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Russia launches massive attack on Kyiv
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Russian missiles and drones hit the Ukrainian capital, killing at least 20 people
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James Menendez
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Celia Hatton
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New Yorker Interviewee
I knew that she was going to get married in New York, but I had no idea where. So I can't believe it. I'm actually shook and I'm so excited that it has to happen.
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Celia Hatton
It is Taylor Swift really getting married inside a New York City arena? We start in the capital of Ukraine, where the mayor says every district was hit in a massive attack by Russia. In an 11 hour assault, a barrage of Russian missiles and drones hit Kyiv through the night. Officials say at least 20 people were killed, including children. The Russians have been accused of deliberately targeting residential areas. Russia's Defense Ministry says it hit key military plants in the capital. Yuri Sak is a former adviser to Ukraine's minister of defense.
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James Menendez
It was one of the largest, if not the largest, attacks carried out by Russia. On Ukraine's capital, Kyiv, Russia has launched almost 500 drones. There was also missiles launched at Ukraine and unfortunately 25 of these ballistic missiles have hit the targets. And of course targets, as it always happens, are civilian apartment blocks. And that's why the number of casualties is so high. Tomorrow is announced already as a day of mourning in Kyiv for those who were killed by today's attack.
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Celia Hatton
There were also Russian attacks on other cities in central and eastern Ukraine. The country's leader, Volodymyr Zelensky, has appealed to Ukraine's Western allies to send more air defense supplies, calling them an absolute and critical priority. The Kremlin has said it will continue to increase pressure on the Kiev regime in order to achieve its goals. Our Eastern Europe correspondent, Sarah Rainsford is in Kiev.
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Sarah Rainsford
I'm standing now at the site of where one, if not two, according to locals of those Russian missiles hit. And you just mentioned Russia saying it's been targeting military sites and military infrastructure here. Well, that's possible. That's what they were targeting. But it's not the only thing that they've hit here. This is a big block of flats, nine floors high, and the whole end section of it has been completely destroyed, smashed to smithereens. There are big cranes here and big diggers trying to pick through the giant slabs of concrete because officials here are saying at least six people are still missing. And I can see some very upset looking people sitting on the bench near me here, a man in tears, and I suspect that some of their relatives are among the missing.
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Celia Hatton
It's been described as the first large scale attack in two weeks. Ukraine had been expecting this, had warned that about intelligence that it was coming. Did that make it any easier for civilians to be able to get to safety when the assault started?
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Sarah Rainsford
It means that people expect a very bad night. And it means that many people will head in advance to the, to the metro, to the underground to take shelter or they'll go into their bunkers, they'll try to keep safe. Because every time Russia loads up its bomber planes, Ukraine can see that happening and it anticipates the massive attacks like this. But this isn't the first one, as you said there was one two weeks ago. They happen to or every two or three weeks. But in terms of the intensity, in terms of, in terms of the scale, I think it is fair to say that they are increasing. And it's also important to note that I think the reason they're having such a devastating impact is that Ukraine is strong, struggling somewhat to intercept those missiles because of a shortage of ballistic missiles to intercept those air defense missiles to intercept them. So it is extremely difficult. The scale of the attack is huge. I mean, I can see the consequences right in front of me now. And I can see the ruined lives, the ruined homes, and the people who are here yet again picking up the pieces after another.
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Celia Hatton
Sarah, is this really turning into, to the real front line in this war, these aerial attacks that are traded back and forth between Ukraine and Russia? What's actually happening on the physical front line?
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Sarah Rainsford
I think it's fair to say that because the battlefield, the ground war has largely stalled. I mean, it's, the movement on the ground is very, very limited, that the kind of real Action, I suppose is taking place now in the skies. And yet Russia is escalating its attacks. Ukraine is responding by using its long range drones to hit targets, oil refineries in particular deep inside Russia. Now it's saying that the aim is to pressure Vladimir Putin to force him into peace talks because Ukraine has been saying time and time again that what it wants is to end this war through negotiations, but it doesn't believe that Putin wants that to happen. So at the moment, Ukraine is also escalating its attacks, but particularly as I say, against oil refineries, trying to cause fuel shortages inside Russia to bring the war home in some degree to Russians themselves, the wider population, but also to cause problems for Russia's military and for the the Russian economy too.
