Five-Year Engagements and “Millennial Cringe” with Kate Steinberg and Chad Savage

Summary

Girls Gotta Eat – "Five-Year Engagements and 'Millennial Cringe'"

Podcast: Girls Gotta Eat (Dear Media)
Episode Date: October 13, 2025
Guests: Kate Steinberg & Chad Savage
Summary by: Podcast Summarizer AI

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Episode Overview

In this engaging, candid episode, hosts Ashley Hesseltine and Raina Greenberg welcome their LA friends and influencer couple Kate Steinberg and Chad Savage. The conversation traverses the couple's unique reality TV origin story, the challenges (and quirks) of a five-year engagement, behind-the-scenes influencer life, and the much-memed "millennial cringe." Kate's viral millennial nostalgia content, boundary setting in relationships and work, therapy, mental health, and the dynamics of posting politics as influencers all get a real talk spotlight, blending humor with authenticity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Taylor Swift Album Hot Takes (03:02–09:19)

• Both hosts share their thoughts on Taylor Swift's latest album, noting its sexual tone shift and upbeat pop sounds.
• Ashley highlights the relatability of Swift's lyrics and theme of self-confidence in love:

  "I found this love that allows me to be the best version of me..." (04:35)

• Quick aside to discuss how artists—and themselves and their own show—evolve, and the importance of letting creators and communities grow:

  "I appreciate that our audience has allowed us to grow up. I hate when people say 'this changed.' It’s supposed to." – Raina (08:12)

2. Healthcare Horror Stories (09:22–19:36)

• The hosts trade stories about getting alarming STD/U.T.I. notifications and mishandled test results—relatable moments of medical anxiety and miscommunication:

  "Don’t get me fucking started on the way they deliver some of this news." – Ashley (11:03)

• Anecdotes about sexual health, reactions from family (in one case, a mother misreading paperwork and declaring chlamydia over the phone), and a comedic reminder to always pee after sex.

3. Chaotic Roommate & Laundry Mishaps (19:36–21:38)

• Rayna shares a story about her friend Jackie accidentally washing and drying an entire pack of cigarettes, spreading tobacco everywhere—a mess that becomes an extended metaphor for adulting disappointment and "nightmares unlocked."
• Laughs about the “anti-smoking campaign” potential of the experience, but affirmation, "I will learn nothing from this." (18:26)

4. Vibes Only Product Launch Announcement (21:38–24:22)

• The hosts introduce their new sex toy (the "Scarlet") and the "Suck and Blow" gel, emphasizing innovation in their brand and participation from their audience in naming products.

5. Introducing Kate & Chad: Reality TV Love Origin (30:20 onwards)

• Their start:
  Kate and Chad met on HBO Max’s "12 Dates of Christmas," a Covid-era reality dating show filmed in Austria (33:36–38:10).
• Notable Quote:

  "I remember going to producers and being like, I don’t want any scenes in bed." – Kate (35:51)

• Unlike many reality TV couples, they avoided physical intimacy on camera, citing family and career reasons, and shared a strong friendship-turned-romance.
• Chad reflects on "forgetting how to talk/eat/walk" from nerves in the beginning and being "grounded" by Kate (33:49–38:31).

6. From Engagement to Five-Year Fiancees (42:49–48:02)

• After the show, they spent months on FaceTime due to lockdown, deepening their connection before living together (42:02–43:08).
• Reflections on the rush of reality TV engagements versus building real-life partnership, therapy, and the honesty of not rushing into marriage.

• "The first engagement was us just really taking a chance on each other. ...Real life hits, and we, like, we've had a ton of ups and downs. ...But the biggest thing that always makes me proud of us is we're still together, and we just, like, make it work." – Chad (43:08–43:44)

• Discussion of pressures over waiting years to formally wed; both reinforce waiting felt natural, especially for personal growth and stability.

7. Millennial Content, Nostalgia, and “Cringe” (54:03–62:46)

• Kate talks about her successful content brand, built on millennial nostalgia (American Girl dolls, Hollister jackets, old snacks, etc.), and how she sources "museum" props from eBay/Poshmark and her parents’ basement (54:47–56:53).
• Navigating “millennial cringe” discussion—Kate's content is celebratory, not mocking, and she shares her thoughts on intergenerational ribbing on TikTok:

  "What am I supposed to be, Beach? I'm trying to act like I'm 22? That's cringe. I'm acting my age." – Ashley (59:42)

• Both hosts and Kate reject the notion of shaming other generations, noting the healthiness of self-awareness, growth, and boundaries.

• "I’m a millennial. I'm proud of the life that I built...and I am older than Gen Z and I'm proud of it." – Raina (59:06–59:40)

8. Influencer Couple Life: The Good, The Boundaries, The Anxiety (63:59–76:54)

• "Influencer in the Home" viral content: Chad’s viral series parodying influencer/partner dynamics is discussed, along with the importance of finding humor and balance.
• Candid stories about filming dangerous viral challenges (Nicki Minaj, Bugatti, etc.), boundary issues with work-life ("phones down by 7pm"—never really works), and the value/struggle of collaborating as a couple.
• Therapy and open communication highlighted as crucial tools.
• Both share struggles with anxiety, especially around negative feedback/social media, and note how they support each other and create space to process online challenges.

  "I have anxiety all day. Like, all day, all day long." – Kate (75:29)

9. Posting About Politics & Authenticity with a Platform (69:10–73:53)

• Chad shares the couple's careful approach to speaking on serious issues, balancing positive vibes with authentic, necessary statements ("love, kindness for everyone"). Kate expresses pride in Chad for taking a stand, and the group reflects on bravery and responsibility when influencing online.

  "It can be really hard to do that when you also have another person...and your livelihood depends on each other now." – Raina (72:34)

10. Adopt, Don’t Shop: The Animal Rescue Plug (81:55–83:17)

• Kate shares her passion for pet adoption and highlights dogs in need from the Lang Foundation, especially 14-year-old beagle Brady.
• The show's closing message:

  "Adopt, don’t shop is the best, best message that we could end on." – Ashley (83:42)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "You're still a slut." – Ashley to Raina, about evolving show content, (08:11)
• "There was one time, like, the cameras were down, and I had a quick second to tell him...I really like you, but my brothers are watching. And that's how he knew." – Kate (36:45–36:57 & [top of episode])
• "It's brutal. This is what I imagine having children to be like. Just every day, something expensive is broken." – Raina (18:57)
• "This is a sign from the universe...to not let Jackie do my laundry." – Raina (18:30–18:33)
• "We are one of the very rare couples...It’s real, people do stay together." – Kate, on surviving reality TV (42:30)
• "We were pass holders. We can lay one down." – Chad, re: Disney expertise (40:15)
• "If there’s a core to most religions, it’s be kind, treat others well. You guys embody that." – Ashley (71:41)
• "I want people to know—99% of the day, I think I'm a squid. I'm really hard on myself." – Kate (76:54)
• "Adopt, don't shop. That's my big mission in life." – Kate (83:07)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Taylor Swift Album Reactions: 03:02–09:19
• Medical Mishaps & UTI/STD Stories: 09:22–19:36
• Laundry/Cigarette Disaster: 16:38–19:36
• Vibes Only Product Launch: 19:38–24:22
• Kate & Chad Introduction & Reality TV Backstory: 30:20–43:08
• Life Post-Engagement & Reality TV: 42:49–48:02
• Millennial Nostalgia Content/Cringe: 54:03–62:46
• Influencer Couple Dynamics & Mental Health: 63:59–76:54
• Posting about Politics & Authenticity: 69:10–73:53
• Adopt-Don’t-Shop & Pet Rescue Spotlight: 81:55–83:17

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Final Thoughts

The episode weaves comedy with vulnerability, offering an honest look at evolving in public—whether in relationships, careers, or online personas. Kate and Chad's relationship is both a reality TV rarity and a modern love story, marked by transparency, therapy, and mutual growth. The hosts and guests are unafraid to poke fun at themselves, reject generational shame, and advocate for self-acceptance and animal rescue.
Listeners can find Kate at @itskatesteinberg and Chad’s watches at danielsavagewatch.com.

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Message to Listeners:
“Adopt, don’t shop. Be proud to act your age, evolve with your friends, and don't take yourself too seriously—except when it comes to being kind.”

Transcript

[Kate Steinberg]

There was one time, like, the cameras were down, and I had a quick second to tell him, I really like.

[Ashley Hess]

You, but my brothers are watching.

[Kate Steinberg]

And then that was it. And that's how he knew.

[Ashley Hess]

This podcast is a Dear Media production.

[Raina Greenberg]

Hi, guys.

[Ashley Hess]

Hi, guys.

[Raina Greenberg]

Welcome back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat.

[Ashley Hess]

Welcome back. Where do we even start?

[Kate Steinberg]

I don't know.

[Raina Greenberg]

So much has happened and we didn't have a snack on Thursday, so we.

[Ashley Hess]

Are recording this a little far out for us. We were just in New York. My tour's over. My life of a showgirl's over. And we'll talk about it this week on the snack. If there's anything to say, whatever. Yeah, but we didn't do the snack last week, so we didn't get to talk about life of a showgirl. We are recording this the day the album came out. Well, it came out last night for us. 9pm how blessed did you feel at.

[Raina Greenberg]

9Pm last night that you got to turn that on? I was like, the rest of the world. I was like, there wasn't that much content about it yet. So it was like 9, 10. And I was like, there's not that much. People are listening.

[Ashley Hess]

People are listening. Yeah. So this is so dated. This is embarrassing. Like, by the time this comes out, it will be 10 days. 10 days. But you guys are still listening. Like, that's not some flash in the pan. If you're a fan, you're still listening to the album and we have thoughts. We just.

[Raina Greenberg]

We needed to be on record at some point.

[Ashley Hess]

We need to. I know. Like, we were like, do we even bring it up? I'm like, it's going to be fine. You guys still care, right? If you don't, then people stay care. Skip ahead.

[Raina Greenberg]

If you people bought that cardigan, they care.

[Ashley Hess]

Not the cardigan.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's just like, it's too much. We did cardigan in 20.

[Ashley Hess]

People are going to be mad.

[Raina Greenberg]

People are mad.

[Ashley Hess]

They got mad about the snack.

[Raina Greenberg]

People said that. Well, I got this message that said if people were talking shit on Beyonce, Ashley wouldn't have stood for it. And you stood for. You stood for shit talk on Taylor. And I was like, that wasn't shit talk.

[Ashley Hess]

I also said Beyonce's perfume. I dragged Beyonce into it.

[Raina Greenberg]

And if people want that cardigan, get your bag, girl. You know, cardigan up.

[Ashley Hess]

Someone said, listen, I don't know. I'm not a swifty, so I don't know everything there is to know. People said, there's a cardigan every album. What? People said, there's a cardigan for every album. This one just looked particularly itchy.

[Raina Greenberg]

That is so dorky. That is some dork ass shit. But, you know, I stuck up for the movie. I said she provided a great experience for people. I mean, there's a hole in my heart where the eras to her left. It's the saddest thing in the world to me. I didn't go more than once. Okay, we can move on from this. But we. I just. We had a great night listening to it. We're gonna thank our partners. We're gonna get into it. I have, like, fun stories to tell you. We have such a fun episode.

[Ashley Hess]

We're already probably so triggered up. Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

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[Ashley Hess]

Built.Com GGE and thank you to Neutrful. Get $10 off your first month subscription and free shipping at nutrafool.com with code GGE10. And thank you to smart mouth. Get a special discount on your next smart mouth purchase at smartmouth.com/GGE. And thank you to Liquid IV. Get 20 off your first order at Liquid I.com with code GGE. So, yeah, so I mean, I feel, like, embarrassed to even talk about this, knowing that it's, like, on my mind right now and in 10 days. But I still want to share my thoughts on this album. I love this album. I knew I would. I said it. I was like, I feel like this is going to be more my style, a little more upbeat, a little more poppy. And as an eldest daughter and as a showgirl myself, as a performer and as someone who was marrying their number one fan, it speaks to me. It is her horniest album. When she said my dick's bigger, I had to run it back. I was like, she did not say because my dick's bigger.

[Raina Greenberg]

When she said, open my thigh. Open my thigh. I actually, like, did a. I was like, I did not hear that correctly.

