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The Happy Pod: Love, cake, and a long-lost mother
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A man's search for his birth mother led him back to his favourite local bakery
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Narrator/Host
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Celia Hatton
What do you think makes the perfect snack?
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Lenore Lindsay
Hmm, it's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient.
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Celia Hatton
Could you be more specific?
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Lenore Lindsay
When it's cravinient.
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Narrator/Host
Okay.
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Lenore Lindsay
Like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter, available right down the street at AM pm. Or a savory breakfast sandwich I can grab in just a second at a.m. pM.
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Celia Hatton
I'm seeing a pattern here.
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Lenore Lindsay
Well, yeah, we're talking about what I.
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Celia Hatton
Crave, which is anything from AM pm.
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Lenore Lindsay
What more could you want?
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Fred Ramsdell
Stop by AM pm where the snacks.
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Vermar Hunter
And drinks are perfectly craveable and convenient. That's Cravenian's ampm. Too much good stuff.
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Lenore Lindsay
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Celia Hatton
This is the Happy POD from the BBC World Service. I'm Celia Hatton. And in this edition, how one man's search for his birth mother led him back to someone he already knew.
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Lenore Lindsay
It's like I automatically knew him. I felt like I hadn't been separated from him.
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Vermar Hunter
She was already a lady that I respected and I felt like the conversation was always like that of a mother figure.
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Hector Bellerin
Also, with power comes responsibility. And hopefully, you know, with this platform, we can become stronger, you know, and be able to change all these things that truly can be changed.
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Celia Hatton
The international football star who cycles to work and wears secondhand clothes green turtles have bounced back from the brink of extinction.
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Harry Bly
It just tells this great story of how people across the planet can come together to turn things around. And that is amazing.
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Celia Hatton
Plus, why the man who won one of the world's most prestigious awards initially thought his wife was joking.
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Fred Ramsdell
She started screaming, my God. My God. And she said, you won the Nobel Prize. And I said, I did not win the Nobel Prize. She said, I have 200 text messages that said, you won the Nobel Prize.
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Celia Hatton
Well, first we start with an incredible story about separation, love and cake. Vamar Hunter loved to visit the Gimme Some Sugar bakery in his home neighborhood in Chicago, enjoying the cakes, pies and cookies, but also the warm company of the owner. Lenore Lindsay had a tough time growing up and only discovered he was adopted when he was in his 30s. Years later, he decided to look for his birth mother. A genealogy expert tracked her down and told him to expect a call. When his phone rang, it was the bakery. And his birth mother was none other than Lenore Mabina. Zar spoke to them about the moment they discovered their unbelievable connection.
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Lenore Lindsay
So I called and he said, Ms. Lenore? I said, yeah. He said, give me some sugar, Ms. Lenore. I said, yeah. And he said, it's Vermar. Vermar Hunter.
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Helen Briggs
So hold on.
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Narrator/Host
So straight away, he knew you were the woman in the bakery?
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Lenore Lindsay
He knew because he had my number in his cell phone. And I called him from the bakery phone because I wasn't exactly sure who he was, so he wouldn't have my real number.
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Vermar Hunter
It took a second for me to put it together.
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Lenore Lindsay
I knew I was calling my son.
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Narrator/Host
Okay, he didn't know, but he didn't.
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Lenore Lindsay
Know who was calling him. So therefore, when Gimme Some Sugar popped up, he's just thinking, why is Gimme Some Sugar calling me right when I'm waiting for a call from my mother?
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Vermar Hunter
Right.
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Narrator/Host
How did the conversation progress? How. What. What did you actually tell him?
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Lenore Lindsay
We didn't say anything. We just realized the minute I'm hearing his voice and he tells me who he is, then I knew, oh, my goodness, he'd been coming in all this time, and this was my son. And that was just, like, clicked in my spirit. And I knew it was real and that this was true. So we're just like crying and screaming on the phone, and we just, ah, ah. For like five minutes or something like that. And this was unbelievable because the complete.
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Vermar Hunter
Miracle of it, she was already a lady that I respected. And I felt like the conversation was always like that of a mother figure. Like, you know, she'd be like, so when are you. When are you gonna get married? You gotta play a house? And you know, like that. So that was always the interaction.
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Narrator/Host
The next step was to organize a meetup.
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Lenore Lindsay
You know, his other. His family was gonna want to meet me and everything and some of his friends. And so we actually had a big meeting at the church.
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Vermar Hunter
That was a pretty exciting day.
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Lenore Lindsay
Were you nervous?
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Vermar Hunter
No. I mean, I know you, like, you know, she actually fit in with my circle and how I move amongst people.
