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Mike Johnson survives razor-thin vote to remain US House Speaker
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Three Republicans had originally voted against him
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Janak Jalil
This is the global news podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Janat Jalil and in the early hours of Saturday, the 4th of January, these are our main stories. In a nail biting vote, the speaker of the U.S. house of Representatives, Mike Johnson, who's been backed by Donald Trump, narrowly holds onto his job. President Joe Biden blocks the takeover of America's third biggest steel maker by a Japanese company. Hamas says that indirect negotiations with Israel have resumed in Qatar for a ceasefire in Gaza and the release of Israeli hostages. Also in this podcast. Hey Siri.
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Nicola Coughlan
Uh huh.
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Janak Jalil
Have you been recording my private conversations?
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Katya Adler
Sorry, I don't understand.
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Janak Jalil
The tech giant Apple agrees to pay a settlement of $95 million after users accused its virtual assistant Siri of spying on them. We begin in Washington at the U.S. capitol.
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Katya Adler
The honorable Mike Johnson of the state of Louisiana, having received a majority of the votes cast, is duly elected speaker of the House of Representatives for the.
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Janak Jalil
119Th Congress, where the Republican speaker of the US House of Representatives managed to snatch the narrowest of victories from the jaws of defeat. There was confusion on Friday as it seemed that Mike Johnson, who's been backed by US President elect Donald Trump, had lost the vote to remain in his role, with a handful of Republicans in the lower chamber voting against him or abstaining. But then, after huddled discussions, nearly all of them changed their minds, giving Mr. Johnson 218 votes, the lowest possible number for him to be re elected to his post. After the vote, he took to the House floor.
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Katya Adler
What we're proposing now is just simply, as President Trump likes to say, a return to common sense. And he's exactly right. That message resonated across the country. I am very thankful personally that this body is filled with men and women who are committed to that change, to return to common sense. We can do this together. We should. It is our responsibility to do so.
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Janak Jalil
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries called on both Republicans and Democrats to come together and promised that his party would work to find common ground with Republicans.
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Katya Adler
The American people need us as their elected representatives in this season to put.
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Janak Jalil
Down our partisan swords and pick up bipartisan plowshares.
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Clayton Davis
It's time for us to come together.
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Janak Jalil
Not as Democrats or Republicans, but as Americans. Our correspondent in the Capitol building, Rowan Bridge, told me more about the vote.
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Michelle Fleury
I think if there was confusion around it, it was because there had been a vote, but the vote hadn't officially been announced. And so what you had is people totting up the numbers as the voting was going through and going, Mike Johnson, I can't win here. But then before the vote was officially announced, there was clearly some arm twisting and back scratching going on on the floor of Congress. And that was enough to win over two holdouts. And those two holdouts then voted in favor of Mike Johnson. And that then, when the vote came to be announced, meant he had enough votes to. To carry the gavel and to hold on to the speakership.
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Janak Jalil
And do we know how those dissenting Republicans were persuaded to change their minds?
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Michelle Fleury
Yeah, I mean, we've heard from one of them and they said that they were given commitments around spending, which is a big thing for some of those conservative Republicans who are concerned about the levels of public spending in the United States and also about making sure that they can pass Trump's sort of America first agenda. But also worth noting, like in the drama of that vote at the beginning, there were some Johnson critics who effectively sat on the hands. They didn't vote at all. And then as it came towards the end of the vote, they did end up voting for him. But I think that was them telegraphing, hey, listen, don't take us for granted going forward. You're going to need us for some of these votes.
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Janak Jalil
And what does this tell us about how Donald Trump's second term will be like? Because we're already seeing, even before he comes back to the White House, how divided the Republicans are.
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Michelle Fleury
Yeah, I mean, I think Mike Johnson is going to be key for Donald Trump going forward because the reason that speakership role is so significant is that it controls the passage of legislation through the House of Representatives. And for Donald Trump, having an ally in that position will be significant. And Donald Trump went out publicly sort of supporting Mike Johnson. And so he's also shown the level of influence that he can. And it also, I think, shows that Republicans are serious about governing, that this didn't descend into a sort of circus of 15 votes over 4 days to get a speaker. As we've had previously at the same time. So those are all the sort of positives, if you like, on the other side, you know, Mike Johnson's got a very small majority to work with here. And there is a very conservative wing of the party who are not very happy with Mike Johnson, even if they voted for him. And they could cause trouble going forward, certainly.
