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Iran warns Trump against joining war with Israel
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Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei says Iran will never surrender
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Around aid distribution centers, we hear what Palestinians think about of the conflict between Israel and Iran and tennis legend Martina Navratilova talks to us about her career, why she's worried about the future direction of the US and her views on transgender athletes in sport. We still are lagging behind the guys and there's a boy that now has a ponytail and nail polish and identifies as a girl. And now these girls are like I can't compete against that. I have no chance. Also in this podcast, how French police are attempting to stop migrants making the danger dangerous journey across the English Channel to the UK and the potentially groundbreaking research on development of human organs for transplants coming out of China. Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has said his country will never surrender in its conflict with Israel and warned the United States that it will suffer irreparable harm if it intervenes. This is an extract of his address played on Iranian state TV. Mr. Khamenei said that Iran had expected these attacks from Israel, but that his country will stand firm against them as well as any imposed peace. It comes after more strikes by Israel, focusing on Iranian missile sites and facilities, making parts for the machines that, that enrich uranium centrifuges. And on the ground in Iran, the effects of the Israeli strikes are becoming clearer with shortages to food and fuel. Qasr Al Nasji is from the BBC's Persian service. He told me more about the speech made by Iran's supreme leader. It's the first time he appears after a few days. In fact, he's been quiet and we don't know where he's been because obviously Israel is after him. They want to take him out, and I suppose he's in hiding someplace. It was a surprise to see him appear on Iranian television in video, and he's speaking. We don't know where it is, but it's very typical of him, very defiant and a hard line. His message to it's basically message to the outside world, to Americans and the Israelis, that he says, in the same way as the Iranian nation will stand firm in the war that has been imposed on it, the Iranian nation will stand firm against an impositioned peace. So he's saying that we will resist, we will go on fighting, and we will not give in to an imposed peace. Don't forget, President Trump has been calling for him and Iran to surrender, basically, and he's saying no way. And then there's also a warning to the American side saying the Americans should know that any of any involvement by them in the war will cost them heavily. With this sort of rhetoric and language, do you feel that Iran are prepared to dig in for a long conflict? Well, he seems to be sort of indicating that's the policy, but we don't know. I mean, things are pretty chaotic in terms of what's happening on the ground and how far these attacks are going to go and what impact they will have on the regime as a whole and how far they will weaken the regime. That weakening will be significant enough for the regime to collapse or be in a position not being able to control things. We don't know all that. But for the moment, he's defiant and he's calling on Iranians to stand firm and fight this out, which is all well and good, but I guess what are the effects that these strikes are actually having on Iranian people, everyone you talk to? It's very difficult to get through, by the way. The Internet is down most of the time, but it comes up and goes away. WhatsApp works. I talked to my sister as one of the people. She's still in Iran. She hasn't left in Tehran, hasn't left the capital. But when you talk to her, you can see fear, you can hear stress, and they just basically don't know what to do, where to go, how long is this going to go, how this is going to end, basically. Qasr Al Naji with that update. But if Israel's strikes against Iran are proving devastating, Iran's reciprocal strikes are much less so. Although ferociously expensive, Israel's defense shield is holding. And meanwhile, it has freedom of the skies over Iran and seems to be reaching targets it considers vital to its campaign. Our correspondent in Jerusalem is Sebastian Usher. Well, the message is really the same it's been giving each day since it started, that it is aiming at, you know, all the military infrastructure of Iran and the nuclear facilities and that it's, it's pursuing that. I think it's interesting actually to say the messaging has changed just in the last few minutes here in Israel, though, there has been from the home front command a message sent out saying that the restrictions on people's movement, which meant that only essential movement was being allowed for most of the country, is now being changed to limited movement will be allowed, which means that the closing down that there's been of Israel will begin to lift. I think that comes after there have now been two nights in which there have been no fatalities. Overnight there were, According to the IDF, around 20 missiles that were fired. Perhaps it's a feeling that at least for now, the worst fears of what Israel felt Iran might be able to accomplish have been passed over. I mean, the Israeli defense minister has hailed this as a sign of victory, but warned people here not to take this as a sign that it's over and to stay very vigilant about any future attacks. America is considering giving more support. How's this being viewed? Well, as you can imagine, I mean, as far as the Israeli government is concerned, as far as the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is concerned, I mean, that's what he wants. I mean, he went it alone. Despite last week President Trump saying that that's not what the US Wanted and that the US still wanted to continue down the road of talks potentially with Iran over its nuclear ambitions. Mr. Netanyahu