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Angie
Hi, guys. I'm An.
Ari
And I'm Ari.
Angie
And this is Girls Gone Bible. We're a faith based podcast where we talk all things spirituality, mental health, the Bible. Look how cute this is. This is.
Ari
Okay, that's mine.
Angie
This is yours. I stole it from your house this morning.
Ari
Hi.
Angie
Because this is nlt and I read NIV now.
Ari
But that's nlt.
Angie
This is nlt. Today we're reading from nlt. I have a throat ache.
Angela
What?
Angie
Oh, my gosh. A throat ache or like, my throat. My throat's hurting a little bit.
Ari
It's okay.
Angie
I can't get sick. I hate getting sick more than it. Okay. Why are you acting like I'm being dramatic when there's nobody.
Angela
I don't know, like, I'm on some new stuff. I don't know. I'm on some, like. What am I on right now? What are you on? I don't know. Are you on your Pharisee? I'm just kind of like feeling brand.
Ari
New lately, you know?
Angela
You're acting brand new too.
Angie
Why are you feeling brand new? You're looking brand new. You're looking happy, at peace, thriving.
Ari
Clock it to try to be like you. Gen Z's being an auntie isn't easy, but trying to keep up with my kids.
Angela
What's up, dude?
Angie
What are you doing?
Ari
What's up, dude? What are you doing?
Angie
Nothing. Just came in with a bunch of notes. Do you remember when we first started the podcast where we used to come in with a.
Angela
Well, I didn't know what I was doing. We used to come in with so many notes. We wanted to know. I did. So would I. You would come in with a lot of notes.
Ari
You at one point didn't know.
Angela
You would have eight pieces of paper and none of them were an orange.
Ari
I was like, shh.
Angela
So Peter sat on the boat. I was just trying to lead you guys while I was drowning. No.
Angie
When you look at what you've done, my favorite part about it was none of your notes were ever in order.
Ari
I know. I. Yeah, I've. I feel like I'm a lot more coordinated nowadays. What do you think?
Angie
100%. Yeah. You're coordinated.
Angela
You think so? Yeah. You have great coordination. Let's throw a baseball and see. Even though you called me dyslexic last night.
Ari
Well, do you know what dyslexic is? It's when people read.
Angie
Okay, but you.
Ari
I didn't know what it meant. I just read that.
Angela
Sometimes the words get jumbled. But you told me you had to imagine.
Ari
Just picture this for a second. You guys just find Jesus. You guys just start reading the Bible.
Angela
Then, I don't know, three months later, you have to read the Bible in front of thousands of people. I was pooping my pants every Tuesday. And you did such a good job. And you did such. I was like, it's so funny. The story we're reading today, I did the same thing. It's so funny how we are.
Ari
Every time I read, you're like, midianite.
Angela
Midianites, Jebusites.
Angie
Well, in the beginning was the Word.
Ari
And the Word was.
Angela
The Word was with God, and the word was God.
Angie
Dude, what's new? Okay, so I feel. I'm wearing hoops today, and I feel a little bit like Shakira. I think I'm on. Like, do I look a little Latin?
Ari
Alo. Yeah, like, oh. Like, okay, that will. Usually people call me a low all the time.
Angie
Well, because you are JLO reincarnated as a Christian. Everyone would comment on Ari's clips on Instagram.
Angela
Like, jlo thought JLO found Jesus. I didn't know JLO was a Christian.
Ari
Yeah, I don't know if it's given Shakira, but it's definitely giving. Like, angel from the block. Yeah.
Angie
Angie's on the block for sure.
Angela
What? We definitely come from the block.
Angie
Something like that. For sure. Do you know any two people who laugh about their trauma more than you and I do?
Ari
I don't think so.
Angie
No.
Ari
Do you think we have no choice? What else are we gonna do? Cry?
Angie
Exactly. If you don't laugh, you'll cry, right?
Ari
And we ain't doing that.
Angela
No, we wheeze.
Ari
Our. It that.
Angela
Wheeze. Laugh.
Angie
Wheeze. Yes.
Ari
Look down at your notes right now, and she. The first thing it says. Ari, let's talk about tonight. Getting people's names wrong. Abby Gamboa.
Angela
Jesus sleeps on the pillow versus Jesus walking on water.
Ari
Why don't you tell the class?
Angela
Okay, I'll tell the class. Because I was getting my hair done.
Angie
And I start crying, laughing, crying, laughing. Thinking about the fact that.
Angela
And I love this about you. I'm not coming for you. I swear.
Angie
Like, you.
Angela
Sometimes you don't listen.
Angie
Like when.
Ari
When someone said, I hear every third word.
Angela
Every third word.
Angie
And you get by. And like, I do. And so, like, Ari, I think I've told you guys this before, but Ari, I'll ask her like, hey, Ari, what's that person's name? And she'll be like, oh, it's Sarah. And I'll go up to the person. I'm like, hey, Sarah. And they're like, oh, my name's Janet. And I'm like, ari, like, why? And it's all the time, every single time. I can't ask her what somebody else's name is because I will go call.
Angela
Them the wrong name.
