S2 Ep10: Emily English and Caroline Hirons Answer Your Questions

Summary

Podcast Summary: Glad We Had This Chat with Caroline Hirons Episode: Season 2, Episode 10
Title: Emily English and Caroline Hirons Answer Your Questions
Release Date: December 4, 2024
Host: Caroline Hirons
Guest: Emily English

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In the tenth episode of Season 2 of Glad We Had This Chat, Caroline Hirons teams up with nutrition expert Emily English to address listener-submitted questions, offering insightful advice on skincare, nutrition, and personal well-being. The episode is structured around a series of listener inquiries, interspersed with a light-hearted "This or That" segment that delves into personal preferences and lifestyle choices.

1. Pre-Wedding Skincare Concerns

Question: "I'm getting married next summer and I'm absolutely terrified of breaking out on the big day. I have oily, acne-prone skin and worry that stress and routine changes will trigger breakouts. What steps can I take to prep my skin and minimize the risk of acne on my wedding day?"
Timestamp: [03:04]

Emily's Advice: Emily emphasizes the importance of maintaining consistency in skincare routines and avoiding new products or treatments close to the wedding date. She advises:

• Avoid Introducing New Products: "Don't introduce anything new, don't do anything fresh" ([03:20]).
• Hydration and Diet: "Drink, hydrate, drink through it babes. Sleep well" ([03:35]).
• Stress Management: Practice breathing techniques and activities that ground you to manage the "fight or flight" response ([03:38]).
• Gut Health: Maintain regular bowel movements as "the best way to detox is just by having a poo" ([04:03]).

Notable Quote: Emily succinctly captures the essence of stress management's impact on skin: "The best way to detox is just by having a poo" ([04:04]).

2. Healthy Lunches on the Go

Question: "I often find myself eating ultra-processed foods like pre-packaged sandwiches due to a demanding job and lack of meal prep time. What are your tips for lunches on the go when you can't cook at home and want to eat as fresh as possible?"
Timestamp: [04:14]

Emily's Advice: Emily counters the notion that all sandwiches are ultra-processed, advocating for balanced, protein-rich options:

• Opt for Whole Foods: Choose sandwiches with whole ingredients like shredded chicken breast, lettuce, and tomatoes ([05:20]).
• Avoid Meal Deals: "Avoid the meal deal. But, like, just get the sandwich" ([04:59]).
• Prioritize Protein: Aim for 25-30 grams of protein, incorporating items like prawn or calamari pots alongside the main meal ([05:21]).
• Healthy Sides: Complement sandwiches with yogurt pots or other protein-rich snacks instead of crisps or sugary drinks ([05:30]).

Notable Quote: Emily emphasizes protein's importance: "Protein is king... get at least 25 to 30 grams in, even including in your sandwich" ([05:29]).

3. Supporting Gut Health

Question: "I want to better support my gut health but feel overwhelmed by all the information out there. What are the non-negotiables for a gut-friendly diet, and are there specific foods I should prioritize or avoid?"
Timestamp: [06:23]

Emily's Advice: Emily breaks down gut health into manageable components, likening it to building muscle at the gym:

• Gradual Introduction of Fiber and Fermented Foods: Start slowly to allow your gut to adapt, preventing discomfort ([06:35]).
• Diversity and Plant-Based Foods: "More plants, more diversity, more fiber where possible" ([06:43]).
• Hydration, Sleep, and Stress Management: These are foundational for gut health ([07:51]).
• Personalized Nutrition: Recognize that gut responses are individual. "Gut health is like going to the gym... start slow and build up" ([06:43]).
• Limit Alcohol and Liquid Sugars: These negatively impact gut microbiota ([08:28]).

Notable Quote: Emily succinctly states, "Gut health is everything. And I always say, a normal gut is a healthy gut" ([09:09]).

4. Navigating Family Dynamics During Christmas

Question: "My husband's parents live overseas, and while we usually spend Christmas with my family, my husband doesn't always get along with them. This year, he wants to spend Christmas just the two of us, but my parents are aging and would be devastated if I don't come. How can I navigate this without hurting anyone's feelings?"
Timestamp: [08:04]

Emily's Advice: Emily highlights the importance of communication and compromise in relationships:

• Open Dialogue: Encourage a conversation where both partners express their desires and concerns ([09:59]).
• Flexible Planning: Suggest alternatives such as celebrating on different days, like New Year's, to accommodate both families ([10:16]).
• Mutual Agreement: Find a middle ground that respects both partners' feelings and family obligations ([09:59]).