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Janak Jalil
Rowan Bridge, in an extraordinary move from a US President who's just weeks away from leaving office to Joe Biden has blocked the takeover of America's third biggest steel maker, US Steel, by a Japanese company, Nippon Steel. The White House spokeswoman, Karine Jean Pierre, said Mr. Biden wanted to protect the US from foreign competitors who use unfair trade practices.
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Katya Adler
It is critical that we have a strong domestic steel industry that protects our national security and our supply chains. Today, the president demonstrated once again that he will always act to protect the.
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Imran Rahman Jones
Security of this nation as well as.
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Katya Adler
The resilience of our supply.
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Janak Jalil
The deal would have been worth nearly $15 billion. Mr. Biden's intervention follows fierce opposition from the United Steelworkers Union. Both companies have responded by saying it's truly shocking that the US Government would treat a major ally like Japan in this way. Our North America business correspondent, Michelle Fleury, told me more about why President Biden had blocked the deal.
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Katya Adler
You're talking about a sort of once iconic American business, US Steel. It was once the biggest company in America, but it has fallen on hard times. And this deal to buy it by Nippon Steel was meant to be kind of a lifeline that was going to inject much needed money into the company site just outside of Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania to revive its fortunes and kind of future. Proof it if you. Right from the beginning, it was controversial both in economic terms. Critics were concerned that because Nippon still was Japanese, that maybe jobs in the US Would be lost. There was some support from politicians locally on that front. There was also concern that this was happening in a swing state during an election year. And so you saw both President Biden, but also President elect Donald Trump coming out against this deal. And now we've got confirmation of that in one of his last acts as president, Joe Biden now blocking this steel, saying that it was bad on national security grounds and that it was critical to preserve not just U.S. jobs but also U.S. supply chains.
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Janak Jalil
And is this the end of the matter? Because both Nippon Steel and US Steel have responded angrily with, it seems, some threat of legal action.
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Katya Adler
Yeah, I mean, look, Nippon Steel had sort of bent over backwards to try and kind of accommodate the concerns from American politicians. I mean, they'd even gone so far as to say they were going to give veto power to the company over future decisions to kind of downsize US operations. But that wasn't enough to win approval. Now Nippon Steel and US Steel have said they are going to take all appropriate action to protect their legal rights. In other words, they plan to challenge Biden's move in court. Part of this has to do with kind of how the process played out. There is a regulatory body whose job is to kind of review foreign investment and decide whether or not there's a national security concern. And that committee actually was unable to reach a decision. And so it was sort of punted to the administration, administration to the White House to make the final call. And they're saying that the whole process kind of wasn't fair. So I suspect that will be the legal argument that they will kind of try and push the government to provide evidence of what this national security concern is. Exactly. Especially when you're talking about a Japanese buyer of an American firm. Remember, Japan is a big U.S. ally.
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Janak Jalil
Michelle Fleury, Hamas says indirect ceasefire talks with Israel have resumed in the Qatari capital Doha. The long running stop start negotiations had recently ground to a halt halt with both sides blaming each other. Here's our Middle east regional editor, Mike Thompson.
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Michelle Fleury
The good news is they're talking again, but sticking points remain. Hamas has said discussions will focus on a complete end to hostilities and an Israeli withdrawal from Gaza. Yet so far, Israel has rejected any deal that guarantees a permanent end to the conflict before its war aims are achieved. There are also differences over which hostages would be released by Hamas and the names of prisoners to be freed in exchange by Israel. As pressure for a ceasefire grows, Israel has stepped up its bombardment of the territory, with more than 100 people reported killed over the last two days.
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Janak Jalil
Mike Thompson Syria has tightened restrictions on its border with Lebanon for the first time since the overthrow of Bashar al Assad last month. Both countries have been keen to express their desire for a new relationship after decades in which Damascus has dominated its smaller neighbour. Sebastian Usher reports from Beirut.
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Imran Rahman Jones
Just a week ago, anyone taking the Masnah border crossing from Lebanon into Syria only needed their passport to be waved through with a smile by border guards who'd taken over from officials appointed under Bashar Al Assad's rule. That's just changed to some degree, with Lebanese nationals now needing a Syrian residency permit or official permission to enter. It could be in response to recent border incidents, including a clash between armed Syrians and Lebanese troops, but it may also be a tit for tat measure for Lebanon already only allowing Syrians with Lebanese residency into the country.
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Michelle Fleury
Either way, it means that taxis are.
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Imran Rahman Jones
No longer able to drive the whole route between Beirut and Damascus.
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Janak Jalil
Sebastian Usher, the tech giant Apple has agreed to pay a $95 million settlement to users who accuse its digital assistant Siri of listening in on their private conversations. The BBC's Isabella Bull decided to ask Siri itself about the allegations. Hey Siri.
