Giggling with Brenda Song, Kate Hudson, and Mindy Kaling

Summary

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Giggly Squad: Giggling with Brenda Song, Kate Hudson, and Mindy Kaling

Date: May 26, 2026
Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Special Guests: Kate Hudson, Mindy Kaling, Brenda Song
Event: Live Show at Netflix Is a Joke Festival

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Episode Overview

This playful and candid episode features Hannah and Paige hosting a live conversation with three comedy and TV powerhouses: Kate Hudson, Mindy Kaling, and Brenda Song. The discussion veers from fashion confessions and pop culture pet peeves to industry insights, cast chemistry, and personal advice for navigating both Hollywood and real life. Expect relentless ribbing, uproarious stories, body positivity, and behind-the-scenes details from the Netflix show "Running Point," plus memorable takes on everything from revenge to remembering lines under pressure.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Live Show Vibes and Fashion Drama

Timestamps: 03:44–06:23

• Hannah and Paige set the tone with a giggly recounting of outfit panics, windbreaker gate, and Paige lending her YSL windbreaker to Hannah for the event, leading to ongoing jokes about sweat and style intimidation with Kate Hudson soon to join.
• Notable Quote:
  • “She looks stunning. She looks gorgeous. I said, sweaty magoo, if you sweat in my YSL windbreaker, I will kill you.” — Unknown Female Host (05:24)

2. Introducing the Guests & Giggler-Coded Personality Game

Timestamps: 06:26–13:35

• Guests join the stage, greeted by gigglers—Kate struggles to sit in her dress, Brenda receives outfit validation, Mindy jokes about the hot LA audience.
• They play a slide-assisted "do you vibe with it?" game—opinions on ballet pink nails, cottage cheese (“I don’t fuck with cottage cheese in any form.” — Mindy Kaling, 10:22), chandeliers, Crocs, and hand shapes (with self-deprecating humor around “witch long fingers” and childlike hands).

3. Sports, Fantasy Football, and Rolling TVs

Timestamps: 14:09–17:01

• Brenda reveals she's banned from fantasy football for being hyper-competitive:
  • “Brenda, I already care too much about football, and I can’t have added stakes…We already have a rolling TV just for sports.” — Brenda Song (14:34–15:03)
• Discussing Sunday rituals: Kids’ screen time battles versus parents’ need to watch sports on a dedicated “rolling TV.”

4. Pop Culture, Body Positivity, and Torsos

Timestamps: 17:13–18:54

• Laughs about body proportions (“zero torso,” “long waisted, short legged”), with Mindy and Brenda sharing insecurities and group solidarity about looking taller when seated.

5. Rapid-Fire Life & Friendship Habits

Timestamps: 19:16–23:24

• FaceTime etiquette: Are you a “call back immediately” person or do you accept the universe’s signal to move on?
  • “It was God’s way of saying, you’re busy, you’re done.” — Mindy Kaling (19:32)
• Animal person or not: Brenda loves all animals now (thanks to her partner), Mindy semi-jokingly rails against animal germs in the home.

6. Giggly Squad Humor & Communication Styles

Timestamps: 22:34–24:46

• Voice notes:
  • Mindy and Kate both groan at friends sending excessively long voice messages (“Anything over two minutes? I’m not listening to it.” — Kate Hudson, 23:24).
• Bed rotting:
  • Mindy delights in the “excuse” of medical bed rest:
    • “It was heaven to just lay in bed, take all my Zooms. It’s the best.” — Mindy Kaling (25:00)

7. Petty Revenge and Emotional Growth

Timestamps: 25:22–26:30

• Brenda confesses her pettiness; Kate strives for forgiveness and peace:
  • “I believe that forgiveness is the only way to peace.” — Kate Hudson (25:53)

8. Sense of Humor: What Makes These Icons Laugh

Timestamps: 27:30–30:47

• The entire crew loves slapstick—people falling is universally hilarious.
  • Kate: “You could be bleeding and I’d be like, that’s hilarious.” (28:01)
• Fart jokes: Mixed opinions—Mindy and Brenda are desensitized by their kids but admit a “perfect fart joke” is still gold (“If it’s perfect, you can’t not laugh.” — Kate Hudson, 29:41).

9. About "Running Point" – Making the Show

Timestamps: 32:24–34:47

• Mindy outlines the genesis: Jeanie Buss wanted her story told, Mindy co-created it, and bringing Kate Hudson on elevated everything.
• Mindy: “There had been so many shows written about the Lakers, but never that mentioned her as anything but a side character…We developed the show. Kate wanted to be in it, which was, I mean, took it to the absolute next level.” (32:47–33:19)
• The writers and showrunner prioritized real female voices and experiences.

10. Cast Chemistry, Hollywood Parties & Shooting in LA

Timestamps: 34:47–49:19

• Kate and Mindy’s first proper meeting at Reese Witherspoon’s Christmas party (“There was a part of the evening that turned into Christmas carols around a grand piano…” — Mindy Kaling, 35:22).
• Authentic friendships formed on set.
• Kate praises the fun and flexibility of working in LA, and the show's unique cameo potential.

11. Female Power & Navigating Hollywood

Timestamps: 49:19–56:00

• Kate, Mindy, and Brenda share their experiences of being underestimated:
  • Kate: “I get a weird, like, hit off of when I can see when I’m pissing a guy off...when I know that I have a little bit of the upper hand and they fucking hate it, I’m like, I’m enjoying every second of this.” (49:51)
  • Mindy addresses public scrutiny and double standards: “When I fail, I fail, fail huge. And when my contemporaries fail, it’s like a quiet little whatever…if I do a show with women, it’s a guilty pleasure…” (51:33)
  • Brenda: Ethnic and gender bias—feeling seen for the first time on this show, learning to speak up and take risks.

12. Navigating New Opportunities & Creative Fear

Timestamps: 56:00–59:43

• Kate: Fear is essential to creativity—risk the fall, or “go get in accounting.”
• Mindy’s advice for showrunners: Build a team obsessed with your voice, not just in it for the gig.

13. Acting Advice, Embarrassing On-Set Moments, and Professionalism

Timestamps: 64:23–76:35

• Kate’s ability to memorize rapidly is both lauded and teased; Brenda offers a practical tip: study scripts right before bed for better retention (67:03).
• Hollywood don’ts: “Don’t get romantically involved with a co-star… My dad (Kurt Russell) said, ‘Enjoy it. Have a great time. Do not fuck your co-stars. That’s it.’” — Kate Hudson (72:04–73:50)
• Brenda’s “Suite Life” trauma: slipping on stage in slippers during the series finale.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mindy, on Crocs: “Women and children should be able to wear them... No men can wear them, I’m sorry.” (11:33)
• Brenda, on Fantasy Football Ban: “I already care too much about football, and so I can't have added stakes… I'm not allowed.” (14:34)
• Kate, On Kids & Body Proportions: “It goes, it goes, nipples, belly button...” — on her zero torso (17:30)
• Paige, on FaceTime Drops: “The universe doesn’t want this anymore.” (19:29)
• Brenda, on Advocacy: “This show has really been one of the few places where I truly feel seen, heard, taken care of, and where I truly feel like I have a voice.” (53:11)
• Kate Hudson’s Dad, on On-Set Romance: “Do not fuck your co-stars. That’s it.” (73:50)

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Segment Timestamps for Quick Reference

• Fashion & Live Show Chaos: 03:44–06:23
• Personality Game (Nails, Food, Crocs): 09:02–13:35
• Sports & TV Talk: 14:09–17:01
• Body Positivity: 17:13–18:54
• FaceTime & Friendships: 19:16–23:24
• Humor & Voice Notes: 27:30–30:47
• About the Show / Hollywood: 32:24–34:47, 49:19–56:00
• Advice for Women & Creatives: 56:00–59:43
• Acting Tips & Embarrassing Stories: 64:23–76:35

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Tone & Style

The episode is equal parts rowdy, warm, and insightful—a meeting ground of unfiltered candor, relentless giggles, and real emotional depth. The guests are quick to laugh at themselves, share wisdom, and validate each other’s vulnerabilities, while the hosts keep it playful and irreverent throughout.

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Recap Takeaway

This jam-packed episode blends comedic banter and genuine industry insight, offering advice for creatives, behind-the-scenes stories from "Running Point," and a reminder that the best revenge really is living well—unless you can also be just a little bit petty. If you love honest conversations, ensemble girl power, and tips for surviving Hollywood (and FaceTime calls), this episode is peak Giggly Squad.

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Transcript

[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Kate Hudson]

No.

[Paige]

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

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[Mindy Kaling]

Gary, fix your WI fi.

[Brenda Song]

Manifest that shit.

[Mindy Kaling]

We can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me.

[Lisa Rinna]

Hello, my Giggly Piggly Wigglies. I'm currently in Vegas about to present at the AMA Awards with the Queen, Lisa Rinna. I've never met her before. I know her daughter, but I've never met the queen. So hopefully I don't say anything weird or awkward, but we'll let you know next episode how that goes. We have a very special episode for you today. It took a lot of back and forth to get permission to post this, but we were able to get the footage from our interview with Kate Hudson, Mindy Kaling, and Brenda Song from our live show that we did. Now, this is not a normal Giggly squad live show. We didn't have guys on stage calling them trash. This was an interview we did at the Netflix as a joke festival. And we're just so happy that we can share it with everyone who wasn't able to make it that day. So I'm going to shut up and let you guys enjoy the live show.

[Paige]

Hollywood.

[Unknown Female Host]

Wait, guys, I forgot. I love Tor.

[Paige]

She loves Tor.

[Unknown Female Host]

I'm two beta blockers deep, so let's. She's.

[Paige]

She could bash her head through a wall. What is up, la?

[Unknown Female Host]

Okay, before we bring out our amazing. I just have to tell a really quick Hannah story because she's been torturing me all day.

[Paige]

I thought you were gonna say year.

[Brenda Song]

I was.

[Paige]

I honestly was.

[Unknown Female Host]

Okay, so Monday we're at my apartment, right? We're getting our nails done. We're having like a very cute best friend day. I say, hannah, what are you wearing Friday night to do our interview? She was like, oh, I wanna dress, like, really cool. I just wanna wear capris and like a windbreaker. And I was like, great. Where did you order the windbreaker from? And she said, fashion Nova. No shade, no hate.