[Ashley Hess]

But Rayna, okay, my dick's bigger.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like.

[Ashley Hess]

She does have, like, a huge kid fan base.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's a real thing. So, I mean, even the photography around this, it was so spicy. The outfit's really spicy. I knew it was gonna be just, like, more amped up, more poppy, more energy. More edgy. And, you know, it really. I was listening to her talk, give an interview, and it really spoke to me where she said, you know, I found this love that allows me to be the best version of me, the most me that I can be, and allows me to stand taller and just be more confident. And who could be more confident than Taylor Swift? But it's so relatable to be like, I found this person, and they have, like, released me to be an even better version of myself and embrace her sexuality.

[Ashley Hess]

Like, she's never been sexual really, at all. And it's not like it's overly sexual, but there are these references and these mentions that I'm like, is she gonna say it at the concert with the little girls there? I can't stop thinking about it.

[Raina Greenberg]

She said Magic Stick. She said coke. She mentioned coke on an album. Like a rapper.

[Ashley Hess]

So that song, though, Father Figure, I can't get out of my head. I love it. I was just reading articles. What's it about? People say it's about her early days in the music industry. I have never really heard a song like this sung by a woman. I'm still processing. This is the day the album dropped. So these are just initial thoughts, but I love it. I love Wishlist, I love Wood, I love Cancelled, and I love Elizabeth Taylor.

[Raina Greenberg]

Love.

[Ashley Hess]

I have not seen people say it's their fave. When she said Elizabeth Taylor, I am losing it.

[Raina Greenberg]

The second half of the album is my favorite. So all those songs you listened. All of the songs you listed.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay. I love the Fate of Ophelia. Elizabeth Taylor's track Too Foul Figures. Track four.

[Raina Greenberg]

I mean, you know me. I need to, like, listen a few more times and drive around and listen to it and digest it. But overall, I'm just. I'm thrilled with it. I'm thrilled with, like, the look and the vibe around it, like the photography. And it's just. It's fun. I'm just. I'm a concert so bad. Like, dying for a concert.

[Ashley Hess]

Ruin the friendship. Probably my least fave.

[Raina Greenberg]

Well, I wanted it to be Bob Lake.

[Ashley Hess]

Well, people are saying canceled. Is that kind of coded that she's still friends with her? I don't know. Again, I can't stress how weird I feel that this is ten days from now. This is going to come out. I know, but I just wanted to, you know, be on record. And I love it. And I'm seeing the side of TikTok that doesn't like it. And they're like, these lyrics are trash, and it's just like, she has so much range. Like, this is not the tortured poets department, which was like this lyrically dense two hours. This is 41 minutes of fun.

[Raina Greenberg]

And we talked about like during COVID she released Folklore and it was really melodic folk type music that I would like lay on the couch at night and cry when I was by myself in the corner.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, I was riding through the woods totally on my bike. Like, Eli Rowley did a great reel that she just posted about. If you're really a fan, you can like respect the range. And I think of that with Beyonce. I mean, it's crazy what Beyonce did from with a house album to a country album. And I'm a fan for life And Renaissance was not my favorite album. And I loved Cowboy Carter. Like, it's just. It's the same kind of thing. Thing. Like I. I'm not mad about it. Like, I. I think it's people that are really saying mean things. I'm like, man, you don't sound like a true fan.

[Raina Greenberg]

I just, I think about the ability to let any artist evolve and change. And I think about the beginning of our show and this is our eight year friendship anniversary of you and I meeting this week and seven and a half years in business together and touring and all this. And I think about what the content was when we first started. And it was a lot more like slut stories and acting crazy and getting drunk. And I was much more like fast and loose with the information. I. And you know, eight years later, I am more private. I'm entitled to be. I'm older. I think that I've grown up and changed. Some of these stories are going to be slut stories. So I have a slutty story to tell you today.

[Ashley Hess]

You're still a slut.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah, a lot of sex this year. But like, I like, I appreciate that our audience has allowed us to grow up. And I hate when I see people be like this changed. And it's like, but it's supposed to.

[Ashley Hess]

That's the point. You've changed. Yeah, that's the point. I think these real true Taylor Swift fans can at least appreciate all of her work and what the album signified at the time and where the state of the world and I. I don't know. So it's just like, yeah, the. The. My least fave was probably the tortured post department, which people who are so obsessed with her songwriting, that was probably their favorite.

[Raina Greenberg]

I'm assuming I'm just not like an Easter egg girly. Like, I don't go that Hard on her. I. People that, like, are really hard on that. Loved that album because they're like, what does this mean about this and this and this? And.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, it.

[Raina Greenberg]

I. It's not. Not for me. I liked it. I like the songs. I saw it in concert. It was great. But, like, I like something more upbeat.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. I mean, I just still. People are panning the. The songwriting and the lyrics on this, and they're still getting me. Like, she still is in a league of her own with her lyrics.

[Raina Greenberg]

Absolutely.

[Ashley Hess]

Anyway. All right, that's our take.

[Raina Greenberg]

Well, I told you, this is my season of going to the doctor, so.

[Ashley Hess]

I went to the this doctor medical era. Okay, tell me what happened.

[Raina Greenberg]

So I went to the gynecologist, and.

[Ashley Hess]

She was like, ooh, if you are.

[Raina Greenberg]

If there was a soundtrack for you're 40 now, that was disappointment. She was just like, supplements and protein and hormone tests, and I really just wanted to get my IUD changed. I currently get my period. I have the copper iud, and I want to get the hormonal one. And I was just like, can we just, like, toss that up there today? And she was like, aw, cutie. So she did, like, a blood panel. She did, like, five tubes of blood. We're doing hormone tests. I'm gonna go back, get a mammogram and an ultrasound and just make sure, like, everything is functioning great. We did a breast exam. Everything's great. But she was like, do you want STD panel? And I was like, yes, I do. And so yesterday morning, I get this email. No subject line is like, you have an std.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

And I listen a lot of. I'm not shaming people that have STDs. A lot of people have gotten these emails. But I was like, oh, everyone is.

[Ashley Hess]

Gonna react to that. Let's just be clear. No one's like, whoopee.

[Raina Greenberg]

But, like, I was like. My life flashed before my eyes for who I was gonna have to tell.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

And I was like, oh, no.

[Ashley Hess]

Oh, you're gonna be ethical about it. You really have to.

[Raina Greenberg]

Honestly, I would be so afraid to tell this particular person that I might not tell them. Not for my safety, but for a lot of reasons.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

Because he would talk about it publicly.

[Ashley Hess]

Oh, yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

It was a uti.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

And I don't know why they put it like that in the subject line. Because it was a uti.

[Ashley Hess]

Don't get me fucking started on the way they deliver some of this news.

[Raina Greenberg]

Ashley, I. Listen, I cannot stress this enough. I know tons of people that are dealing with STDs and have managed it with medicine and have had to be brave and tell people I did that I would have moved out of this country before telling this particular. That I gave him an std. Telling you that I gave him an std. This said you at a uti.

[Ashley Hess]

I would have given it to you, though.

[Raina Greenberg]

Well, you know, the guy before that probably.

[Ashley Hess]

Oh, my God.

[Raina Greenberg]

No.

[Ashley Hess]

I had a situation. Do you remember this? I remember being in New York and I was leaving the studio to be on the phone, my doctor, because she wouldn't call me back. I had a thing happen where they told me news about my body and the way that it was delivered. It was alarming.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yes.

[Ashley Hess]

Like, this could be cancerous kind of stuff. And then I called and the wires got crossed and someone told me, you have to come in today. I, like, fell to the floor. And that was not what. I didn't have to come in today. It took a good. I feel like it was 24 hours. I was panicking. I remember for my doctor to call me back and just be like, oh, this is like, no big deal. And I was like, you guys gotta figure your shit out. This was like, not okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

I know. And my appointment was like, at 11 o' clock, and they emailed me the next morning. And I appreciate how fast it was, but the way it said potential std. I. All day long, I kept feeling like, why do I feel so sick? And then I'd be like, oh, right. I'm still, like, so triggered from this, this morning.

[Ashley Hess]

Well, you. You know my story. I'll tell it again while we're here. When I was in the summer, 2005, and that was my last summer, living in Dewey beach with my girlfriends. And I just graduated college and I got home from college and I went to the gyno and did a whole thing that did the lab test and got a full panel, whatever. And then I was living at the beach and I remember being, like, pretty drunk. I was hanging out with Cory and Corey and we were buzzed up, getting ready to go out, and my mom called and she was like, hey, you got some mail here. One came from LabCorp or whatever, what's it called now when they do the lab test.

[Raina Greenberg]

LabCorp is one Quest diagnostic.

[Ashley Hess]

Same kind of thing, whatever. Because Quest and Ox, we have function today. So that's why I was trying to think of it. She was like, do you want me to open it? And I was like, yeah, whatever. Like, I'm like, all have. You know, I've been drinking. And she opened It. And I was like, yeah, open it. Let me know what it says. I'm sure it's fine. You know, I'm 20, 21. I'm 22. I'm like, I'm fine. She opened it up, and she was just like, oh, well, it says here you have chlamydia.

[Raina Greenberg]

I would rather anybody deliver that information to me besides my mom.

[Ashley Hess]

My mom.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah, well, maybe my dad. My dad's the last.

[Ashley Hess]

Yes, your dad's actually worse. So I go, what? And at that age also, that's like a death sentence. Like, now you're like, it's.

[Raina Greenberg]

Take a couple pills.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. And it's just not a big deal. I mean, you can decide what's a big deal for you. But I wouldn't have reacted today the way I did at 22. Also, I'm probably trying to fuck somebody that night. I'm already on my way to chlamydia. I'm one foot out the door, and I remember she was like, oh, I think I've had that. Your mom?

[Raina Greenberg]

Yes.

[Ashley Hess]

And I was like, mom? And then she was like, oh, wait, wait. I misread it. It says you got tested for chlamydia. It's negative. And she walked it back, and I was fine.

[Raina Greenberg]

But, like, learn how to read before you deliver medical information. First read the whole piece of paper.

[Ashley Hess]

That was the summer I had reoccurring bv.

[Raina Greenberg]

Also very common.

[Ashley Hess]

I had to go meet this doctor at her house for an applicator. It was a whole mess.

[Raina Greenberg]

So my other. One of my other girlfriends was like, yeah, I got an email that also said, you have an std. And it was bv. Like. It's just. Why is this the subject line?

[Ashley Hess]

All right, so how's your uti?

[Raina Greenberg]

It's fine. I went and got. I picked up meds at the store last night.

[Ashley Hess]

Did you know you had one? Were you feeling some type of way?

[Raina Greenberg]

No, but I didn't pee after sex, and I did have a lot of sex, and so it does track.

[Ashley Hess]

You are really gatekeeping right now.

[Raina Greenberg]

What?

[Ashley Hess]

That's.

[Raina Greenberg]

That's on that. What if I could say his name? Well, the last time.

[Ashley Hess]

The last time you gatekeeped, that was when you.

[Raina Greenberg]

I also had a uti.

[Ashley Hess]

Yes.

[Raina Greenberg]

I watch that clip all the time of you guys.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. If you guys don't know, like, really funny moment where I was like, rand of the People, want to know what happened? And she was like, I got a uti. So same.

[Raina Greenberg]

So same height. Here we are, the same height.

[Ashley Hess]

We're back here.

[Raina Greenberg]

We are back.

[Ashley Hess]

I get different guy because that other guy, like we said, is in jail. This guy, this should be in jail.

[Raina Greenberg]

If he went to jail for white. Real white collar crime, you could see it a little, right?

[Ashley Hess]

All right, so what else? You had another story.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay, so this is so crazy. I. Oh, my God, I had such a morning. So Jackie is staying with me.

[Ashley Hess]

Jackie every week. Should we have fun on podcast? I feel like she's one of those friends that's like, people would want to hear from because we bring up all the time.

[Raina Greenberg]

You guys see her on my Instagram story a lot. Ashley and I both went to Greece with her, and her and I were in the Hamptons for Labor Day weekend. She's just on my stories a lot. She stays with me a lot. So she, last night came home, she had this like, little like, bachelorette party dinner or whatever, and I was drinking on the couch. We were both drunk when she got home. And I like, go to go to sleep at like midnight. And she was like, can I do my laundry? And I was like, you really gotta do this right now? Outside my bedroom door. You gotta do laundry.