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Celia Hatton
Our Eastern Europe correspondent Sarah Rainsford. Let's focus on what's happening inside Gaza now. Thousands of people in the territory with wartime injuries or life threatening diseases are waiting for medical treatment abroad. Gaza's devastated health care system is still unrepaired and unable to offer them treatment eight months after the ceasefire was implemented there. International aid agencies say Israel is still restricting the supply of drugs and equipment into Gaza. The leaving cancer and dialysis patients without the treatment they need. Gaza's Hamas run health ministry says 300 people have died waiting for medical evacuation and that 15,000 others are waiting for host country placements and security clearances. Our Middle east correspondent Lucy Williamson has been working with the BBC's team in Gaza to look into their stories.
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Lucy Williamson
Between the bombed out buildings of Gaza's Shifa Hospital, a Protestant by patients too sick for Gaza's crumbling healthcare system to treat. Nidal Al Arriya needs a corneal transplant for his son. Raida Nwazi says her cancer has already led to the removal of her breasts, her uterus, her ovaries, her pelvic bone and shoulder bone. All the protesters have been approved for medical evacuation abroad. But matching a patient's needs with host country criteria is often very difficult. And once matched, patients need to pass security checks from the host country, from transit countries and from Israel. Many have been waiting months to leave. 14 year old Muat Al Dini is waiting for two separate treatments abroad. One for his leg amputated during the war after an airstrike on the family home. The other for the spinal cancer he's had since he was a baby. Gaza's Hamas run ministry of Health says more than 15,000 people are waiting to leave for treatment abroad.
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Reporter/Interviewer
The fact that medical evacuation list is thousands high, it's in the thousands is a sign that people in Gaza don't have access to what they should have and which Israel, as the occupying power, under international humanitarian law, has an obligation to allow them access to.
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Lucy Williamson
Pat Griffiths, spokesman for the International Committee of the Red Cross in Jerusalem, says Israel is still restricting the delivery of some medical supplies eight months after the ceasefire in Gaza.
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Reporter/Interviewer
It runs the full range from gauze dressing, painkillers all the way up to advanced medical equipment like CT scans, X rays, people who need regular kidney dialysis treatment, where you have circumstances, where hospitals are now rationing that treatment.
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Lucy Williamson
Asked about the reports of shortages, Israel said it had approved every request for medicine submitted by international aid organizations and that 17,000 tons of medical aid had entered Gaza since the ceasefire. When Aminah Abu Al Kas was referred for medical evacuation, her son Sabah said, it felt like the beginning of a new life.
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Olivier Jaino
We knew that at any moment God might take her, and we also knew that at any moment a miracle might happen, that we might get a call saying, get your bags ready and prepare to travel or through the crossing.
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Lucy Williamson
Amina's aggressive necrotizing infection had already spread to her skull. Each day the family waited for news that her placement and security clearance had come through.
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Olivier Jaino
We waited a long time, but no response came. My mother died several weeks ago, and two weeks after her death, I got a call from the hospital informing me that her paperwork was ready.
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Lucy Williamson
Amina is one of at least 300 people to have died while waiting for evacuation, according to Gaza's Health Ministry. People say at least she's at peace, sabah told us. That sums up everything he said, because a patient in Gaza is different from any patient elsewhere in the world.
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Celia Hatton
Our Middle east correspondent Lucy Williamson, working alongside our team inside Gaza now, is the Earth's orbit about to be overrun with new satellites? And if so, what impact will that have on us and on the work of astronomers? A new report by the European Southern Observatory, which operates some of the world's biggest ground telescopes out of Chile, say there are plans on paper for more than one and a half million new satellites in the coming years. SpaceX alone is talking about sending up a million orbital data centers. Olivier Jaino, an astronomer at the eso, has been telling James Menendez what it would mean for him.