Ari
Yeah, I get the. I get especially get the last names wrong, right? Like, I can't pronounce them when I read it. Especially with, like, Abigail and Boa.
Angela
Oh, and then I wrote down Abby because you still.
Angie
I'll call her Abigail Abigambino.
Angela
Why did I think her name was Abby Gambino? You said you knew someone from high school in Massachusetts named Abby Gambino. And then Abby Gambino that watches.
Angie
And then there's this Christian guy named John Ramirez.
Angela
She calls him Johnny Ramirez. And I'm like, that's also not his name.
Angie
We were on tour this past weekend in Atlanta, and.
Angela
Can we tell the story about 2819 about you being nervous driving? Oh, yeah, tell him, you guys. No, you can tell him.
Ari
But you guys, 2019 church has just.
Angie
We went this past weekend. It was so special. Philip Anthony Mitchell's church.
Ari
I.
Angie
He has three first names. It's awesome.
Ari
I know I called him the wrong name in an interview.
Angie
We call him Anthony.
Angela
We call him Mitchell.
Ari
I mean, I've been watching him from the beginning. And so to. I'm like, I'm a digital disciple of 2019. So to be able to actually be in person at the church was.
Angela
A sight for Angela to see for sure.
Ari
I mean, I was jumping up and down. I was like, come on, somebody.
Angela
You were in your element.
Ari
I was going not. You guys don't understand. I was literally losing my mind the minute I walked in. I'm crying. You guys already saw me on the episode with him. There were so many memes about that episode, by the way.
Angela
So many.
Ari
They're like, poor Ari.
Angela
I was just trying the whole time. But the funniest thing.
Angie
So Ari's friend Sophie was with us and her daughter Kalia.
Angela
And we're driving in the car in.
Angie
The morning, and the one Thing about Ari and I, we are truly servant hearted, humble queens.
Angela
And it's really important for us to get like a nice smoothie with good ingredients.
Angie
Like these things are really important to us. And so we're in Atlanta and I just like, struggle sometimes in the south in general when we're there on tour. I love the south so much, but I also can't find food that makes.
Angela
Me feel safe sometimes. And so I just wanted a smoothie so, so bad. And we're like 30 minutes early to church. And I'm like, she's in the worst mood.
Angie
I was like, all right, if I.
Angela
Don'T eat soon, like, nobody's going to be happy.
Ari
And I look at her, I'm like, patience.
Angie
She goes, patience.
Ari
And I said, she goes, you get in and drive. She didn't want to drive. And anytime I drive, she watches me like a hawk. Cuz I'm.
Angela
You watch me like a hawk.
Ari
I'm the be type friend.
Angie
And then so we go to. We're at the church and then I'm like, all right, I need to eat something. I need a smoothie. I need something. Something in my stomach.
Ari
And my friend Sophie is strictly organic.
Angela
So organic.
Angie
Like, she's like, she wants something very healthy, very good ingredients.
Angela
And so I look up on my phone smoothies and I'm like, oh, this place is perfect. It's called Get Fruity. I was like, ang, did you find a place? And she was like, you know, when you're in like such a bad mood, you know you want to talk.
Ari
She's like, yeah. She's like, there's a place called like, let's get.
Angela
Let's Get Fruity like a mile away. And you're like, okay, get fruity. I was like, okay, get fruity. And then so we go there and by the looks of the outside, this poor company, we're not like blasting this place. It was just like a fried fish sandwich and an apple. So we. So we go to this place and it does not look like a place where I want to get a smoothie or Sophie wants to get a smoothie. And it's like not even open yet. It was five minutes. We're parked outside of it and we're looking at the door and we pull up and we go. We pull up and I go, I'm not eating here, my friend. So I go, Sophie, you and Cleo want to go in and get. She goes, no, there's a. There's a fish. There's a fish stick sandwich on the door. And A Snapple. And there's. I'm like, just go get a smoothie. So if she's like, no, there's dyes in it. Like, I'm good. I'm like. And then I was laughing all day thinking about the fish sandwich. Like, we went to get fruity to get smoothies, and there's a fish sandwich, fish stick and a snowball. And I said, I have to get back to LA where I can eat. We are so unhinged.
Angie
Oh, my gosh, that was so funny.
Angela
And then we're going into 2819, and bless Ari's heart.
Angie
I mean, this church, these people mean the world to her, and I respect it because I'm that way with people that I love and. And I love them too.
Angela
But Ari got so nervous. She got so nervous. And she was driving, and I knew, and she was driving like two miles an hour saying hi to everybody as we were going in. Angie's just staring at me like, I could feel the stare. And I was like, are you gonna go? I almost crashed into a parked car. You were making it. And then when you were trying to park and you parked so badly and you were so embarrassed, as if everybody was watching, I was like, this is truly one of the best moments of my life.
Angie
Oh, my gosh. That was so funny. The fish sandwich and the Snapple.
Ari
There's.
Angie
Can somebody make a meme for us, please? Of. And Ari. And a fish sandwich and a Snapple because that go. That was legendary. Guys, before we really get into today's episode, we want to talk to you about some things that are really important to us. First, as most of you know, we are on the Girls Gone Bible Live tour. We have been having the best time of our lives.