[Ashley Hess]

Oh, right.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's right there.

[Ashley Hess]

Doing laundry at midnight, that's like college kid behavior.

[Raina Greenberg]

She was like, I have yoga class in the morning. I have these leggings. They've just been like, up in my vagina for a week. I gotta wash them. I was like, okay, it's like 12 o'.

[Chad Savage]

Clock.

[Raina Greenberg]

You really gotta do this right now. She's like, I'll put your stuff in too. I was like, okay. But then you gotta. You gotta put it in the dryer. Cause like, I don't want stuff sitting. Sitting wet for seven hours in the washing machine. So you got to put in the dryer when you're done. So she.

[Ashley Hess]

At one in the morning? Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

I'm like, this is your problem. I'm going to bed. I go to bed. I wake up this morning to maybe the worst text message I've ever woken up to.

[Chad Savage]

What?

[Raina Greenberg]

8:00Am I think you left a pack of cigarettes in an item of clothing. I was like, what is she saying to me?

[Ashley Hess]

There's already so much to unpack.

[Raina Greenberg]

And then it comes rushing back to me. Last week in New York, Melanie and I were like, stumbling home, and I was like, I want a pack of cigarettes. And I bought a pack of cigarettes. I smoked one cigarette and I lost the pack. I have no idea where it went. And when I was leaving our friend's place that I stayed at, I cleaned it top to bottom. Cause I didn't want to really come home to a mess, Whatever. And I never found the pack of cigarettes. And I never knew where it went. And I was just like, whatever. It belongs to the earth now. And what I must have done was thrown it in my suitcase in between some stuff, put more clothing on top of it. Was, when I got home a couple days ago, I must have just grabbed it by accident, like, under a sweatshirt and tossed it into my laundry bag. And Jackie, last night in the dark, was doing laundry and tossed a full pack of cigarettes in my washing machine. Actually, the amount of that even happened. And then she just, like, didn't notice when she, like, put it in the dryer. There are. I don't know how many. How many cigarettes are in a pack? 21.

[Ashley Hess]

There was 20.

[Raina Greenberg]

Butts, paper everywhere, the whole pack. Tobacco fucking everywhere. I vacuumed out my dryer this morning.

[Ashley Hess]

Like, did it ruin your clothes?

[Raina Greenberg]

There's just stuff everywhere. There's 20 cigarettes of tobacco just everywhere. And the cigarette butts, like, didn't dissolve. There's just paper on all over everything. Yeah, it smells. And I had to get, like, an extension to my vacuum and stick it down in the filter into the dryer. Cause there's so much tobacco in it right now.

[Ashley Hess]

Well, this is what you get. I bet you're gonna stop smoking cigs now.

[Raina Greenberg]

This will not stop me. I will learn nothing from this.

[Ashley Hess]

This is a sign from the universe.

[Raina Greenberg]

To not let Jackie do my laundry.

[Ashley Hess]

Oh, my God.

[Raina Greenberg]

I will learn nothing from this. Do you ever see that meme that says, like, I just did a chore that I've been avoiding for six months and it took three minutes, and I will learn nothing from this, so.

[Ashley Hess]

But you might have done this too.

[Raina Greenberg]

I might have. You know I didn't. No, it's like.

[Ashley Hess]

It's just. You pushed it to the point where Jackie finished the job, but you could have done this yourself. But that is brutal.

[Raina Greenberg]

This is also what I imagine, like, wak up to a text at 8am that, like, the thing that is really expensive is broken. This is what I imagine having children to be like, just seven days a week. Just every day, somebody has something expensive. You walk downstairs and someone is colored on your walls. Like, this is how I know that I'm not built to be a parent. It's just like this for, like, 15 years until they start, like, stealing your car, Right? Exactly. I just. I'm not built for it. The way that ruined my morning. I was having such a cute little morning. I was like, red Lighting my face.

[Ashley Hess]

That is. Yeah, that's really tough. This could be an anti smoking campaign. This is like people's new nightmare Unlocked they never knew existed.

[Raina Greenberg]

It is disgusting.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, that's pretty bad.

[Raina Greenberg]

All right, well, I was excited to tell you these stories.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay, well, we have a fun announcement today. We have some new Vibes only products. We are so excited. Well, one new, one brand new and then one relaunch of a top seller. So we're going to tell you about them.

[Raina Greenberg]

So our number one seller in the company is this toy called the Reyna. It's an airpulse vibe and it's dual ended. So one end sucks and the other end vibrates. And we just thought like, what is the next version of this we can give you guys. And so we want to introduce a toy that we actually had you guys name for the first time. So I'm holding it if you're watching. And there's tons of content on Vibes only our Instagram if you sign up for our newsletter. But this is the Scarlet. It is our newest toy. It is double ended. It is the most elegant looking vibrator I think that we sell. And it has two sensations. So on one end it is going to suck from an air pulse sensation and then the other end vibrates and it's this metal detail that we've never really sold anything that's metal and vibrates like this. Yeah, it's a really interesting sensation against your body.

[Ashley Hess]

And I think obviously most of our toys, with the exception of the Lucy Bullet, are silicone. The highest quality, softest silicone on the market. But people like the sensation of the metal against your body. And if you feel like you don't think you will, I encourage you to try it. Cause I was one of those people and I love it. It's intense and powerful, but it's not too much. And obviously you can set your intensity and your pattern and you can unlock more of those intensities and patterns in our app. But I really love the way it feels. It's really targeted. I love the shape of it. Obviously the color is gorgeous, the suction end, but it's really petite. It's perfect for travel. But yeah, I mean, this is different in a lot of ways for us and we're really excited for you guys to try it out.

[Raina Greenberg]

So it's luxurious and elegant. It's essentially a smaller version of the Raina because it is dual ended. Great for couples play, great for travel. It fits in a clutch.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

So if you need to take it to event with you or something.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

So this is the Scarlet. It'll be [e-mail] starting today. And we have three, three AirPulse vibes on the site. And so you can kind of pick which one you like. And we'll do some content this week about the difference between all three. But this is great for travel, great for couples play, and all of our toys are good for couples play. But the rain is a little big. Yeah. For a couple's toy.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, exactly. Do whatever you want in your. In your relationship, in the bedroom. But this is like, perfect for that. And like we, like we said we had you guys name it for the first time. So I, I think I've named all of our toys. That's kind of my. My job in the company. So I gave this one up to you guys. And we loved that people called it the Scarlet. We did like a contest. And so the winner of that. A few people said that in the comments. A number of people. But the first person in that comment section when we posted this a few months back who said Scarlett is going to win the toy. And it's a perfect name.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's a perfect name. It's a beautiful color.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. Elegant name for an elegant toy. And the color, of course. So we're really excited for you guys to try that out. You can shop it [e-mail] and then another top seller within the company is our Suck and Blow gel. So this is our oral enhancer. You use this during oral sex. It is penis and vulva friendly. And we have an array of flavors ranging from sweet to tart to fruity. And this is the sugar cookie. So we put this out a few years back, blew off the shelves, no pun intended. And actually pun intended. And we bring it back most holiday seasons because you guys just love it so much. Yes.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's going to make you salivate. It's going to have juicier, wetter oral for you guys. And this really kicks off the holiday season for us. For us at Vibes only. So it's a perfect gift for yourself or somebody else.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. So check that out as well. And those are going to go quick. So we just, we love to hear from you guys in how the toys and the products like the Suck and Blow gel have enhanced your sex life. It really means the world the way that people write to us and send us messages about the Suckin Blow Gel. I'm just like, oh, my God, we are doing the Lord's work.

[Raina Greenberg]

I know. We are improving Relationships around the world. Okay.

[Ashley Hess]

So vibesonly.com and since we're talking about the holidays while we're here, we have holiday shows in New York and la. We are so excited. The only two girls got each shows of the year and we have so much fun stuff playing. I have to talk to you about something too. That possible thing to do with the shows and they're just gonna be bigger, better than ever before. We're really gonna blow it out for those. So you guys can get tickets at girls gotta eat.com and we have such a fun episode today with our friends Kate and Chad. We just love them. And we know you guys really like couples. Good. You know, we've had like a few couples on. You just feel like such a good energy from their relationship. And so we're excited for you guys to hear the episode. Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

But we'll just thank our partners and get right into it with them.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay. So I am telling you guys about smart mouth as I'm drinking coffee. Coffee drinker, Garlic lover. Or just someone who you never want to think twice about your breath. Smart mouth has you covered. So I admittedly was not really a mouthwash girly before, and I mentioned this before, my fiance is obsessed with mouthwash. He just always uses it. And I'm just like, I don't know, I just feel like it's not for me. Like I would use it sometimes. It gives me this aftertaste. And then I discovered smart mouth and I am a mouthwash girly as it turns out. Because I really do love this. And it really gives you 24 hours of fresh breath with just two rinses a day. It is the only mouthwash scientifically proven to do that. The secret is their dual solution, Smart zinc technology. As you pour, the two solutions activate billions of zinc ions that instantly eliminate bad breath and keep it away all day. We just love the science behind this. It is backed by science developed by the dentist who literally wrote the encyclopedia section on bad breath. So you can trust it. What a flex. And it's easy to use with their new snap top bottle. So we have tried all of the products. I've been using the toothpaste as well. We're focused on the mouthwash today. But I'm really loving everything that they do.

[Chad Savage]

And.

[Ashley Hess]

And you know, there's some toothpaste mouthwash brands. Not going to name any names. The most popular ones probably on the market that I just don't like. I just don't like the taste. I never have. I don't like the color. Sometimes it feels unnatural. I don't like the taste they leave in my mouth. So I just am such a fan of this. And this is what we have sitting on our bathroom sink. And they have mouthwash single packs so it's easy to take it on the go in your purse with your scarlet, your luggage or your pocket. Easy to travel with. So never have bad breath again. Find Smart mouth at Walgreens, Walmart and Amazon or visit smartmouth.comdge to snag a special discount on your next smart mouth purchase. So that is www.smart M-O-U t h.com GGE don't miss out on 24 hour fresh breath. Your mouth will thank you.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay, and let's talk about, you know, it's fall, it's getting colder. Let's talk about prioritizing our body and our health.

[Ashley Hess]

Health.

[Raina Greenberg]

Let's talk about function.

[Kate Steinberg]

Health.

[Raina Greenberg]

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[Ashley Hess]

Okay. And this show is sponsored by Liquid iv. Like Graena was just mentioning, we are transitioned from summer to fall. We're in it, we're there, we're in the thick of it. And it is so important to me to stay hydrated. I feel like rest and hydration are the number one things if I'm not hydrated. I feel it in my body, I feel sluggish, I see it in my face, I see it in my skin. So this is something that I really lean on. And I mentioned this before, Liquid Ivy is going to be in my wedding gift bags. Just when everybody who is going to be going hard for four days to really be able to stay hydrated with liquid iv. And it's just these little sticks, packets and you're just going to tear them open, throw them in 16 ounces of water. We like really, really cold water for this. And it is going to be three times the electrolytes of the leading sports drink, plus eight vitamins and nutrients all in that single stick scientifically formulated to help replenish electrolytes and fluids lost from sweat or exercise. And it is 100% daily value of four essential B vitamins and an excellent source of vitamin C. So really all the things super easy to bring with you on the go. Again, there are just these little packets. If you guys, I'm sure at this point you, you are familiar but in case you're not and there is a new product we're telling you about. Liquid IV's energy multiplier. Sugar free hydrating energy. This is going to support your physical energy, hydration, focus, mood, social stamina. That's what you need for four days.

[Raina Greenberg]

A wedding weekend. I'm already like how, how can I budget the alcohol?

[Ashley Hess]

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[Raina Greenberg]

Okay, guys, we are very excited to get into today with our guests and really good friends of ours who we met and have been friends with in LA for years. We just love them so much. She is a huge influencer reality TV star. She makes incredible videos about millennial behavior. And we have her and her fiance, Chad Savage with us today. Please welcome to the show Kate Steinberg. I feel like I didn't say that.

[Ashley Hess]

With a lot like, hey, you crushed it.