[Paige]

No shade, no tea.

[Unknown Female Host]

I said, kate Hudson's gonna be on the stage. I need you to lock eyes and get it together. I'm a good friend. I go upstairs, I get my YSL windbreaker.

[Paige]

You fully devil wears Prada at it.

[Unknown Female Host]

I say, you can wear that Saturday night. A couple days goes by, we're in the airport, we're on our way to la. We had something in the morning. I said, hannah, what are you wearing to brunch tomorrow morning? She goes, a YSL windbreaker. She also has to record a podcast. I go, what are you wearing to the podcast? She goes, a YSL windbreaker. She's been wearing the same outfit all day. I literally want to kill myself. She looks stunning. She looks gorgeous. I said, sweaty magoo, if you sweat in my YSL windbreaker, I will kill you.

[Mindy Kaling]

No.

[Paige]

But I was like, I'm getting my money's worth.

[Kate Hudson]

And she.

[Paige]

She's like, I paid for it. No, I'm asleep in this. I'm not taking it off. You're never lending me anything again. You're never doing it. You guys. Also, we've never done a show like this before. It's going to give Barbara Walters realness.

[Kate Hudson]

What?

[Paige]

Man just woke up. What

[Unknown Female Host]

is your handler with you?

[Paige]

Yeah. I love the Wiltern.

[Kate Hudson]

It's so cute.

[Paige]

It's so, like. I was gonna say cute. That's not the right word.

[Unknown Female Host]

Sophisticated.

[Paige]

Sophisticated. So we have three superstars that we're interviewing. You guys know we don't interview. We've never asked a question and listened to the answer. This is gonna be so, so, so fun. I hope they remember that they're coming out, because they probably left. They could have left. They're like, what are they talking about on stage? So this is such an honor for us to be interviewing the women.

[Unknown Female Host]

Okay, PowerPoint's ready. Perfect. Downloaded.

[Paige]

That was. That was Mindy Kaling being like, I'm out. That was Mindy Zoomer. I want you guys to put your hands together. I want you to go fucking crazy for the cast of Running Point and creator of Running Point. Give it up for Kate Hudson, Mindy Kaling, Brenda Sykes. Go. Like what? Like what? Anyway. Oh, my gosh. Barbara Walters realness. Here we go.

[Kate Hudson]

I have to figure out a second. Sit in this dress.

[Brenda Song]

I'm just seeing your shoes for the first time. Those are incredible.

[Paige]

Wait, Paige, can you. Can you give a little review of the look?

[Unknown Female Host]

No. I'm obsessed with everything. This skirt is so good.

[Kate Hudson]

I don't know how to sit in it.

[Paige]

You're perfect.

[Brenda Song]

But it's fashion.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, right.

[Paige]

You can stand the whole time if you want.

[Kate Hudson]

I can.

[Unknown Female Host]

Brenda said she wore a very giggly squad coated outfit, and I feel like she nailed it.

[Mindy Kaling]

Can I just say we had to dress up because this fucking audience I was driving in, and it was just like little clicks of hot baddies.

[Unknown Female Host]

Just the hottest girls ever night out.

[Mindy Kaling]

Like, Koreatown just turned into Vegas. Like, everyone looks so.

[Unknown Female Host]

And they're like doctors and lawyers, and

[Mindy Kaling]

they just look like hot sluts.

[Paige]

We're so biased. But they're hottest, smartest, funniest people in la.

[Mindy Kaling]

I rolled down the window and took a Comfy boyfriends.

[Paige]

That stuff slid their way in. Get out of here right now. Sorry, we don't do that. This isn't a Gigi Squad show. This is in conversation with important people. We don't do that anymore. We're professionals. We've actually. This is the first day we're meeting these three, so we're a little starstruck right now, and we wanted to get to know you guys a little better with a PowerPoint.

[Kate Hudson]

You weren't lying.

[Mindy Kaling]

Oh, yeah.

[Paige]

You sent backstage.

[Kate Hudson]

She's like, we have a PowerPoint.

[Paige]

I'm like. She was like, we have a PowerPoint. Well, we actually can't remember what's gonna happen if we don't have our visuals, so it's. We're visual learners to how the sausage is made. But we're gonna ask you some important questions about, like, the state of our nation.

[Unknown Female Host]

Okay. Okay. So we're gonna show you different things, and you're gonna say if you like it, if you don't like it, and then we'll let you know if that's Paige or Hannah coded.

[Mindy Kaling]

Okay.

[Kate Hudson]

Okay.

[Paige]

This is how we're gonna really know who you are to your core.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

So excited.

[Paige]

There's no wrong answers.

[Unknown Female Host]

Ballet pink nails. It's kind of like you get the same. Same nail polish every single time.

[Brenda Song]

Yes. Not every time.

[Unknown Female Host]

Not every time, but, like, it's your go to.

[Brenda Song]

I love. It's easy for work. I do it for work.

[Unknown Female Host]

Okay.

[Kate Hudson]

Crazy nail.

[Mindy Kaling]

I. I love a crazy nail. In the ots. I did. And then I feel like we've all been shamed into doing neutral nails.

[Brenda Song]

Yeah, a little.

[Unknown Female Host]

It was the Kate Middleton effect.

[Mindy Kaling]

We. It's. You're not classy. I used to have, like, checkerboard nails when I was on the Mindy project, and.

[Paige]

And then now I know, like, Kesha's time, like, bring back glitter or like,

[Mindy Kaling]

the French manicure where half the nail was the white part.

[Paige]

All white.

[Mindy Kaling]

It's all white. And I know now. I know that that's lame.

[Kate Hudson]

I love a crazy nail.

[Mindy Kaling]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

Okay.

[Paige]

Okay. And we're going to tell you guys what you are at the end. So Paige is doing math in her head for the first time. Carrie. The one that was mean.

[Unknown Female Host]

That was really mean. Cottage cheese.

[Paige]

Let's start with Mindy and go down.

[Mindy Kaling]

I get the hype. I know that it's good to get protein this way. I don't fuck with cottage cheese in Any form. No. And I know you can make delicious pancakes and things. Like, you can blend it up, put in the freezer, put it in a smoothie. No, I'd put it in the movie.

[Unknown Female Host]

There's girls on TikTok that, like, make bread out of it.

[Brenda Song]

Your algorithm is so different than mine. I've tried. I'm Asian. Lactose intolerance. I can't. I've tried.

[Kate Hudson]

I love cottage shoes.

[Paige]

Also, by the way. I like to stand up during the shows. Paige won't move. Paige won't move the whole time.

[Brenda Song]

Girl after my own heart.

[Unknown Female Host]

Okay, chandeliers.

[Kate Hudson]

100,000%.

[Paige]

She loves a chandelier.

[Kate Hudson]

Love a good chandelier.

[Brenda Song]

Love a chandelier.

[Kate Hudson]

Okay, that's kind of a weird question.

[Mindy Kaling]

Crocs.

[Brenda Song]

Here's the thing. I have them for gardening. My partner said he would never wear Crocs, and now he wears them all the time, everywhere we go, and I regret it so much.

[Paige]

Wait, I'm still not past the gardening part.

[Brenda Song]

Yes, I love gardening.

[Unknown Female Host]

I'm a croc appropriate for gardening.

[Brenda Song]

And my kids love Crocs, but I personally do not will wear Crocs.

[Mindy Kaling]

I'll set them. I think women and children should be able to wear them.

[Kate Hudson]

But we don't.

[Unknown Female Host]

Like, save them.

[Mindy Kaling]

Save them first. I'm telling them when Ike Barinholtz wear wears Crocs to the writers room.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Mindy Kaling]

I'm like, you should care more about what I think of you sexually.

[Paige]

Like, no, it's because of the patriarchy.

[Unknown Female Host]

Wait, I need to say that to people more. Like, you should care more about what I think of you sexually.

[Mindy Kaling]

I love his wife. I love his wife. I love. No men can wear them. I'm sorry.

[Kate Hudson]

No, I think every single one of them should be melted. And just put it like, something else should be created. They're the worst shoes of all.

[Paige]

Wait. Costume for trouble. Tried it on, though.

[Kate Hudson]

I'm not gonna say I haven't worn

[Unknown Female Host]

them,

[Kate Hudson]

but I have not.

[Brenda Song]

I.

[Kate Hudson]

It's a hard no for me.

[Paige]

I love Crocs because they are comfy. However, if you ever walk in an airport with Crocs, you ever like, no.

[Brenda Song]

Everyone's like, never.

[Paige]

You know when you get stuck and you could, like, tear an acl.

[Unknown Female Host]

No, I don't go sport mode.

[Paige]

I just got boot ups.

[Kate Hudson]

Why would you wear Crocs when you have Birkenstock

[Brenda Song]

or Uggs?

[Paige]

That is so la of you. Like, you never hiked in a Birkenstock.

[Kate Hudson]

Okay, okay.

[Paige]

Now, this is not a body shame moment. This is about Body positivity and finger positivity. Do you have nubs or do you have. Which long fingers? Or do you have something in between?

[Unknown Female Host]

Okay, you didn't have to have witch.

[Brenda Song]

I have childlike hands. Childlike hands. I have, like, baby hands.

[Kate Hudson]

I have baby hands, too.

[Paige]

Well, you're Brenda.

[Unknown Female Host]

Look at that rock. Wow, that's nice. So you would classify yourself as having small. Like, small, long fingers.

[Mindy Kaling]

I have.

[Kate Hudson]

I don't know what I'm.

[Lisa Rinna]

What are.

[Brenda Song]

You have nice hands, though. You have long fingers.

[Kate Hudson]

They're like.

[Brenda Song]

Look at your peaky compared to mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Female Host]

You have long fingers.

[Brenda Song]

I told you. I have nose.

[Mindy Kaling]

I. I have.

[Brenda Song]

Oh, you have very long.

[Mindy Kaling]

I have long fingers, but I have, like, orangutan arms. Wait, and I'll tell you why I did this.