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Olivier Jaino
More satellite means more of them will cross our images, and each time one of them cross an image, it leaves a bright trail that masks everything behind it. So one trail once in a while is not a problem. Many trails means that we start losing more and more and more data. And if it's in the millions Then we would lose a significant fract fraction of our images.
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James Menendez
What sort of fraction are we talking about?
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Olivier Jaino
It depends how bright they are. And if they are really bright, that means that we could lose 100% of our images.
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James Menendez
100%? Really? What does it mean for people like me if there are that many satellites in orbit? I mean, would I notice the difference in the brightness of the night sky?
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Olivier Jaino
If they're really bright, and now we're talking brighter than the moon, then the atmosphere scatters that light. Light. It's exactly the same as the atmosphere scatters sunlight and make the sky blue. The same happens for everything, the moon, the stars, and the satellites. So that means that if you have many bright satellites, the dark sky would not be as dark as it used to be, and you would lose the faint stars. You would not see the faint stars. The sky would look like what you see from the suburbs of a city.
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James Menendez
Right. And what about collisions? I mean, with that number of satellites up there, presumably the chances of satellites colliding, I mean, increases dramatically, doesn't it?
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Olivier Jaino
Yeah, it does. And it is really a worry for our colleagues at the space agency. So if two satellites collide, they will break up in many pieces. And these pieces are likely to collide with more satellites and create more DEB has the potential to be absolutely disastrous. If you've seen the beginning of the movie Gravity, there is a very spectacular scene where the Hubble Space Telescope get destroyed by that kind of things. And it's kind of what would happen.
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James Menendez
I mean, is there any way of enforcing any sorts of restrictions on numbers and brightness of satellites?
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Olivier Jaino
Absolutely. That's where the space laws come into play. Each country is responsible for the satellites that are launched from that country. And also each country can enforce their local law to grant licenses, for example. So, for instance, France has put a brightness limit in their space law. And so that means that company which would like to do business in France has to demonstrate that they are respecting that brightness limit. And then there is, of course, the United nations, which is important because the satellite business is not just affecting astronomy, but it's also affecting the low Earth orbit with the problem of crowding and collisions and also pollution in the upper atmosphere, because every satellite that goes up will eventually come down.
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Celia Hatton
Astronomer Olivier Heino. Still to come in this podcast, we're
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New Yorker Interviewee
very proud of you. Even if we are going home, we are going home. Proudly.
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Senegalese Fan
You had the game won, and in that time you conceded two goals.
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Celia Hatton
Why the ups and downs of exiting the men's World Cup? This is the global news podcast. Nelson Mandela's granddaughter, Amdelica Mandela, has described the ongoing protests in South Africa against immigration as heartbreaking. Speaking to the BBC, she said, South Africans must not allow frustration to become hatred. This week, thousands marched in major cities demanding that undocumented migrants leave the country. Campaigners blame the migrants for problems such as unemployment and crime. Amdelica Mandela is the head of the Tambakile Mandela foundation, which continues the legacy of her grandfather. She's been speaking to James Koppnell.
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Amdelica Mandela
It's really deeply concerning and heartbreaking because these reflect the pain, frustration, and anxiety of many South Africans who are experiencing unemployment, poverty, inequality, crime, and the rising cost of living. And I believe that these deserve to be acknowledged and addressed. At the same time, I also believe that South Africans, we must not allow frustration to become hatred. South Africa was built on values of dignity, justice and reconciliation and Ubuntu, and we cannot allow hardships we face to diminish that our shared humanity. While these are legitimate concerns about border management, illegal immigration and criminality, and this should be addressed firmly through the rule of law, however, violence, intimidation, and xenophobia can never be the answer.
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Reporter/Interviewer
So if we start perhaps then with the first part of your answer, with the what you seem to believe to be legitimate frustrations of many South Africans, does that then reflect a failure of South Africa's ruling class to bring more widespread prosperity and, to use your word, justice?