[Raina Greenberg]

She said, that's the one that. I'm gonna back that up again. And we have her fiance in the house.

[Ashley Hess]

You're not gonna leave this.

[Chad Savage]

No, you crushed it. That's exactly how I said to you.

[Raina Greenberg]

I like to say it.

[Chad Savage]

You crushed it.

[Raina Greenberg]

Listen. See how this feels, girl. We'll leave it anyways, but crushed it. I have her and her fiance. Please welcome to the show Kate Steinberg and Chad Savage.

[Chad Savage]

Woo.

[Kate Steinberg]

We're so excited.

[Raina Greenberg]

Doesn't that feel better?

[Chad Savage]

Yeah.

[Ashley Hess]

That was newly engaged.

[Chad Savage]

Re engaged. Yes.

[Raina Greenberg]

Don't call it a comeback.

[Kate Steinberg]

Let me see your ring. Oh, yeah, this is fresh. I've only worn it like three times.

[Ashley Hess]

Wait, what are they.

[Kate Steinberg]

Okay, no.

[Chad Savage]

So hit him with the. Hit him with the. Hit him.

[Kate Steinberg]

So the first one, we're going to.

[Raina Greenberg]

Explain to you guys what we're talking about. Cuz this is their second engagement.

[Kate Steinberg]

Second engagement. The first one is a partnership with a brand. Tori. So we designed this ring with them.

[Chad Savage]

Right.

[Ashley Hess]

And then the big.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah, the main one.

[Chad Savage]

Right.

[Kate Steinberg]

And then Chad was like, I want to do something too. So I went to Europe with the ring. Okay. And then Chad wanted to like re propose, but I already had the ring. So then he got me the band.

[Chad Savage]

I jumped ahead a little bit. That's why it doesn't seem like obviously because she's wearing a wedding band. But that's.

[Ashley Hess]

It's a vibe. I love it.

[Kate Steinberg]

It's like I'm. Everyone thinks I'm married.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. Basically you guys have been together.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah.

[Kate Steinberg]

So then Chad's like, what do I do for the wedding day? And I'm like, more diamonds.

[Chad Savage]

Get another band.

[Ashley Hess]

Another band. Wait, so the Tokori one you had before this, that was a partnership place because you lost your engagement ring.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yes.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay. It's still out there from hbo.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

The way that you guys have back up the way. So you guys are a couple and you live together and we're obsessed with.

[Ashley Hess]

Your pets and they took me in with the fires.

[Kate Steinberg]

They did.

[Raina Greenberg]

So if you heard us talk about the LA fires, that's where Ashley went.

[Chad Savage]

That was so much fun by the way.

[Kate Steinberg]

It was at the time.

[Raina Greenberg]

If I wasn't getting blacked out at a hotel getting a massage, I would have been there at your house too.

[Chad Savage]

It was a stressful time.

[Raina Greenberg]

It was. Who knows what we were doing. But the way that you guys met is absolutely insane. You met in a reality TV dating show, which is not the insane part, but it's what the show was, was pretty insane.

[Kate Steinberg]

Well, that's how first we got connected through the show. Because you were the only people reporting on it.

[Chad Savage]

That is the coolest thing actually. That's dope.

[Kate Steinberg]

Nobody else was talking about it except you guys.

[Ashley Hess]

I love that show. Show and we'll talk about it. But I was watching this show because it was still Covid times in 2020 and we were talking about during COVID is when rain and I didn't have anything else going on dating wise. So we started talking about shows we were watching for on our episodes. Like that's really how it all started. And I started talking about the show I was obsessed with and was talking about YouTube but I think. Did I throw a little shade?

[Chad Savage]

Yeah, it probably came my way.

[Raina Greenberg]

No, no, no.

[Kate Steinberg]

It's actually my.

[Chad Savage]

Well, they didn't think.

[Kate Steinberg]

I don't usually year we liked each other because we didn't kiss or like have any physical or romantic.

[Chad Savage]

Tell them about it.

[Ashley Hess]

So tell us about the show.

[Kate Steinberg]

So, okay, so the premise of the show was there's three leads. Chad was one of the leads. There was a bunch of girls coming in for Chad. I rose to the top and I won.

[Raina Greenberg]

What's the name of the show?

[Chad Savage]

That's pretty well said. 12 dates of Christmas and it was.

[Ashley Hess]

On HBO when it was filmed in Austria in Salzburg. And it was different because everyone was together in like one house.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah, it was kind of like a meshing.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Chad Savage]

And it was actually super wild for me too because I as the bachelor. Well, yeah, like I barely took pictures before I like like arrived to this castle. So it was just. I was super overwhelmed. Forgot how to talk, forgot how to eat, forgot to walk. I was like walking around with like. I forgot how to walk. I was like, dude, I was so stiff. I was so stiff. Like if you watch like the first. First couple episodes, it's like I'm walking like this.

[Raina Greenberg]

Did you prep it all for this by watching the Bachelor or other reality dating show? Didn't you were just like.

[Chad Savage]

I was like. I was like, I believe in myself. And then.

[Raina Greenberg]

I don't know how to eat, but I'm going to fuck all these.

[Chad Savage]

And then I get. And then I get there and I'm like, yo, this is bad. I should not be here.

[Kate Steinberg]

You had no social media presence before. Like, you genuinely came in with a hard.

[Ashley Hess]

I know because I was looking everybody up.

[Kate Steinberg]

He had one photo guy, no joke.

[Chad Savage]

The first week I lost 20 pounds. And like, I was. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat. And it was just. I was just. I was fading away. I was withering.

[Kate Steinberg]

And meanwhile, I'm in my room.

[Chad Savage]

They were probably gonna pull me soon. Be like, this isn't working out.

[Raina Greenberg]

That's crazy.

[Kate Steinberg]

But in my room, though, they were feeding me, like the most gluttonous breakfast. Like every morning I'd have like three croissants, a whole tub of Nutella. I'm pretty sure they gave me cereal with whipping cream. I gained so much weight and I was just doing pure push ups in the room because I didn't know what to do because you were just stuck in the room and I was just doing push ups in my shoulders. If you re like, well, you can't watch it. It's gone.

[Ashley Hess]

It is sad that it's gone.

[Chad Savage]

It is sad.

[Ashley Hess]

You know, and you guys recently re watched it and did commentary about it. But okay, so, yeah, so I'm watching the show and I really thought you guys got along really well. I was like, they really seem like buddies and they really genuinely seem like they like each other, but they will not tongue kiss.

[Chad Savage]

She refused. She refused.

[Raina Greenberg]

Was it? Cause it was on television.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

Did you know when you signed up for this show that, like, you might have to kiss somebody on tv?

[Ashley Hess]

Right? I was literally like, have you. Had you guys ever seen a reality?

[Raina Greenberg]

Have you heard of sex before?

[Kate Steinberg]

I remember going to producers and being like, I don't want any scenes in bed. I don't want like.

[Ashley Hess]

I get that though.

[Chad Savage]

Cause like, your brother would be watching.

[Kate Steinberg]

And that was the whole thing. Like, my family's watching. I was working a corporate job. Like, I don't want anyone to know I kissed. And then there was even. There was a scene, like, where we had to talk, like, in bed. I was like, I can't be in bed with him. So they put me at the edge of the bed. Like, I'm like, Chad's, like, laying down him at the end and I'm watching.

[Ashley Hess]

He's like, oh, come on.

[Chad Savage]

You're like, this. No, this ain't it. This ain't it.

[Ashley Hess]

Come on.

[Raina Greenberg]

But you told casting this prior to, like, I won't kiss on tv. And they were like, put her on the show.

[Kate Steinberg]

No, I didn't. It wasn't until after. Like, I really got clammed up.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay, but you probably didn't even think of it until you got, like, would you even think of it?

[Ashley Hess]

Like, that's the thing. I mean, Rain and I talk about everything, our sex lives. But I still. I'm not gonna say I would feel comfortable making out on camera.

[Raina Greenberg]

I'm not doing reality.

[Ashley Hess]

I don't think it's for everybody.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's not for me.

[Chad Savage]

No, no. It was a lot.

[Kate Steinberg]

And there was one time, like, the cameras were down and I had a quick second to tell him. I was like, stuck.

[Ashley Hess]

You're talking about.

[Kate Steinberg]

I know I said. I said, I really like you, but.

[Ashley Hess]

My brothers are watching.

[Kate Steinberg]

And then that was it. And that's how we knew.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah. No, because there were moments. There were moments, like, we had gift giving ceremonies. And I remember because we always.

[Ashley Hess]

Gifts.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah. Remember Christmas?

[Ashley Hess]

It's a Christmas theme show.

[Raina Greenberg]

This show was one of those roses.

[Kate Steinberg]

It was two seasons.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay. Were you in season one or two?

[Kate Steinberg]

One.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

I couldn't remember.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah, so it was. It was. It was pretty wild because it was like, you had to give, like, pros and cons for everybody, which was, like, horrible for me. It was, like, the worst thing ever.

[Raina Greenberg]

And you are. You're both so nice.

[Chad Savage]

It was so hard for me. So, like, one of my cons for you was just that I didn't know if, like, you really liked me because we. We were, like, the only ones at that point to. We, like, hadn't shared our first kiss yet.

[Raina Greenberg]

No.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

So how long is the show? 12 days. It's all 12 days of Christmas.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay. And then you have to decide whether you're going to be together and just get engaged for the first time.

[Kate Steinberg]

They had to shut that show down quickly because it was Covid. So, like, we were in Europe and then, like, Italy was shutting down me.

[Ashley Hess]

When you were filming it, it was.

[Kate Steinberg]

Like, February 28th, and we went into lockdown.

[Ashley Hess]

Like, 2020.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah. And then we went into lockdown, like, March 4th.

[Ashley Hess]

Totally.

[Kate Steinberg]

Right when we came back. I never went back to, like, my corporate job.

[Raina Greenberg]

So you could have kissed on TV we could have.

[Ashley Hess]

Still, the brothers are an issue.

[Chad Savage]

I do want to say one thing, though. It was really, really special about me and Kate with the show. Because that anxiety that I talked to you about, the first whole week, as soon as she came in, like seven days in maybe. And as soon as I had my first date with her, like, she grounded me and I like, I felt better and I could eat again.

[Ashley Hess]

Was it the wrap?

[Chad Savage]

The rap? So, like our first date was in the castle and then was it like, what a sentence? Yeah. And then was it in.

[Kate Steinberg]

The next day was dog sledding.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah, then the rap.

[Ashley Hess]

Then I was like, so she rapped about your cow when you rap.

[Kate Steinberg]

I did. And I like went. It was like a minute long. Like, it was 60 seconds. Like, he's like, oh, can I have a taste? And I like, wouldn't stop.

[Chad Savage]

Oh, yo, she laid it.

[Kate Steinberg]

I like dropped a record and it was like locked eyes. And I'm now like looking back at the. Like, he didn't know where to look. Like he just had to stare at me.

[Chad Savage]

It was so long. And I'm just going like, I'm like.

[Kate Steinberg]

I'm like that little, that little litter scooping little bean diggers in the shitter. And like, J's like, yeah, I mean.

[Chad Savage]

I'm like, I don't know how many times I could do like the wave. You know what I mean?

[Ashley Hess]

I remember this. It was yesterday. Like, this healed me.

[Chad Savage]

I did. And I'm like, yo, I think I've done this five times.

[Kate Steinberg]

But then we kissed after that was our first kiss.

[Raina Greenberg]

He was like, please stop. I'll do anything to stop you.

[Chad Savage]

It was. It was good, though. It was really, really good.

[Ashley Hess]

It was really good. It was really clever. But it's funny because I feel like we always joke on men playing the guitar for women, like in their face, locking eyes, and we don't know how to act. And Kate was like, let me show you.

[Kate Steinberg]

I thoroughly get the, like, I get the ick from myself. Like, thank God the ick was not a thing. Cause that would have been a thing. It was great.

[Chad Savage]

No, it was actually really good.

[Raina Greenberg]

Thank you.

[Ashley Hess]

And I think moments like that, you're like, we're the same kind of weird.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah, we were very much. We. We figured that out about each other very soon. Like, we bonded all our conversations.