[Unknown Female Host]

Wait, so do I.

[Mindy Kaling]

We did this. Kate and I did this. This thing to promote Running Point where we. The Dracula song. Right. And so Kate was so cool, and she walked into frame and she did the first line, and I came in. My arms were singing, and I was like, my arms look so goddamn long. And then, like, immediately I read the comments where they're like, why. Why are her arms so long? They were. My knuckles were, like, dragging on the floor, and I thought I. I thought I looked really cool. But.

[Paige]

But Mindy, you could dunk a basketball pink.

[Mindy Kaling]

Yes. Okay, that's.

[Paige]

Believe me.

[Brenda Song]

Okay.

[Paige]

Fantasy played fantasy football.

[Brenda Song]

I'm not allowed.

[Paige]

Oh, you get too competitive.

[Brenda Song]

I'm not allowed.

[Unknown Female Host]

You've been banned.

[Paige]

Have you been banned? Me too. Me too.

[Brenda Song]

Not allowed.

[Paige]

Who. Who is what? Okay, that's. It's like a doorbell.

[Unknown Female Host]

I think it's your email.

[Paige]

I think it's. It's me. I'm like a boomer with a phone, and I don't know what's going on. So you were banned because what did you do?

[Brenda Song]

Brenda, I already care too much about football, and so I can't have added stakes. I have children. I have a life. It. It runs my whole life. It's like I will be just stat ridding all day. We already have our. A rolling TV just for sports. It's a problem. I'm not allowed. I'm actually rolling. Rolling. We have a. We have a rolling monitor just for sp. Sports.

[Paige]

Women in stem.

[Unknown Female Host]

Wait, like, in your house, and you roll it around to different rooms.

[Brenda Song]

Because also, like, when our kids. So we. We try to limit screens with our kids, so if they want to watch something, they have to share the big tv. And if they're sharing the big TV and a Game is on. Mama and papa roll up, roll out their tv. And the kids know that that TV is just for sports. Oh, my gosh. Is it on Sundays or. We watch the local game and then we have our Sunday ticket on the rolling tv.

[Unknown Female Host]

You run a tight ship.

[Kate Hudson]

I like.

[Brenda Song]

Yes, we do.

[Kate Hudson]

Do you fantasy football?

[Mindy Kaling]

No.

[Paige]

How dare you ask me that question?

[Mindy Kaling]

I'm so offended. No, I just. I don't have. I have no interest, and I don't know. What about you.

[Kate Hudson]

I have. Yeah, I have, but I get bored, like, halfway through the season, I'm like, I don't want to watch all the games. Yeah, well, no, I like my teams. And then I'm like, oh, God.

[Brenda Song]

Oh, I hate watch all the time. I hate watch games. I love it.

[Paige]

Do you have any picking strategy in the draft?

[Kate Hudson]

No, no.

[Paige]

You pick the tall ones, the cute ones. I'm not gonna watch early men play every week. I feel like I'm the bachelorette. I'm like you, you, you, and you.

[Kate Hudson]

But I did just start wanting to get into betting on. On golf. Oh, do you play? Because I play and I'm getting kind of obsessed with it, and I really want to be able. Yeah, good Zente. And I really want to be able to, like, you know, really understand golf. And the way you do that is you start betting.

[Paige]

I put on the Golf Channel when I. I need to hit REM sleep because they have such a calm whisper, you know?

[Brenda Song]

Know.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, it's like a war. It's like a heavy blanket.

[Paige]

Well, we've spoken about sports betting and how men are putting their homes up for sale to, like, see if LeBron's going to win a game or something. So we just wanted to raise awareness. Oh, That's crazy. This is a very inappropriate photo of me. I don't know how it got in there.

[Unknown Female Host]

Hannah put this in and she was in Sports Illustrated recently, and so we

[Hannah]

just wanted to, like, bring awareness.

[Mindy Kaling]

Yes.

[Paige]

Now I'm embarrassed. At first I thought it was funny. Now I'm embarrassed. But I get ashamed because I have a really long torso and Paige is all legs, no torso. How's your guys torsos?

[Mindy Kaling]

Zero torso.

[Paige]

Zero torso.

[Mindy Kaling]

Everything has to be, like, hemmed in.

[Brenda Song]

My.

[Mindy Kaling]

It goes, it goes, nipples, belly button,

[Paige]

your nipple hits your hip.

[Unknown Female Host]

I just need to say, Mindy has been so page coded this whole time.

[Mindy Kaling]

I know.

[Unknown Female Host]

I'm getting jealous.

[Mindy Kaling]

I'm a little page coated.

[Brenda Song]

Yeah, I'm. I'm long waisted, short legged.

[Mindy Kaling]

It's.

[Brenda Song]

I'm the exact opposite. It's literally Waist, feet.

[Mindy Kaling]

You look tall in a zoo.

[Brenda Song]

Yes, I'm taller than Kate right now, but if we stay stand. I'm not as tall as Kate right now, but if we stand up, I'm like two feet shorter.

[Paige]

When you sit, you get tall.

[Brenda Song]

I'm so tall right now. Yeah, we should do the whole. See, we should do the whole season just sitting down. I'm your height because I have to wear, like, these gigantic shoes. Yeah, I'm like on apple boxes all the time and in gigantic shoes, and I'm still not a solstice.

[Kate Hudson]

I'm also long torso.

[Brenda Song]

But you also have long legs.

[Paige]

Oh, so you're.

[Unknown Female Host]

You're just a mod.

[Mindy Kaling]

Like, I guess my proportions are perfect.

[Paige]

She's like, sorry, I don't understand this imperfection of body ratio.

[Mindy Kaling]

I guess I'm the platonic ideal of a woman. I don't know.

[Paige]

She was trying not to answer. She's like, someone else can come in.

[Brenda Song]

I don't know.

[Mindy Kaling]

Matthew McConaughey says I have the perfect figure. It's whatever. Can we. Can we just say we didn't get to say this. We are so honored to be here.

[Brenda Song]

Oh, my gosh, guys, thank you for having us.

[Paige]

We are such huge fans of each and every one of you in so many ways. Oh, everyone got serious. That got me nervous.

[Mindy Kaling]

Like, Linda, we did put you on.

[Paige]

I know London's here, but yeah. You guys, this is such an honor. And for the Gigglers to come and support all. This is just everything.

[Brenda Song]

Thank you.

[Paige]

Giggle.

[Kate Hudson]

The best word ever.

[Unknown Female Host]

No, it literally is. Okay, this one is when you're on FaceTime with your friend and something happens.

[Hannah]

Call drops.

[Unknown Female Host]

Are you calling them back or you've missed. The moment's over. You'll get them next time.

[Paige]

Yeah. You know when you're like, the universe doesn't want this anymore.

[Mindy Kaling]

An unnecessary wrap it up is to not. Yeah, we ain't got the time for that. It ended. It was God's way of saying, you're busy, you're done. On to the next thing.

[Paige]

She's so peach crazy.

[Brenda Song]

Oh, I'm the opposite. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry.

[Paige]

Something happened.

[Brenda Song]

Oh, my God. But I'm just calling my face. Something happened. It was following my service. I'm just calling to say goodbye. Love you.

[Unknown Female Host]

That's me. That is really nice.

[Kate Hudson]

I'm. I. I'm with Mindy.

[Paige]

I'm out.

[Brenda Song]

I'm like, oh, yeah, I know.

[Paige]

I'll be telling Kate.

[Brenda Song]

There are times I'm talking. I'm like, oh, Kate's gone forever. And I pulled her back, and it's, like, called. I'm like, oh, okay. I guess we were done.

[Mindy Kaling]

You could attack. You could see the. You know what you could do is send the text. Hey, I think the call dropped. We're good, right?

[Brenda Song]

Yeah.

[Unknown Female Host]

Like, just to make sure they're not mad at you.

[Paige]

You're done here. I'll be the most vulnerable mid sentence. Like, and then when my parents. And then it cuts off and Paige, never to be heard of again.

[Unknown Female Host]

And, like, we'll pick this back up next week.

[Paige]

Leave me for dead cats. Let me say, this is controversial. Think before you speak. I don't like Kate's face right now.

[Kate Hudson]

Well, do I have to? Is it, like, cats or dogs or just cats? Oh, I. I will snuggle any animal. Okay. I love cats.

[Brenda Song]

I love cats. I never had a cat until I started dating Mack. He's like a Manhattanite. So. So I always had dogs, but now we have three cats. I love all animals, though, so. We have so many animals.

[Mindy Kaling]

I am not an animal person.

[Paige]

I just want to say.

[Unknown Female Host]

No, this is my long lost sister.

[Paige]

This is so Paige. But also, I just want to say dogs are the patriarchy. Continue.

[Mindy Kaling]

I think. And this is bad. People love animals living in their home.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Mindy Kaling]

Rubbing their genitalia on their. On their pillows that they go to sleep on. Licking their faces. They love this. I don't know if this is, like, an Indian thing, but I think, like, germ wise, it's not. I love a cat attitude. You know, I love. Honestly, there's a lot to learn from cats about, you know, don't give too much. You know, just. I. But I. I'm not like, an animal in the house person. I want only human germs in my house.

[Paige]

That's Butter and Daphne. They're huge fans of all of you.

[Unknown Female Host]

Unfortunately, they do sleep in our beds, though.

[Paige]

Also, Butter has, like, looks like Cindy Crawford. She has a little birthmark, but no one talks about it. Everyone's just like, daphne's so pretty. And I'm like, butter's literally Cindy Crawford.

[Kate Hudson]

Is it Butter? Butter. The name's Butter. Oh, my God.

[Paige]

I'm really into food names.

[Kate Hudson]

Okay, well, I had two cats named Mac and Cheese. I had two.

[Unknown Female Host]

Oh, so you two love.

[Kate Hudson]

I had two.

[Mindy Kaling]

They.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, they were Persian cats. They were Mac and cheese.

[Hannah]

And they were so great names.

[Paige]

And I thought you were gonna talk about cats. I have to formally apologize to you because I was ahead of my time. Oh, voice notes.

[Unknown Female Host]

Sometimes you don't want it in writing.

[Kate Hudson]

You know?