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Amdelica Mandela
Yes, I just believe that, you know, when there's a lack of leadership, there's a lot of malfeasance that you see, it's all political parties which now has resulted in this deep frustration of South African people.
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Reporter/Interviewer
And I suppose that is something that people living outside South Africa find quite difficult to witness. We certainly get messages in from all over the African continent saying things like ANC leaders and Nelson Mandela were welcomed all over the continent. We took part in your struggle for justice in South Africa. Why are our citizens now being kicked out?
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Amdelica Mandela
It was not just South Africa. It was the frontline states that actually, you know, helped South Africa to reach the stage of democracy and to have our first democratic elections that can never be forgotten. However, South Africa cannot allow the rampant crime that comes with illegal immigrants, because it's difficult to trace an illegal immigrant because they are not documented. There are no fingerprints. So if they commit crime, it's very difficult to actually arrest them. However, we need to weigh those two, because it has to be. The rule of law must take its place. We cannot take, you know, the law into our own hands.
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Reporter/Interviewer
What do you Think your grandfather, Nelson Mandela would have made of all this?
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Amdelica Mandela
You know, Granddad believed in the dignity of human dignity, equality and justice and reconciliation. He reminded us, I will quote, I am not truly free if I am taking away someone else's fetal just surely as I am not free when my freedom is taken from me granted understood that freedom is inseparable from responsibility.
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Celia Hatton
Amdelika Mandela is the head of the Tambakile Mandela Foundation. A BBC investigation has found a convicted people smuggler who was described as the godfather of people trafficking when he was arrested in Europe, has been found living in the uk. Twana Jamal was described by French police as the most successful smuggler they'd ever caught, earning millions of dollars by hiding people in trucks bound for Britain. He's one of more than 20 people smugglers the BBC has found to have reached the uk, some with overseas convictions and some claiming asylum under false identities. Our reporter Sue Mitchell followed a tip off that Tuanah Jamal was out of prison and running shops and firms in the uk, the kind you might find in any town or city.
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Sue Mitchell
Twila Jamal was known as the king of the jungle, a reference to the Calais jungle, which was the largest migrant camp in France. We get a tip off that he might be in the city of Leicester and we find someone who's in touch with him. From time to time, they arrange to speak and record the conversation. Here it is in translation.
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Olivier Jaino
Yeah, right now I'm in Leicester. We know everyone in this city. This city is ours. All I'm doing is illegal.
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Sarah Rainsford
But.
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Olivier Jaino
But it's okay because they're not going to catch me or anything. Leicester's good for business. We're making good money. No one touches us here.
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Sue Mitchell
Twana Jamal is from Iraqi Kurdistan, the city of Rania, which is home to a network of smuggling gangs and where many are recruiting from. My colleague, Rob Lawrey has hundreds of contacts in Iraq, including smugglers like this one. We're using his words and not his voice.
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Olivier Jaino
And it's not just one. I told you. There's maybe 100 people I know. 100 people who are working two years, three years in France as smugglers. They make money, they go to England, change their name, then stay, have papers. Yes, it's a crazy system.
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Sue Mitchell
From Iraq, we learn about Tuana Jamal's family and use those names to search for businesses he could be linked to. There's a match. Two identical mini markets outside Leicester city centre. Over several days, Rob and I watch them both.
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James Menendez
I've got eyes on him. Tuana. I have absolutely Got eyes on him. He's dressed in a long black coat, white trailers and blue jeans. Opening the black door, they've just pulled in.
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Sue Mitchell
In the white van, we see Tuana Jamal come and go, driving vans to other premises and running one of the shops each night. When we're confident it's him from a distance, Rob goes into the shop and records secretly. Jamal has a distinctive tattoo on his hand which should help to identify him.
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James Menendez
What's your name, Marine?
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Olivier Jaino
Sultan. Sultan.
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Reporter/Interviewer
Nice. There he is.
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Sue Mitchell
The so called king of smugglers gives his name as Sultan 100.