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Lenore Lindsay
Anyway, so it was really, for me, it was kind of like after we had that conversation, it was like I automatically knew him. I felt like I hadn't been separated from him, which is really what my friends and family say. They kind of go, you just like, went zoop in connected and being around him more, he is like, so much us, it's crazy. He is just like my family without having been around my family. And that's what's so absolutely cool.
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Narrator/Host
Lenore, would you say the reunion has changed you in some way?
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Lenore Lindsay
Yeah, it's made me a lot more open. It's made me. I think I'm more emotional now. This made me more motherly. Yes. Toward Rachel, too. It's a weird thing. It's like almost like now I'm free to be a mom, sort of. Where before I had to lock that down from. So it's like from the time I was 17, you know, that was on lockdown, and you didn't have those kind of emotions, and you had to get through your life. And my job was to march through life. So, yeah, I was feeling things in a lot different ways. So now, you know, Rachel and I will be on the phone for three or four hours at a time. I can't even describe. It's just how much warmer I am and how much more attentive I am to her life. I'm a mess mostly these days about both of them.
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Vermar Hunter
I think she's awesome. As a mother at this stage of life, I view things a lot differently than somebody who probably has had their mother for the entirety of their life. At my age, you've had your parents in your life long enough to say, you get on my nerves. I'm sick of y'.
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Narrator/Host
All.
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Vermar Hunter
I don't feel like it, you know, whatever. But of course, they still love their parents. But there's that level of, you take them for granted. And for me, there's none of that. It's like, man, you know, I'm eager to learn more about her. I love everything about my mom, you know, I love her sincerity, her humor, her work ethic. But it's fun to talk about our differences because we're both at a stage where we can do it in a healthy manner, in a respectful manner, and we. We have ears open because we both want to hear. I want to know what you're thinking, you know, she want to hear. Know what I'm thinking. It's like, there's that curiosity, and it's been awesome, you know, Vamar Hunter and.
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Celia Hatton
Lenore Lindsay, and you can hear more from them on Lives Less Ordinary, wherever you get your BBC podcasts. Now, around the world, the top players in men's football are associated with luxury lifestyles, Rolexes and all of that. But one player is determined to do his part. To change that image, opting instead to cycle to work, use public transport and wear secondhand clothes. Hector Bellerin, who plays for the Seville team Real Betis in Spain's La Liga, is passionate about trying to live a more sustainable life, something he shares with his 3.7 million followers on social media. He's just been named global champion at the BBC Green Sport Awards and he's been speaking to the BBC's Elizabeth Conway.
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Hector Bellerin
Well, I feel with power comes responsibility. You know, I think it's some sort of duty for, for the people that we have these kind of platforms and not just on social media, but like just football itself. Every time they put a microphone next to you, there's always a chance to talk about issues. For me, sustainability has something, is something that has touched me pretty close since I was pretty young. I'm a kid that has grown up in nature, in the sea, in the mountains. Football has brought me to many different cities and to question the way I and we consume, we move around, we eat. There's so many decisions that I feel that I could take and I could promote these messages to just try to generate and promote a better life and a safer space for everyone, you know.
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Helen Briggs
So when we talk about what you do on a daily basis where you make more sustainable choices, can you give us some examples of things you do daily which other people perhaps wouldn't that you try to encourage the first one.
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Hector Bellerin
Which for me is the most important. And it's not something that happens every day, but it's something that we all must do which is vote for me. That is the number one way that we can all change. There's always governments that are more willing to take in projects and laws in favor of a greener planet. And when we talk about our day to day lives, I always feel that is important to take time to really think, think every time we consume and where from? I think we're bombarded constantly with like ads and publicity making you feel the need that you need to buy something. That was probably something that two days ago you didn't even think about. I've been consuming secondhand clothes and shoes for a really long time. But I remember there was a time that I saw these shoes. It took me six months to buy them and I wear those shoes almost all the time. And that's just a way of not just questioning before you consume, but once you consume a good, make sure that you use it, make sure you give it a good life and when you never, you don't need it anymore for whatever reason. Make sure that another life is given to that product.
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Helen Briggs
And we also hear that you don't often take the car, and when you can, you would cycle to training.
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Hector Bellerin
Yeah, the heat here is, like, pretty overwhelming at times, but I move around walking or by bike around the city. I also take the bus quite a lot here in the city. I know it will be easier many times to just ring a cab. You know, I'm very privileged. I know I have the. The chance to do it, but I feel that's the way it should be. And I know sometimes I need to plan my journey the day before, and sometimes it's a bit more uncomfortable. To be honest, most of those decisions are a bit more uncomfortable. But if you have the chance of making them and you have the time, I feel the more demand there is on it as well, the better the public transport would be, and I think it's the right thing to do. You know, we need greener cities with less cars, and it's a joy when you just walk down the street and, you know, the air is cleaner. The streets are for everyone and there for us to. To enjoy. And we need to also ask for cities that everyone can enjoy. And I think that in itself creates more community.