[Unknown Female Host]

You're like, if I ever get subpoenaed, it's gonna be bad.

[Mindy Kaling]

Someone saves a voice note, it sends shivers down my spine. Fine. When someone saves a rant that you went on, you're like, why did you save that?

[Brenda Song]

Yeah.

[Paige]

For evidence.

[Mindy Kaling]

Yeah. Love a voice note.

[Paige]

Yes.

[Unknown Female Host]

Love a voice.

[Paige]

Especially because we're busy. We're walking around. We're like, I can't call.

[Brenda Song]

I've learned to love it. I used. It used to give me anxiety when I saw someone. I would just read the voice note like a crazy person and not listen to it.

[Kate Hudson]

I'm like, oh, my God.

[Brenda Song]

But now I understand, and I'm here for it. Except when Scotty MacArthur sends voice notes because they're.

[Kate Hudson]

They're like 30 minutes long.

[Paige]

Call them out by name. Call. Call them out.

[Brenda Song]

Scotty. He plays. He plays Ness. He literally sends the longest voice about nothing.

[Kate Hudson]

And you get to like, a minute. You get to like a minute 10, and you're like, I'm out.

[Brenda Song]

You know?

[Unknown Female Host]

You can speed them up now.

[Kate Hudson]

Well, I say, if I look at a voice note and there's a two, is it like, anything over two minutes? I'm. I'm not listening to it.

[Paige]

I kind of read it.

[Kate Hudson]

I kind of like the thing.

[Paige]

I read it.

[Mindy Kaling]

Scotty, like, play music a bit. Like, I got this song I want you guys to hear.

[Unknown Female Host]

Like, he'll play that diabolical song for you guys. That's crazy.

[Paige]

Does he have anyone in his life who could be honest with him?

[Kate Hudson]

No. That's the problem. Everybody is honest with him. Literally, everybody has told him, I'm so

[Paige]

sorry that a man's doing that to you guys.

[Unknown Female Host]

Bed rotting.

[Paige]

Huge fan.

[Unknown Female Host]

Like, huge fan fans. This is just staying in bed all day.

[Paige]

Okay. Do you wake up early?

[Kate Hudson]

Yes.

[Paige]

You're running or something?

[Kate Hudson]

You're like, yeah, but I'm also. I. I also. I can get into bed, and I can get into bed for a long time. I. But I would. I wouldn't say it's rotting.

[Paige]

Yeah, rotting is about.

[Kate Hudson]

And I get. I get the. I get it.

[Paige]

But, yeah, the kids.

[Kate Hudson]

I love being in bed.

[Brenda Song]

I love our beds.

[Paige]

Like, do you guys ever work horizontal? Like, do you do emails and, like, zoom?

[Brenda Song]

I. I do my emails at night, and then I schedule them to be sent out in the morning.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

I raise my kids from bed.

[Paige]

She goes. I have full fights with my whole family from the bed.

[Mindy Kaling]

I. I have three kids under age, so, like, bedrot. It would be my dream to do it. So the. I was on bed rest for my last baby, who's two, and the last six weeks. Weeks, I was confined to bed.

[Paige]

We're so jealous.

[Mindy Kaling]

I. It was heaven to just lay in bed, take all my zooms, and it's like, clinical. And it was like, I have a medical condition.

[Unknown Female Host]

Doctors.

[Mindy Kaling]

I have to look bad. Like zooming with bella bajaria from bed, wearing my sweatpants. And she just has to deal with it. It's. It's the best.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, it's the best.

[Paige]

We need to get a medical note.

[Unknown Female Host]

No, I really do.

[Paige]

Last one.

[Unknown Female Host]

Last one is.

[Paige]

How do you guys feel about revenge?

[Kate Hudson]

I'm a petty. I need a revenge.

[Brenda Song]

I'm a petty bitch. I'm a petty bitch.

[Mindy Kaling]

Yeah. Do you believe the best revenge is living well, or do you believe the best revenge is literal revenge?

[Paige]

Great question.

[Brenda Song]

No, I. I think it's living well. But also, if there's a chance to be petty, you know, I'll do it.

[Paige]

Revenge.

[Unknown Female Host]

Sometimes, like, you don't have to do it. The universe does it for you.

[Brenda Song]

I really believe in that and that I love in karma.

[Mindy Kaling]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

I'm gonna be so cheesy.

[Paige]

Please.

[Kate Hudson]

I believe that forgiveness is the only way to peace.

[Mindy Kaling]

Aww.

[Paige]

How dare you boo Kate Hudson.

[Brenda Song]

And now guys, she actually means it.

[Mindy Kaling]

She is.

[Kate Hudson]

Can you believe that?

[Paige]

We know, but that is beautiful, because when you're angry and you wish bad upon people, it comes around back to you.

[Kate Hudson]

Sometimes you're so fucked if revenge is your way.

[Unknown Female Host]

You just want to be friends with Kate Hudson. You're not being yourself,

[Mindy Kaling]

Kate.

[Paige]

You're so right. I've been saying that this whole time. But, like, you did work on yourself to get there. You object.

[Unknown Female Host]

She has time. She literally called me two weeks ago at 11pm I was like, and then I think this will happen. Oh, we.

[Paige]

Yeah, I have an Etsy witch. Really excited. Oh, okay.

[Unknown Female Host]

Before we go, we'll say what we think on.

[Paige]

Oh, okay. Let's decide. I mean, Mindy is Paige Koda. This is easy 100. Paige Cody.

[Unknown Female Host]

I think Brenda is smack dab in the middle.

[Paige]

She's Hannah's son. Paige Moon.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yes. And Kate is all Hannah.

[Mindy Kaling]

This is good representation.

[Paige]

Kate is like, she holds herself a little with more.

[Unknown Female Host]

Like, she has more class. Yeah, for sure.

[Paige]

There's like, a regalness that I'll never have, but cool.

[Unknown Female Host]

Like, Kate's never, like, shit in the

[Hannah]

middle of the street.

[Paige]

You know, that was a bridesmaid scene. Like, I never did that. I'm like, well, look, sometimes you don't know if it's a fart or not.

[Brenda Song]

Okay. Never over trust a fart.

[Paige]

See, that's her. Hannah coming out. Oh, wait. Which brings us to a perfect segue. We just want to get to know you guys a little more about your sense of humor. And you all are so iconic in the comedy space. Like, I don't mean I can't even. There's no words to it. So we just want to know this is too late because we've been trying to make you laugh, so we should have done this in the beginning. But we just want to know your sense of humor real quick.

[Unknown Female Host]

People falling.

[Brenda Song]

Yes. A thousand percent. Yes.

[Paige]

Does that get a laugh from you guys?

[Mindy Kaling]

Yes.

[Kate Hudson]

I'm the awful friend. You could be bleeding and I'd be like, that's hilarious.

[Paige]

You're like, here's

[Mindy Kaling]

a cousin of. This is when Kate walks into a wall, which is like every episode of the show. So falling. Falling out of frame, I think is my. Is even. Is the best version of falling.

[Brenda Song]

I think Kate was talking about real life. Like when I trip and fall, she's like, you'll be fine. It's hilarious.

[Paige]

Where she's a director, she's like, out of frame. Perfect. Fall into the mattress. Fart jokes. Like, Mindy, when you see a script, how often are you looking like, okay, I'm not highbrow.

[Mindy Kaling]

Okay, I'm not. But I. I think I like, you know, I've again, three children under eight. They think it's hilarious when you call

[Paige]

them a poopy head.

[Mindy Kaling]

And they're constantly doing it. So I think I've just had a lot of like, toots, we call them at our house. A lot of like toot comedy in. In my home we have like three books with toot in the text.

[Unknown Female Host]

You're so regal.

[Mindy Kaling]

She's so, you know, I am obsessed.

[Paige]

She's like, we call it tooting. I'm like, I love that because it's

[Mindy Kaling]

like cuz they have like, you have Asian grandparents, you know, like, we're not gonna say fart, but so I. To me, I'm not as into it. I think.

[Paige]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brenda Song]

I think same. I think I'm so desensitized because of my kids. They think it's so funny and I'm like, I'm tired of it.

[Paige]

Yeah. You're like, get a new bit.

[Brenda Song]

Stop trying to this one. Well, my kids are also trying to fart on me now. They think it's so funny when they fart on me. And I'm like, it's never gonna Be fun.

[Unknown Narrator]

No.

[Paige]

No.

[Kate Hudson]

I have a thousand brothers, which basically means I spent my entire life with them farting, thinking it was funny and it's disgusting.

[Brenda Song]

But.

[Kate Hudson]

But every once in a while, a perfect fart joke is really fucking funny. Like, if it's perfect, you can't not laugh.

[Unknown Female Host]

You know, Hannah loves a fart joke.

[Kate Hudson]

My brother has an insane sphincter muscle and his.

[Mindy Kaling]

Oliver.

[Kate Hudson]

Robert, if you listen to art. No, I'm serious. This is real. If you listen to our podcast, you'd hear this, because he farts a lot on my podcast, but he can control it. So he.

[Unknown Female Host]

He'll.

[Kate Hudson]

He does things where he'll walk in my room and go, do you hear that? And then all of a sudden, he'll fart and close the door. Like, it's creaking.

[Brenda Song]

Oh, my God.

[Kate Hudson]

And control.

[Paige]

So he's an artist.

[Mindy Kaling]

Has he.

[Kate Hudson]

It's. You've never seen anything like it?

[Unknown Female Host]

Wait, has he seen a doctor about it? Like, is that.

[Paige]

Are they.

[Unknown Female Host]

Like, you're an anomaly or that's, like, a thing?

[Kate Hudson]

Kind of.

[Paige]

He's kind of wild. Beethoven. Sorry, I'll stop. I hate puns.

[Kate Hudson]

I do hate puns, but Beethoven's pretty good, so.

[Paige]

This is so random, and I don't want to, like, raise awareness about a man, but I recently just started watching Nashville, and I had no idea. He's in it, right?

[Kate Hudson]

Yes, yes.

[Paige]

He's so good in it.

[Kate Hudson]

Nashville. How much?

[Paige]

How much did. We love that show?