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James Menendez
He's had extra work done on his hand, on his tattoo, but you can clearly see the original underneath. Right. 100.
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Sue Mitchell
After days of watching his routine, I approached Tuana Jamal and put our findings to him. Do the home office know your real identity, Tuana Jamal?
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Amdelica Mandela
Yes.
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Sue Mitchell
The home office know that you're a convicted people smuggler.
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James Menendez
Smuggler?
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Amdelica Mandela
Yeah.
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Reporter/Interviewer
I never.
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Sue Mitchell
The Twana Jamal we saw convicted in France in 2016.
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Senegalese Fan
Okay.
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Amdelica Mandela
Why do you want to be in Britain?
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James Menendez
I've been here for a long, long time.
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Sue Mitchell
Yeah. Why?
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Amdelica Mandela
Why do you want to be in this country?
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Reporter/Interviewer
Cuz I was not saved my country.
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James Menendez
And then I came to this country.
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Sue Mitchell
This is you in France.
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James Menendez
I don't care. When was that?
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Sue Mitchell
2016.
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Reporter/Interviewer
You know when that was?
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Celia Hatton
How many years ago?
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Amdelica Mandela
What to do with me now if
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Celia Hatton
I did something, anything wrong.
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James Menendez
Everyone knows that.
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Olivier Jaino
I never did.
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Sue Mitchell
You're driving around this city without a license. So what?
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Olivier Jaino
Did I hit you?
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Sue Mitchell
The home office says that all asylum claimants undergo mandatory security checks to confirm their identity for the purpose of immigration, security and criminality. And it has a number of agreements with countries to enable the sharing of criminal record information. It says immigration enforcement action is at its highest level in history with illegal working arrests up 83%. Tuana Jamal told me I could ask about his asylum claim, but he wouldn't say what name he used to.
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Celia Hatton
Sue Mitchell reporting. If you want to see more on this story, including video of Sue's confrontation with Twanah Jamal, it's there for you on the BBC news website. Rumors are swirling about where and when the American pop star Taylor Swift is going to marry her fiance, the American football star Travis Kelce. It could be in New York City and it could be tomorrow. There's been a lot of activity at Madison Square Garden arena in the heart of the city. Workers have been seen bringing in decorations and food. Streets nearby have been closed and extra fences have been put up. Here's what some New Yorkers think of all the Activity.
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New Yorker Interviewee
I don't know. If I was a celebrity as big as them, then I would want a more private wedding, and I feel like releasing that. It's at Madison Square Garden. They know that it's going to be a big event. They know that people are going to
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Celia Hatton
want to get in.
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New Yorker Interviewee
And I'm just like. It just feels like, why are they marketing their. The relationship? I knew that she was gonna get married in New York, but I had no idea where. So I can't believe it. I'm actually shook, and I'm so excited that it has to happen. Are you a fan?
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Brittany Kuinga
Yes.
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New Yorker Interviewee
Huge fan. I love Taylor Swift. I need to see her. Oh, she's iconic. Her songs are so good. She's such a great person. She's beautiful. She's literally my idol. I need to see her. Well, I would say the average New Yorker definitely considers it an inconvenience, but it is Taylor Swift.
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James Menendez
Yeah.
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New Yorker Interviewee
Pretty cool.
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Celia Hatton
Brittany Cooinga is a freelance writer who covers news and pop culture. She's been talking to James Menendez.
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Brittany Kuinga
The Associated Press is saying that they have confirmed with New York law enforcement officials that the wedding is happening tomorrow, July 3, at Madison Square Garden. Maramondami and the New York City Police Commissioner have also both heavily alluded to the wedding during press conferences about the heat wave that New York is currently going through, saying that they have added security measures. And Mayor Madame even said, you know, should you hypothetically be getting married at Madison Square Garden on Friday? That's a great way to stay inside. So it seems like city officials are confirming it as much as they can.
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James Menendez
Do you think it's definitely happening?