[Ashley Hess]

I mean, that's a compliment to me.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay. You guys are Disney adults.

[Chad Savage]

No, for sure. We're very weird together.

[Kate Steinberg]

Are you guys Disney adults?

[Raina Greenberg]

No.

[Ashley Hess]

Kate, you've asked Me this before.

[Raina Greenberg]

Sorry.

[Kate Steinberg]

I know. I feel like I. But you did text. You do want to. You have to come with us to Disney. You got to do the Disney experience with us.

[Raina Greenberg]

The two of you, please.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, we're gonna try to go. I do want to go.

[Raina Greenberg]

Do you have, like, a Kate and Chad Disney Experience Experience?

[Ashley Hess]

We have.

[Kate Steinberg]

We're pass holders.

[Chad Savage]

We can. We can lay one down.

[Raina Greenberg]

You can show us the world.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay.

[Ashley Hess]

Reina.

[Chad Savage]

Oh, I see what you did there.

[Raina Greenberg]

So this morning at my. So Jeremy was staying with me, my friend Jeremy, and he went to Disney this week with our friend Lex Nico. They spent a whole day at Disney together, and he was wearing the Disney shirt around my house, and I was like, you go to the airport in the. And he was like, yeah, so it was a cool T shirt. And I was like, really? Just telling the whole world you're a Disney adult. And he was like. He wore it loud and proud. He was really into it.

[Ashley Hess]

So would you guys consider doing. For the Halloween party I'm having before our wedding, would you guys do a Prince and Princess?

[Chad Savage]

1,000%, actually.

[Kate Steinberg]

Beauty and the Beast.

[Ashley Hess]

I love this.

[Raina Greenberg]

That's rude. That's the first one that came to mind.

[Ashley Hess]

Chad's got broad shoulders. I can see it.

[Chad Savage]

I'll take on the beast. That's cool.

[Ashley Hess]

I like the Beast.

[Raina Greenberg]

Chad's like, I know what I look like.

[Chad Savage]

I got beast energy. That's cool.

[Kate Steinberg]

We've done Troy Bolton and Chad.

[Raina Greenberg]

Chad, would you guys get married at Disney?

[Kate Steinberg]

Yes. I've looked into it, but I.

[Chad Savage]

We've looked into everything. Yeah, we got to actually just pick a route, because we just keep.

[Kate Steinberg]

We've looked I.

[Chad Savage]

Around it.

[Kate Steinberg]

I saw, like, the venue, but I need to know if they serve alcohol, because you can get Mickey Mouse to come in. And I just, like, didn't see any alcohol flowing.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay. And what if Mickey, like, married you?

[Ashley Hess]

Oh, my God.

[Kate Steinberg]

That'd be a dream. Like.

[Raina Greenberg]

She let south park have a.

[Kate Steinberg]

No, I've never seen it.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's really.

[Chad Savage]

I know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah, but we are there.

[Ashley Hess]

Disney and south park adults.

[Chad Savage]

The crossover. The crossover. Yeah. They're out there.

[Ashley Hess]

How about that diagram?

[Raina Greenberg]

It's really problematic. It's Mickey and the Jonas Brothers.

[Kate Steinberg]

It's great.

[Chad Savage]

My mind works that way, too, so respect.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay. So you meet on this reality show, you get engaged, you come back here. The whole world shuts down. Living together in the US when the. Like, during the quarantine.

[Kate Steinberg]

No. So at that point of the show, like, he chose me. Then we just, like, dispersed. He went back to New York, I went to Chicago, and we had to still film the season finale. So we had, like, three months of just FaceTime dates. And that's where like, every night we do, like, a movie date, dinner dates. We did, like, a Jeopardy night with my brothers. They, like, made a Jeopardy board, and, like, we just played over, so it was really fun.

[Chad Savage]

And we got so much closer.

[Raina Greenberg]

Do you guys, like, think about how many people have met a reality TV show and I've broken up, like, most of them?

[Kate Steinberg]

I feel like that's a big thing. When people always hear that, they're like, oh, so it is real. Like, people do stay together. And I'm like, we are one of the very rare couples.

[Raina Greenberg]

You guys did come back and decide to not get married right away. I think you both were like, this.

[Ashley Hess]

Is a little ridiculous.

[Raina Greenberg]

I've known you for 12 days, so I think you were realistic. Like, let's see how this works in the real world.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

This was 2020, and obviously now, five years later, you've, like, re proposed.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah. Right when we got engaged, like, the first thing we did, we, like, looked at each other, and we're like, okay, now we're going to date because we didn't know each other like that. Then Chad comes, moves to Chicago. We move in together. That's the first time I've ever lived with a guy, and I learned a lot about myself.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah, it was a lot. It was a lot quick, and it was like. I feel like the first engagement was, like, us just really taking a chance on each other. And it was like, this is my best friend, and I don't know how it's going to go, but, like, like, let's do it. Like, we can make this work. This is fun. And then real life hits, and we, like, We've had a ton of ups and downs. Like, we've been in therapy. We've been like, yeah, but the biggest thing that always makes me proud of us is we're still together, and we just, like, make it work. And it's not every day is perfect at all. But, no, I love her.

[Raina Greenberg]

You know what I want to see? I want to see a reality show called let's just see how it fucking goes. Shows I know that they need a culmination like the Bachelor. You have to propose to somebody and love is blind. You have to give me, like, I know that, like, there has to be, like, a thing that ends the show, but, like, grow the Fuck up. These people are getting married. It's crazy to met. To marry a person you just met that you've only lived in this castle with.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah, I know.

[Ashley Hess]

It's like, it's luck that it works out, you know, honestly. But. Okay, so you guys have been engaged now for, like, five years. So let's talk about it. Yeah.

[Chad Savage]

Feels good to say, right? It's clean. It's clean.

[Raina Greenberg]

How often have people said to you guys, like, when are you getting married?

[Kate Steinberg]

Every day.

[Raina Greenberg]

And are you like, we just.

[Ashley Hess]

We got engaged like, 12 days after we just met. Well, and we'd say that with no judgment.

[Chad Savage]

No, no, no.

[Ashley Hess]

But you guys are obviously a great couple. And, you know, you're best friends and, like, what. Why would you. What would you answer if someone asked, like, why has it been so long?

[Kate Steinberg]

I think we still had to get to know each other. We still had to build that foundation. Like, it just wasn't there. And I feel like once we moved to la, that was a big shift for us to, like, kind of get off my turf. Like, New York was his, and this was just like a fresh start for us. And I feel like it was like, within the past maybe year and a half. That's when I was really like, I've been always joking about a re proposal with him, but it was like this past year where I really was like, I really want you to re propose. Like, I just feel like so much time has passed from that first one.

[Ashley Hess]

Totally.

[Kate Steinberg]

So now that he's re proposed, now I feel like this proposal was so much more, like, intimate and special. Now I want to, like, really plan a wedding. Which. Where do you begin?

[Raina Greenberg]

Well, you should listen to our episode that we have with Jacqueline Elise, my wedding planner.

[Ashley Hess]

I'll send my wedding planner your way, please. That's where to begin. So that makes so much sense. Like, you guys got engaged on the show, you barely knew each other. Chad had you planned that for a while, like, to do it in Austria?

[Chad Savage]

So, yeah, she has been dropping, like, a re proposal for years, for a couple years. And I never quite, like, understood it until probably, like, towards the beginning of the year, because it was like, that was such a big moment for me. For us, I feel like that was it, you know, that was the crescendo. Then it started hitting me, like, okay, this actually is really important because, like, it's an old chapter, but it's also a new chapter for us.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

I don't think you're supposed to marry a person.

[Ashley Hess]

You just.

[Raina Greenberg]

I think that being together for Five years. It's a little long, I guess, to not be engaged to somebody, but that's many people's journey. I think a lot of people. It's probably like three to four years.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

I mean, five years is not a crazy amount of time to wait. And also, how old are you both? I just want to get that.34. So, I mean, you were really young when you met.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah, right. 28, which.

[Chad Savage]

That's like a lifetime.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Chad Savage]

I had different hair. I had. I had the fro going.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, I look different, too. Were you surprised?

[Kate Steinberg]

Oh, my God. I had no clue.

[Ashley Hess]

Really.

[Kate Steinberg]

I had no. I just happened to wear white that day. So the whole thing was we were going to stay at the Sound of Music Castle. So that morning, we check in. You check into a little clubhouse. And Chad was like, I have to go to the bathroom. And so he goes into the clubhouse and he comes out, he's like, the bathrooms have really tight corners. I have to go in the castle. And I'm like, what do you mean? Like, you. We. We've waited five years to go back to this castle. You can't wait. And he's like, I really have to go.

[Chad Savage]

It was not. It started off rough. Like, it was nerve wracking. Yeah, well, because I. So I planned it for. I probably planned it for like three months before. And same thing with, like, obviously to Cory and working with them behind the scenes for the wedding band. And then we went to Salzburg and we were able to just book one night there. So I really thought, coming into it, I was like, she's going to know. She's definitely going to know. And luckily you were still surprised. So with the bathroom, I had to, like. I was talking to somebody. Yeah, yeah, that too. That too. I was nervous. I was nervous. So I was talking to a videographer. And so I had to go. I had to get a mic under my shirt.

[Ashley Hess]

Yes.

[Chad Savage]

So that's why I went to the bathroom. But I. So there were two parts. There was like, the castle and then the hotel. I went to the wrong bathroom, so I have to go in there. I, like, made this whole big spiel about how I have to go to the bathroom so bad I'm sweating.

[Raina Greenberg]

She's like, I get it.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah. And then I come back out, come back out, and I'm like. And I have to tell her that bathroom wasn't appropriate. Like, that just doesn't. That's not going to work for me. I had to make something up.

[Raina Greenberg]

That's the best you came up with?

[Chad Savage]

I'm like, it's not going to work. It's not going to work in there, you know?

[Ashley Hess]

I see what you're saying. Like, you were like, are you serious? What do you mean you quit? You got too nervous to use that B. I was.

[Kate Steinberg]

I was fuming.

[Ashley Hess]

No, I get it. I was like, what is wrong? Is this the tick I am just now hearing about?

[Raina Greenberg]

Drop the kids off at the pool and let's.

[Chad Savage]

Dude, it was. It was bad.

[Ashley Hess]

That is so funny. He's like, I couldn't use that bad.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah, that bad. Appropriate.

[Chad Savage]

It's not appropriate, but, like, I scoped it out. It's just not gonna work. It's not. It's not to my standards. All right.

[Kate Steinberg]

He scurries into the castle, and I have 10 minutes. And now I'm building up anger in those 10 minutes.

[Ashley Hess]

I can feel this.

[Kate Steinberg]

I'm like. He comes back, his shirt's untucked, and I'm like, tuck your shirt.

[Ashley Hess]

Did he put the mic?

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah, like, tuck your shirt.

[Chad Savage]

And I was like, okay, I will. And she was like, can you do it now? And so I'm like, gingerly, like, weirdly, like, chugging it. Yeah. Trying to not to rip the cord.

[Kate Steinberg]

And I'm shut down at this point. Like, we're walking, holding hands. He's like, remember this place? I'm like, no. He's like, I could turn your day away. Turn your day around, try and. And I had no clue. We're all mic'd up, too. So we have all this audio of me just being so mean.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah. But I like one of out. Like, I have a really long fuse. It takes me a really long time to get there. But, like, once I have shut down, it is so it's hard to pull.

[Ashley Hess]

Me out of it.

[Raina Greenberg]

I'm disappointed.

[Ashley Hess]

Like, it's just, you know, women have this story. Cause the guy's acting weird. He does something weird.

[Chad Savage]

Something's off, something's off.

[Ashley Hess]

He's coordinating stuff, so maybe he's late to it. Like, whatever. Like, I think a lot of women are just like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Like, pull it together.

[Raina Greenberg]

The day I thought I was, maybe I just wanted to get engaged. And he snapped at me. Stop asking me. And I was like, oh, now we're in a fight. He was like, I'll do it in my own time, you know? He likes proposed later that day. So it was that day.

[Kate Steinberg]

It was. Oh, my God.

[Chad Savage]

It was that day.