[Kate Hudson]

And I never watched it.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Mindy Kaling]

Anyway, why are you starting Nashville now? I'm sorry. Like, didn't it come out in, like, 2008?

[Paige]

Allowed to go or something?

[Unknown Female Host]

She tried to make me start it.

[Brenda Song]

I was like.

[Unknown Female Host]

And I can't.

[Mindy Kaling]

Everything Hayden Paneter will ever do. I mean, it's a great show, but it feels random.

[Paige]

Good.

[Mindy Kaling]

Good.

[Paige]

It was, like, on TNT back in the day. I didn't even know how to get to tnt.

[Mindy Kaling]

You're like, I'm gonna watch Royal Pains after that. I love it. I'm just. I'm surprised how unbusy you are.

[Unknown Female Host]

We all were. Yeah.

[Paige]

She's so.

[Kate Hudson]

Paige.

[Brenda Song]

Yeah.

[Unknown Female Host]

She's disgusted by you. And that is us.

[Mindy Kaling]

No, I love it.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Unknown Female Host]

No, but you love it. That's what it is.

[Kate Hudson]

She's wearing a matching set.

[Unknown Female Host]

She's like, this is gross, but I need more.

[Paige]

I can't look away. But what makes us laugh? Running points. The reason we're here tonight. Real quick, can you just go around and tell us? I swear to God, I'll fight you.

[Mindy Kaling]

What are These texts.

[Kate Hudson]

What is that?

[Mindy Kaling]

What's happening?

[Paige]

So I'm like, my Tinder is going off or something. Can you guys just go around and say what you. How involved you are with Running Point? Are you in it?

[Unknown Female Host]

Were you there when they filmed it?

[Paige]

How are you? We're working on our interview.

[Mindy Kaling]

I've never seen Running Point. What is Running Point? So it's.

[Kate Hudson]

What is it about?

[Mindy Kaling]

So it's on Netflix. Yes, that's why we're here tonight. And we love Netflix. Thank you for having us and thank you for coming. We love you guys.

[Paige]

We love your work.

[Mindy Kaling]

I'm a co creator with our good friends Ike Barinholtz and David Stassen.

[Paige]

Love.

[Mindy Kaling]

Who are wonderful. Dave is the showrunner on the show. And Jeannie Buss, the wonderful Jeannie Buss, who is the president of the Lakers, several years ago approached me and said I'd love to do a show about what it's like to run the Lakers. There had been so many shows written about the Lakers, but never that mentioned her as anything but a side character in it. Which is again, typical of living in the patriarchy. I won't bore us with all this now, but she really wanted to do that. We developed the show. Kate wanted to be in it, which was, I mean, took it to the absolute next level. And. And because Kate was involved, we got these incredible other cast members and that's. But it started like pre pandemic. We were thinking about this. I had one child before this.

[Unknown Female Host]

At any point where you like, shoot, I don't know basketball or like, I happen to.

[Mindy Kaling]

And as you know, don't know anything. I'm very indifferent to most sports randomly growing up. My dad was a huge Celtics fan and grew up in Boston. So sorry, I know this is the reaction.

[Brenda Song]

What's the score of the game right now?

[Mindy Kaling]

Larry Bird. Look at you.

[Paige]

Dad loves Larry Bird.

[Unknown Female Host]

Larry Bird.

[Kate Hudson]

So we're connecting.

[Mindy Kaling]

We're connecting. Larry Bird. And so he. We. We. He grew up loving basketball. I think basketball is the best sport in the world. The most athleticism, the most entertaining. And the Lakers, I mean, love the Celtics. But it's like showbiz for a reason. Like show Showtime. Love it. And so, yeah, that's how. How it happened. And I can. Dave co wrote the pilot with me and now they're, you know, showrunners and actors on the show. Ike, it was on this season. He's super funny. And yeah, that's how I'm involved in the show.

[Kate Hudson]

She is the show.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yes.

[Paige]

This is our boss by the Way Incredible. Created like, 3,247 shows in the last decade. So shout out to Mindy for running the comedy industry.

[Unknown Female Host]

Truly.

[Kate Hudson]

And for me, I sat with Mindy. We had a margarita and fell in love.

[Unknown Female Host]

And you guys didn't know each other before?

[Kate Hudson]

We didn't really. We had met once before at Reese Witherspoon's Christmas party. We met at Reese's Christmas.

[Mindy Kaling]

I have a lot of a list. Celebrity friends.

[Unknown Female Host]

What is Reese Witherspoon's Christmas party like? Like, what does she serve? Food wise?

[Mindy Kaling]

There was a lot of, like, Southern food, right?

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, she's a. She's. Yeah, she's a. You know, she likes her. Her fried chicken. Oh, okay. Shrimp and grapes. No, she has Southern food.

[Mindy Kaling]

A lot of singers, like you said, there was a. There was a part of the evening that turned into Christmas carols around a grand piano.

[Brenda Song]

Wow.

[Mindy Kaling]

Which for me was, like, terrifying. My worst nightmare for me is like,

[Kate Hudson]

my favorite part of the night.

[Paige]

Yeah, she's on the piano. I know. Was there a fountain?

[Mindy Kaling]

A fountain?

[Paige]

I feel like there'd be a fountain.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, there was a fountain.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, there was a fountain, like, in her driveway.

[Paige]

Medium. Yeah, Somewhere there was a fountain.

[Mindy Kaling]

That's where we. We met there. But we had a fancy lunch. And you were. You wanted the show to be cool. You didn't want to be involved in, like, a loser show.

[Paige]

Yeah, basically.

[Kate Hudson]

That's what I said to her. I'm like, is this going to be cool or am I going to look like a loser?

[Brenda Song]

No.

[Kate Hudson]

We sat. We talked. I've known Jeannie Buss since I was young because I'm a big Kings fan, and I used to go to. Yeah, hockey.

[Brenda Song]

Hockey Kings. Not the Sacramento Kings, just to be clear.

[Kate Hudson]

And I got to meet Jeannie when I was young at the Forum Club, and I just felt like. I remember reading the logline of the show, and I was like, I. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do the show. I just. I knew it in my gut. And then when we met, I had. I. I have so much trust in Mindy, and we've had, like, the time of our lives. And then I got to meet Brandon, who's become.

[Unknown Female Host]

Oh, so you guys met on the show, too.

[Brenda Song]

You didn't.

[Unknown Female Host]

Because your chemistry, like, when you went to Toronto, I was like, sorry, what's going on? Like, I really felt like it was like a real friendship break, breakup. I would have thought you guys knew each other before you filmed.

[Mindy Kaling]

It's out.

[Kate Hudson]

It's out.

[Paige]

That's what we do. With documentaries, we're like, don't tell them what happened to Ted Bundy.

[Hannah]

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[Mindy Kaling]

Amazon Health AI presents painful thoughts. Why did I search the Internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores in various stages of ooze. I can clear my search history, but I can never unsee that.

[Unknown Narrator]

Don't go down the rabbit hole.

[Mindy Kaling]

Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast. Healthcare just got less painful.

[Paige]

I want to really quickly play a clip from this work of art.

[Kate Hudson]

He was like seconds from asking me out.

[Brenda Song]

Was he? Sounds like you were seconds away from offering up your body, Allie.

[Kate Hudson]

There was a pregnant pause. Now I know what that means. I think it's finally our time.

[Brenda Song]

Hmm.

[Kate Hudson]

Okay. That's a very judgy.

[Brenda Song]

You just got out of an eight year relationship. Have some fun.

[Kate Hudson]

I am trying to have fun, Allie. I'm trying to have fun with Jay.

[Brenda Song]

Isla, your first post love hookup needs to be low stakes. Someone you'll never see again. You don't like that guy when we're in Vegas. Or that guy in Cabo. Or that other guy in Cabo.

[Kate Hudson]

Okay, I get the point. I'm a retired slut and it's time

[Brenda Song]

for you to get back to the streets. So please don't text Jay or send him conspiracy reels on Instagram.

[Kate Hudson]

Ally, the sinking of the Titanic was not an accident. There is proof.

[Unknown Female Host]

I'm leaving.

[Paige]

I have to know, as artists, do you guys like watching yourselves or does it.

[Brenda Song]

No. That was painful.

[Paige]

I'm so sorry we put you through that. That was every time.

[Kate Hudson]

Every time. It's always weird. It's never. I'll never get used to it.

[Unknown Female Host]

I'm like hearing your own voice.

[Paige]

They're saying, you're so hot. I was. I love how I'm like the Gigglers. Let me translate. They said you're really hot. Also, we loved your fits. We loved your hair. Like the suits, the ties.

[Unknown Female Host]

How much, like, say, do you get in your outfits?

[Hannah]

And do you get to keep anything?

[Kate Hudson]

Some things. Some things I keep.

[Paige]

She looks at Mindy.

[Unknown Female Host]

Maybe.

[Kate Hudson]

Maybe. I take.

[Mindy Kaling]

You guys have kind of a lot of say, right?

[Brenda Song]

Yeah. No, no.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, yeah.

[Brenda Song]

It's so wonderful because the Thing is, our showrunner, Dave Stassen, is always like, I'm a man. I don't know. You choose. When it comes down to it, we have a lot of say, and our costume designer is incredible. So we. It's so much fun.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

And I work with my stylist, Sophie, and she kind of helps curate everything, and it's been awesome. I love it. I love the Isla looks.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Mindy Kaling]

You get crazier and crazier.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Paige]

Who takes the longest in glam?

[Brenda Song]

Justin Theroux. How long does he take? Way too long.

[Paige]

Is it the brows? Like, what is he wearing?

[Mindy Kaling]

Okay. But in defense of Justin, right. He's a handsome guy. Right. And you get to a certain age, that doesn't come easy. Right. You gotta kickstart that.

[Kate Hudson]

You know, you need a lot of massaging.

[Brenda Song]

A lot of ice, face ice, biologic.

[Kate Hudson]

A lot of lymphatic drainage in the.

[Mindy Kaling]

And so for him to look. No, he. He's. He's. He's a young, young man. Handsome guy. He didn't look that handsome in Devil Wears Prada, though.

[Paige]

That probably took a while in glam.

