A (5:07)

Has the government responded yet to these protests?

B (5:11)

Not with the sort of violence that we've seen before, but we should not expect them to, you know, hold fire if this goes out to major streets and major cities again. So they obviously are careful at this point and not to immediately employ the kind of violence they did on January, January 8th and 9th, because everybody's watching in ways that has never been, you know, recorded before. Everybody is like sort of on their toes waiting to see if they'll respond, but that doesn't mean that they won't if they feel that this could turn again into something that we saw 40 days ago.

A (5:50)

We know that the United States has more military presence now near Iran. Donald Trump says he's considering some kind of military strike potentially. Are people in the streets now worried about that as well?

B (6:02)

I mean, Iran is not a monolith. It's a country of 80 million people. And whoever claims to know what everybody thinks is probably not telling the truth. Truth. So obviously there are a considerable part of the population that is very much in favor of a foreign intervention because they feel that this government has employed the kind of brutality that unarmed protesters cannot counter it. There are other parts of the society that obviously have the Traumas of the 12 Day War in June and are worried about what could happen and what the consequences of a full out war might be. So there are all kinds of feelings and obviously even in some people the duality of welcoming a foreign intervention at the same time being worried about the consequences of it.

A (6:48)

Bahman Khalvassi of BBC Persian Countries around the world are reviewing their trade deals with the United States after the Supreme Court ruled that most of Donald Trump's sweeping tariffs were illegal because he'd used powers meant for a national emergency. The president then quickly announced a new 10% levy on imports under a different law and has now increased that to 15%, fuelling global uncertainty. Seema Jalawasho reports from Washington.

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President Trump has continued to react to the Supreme Court ruling today, announcing on Truth Social he was increasing global tariffs further to 15%. They are likely to come into effect on Tuesday, but can last just 150 days before requiring congressional approval. In his post, Mr. Trump said over the next few months his administration will continue to determine and issue new permissible tariffs, insisting it will bring in even more money than the previous tariff regime. But many businesses and Mr. Trump's political opponents see the court ruling as a significant blow to his approach. The Democratic governor of California, Gavin Newsom, has said the administration now needs to offer refunds.

A (7:57)

The tariffs were illegal from day one.

B (7:58)

A tax increase on ranchers, on farmers, on small businesses. On you and me, Donald Trump should return that money immediately, pay us back, put that money back in the pockets

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of working families and the American people. The governor of Illinois, J.B. pritzker, sent Mr. Trump an invoice demanding nearly $9 billion in tariff refunds for families in his state. But it's not clear that any money will be paid back. That could take years of legal wrangling. The Republican speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, said the president's use of tariffs had been brought in billions of dollars and helped secure strong trade agreements for America.

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Sumit Jalawa show and for more analysis from this team, you can go to YouTube, search for BBC News and click on the logo, then choose Podcasts and Global News Podcast. There's a new story available every weekday. Earlier this month, Canada suffered one of its Worst ever school shootings. Eight people were killed and 27 others were injured. It's now emerged that months before the killings, the 18 year old suspect reportedly asked ChatGPT the about scenarios involving gun violence. Those posts were flagged and the account was banned. But the company that runs the chatbot OpenAI, decided not to refer the matter to police. So what should tech companies do in these kinds of situations? Dex Hunter Torick works for a non profit organization looking at how society is adapting to the age of AI. He's been speaking to my colleague Layla Nathoo.

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This is a extraordinary, sophisticated company with immense resources and one that is used by hundreds of millions of people all over the world, including lots of users, you know, from very vulnerable communities. This is a company which has a duty of care towards not just its users, but towards society at large. And not only did they fail to take action and something that led to eight Canadian lives being lost, they actually debated it internally and then decided not to act. And it's something that clearly raises serious questions, not just about OpenAI and its leadership and how it's effectively protecting users, but also clearly about regulations and how governments should be thinking about ensuring that chatbots aren't being used for things that lead to terrible tragedies like this.

D (10:11)

I don't think everyone will be aware of the fact that when you are inputting something into ChatGPT, essentially everything you are asking is being scanned by OpenAI. Can you just talk us through the kinds of ways that is happening?

E (10:26)

There are a range of systems which are both automated. You think about the massive volume of content and queries that are moving through OpenAI servers. But there's also human reviewers who, when AI flags patterns of disturbing behaviors using those chatbots, which may be based on keywords but other things as well, then a human will look at this and that's what actually happened in this case. We know that there were human reviewers on the OpenAI side who looked at what was happening here, and there was an internal debate within the company about whether this should be flagged to law enforcement, and the company subsequently chose not to until after the attack had taken place.

D (11:01)

And importantly, OpenAI itself is deciding on the threshold at which they would deem it necessary to refer to law enforcement.