Notable Quote: Emily advises, "It's always about the communication between the two. Express the fact that you want to spend the time with your parents just like he's expressing the fact that he wants to spend it alone" ([09:59]).

5. Fun "This or That" Segment

Caroline and Emily engage in a playful "This or That" segment, revealing personal preferences and injecting humor into the episode. Key points include:

• Social Media Disappearance:

  • Miss Most: "Being able to chat to people about food" ([12:51]).
  • Be Relieved to Leave Behind: "Incessant scrolling and the negativity that comes with it" ([13:23]).

• Favorite Cuisine:

  • Emily: Prefers Greek food for its fresh ingredients and flavors, such as moussaka and Greek salad ([14:27]).

• Ideal Drinks:

  • Emily: Enjoys a Negroni from a rustic Sicilian beach club and a glass of Krug champagne ([16:11]).

• Sandwich Preferences:

  • Emily: Admires classic combinations like cucumber on cheese and pickle sandwiches ([19:33]).
  • Caroline: Prefers her own creations but appreciates cheese and pickle ([20:09]).

Notable Quote: Emily humorously concludes the sandwich discussion: "Vitamin S. Vitamin sandwich." ([20:49]).

6. Closing Remarks and Promotions

The episode concludes with Caroline highlighting the SkinRocks app, promoting premium skincare content and offering a special discount for listeners. She also teases upcoming episodes and encourages listeners to subscribe.

Notable Promotion: Caroline mentions, "Unlock a world of incredible premium content for just £3.99 a month or £34.99 a year" with a special discount code available via the podcast ([10:16]).

Key Takeaways:

• Consistency in Skincare: Avoid altering your routine close to major events to prevent unexpected breakouts.
• Balanced Nutrition on the Go: Prioritize protein and whole foods over processed meal deals to maintain energy and skin health.
• Personalized Gut Health: Focus on gradual dietary changes, hydration, and stress management tailored to individual needs.
• Effective Communication in Relationships: Open discussions and compromises are essential for balancing family dynamics and personal desires.
• Mindful Social Media Use: Recognize the emotional impact of social media and seek positive interactions while minimizing negativity.

This episode offers a blend of practical advice and personal anecdotes, making it a valuable listen for anyone seeking guidance on skincare, nutrition, and maintaining healthy relationships amidst life's challenges.

Transcript

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[Emily English]

I'm ready.

[Caroline Hirons]

I'm getting married next summer and I'm absolutely terrified of breaking out on the big day. I have oily acne prone skin and while I want to look flawless, I'm worried that stress and changes in my routine will trigger my breakouts. What steps can I take to prep my skin and minimize the risk of acne on my wedding day?

[Emily English]

So don't introduce anything new, don't do anything fresh. Yeah. Like don't have any sort of like crazy facial or new facial like the day before as well. Like make sure you have like that bleed out window. Drink, hydrate, drink.

[Caroline Hirons]

I was like calm down, not marriage yet.

[Emily English]

Drink, drink through it babes. Sleep well and also practice breathing techniques. So just be a little bit more in tune with your fight or flight response. How stressed you're getting. Work out the things that actually ground you and make you feel quite good and make sure that you're looking after your gut health as well. Stay regular. So make sure you're going to the bathroom every single day. Everyone always talks about detox. I'm really sorry the the best way to detox is just by having a poo.

[Caroline Hirons]

It's just a poo.

[Emily English]

Yeah. So if you want clear glowing skin.

[Caroline Hirons]

And there's the clickbait, you're welcome world. The best way to detox is to poo.

[Emily English]

If you poo every single day, your skin will glow.

[Caroline Hirons]

I can basically say that is true. I try my best to eat a healthy diet but my downfall always seems to be on my lunch break when grabbing lunch on the go. I work a very demanding job and rarely have time to meal prep which usually results in me eating something ultra processed such as a pre packaged sandwich. I don't think that is ultra processed, but that's what I would. Anyway, what are your tips for lunches on the go when you can't cook at home and want to eat as fresh as possible? That's from Emma in Manchester, but it could be from me.

[Emily English]

Yeah, but I disagree because I feel like now our food accessibility is better than ever. I Think we have access to a whole range of incredibly healthy food.

[Caroline Hirons]

Yeah.

[Emily English]

You can go to prep and have a full balanced meal.

[Caroline Hirons]

Yeah.