[Raina Greenberg]

It was that day. I was having a bad day. And he was like, I must have brought up getting Engaged. And he was like, I'll do this in my own time. Like, stop bugging me.

[Ashley Hess]

He's like, as in tonight. Okay, well, congrats to you guys.

[Kate Steinberg]

Thank you.

[Ashley Hess]

The wedding planner.

[Kate Steinberg]

We do need it.

[Raina Greenberg]

We're just going to take a quick break, thank a couple of our partners, and we'll get right back into it with Kate and Chad. I am telling you guys about Quince.

[Ashley Hess]

This is my shirt. It's Quint.

[Raina Greenberg]

Ashley and I love quince.

[Ashley Hess]

Just so you plan it because I'm always wearing it.

[Raina Greenberg]

I am always wearing it too. I mean, I either have the shoes, the bags, the sweaters. And now that it's getting cold out, it is a nice time to upgrade your wardrobe. Get some sweaters. New good fall stuff. Quince is my go to for quality essentials that feel cozy. They look refined no matter what your budget is. And I cannot believe the price of these things. And Ashley and I shop there year round. I do a lot of summer stuff on there as well. But in the winter they have these Mongolian cashmere sweaters. I have the cardigans. I have turtlenecks. I have button downs. I have crewneck. I mean, I have everything. I have all these colors. It's honestly like what I wear all winter to record.

[Ashley Hess]

It's so good. And it's such a like cool girl sweater. Like, you see other girls on the street. You're like, I see you.

[Raina Greenberg]

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[Ashley Hess]

Okay. Can we pivot to your career, Kate?

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah.

[Ashley Hess]

Talk about your millennial brand?

[Raina Greenberg]

Well, you guys met and you guys.

[Ashley Hess]

As an influencer couple, both of you.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yes.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

I mean, we met you because we were fans of you and Ashley, but you met on the Internet.

[Ashley Hess]

I think we started chatting because we talked about her on the podcast. I dmed with a couple of the girls from the show. The other girl.

[Kate Steinberg]

Faith.

[Ashley Hess]

Faith.

[Raina Greenberg]

Faith, yeah.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. And because we had talked about it and then we just stayed in touch and I think I invited you to a Chicago show, but then I think you said, I'm moving to la.

[Raina Greenberg]

I moved to la.

[Ashley Hess]

I was like, we're moving to la. And then we just.

[Kate Steinberg]

We met up at Soho House, and then I came there and then.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah, but your brand is so special and unique and you make these millennial videos. So let's talk about it.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah, I'm obsessed with, like, nostalgia and, like, being a millennial, and I think I get a high off of, like, relating to people. I think that's my biggest thing with, like, the videos is, like, when I see how universal things are. Like, oh, like, I had the Hollister jacket, too, or, like, the low rise jeans. Like, I just. Just love finding those niche ideas and, like, bringing them to life. And then, yeah, I'm kind of. Some people would say cringy. But it's okay.

[Ashley Hess]

We love the brand.

[Raina Greenberg]

I mean, give us. Give us a couple more examples of the content.

[Kate Steinberg]

So right now there's a big, like, resurgence of, like, millennial fashion. So, like, everything you see now at, like, Urban Outfitters or Free People, like, they're. It's just crazy to see things we Wore worn in 2005, and they're completely coming back. Like, Gen Z wearing it. Like, it's the first time you're like, oh, my God, no.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like, low rise jeans.

[Kate Steinberg]

I think my friend, she's a fashion stylist, and she said pencil skirts are coming back. She's like, just wait, since people are going back into the office, like, millennial like, corporate culture is coming back.

[Raina Greenberg]

But you do.

[Ashley Hess]

You'll do, like, the cult, not just fashion. Like, our phones that we have American Girl dolls. Like, the way that we.

[Kate Steinberg]

Thank you for reminding me about my job. Yes. So.

[Ashley Hess]

And did your mom keep a bunch of stuff?

[Kate Steinberg]

Okay, exactly. So my mom has, like, saved so much stuff in our basement, and we call it, like, the museum. And we just. They moved to Denver now, so I have a whole storage unit full of stuff. Like, they saved so much stuff, but now I buy.

[Chad Savage]

It's like, a whole house. It's not just. It's their whole house.

[Ashley Hess]

Like, you don't have to green screen it with fake stuff.

[Kate Steinberg]

No, a lot of it is, like. Well, now I feel like I've used so many of my props. Like, I go on Poshmark ebay. But the crazy thing is it's so expensive now. Like, it is. Cause it's all coming back. Like, everything, Right?

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah. Now it's in fashion again.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah. Like, the Hollister jackets that once were $25 are selling for, like, 302. I'm in the middle of a bid.

[Ashley Hess]

That's how I know O2 bidding for it. The fact that you could have to rebuy stuff that you once owned.

[Kate Steinberg]

Like, I was bidding recently for Scooby Doo snacks. Remember, like, the ones, the matte blue. There was, like, one unopened package.

[Chad Savage]

I remember that.

[Ashley Hess]

And I lost the matte blue. Yes.

[Kate Steinberg]

And that's how, like, niche I'm getting with things.

[Chad Savage]

What did it end up going for again?

[Kate Steinberg]

It's like, one. Oh, it's like 101.

[Chad Savage]

She tapped out at, like, 95. Right.

[Raina Greenberg]

At some point you do.

[Ashley Hess]

It's like, you need it for your content.

[Kate Steinberg]

Like, I do.

[Ashley Hess]

Work related.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yes.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah. She was upset at herself for tapping out.

[Kate Steinberg]

Like, she was like, Froot Loop cereal straws. Like the OG packaging. People sell this stuff. It's wild. Like.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Kate Steinberg]

And I'm bidding for it. Like, old snacks.

[Raina Greenberg]

How do you get the ideas for it?

[Kate Steinberg]

A lot of it is, like, based on, like, my real life. But then sometimes Chad will, like, tell me things he used to do in Pennsylvania, and I'm like, oh, that's so weird.

[Chad Savage]

Well, you got to clarify Pennsylvania, though.

[Ashley Hess]

Raina's in Pennsylvania.

[Chad Savage]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

[Kate Steinberg]

You're just, like, a little bit differently. I feel like our experience, we're just like, he didn't get to go out during lunchtime. Like, he didn't have free lunch. Did you have Free lunch?

[Ashley Hess]

No, we would skip school sometimes when we could drive, we would leave. And I remember one day, we all. All skipped. We all went to Wendy's, and we're like, we're so bad. And the whole science department walked in, all the teachers. We ran out. And then they called the school, and they were like, ashley and Nikki and whoever are coming back. And so we tried to park and run in. The vice principal ran after us. He cut me off. My friend Nikki went the other way.

[Kate Steinberg]

Like, our.

[Ashley Hess]

We lived in a small town, I feel like was, like out of a movie where it was just like that. Like, we knew the teachers knew the.

[Chad Savage]

Princess, and they were cool about it.

[Ashley Hess]

We got, like, chased. Yes. And they were cool.

[Chad Savage]

Yes.

[Ashley Hess]

Obviously, we got detention, but, like, slap on the wrist. But I remember skipping the first lunch.

[Raina Greenberg]

So your content, I think, really kind of like, celebrates millennial culture. It's, like, cute. But, like, how do you feel about, like, content that, like, really makes fun of, like, hot Millennial cringe?

[Ashley Hess]

I like.

[Kate Steinberg]

Okay, I'm not. Yeah, you're right. Like, my stuff is, like, all positive. I try to, like, toe the line of, like, I don't ever want to.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like, I think it's cute.

[Kate Steinberg]

But I see a lot of people making fun of millennial stuff. I kind of on the side of the right now. Like, videos of Gen Z telling millennials how to act like, the do's and don'ts on, like, stories and such. But I am trying to be, like, self aware. Like, I try not to be too millennial, but I do, Like, I'll make a genuine video. And then people like, this is millennial core. Like, it deleted a video recently.

[Chad Savage]

It was the.

[Kate Steinberg]

I made a tune to, like, Ross Target, T.J. maxx.

[Chad Savage]

T.J. maxx.

[Kate Steinberg]

And it went insanely viral. But it was, like, not for the right reasons. And I took it down.

[Ashley Hess]

I just. People were, like, hating on it.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah. It was just so millennial. And I'm like, this is just.

[Chad Savage]

And it was doing so well.

[Raina Greenberg]

I find that content making fun of any generation to be, like, embarrassing. I have never in my life spent a moment thinking about the other generation. And I can't believe they say that or do that or wear that or want that. I don't care. Like, times change, fashion's change. The way that the world works changes. I have never cared less about anything. The millennial cringe. I'm a millennial. I'm proud of the life that I built. I'm proud of my role in social media and the Internet and what I wore. And I am older than Gen Z and I'm proud of it. They should. They shouldn't want to be like me, and I don't want to be like them. There's a groove for all of them.

[Kate Steinberg]

That's so true though, when you say.

[Ashley Hess]

It like, oh, that's so millennial. But that's what I. What am I supposed to be, Beach? I'm trying to act like I'm 22. That's cringe. I'm acting my age. What an insult.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's so weird.

[Ashley Hess]

I am gonna pause before I started Instagram story.

[Raina Greenberg]

That's how I am.

[Kate Steinberg]

For every story, the pause is there.

[Ashley Hess]

Like, I millennial pause.

[Raina Greenberg]

I don't care.

[Chad Savage]

And it's so niche.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like, it started with like, side parts and front tucks. I'm never gonna stop a front tuck. And then I saw this video the other day that this girl was. Said some girl came up to her and was like, I like your jeans. And she was like, oh, my God, they're so cheap. They're from Amazon. I'll give you the link. And the girl was like, ew, that's so millennial that you would, like, give me the link. I'm just complimenting you. Take the compliment. I'm like, we've gotten so niche about this. Like, like, to Ashley's point, I don't want to be like a 22 year old. Good for them. They have their own journey. I don't want to talk like them or dress like them. I'm glad they don't want to talk or dress like me. I don't care.

[Kate Steinberg]

That is really niche. I'm just like, I've never cared about.

[Raina Greenberg]

Anything less in my life.

[Ashley Hess]

But also, like, this is not all Gen Z's. I'm. This, this is not a Gen Z hater podcast. I'm just saying, like, the whole culture of, like, it feels a little mean spirited and it feels a little like age shame y. Like you got. And it's just like, this is so weird.

[Raina Greenberg]

I don't know.

[Ashley Hess]

I don't get it.

[Raina Greenberg]

No, I agree to back you up. I only mean people that specifically make content to seek out making fun of millennials. I just, I don't know, it's funny to make fun of something that, like, you will be one day, like, God willing, you will get older and you will be my age and you will be an older generation than the one below you. And this is gonna happen to all of us. It's funny to, like, make fun of something that is going to Happen to you.

[Ashley Hess]

I always think about that.

[Chad Savage]

It's a really good point.

[Kate Steinberg]

When I started off in advertising 2013, I was like, being the millennial was the coolest thing. Like, everybody came to me for, like, questions. They're like, you're the official millennial in the office. Oh, my God. And time just flew. But you're right, eventually, Gen Alpha's coming up where it's already the next one. I don't know what's underneath them.

[Raina Greenberg]

And yes, of course, when I was 20, I thought 30 was the oldest you could ever be in your life. And people dread those milestone birthdays. Cause it's so old. But it's like, God willing, you'll grow up and you'll be healthy and you'll evolve. And what we did with social media and the Internet and how we got to be raised without it for so long.

[Ashley Hess]

I say it all the time. We're the luckiest.

[Kate Steinberg]

Talk about it all the time.

[Ashley Hess]

We're the luckiest generation. We've got to live two different types of lives. And we got to, like, I got to get out of college. I'm older than you guys, without social media. I mean, we got to grow up, have, like, real childhoods, and, like, play differently.

[Chad Savage]

And I think about that a lot. Just because it was. It was so different. And, like, going through college without social media now. We were just talking to.

[Kate Steinberg]

It was about Vegas.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah. And how. Oh. Because Vegas. Just every time we've been in Vegas lately, it just seems slow. And it was just like we were trying to figure out why. And somebody said that, like, Gen Z doesn't. They don't like to party. Yeah. Because. Because, like. But also, they said it had to do. Which could make sense with, like, phones. And they don't, like, maybe they just.