E (11:12)

That's right, exactly. So OpenAI has a set of policies which say that they require a credible and imminent risk of serious physical harm to trigger a law enforcement referral. And what I understand the company is arguing is, is that policy didn't apply because in fact there wasn't an imminent risk of harm. This was something that unfolded many months earlier, and it didn't seem to meet whatever threshold of risk. I mean, this is the challenge. You have companies that are setting standards in this case that clearly did not meet the moment, and they're then grading their own homework. They're saying, we actually have complied with our own policies here. And this is something which is very, very concerning. It's obviously something that companies, I think, need to be much more transparent about how they are actually approaching these situations. But more than that, you know, I think these are matters that are too consequential to be left just to the tech companies alone.

A (12:01)

Dex Hunter Torick from the center for Tomorrow the Berlin Film Festival is considered as one of the top international festivals alongside Cannes and Venice, and is often the largest in terms of drawing in audiences. This year's event, though, has been marred by controversy after comments from the organizers about politics. Stephanie Prentice has this report.

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Yellow Letters took home the coveted Golden Bear Award for best film. It tells the story of two Turkish artists who lose their jobs due to political persecution.

B (12:38)

We saw your film as a terrifying premonition, a look into the near future. It got under the skin of all of us who see the signs of despotism in their country or in their neighborhood.

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The president of the festival's jury, Wim Wenders, announcing the winner and seemingly smoothing over tense relations after saying filmmakers should stay out of politics. When asked about the German government supporting Israel that sparked outrage online and on the ground, with some artists pulling their work or refusing to attend altogether. Accepting the award, Yellow Letters director Ilke Catarrk addressed the infighting head on.

B (13:18)

There is a scene in Yellow Letters where former companions and friends argue with each other. It reminded me of the last few days here in Berlin. The real threat is not among us.

C (13:30)

It is out there.

B (13:32)

It's the autocrats, it's the right wing parties, it's the nihilists of our time who try to come to power and destroy our way of living. Let's not fight each other, let's fight them.

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Before the ceremony, more than 100 actors and filmmakers signed a letter condemning the festival's silence on Gaza, and during it, a number of winners and presenters criticized Israel's conduct in the war as well as the German government, using their speeches primarily to make political points.

F (14:09)

Last night

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my grandfather spoke to me.

A (14:16)

This is a sign.

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The film Salvation, about a rural dispute that leads to a massacre, took the second place Silverbear Prize for its exploration of the dangers of dehumanizing others accepting it, director Emin Alper expressed solidarity with high profile opposition figures in prison in his native Turkey and later on the red carpet, made no apologies.

C (14:42)

Since my film is political, my position

B (14:44)

is obvious and nowadays in the world, around the world, especially in my country,

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you cannot stay out of politics. It's impossible.

C (14:51)

We don't have this luxury because politics

B (14:53)

is determining every sphere.

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As I told in the speech, my

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friend is in prison so I cannot

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stay out of politics. I know what's happening to her.

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Understand?

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I do. Elsewhere, Queen itself, a drama that follows French star Juliette Binoche managing her mother's dementia, won two prizes and Nina Rosa, about an art curator verifying work by a child prodigy, won best screenplay. Closing the ceremony, the festival's chief recognized it had been an emotionally charged edition, but said that showed the event doing its job and cinema doing its job.

A (15:34)

Stephanie Prentice still to come in this

B (15:39)

podcast, after 90 minute, they would go straight to penalties and do a shootout

A (15:44)

Japan's plan to make football more interesting by getting rid of Draws.

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As battles rage on for more of the Epstein files to be released the documents we have so far have painted a picture of an ecosystem surrounding a powerful, rich and well connected sex offender. Due to the sheer scale of emails and images to get through, journalists are still excavating the files. Guardian reporter Amelia Gentleman has picked up

D (18:16)

on one trend for women, these files offer an unprecedented chance to eavesdrop on conversations from which we are usually excluded. Pluck any message at random from the millions that have been released and you'll understand something new about what a cast of distinguished global figures are thinking and saying about women when they assume the women aren't listening. Most fascinating for me has been the way the files exposed the workings of a global patriarchy in action. I think sometimes the word patriarchy makes people feel a bit uncomfortable. It's become unfashionable, perhaps because it can sound a bad tempered accusatory term or an unsubtle framing that doesn't reflect the nuances of modern life, where we like to believe we're inching towards greater gender equality. But reading the files convinced me that this actually is the best word to describe the environment in which Epstein exists. This is a world where the men are rich and powerful and the women are not. The emails showcase the private behavior of a male ruling class as they network, joke and trade information. Women exist at the periphery, tolerated only because they organize the diaries of the busy men, they arrange the food, they provide sex. Epstein is endlessly trying to bring together important people for dinner in New York or on his Caribbean island. One day he might wake up and decide that he will organize a couple of seminars on power and on money. So he instructs his secretary, a woman, to start contacting 20 or so influential people. It doesn't occur to Epstein to invite any women to these gatherings, and no one remarks on their absence. There are two groups of people in the Epstein files the men, the billionaires, the tech entrepreneurs, the bankers, statesmen, leaders, and the women who exist as insignificant plus ones or as the people he doles out money to because they're providing him with services. Women feature as objects to be looked at and improved. They have teeth that need fixing, sexually transmitted infections that must be treated, plastic surgery that needs to be booked. It might be tempting to dismiss these files as just evidence of the unpleasant behaviour of a lone convicted sex offender. But the emails reveal how many of Epstein's eminent acquaintances behave just like him. They simply fail to notice that they are operating in a world mostly unpeopled by women, apart from those who are there for sex.