Ari
The best.
Angie
The best on tour. It's holy, it's special, it's healing. It is fun. Fun and full of worship and the presence of God. And we really want you guys to come see us on tour. You can go to girlsgone bible.com tour to get your tickets, see what cities you're in. We'll have new cities in the new year coming up very soon. We also have our book, our devotional that we love so much that just, by the way, went to Target, which is huge.
Angela
And.
Angie
And so cool. Like the name of Jesus, a book full of scripture sitting in Target. That's so cool. That's such a win. So you guys can go to GirlsGone Bible.combook to get your book. And last but not least, we have GGB plus, which we love. I just released an episode recently and I called it a Theology around suffering. And I think, gosh, it encouraged me as I was filming it and I just talked about what it's like going through a hard time and how to trust Jesus through that and what it's like to suffer and what God thinks about about suffering. So GGB plus is so special to us. So we want you guys to join and you can go to girlsgonebible.com/to subscribe.
Ari
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Angie
Okay, so as we were saying, today we're talking about Moses and the burning bush. We're going to read out of Exodus 3 the first 10 verses. Why don't we set the stage a little bit and tell you guys who Moses is and what this whole situation is. So as we all know, the beginning of our faith, Genesis, Exodus, the whole Bible, the whole Old Testament is all about the Israelites, which are God's chosen people. The Israelites are the group of people that God delivered from Egypt into the promised land. What is really special about this is that's why I've fallen so in love with God. I think I've said this before, but I've fallen so in love with the father through reading the Old Testament. And I am obsessed with the Old Testament, you guys. It is so rich. The stories are profound. Like, I love the New Testament as well, but there's so much that we miss in the Old Testament because we just think it's boring and old and Jesus isn't there. But it's so rich and it's so important. And so this man, Moses, when God appears to Moses at the burning bush, Moses wasn't a hero. He was a man that was hiding. So Moses is a man who was born as an Israelite slave, but he was Literally sent across the river by his mom, picked up by another person in Egypt, and was raised as an Egyptian. So, like, imagine the identity crisis that Moses was facing his whole life, not knowing who he was, where he belonged. And then he grows up and he's in a situation where an Egyptian was going to kill a Hebrew slave. And basically, Moses intercepts and kills the Egyptian, and then he ends up running for the next 40 years. So here we have a man again who's not a hero. He's nobody special. He's a. Is just a shepherd, kind of like David. And God places a massive call on his life in a really ordinary, seemingly insignificant moment. And then, so we have Moses. He's in hiding for 40 years, and meanwhile, the Israelites are in deep, deep, deep captivity in Egypt. They have been slaves for a really long time. They're crying out, oppressed, and they feel like all their prayers are falling on deaf ears and not knowing that God is actively planning their rescue and their deliverance out of Egypt into the promised land. And so in this moment, Moses thinks he's forgotten. The Israelites think that God is absent. But all the while, God is doing something really cool. And so that's really important for you guys to know that no matter what you're going through, no matter how deep in slavery you feel you are, or no matter how deep in a lack of identity and purpose you think you are, God is up to something. Always, Always, he's up to something. Working things out for your good and the good of all those who love him. All right, dude, so let's read Exodus 3. We're going to read out of NLT today. Exodus, chapter three, Moses and the Burning Bush. Okay, I don't know why we keep saying that. You're not even saying that.
Ari
What accent is that?
Angela
I don't know. You're so creepy man.
Ari
He's a creepy man.
Angie
All right. Lord, thank you for your word that is more precious than gold. God, it is such an honor to teach your word. It is such a responsibility. So, Holy Spirit, I pray that you would come and I pray that you'd release wisdom, interpretation, understanding, revelation. Lord and God, I just pray that you would hold us accountable for all that we say when teaching your word and that you would. You would just give us the words to say and don't let us say anything that is a wrong interpretation in Jesus name.
Ari
And we just pray that every single distraction would be silence from everyone that's listening, that they would put away their phones and they would merely listen to the word. And that you would even begin to minister to their hearts with their own situations that they're dealing with.
Angie
In Jesus name, we pray that this word would enter deep into their hearts, etched on their hearts forever. And God, that the word that they hear would produce a hundredfold harvest in Jesus name. Okay. One day, Moses was tending the flock of his father in law, Jethro, the priest of Midian. He led the flock far into the wilderness and came to Sinai, the mountain of God. There, the angel of the Lord appeared to him in a blazing fire from the middle of a bush. Moses stared in amazement. Though the bush was engulfed in flames, it didn't burn up. This is amazing. Moses said to himself. Why isn't that bush burning up? I must go see it. When the Lord saw Moses coming to take a closer look, God called to him from the middle of the bush. Moses, Moses.
Ari
Here I am. Moses replied, do not come any closer. The Lord warned, take off your sandals, for you are standing on holy ground. I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. When Moses heard this, he covered his face because he was afraid to look at God.