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Brittany Kuinga
I go back and forth. I think at this point with the city officials talking about it like this, I almost feel it would be irresponsible if it wasn't happening now, simply with the amount of city resources that are going and the security that is going to have to be in place there in the planning. I personally would love to think that she and Travis were married somewhere privately, but, you know, if this is what they're doing, it sounds like this is the plan, right?
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James Menendez
It's not to put all the fans off. Off the scent.
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Brittany Kuinga
You know, I would love if this was a decoy. I will be honest. I think that it's very on the nose, and it almost seems like a caricature of what you would expect her to do. You know, there's the red carpet, there's the disco. There's the rumors of the castle being created inside. It almost seems too on the nose. To be true. But again, what else would it be at this point?
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Celia Hatton
Freelance writer Brittany Kuinga. To the Men's World cup now. Footballers from Bosnia, Senegal and the Democratic Republic of Congo have been packing their backs after knockout matches. On Wednesday, Bosnia lost to the U.S. one of the host nations. Senegal were very unlucky. They were beaten in extra time by Belgium. Fans of the DRC were holding their breath in the second half of their match against England as the team desperately held onto a one nil lead. But hopes were dashed when Harry Kane scored two late goals for England. DRC supporters who'd been at the match in Atlanta were not too downhearted, though, when they spoke to the BBC. This was the first time their country had qualified for the Men's World cup in more than 50 years.
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New Yorker Interviewee
We're very proud of you. Even if we are going home, and we are going home proudly, very, very proud to be able to make it to the World Cup.
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Reporter/Interviewer
Watching Congo play after 52 years, oh, my God, it's amazing.
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New Yorker Interviewee
We came such a long way. We're always the underdogs. You know, coming from not being into the World cup for 52 years, I think we went a very, very long way. And I'm proud of our progress, I'm proud of our growth, and I'm proud that we're like, we're putting spotlight on our country.
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Reporter/Interviewer
Unbelievable. Look, I. I took pictures. Make sure they go. They go on the frame and I put them in the living room because my kids and my grandkids, they need to. I want them to learn, like, oh, grandpa was there, you know, I mean, or dad was there, you know, maybe when I was younger, I dream of attending a World cup, but hey, look, I'm here again, baby. Yeah.
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Celia Hatton
Very proud fans of the DRC in Atlanta. Well, as I mentioned, Senegal are also going home. We're going to hear now from a couple of fans who were at a watch party in the Senegalese capital Dakar. At one point, Senegal were beating Belgium 2 nil, but they eventually lost 3 two. Senegal are one of the strongest teams in Africa, and their supporters were disappointed.
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James Menendez
I'm disappointed not only by this performance, but by the last two African performances as well. First, we saw Ivory coast yesterday beaten at the very last minute because of poor coaching decisions. And tonight too, Dr. Congo were eliminated by England again because of what I see as poor coaching. I think we really need to rethink the way we coach in Africa. It's certainly not a lack of talent.
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Senegalese Fan
You had the game won. You were two nil up There are only four minutes left and in that time you conceded two goals. I don't know what to say. Why? What's wrong with us Africans? It was the same with Dr. Congo, it was the same with Ivory Coast. It's the same with every African team. But for us Senegalese, you weren't beaten because the players weren't good enough. The midfield was doing well. You just needed to strengthen the midfield, then keep a proper centre forward up front and that's it.
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Celia Hatton
Well, to get much closer to the World cup, listen to the BBC World Services sports podcast, More Than the Score. Search for More Than the Score wherever you find your BBC podcasts. And that's all from us for now. If you want to get in touch, you can email us@globalpodcastbc.co.uk you can also find us on X@BBC World Service. Use the hashtag globalnewspod. And don't forget our sister podcast, the Global Story, which goes in depth and beyond the headlines on one big story. This edition of the Global News Podcast was mixed by Alana Bowles and the producer was Stephen Yinsen. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Celia Hatton. Until next time.
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Sarah Rainsford
Goodbye.
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New Yorker Interviewee
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