didn't heed that. The indications we've had is that the US Was informed and did essentially say that he could go ahead. And since then, President Trump has changed his tune completely so that now he seems foursquare behind this. He's even talking about we and our in terms of the attacks that Israel is carrying out. The big question is whether he and his security advisers will decide to give Israel what I think the prime minister here most wants, which is the capacity which only the US can provide for the level of bomb that could perhaps blow up the deep underground nuclear facilities, particularly in Fordot that Iran has and without that, the way that it's been framed. This offensive by the Israeli prime minister first, but now it seems very much by President Trump, is that the only real end to this is if that is achieved. Sebastian Asher While the world's attention is on Israel and Iran, the suffering in Gaza continues. There have been more reports of deaths in the strip around aid distribution centers as Palestinians wait for desperately needed food supplies. This woman cried over the body of her brother outside of Al Shifa Hospital in Gaza City where some of the victims of Israeli airstrikes and the shootings near aid centers were brought this morning. Our correspondent Rushdie Abu Alouf who's in Cairo gave us this update. About nine or ten additional people were killed around the food distribution center in central Gaza, this time near one of the centers, bringing the number to 61 people killed near distribution centers just in the last 24 hours. And in total, the Hamas run civil defense spokesman told me this morning that about 412 people were killed in the last two weeks around food distribution center. This is a very high number. Just show that this mission of getting food has become like a killing point for Palestinians and daily routine when we talk to people, why you are risking your life, they said we are starving, our kids are starving and we have no other option but to go to the places to get some food. Well, people are feeling that they are forgetting while all the focus on media and all the international focus, then this new escalation between Iran and Israel, when we did ask people about how they feel about this Iran, Israel escalation, one of the guys, I mean one of the people in Gaza told me that Iran has never built a hospital in Gaza or a school. They only supported Hamas, they gave Hamas weapons. And the outcome of what happened in October 7, Iran is part of it. So many people, they don't feel sympathize with the Iranian people. But on the other hand, they feel happy to see buildings collapsing in Israel and they have been posting on social media many times saying that anybody is hitting Israel is helping Palestinians. This is what many Palestinians in Gaza feel about this recent escalation. Rushdie Abu Alouf More support for Ukraine that's The message from G7 leaders at the end of the summit of powerful nations in Alberta. What that support looks like, though, is not entirely clear. At the close of the ceremony, the host, Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney, outlined what was on its way to Kiev. We're launching a major new package of sanctions on individuals, on companies, on vessels, the shadow fleet to exert maximum pressure on Russia. We're also sending over $2 billion in funding for drones, ammunition, armored vehicles to help Ukrainians defend their territory. Canadian officials said Washington had blocked a stronger statement after the US President Donald Trump left the international conference early. Our diplomatic editor James Landell is following events. This G7 summit has illustrated all the strengths and the weaknesses of an event like this. The strengths are that you get Western leaders coming together, able to speak to one another face to face. Mark Carney, the host of Canadian prime Minister, said it was a way of building trust and relationships in a way that you simply can't do in any other forum. It's also a moment when Western leaders can actually get face to face with Donald Trump and try and shape some of the thinking and some of the thoughts that might be going into his head so that he gets different opinions and not the rich brew that he just gets in Washington. But for all that, there are clear weaknesses. And the first weaknesses was evidenced by the fact that Donald Trump left this summit early and that took all the air out of this event as a diplomatic moment because at that point there were a lot of leaders here unable to talk to Mr. Trump, unable to get their points across. And it also just left the summit, I'm afraid, with a sense of aimlessness. You could feel the atmosphere had gone down. And that was evidenced by the fact that the G7 leaders couldn't really agree on the big issues of the day. On the Israel, Iran war, yes, they did agree a statement, but it was a pretty watered down statement, a diplomatic compromise designed to get the Americans on side, not putting much pressure on either side to do anything, certainly not calling for a ceasefire. And on the other big conflict affecting so much of the global economy, the war by Russia against Ukraine, there was no joint statement by these leaders. Instead there was merely a statement put out by Mr. Carney, the Canadian prime minister, saying that, yes, all leaders were, and I quote, resolute in exploring all options to maximize pressure on Russia. He insisted the Americans, Donald Trump agreed to that orally, but the Americans were not prepared to put their name to that on a piece of paper with a signature. So, as ever with these summits, yes, some useful conversations. But again, an illustration of differences of opinion by some of the world's most powerful liberal economists. Our diplomatic editor, James Landell. Still to come in the global news podcast, it's a very exciting field of kind of generating organs and tissues in host animal embryos. How research by Chinese scientists may be a future game changer in the field of human organ transplants. In less than two weeks time, the most