[Kate Hudson]

That was the quickest in glam.

[Brenda Song]

That was him not in glam.

[Mindy Kaling]

Yeah, that was.

[Brenda Song]

That was him just showing up and going straight to work.

[Mindy Kaling]

And I saw the movie, and I was like, where's my Adrian Grenier? Where's my man candy? It was like the. The journalist friend that she had.

[Paige]

Yeah, they had, like, a guy with an accent. They were like, that'll do. Yeah, sorry. This is devil wears Prada 2 talk.

[Kate Hudson]

I'm like, I have to see this movie.

[Brenda Song]

I haven't seen it yet either.

[Paige]

It's really. They did it justice.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, it's very cute.

[Paige]

Mindy, do you have any casting regrets?

[Mindy Kaling]

What if I was just like, yeah, I wish it was Anne Hathaway and Sandra O. But somehow we made it work with these two.

[Paige]

I think the casting is spectacular on the show. Everyone is such a great character. The chemistry is so good.

[Mindy Kaling]

We were so lucky. And it just felt like. And this is really a testament to Kate. Like, once Kate wanted to do it, it was, you know, getting Jay Ellis and all the great Octavia Spencer. They had this prior relationship, and everyone just wanted to act with the cast. It was amazing to the point where I was like, I jealous. Why can't I be on the show? We feel really lucky with who was on it. I think Max Greenfield is so funny and great. When you guys broke up this season, I was like, can I. Can I step in? Like, he's such a cutie. So, yeah, we were. We were really lucky.

[Unknown Female Host]

Do you have any dream characters that you would like, like to cast?

[Hannah]

Like, any actor that you're like. I really want them in it.

[Mindy Kaling]

Chet is. We love Chet so much. I would love Tom Hanks to be on the show in some way.

[Paige]

That's your long game. You're like, chet, come on the show.

[Mindy Kaling]

It does. It does seem like that. No, Chet is so funny on the show. And whenever we wish there was one,

[Unknown Female Host]

can we FaceTime him?

[Mindy Kaling]

Don't you feel like Tom Hanks, he's one of the funniest people alive. He's so funny in snl, but he does these movies now and I, like, love them. Like Greyhound and Bridge of Spies that he does, like the dad movies now. And I want him to be in. You've got me. I want to be in something really funny. And so I'd love to have him on the show.

[Paige]

And we also love Ray Romano.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, he's great.

[Kate Hudson]

I also just like crazy comedians like Tim Robinson.

[Paige]

Yeah, I met him today at the brunch. Sorry, name dropping.

[Kate Hudson]

I love you. And I got so excited.

[Paige]

I was like, I love you. I didn't say anything.

[Kate Hudson]

I went, yeah, but I don't know.

[Unknown Female Host]

You literally did. I watched you do that.

[Paige]

I was like. And then I walked away because I didn't know what to say.

[Kate Hudson]

You know, what's great about our show is that it sort of lends itself. We've kind of opened this world up to where anything's possible. You know, anybody could come on and do something fun for like a day. And we have so much fun on set that that's exactly what we're doing. You know, like this year when we did the basketball game and we had my brother and Speedman and we had so much fun when we were doing that, you know, so it's great. I'm sure we'll have a lot of people also like.

[Mindy Kaling]

And this is getting increasingly rare. We get to shoot in la, which is so. It's such a huge part of the show. We just like if we can, you know, I just think getting actors to come here. We feel so proud to be able to shoot here. Our creator crew is incredible. And. Yeah. So we hope that we can kick start a trend where more and more comedies are shot here.

[Paige]

We've all been there as women in the arts and women in stem. Have you ever walked into a room and felt underestimated because you're a woman? And how do you deal with that energy in the room? And then overcome. Wow.

[Unknown Female Host]

Big shift in the show.

[Paige]

Let's bring out Michelle Obama.

[Kate Hudson]

I actually get. Okay, this is going to sound awful,

[Paige]

but I get a little bit of

[Kate Hudson]

a weird, like, hit off of when I can see when I'm pissing a guy off. Like, I feel like I'm had moments where I've sat and I've had to, like, stand up for myself in certain things, and you can just feel them hating it, and I fucking love it.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

There's a part of me that's like, I don't know. I just. When I see that and I. Cause I. And I say this not as a generalization because I work with a lot of great men and I've had a lot of great support from men, women, like, but there are just. We all know them. And those moments for me, when I know that I have a little bit of the upper hand and they fucking hate it. I'm like, I'm enjoying every second of this. It's not revenge.

[Paige]

That's the only way I. Orgasm.

[Kate Hudson]

Sorry.

[Paige]

Okay, we took it too far. That was my bad.

[Kate Hudson]

But do you know what I mean? Like, there is a moment, you know, I think a lot of times there's sort of like those kinds of people who, like, want, you know, they want to pull the wool over your eyes, and you're sitting there and they think they're going to sweet talk you, or they think that they can make you feel a little bit like, oh, you should be doing it like this. And then we're going to kind of steamroll you a little bit. And I enjoy those moments when I'm

[Paige]

like, nope, I'm all jacked up right now. Like, put me in a room.

[Kate Hudson]

But that's how I feel. What about you? I know you're like, you're similar. Come on.

[Mindy Kaling]

No, I'm like, always at, like, a simmer. Like, my rage is right under the surface.

[Paige]

You're so. Paige.

[Mindy Kaling]

No, I feel like I am. I feel so lucky. I have, like, the career of my dreams. Like, it's everything. But also the scrutiny that I face versus my contemporaries is, like, absolutely crazy. When I fail, I fail, fail huge. And when my contemporaries fail, it's like a quiet little whatever. If a guy does a show with about a bunch of guys and it's really guy coded, it's like a. It's considered like, high art. But if I do a show with women talking about stuff, it's like, what a cute little trifle. Something to watch as a guilty pleasure when you're on the Treadmill.

[Brenda Song]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

This is what's happening.

[Mindy Kaling]

Yeah. And then it's just a simmer. I also feel rageful when I'm to trying, trying to parallel park a car and a man is like, jumps in. He's like, I'm gonna help you. And I'm like. And they're just being friendly and I'm like, I don't need this. Back away from my car. And I. I don't know. But that's not answering the question. But I was amazing.

[Kate Hudson]

Well, that one, you might want to.

[Mindy Kaling]

I have it handled. I have a backup camera because it's fucking 2026.

[Unknown Female Host]

You're like, this is an awesome self driving car, dude.

[Mindy Kaling]

And women don't do that. And a woman wouldn't say, I'm gonna help you. Imagine women are like, I'm gonna go do my own thing.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Mindy Kaling]

And if they're just trying to be helpful, but I'm like, you know, go away. So that's was that.

[Paige]

And you guys have been in rooms with some of the most powerful, influential men in Hollywood and wonderful collaborations. You've held your own and we commend you for that.

[Mindy Kaling]

Thank you.

[Paige]

I've never said commend before. That was crazy. Brenda, how about you?

[Brenda Song]

I'm the opposite. No kidding. No. Here's the thing that I feel as an Asian American woman, in trying to concede in anything, especially in this industry, I feel like you always walk in a room feeling underestimated, feeling like it's gonna be a no. And for me, it's always been about proving to myself my own self worth. And honestly, I say this all the time and I truly mean it. Being on this show is one of the first times I've been doing this since I was three years old. I'm 38. This show has really been one of the few places where I truly feel seen, heard, taken care of, and where I truly feel like I have a voice. And that's really rare. And this show, being with women like Kate and Mindy, have really taught me to be unafraid, to speak, to speak up, period. Because the truth is, I'll be honest, there have been so many times in my career where people are like, well, why did you do that role? I was like, I'm just trying to work. You've got a say in it. And that's what's really hard. They make you feel like you have to defend every choice that you make when you realize that you're just trying to survive. And being on this show has really helped me and really Given me so much motivation to speak up for myself and to advocate for myself and to take risks that I don't think I would have taken. Like, it's the truth, though. Like, when I started this show, Kate said something amazing to me because she hurt. She was starring in a show and also having an album come out. And I, when we were talking about it, and she's like, you did this because for you, you didn't want to have any regrets. You didn't care. And it, like, she said it so casually, but it hit so hard for me because I feel like I was always so afraid to do something because I was afraid to fail. Because as we women, if we have a misstep, it's like a huge failure, we'll never get another shot. And so truly, being with these women has inspired me so much to be more like them.

[Unknown Female Host]

That is so nice.

[Paige]

And that comes from the top down. Like, that's from leadership. That's from, like, having been lucky.

[Mindy Kaling]

The men that we work with on our show are feminists, right? Like, they all. They all, like Ike and David worked on. They were on the Mindy project for 117 episodes. Like, they want to. They want to write stories about women, like demented women, but they think demented women should have a voice. And Scotty and all the guys here, that's not always the case. Like, you do a movie and there's. I don't know, Kate, you've done this. Ruben and Marco, and there's a couple guys who maybe aren't so happy about having it be that way. And that's like, this cast is incredible. The writers are incredible. And so we feel really supported by the men in our world. And that's. I would say it's not as common as you would think. So we are so blessed also for

[Paige]

you guys to get to this point in your career, you've had to do scary things. Like, you haven't been comfortable. I know you all have done things that scared the hell out of you, and that's how you became great. Do you have any advice for Paige when she's nervous? I'm just kidding. No. Paige is beta blocking her out. She's fine.

[Brenda Song]

I'm numb.

[Paige]

But, like, we're in, like, this early part of our career, these births, only 34. We're babies, children, literally, child brides. We don't know what to do. We're doing a lot of things for the first time. That's really scary. When you're insecure, doubting yourself. How do you overcome that especially when you're in the public eye.

[Kate Hudson]

In all seriousness, like, there is no creative field that you, you can get into without having to be completely terrified of putting yourself out there. So if you're not going to do it, then you're probably not in the right business.

[Mindy Kaling]

Right.

[Kate Hudson]

So if creatively also, what's so fun about what we do is that everything's new, which means it should always feel a little bit like kinetic and a little fearful and have those nerves. It's like anything that is a new idea, anything that's a new experience. Every time you walk out here and you do something like this, it's going to be a completely different crowd. You never know what that is going to be. That's part of why we love doing it. But it's also like you have to risk the fall.