[Kate Steinberg]

Don'T feel comfortable, like, going out to, like. Yeah.

[Chad Savage]

Letting loose a little bit more.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. Which is, I mean, healthy. But listen, that was fun. And I feel like they don't go so hard like we did. And I can't imagine the stuff I did in late high school, college if it would have ended up on the Internet. I can't even think about. I could throw up. But to think about it.

[Raina Greenberg]

Oh, yeah. And maybe this has, like, stopped some bad behavior from, you know, the amount of binge drinking or promiscuity. And it's helped people make, like, safer, healthier decisions. But, like, I just got to live a more unburdened life, and I'm happy for it, and I'm happy to be the age I am.

[Chad Savage]

And, you get to do that now, too. Like, you get to do the social media now and you get to like.

[Ashley Hess]

So as adults.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ashley Hess]

More responsibility. Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

I got to travel before TikTok created lines that were five blocks long at every place that was worth going to. I got to like, get into places.

[Kate Steinberg]

I wanted to go to, actually. Question. Have you been to Community Goods? We live right by in West Hollywood.

[Ashley Hess]

Oh, is that.

[Raina Greenberg]

No, I've been by and I see.

[Kate Steinberg]

The line, always a line at Community Goods. And I'm just having. Nothing scares me more than a line, though. I. I just can't. Like when the road pop up happened two miles long. Nothing. I just lines give me so much anxiety.

[Chad Savage]

So hot.

[Kate Steinberg]

It was so hot.

[Ashley Hess]

I know people are just out there and it's good for. But then sometimes it's. It's an overcorrection. Like, businesses like, want the business and they can't keep up with the business.

[Kate Steinberg]

And they're like, I wish I could.

[Ashley Hess]

Go back till when it was just like, yeah, okay. So Kate, you. But when you guys met, like, you were doing content, but it wasn't like where you are now. You have a million followers. You've working with your Limited 2 model, all the these things. But Chad, you were not an influencer at all. You have a great watch line and what is it called?

[Chad Savage]

Daniel Savage watches. Daniel Savage watches.

[Ashley Hess]

The watches are gorgeous. You guys should check them out. But you kind of started this whole, like, influencer in the home series. I did basically just kind of Kate's in the background doing her thing, which was kind of a parody of like, what's it like to be with, like a partner that's creating content. But now you're an influencer too. That's the twist.

[Chad Savage]

It's very kind for you to give me that title. I'm still. I feel like personally working up to the content creator, but it's very, very kind. Yeah, it was just. It was really, really fine because it was like we were in Chicago and we were basically. I was. I was working, like, I work for my family business, though. So I was in the corner at the window and I was just doing real life stuff. Like I was on my laptop, I was doing. I was taking calls, and Kate was doing her real life stuff. She was in the back and she was dancing and it was just like. And all of a sudden I was like. And I eat all the time. So it was just like normal. You know what I mean? So I'm like, I'm eating something and I just. I set up the phone, and it's, like, facing her with me in it, and I'm just eating something, and I'm just like. I start doing these videos, and at first I probably did, like, five of them, and I just send them to my brother and my sister, and we're, like, dying laughing, you know what I mean? Like, it's so funny. And then Kate caught wind one time. She was like, that's really funny. You should post it. And that's how that whole thing started. And it was just, like, it was fun because I knew nothing about social media and just, like, was so out of that world. So it was fun. It was a fun, like, stepping stone of me coming into a world and then kind of gaining, like, this also love for it and really, like, having fun doing it on my own and doing it with her.

[Raina Greenberg]

So I think it's nice to get real. I think you see a lot of, like, couples that just. Just seems so, like, perfect on the Internet. And I think you're making these, like, BTS videos. Then what was the challenge where you still done the thing?

[Ashley Hess]

The Nicki Minaj.

[Raina Greenberg]

Nicki Minaj challenge.

[Chad Savage]

Chad was like, my anxiety is going back up.

[Ashley Hess]

Yours was like, first one I saw that, I feel, like, went crazy viral that I couldn't believe what I was looking at. Like, and everybody was like, this is AI. And you were like, it's not AI've been to their house. I know where this is taking place. And I still, like, couldn't believe it.

[Kate Steinberg]

Chad was begging me to get down off the four Loko can. Like, I crushed, like.

[Ashley Hess]

And you.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yes. Coors. Like, cans are flying everywhere because I just. I needed to wear the wedges. And this is 10:30 at night where I'm like, Chad, like, I need to break the record by the morning. And Chad's like, please, like, Kate, like, let's try this in the morning.

[Chad Savage]

I'm like, it's not worth it. Please, like, can we stop? And she's like, I don't want to be a widow. She's like. She's like, I could do it one more. And, like, there's nothing behind her eyes. And I'm like. I'm like, yo. I'm like, I don't know what to do. I'm, like, trying to shift, like, cushions.

[Kate Steinberg]

To, like, oh, my God, I fell. And he's. I'm like, he caught me. And I said, let me fall.

[Raina Greenberg]

If she.

[Ashley Hess]

She died.

[Raina Greenberg]

If I died.

[Chad Savage]

She straight up said that. She was like, I wish you would have let me fall off the bar. And I'm like, what do you mean by that? Like, actually run that back to me. Cause I don't get it. I'm confused. And she's like, she's like, I was a cheerleader.

[Kate Steinberg]

Like, oh, yeah, I brought.

[Chad Savage]

It's better to just fall.

[Kate Steinberg]

Over a decade ago, I was like, what?

[Ashley Hess]

You did? Like, pro sport? What'd you do? The hockey? Oh, yeah.

[Kate Steinberg]

I was a I n shell cheerleader. But like, I. I was like, cuz in cheerleading you're supposed to like, put your hands up and let the baseball, the flyer fall. Yeah. I didn't want him spotting me. I was like, I know how to fall correctly. You getting in my way actually was more damaging.

[Ashley Hess]

But he's a good partner. Like, no man would have been like, I'm gonna let her fall. It was a test.

[Kate Steinberg]

That's when social media gets dangerous because there is a glaze that gets over my eyes. Like when we did the Bugatti challenge, when I was like, pull harder. And then he like, pulls my back out and I'm like, this is kind.

[Ashley Hess]

Of what I wanted to talk about. Like, now you guys do some content together and you've probably gotten some brand deals where it really requires both of you. And what is that dynamic like? And then also, like, are there times when one of you is like, we have to do this thing. And the other one's like, you know, I think it's so fascinating. Influencer couples.

[Chad Savage]

It's my favorite thing, but it's also a struggle.

[Kate Steinberg]

Sometimes I think the hard part is the boundary. Like, there's no boundaries with videos or, like, work schedule. Like, I don't know how people, like, shut off because It'll be like 9pm at night. And I'm like, calling out a window for the Hamilton Challenge. I'm like, can you please get out of bed and film me? And then he'll. He's so nice. He like, yeah. But when it's vice versa, like, like, sometimes I'm like, I don't want to film right now. Like, I don't want to pick up a phone. I'm so burnt out. But also, like, it's a team effort. Like, if you. He can't always just be filming me. And I'm not reciprocating it when he needs my help. So I think the one thing is our. Like, we went to couples therapy, or my therapist is like, you have to set boundaries. Like 7pm phones down, and we'll try it. And then it.

[Chad Savage]

It's just tough.

[Ashley Hess]

It's such like a.

[Kate Steinberg]

It's like, a blessing and a. Like, not a curse.

[Chad Savage]

No, no. We have so much fun with it. We really, really do. Like, it is literally my favorite thing. But it's also just like any family business. Like, I'm also in another family business, where it's the best thing in the world.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Chad Savage]

But you. When things don't go, like, your way or the way you would react or talk to someone in a manner sometimes. You know what I mean? That you. Because it's your family, it's your best friends.

[Raina Greenberg]

Right.

[Chad Savage]

So, like, that's the boundary, too, where it's like. Like, it's just hard to navigate.

[Raina Greenberg]

So it isn't all, just, like, fluff. I remember, like, right after the election, people were, like, posting videos. And, Chad, I saw you post this video about, like, your feelings about Donald Trump winning the presidency, and I was really moved by it. And, like, is there a discussion behind closed doors? Like, what you guys both do reflects on the other person now because you're, like, in business together. So, like, was there a discussion of, like, I'm gonna publicly come out and make these political statements?

[Ashley Hess]

I mean, it was a broad statement. It was just like, this is a heavy time.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah, yeah, it was just.

[Raina Greenberg]

But you didn't have to do it at all. You know, what you're doing is the Bugatti challenge and the Nicki Minaj challenge. You don't have to do that at all. So was there a discussion about that?

[Chad Savage]

There was. So, like, I remember very obviously, everyone probably remembers very vividly like this, especially the days after the election. It was just heavy. Like, it was so heavy. It was like, I can't believe this happened. And so I remember just waking up, and it was just tough. And I was like. It was almost. It would start out as, like, this mental diary, you know, the video I showed Kate. And my plan was I was like, I want to post this. Like, it's. This feels like. This feels authentic to me, and I. I want to share it. And there was, like, this. And she was behind me the whole time. But there is, like, that back and forth where it's like, we obviously always want to put out things that are positive and fun, you know, and, like, things that people want to see. Yeah. Just, like, try to make people laugh. But then there's also the realism to it. Like, it's also, like, my account, it's her account. It's like, you want to also make, like, put positivity in the world, and, like, real things are happening and difficult situations are happening. And I think and she also thinks that it's important to highlight that and it means something. Like it really does. Like it's important to put your stamp in the world and try to make things better. How you see. Yeah, I think so.

[Kate Steinberg]

I was really proud of you when you made that video. I was like proud to stand behind him. I'm like, he's really good with his words. I feel like you are just so good and I appreciate you for that because he like will make a video on the spot. Just say it. And I'm like, that's like, it's always just like for the kindness and respect for everyone. That's always the message behind it. So I'm like, like post it. Like you can't go. Like if that's his whole thing is just like kindness for everybody.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. I have a question for you guys. You don't have to answer this. Are you guys religious?

[Kate Steinberg]

No.

[Ashley Hess]

You're not?

[Chad Savage]

I was, I was raised Catholic.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay.

[Chad Savage]

But I haven't been to church in, in like organized church in a while.

[Ashley Hess]

You guys seem like you embody what you hope people who whatever consider themselves Christian or spiritual, like really are. You guys are genuinely good people. I mean the dog that you've adopted and that is what you embody to me. And we just see so much division and hate today. And I don't know, I really look at you guys as the genuinely kind hearted people. I mean you were the first people to be like, come to our house with the fires. And I know I always think about the dogs you guys have taken in. Dogs that other people wouldn't. You know, you have two.

[Kate Steinberg]

I think we might be getting one more. Yes. We are so big on adoption. I'm kind of curious.

[Ashley Hess]

I don't know, I just, I think about you guys a lot and I was like curious if what you're like religious or your beliefs were in general. Because it's like we talk a lot about religion and the way that people really are and what they really embody and the way they live their life. And you guys seem to me you're like actually what? Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

What I think about, I think the core of most religions should be be kind, treat others well. And you know, I just, I was, I was, I don't wanna say I was surprised by the video I saw you post, but your guys content can be like lighter and funnier. And you took a moment to be like, this is a time in the world where people are hurting and struggling and I have a platform and I have something to say and I want to use it. And it can be really hard to do that when you also have another person who you're reflecting upon them and your livelihood depends on each other now. And it's just, it's brave to speak out in the world. And I've had other influencers say to me and Ashley, like, it's really brave. You guys talk about politics and I could never see it any other way. So I just, I want to like commend you guys for.

[Kate Steinberg]

I also will say you guys do text us often too. Like you're just like, thank you for posting or like that's like it. It also is reassuring when your friends are reaching out to and giving you that like reminds you like what you're doing, like at the core is like good. And just having that support means a lot. Cuz on the flip side of posting a video like that, you're going to get ton of hate and a lot.

[Chad Savage]

She also received, just like you said, like for me posting that she was getting messages.

[Raina Greenberg]

Absolutely.

[Chad Savage]

You know, and, and it was, it's, it's just tough. It's like either way. But like, I think at the end of the day, like you said, you just like you guys always do, which is why one of the many reasons we love you. You guys stay true to who you are and you speak, you speak positivity. And it's I think like in that video, hopefully like it was supposed to be broad statement of just like love.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, it was.

