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Russia warns Ukraine to reach deal or lose more territory
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US hands Ukraine draft peace plan which reportedly reflects many of Moscow's demands
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The Kremlin urges Ukraine to agree quickly to a US peace plan that appears to favor many of Russia's demands. The UN says nearly 70 children have been killed in Gaza since the ceasefire there came into effect last month. Officials in Nigeria say dozens of pupils and staff have been abducted from a Catholic school, the third mass kidnapping in a week. Also in this podcast, what we've been able to do is use very specific features of these roars and get an AI model to basically say, I think these are full thorough drawers. I think these are intermediary roars. I think these are grunts. How artificial intelligence is helping scientists differentiate between different lion roars. Russia has warned that Ukraine will lose more territory on the battlefield unless it reaches a deal on ending the war immediately. The US handed President Zelensky a draft peace plan on Thursday, which reportedly reflects many of Moscow's demands, such as giving up large tracts of land and substantially reducing reducing the size of the Ukrainian army, demands that Ukraine has long rejected. The Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Russian advances have left Mr. Zelensky with less room to negotiate. The effective work of the Russian armed forces should convince both Zelensky and his regime that it is better to negotiate and do it now, and it is better to do it now than later. The room for freedom of decision making for him is shrinking as the territory is lost during the offensive act of the Russian armed forces. Neither Ukraine nor other European nations were consulted about the draft peace plan Mr. Zelensky has given a guarded response to the proposals, saying he's ready to work with the US on their vision for ending the war. Since being presented with the plan, President Zelenskyy has held a call with the leaders of Germany, France and Britain. And he's also talked to the US Vice President J.D. vance. The EU's top diplomat, Kaya Kallas, said whatever plan was finally agreed had to safeguard Ukraine Europe's interests. We are supportive of any plan that brings about just and lasting peace. As for the peace plan, we understand that President Zelensky has been presented with. We have always said that any peace plan to work, it has to be with Ukraine and with the Europeans on board. This comes as a major corruption scandal in the beleaguered energy sector involving a close ally of President Zelensky has rocked the Ukrainian government and weakened support for him. These residents in Kyiv gave us their thoughts on the US peace proposals. What they are offering us is not very good for us. The peace plan generally is good. The two countries should be equal in the long run and no one should give in to this. That is the issue of resolving. The war should be there and the war should end. This is not acceptable. Ukraine is the one who decides, not America. Of course America helps, but this is our land and not our war. We have to defend our land. You see, I really like Trump. I really like him, and I have all my hopes with Trump because Ukraine is no longer able to generate any protest internally because it is very corrupt. Mr. Zelenskyy said Ukraine faced a difficult choice, either losing its dignity or or losing a key partner. Our correspondent in Kyiv is Jonathan Beale. In his nightly address, he was careful not to criticize or reject the US draft of this peace deal, as you say, even though it does appear from what we've seen to heavily reflect many of Moscow's demands. He said he was ready for constructive, honest and efficient work. He said Ukraine wanted peace. And we know that he will be talking to President Trump soon, in the coming days. So he is engaging. But I think there is deep concern because some of the demands that have been reported, such as in giving up the entire Donbas region where Ukrainian troops are fighting for and dying, trying to defend at the moment, reducing the size of Ukraine's military, ruling out the presence of international troops in the country, giving up long range weapons, those are concessions that they've rejected in the past. Now the US is saying that both sides will have to make concessions. And from what we've seen in the draft, there are some Demands being made of Moscow, for example, using some of its frozen assets to help rebuild Ukraine, that there will be a commitment in Russian law not to invade Ukraine again. Whether people here believe that's worth the paper it would be written on, I think is another question. And even though it does rule out NATO membership, it doesn't close the door on EU membership. That said, overall, I think this is as far as MPs who've been commenting on what they've seen so far is something that looks one sided and they feel that they're trying to be forced into a quick piece. And there is clear efforts by the US to get a quick deal. They say there is an aggressive timeline for this. They want an agreement within weeks. So the pressure really is on President Zelensky at a difficult time for him. There's pressure on President Zelenskyy, but the Europeans have also been completely left out of this process. And we're hearing today that EU ambassadors will now be briefed by military officials in Ukraine. Yeah, it does seem that Europe has been left in the dark, that it wasn't party to the drafting of this peace plan, which seems to have been done by President Trump's special envoy, Steve Wykoff with his Russian counterpart and