[Brenda Song]

You.

[Kate Hudson]

If not, then it's just you got to get in like accounting or something. Like, you know, you got, you got to do something that's.

[Unknown Female Host]

Honestly, I need a beta box for that too.

[Mindy Kaling]

My advice for you guys, because I know you have a show that you're working on which is going to be huge hit.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, thank you.

[Mindy Kaling]

And you are. You're mere children. I know. So I'm going to. I hope this doesn't sound condescending, is when you're putting together the team for the show, which I know you're working on right now, it just has to be people that you're like, oh, that person is like obsessed with me and my voice. That director, that cast member, that writer. Because it's so hard to make a show. There's so many heartbreaks, there's such a rollercoaster. But like, it's like dating someone. The people that you get in bed with, they can't be doing like for the money or because of this and that or whatever. It's like when you leave it, you're like that. When Ike and Dave Stassen came to be interviewed to be writers on the Mindy project, they came to my house. They were both in full suits. They came. They weren't these comedy writer slobs showing up after the gym because it was, it was like a female led show and they didn't care. They came in and there were these well raised Chicago guys who were. And they brought. Because the show had been picked up, they brought me flowers to congratulate me, right? These two straight men from Chicago came in three BCS because they wanted the gig. And they were like. And that takes a lot. So my advice to you guys is you're so talented. You clearly have such an audience. Is when you are staffing up for this, that'll be inevitable. Hit from guest star to director for anybody. Like, just get people who are obsessed with you, which won't be hard.

[Unknown Female Host]

I love that I need more people.

[Paige]

She's like, can my dad work on the show?

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Unknown Female Host]

I'm like, I know the perfect showrunner.

[Paige]

And, Brenda, you talked about being scared.

[Brenda Song]

I always say when you're scared to do something, you know change is about to happen, and change can be scared. But I always say if you're not. If you don't want to make that leap, then you have to be okay with where your life is at. You know what this life is, and if you want to keep living that way, great. But no, no change. Like, you have to take that risk. I always just say, when I'm scared, just do it anyway. That's how I get into a lot of trouble.

[Paige]

I love that so much. Let's see what. Okay, we have a special guest video. This is. We tried to get Tom Hanks. We couldn't.

[Chet Hanks]

What's up, Giggly podcast. Yeah, I got the giggles over here too. Hannah, Paige, what's up? Mindy, Kate, Brenda, I miss you guys. Had so much fun working with you guys this season. But, you know, we can hang out with Kate if you want to throw another game night and invite me or anybody. Tell me that going on. Brenda, if you guys want to. If you and Nicole, you want to have. You have me over for dinner or something.

[Unknown Female Host]

Okay.

[Paige]

It got. It was too long. That went on too long.

[Mindy Kaling]

Like, I was nervous. I was like, oh, God, please remember my name.

[Paige]

Yeah, same.

[Brenda Song]

I thought he was gonna forget me. I thought he was gonna forget me.

[Mindy Kaling]

He was worried. Like, he was like, he did not. Brenda, Mindy. Yes. Can I tell you guys after he said it?

[Brenda Song]

Well, the funny thing is that's also how I love Chet, how he does all of our table raids that are zooms. They're usually in a car like that.

[Paige]

I'm obsessed with him.

[Brenda Song]

He's. No, it's in the eye.

[Kate Hudson]

We're always like, where's Chad? No, he's getting on. He's late. He's a little late, but he's just, like, in his car. He's like, yo, in front of a

[Mindy Kaling]

Planet Fitness with his phone propped up on the dashboard in a sleeveless shirt.

[Paige]

I literally was. We were like, what should we do for the show? And clearly, we had no idea. And I was like, can we get a video from Chet? And they were like, actually, that's one thing we can do.

[Lisa Rinna]

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[Unknown Narrator]

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[Paige]

We love fashion, so we obviously wanted to show some of the favorite looks. And this is Mindy and Kate's favorite look they submitted. Can we discuss the dance routine and what went into this process?

[Unknown Female Host]

How long did it take you to learn it?

[Kate Hudson]

I didn't have much time and I haven't danced in a while. So, like the Chloe, the.

[Brenda Song]

She learned in a day. She literally learned it the day before.

[Kate Hudson]

And they're like. And they come. They're like, okay, we're going to show you the dance. And they were just like,

[Mindy Kaling]

Kate. Kate is a. Kate is a scam artist. She did that thing where she's like, guys, I don't know. I don't think I'll be able to get. It's very complicated. And then just did that on like the second you.

[Unknown Female Host]

You were.

[Mindy Kaling]

So dance comes.

[Paige]

You were.

[Hannah]

She's a performer.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, I used to dance a lot. And then of course, you know, you get older and you don't dance at all. And so it. It kind of. It's like riding a bike. It sort of comes back a little bit. But then, you know, I look at it and I'm like, I gotta go back to dance class. But I. But it was so much fun. You know what they call that?

[Paige]

She's a triple threat.

[Mindy Kaling]

She's a triple threat.

[Paige]

That's what they say in the business in this town.

[Kate Hudson]

It was fun. It was so great.

[Paige]

But I really.

[Kate Hudson]

The best part was the outfit.

[Paige]

It.

[Unknown Female Host]

It's so cute.

[Brenda Song]

I just like, this little short killed it.

[Paige]

And you're glowing. You were like, this is where I meant to be.

[Kate Hudson]

I was having stuff we had so Much fun.

[Paige]

Also, this is me selfishly preparing for our show. When you're trying to remember your lines. Cuz, like, you can learn. Have new lines the day of. Like, are you guys quick with it? Or you like, leave me alone in my trailer? Like, what's your process? We're very nervous about remembering our lines.

[Unknown Female Host]

Hannah's really nervous about.

[Brenda Song]

Can I tell you guys? This is Kate. Kate's like on a phone, on a FaceTime. She goes, I don't know what the scene is yet. Hold on. Okay. And then she'll get the whole entire scene. I don't know how she does it. I'm not kidding you. She does it all the time.

[Unknown Female Host]

You just have photograph memorize really quick.

[Kate Hudson]

I might have a little bit of. I really actually have a. One of those weird. I could learn a monologue like if. Right now.

[Brenda Song]

If.

[Mindy Kaling]

If.

[Kate Hudson]

If I had like about 35 minutes, I could probably do it.

[Unknown Female Host]

Model.

[Mindy Kaling]

She's annoying. She's like. Comes easily to me,

[Paige]

my legs and my tails.

[Kate Hudson]

I'm going to start lying.

[Unknown Female Host]

No, but it's like my brain. I forget differently than your guys. There's nothing.

[Brenda Song]

I. I kid you not. We've been on set before where kids like, oh, yeah, we're doing this scene. We're like, no, no, no. We're doing this other scene. She goes, what? And she likes like, okay, well, give me the signs. And she like, sits there while they're like touching her up and she has it in her desk and she's like. And then she, like, knows every single word. It's kind of insane.

[Unknown Female Host]

So you never have to yell, like, line. Do people actually do that?

[Paige]

Paige, they did it with us when we did something.

[Brenda Song]

I will say that. Here's a trick that I use that I love is I. The night before. I don't. I read it. It's the last thing I do. Because there are studies that if you read it, it repeats in your brain. It's the last thing. So I go over my science. It's the very last thing I do. And I fall asleep and I wake up and it's usually memorized.

[Paige]

Wow.

[Mindy Kaling]

Sex that night. Yeah. What if it goes like you read it?

[Brenda Song]

Oh, yeah. And then I have sex. No.

[Mindy Kaling]

And then I.

[Brenda Song]

But then I have to go wash my face and get all ready. I have to do a whole routine.

[Mindy Kaling]

You have. So you have makeup on when you have sex?

[Paige]

No, but these are important questions. Thank you, Mindy.

[Brenda Song]

I still have like. But even you do. I can't just, like, roll. I have a. Like, I. It's you don't roll over and go

[Kate Hudson]

right to bed because.

[Brenda Song]

But I like.

[Kate Hudson]

But I don't fall.

[Brenda Song]

I'm not a good sleeper. I'm not a good sleeper.

[Paige]

I'm obsessed with where this went. She's like, and then I have my rolling tv. I can't fall asleep with a rolling tv.

[Brenda Song]

I need a rolling tv.

[Paige]

Why don't we have a rolling tv?

[Mindy Kaling]

We'll talk after about your routine after you read your sex and go to bed. No, I. I just wonder if it needs to imprint on you, and then you just. Nothing has to go straight to sleep. You can't be distracted by something.

[Brenda Song]

Oh, no, no, no. I can. Like, it's just the thing that I do, like, in, like, the. It's one of the last things I do.

[Mindy Kaling]

But it's a good trick. Yeah, I will say, because you guys are gonna be the stars of this show. I think it was so much easier for me to know my lines when I was on the Mindy Project than I was on the Office, because I'd be waiting all day for my one line, and the pressure's on. And you're like, I'm gonna mess this up. Because we've seen this. Sometimes we'll have, like, a guest star who's to come on, and somehow it's harder to know your line on the spot because you're like, I don't want to blow it. But then when you have a ton of lines, you get into the zone where, yeah, it'll be great.

[Paige]

I've been, like, auditioning a little, and every now and then, I'll just get one line audition. I overthink that one line so bad. I'm doing different. I'm like, that's not how people say that word. I forget how words work.

[Kate Hudson]

So it's like when you're on mushrooms and, like. And like, there's a word, and you're like, I think it's. I think it's popsicle. Is that the word?

[Paige]

Popsicle?

[Kate Hudson]

And in your mind, you're like, no, it's not.

[Paige]

Our favorite looks from the show. Brenda's giving Hannah coated. Yeah, I thought that was me. I thought that was me. On the right. We love a tie. I joke that when you wear a tie, you feel powerful, like, you can't help it. You feel like you have a dick. You know what I mean? Like, I know how it feels to just have something so swinging.

[Brenda Song]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And I start talking to people different. I'm like, what are you saying? I start explaining things and stuff, like, I'm.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, she fires me when I wear

[Paige]

it and I wear a tie. When I was doing my stand up tour and I walk on stage and I. I think more women should wear ties and they look sexy.