[Raina Greenberg]

You struck a balance.

[Kate Steinberg]

You know that Hamilton quote, it's like you don't stand for something. Like, what do you fall for if.

[Raina Greenberg]

You stand for nothing? You fall for everything.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, something like that. So, yeah, we talk about just being with. Being with somebody who like supports me no matter what, but it's not in this world at all. Like, let's go. You guys like each other. It's very cute. It's very funny. Sometimes when you've been in like videos or something and people are like, who's his friend? Or who's his brother? Is he single? And like, oh, there was one, you.

[Raina Greenberg]

Know, it was my New Year's party.

[Ashley Hess]

We had the Montana Boys video.

[Chad Savage]

That was fun.

[Ashley Hess]

Just like, who is that guy? Who is he?

[Kate Steinberg]

And they were, is that your, is.

[Ashley Hess]

That your boyfriend's brother or cousin? I'm like, first of all, are you guys being racist?

[Raina Greenberg]

What's happening here?

[Ashley Hess]

But it was just the way that Chad people, I was like, you're taking a lot of love that day out of the comments. I told Kate to get in the.

[Kate Steinberg]

Comments, I was like, that's my fiance or something else.

[Ashley Hess]

But you guys understand each other and how I can, like, agonize over something I'm posting on social media. And. And I also, like, you know, I think we know how to handle any sort of hate, and we've dealt with this for years, but still, something can, like, take us out for an hour at least. You know, I don't think things ruin our day. Maybe like they would have years ago. But you guys understand each other on that level. Like, someone might have a partner that's like. It's just Instagram, like, what's the big deal? And it's just like, at least you understand that this is a big deal and I'm reaching all these people and what I say comes with positive and negative responses. And so it seems like you guys have a good balance. You and I have talked a lot about, like, anxiety surrounding social media.

[Raina Greenberg]

Do you feel a lot of anxiety even now?

[Kate Steinberg]

I have anxiety all day. Like, all day, all day long. I think also, I need. I was literally on the way here looking up psychiatrists because I'm like, 99. Sure. I have ADHD, which is affecting my anxiety as well. I just need to get diagnosed.

[Ashley Hess]

We have an episode for you. You should listen.

[Kate Steinberg]

Do you.

[Ashley Hess]

A woman on. She was late diagnosed with ADHD in life, and it explained her whole life.

[Kate Steinberg]

I do feel like there's, like, some things, like, I walk into a room and then like, I'll do 10 other things before the one thing I need to do. And I'm like, I just. And I get so anxious about little things. And I'm like, I think there's more to this than just anxiety. But anyways, yes, anxiety and social media, it's gotten a lot better because I would crash out hard. Especially the early days before Chad really understood social media. He's like, why are you letting this affect you so much? Like. But now he gets it. Now he, like, can see why, like.

[Chad Savage]

Cause I also do it in the.

[Ashley Hess]

And you even understand.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah. And I'm like, why are you letting this consume you? And then I'm coming to her.

[Raina Greenberg]

I'm like, I'll get you too. I mean, Kate, I'm always amazed by you because I look at you, I experience you as this calm, really kind to everyone. So beautiful, lovely person. And you're the first person to be like, no, no, no. I'm extremely anxious all day long. You're very open about, like, what you're going through with your mental health. And it makes me at Least feel when I'm with you, like, okay. Optically, I see this beautiful person with this gorgeous fiance and this great life and like, people. Everyone's struggling with something and you're the first person to just be open about it.

[Kate Steinberg]

No, I want people to know, like, 99% of the day, I think I'm a squid. Like, I'm literally so hard on myself. Yeah, I'm really hard on myself.

[Chad Savage]

She is so hard on herself. Like, the hardest.

[Kate Steinberg]

But sometimes I think when you're anxious, you're like, that's my drive. Like, anxiety keeps me going. If I beat myself down, then I'm always going to keep myself going. So I've been trying to, like, find the balance. Yes.

[Raina Greenberg]

I think you should be proud of yourself. I think it gives other people strength to be like, optically, this person has a great life and she also has mental health struggles. And. Yeah, does everybody. And that's. That's strength for other people.

[Kate Steinberg]

I also feel like I need to find a balance of just like separating work in, like. Yeah, like, sometimes, especially like la, sometimes there's events and sometimes events are really great, but other times I come back from events being like, oh, I really feel horrible about myself. And like, working with my therapist to be like, that's a work event. Like, when you're there, that's work. Like, not everybody is going to be your friend. Not every. Like, I'm. I don't know. It's hard coming from the Midwest where you're just like, everyone's so, like, genuine nice and everything and there are those people out here. But also there's a times where it's like, you say hi to somebody and they're like, could not care less about who you are. Like, And I'm like, even just as a person, you're like, oh, not even a high.

[Ashley Hess]

Like, I love that you brought that up. And it is something we've noticed obviously, so much here. We have great friends here. We love a lot of the people in la, but notoriously, I mean, you have people that are a little more shallow and opportunistic and they only see you as what you can do for them and they don't really want to be your friend and they can sometimes act like they do and they'll kiss your ass. And it just. You realize that and it's like, I think some of us, a lot of us have found each other and you tons of friends that aren't in this world, as do we. Most of our friends are not. And so I get what you mean. About being at an event and being like, oh my God, who? These people don't make me feel good about myself.

[Kate Steinberg]

I, I am. So Chad went to an event this weekend by himself and he came home and he's like, I walked up to a group of guys, I'm like, oh my God, what do you mean?

[Chad Savage]

She's like, what do you mean? Who was it?

[Kate Steinberg]

Like, I.

[Chad Savage]

What do you mean you walked up to them? What were they doing?

[Kate Steinberg]

He said hi. I'm like, what?

[Chad Savage]

I was like, that is the bravest.

[Kate Steinberg]

Thing I've ever heard. I will literally circle around a group like a hawk until like someone says hi.

[Raina Greenberg]

People in LA are very specific to me. I mean like some. I feel like a man in LA could be drowning and he won't talk to you to get a raft. Like, not everybody, that's a blanket statement. But like, I've never gone out in New York City and not made friends, met people, been approached by guys. Like, that's not really the vibe here. And probably it's because everybody is so in their own heads here and anxious self loathing and just thinking about themselves. They're actually not trying to be terrible to you, they're just trying to be less terrible to themselves for a second. But that is the vibe here a lot of the times. And so yeah, I would be so nervous to walk up to a group of people because I would know they won't talk to me.

[Kate Steinberg]

I'm so proud of you for doing that. And you made a friend. And I'm like, oh my God, I did.

[Chad Savage]

But no, we've, especially when we first moved, we got to leave the house more. That's another thing. Me and her. Yeah, we used to go out, right? We've had this, that experience where we've, you know, I've been talking to someone, I walk up and it feels genuine. It's like I'm interested in getting to know them. Then, then me and everything feels good. Then it goes into occupations. I swear, like this happened to me a couple times. They just start. Something is up on the ceiling that they become very interested in. And.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Chad Savage]

And they just will look. And I'm like, okay, I guess, I guess we're done here.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah, right.

[Ashley Hess]

I didn't say the thing they wanted to hear. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Savage]

But it was like, like before then it felt so natural.

[Raina Greenberg]

That's fun.

[Chad Savage]

I'm like, this is gonna be my dude. Like, so that dude's gone.

[Ashley Hess]

Bye. That really is true. And I, I mean, again, I, I love it here. We've chosen to live here.

[Kate Steinberg]

We want to stay.

[Ashley Hess]

This is not everybody. But yes, I think when you meet people in Philly or Boston like that, you know where you stand quick. I mean, and they might be rude.

[Raina Greenberg]

To you up front and that's not.

[Ashley Hess]

Your friend, but if you, you really bond with somebody, they're probably gonna be your friend. Like, it's just different. Like, we've had to realize this and I think that's why people can find LA to be an isolating place or hard to make friends. Especially when you're younger because you have no idea. You're like, oh my God, I just made a friend. Tonight we really hit it off and they ghost you. You know, there's a lot of like.

[Kate Steinberg]

Friend ghosting also, like being in your 30s, like, it, like it's, it's harder. Like it's a different. Like I go to events and someone's like, I'm 22. And I'm like, ah.

[Raina Greenberg]

Don'T make a video about me being a millennial.

[Kate Steinberg]

And I was like, oh, we're not gonna get coffee. I totally get it. Like, I met an 18 year old.

[Ashley Hess]

And I was like, oh my God, what are you doing here? If I meet an 18 year old, it's my friend's kid. At this age.

[Kate Steinberg]

Like, if you're a.

[Ashley Hess]

Teenager, you are a friend's kid.

[Chad Savage]

18. Yeah. Where's your parental supervision?

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah, yeah. And then when, yeah, we'll remind each other. Like, we'll tell people. We're like, in 10 years, you're gonna be where we're at. Like.

[Raina Greenberg]

Right.

[Kate Steinberg]

So just hold on.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay, well, we do need to wrap up with you guys, but tell us anything. Can we wrap it up with like, you'll get married eventually if you want to.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay.

[Kate Steinberg]

We were just talking tonight. We're gonna look for a wedding planner because that's what we need to. Yeah.

[Ashley Hess]

And then you have two dogs now, Mike and Bob. And is there gonna be a third? Most people, I think.

[Kate Steinberg]

Okay, I do want to. There is one thing I want to plug. So at the Lang foundation, there's this 14 year old beagle named Brady. He's looking for a loving home. Chad and I really want to adopt him, but we are running out of space. And then there's another dog, Punky, that's been there, a little bulldog that's been there for three years.

[Ashley Hess]

The thought of a 14 year old dog in the, like in a shelter is like gut wrenching.

[Kate Steinberg]

We just brought him home and he was so loving to all the animals. He just curled up on the couch. He just wants, like a little landing pad.

[Ashley Hess]

Like, what is the foundation?

[Chad Savage]

Lang.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, the Lang Foundation. Okay, got it.

[Raina Greenberg]

And is there anything else you guys want to plug, Plug your Instagrams? Any projects you have coming up?

[Ashley Hess]

No, I. Oh, my God. Chad, what's your. Where can we get the watches?

[Chad Savage]

Yeah, @danielsavagewatch.com. it's very, very important to me. It's a family brand. I named the brand after my dad. He's my hero. So I can't do anything in life, life unless it's like, I have a driver and that's always going to be family oriented. So it's my. My, you know, my dad, my mom, my bro, my siblings, or, and. Or Kate. So, yeah, no, it's. It's very important to me. So thank you for.

[Raina Greenberg]

All right.

[Kate Steinberg]

Yeah, yeah, just follow. We're gonna start wedding planning, I guess, and I think my big message is adopt, don't shop. That's my big. My big mission in life, personal life.

[Ashley Hess]

It's your Instagram.

[Kate Steinberg]

Oh, my Instagram is. It's Kate Steinberg, the worst influencer.

[Raina Greenberg]

She's like, go to the sandal shelter.

[Ashley Hess]

Honestly though, everybody already knows it at this point. They're like, we know the Instagram, okay.

[Kate Steinberg]

Oh, they don't.

[Raina Greenberg]

We love you guys. Thank you for being here.

[Kate Steinberg]

We're so happy to be here.

[Raina Greenberg]

Thank you for being our LA friends.

[Chad Savage]

We honestly love you guys. We've been so excited about this. And then we were late and we're like, we blew it.

[Ashley Hess]

So, yeah, we made it happen. That's why we have to cut.

[Raina Greenberg]

We do have to wrap this up. We have to go to Botox.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay? So adopt, don't shop is the best, best message that we could. Could end on.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah.

[Chad Savage]

Yeah, you crushed that.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay, girls, gotta eat.com is where to find us. You guys can get tickets to our holiday shows in New York. And LA Girls got a podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess. Raina is Raina Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube. Share this episode with a friend.

[Raina Greenberg]

Follow them.

[Ashley Hess]

Get the watches. Adopt, don't shop and we will see you Thursday.

[Raina Greenberg]

Have a good week, guys.

[Ashley Hess]

By.

[Chad Savage]

The way.

[Raina Greenberg]

Brian, at the.