then at the later stages, some input from the Ukrainians from former Minister Umerov who visited. Wyckoff didn't have a hard copy of the document, but relayed the information to President Zelensky before President Zelensky was presented with a plan. Some of the stuff that Europe's been working on, for example, this coalition of the willing led by the UK and France, trying to get together an international force that would be ready to go into Ukraine, what they call a reassurance force, to ensure any ceasefire if that happened. That's not even mentioned. In fact, it's the opposite. There is a specific mention of no international troops. So clearly Europe, some of its suggestions have been ignored. It is now being consulted and the Americans have said this is a draft, that things can be changed. It's not a final document, but they want a final document to take to Moscow within weeks. Jonathan Biel in Kyiv, the United Nations Children's agency says almost 70 children have been killed in conflict related incidents in Gaza since Israel's US Brokered ceasefire with Hamas took effect last month. Ricardo Pirez is a UNICEF spokesman. He says child deaths had averaged nearly two a day yesterday morning. A baby girl was reportedly killed in Khan Younis by an airstrike while the day before seven children were killed in Gaza City. And the south. This is during an agreed ceasefire. The pattern is staggering. Israeli troops have withdrawn from the eastern half of Gaza to where they now maintain positions. They've launched several heavy airstrikes against what they say are Hamas fighters opening fire. And Israel is also backing militias in Gaza that are challenging the dominance of Hamas. Now, a senior Palestinian official has rejected claims by a pro Israel militia leader in Gaza that his fighters will form part of the territory's future police force. Major General Amwar Rajab, spokesman for the Palestinian Authority security forces, told the BBC that there could be no blanket integration of men from Gaza's armed groups. Under the next stage of Donald Trump's peace plan, Gaza is to have a newly trained Palestinian police force. But as our Middle east correspondent Lucy Williamson reports, details are scarce and militia groups are already receiving weapons and support. Israel's war in Gaza has paused, but Hamas has other enemies there. Men like Hossam Al Astal, head of one of Gaza's new pro Israel militia groups, the Counter Terrorism Strike Force. In this footage, broadcast live on Facebook, in a combat vest packed with ammunition, he brandishes a green Hamas flag before dousing it in petrol and setting it alight. Hamas is finished, he crows. Al Astel's group is small but increasingly confident. His tent city in Israeli held territory near Khan Yunis well supplied with food, medicine and weapons, he said, sent from supporters with Israeli coordination. This week, he told Israeli media that US representatives had assigned his force a role in Gaza's future security forces. When we spoke, I'd asked him if he'd had any contact with the Americans. You're smiling. This is not time. This is not time at all. So that's a yes next time. Charlotte, this not long, long time. I can talk for all this. Are you happy after the conversations? Yes, yes, he says, nodding with a big smile. The US deal sets out plans for a newly trained Palestinian police force in Gaza. At his office in Ramallah, the spokesman for the Palestinian Authority security services, Major General Anwar Rajab, told me there would be no blanket integration of Gazan militia. Israel might demand the integration of these militias due to Israel's specific political and security considerations, but what Israel demands does not necessarily benefit the Palestinians. Israel wants to continue imposing its control in one way or another. In the Gaza Strip, A complex patchwork of armed groups has emerged to fight Hamas in Gaza. Some are backed by Israel, and elements within the Palestinian Authority are also believed to be covertly sending support. But many Gazans, even those disillusioned with Hamas, are unhappy with the power given to these new fragmented groups, Salah Swaydan and Zaha Dule both live in Gaza City. Only a small number of men with no religion, faith or ethics have joined these criminals. Gaza's Hamas government was ruling us, and although there were many burdens on civilians, any government is better than gangs. These groups that cooperate with the occupation are the worst thing that the war has produced. Joining them is not only dangerous, it is a great betrayal. Forty years ago, Israel encouraged an organization of Islamic hardliners in Gaza to offset the growing power of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. That organization became Hamas. Lucy Williamson reporting. Well, since the war in Gaza began, we have tried to stay in contact with a lot of different people in the Palestinian territory to follow their lives and daily struggles throughout the conflict. Some of them have managed to leave the territory and go to other countries, some have not. But all of them have endured some kind of hardship and loss. Since 2023, our outside source program has been following the story of a young woman called Sanibel. She was just 16 when the war started and has found it a struggle to continue her education throughout the ongoing conflict. Sanabel is now 18 and she's done very well in her exams and has received a scholarship to go to university. Christina Volk has kept in regular contact with Sanibel. The first time I've heard from Sanibel was back in 2023, a couple of days after October 7th. And this is the first message ever she sent me. This war doesn't look like any wars that's happened before. When people ask me what