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Katya Adler
Mm.
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Janak Jalil
Have you been recording my private conversations?
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Katya Adler
Sorry, I don't understand.
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Anise Raimili
Have you been listening to me?
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Katya Adler
I respect your privacy and only listen when you're talking to me. You can learn about Apple's approach to.
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Janak Jalil
Privacy@Apple.Com so Siri, why is Apple settling a lawsuit over you?
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Katya Adler
I found this on the web.
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Janak Jalil
Ok, I can see you've brought up the BBC News article about this lawsuit. Can you explain it to me?
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Katya Adler
Apple means the round fruit of a tree of the rose family, which typically has thin green or red skin and crisp flesh. Do you want to hear the remaining one?
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Janak Jalil
No thanks, Siri.
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Katya Adler
That's okay.
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Janak Jalil
Isabella Bull there talking to a rather evasive Siri. Well, BBC technology reporter Imran Rahman Jones told me more about the case.
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Imran Rahman Jones
This is to do with Siri, the voice activated smart assistant that is on lots of Apple devices, their watches, iPhones, iPads, etc. Most people with smart speakers or other devices know you have to give it an activation word in order for it to start listening and then you can give it your commands. In this case it's hey Siri. What the claimants say is that they hadn't said those words and it started listening into their conversations without their permission. The way these class action lawsuits work is there's a small number of plaintiffs who bring the case to the court. So among those in the court documents, one of the lead plaintiffs, a woman called Fomico Lopez in California, who says she and her daughter were both recorded and the evidence they give is they were talking about specific products. So something like Air Jordans, which they give in the court documents. The Nike trainers they were talking about that they then alleged that they were recorded by Apple and then they were served targeted ads to do with those specific shoes. Another example given in the court papers is of a man who had a conversation with his doctor about a specific type of surgery which they were considering and he said he'd never searched this on his devices before. But once he'd had that conversation with the doctor, then adverts to do with this specific type of surgery then started coming up on his devices, and he says that's evidence that he was being listened to in this case by his Apple watch.
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Janak Jalil
And now after this five year legal case, there's been this settlement. Tell us about it and its significance.
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Imran Rahman Jones
So Apple have offered to pay US$95 million to settle the case. It still needs a judge in the court in Northern California to accept it and for it to go through. But if it does in February, then it would mean that Apple payout seems a huge amount of money, but it's over a few million people who would be eligible to claim. That's how these class action lawsuits work. So it would end up being probably about $20 per person, per device. But as part of that settlement, Apple would deny any wrongdoing at all and say that any claims that it recorded, disclosed to third parties, or failed to delete conversations without consent would be denied.
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Janak Jalil
And it seems like a huge amount of money to you and me, but for Apple, it's just a drop in the ocean. What's the significance of this for Apple, given that it's made user privacy a big part of its brand? Is the case itself more damaging than the actual financial settlement?
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Imran Rahman Jones
Like you say, Apple put user privacy front and center of lots of its marketing, and it's the way that it tries to distinguish itself against its rivals. So if anything was to come out, and it hasn't yet, that they were listening into people without their consent, then that would be a big blow to them. Like you also say $95 million is a lot of money, but they made $95 billion in just three months up to the end of September last year. So we're talking about a tiny amount.
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Janak Jalil
BBC technology reporter Imran Raman Jones.
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Anise Raimili
Still to come, we don't really understand why she's carrying this deceased calf for so long. But of course, as humans, we can relate, of course, because we understand grief.
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Janak Jalil
The story of the killer whale who made headlines around the world when she was filmed carrying the dead body of her calf.
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Nicola Coughlan
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You're listening to the Global News Podcast. South Korea has one of the lowest fertility rates in the world. But now for the first time in nearly a decade, it's seen a rise in the number of births. But as Steve Jackson reports, its population is still in steady decline.
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Katya Adler
South Korea's low birth rate has been described as a national emergency, and the government has poured billions of dollars into encouraging people to have more children. Among other measures are cheaper mortgages for parents, tax breaks for family friendly business, and more parental leave. The figures just released for 2024 show a 3% rise in the number of births, a small step in the right direction, but nowhere near enough to prevent long term population decline. A fifth of South Koreans are over 65, and with the number of deaths far surpassing births, the population is projected to halve in size by the end of the century.
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Janak Jalil
Steve Jackson and did you know that babies born in 2025 will be the first to belong to Generation Beta? But what does that actually mean? Andrew Peach heard more from Sinead Butler, a trends reporter at the indy100 news site.