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Amelia. Gentlemen. Despite hundreds of meetings, including recent talks between Russia, Ukraine and the United States aimed at ending Moscow's war in Ukraine, there still hasn't been a breakthrough. Tuesday will mark the fourth anniversary since the start of the conflict. Nearly 2 million soldiers on both sides have been killed or injured, with millions of civilians forced from their homes. Our correspondent James Beardsworth was based in Moscow at the time of the invasion. He's been looking at how the country has changed.

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Almost four years ago, Russian President Vladimir Putin launched a full scale invasion of neighboring Ukraine. On that morning, I stepped out to a stunned Moscow. As I walked from Red Square and wandered up Arbatch Street, I asked people for their reaction to the news.

A (21:51)

One person went mad and attacked another country. Everything will be fine. There won't be a war. Ukraine will be crushed and that will be it.

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For Ukrainians, the war would mean the destruction of cities, millions of its citizens displaced and hundreds of thousands more killed and injured. In Russia, wartime crackdowns and sanctions were about to reshape life. New laws banned criticism of Russia's armed forces. Almost all the country's independent media organizations left anti war protests. Thousands of people were arrested. Vlad recalls how the war was felt not just in the streets, but also divided friends and family.

B (22:32)

My dad, he was so pro Kremlin. We argued a lot. Last year he unfortunately passed away and we've never covered our relationship.

C (22:42)

Estimates say as many as 1 million people have left Russia since 2022. Many of those fled in the early days of the war, while a partial mobilization in September 2022 led to another exodus.

B (22:54)

I was one of ministers in local administration.

C (22:58)

Mikhail, not his real name for safety reasons, was a regional politician up until January 2022. After arguing with the governor, he lost his job. Ten months later, he received a military summons to go to Ukraine.

B (23:11)

After I knew that, I left Russia.

C (23:13)

After leaving to Kazakhstan, Mikhail flew to the uae, then Mexico, and then walked over the border to the US where he claimed asylum. I asked him where he is now.

A (23:22)

I live in my truck, so I'm

B (23:25)

truck driver for three years and now I'm in My truck at Staten Island,

C (23:30)

N.Y. at the start of the war, Ilya Yashin was widely described as Russia's most senior opposition figure. Not in prison, but or in exile.

B (23:39)

I was in the park with my friend and suddenly a group of policemen came to me. They told me that criminal case against me opened and from this day I spent 25 months in the prison.

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In August 2024, Yashin was released in a prisoner swap between the US and Russia. The deal came just months after perhaps the biggest blow to Russia's opposition.

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There's been an outpouring of grief around the world for election.

C (24:07)

His death struck at the heart of Russia's already beleaguered opposition. Yashin told me more.

B (24:13)

Navalny death made a huge hole and it's very difficult to change Navalny to any other person.

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The BBC has identified the names of 186,000 Russian soldiers that have been killed in Ukraine during that time. Though President Putin's popularity has continued to grow, according to independent pollster the Levada Center. Jeremy not his real name, from the small town of Naginsk in the outskirts of Moscow, says many of his friends support the war. The bigger threat to President Putin's popularity, analysts say, is Russia's struggling economy, weakened by almost four years of Western sanctions.

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When I used to work, I had a lot of money left for travel, for some fun. But now almost all my income goes to food.

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That instability and a war that continues to drag on means that for Mikhail, he doesn't know if he'll ever return home.

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Now I don't feel like I have homeland.

B (25:11)

I chose the way of immigrant.

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James Beardsworth with that report. Thailand is home to a critically endangered population of Indo Chinese tigers. But it also has a lucrative trade in tiger tourism. Visitors flock to controversial private parks to take pictures with the animals. In fact, there are more tigers in captivity than in the wild. And now, in one of the worst incidents of its kind, a virus has killed at least 72 captive tigers in the northern Chiang Mai province. Officials are trying to contain the outbreak. Our reporter Tom Bailey told us more.