Angie
Then the Lord told him, I've certainly seen the oppression of my people. Listen to what God says. This is how much he sees us. I have certainly seen the oppression of my people in Egypt. I have heard their cries of distress because of their harsh slave drivers. Yes, I am aware of their suffering. God is aware of our suffering. So I have come down to rescue them from the power of the Egyptians and lead them out of Egypt into their own fertile and spacious land. It is a land flowing with milk and honey. The land where the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites now live. Look, the cry of the people of Israel has reached me. And I have seen how harshly the Egyptians have abused them. Now go, for I'm sending you to Pharaoh. You must lead my people, Israel, out of Egypt. So we're going to start from the beginning of all of this. But I mean, I just love. We're going to do the first 10 verses this week, and then we'll probably continue on the rest of the chapter next week. But what I love about this so much. So this is the moment where God comes to Moses and he calls him. He calls him to be the one who sets the Israelites free from the slavery in Egypt and to lead them into the promised land. And it's a wild ride after that. But what do you think about that?
Ari
All Go ahead, you explain it.
Angie
Well, one of my first things that I think when I think about this story is we have Moses, an ordinary guy in an ordinary situation. He's passing by this bush. The guy is just walking, and he stops in a moment because he sees that a bush is on fire, but it's not being consumed, it's not burning up. And what I love about this so much, what I was thinking about was like, spirituality. A lot of people think that there's like the spiritual life and then there's just the regular life. And I think that's how a lot of us, including myself, at times practice and live out our Christianity. Where my spiritual life is my secret place in the morning with my candles. It's. It's church on Sunday, it's the prayer rooms during the week. It's my phone calls where I'm on my knees praying with my friends. But what we forget is that there is no difference in biblical faith. Spiritual life is all the time, everywhere. God is everywhere. He's involved in everything. And so there is no separation between your spiritual life and your normal life. So things like doing the dishes, taking a walk, answering emails, like those are all opportunities for God to speak. And as we know through scripture, is that God oftentimes speaks in those really quiet moments, not in these big ministry moments or big like worship moments. Like it's in the tiniest, sweetest softest moments that God speaks. And there's the Scripture. Psalm 24 says, the earth is the Lord's and everything in it. So for Israel during this time, the whole place could become holy ground. And I love that God establishes this is holy ground that you're walking. There's nothing special about where Moses is. There's nothing special about what he's doing. But because God is calling him in that moment, the presence of God is here. It's holy.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
You know, this is one of my favorite moments. Okay, so we see the moment where it says, when the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush. Moses, Moses. And Moses said, here I am. So in this moment, Moses, if he was distracted, would have kept walking. If he was so engulfed in his own stuff and his selfishness, his self centeredness, he would not have noticed the bush. Like, there was nothing that spectacular about a bush being on fire. That was like normal. But he took a moment to notice. It was his curiosity that led to the biggest encounter of his life with God, where he went up and was like, that's interesting. Why is that? Happening. There's so much beauty and curiosity in asking questions. I feel like for me, what has grown my faith so much is asking the Holy Spirit questions. Just being curious. God, what do you think about this? What's the meaning of like. I feel like my most profound breakthroughs have happened when I've just like, simply asked curious questions. Yeah. And what I think is so crazy. It says, when the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, then God spoke to him. So God did not speak until Moses stopped and was aware and curious. And so oftentimes God is waiting for us to look, stop, pay attention to him. And then he speaks in such profound ways. And I wrote this down. Revelation meets attention. True spirituality begins with noticing. True spirituality begins with being aware of God, what he's doing, when he's speaking. And truly, that's why being on your phone, which I've been doing a lot lately, that's why being on your phone, numbing out on social media, it's killing all of us. It's the worst thing you can do. It is destroying the revelatory moments that God has planned for us because we're so consumed with, like, entertainment. Yeah. And then. I love this so much. I have indeed seen the misery of my people in Egypt. I've heard them crying out. The title of this episode is the God who Delivers. But it could also be the God who sees, the God who is near, the God who cares. Because it says, I have indeed seen the misery of my people in Egypt. I've heard them crying out. And specifically I am concerned about their suffering. That is so comforting to me that God not only knows about my suffering, but he's concerned. He cares, which means that he's going to do something about it. You know, God never leaves you in a bad spot. No matter how hard it is and how difficult it seems, he does not leave you there. And I wrote down that this is the first revelation of God's character in Exodus. This is a really important moment. It's the first revelation of his character. Because God is not an idea. He's not some abstract idea or a self help guru. He is a person with a character. It says that God is the. He is the God who sees, who hears, who knows, and who comes down to deliver. Being spiritual doesn't mean that you have a spiritual life that is above suffering. You bring your spirituality into your suffering and you understand that God is with you in it. And then the last thing that I'll say, verse 10, the last verse that we left off of it, Says, so now go. I'm sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people out of Egypt. So it comes with a commission. God always commissions us. At the end of GGB shows on tour, we always, for the most part, commission people to go out and do God's work. We release the. We ask the Lord to release the gifts of the Spirit. And we ask people to receive in faith and receive the grace, Holy Spirit empowerment, to go out and be the hands and feet of Jesus. You don't just become a Christian so that you can, like, have cool times with Jesus. You become a Christian to be on mission, to commission with God in and partner in what he's doing. Every encounter with God carries a summon. So God, if you encounter Jesus like he is in that moment, not only releasing something to you, but asking, asking you to do something, and he's commissioning you to go out. And so I love this moment for Moses. This guy with no identity, with no purpose. He's just a shepherd tending to the flock, working for somebody else.