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Nicola Coughlan
Generation beta are people born between 2025 and 2039. So babies born from the 1st of January this year are the first of the genbees and by 2035 they will make up 16% of the global population. And most of the members of this generation are actually expected to live well into the 22nd century as well.
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Katya Adler
I was going to say that the first generation that will belong to the next century, I guess they're going to have a life pretty much dominated by AI. We would from our vantage point now. You would think anyway.
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Nicola Coughlan
Yeah, especially now. Yeah, with like kind of technology such as artificial intelligence is quickly developing right now. So in the next few decades it's only going to further advance and they'll be growing up with that technology as well. It'll be similar to kind of how Gen Alpha would dub the iPad kids due to how that technology had an impact on their childhoods. And it'll be interesting to see that relationship develop in the decades to come.
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Katya Adler
So we've got Gen Beta now taking over from Gen Alpha. I'm Gen X myself. I was born in 1973. I suspect you're a millennial. You sound, I'm guessing I'm going to put money on you being a millennial.
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Nicola Coughlan
Take that as a compliment. I'm Gen Z.
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Katya Adler
Okay. And what are the sort of, you know, does it mean anything? I suppose is what I'm going to say that people are born in similar periods, going to have different experiences of life? I suppose. What else do we take from these labels?
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Nicola Coughlan
I guess with kind of like technology nowadays, especially like Gen Z and Gen Alpha. And obviously with Gen Beta, social media plays such a huge aspect in connecting with people. So I think in terms of the generations, when you look at the differences in like growing up, that's had a huge impact on how we communicate with people and their kind of experiences in society.
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Katya Adler
Yeah. And I guess in the end it's a useful label, isn't it? The cutoff date is a bit arbitrary, but it's a useful label to describe who we're talking about without needing to give the date of birth out.
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Nicola Coughlan
Yeah, exactly. If you don't want to give your age away, it's always a good indicator.
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Katya Adler
What's been the reaction online to the name Jen Beta? Do people like that?
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Nicola Coughlan
So overall there's been a lot of reaction on social media. I think with this new generation, it makes us all reflect on where we are in life, like coming to terms with the fact that we're all getting older and there's like a new generation of youngsters. And I think Gen Z have taken it particularly hard with some of them saying they're officially like the new Millennials. And then there's kind of like references to like the 2024 horror film the Substance, which kind of tackles the topic of aging. And then you have like people making fun of the name kind of Gen Beta due to like the negative connotations of the word beta, which is a slang term for someone who's kind of perceived to be weak, mild mannered, passive, kind of the opposite of Alpha. So people have been joking that like Jen and Beta are going to have these characteristics. Some people were joking about how people were rushing to have babies before 2025. So the children were Gen Alpha and not Gen Beta.
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Janak Jalil
That was Sinead Butler from the Indie Hundred News site talking to Andrew Peach. Passport holders from any African country can now travel to Ghana without needing a visa. The move is part of a wider shift towards freedom of movement across the continent. Ghana joins Rwanda, the Seychelles, the Gambia and Benin in offering visa free entry for African travellers. Our Africa Regional Editor, Will Ross reports.
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Katya Adler
Before this policy was introduced, nationals of more than 20 African countries needed to get visas on arrival in Ghana. Just days before stepping down, President Nana Akufo Addo said he was proud to.
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Michelle Fleury
Have brought in the new policy. He said scrapping the visas was a.
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Katya Adler
Logical step towards building the African Continental Free Trade Area, which is expected to be the world's largest trading bloc. Ghana clearly sees the value of making it easier to visit.
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Michelle Fleury
2019 was dubbed the Year of Return and attracted a large number of mostly.
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Katya Adler
African Americans, a move which helped give a much needed boost to a struggling economy.
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Janak Jalil
Will Ross, you may Recall back in 2018 the story of a killer whale who swam more than 1600 kilometres pushing the body of her dead newborn calf. Well, the same whale known as Ta Lequa has had a healthy calf since then, but she's now been spotted again with another dead baby, which she is again carrying in the Puget Sound off the coast of the U.S. state of Washington and British Columbia in Canada. Anise Raimili is editor in chief of the Whale Scientist blog. Julian Marshall asked her how common Ta Laikwa's behaviour is among killer whales.
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Anise Raimili
It's happened a couple of times before, but never this long. And of course, this is baffling for all of us scientists. We don't really understand why she's carrying this deceased calf for so long. But of course, as humans, we can relate, of course, because we understand grief and it's very difficult to explain grief for a species that we cannot properly communicate with and that we don't fully understand.
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Michelle Fleury
But your guess would be that Tahlequah is experiencing grief?
