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Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
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A podcast about the design, development, and business of great software. Each week thoughtbot is joined by the people who build and nurture the products we love.
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614: AI Code Audits
2w ago00:48:56Tap to summarizeOur hosts Chad and Sami team up this week to discuss AI code bases and whether they can be built to be developer friendly and with best practices in mind. After a brief chat about the World Cup (and how it may affect the June thoughtbot event in London!) Sami dives into a recent code audit he did on a base that was built with AI using Spec Driven Development. Chad covers security concerns and why it’s important to have human oversight when generating codes. — You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel and Sami through his website. You can also connect with our duo via their LinkedIn pages - Chad - Sami. If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website. Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm This has been a thoughtbot podcast. Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn - Mastodon - YouTube - Bluesky © 2026 Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots PodcastSupport Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
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613: Preserving Companies and Design with Andy Budd
3w ago00:56:43Tap to summarizeChad talks with guest Andy Budd, Design Leadership Coach & Venture Partner at Seedcamp, as they look back over Andy’s time at Clearleft, the company he co-founded back in 2005. Andy discusses employee trust ownership, how it both benefits and protects your employees, and has the potential to keep your business going for generations to come rather than living and dying by the founders interest. Chad also announces that thoughtbot is moving into a Purpose Trust model. — Our guest for this episode has been Andy Budd. If you'd like to get in touch with Andy, or to keep up to date with his work, you can do so through BlueSky, LinkedIn, or through his website. If you are a Medium user, you can also follow Andy at The Design VC See Andy’s panels at Evolve at the Brighton Centre, 26th June. Your host for this episode has been Chad Pytel. You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel, or over on LinkedIn. If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website. Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm This has been a thoughtbot podcast. Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn - Mastodon - YouTube - Bluesky © 2026 thoughtbot, inc.Support Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
Transcribe →612: Do fish drink?
May 2800:46:48Tap to summarizeChad shares a recent pivot in ReadySetGo’s development, where they see the app entering a founder’s development and what they’re doing to ensure a wide set of features for all users. Our hosts also pick apart the impact of AI on developers, how valuable is speed when working with AI, is it still a good measure of success when coding, and Sami takes a moment to ask the all knowing ChadGPT about his excessive running and exercise regime. — If you’d like to meet some of our hosts in person, be sure to check the links below to secure your place at thoughtbot’s UK meet ups over the month of June. London Tech Leader Meetup - Tuesday June 23rd Brighton Tech Leader Meetup - Wednesday June 24th Brighton Ruby - Thursday June 25th Evolve - Friday June 26th You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel and Sami through his website. You can also connect with the trio via their LinkedIn pages - Chad - Will - Sami. If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website. Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm This has been a thoughtbot podcast. Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn - Mastodon - YouTube - Bluesky © 2026 thoughtbot, inc.Support Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
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611: Magic is the right word, with Brennan Dunn
May 1400:50:02Tap to summarizeChad talks with a returning guest from the early days of the show, Brennan Dunn, founder of RightMessage. Featuring nearly 600 episodes ago on episode 18 of Giant Robots, Brennan is back to talk about how things have changed for him since his first appearance in 2012. Brennan reflects on working as a contractor and growing to become a company of one, why the scaling size of a business doesn’t always equate to more productivity, and how he uses AI to keep operating costs down along with the minimal set up involved. — You can follow Brennan on LinkedIn to keep up to date with his work, or if you’re looking to improve the messaging of your business you can try out RightMessage for free right now. You can also take a quick step back in time and revisit Brennan’s original episode from 2012. Your host for this episode has been Chad Pytel. You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel, or over on LinkedIn. If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website. Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm This has been a thoughtbot podcast. Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn - Mastodon - YouTube - Bluesky © 2026 thoughtbot, inc.Support Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
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610: It’s Okay Not to Use AI
May 700:43:51Tap to summarizeSami swims against the tide of AI with Emma Barnes, CEO of Consonance, as they examine the more controversial idea of being anti-AI. Emma explains why her publishing business is anti-AI and the benefits of coding for yourself, how AI is having a negative impact on different aspects of our daily lives, why big corporations are hyping it up so much, and Sami asks what is it about AI that keeps drawing people in. — Our guest for this episode has been Emma Barnes, if you’d like to get in touch with Emma you can do so through LinkedIn, or by emailing her directly - emma@consonance.app If you’re interested in using Emma’s publishing services or wish to be a part of the team, check out her business Consonance, or check out her weekly live stream to stay up to date with the world of publishing. Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website or via LinkedIn. If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website. Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm This has been a thoughtbot podcast. Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn - Mastodon - YouTube - Bluesky © 2026 thoughtbot, inc.Support Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