is my biggest fear, I was always answer. Living in wars, I am terrified to lose my family, my home. A week has passed since the war began and there are no basic things that we need to continue our lives. She was displaced several times, all within Gaza City. And then a couple of months in, a very sad message came that her aunt Ola, who was the one who put us in contact in the first time, has been killed. Every time I try to maintain my calm, every time I try to just focus on my life, something happens and destroy everything. I really want to get rid of worse. I really want to get rid of worse. I'm sick of living in wars for my entire life. Even before the war, for Sanibel, her goal was to do well in school, go to university. She gets great joy out of studying and learning new things. So she's always been holding on to studying throughout all of this. For now, she has a scholarship for a first semester at the Islamic University in Gaza City. Although the circumstances are still still a bit unclear on how it will start, when it will start. But her big dream is to study abroad, to study journalism in English, to continue her Aunt Ola's legacy. As she says, coming from Gaza, she does not have a passport and she does not have the means to study abroad. So for now she is very happy about the Islamic University and she also shared with us why I actually, actually get a full chance to study the first term in the Islamic University for free. And you know that the strongest university here in Gaza is the Islamic University. The student exchange is better and it is more stronger than any university here in Gaza. And the Islamic University, her relationships with universities abroad is very good. That was Sanabel, a young resident of Gaza to Nigeria now where the last few days have seen a renewed wave of attacks and kidnappings by armed groups. Monday saw a group of girls abducted from a boarding school. Tuesday saw 38 worshippers kidnapped from a church. And now there are reports that nearly 100 pupils and staff may have been taken from a Catholic school in Niger state in central Nigeria. Chris Yuuoka in the capital Abuja told me what we understand is that armed men known locally as bandits stormed St. Mary's Catholic Primary and Secondary School in Papiri. Papiri is in Agwara local government area of Niger State in central Nigeria and there they abducted number of children really at the moment the number is not known although residents fear there could be up to 100 alongside some members of staff and left. They also shot someone, not fatally, who's been rushed to the hospital. What we understand is that they actually came with vehicles and it was about 2:00am local time, very early in the morning where people are already asleep. As they were going the vehicle reportedly broke down on the road but help didn't come for the students before they were taken away. The state government of Niger State has issued a statement confirming the incident but also alleged that the had been information intelligence about escalating threats in parts of Niger State which led to his suspension of construction works as well as ordering temporary closure of schools. But they were wondering why the St. Mary school didn't comply with the closure before this kidnap happened. Chris Yoko in Nigeria. Still to come, Miss Universe is Mexico. After a scandal ridden contest, Miss Mexico gets her fairy tale ending. What do you think makes the perfect snack? It's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient. Could you be more specific? When it's cravenient. Okay. 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A metafiring range in Johannesburg where a group of nine women are carrying out target practice. With them is Lynette Oxley from the Girls on Fire organization. What is going on in South Africa? We need to change the mindset and the women themselves must say enough, don't do this to me and I'm not going to let you do this to me. It is legal to own a firearm in South Africa for self defence if you hold a valid license and a growing number of women here are choosing to do so to protect themselves. As Lynette explains, we do do firearm training. That is what we are about. But very responsible firearm training what we usually train the ladies is situational awareness. Avoidance is your first, absolutely last resort. If you do defend yourself with a firearm, then also speak up. It's not about actually defending yourself with the firearm. I want ladies to change what they think about them. Stop being silent. If you speak up, even if you didn't win the fight, but at least you're fighting back. Put the front sight where you want to shoot it. And that's what Prudence has been doing for three years. She says she went to the police after being raped in 2022. For her, it's not just about speaking up, it's about being heard. Charges against her alleged attacker were dropped after DNA evidence was lost. I said no, I screamed, I cried. But he didn't take any no for an answer. From then on, it was just an uphill battle. After the rape kit was taken, there was an issue of whether the rape kit was, was being processed. Then they found it eventually. I then went to one of the case hearings, the court hearings in Limpopo, wherein it was provisionally withdrawn because of the fact that DNA had not come back. What is it that you as a rape victim think should be done so that victims don't have to go through the same thing that you went through? It's no longer just a police practice problem, it's an, it's a nation problem. So if we take ownership of it because of the fact that this is the generation that my sister is being raised in, I as much as it's me that was raped, but there's many other girls who are being raised in this communities and how do we make it safer for them? How do we make it safer for victims to rise up and put these people behind bars? Because a rapist doesn't just rape once, he rapes continuously if he's not put behind bobs in time. Another rape survivor here at the range is Erica. I don't want a woman to ever have to use her firearm, ever. But having it gives you a sense of more control over your own life, which will make you less of a victim. But yeah, it's not about, here's a gun, go shoot somebody. That is not what we are about at all. It is about, yeah, empowerment. Such is the level of gender based violence and femicide in South Africa. That rights group Women for Change are calling on the government to declare it a national disaster. Cameron Kasambala is the spokesperson for the group. 