[Brenda Song]

And the funny thing is they used to joke that because I would tie my own ties and all the boys on the show would need their dresser to do their ties. And I'm like, what? This makes no sense. And this guy's like, I know how to tie a tie. I just, I still want to. I was like, well, you lazy ass,

[Unknown Female Host]

tie your own tie, men.

[Paige]

And then you.

[Hannah]

I love.

[Unknown Female Host]

I feel like you had such good looks the whole season, but I love when you're in like a monochromatic. Just like I'm coming in to up is very monochromatic.

[Kate Hudson]

I like the monochromatic. I loved that too. Although it was hard to wear.

[Brenda Song]

Yeah. Remember cuz it was a bodysuit.

[Paige]

I remember this.

[Brenda Song]

I had to tuck it in a couple times.

[Kate Hudson]

It was heart and it kept coming up and it was hard to get my mic.

[Paige]

Okay, back to advice for us. We have so many questions. I didn't actually run this by you, so this is a hard question, but like, you guys have been acting for a while. What's your kind of most like embarrassing mistake or moment that you've had on set? Because whatever it is, I feel like I'm going to do it. I feel like it's going to be with a toilet. That's what I the. The.

[Unknown Female Host]

Don't put it in the atmosphere.

[Paige]

The trailers. That's stressful. Trailers are stressful.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, you mean being in a trailer on set?

[Paige]

Yeah, because I get nervous tummies. I've never said tummies before. I was just looking at Kate Hudson in the eye and I freaked out.

[Unknown Female Host]

You didn't want to tell Kate Hudson you your pants all the time before

[Paige]

I go on stage.

[Unknown Female Host]

She herself at the devil thing. Where's Prada premiere?

[Mindy Kaling]

Wait, I had a bug.

[Paige]

I had a stomach bug.

[Unknown Female Host]

No, she didn't.

[Paige]

She. She drank whole milk.

[Unknown Female Host]

A couple hours earlier, my mom tried

[Paige]

to poison me with a latte. Hold on.

[Mindy Kaling]

So at the bathroom at the AMC or wherever where the premiere was.

[Unknown Female Host]

I wish we were at the amc. We were at Lincoln Center. Okay. We were at the real premiere.

[Mindy Kaling]

She broke the toilet at Lincoln Center.

[Unknown Female Host]

She literally sharted and it. Yeah, you know when you're.

[Paige]

I was holding it in the whole carpet. I was like. And then I got to like the party area. Heidi Klum looked at me and she

[Unknown Female Host]

didn't tell Me till the end of the night. Cuz she didn't want to ruin my time.

[Brenda Song]

Yeah, that's a good friend.

[Paige]

But. Yeah. What are like, things I should look out for on set in terms of. In terms of professionalism? Like, what could I do that be like, we'll never work with her again in this town.

[Mindy Kaling]

Like, okay, it's for real. And you guys, fallout experiences with this. Don't get romantically involved with a co star.

[Unknown Female Host]

She's married.

[Mindy Kaling]

Oh, yeah, well, we're married.

[Paige]

We're married.

[Mindy Kaling]

Don't have enough.

[Kate Hudson]

That doesn't matter. Not in Hollywood.

[Paige]

Whoa.

[Kate Hudson]

Sorry. You see it all the time.

[Mindy Kaling]

Don't have an affair with your.

[Kate Hudson]

Don't fall in love.

[Paige]

Do you find? It's like you're. It's like manifesting like you're acting.

[Unknown Female Host]

You're going to want.

[Paige]

You're acting in love and then you're in love.

[Mindy Kaling]

Yeah, you're going to want to and you're going to do it, but don't. Just don't do it.

[Unknown Female Host]

And is it because you're just like with them all day, every day that you're like, that the greatest person I've ever met.

[Mindy Kaling]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And it's like the Bachelor. You're like filming enough that you're like, okay, fine, he's my husband.

[Kate Hudson]

In like three weeks, you're like, he's the love of my life.

[Paige]

Yeah, well, acting, you have to be in that mindset.

[Mindy Kaling]

Having an emotional fair with a. A coaster.

[Paige]

And you guys kiss like you kiss. Katie is kissing everyone in this movie. I mean, this TV show.

[Kate Hudson]

Listen, Mindy wants me to make out with every single person. She's like, you're going to have sex with a lot of guys.

[Mindy Kaling]

It's good TV is the rule. Like Sad Duck is the rule.

[Kate Hudson]

There are no rules in this business. Yes. No, it depends on how you. It depends.

[Paige]

You know, it's a tongue kiss.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, well, no, I mean, look, if you're doing Baby Girl, you know, like what Nicole Pitman. Yeah. You're gonna get a little wild. But if you're doing Running Point, you know, we're not baby girling you. But no, one thing my dad said to me was like, one of the first pieces of advice my dad Kurt said, which he goes, enjoy it. Have a great time. Do not fuck your co stars. That's it.

[Paige]

And I was like, you married my mom. What are you talking about?

[Kate Hudson]

He's like, well, you can fall in love with them, but you can't fuck them until you really know you're falling in Love with them. And that's your purse.

[Unknown Female Host]

Okay, got it.

[Kate Hudson]

But it's. Because that's the. So you know, that's amazing. And I think it's great advice.

[Paige]

And then in Hollywood, the guys actually are good looking. It's not just like a guy named Steve who, like, is in marketing.

[Kate Hudson]

Oh, no, it's okay. It's part of the party trick.

[Unknown Female Host]

Okay.

[Hannah]

It's very whimsical.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, it's fun.

[Mindy Kaling]

That's fun.

[Paige]

I'm gonna be naked on stage.

[Kate Hudson]

Stage. It'll be fun.

[Mindy Kaling]

Like Roger Federer. You just throw it out there at the end.

[Paige]

You love tennis, don't you?

[Mindy Kaling]

I like. I like tennis.

[Paige]

I've seen you at the US Open, I feel like. Or something.

[Mindy Kaling]

I go to 10. I like tennis. You know, I. It's. I feel like it's my. I'm not as into tennis as you are into sports. I feel like you were the sports person.

[Unknown Female Host]

You don't have a rolling tv.

[Mindy Kaling]

I don't have a rolling. For tennis.

[Brenda Song]

But you can let love tennis casually. You can love it however much, you

[Paige]

know, I've seen you in a good outfit. I'd be open before.

[Brenda Song]

Are they fun? I've never been to a tennis match.

[Mindy Kaling]

I. It's a little quiet, like, for someone like me.

[Brenda Song]

Oh, I'd be.

[Kate Hudson]

That's.

[Mindy Kaling]

You can't be yapping. Do you know what I mean?

[Paige]

Yeah. And then you're stuck with your thoughts.

[Mindy Kaling]

You're stuck with your thoughts. But I do love tennis. I think it's. It's fun. You get to wear a Luke.

[Brenda Song]

Do you play?

[Mindy Kaling]

No. But thank you for asking

[Unknown Female Host]

that I

[Mindy Kaling]

could ever play tennis. Thank you.

[Paige]

Brenda, what's your advice? Based on a really true traumatic time.

[Mindy Kaling]

Okay, so I.

[Brenda Song]

When I think about working on the, like, the most, like, embarrassing thing, that's. I mean, I mean, I've done. I mean, I had my first kiss in real life on set, like, when I was 16. Yeah. On the Suite Life, I had my first kiss.

[Unknown Female Host]

Oh, my gosh.

[Brenda Song]

Yeah.

[Mindy Kaling]

I know.

[Brenda Song]

Child. Like Shelter. Kate's like, so sad. Shelter, child actor. But I will say so.

[Paige]

The.

[Brenda Song]

I think my most embarrassing moment is when you do a sitcom, they always. In the beginning of a show because we're doing it for a live audience. They introduce the cast. So everyone runs out, we wave, and we stand off to the side. When I did the Suite Life, we did two iterations. We did like almost 200 episodes of this show. Like I always did in high heels and, like, came out nothing. The very, very, very last episode, the Very week. It's at the end, we're all crying, and I'd already wrapped up in my slippers, and I was like, okay, whatever. We go out, I'm like, my last one, I slip like, it's a bananas on the floor, straight up on my back while I'm crying, and I'm like. And I literally just lay there because I don't know what to do.

[Unknown Female Host]

That's traumatic.

[Brenda Song]

My most traumatic. And I literally still have, like, fever dreams about it because it's the most.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, so, no, that's the scariest.

[Brenda Song]

Wear slippers and run on a set.

[Paige]

But I feel like it made you funny, it made you funnier, and it made you stronger. Thank you for sharing that with us. Thank you. Thank you. You guys. I think we've really hit on everything, and these women are really busy and, like, spared their time. I want you all to promise me you're gonna go home tonight, go to Netflix, turn on Running Point, and binge the fuck out of it. And can we all please put our hands together for our amazing guests tonight? Thank you so much. This was so much fun. Give it up for Kate, Brenda, and Mindy.

[Mindy Kaling]

We love you so much. Thank you.

[Paige]

Pat, we love you so much.

[Unknown Female Host]

Thank you.

[Paige]

Gigglers, we love you so much. Thank you.

[Unknown Narrator]

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[Hayden]

Howdy, howdy ho, and welcome to Fantasy Fan. Fellas, I'm Hayden, producer of the Fantasy Fangirls podcast and your resident lover of all things Sanderson.

[Mindy Kaling]

And I'm Stephen, your bookish Internet goo,

[Paige]

but you can call me the Smash Daddy.

[Hayden]

And we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Mistborn. But here's the catch. Steven here has not read Mistborn before.

[Paige]

That's right.

[Kate Hudson]

Hey.

[Paige]

Hey. So each week, you'll get my unfiltered raw reactions to every single chapter.

[Hayden]

And along the way, we'll do character deep dives, magic explainers, and Steven will even try to guess what's next. Spoiler alert. He'll be wrong.

[Paige]

News flash, I'm never wrong.

[Mindy Kaling]

Episodes come out every Wednesday, and you

[Paige]

can find Fantasy fanfellas wherever you get your podcasts.