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609: Pennylane is in my ears
Apr 3000:40:09Tap to summarizeSami talks with Quentin de Metz, Co-Founder and CTO of Pennylane, about the journey of building a startup into an established company. Quentin provides his unique perspective of what it’s like to be a founder with an engineering background, the rapid growth he experienced with Pennylane and the lessons that shape how he now runs the company, and their cautious approach to incorporating AI. — Our guest for this episode has been Quentin de Metz, who you can connect with via LinkedIn, or check out Pennylane’s website if you’re interested in using their services. Pennylane are also hiring and have a whole host of open positions at the moment, if you'd like to apply, head to their recruitment page for more information. Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website or via LinkedIn. If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website. Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm This has been a thoughtbot podcast. Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn - Mastodon - YouTube - Bluesky © 2026 thoughtbot, inc.Support Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
Transcribe →608: Project Updates with Will, Chad and Sami
Apr 1600:52:10Tap to summarizeOur hosts provide a peek behind the scenes as they discuss their work on recent thoughtbot projects. Chad covers the progress being made on thoughtbot’s new “Ready Set Go” app, the hurdles they’ve encountered so far in development, and the things it needs to achieve in order to compete in it’s field effectively. Will reflects on a week long project with a non-technical founder and examines how clients’ exceptions have shifted because of AI, and Sami shares a brief update on his crypto project. — You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel and Sami through his website. You can also connect with the trio via their LinkedIn pages - Chad - Will - Sami. If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website. Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm This has been a thoughtbot podcast. Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn - Mastodon - YouTube - Bluesky © 2026 thoughtbot, inc.Support Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
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607: Applying the Efficiency of Credit Cards to the Healthcare Industry with Raja Rajamannar
Apr 200:47:04Tap to summarizeChad talks with Raja Rajamannar about how he reimagined marketing and strategy at Mastercard. Raja explains how he connected the dots between credit cards and healthcare, convincing the board to take a risk on something new in the process, how Mastercard leverages AI with their clients and marketing to stay on top of their brand and competitors, as well as highlighting the mistakes big companies make when it comes to AI. — Stay up to date with Raja across social media on LinkedIn, X and Instagram. For more insight into Raja’s thoughts on marketing, check out his book, Quantum Marketing. Your host for this episode has been Chad Pytel. You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel, or over on LinkedIn. If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website. Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm This has been a thoughtbot podcast. Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn - Mastodon - YouTube - Bluesky © 2026 thoughtbot, inc.Support Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
Transcribe →606: AI layoffs are BS
Mar 2600:49:43Tap to summarizeChad, Sami and Will bring a growing issue to the forefront as they discuss whether AI really is to blame for recent industry layoffs. Our trio examine how AI is being used as a smokescreen for layoffs, how larger companies view AI and their increasing over reliance on it, and Sami provides a real world example of vibe coding to highlight the issues and unreliability of AI code. — You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel and Sami through his website. You can also connect with the trio via their LinkedIn pages - Chad - Will - Sami. If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website. Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm This has been a thoughtbot podcast. Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn - Mastodon - YouTube - Bluesky © 2026 thoughtbot, inc.Support Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
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605: AI: It doesn't have to be this way with Lord Chris Holmes
Mar 1900:43:26Tap to summarizeSami talks with Lord Chris Holmes, Peer of the UK House of Lords, about the increasing need for AI legislation in the UK. Lord Holmes discusses his efforts to pass his AI Regulation Bill, why it’s taking longer than expected, what we could expect to see happen if we continue to leave AI unchecked, and what differences we can expect to see in AI moving forward. — If you live in the UK and would like to discuss the regulation of AI with Lord Holmes, you can connect with him via LinkedIn. If you’d like to dive deeper into today’s episode why not read through Lord Holmes’ proposed plans for AI legislation - AI Regulation Bill - The need for AI Legislation - [AI Regulation Report](lordchrisholmes.com/ai-regulation-report/) Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website or via LinkedIn. If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website. Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm This has been a thoughtbot podcast. Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn - Mastodon - YouTube - Bluesky © 2026 thoughtbot, inc.Support Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
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