Ari
Gave up.
Angie
He gave up. He's been in hiding. How many of us are running from God? Running from God, Yeah. Running from his past. Running from his mistakes.
Ari
Feels disqualified.
Angie
I can't imagine he would have ever thought anything good was going to come for him in his life, in this moment. And God chose this man who is so disqualified, who's so unqualified, who's so full of shame and lacking identity, and goes, you're perfect because my power is made perfect in your weakness. And I'm gonna do this through you.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
I wrote this down about a burning bush so people know really what it is. A burning bush in someone's life is a moment that grabs your attention so strongly that you can't ignore it. Something that interrupts your normal life and pushes you towards a purpose, decision, or change. It's often unaccept, unexpected, persistent, and hard to overlook. Just like the bush that burned but didn't burn up. And so I've had so many of these moments. Something that I was thinking about earlier that stuck out to me is when we first started Girls Gone Bible, I was still acting, and I wanted to act so badly. I went to acting school. You guys know, I had a long journey with acting where I loved it so much. I love the craft. I auditioned so much, even while having girls Gone Bible and for like, the first six months maybe. And slowly, little by little, I felt the Lord start, like, pressing in on my heart and being like, this is not the path for you. And it was so hard for me. To accept. Do you remember we'd be like in podcasts and I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm an actor. Like, I act. I loved it. I loved it and I didn't want to let it go.
Ari
I feel like I let it go. Like, I was ready.
Angie
Yeah. You?
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
I just had worked so hard for so long and I was so. It was my greatest joy, my greatest passion, my greatest gift. Gifting. It was like my gifting too. So for me, I was like, if you have the passion, the gifting and the opportunities, like, that's got to be God's will for your life. It has to be right. It all makes sense. And so we start Girls Gone Bible. And I'm like, no, I'm gonna have both. Like, it's not sinful, it's not bad. I can do. I can do it all. I can have both. And I just knew, though, deep, deep, deep down I knew God was like, it's not for you. You're going to be in full time ministry. You have a really specific calling. Not that this thing is bad, but it's just not for you.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
And I'm like, but that doesn't make any sense when everything is good on paper. Jesus.
Ari
Like, I remember.
Angie
Really? You don't know what you're talking.
Angela
I remember this.
Angie
Yeah. I was just like, I love it, Lord, though. I love it. Like, I want to do this and I've done it for a long time. How am I supposed to give up something that I've put my life and my heart and my soul, blood, sweat and tears into, you know, since I was a little girl, like, how do I give something like that up? And after Ari and I did a baptism night, the first year of Girls Gone Bible. And I think I've told this story before, but it was, this was like truly my burning bush moment. I was sitting at 2:00 in the morning. It was my first time doing like in person ministry. So I didn't really know about like the in person ministry. Adrenaline and like when you pray for people for three hours. I did. I didn't know yet what that felt like. So I couldn't sleep all night. I was in my house and I was sitting on my couch and I had. And the Bachelor was playing actually, but I wasn't watching, watching it. I was just staring at the tv and I felt the Lord so clearly be like, this is your life.
Angela
Wow.
Angie
This is your purpose. I need you to let, let everything else go. And it was finally the first moment that I ever came into agreement. And I said, lord, whatever I did tonight, that's all I want to do for the rest of my life. However you want me to be involved, I'll be involved. But that's what I want to do. I am ready to let everything else go. And from that moment forward, my agent never reached out to me again. I didn't reach out to them. Which is like, not normal. And I don't.
Ari
That is crazy.
Angie
And I don't necessarily. I had like moved agents. And so I wasn't really close to these people.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
And God was already being like, girl, like, you can try as much as you want. I'm gonna make like you're he's sovereign. He's gonna do whatever he feels is right for our lives. But that was my burning bush moment. Truly one of them where God grabbed my attention so strongly. It was persistent. Right. This was happening for a while. He wasn't letting up. And it interrupted my whole life.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
And it changed everything. And it was the best decision.
Ari
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Angie
Because I don't want to be double minded and hanging on to something that God is asking me to let go. And so that's just a small. I mean, there's so many other ones. I mean, talk about every breakup you.
Angela
Ever go through as a burning bush moment. You know what I mean?
Angie
Mean.
Ari
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Angie
But what about you?