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Anise Raimili
Absolutely. These killer whales are social creatures, we know they form important bonds with their family members, members of their pods. And so the fact that she's carrying this calf for so long shows that she has some emotions, because, of course, it costs her a lot of energy to push this calf around. Last time it was for over a thousand miles and over two. So it is not something that's easy for her to do because while she's pushing the calf, she cannot feed properly. So it's not overreaching to say that she's grieving.
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Imran Rahman Jones
More troubling, though, perhaps, is why she.
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Katya Adler
Has lost a calf for the second time.
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Anise Raimili
I think it's just worth noting that in between the two events, she did have a healthy calf. Its name is Phoenix, or J57, and it was born in the fall of 2020. And this calf did make it past its first. It's still healthy, it's still alive. But of course, this is extremely troubling. And this is, in this case, a female. And we know that this population is lacking females. There's only 23 reproductive females left in this population and 73 individuals. And we know that we need all the females that we can get to bring this population back to healthy numbers.
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Katya Adler
Why has this particular killer whale population dwindled, though?
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Anise Raimili
So there's a bunch of different factors. It is a population that lives in close proximity to a very populated human area and so of course, that introduces a lot of issues and we know that it's a population that loves to feed on Chinook salmon and we know that there's competition with humans. There's also a lack of salmon due to a lot of dams being built on the rivers where the salmons reproduce. And so there is a lack of food for salmon. Resident killer whales, and we know it because they have generally poor body condition.
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Janak Jalil
Anees Ramilli, editor in chief of the Whale Scientists blog. Now, when you've had too much of the news, there's nothing like a bit of entertainment to lift the spirits. So what releases can we look forward to in 2025? The senior awards editor of Variety magazine, Clayton Davis, spoke to James Kumar Sami.
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Clayton Davis
You're going to see a lot of franchises. Marvel has a good slate, including Thunderbolts. But also we're going to get Fantastic Four, which I think is one of the biggest excitements for superhero fans, not only because it's Pedro Pascal who is stepping into the lead role of Mr. Fantastic. Along with a great cast, we're also.
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Katya Adler
Going to be seeing some remakes, aren't we? One that struck us here, the Kiss of the Spider Woman.
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Michelle Fleury
A story of love creates a passion, a danger.
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Clayton Davis
So Kiss of the Spider Woman is getting a reimagining based off of the Broadway musical. This stars Jennifer Lopez in many ways the role that she's probably waited for her entire career. This is the Sonia Braga role that was made famous in the 80s in essentially three different roles. And this is something that I think could surprise us in a significant way.
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Katya Adler
It's a bit like hairspray, isn't it? Coming a film then becomes a musical and then becomes a film again.
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Clayton Davis
I mean, that's where people tend to find comfort. You find comfort in the things that you know or marketing department at any type of major studio that's easier to sell, you know, I mean, that's why we have Wicked Part 2 coming now titled Wicked for Good next year, Part 2. And if anyone's familiar with the Broadway show, does run adjacent to the timeline of wizard of Oz.
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Katya Adler
Snow White is pretty familiar, isn't it? And it's getting a. An interesting remake.
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Janak Jalil
Magic mirror on the wall. Who is the fairest of them all?
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Katya Adler
Famed is thy beauty, majesty.
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Clayton Davis
And listen, Disney has spent a lot of money on this. Some of those early murmurs don't seem to bring a lot of confidence into what it can actually deliver in terms of box office. The trailer wasn't very well received. It's always good to remind everyone that 2020 was the time that accelerated the conversation that we all were trying to avoid. How can streamers and movie theaters coexist? So I think what we're seeing now is the great reduction I believe is still occurring. And when I say great reduction, you know, everyone tried to get into the streaming game because everyone was chasing Netflix. I will say that there will be certain movies that have a harder time getting made than live event space is is the next natural go to for them.
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Janak Jalil
Variety's senior awards editor, Clayton Davis. And that's all from us for now. But there will be a new edition of the Global News Podcast later. If you want to comment on this podcast, you can send us an email. The address is globalpodcastbc.co.uk. this edition was mixed by Tom Bartlett. The producer was Liam McSheffrey. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Janak Jalil. Until next time. Goodbye.
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Katya Adler
Hello, I'm Katya Adler, host of the Global Story podcast from the BBC. Each weekday we break down one big news story with fresh perspectives from journalists around the world. From artificial intelligence to divisive politics tearing our societies apart from the movements of money and markets to the human stories that touch our lives, we bring you into depth insights from across the BBC and beyond. Listen to the Global Story wherever you get your BBC podcasts.