15 women killed every single day. 117 rape courses reported every day. And that's only 5% these kind of numbers cannot be ignored. We've had legislations and policies in place. I mean, the national strategic plan to tackle gender based violence and femicide was developed in 2019. You know, we have the Domestic Violence act, the Protection from Harassment act, so many beautiful acts and legislations. And what keeps happening is there's a lack of implementation and transparency, you know, and they, their biggest excuse is that they've got everything in place. But we are yet to see audits of where money is going, reports on what exactly is happening, details on all of these things they're allegedly doing. Right now we're still actually in discussions with the government about potentially declaring this national disaster. Every two and a half hours a woman is being killed. There's also, I think, a minimization and misleading numbers because I don't even think this covers the true magnitude of the issue. The government is hiding under high level promises. There's this nominal presentation of care. And I think on a grassroots level we've integrated violence and gender based violence into our cultures and into social norms. It's become so integrated that the trying to shake people out of it is becoming people very defensive of it. And I think it's requiring double efforts. And once the government truly reacts to this issue, I feel like we will already begin to see a proper reaction from on the ground because they set the president and the tone for how the, you know, the country responds. And if they are not responding with urgency and taking this seriously, how would we expect people every day to do that? We reached out to the government for an interview on the claims made in this film, but no one was available. However, previously the government had said it has committed to challenging harmful norms and toxic masculinity and that it is working to create a South Africa where every woman and girl can live free from fear and violence. And that's something the women here can only hope for. That report was by Nomsa Maseko. The UN Climate summit in Brazil is heading for a showdown over a draft text proposed by the hosts that failed to refer to the phasing out of fossil fuels. A group of more than 30 nations have told Brazil they cannot accept a deal that fails to commit to a plan to transition away from oil, gas and coal. Our climate and science reporter Esme Stallard says some progress has been made in tackling climate change. Fossil fuel is going to peak. That's what the International Energy Agency has told us in their report last week. They can point to a number of commitments, particularly around committing climate finance, new emission targets for many countries. So it's certainly that they haven't achieved anything. But certainly I think we can see that there is a real divide at the moment about how we go forward. We're getting to the really difficult areas now. You know, we've moved a lot of the easier parts of our economy away from fossil fuels. This is now the tougher areas that are left behind. So there's no surprise that they're going to struggle with this. Esme Stallard It's a surprising outcome to a beauty pageant that has had a particularly scandal filled year. Ms. Mexico Fatima Bosch, who at one point had walked out of a Miss Universe event in Thailand after being berated by an official, has in a dramatic turnaround been announced as the winner. Miss Universe is Mexico. So a fairy tale ending for Miss Mexico, but only after that difficult showdown. As Mimi Swaby explains, chaos has reigned in this 24th Miss Universe contest long before Miss Mexico was crowned. This all started when the 25 year old made headlines and went viral for walking out of an event after she was publicly criticized and berated by a Thai organizer who allegedly insulted her intelligence and criticized her for not posting about promotional content on her social media. Let's listen to some of that interaction. I still talking. Listen. I still keep talking to everybody. Why you stand up to talk to me? Because I have a voice and it's not correct, but it's not. No, you have a voice but you have to respect the wife. You are not respecting me as a woman. What? Why you stand up? I wear the gun Security so you can hear that. Other contestants walked out in solidarity with her and after crowning and getting her title, she said she wanted to be remembered as a Miss Universe who wasn't afraid to be herself and someone who perhaps has changed the stereotype of what Miss Universe stands for. And that really has come from her standing up for herself and making sure she's respected as a woman. Like we heard in that interaction there. Heated interaction. Given that heated interaction, what's the reaction been to her now winning the crown? So this perhaps surprise result has added to this year's controversy. Ms. Mexico's