[Emily English]

And it's a full balanced meal. The only thing that I used to coach my kind of nutrition clients on was beware of the meal deal. Because that's.

[Caroline Hirons]

You don't need the crisps and the drink.

[Emily English]

You don't need the crisp, the chocolate bar, and the full sugar drink alongside your sandwich in order to feel satisfied. In fact, it's not going to make you feel more satisfied. It's going to make you feel crap in the afternoon, which then you're going to crave more. So you're going to hit the biscuit cupboard with your cup of tea and then you're just on this roller coaster and then you get home and then you feel like a failure, and then you don't bother cooking dinner and you order in. So it's.

[Caroline Hirons]

It's avoid the meal deal.

[Emily English]

Avoid the meal deal. But, like, just get the sandwich. I'm gonna go say the egg pot again. Yeah, the stinky egg pot. But protein is king.

[Caroline Hirons]

Yeah.

[Emily English]

So if you're looking or you want an easy guy to find something that's healthy for a grab and go option, opt for protein. So try and get at least 25 to 30 grams in, even including in your sandwich. And if you can't get in that, in your sandwich, pick up one of the extra little snack pots. You know, get like the, the prawn ones. Or you can get like the little calamari. I'm saying all the shellfish ones.

[Caroline Hirons]

Oh, the shellfish. Great. Calamari is fine.

[Emily English]

Chicken satay skewers, for example. But so getting that protein, you can even pair as well have your dessert as, like the little yogurt pots that have the, the, the yogurt with the little compote in, like, you can still have the sweet treat, but seek out your protein and try and look to see as many whole foods in what you're eating as possible.

[Caroline Hirons]

Yeah.

[Emily English]

That's why she'll sit there and be like, oh, sandwiches are ultra processed. No, it's not.

[Caroline Hirons]

It's not.

[Emily English]

I can see the bread, I can see the tomatoes, I can see the lettuce, I can see the chicken.

[Caroline Hirons]

Yeah.

[Emily English]

Little bit of mayo.

[Caroline Hirons]

Chicken nugget is overprocessed.

[Emily English]

A chicken. Yeah, exactly. But if it's shredded chicken breast in your sandwich, don't worry, like, there's a lot more options than you think.

[Caroline Hirons]

Marvelous. I want to better support my gut health and find myself overwhelmed by all the information out there. What are the non negotiables for a gut friendly diet and are there specific foods I should prioritize or avoid?

[Emily English]

So I always say it's how your gut responds to the food, not how your food is making your gut response, if that makes sense.

[Caroline Hirons]

Yeah.

[Emily English]

So your gut, as I said before, is incredibly unique. Just chucking loads of fiber and fermented foods down you on that one day you decide, right, I'm going to take care of my gut health. You're so healthy today, it's going to destroy you. You're going to be so bloated, you're going to feel so uncomfortable that you're going to think these foods disagree with you and you're never going to want to do it again. Gut health is like going to the gym. You start slow and you build, you build up your muscle, you build up your strength. And it's the same with gut health foods. More plants, more diversity, more fiber where possible. That can literally mean getting a new bread choice, adding an extra sprinkle of something, sticking an extra courgette into your spag bowl, like all of these things will improve gut health. But also don't forget hydration, don't forget sleep, don't forget stress. The best comparison to how closely your emotions are linked to your gut health is, you know, when you have something big on or you're anxious or you've got a job interview, you have the nervous poo. Like it actually makes you, your stress makes you go to the bathroom. And that's because your emotions will directly influence what is going on in your gut, your gut bacteria.

[Caroline Hirons]

I mean, that's literally where the saying, I'm going to shit myself comes from. Yeah, because you've got to shit myself.

[Emily English]

Exactly. So making sure that you're looking after your emotions and the regulation of your emotions as well is also a foundation for gut.

[Caroline Hirons]

And anything that's a red flag, like just a red flag where if you're talking to someone and they've got either, you know, you suspect they've got leaky gut or they're constipated or they've got diarrhea, what should they just leave in moderation? Maybe occasionally. But generally if you can leave, I'm.

[Emily English]

Going to say it's a really difficult question for me to answer because I think it's such a unique case to case.

[Caroline Hirons]

You can't really generalize.

[Emily English]

Alcohol is really not good for the gut. So if you're waiting for you to.

[Caroline Hirons]

Say something like alcohol or liquid sugar, so.