famous tournament in world tennis, Wimbledon, gets underway. The legendary Martina Navratilova won a record nine Wimbledon singles titles. She's been speaking to the BBC's Amal Rajan about her career, the state of tennis and the country she's called her home for the past 50 years, the United States. She spent three decades at the top of tennis. It's 50 years since Martina Navratilova defected from Czechoslovakia as a teenager to pursue her career in the US I just felt that if I want to become number one, which I want to, that I couldn't do it under the circumstances. At home, her life has had its struggles. Just over two years ago, she was treated for cancer for the second time. How's your health right now? It's all good, knock on wood. Yeah, all clear and no side effects at all. The cure was hell, but the aftermath has been great. And I was lucky on that front because people can have lifelong issues. No salivary glands. The voice box can be affected swallowing, so I need to chew my food a little bit better, but that's about it. So I'm good. What's the biggest challenge facing women in tennis today? It's still trying to get the corporate money because we still are lacking and lagging behind the guys in financials. And also, men's sports has been around for 150 years. Women's sports is very young. And it's just the right thing to do. We'll talk about the right thing to do. I want to get your views on trans athletes in sports. You have been very outspoken. So just looking at your social media on Twitter and elsewhere. So for instance, you said it's not for failed male athletes, whatever age. This is not right and it's not fair as you cast it. It's about being fair to Women who are participating. Absolutely. And that there's a certain step ladder that you have to go through before you get to elite sport. So it starts really in high school and then you, you come out to go into your local meet and, and there's a, there's a boy that now has a, you know, ponytail and nail polish and identifies as a girl. That's all fine and well, but the ponytail and nail polish does not a female, female make. And now these girls are like, I can't compete against that. I have no chance. What do you think about where tennis has got to because the WTA permits transgender women to participate if A, they provide a written and signed declaration that they are female or non binary, B, their testosterone levels are below a certain limit for two years and see they sustain those levels. What do you think about that position that they don't? I think it's wrong. I think it's still wrong because number one, you don't lose the five inches of built in height. Average male is five inches taller than a female. Then you add arm length. You got like seven inches. You got this much height just here. So I have to jump this much higher for an overhead as the guy. Well. And he finds as a woman to be on the same, same level. The other subject on which you've been very outspoken of late is your adopted homeland of modern America. And I note that on your pinned tweet on the, on the platform X you say that you grew up in a totalitarian authoritarian country which we've spoken about Czechoslovakia under the Soviet Union. And basically you say you refuse to be someone who lives in another one. Do you really fear America? Your home is turning into a totalitarian authoritarian country. Don't you see that I mean totalitarian? Well, yeah. When they are checking your all your social posts to decide whether you can stay in the country even though you already have legal visa and they want to send you back. How would you like to be remembered in years to come? I'd like to be remembered. Martina Navratilova, thank you so much for your time. Almorajan speaking to the tennis icon that is Martina Navratilova. As final results coming from Mexico's judicial election on 1 June. A former defense lawyer for the notorious drug lord Joaquin El Chapo Guzman has been elected as a judge in northern Mexico. Silvia Delgado defended Guzman before he was deported to the United States and refused to accept that she should have pulled out of the race. From Mexico, our correspondent will grant reports given the complexities of the new judicial voting system it has taken more than two weeks for many results to be properly tallied. But one of the most controversial candidates to win is Silvia Delgado, former defence attorney to the world's most wanted drug lord, now elected to local criminal judge in the northern border city of Ciudad Juarez. Silvia Delgado was part of the defense team for Joaquin El Chapo Guzman when he was brought before a judge in ciudad Juarez in 2017. Her critics say she represents everything that is wrong with voting for judges in Mexico. A leading human rights and transparency organisation said she was one of several candidates with alleged links to organised crime on the ballot sheet and could be compromised as a judge. Speaking to the BBC ahead of the vote, she dismissed the idea that she should step down over her previous ties to a drug cartel. Why should I for doing my job, for defending people's individual guarantees? Why should that make me illegitimate? She said. Meanwhile, the new president of the Supreme Court is Ugo Aguilar Ortiz, an indigenous lawyer from the southern state of Oaxaca. He now becomes the first indigenous person to hold the highest judicial office in Mexico's modern history. Another vote will be held in two years to choose the remaining positions in the judiciary, which weren't filled in this election. Will grant reporting. As the weather in the channel clears, French police are struggling to stop a potentially record breaking surge of people from reaching the UK in small boats organised by a growing network of smuggling gangs. Although the French authorities claim they're now intercepting more than two thirds of the boats before they reach the sea, smugglers are now changing tactics to launch so called taxi boats from new sites in new ways and with greater speed. As our correspondent Andrew Harding reports, it's a clear warm night and the sea is