win instantly divided opinion online. Many Mexicans and foreigners alike applauded the victory and said she was was really kind of prolific in standing up for herself, especially with her walkout where others have said that maybe she was awarded this crown to make up for the earlier scandal. The favorite, Miss Thailand, came in second, followed by Venezuela and the Philippines and Cote d'. Ivoire. There's been divided reactions, but in her hometown on Villa Hermosa, thousands had gathered at a baseball stadium to watch it live, with fireworks exploding at the announcement. There was a real scene of joy there, but. But again, divided opinion, but really fueling this controversy of what we've seen being a very politically controversial as well as kind of social controversy as well in this year's pageant awards. And this is a very popular event watched by millions around the world. And this hasn't been the only controversy for Mr. Universe. No, only about a week later. Two judges resigned after this viral walkout. One actually accused organizers of rigging the competition. They said there was a secret and illegitimate vote. Now, the organization has denied this, but it really has again fueled kind of conspiracy theories around this pageant. And it comes at a time where the pageant and its relevance is being questioned as there is a declining audience. But despite criticism that pageantry in general is outdated and isn't, you know, up to date with the world we're living in, this is a thriving global business worth around a billion dollars a year. So despite its controversy, it still has a large audience and making a lot of money. Mimi Swaby, you would think that a roar is a roar, but apparently it's a bit more complicated than that. A study published in Ecology and Evolution uses artificial intelligence to differentiate between the sounds an African lion makes. And it's something that might help a lot in the world of conservation. Let's play you2 sounds to see if you can tell the difference. Here's the first one. That was the so called intermediary roar. And now for the full throated version. Well, to tell us how those two roars are supposed to be distinct from each other and what this all means, Jonathan Grocott, lead author from the University of Exeter in South West England, has been speaking to Justin Webb. So it's kind of really important as a monitoring technique, I'd say. So lions roar within what's called a roaring bout. So this famous iconic sound that they produce actually as a part of many different vocalizations within a wider thing. So you start with moans that develop into these roars that we just heard. And then it finishes off with a series of grunts. And whenever a line roars, it roars like that. The full throated roar has recently been discovered to be an individually identifiable tool. So like a human fingerprint, a lion's full throated roar is an acoustic signature. But kind of differentiating and choosing these specific types of roar, which are important for monitoring, because if you can identify lines by their roars, you could possibly use it as a tool to count them, which is a really important conservation metric, then it's a little bit challenging. So we were basically trying to understand how do we determine these full throated roars when there's an array of other vocalizations within this bout and it's the AI that helps you do it. Exactly. So as I said, it's kind of a really subjective process before determining what a full throated raw was in comparison to other vocalizations. But what we've been able to do is use very specific features of these raws and get an AI model to basically say, I think these are full throated roars, I think these are intermediary roars, I think these are grunts. And it spits out the ones it thinks are full throated roars. And then what was really cool is that we then saw that the full throated roars, which the AI predicted meant that we could better differentiate between individual lions compared to when a human selects these roars. Right. And you were hinting earlier on that the usefulness of that could be really, really something when it comes to counting and monitoring and protecting this species. Yeah. So traditionally, if you want to try and do a population estimate survey of lions, you would use things like camera traps, so cameras that are positioned to like trees that take photos as lions go past. Bioacoustics, which is the field of research I'm in, is really emerging at the moment and has advantages that you can detect species like a lion from much further than a camera. And if you can identify a lion by its roar, you can go, oh, I've got Steve Lyon here, I've got Sandra Lyon here. And then you can use that to start to count the number of individuals in a landscape. If you do this, you can identify population trends and identify conservation hotspots which you need to target for your underground protection services. Jonathan Grocott. And that's all from us for now. But there will be a new edition of the Global News podcast later. If you want to comment on this point podcast, you can send us an email. The address is globalpodcastbc.co.uk. this edition was mixed by Norah Hull. The producers were Carla Conti and Muzaffa Shakir. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Janat Jalil. Until next time. Goodbye. When it's time to scale your business. It's time for Shopify. Get everything you need to grow the way you want. Like all the stack more sales with the best converting checkout on the planet. Track your cha chings from every channel right in one spot. And turn real time reporting into big time opportunities. Take your business to a whole new level. Switch to Shopify. Start your free trial today.