[Emily English]

So alcohol Especially when dranking in excess on an empty stomach, you're always eating for two. So you have to remember that what you're putting into your body is interacting with both you and your microbes. Your microbes are either going to be like, oh, my God, Yay, my favorite meal. I love this. And it's also important to remember all the antioxidants I spoke about that really good for your skin. We don't directly absorb. They get fermented by our gut bacteria, which then convert it into all these, like secondary and tertiary byproducts, which we're then able to absorb that have the health most in compounds.

[Caroline Hirons]

So if your gut isn't in a good place and you're eating all these berries, thinking you're doing yourself good, it's not going to. It's pointless.

[Emily English]

Not pointless, but you're not going to be optimizing what your diet, what you think you're getting in your diet. So as I go, like, gut health is everything. And I always say, a normal gut is a healthy gut. You don't need this Supergirl. You don't need to think.

[Caroline Hirons]

You just need to poo.

[Emily English]

You just need to poo. And you need to eat and not be uncomfortable. And you shouldn't be bloated all the time. And if you are, that is. That's a sign that something's. That something's going on.

[Caroline Hirons]

Marvelous. Not marvelous, but you know what I mean. Okay. My parent, my husband's parents live overseas and we usually spend Christmas with my family. He doesn't always get along with my parents and has asked that we spend Christmas just the two of us. This year my parents are getting older and I know they will be devastated if I don't come. How can I navigate this situation without hurting anyone's feelings? Should I try to convince him to go? Or is it better to set boundaries to protect my marriage? Jamie endorse it.

[Emily English]

I think every single relationship is about compromises. So it's always about the communication between the two. So I think they just sit down. She needs to express the fact that she wants to spend the time with her parents just like the same way he's expressing the fact that he wants to spend it alone and then come to some sort of mutual agreement.

[Caroline Hirons]

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[Caroline Hirons]

If social media suddenly disappeared tomorrow, what would you miss most? And what would you be relieved to leave behind?

[Emily English]

Sally in Exeter I definitely miss being able to just like chat to people about food. Like I I open my my phone now and I have five heartfelt messages of people being like, you've changed my whole relationship with food. Oh my God. Major Thai meatballs last night. Best thing I've ever done. My husband now thinks I'm a coloring genius so that I I love my audience. Yeah, I do it all for them. Like everything, everything That I do is.

[Caroline Hirons]

Same for the people. Yeah. When you get the really good comments, like, you've changed my skin.

[Emily English]

Yeah.

[Caroline Hirons]

Yeah.

[Emily English]

It's what it's for.

[Caroline Hirons]

I wouldn't miss the incessant getting dragged in by a dopamine hit. The scrolling. I wouldn't miss the scrolling and the sort of negativity. The negativity that a lot of social media apps seem to breed.

[Emily English]

Yeah, definitely. Like, I remember, I. Trolls used to impact me a lot more when I first became big. And now I've got to the point where I've been like, I need to say, like, what's your problem? I'm giving you free, delicious recipes, making the world a happy place.

[Caroline Hirons]

What's your problem?

[Emily English]

Yeah. No, literally, what else do you.

[Caroline Hirons]

You want? But a lot of people want everything.

[Emily English]

Yeah.

[Caroline Hirons]

I mean, I used to joke and say I could give people an entire routine, give them a discount code, they get free shipping, and some of them will be annoyed that I haven't organized Royal mail to deliver on the right day.

[Emily English]

Yeah. It's crazy, isn't it? But there's. There's part of me that's like, do you know what? Thank you for. For showing me that I've achieved enough in my life to be able to have my little troll.

[Caroline Hirons]

Yeah.

[Emily English]

Troll group.

[Caroline Hirons]

I think it's nice that you have somewhere that you can tell me you hate me. If you could only eat one cuisine for the rest of your life, what would it be? And why?

[Emily English]

Wow. World buffet. So I could have everything.

[Caroline Hirons]

Absolute cheat. No. No cheating.

[Emily English]

Oh, God. Do you know what I'm gonna have to say? Greek foods.

[Caroline Hirons]

Wow.

[Emily English]

There is nothing better. No fresh fish. Greek chips. Why are they so good in Greece? Greek salad, amazing. Feta, good olive oil. But they also do, like, moussaka, which is kind of like lasagna. And. Yeah, I just.

[Caroline Hirons]

Creek.

[Emily English]

Yeah.

[Caroline Hirons]

Not what I was expecting. Excellent. Right? Death row meal. I prefer to say desert island meal. Death row seems very negative, but death row meal, starter, main, and dessert.

[Emily English]

This berry changed. Like, change every time. Today.