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The authorities have described this as a really unusual situation, and they're understandably keen to get to the bottom of what's caused these 72 deaths over the last two weeks and of course, to limit any further spread. And preliminary tests seem to point towards this highly contagious disease known as feline parvovirus. It's a really unpleasant condition that attacks an animal's digestive system and immune response and causes some pretty unpleasant symptoms, including vomiting, diarrhea loss of appetite and high fever. And vets have pointed out that unlike domestic pets like cats and dogs, as humans are not in close contact with tigers, it's often really hard to spot these symptoms until it's too late.

A (26:27)

They had loads of tigers at this site, were split into two sites, but they haven't had an outbreak for a long, long time of anything similar. We've got to go back more than 20 years I think.

F (26:36)

Yeah. As I say, this is a very unusual case, but it isn't the first time Thailand's seen an incident of mass deaths of captive cats. In 2004 there was an outbreak of bird flu in eastern Thailand that actually almost saw almost 150 tigers die or actually be euthanized to prevent the spread. The outbreak and this case was actually blamed on chicken carcasses that have been fed to the tigers. And that's where they believed the bird flu had come from back in 2004. But yeah, very, very rare, hasn't happened for a long time.

A (27:05)

Is there anything else that can be done in this latest case to try and stop it from spreading further? Protecting other animals at the zoo?

F (27:12)

What's going on now is an effort to, as I say, limit the spread. So there's enhanced disinfection measures going on at the zoos and the wildlife facilities. There's also a plan to roll out vaccines for healthy animals to prevent them cat this. And also there's quarantine going on as well. So many of the animals that haven't actually been infected yet are being isolated away to protect them. So there's a raft of measures to go on. And one thing that the authorities are really keen to stress here is that this isn't an illness that can spread to humans. So that's something that is obviously important to say here. This is only affecting animals and isn't going to spread to humans. But the animal rights organization PETA is not happy. It's issued a statement in response to the deaths. It's criticizing the keeping of big cats in captivity and claims that the tigers died in the way that they lived. It says in misery, confinement and in

A (28:02)

fear, Tom Bailey Draws in football are boring. At least that's the view in Japan. Its top flight J League is experimenting with getting rid of draws altogether. So if a match is tied after 90 minutes, it goes straight to penalties. Dan Olovitz is a Japan based football journalist.

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We are currently in the middle of the J League 100 year Vision League which is a spring competition that is being used to transition the league to a European, European style fall spring schedule. Over a year ago when this league was announced, the league said that basically the plan would be no promotion, no relegation and also no draws so that after 90 minute they would go straight to penalties and do a shootout. So that's what we're seeing so far. And overall there's actually been a fair number of games that have gone to shootouts, including five today alone in the J2 and J300 year vision. League chairman Yoshikazu Nomomura talked about this when they announced their plans about how there was a desire to give J League players more experience taking penalties in high pressure situation ahead of international competitions like the AFC Champions League, the Asian cup and the World Cup. We all know how things ended in 2022 and 2010. So Japan is still looking to get through to the quarterfinals. And this is one way to give not to players but also goalkeepers the experience of being in such high pressure situations.

A (29:24)

Bobby Seagal is the education ambassador at Britain's West Ham Football Club. He thinks the game needs to change to keep younger fans entertained.

B (29:32)

I'm a football traditionalist, but I look

D (29:34)

at what my students do.

B (29:35)

How do they consume football? They're watching highlights, Reels, TikTok and Instagram clips and even why Amazon prime experimented with the sort of prime vision where there's stats overlaid with the real game. And this is the big thing. Football is in an existential crisis with viewing. And if you look at the let's say 18 to 24s, only 1/3 will watch live football. You look at the over 55s, it's three quarters. So football, if it doesn't adapt, it will die, I think. And again, football has historically been a sport. Unlike West Ham's defenders. This year, the backline of our supporter, football has never stood still. The way goals rule, that's been changed in the Champions League, the back pass rule, remember in the 90s, the Football World Cup Italy 1993.3. And that was to encourage attacking football. So once again I will again I will tell my students, no, football should always be about purists. You know, Wolves, Arsenal, two, two this week. You never get that if it had penalties. But I think football needs to take into account young people now. Football is not just competing against football, it's competing Against Twitch streams, YouTube. Young people have a whole cornucopia of

F (30:36)

things that football needs to fight back.

A (30:37)

Bobby Seagull. And that's all from us for now. If you'd like to get in touch, do email globalpodcastbc.com you can also find us on X@BBC World Service. Just use the hashtag globalnewspod. There's also our sister podcast, the Global Story, which goes in depth and beyond the headlines on one big story that's available wherever you get your podcasts. This edition of the Global News Podcast was mixed by Holly Smith. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Chris Barrow. And until next time, goodbye.

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