Ari
Well, When I think about. Yeah, like, you talked about Moses, like, he met him in his. The most inconvenient moment of his life. God had met me in the most inconvenient moment of my life. He met me in the most broken time of my life. A moment when I was. When my ex had left me, when I felt so rejected and worthless, when I lost my job, when I was contemplating on taking my life, when I just felt horrible. He came in at the craziest moment and met me in the middle of it and called me. I mean, that's my burning bush, right? Yeah, and. Yeah, and it's crazy. And it's like through that I. Through that uncertainty and feeling so disqualified and having to expose the most inner parts of my life on Girls Gone Bible, which I did not feel comfortable doing. He just kept walking through that with me. I mean, I remember just feeling so disqualified, so uncertain. So like being on film for the first time and just not. I mean, I was going through so much, but I kept being obedient and he kept walking me through that. And then I think even the other biggest part of my obedience was, you know, sacrificing the biggest desire of my life, which was being a mother and a wife.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
And laying down my timeline and laying down those desires for the, for the call that God had on my life. And, you know, even my taking off my sandals moment was like, you know, honoring that. I had to lay that down for the, for the call that God had on my life. And, and, and really being like, okay, well, this is holy ground. Yeah, I know I have these desires, but I'm going to put that down to pursue you fully.
Angie
Wow.
Ari
And so, yeah, I mean, I. Being obedient has been. I could have done things so differently. I could have, you know, went the whole other way. But just blindly being obedient and letting God lead me in my life. Life to the call that he had for me through the most just broken, inconvenient season of my life.
Angie
It's crazy.
Ari
And that's. And that's why, like, he. He does not call the qualified. He qualifies the cult.
Angie
Yeah, exactly.
Ari
Yeah. Right.
Angie
Exactly.
Ari
So, yeah, he does not come. It's crazy how he works. He comes to you in the most uncomfortable, inconvenient moments of your life, and it's like, like you have no say in when you're ready. I mean, all the moments I thought I was ready, all the moments when I. I mean, I was just showing her. I was showing her an entry in my journal where I was in 2022. I was like, please allow me to help people in my broken. In their brokenness. Use me with everything I've been through to help. Can I read?
Angela
Yeah, please read it.
Angie
This was so, so cute when we read this this morning.
Ari
Act of obedience. I wrote this in January 20, 2022. I wrote, I want a job that will take me out of my depression and build me a platform that I can help girls, even men, people that feel stuck like I do right now, I know I can do this. And so that act of obedience of. Of laying down things that I desired so much and going through that tough season where I had to really put everything on the surface and be. And be obedient and talk about deep stuff, that's why it's so hard sometimes to share inner parts of your life or do things that feel uncomfortable. But if God's calling you to do it, I promise you will thank him later. Because now, three years later, I'm sitting up here writing in my journal three years later of the things that all I wanted to do, and now I'm doing it, and so crazy. It's insane.
Angela
So crazy.
Ari
And then I'll just say one more thing about this story. When God says, I have come down to rescue them from the power of the Egyptians and lead them out of Egypt into their own fertile, spacious land. It is a land flowing with milk. God is always preparing a Moses or a way. And when I think about my own life in the. In that season where I was so broken, it was so uncertain, God was working behind the scenes. He was preparing you to then lead you to me to walk through this journey, which then led us to this. And so he's always making a way. He's always doing something, even when you can't see it. If he's not preparing a Moses, he's preparing something behind the scenes. If you're in a season right now where you're just like, what is happening? I'm suffering, I'm struggling. I'm crying out to God, and I feel like he's not hearing me. Trust me, let this be a reminder. When he says, I have heard the cries of my people and I am coming down to the rescue them, let that hit your heart and say, this is for me. He's going to rescue me. He hears me and in due time, he will come down and help me. And, yeah, he will lead me to a land flowing with milk and honey. Can we write that on our hearts? How beautiful is that? That's what. That's what he's doing right now. And in your season of the unknowing and suffering, let that be a reminder to you. I was thinking about that song Waymaker, and I was like, even though. What does he say? Even though. Even though I can't.
Angie
Oh.
Ari
Even though I can't.
Angie
Even if I can't see it.
Ari
Even if I can't see it, you're working. Even if something like that. But even if I can't see it, It. You're working.
Angie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ari
Like, please, like, even repeat that when you start to struggle. Even though I can't see it, you're working. Miracle worker, miracle maker. That's my song. That's been my song since day one. So, yeah, that's my burning bush. That's my burning bush. Yeah.
Angie
We've had so many burning bush moments, guys. All those massive moments and even small moments in your life, life that God comes in and disrupts your plans. He stops you in your tracks. He gets your attention. Like, that's a burning bush moment. And I love what you were saying about God rescuing. Like, guys, please read the Old Testament. You will lose your mind when you find out who God really is. And the fact that, like, he has such a specific character. He is so cool and he's so kind and he's so merciful. And you watch the Israelites. I hope that we do a whole series on Exodus, because what we see these Israelites doing is absolutely wild. These people are given everything by God, literally are being delivered out of slavery. And they're so disobedient. They are so ungrateful. There are all the things. And then you move on to 1st and 2nd Samuel, 1st and 2nd Kings. You see all of these leaders and these. These kings and these people that God puts into place, and you see them and all the Israelites in active prostitution, disobedience, infidelity against God. And you see God, his character remains the same no matter what the people are like. That's what's crazy to me. He will not stop rescuing them. They put themselves in bad positions and God continues to rescue them. That's the craziest thing about God for me, me, is that I love him so much. Jesus, literally, we make messes and God cleans them up. That's crazy. He's so merciful. He's so kind. He's so forgiving. I just love the character of God so much. Guys. He is better than we can even conceptualize in our minds because he's nothing like us. That's right. He's literally nothing like us. And he never stops rescuing us. And he never stops. Stops caring and loving, even in the middle of our mess. It's just insane.
