doing here. Getting grown and it's working.

[B]

I think that's why they're upset, because it's actually having impact that they did not anticipate. And so to that we say a big old carry on.

[A]

So you decide to snatch thousands of people's jobs. And then you wonder why, like, what is. You decide to snatch thousand millions of people's livelihoods. Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, Social services, food for students at school, education, like bare necessities. And you wonder why people are upset. Why am I even giving this energy so.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

They're so angry. I'm doing what I said I wouldn't do.

[B]

It's gaslighting. We should. Yes. And we should. So just to. To. To those of us who are actually our. Our indignation is righteous. Our rage is righteous. We have a right. We at Salon so eloquently said we got a lot. And so. So, you know, feel your feels, people, and just do what you need to do and we gonna be all right. And thank you guys for kicking it with us and catching up with us as we keep our teams on the ground. This has been a healing space for me after a hard week. And so I hope that there are others who find respite in catching up at the kitchen table with Jade and Kia. We love you guys so, so much.

[A]

We do all.

[B]

Yeah, keep it where you got it. There's more to come this year. We're working really hard and we thank you for all the ways that you show up and support us. So take us houses.

[A]

Yes. Make sure that you are drinking your water, you know what I'm saying? Hydrating your whole self. You know, they're out here trying to poison us also with the air. So the best you can do is try to combat that with. And taking the proper amount of a.

[B]

Healthy moisture for yourself.

[A]

Right. You know what I'm saying? Plus, you know, my lips been extra dry.

[B]

It's just same. You saw me reapplying several times this.

[A]

Like, okay, this aquaphor is on my. I got it on my hip, so period. So I keep that thing on me. So keep it on.

[B]

Got to keep that thing on.

[A]

Gotta keep that thing going.

[B]

You.

[A]

That thing being aquaphor just in case you want to misconstrue my words. Okay. Also, make sure you are minding your and our business.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Because we're talking about lip bump. Because our. Our community is all we can focus on right now and making sure that we gonna be all right. Right? Right. So make sure you are minding your and our business. And lastly, lastly, you want to hydrate externally as well. Because when the world is awful, it's still not an excuse to. That's right, Ash.

[B]

Ashy. That's right.

[A]

It's just not. It's the last thing you want to be. Who? You want to feel bad and dry and itchy and be sad. No, you can't. You can't do all of that.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

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[B]

If it's cry.

[A]

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[B]

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