very calm and it's a perfect night for crossings. We are south of Boulogne. It's about two in the morning. We're with a group of French gendarmes. They've got a drone out and they are scanning the forests and the beaches for migrants and for smugglers. They've spotted a group of 30 migrants to the south and another hundred or more a little further north. In charge of this sector is Colonel Olivier Alarie. We're trying to intercept as many of the smugglers boats as possible. We're managing to catch up to 70% of them. It's very satisfactory, but sometimes they're smarter and they managed to surprise us. Speaking of surprises, the police have just heard some frustrating news. There's been a successful boat launch further up the coast. We're rushing off to see what happened. We've arrived at the scene, there's an abandoned black Volvo axle deep in the sand. It's obviously been driven at high speed straight onto the beach. A new tactic. So the smugglers are adapting again. What's happened is the smugglers have inflated their boat near the beach, probably in a barn where the drones couldn't spot it. Then they strapped it to the car roof and drove fast towards the sea, untied it and launched it within a matter of seconds. So the key is speed. It's getting the boat in the water as quickly as possible. To be clear, a taxi boat is a relatively new innovation. The smugglers preferred system. Now they launch their inflatables in secrecy or far away from the main beaches and only then cruise along the coast picking up people already queuing in the water. So we're now driving up the coast trying to chase basically the taxi boat. The police are ahead of us here, and I've just caught a glimpse of what looks like the boat. Well, this is quite a scene. We've come running across the beach near a little town called Wissant. The sun is nearly rising and in the water here I can see maybe 50, 60 people up to their waists and they're waiting as inflatable boat circles round. I'm going to wade out towards the. Hello. We're journalists from BBC from Afghanistan. Are you going to get on? Yeah. You go to England? Yeah. So the group of migrants here waiting to see if they can also get on board the boat here, and kids on parents shoulders and behind me on the coast, on the shore, maybe 20 policemen standing there watching, not intervening, because they say the rules that they have prevent them from going into the water, except if they're going to rescue somebody who's drowning. Andrew Harding reporting. Netflix says it struck a deal with d' Affin that will give its subscribers in France access to the French broadcaster's content. The agreement is the first it's made with a major traditional television company. Risto Pukko reports. The agreement between TF and Netflix makes sense in a number of ways. The US streaming service has traditionally been weak on news, sports and live events, all of which are among the strengths of tfin, the most popular French broadcaster. So the deal will improve the position of Netflix on one of Europe's biggest markets and may provide a template to follow elsewhere. For tpha, working with Netflix gives a way of increasing its reach, but the company says its main focus will be on developing its own streaming service. Risto Pukko Chinese researchers say they've grown beating hearts containing human Cells inside pig embryos. For the first time, it is hoped that this could pave the way to the development of human organs for transplants and ease the long waiting lists. Dr. Naomi Morris works for the Biomedical Research center, the Francis Crick Institute in London. She explained the scientists findings. They've used a genetic trick here where they've edited the pig embryo so that it doesn't have the genes needed to make a particular organ, in this case the heart, and then injected human stem cells into a very early embryo. And the idea is that then the human cells will preferentially go to that kind of missing organ, if you like, in this case the heart, and repopulate it. And so that's the kind of idea, it's called a pig, human chimera. I mean it's a very exciting field of kind of generating organs and tissues in host animal embryos. I think it's very early days for this particular research. We haven't got a paper, it's just a report from a scientific conference. So we would need to see the data to be able to evaluate the claims. But it's certainly an exciting movement forward in the field. I think we're a long way off of patient relevance here though of course the researchers said they could get the embryos to about 21 days. So very early. We don't know what happens to the embryos after that point. So we're a long way off. But I think it's, it's an exciting movement. Definitely. And the movement is in the direction of trying to help with the shortage of transplant organs. Exactly. So I think the goal is to use animal embryos as a kind of container, if you like, of human cells that would contribute to particular organs. So yeah, the idea is to, to generate kind of human specific organs within these embryos. But like I say, we're a very long way off. A lot of the previous reports have had very low efficiencies or very low percentage of human cells in those organs. So there's a lot of work to be done. And ethical concerns. Yeah, of course, I think it's not really clear exactly sort of the ethical status of these chimeras as they're called. That's definitely a kind of wider discussion that we need to have and whether there are particular organs that might have ethical implications above others. Dr. Naomi Morris speaking to the BBC's Emma Barnett. And that's all from us for now. But there will be a new edition of the Global news podcast later if you want to comment on this podcast or the topics covered in it. You can send us an email. The address is globalpodcastbc.co.uk and you can also find us on X, formerly known as Twitter BCWorldService. You can use the hashtag GlobalNewspod. The edition was mixed by Holly Smith and the producer was Isabella Jewell. The editor is Karen Martin and I'm Ankrda Sai. Until next time. Goodbye.