[Caroline Hirons]

Today.

[Emily English]

Okay. So starter, I would have amazing warm breads with salty butter and also really peppery olive oil so I can, like, dip dab. And then I'd have, like, sashimi, but from, like, Endo. You know, Endo San, the sushi chef. Just, like the sexy sushi. Like, fatty tuna, scallop, yellowtail, all that good stuff. And then main. So it's gotta be a steak from Dorian Restaurant in Notting Hill. You will never have a better steak in your life.

[Caroline Hirons]

What kind of steak Is it.

[Emily English]

It's a. Again, I'm gonna sound really fancy. It's a English wagyu.

[Caroline Hirons]

I knew you were gonna say wagyu. No, but it's not a good way.

[Emily English]

It's not Japanese wagyu. It's like a massive slab of, like, woof. And Danny, manager, like, isn't it the best egg ever?

[Caroline Hirons]

Okay, that's me. Well, I live in Shepherd's Bush, so Notting Hill for me is kushti. There we go.

[Emily English]

You gotta go. They don't serve bearnaise, but I'll have a side of bearnaise. And then at 45 Park Lane, they do this spinach that has an egg on. So it's cream spinach with an egg. I know it sounds weird.

[Caroline Hirons]

Oh, no, eggy spinach. Delish.

[Emily English]

They. And then they chop it up in a match. The best cream spinach you'll ever have in your life.

[Caroline Hirons]

See, that's actually a northern thing. Stick an egg on it.

[Emily English]

Oh, really?

[Caroline Hirons]

A stick a fried egg on it? It's a whole Peter K joke. When Peter K left, he went to uni. Hated it, so he wanted to go home. And he called. He was scared he was going to get battered by his mum. His words. So he called from the phone booth at the bottom of the road and he went, all right, ma'am, I'm just checking in. And she said, oh, what are you doing? And he said, oh. And he said, what are you having for tea? I'm just doing tea, love. And he said, what you having? And she went, chicken Kiev, chips and an egg on top. And he went home. Didn't go back to uni.

[Emily English]

An egg on top makes everything better. Like, am I wrong? Like, if it's.

[Caroline Hirons]

No, I love an egg on top.

[Emily English]

Stick an egg on it.

[Caroline Hirons]

Stick an egg on it. When in doubt, stick an egg on it.

[Emily English]

So then, yeah, then it will be that with Bennett's. And dessert, sticky toffee pudding with ice cream, not cream. And probably a scoop of pistachio gelato as well.

[Caroline Hirons]

Nice. Any particular drink?

[Emily English]

I'd have a Negroni, but from this beach club in Sicily that's so old school and rustic. The umbrellas are, like, blue and yellow and they're so, like, perfectly plastic and chic. And I love it. They did the best Negroni ever, like, on this random stony beach. In a glass as well. And then I have a glass, champagne, preferably Krug, if I had to choose. And then white. I'm gonna sound like a bit of a tosser here. I'd have Like a Pouly Montrache from Domain of Lev and then red. I would probably have sommelier here at dinner.

[Caroline Hirons]

Wow.

[Emily English]

Probably have a. Like. I love a Rhone. Like a red Roan from France. Like super beautiful and amazing year 2006.

[Caroline Hirons]

Fucking El. She can do years.

[Emily English]

I told you I'm gonna sound like a tosser. Wow.

[Caroline Hirons]

I don't think you sound like a tosser. It's just made the rest of us feel like a peasant.

[Emily English]

And then a peppermint tea and that's just ruined it.

[Caroline Hirons]

No, you're not having a peppermint tea. Okay. We're gonna do beauty and then food. This or that. You ready? Boots are super drug boots. Bold eye or bold lip? Bold Lip dewy or matte skin?

[Emily English]

Dewy.

[Caroline Hirons]

Obviously. Lipstick or lip gloss? Lip gloss obviously. AM Routine or PM Routine. PM Space and chaos or fora space and gay? Makeup brush or makeup sponge?

[Emily English]

Makeup brush.

[Caroline Hirons]

My kind of woman. Food sweet or savoury?

[Emily English]

Savoury.

[Caroline Hirons]

Ms. Or Waitrose M s?

[Emily English]

Honestly, I'm not like I'm a breakfast or dinner at dinner.

[Caroline Hirons]

Nando's or Wagger?

[Emily English]

Nando's.

[Caroline Hirons]

What's your Nando's order?