Ari
And he knows the beginning, the middle, and the future. And so it's like when we're questioning why and we're trying to do things in our. He knows his ways are perfect. I don't know what's making me say that, but his ways are perfect. How you respond to the call is important. One of the ways, like when Moses came and saw and then God answered him, it's like, like one of the things we can do is. Is sit in your quiet time with him. Read the word of God. Study it. Don't just look at it as something you study, but really read it and invite the Holy. The Holy Spirit into your heart to minister to you as you read it. This is a way that we can find the call of God for. For your life. Like, I had to. To spend an immense amount of time with the Lord and. And at times it was uncomfortable. And when I wanted to. To go and chase my desires, my. The desires that I wanted, but I didn't. And I sat and I studied and I really built this incredible relationship. And it just. That act of obedience will show you where you are supposed to go, the instructions that he has for your life. And so, yeah, those are the ways that you can. Like Moses when. When he saw him take a closer look. And where we are right now, one of the ways you can understand and see is intimacy with the Lord. Read the Bible, sit and stop talking so much and listen to what he has to say to you. That is an act of obedience.
Angie
So good. That's so good.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
So how to recognize a burning bush moment for you. A burning bush often interrupts your comfort. It won't go away. It feels bigger than your ability. Right. A lot of the times God is calling us to do something we could never do ourselves. And usually that's a sign that he's calling us to something. It pushes you towards obedience, not ego, and aligns with God's character and scripture. So if you've had a pressing on your heart for a while about something and you just keep pushing it away and pushing it away and ignoring it, it's something that you need to look at. And I love this so much. Something that interrupts your comfort. I know it's Jesus when he wants to interrupt my comfort, you know, because it's so important. It's so important. And that's what he does. Because God, actually, I'm so sorry to say, it doesn't care about our comfort. He cares about our character above everything else. And guess where our character has grown the most. Most in discomfort. Exactly. And in our suffering. So it's just like these. As we mature in Jesus, you guys, every single one of us begins to realize that, yes, God is a God who blesses and he heals and he brings comfort and love and all the cute, beautiful things. But then you mature and you realize, oh my gosh, he's here to grow my character. What does that mean? It means I'm going to be put in some really uncomfortable positions at times and. And I need to hear this just as much as you guys do. But we have to remember that discomfort is not a sign of. Is not always a sign of spiritual warfare.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
It's not always a sign of being out of alignment. It's not even always a sign of a. Of a lack of peace. Discomfort is where we grow. Suffering is where we grow. We have to not try to push those things off and realize what is God trying to do right now?
Ari
Oh, yes.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
You know, I can vouch that. Yeah, my whole life changed not because I was comfortable, but it was because of all the uncomfortability that I was in that led me to this place. And it really. It hurts so much in the moment. It's confusing, it's foggy. But you guys, it's. It's the place where you will end up thanking God later, literally when you mature and you come out of it and you will be like. Like, thank you, God, for that uncomfortability.
Angie
Can't wait to read Exodus the rest of Exodus 3 next week. But I just wanted to say something. Michael Kanos said something one time a long. A long time ago that like, literally changed my brain chemistry. And he said that because as we know, Jesus is in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was. Was God. So even though Jesus is born a long time later, after this moment of Moses in the burning bush, Jesus is here. He's involved. He is actively president. The president, not the president. He is actively present the. The Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are present here in Exodus chapter three, way before Jesus's incarnation. And although Jesus isn't physically there, Culiano said something like, because the burning Thorn, the burning bush. A lot of theologians believe, with evidence that it was a burning thorn bush. So it wasn't just a bush, it was a thorn bush. And if you think about Jesus on the cross with a crown of thorns around his head, Michael made the connection and said he believes that. That Jesus putting the crown of thorns on his head was a declaration, a proclamation that I am the fire in the burning bush. Jesus, the Holy Spirit, the all consuming fire. Jesus, the Holy Spirit is an all consuming fire and he engulfs us in his flames, but he never burns us up. While he consumes us completely. We are never burned up.
Ari
Yeah. Yeah. So good.
Angela
I love you, Jesus.
Ari
The refining can feel so painful, but it will never burn us up. Yeah.
Angie
And Jesus is always. He's always on a rescue mission. He's on a rescue mission. That's what he does. He's here to rescue free, deliver, set for like, purify. Purify.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
He's. He's the God who rescues.
Ari
So he's the God who sees too.
Angie
And he sees. And he sees you in your suffering. Even when it sounds like he's silent, even when he seems absent and like he's nowhere to be found. Even when you're begging him to take the painful feelings away. He's so in it with you. And every moment he does not enjoy your suffering. He cries with you, he hurts with you. But every moment he's involved, saying, they might have to suffer, but they will not suffer in vain. Something beautiful will come out of this. So can I tell you something that.
Ari
I do real quick?
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
Because you said when you're suffering, you can always call on them. It's so simple. And it's such a simple thing, but sometimes I'll be like, God, will you. Can you just. Can I put my hat.