[Emily English]

Butterfly chicken chips. I like the salad they have with the feta on as well. And a Diet Coke.

[Caroline Hirons]

What Salt. What flavor?

[Emily English]

Flavor? Diet Coke.

[Caroline Hirons]

No, no, that's. That's five, guys. No. What flavor? Lemon and herb. Meal out or delivery at home? Meal out or meal out or cook in?

[Emily English]

Meal out. Because I love restaurants so much, but depends what mood I'm in.

[Caroline Hirons]

Full English or a Sunday roast?

[Emily English]

Sunday roast.

[Caroline Hirons]

Fancy dinner or a pub lunch?

[Emily English]

Pub lunch.

[Caroline Hirons]

Nice. And then the final question. What's your favorite sandwich? This has caused more like. I'll put it there. After this, people usually go. And then everyone goes to lunch and there's like. Comes back with all this food. Okay, don't say anything too healthy. Don't let us down. Come on. Okay.

[Emily English]

Granary bread.

[Caroline Hirons]

No, you've lost me.

[Emily English]

No, listen, listen. Granary breads. Butter. Salted butter.

[Caroline Hirons]

Yeah.

[Emily English]

Sharp Cheddar cheese. Branston pickle. Sliced cucumber.

[Caroline Hirons]

Cucumber on a cheese and pickle sandwich.

[Emily English]

Gives just tiny bit. Pickled as well maybe, but just gives that crunchy freshness.

[Caroline Hirons]

Okay, you can make me dinner, but you're not making me a sandwich. What's yours favorite sandwich today? It depends. But it wouldn't involve cheese pickle and cucumber.

[Emily English]

I love cheese and pickle.

[Caroline Hirons]

If I was, you know, if this was 50 years ago. Ma'am, are you pregnant? I mean, Cucumber on a cheese and.

[Emily English]

Pickle is like, is that sacrilege?

[Caroline Hirons]

But I love that. But. But Tom's being a gentleman. Tom's like, yeah, I could see that, Emily. Such a brown moser.

[Emily English]

I do.

[Caroline Hirons]

I'm.

[Emily English]

If I'm gonna say your sandwich. No, no, if I'm gonna say my sandwich, there's a. I did this hot girl herby chicken pitta. It's in the recipe book as well. Phenomenal.

[Caroline Hirons]

But what's the tuna one you do?

[Emily English]

Oh, the tuna melt. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Caroline Hirons]

See do you know I love all sandwiches.

[Emily English]

It's like trying to pick like.

[Caroline Hirons]

Isn't it song, Isn't it?

[Emily English]

Yeah, it depends what mood.

[Caroline Hirons]

And people who say, I don't really eat sandwiches.

[Emily English]

You're missing out a whole wonderful part of your life.

[Caroline Hirons]

See, it's not just me.

[Emily English]

Vitamin S. Vitamin sandwich.

[Caroline Hirons]

Vitamin S. Well, that's a great place to end. Vitamin S. You hid it here. You hid it here first. I haven't even had any caffeine. You heard it here first, Emily. Thank you.

[Emily English]

Thank you.

[Caroline Hirons]

All my days. That was. I mean, that was a lot, but in a good way. I've just got lots of copious notes to make now.

[Emily English]

Full. Like, I think. I think people don't realize what a fountain of knowledge I think nutrition actually covers. It's like so much to know.

[Caroline Hirons]

How long is a course? Just before we bug.

[Emily English]

I did three years. I did my three year BSc and then I continue to study now, but I do my own self study. So I'll go on PubMed. Yeah, I'll go through. Yeah, I can read basically scientifically. Try and be able to just work out. Nurse enough.

[Caroline Hirons]

Yeah, you're like that. I mean, I do that when I see things, I'm like, oh, bollocks. Oh, there's something in this.

[Emily English]

Everyone takes a stat and they're like, it's got all the answers. And you're like, hey, where's the stat from?

[Caroline Hirons]

Who paid for the.

[Emily English]

Who paid for the study? Yeah, yeah.

[Caroline Hirons]

Oh, nice. Thank you very much.

[Emily English]

No, thanks for having me.

[Caroline Hirons]

Loved it.

[Emily English]

Loved it.

[Caroline Hirons]

And that's a wrap for this week. Thanks for listening. I'm back on Monday with a new guest, so make sure you tune in. Until then. I'm glad we had this chat. New episodes are available every Monday and Wednesday. Follow us. Subscribe now on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Glad we had this chat is produced by Wall to Wall Media.

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