Angela
This is crazy.
Ari
I don't know, but it's such a. It's. It's something that I do that's so comforting. I'll be like, will you just put your head on my shoulder? Like, I literally will say that. And I will. I will feel this comfort and I'll just go like this. And it's like all of a sudden, like when I'm in that grief or I'm in my. That pain, and I just am talking to him like, like my. He's our Father. Like, we can talk to him with these things. Like. And I literally will be like, will you rub my head?
Angela
I really. And it's like, guess what? He's rubbing your head.
Ari
He's rubbing my head. And I just. It's this like sweet. And I swear it's been like this for two years. Like these sweet moments and then all of a sudden I can breathe easier and then I feel joy and then the peace comes and overtakes me and sometimes I have to do that 10 times a day. Like really sometimes. But in when. When you commune with him like that, like a father and you do that those like treat him as a father, will you rub my head? Will you. You can breathe easier and I promise that you always. The thing about Jesus is he's the one person that you can call out to. Who else? Who else can you call out to? And he will always respond. So just remember that.
Angela
It's my dog.
Ari
Love you are. Love you.
Angie
May the Lord bless you and keep you guys. May he make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you. May he turn his face towards you and give you peace.
Ari
Shalom. Shalom.
Angie
Perfect peace in Jesus name.
Ari
I love you guys.
Hosts: Angela Halili and Arielle Reitsma
Episode Release: November 21, 2025
In this heartfelt and candid episode, Angela and Arielle dive into the story of Moses and the burning bush (Exodus 3:1-10), exploring themes of God’s rescue, calling, and presence in the midst of suffering and ordinary life. The hosts reflect on how God often calls and meets people in unexpected, inconvenient, or even painful circumstances—emphasizing the personal and compassionate character of God. They share their own "burning bush" moments, stories marked by profound encounters that redirected the course of their lives, and encourage listeners to recognize and respond to such moments in their own walks of faith.
“We went to get fruity to get smoothies, and there's a fish sandwich, fish stick and a Snapple.”—Angie ([09:53])
"Moses wasn’t a hero. He was a man that was hiding...again who's not a hero, he's nobody special. Just a shepherd..."—Angie ([15:47])
“Spiritual life is all the time, everywhere. God is everywhere. He’s involved in everything.”—Angie ([22:18])
“God did not speak until Moses stopped and was aware and curious...revelation meets attention. True spirituality begins with noticing.”—Angie ([24:10])
“The God who delivers...but it could also be the God who sees, the God who is near, the God who cares..."—Angie ([24:10])
"You don’t just become a Christian so that you can have cool times with Jesus. You become a Christian to be on mission..."—Angie ([28:10])
"God grabbed my attention so strongly. It was persistent...and it interrupted my whole life."—Angie ([33:32])
"He does not call the qualified. He qualifies the called."—Ari ([43:23])
"He’s always making a way. He’s always doing something, even when you can’t see it..."—Ari ([45:15])
“I know it’s Jesus when he wants to interrupt my comfort...God...doesn’t care about our comfort. He cares about our character.”—Angie ([51:30])
"...Jesus putting the crown of thorns on his head was a declaration...‘I am the fire in the burning bush’..."—Angie, citing Michael Kanos ([53:25])
"He’s so in it with you. And every moment, He does not enjoy your suffering, He cries with you, He hurts with you..."—Angie ([55:36])
On God’s choice of Moses:
"God chose this man who is so disqualified, who’s so unqualified, who’s so full of shame and lacking identity, and goes, 'you’re perfect because My power is made perfect in your weakness.'" —Angie ([28:54])
On revelation requiring attention:
"God did not speak until Moses stopped and was aware and curious...true spirituality begins with being aware of God, what he’s doing, when he’s speaking." —Angie ([24:10])
On God’s relentless rescue:
"Jesus, literally, we make messes and God cleans them up. That's crazy." —Angie ([48:03])
On obedience in hard moments:
"I could have, you know, went the whole other way. But just blindly being obedient and letting God lead me in my life to the call that he had for me through the most just broken, inconvenient season of my life." —Ari ([43:23])
On discomfort and growth:
"Discomfort is where we grow. Suffering is where we grow." —Angie ([52:53])
On God’s presence in pain:
"When you commune with Him like that, like a Father...you can breathe easier and I promise that you always—the thing about Jesus is He’s the one person that you can call out to. Who else can you call out to? And He will always respond." —Ari ([57:46])
Angela and Ari wrap up with a blessing for the audience and a reminder that God is a rescuer, ever-present in suffering, and relentless in his love and deliverance. The episode leaves listeners both encouraged and challenged to look for God in ordinary life, to be open to His interruptions, and to respond in faith—even, and especially, when it leads out of their comfort zone.
Tone: Candid, warm, uplifting, faith-filled—consistent with the hosts’ everyday, honest, and encouraging style.
If you are new to Girls Gone Bible, this episode is an excellent entry point for understanding how Angela and Ari weave biblical teaching with authentic personal stories—always returning to the deep, practical goodness of God for every listener.