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Helen Briggs
Is it difficult to have your opinions on the fact that football needs to be more sustainable when things like the World cup happening this summer are across three different countries with more countries than ever? So much air travel. Is that a difficult conflict for you?
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Hector Bellerin
Well, definitely it is. I'm not the one that makes the choices over here. I've come to the realization with time that just because football works that way, I'm not gonna stop doing what I've worked for and what I love. I'm very conscious of how the football industry works, but I'm just a football player, and I don't even think that I can change anything. But I can raise my voice and hopefully, you know, with this platform that we have, we can become stronger, you know, and be able to change all these things that truly can be changed.
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Celia Hatton
Hector Bellerin. Now to a major conservation victory. Green turtles have been rescued from the brink of extinction. They were once hunted extensively for their meat, eggs and decorative shells and had been listed as endangered since the 1980s. But thanks to decades of global efforts, green turtle populations are now rebounding. The happy pods. Harry Bly asked our science correspondent Helen Briggs just how significant this is.
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Helen Briggs
The red list of endangered species is updated regularly, and more and more species are added to the list all the time. And generally, it's bad news. Things Going from bad to worse. So it is quite remarkable to get a story like this where numbers are rebounding. But a long history of exploitation, a massive conservation effort across the world over five decades to protect the green turtle, and news that it's been downgraded on the red list to have least concern. As Dr. Nicholas Pilcher of the Marine Research foundation based in Sabah, Malaysia, explains.
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Harry Bly
It just tells this great story of how people across the planet can come together to turn things around and turn the trajectory, the negative trajectory of turtles into a positive one. And that is amazing. It really is. We gotta be careful though, because while this is a great story, there are other species that aren't faring anywhere near as well. Let's use this wind as a catalyst to achieve numerous other winds.
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Narrator/Host
Helen, tell us more about how this was achieved.
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Helen Briggs
Lots of things. So working across the whole life cycle of the sea turtle, if you like, of the green turtle, on land, it was about protecting the beaches where the females lay their egg. Controlling the beaches, protecting the females, protecting the eggs, releasing the hatchlings out into the ocean. At sea, sea turtles tend to get accidentally caught in fishing nets. So it's developing technology to try and help them. Something called a turtle excluder device, which is sort of like an escape hatch that's added to a net so that if a turtle gets stuck in the net, it can find its way out. An education and public awareness that these animals are endangered, working with local communities to protect them. So a massive effort across the world involving huge numbers of both conservation scientists, but crucially local people and the general public. And this work has to go on as well. So even though numbers are rebounding, they have to keep doing this conservation work to protect the green turtle.
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Narrator/Host
So presumably some of these methods that have helped green turtles you've mentioned there, the turtle escape hatch will also be good for other animals which are endangered or under threat.
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Helen Briggs
That's right, yes. So a lot of work on stopping fishing nets, catching accidentally species that shouldn't be there. And it's about protecting a whole ocean habitat and whole ecosystems, really. So by protecting some of these species that grab the limelight, like sea turtles, because they are incredibly charismatic, you can also protect whole areas of ocean and lesser known species that perhaps don't get as much attention. As Dr. Pilcher here explains, you can't.
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Harry Bly
Deny that green sea turtles have everything going for them. The little baby hatchlings are some of the cutest things on the planet. And so what happens with species that aren't quite that majestic? Well, one of the Things I think is that sea turtles can actually bridge that divide. There's a whole bunch of seahorse species, for instance, growing in seagrass beds where sea turtles feed. And if we protect sea turtles, that means we have to protect seagrass beds, which means indirectly we're protecting those less charismatic seahorses. We need to step up and we need to recognize that it's all species on the planet that require protection. It's not about just the pretty ones.
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Helen Briggs
The scientists, they sort of tell me their lessons from this. It's about celebrating this wind, but using it to galvanize support for conservation, inspiring people to make a difference and inspiring people to love the oceans. Because despite all of the depressing stories we hear about species sliding to extinction, we can all do little things that can make a difference.
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Celia Hatton
Harry Bly speaking with Helen Briggs. Coming up in this podcast, the cafe that's helping homeless people with jobs as well as meals.
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Hector Bellerin
What a great community. You're feeling welcomed and everybody loves you, you know, I mean, truly. They welcome you and trust you massively. Uplift.
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Celia Hatton
What do you think makes the perfect snack?
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Lenore Lindsay
Hmm, it's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient.
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Celia Hatton
Could you be more specific?
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Lenore Lindsay
When it's cravinient.
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Narrator/Host
Okay.
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Lenore Lindsay
Like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter, available right down the street at am, pm. Or a savory breakfast sandwich I can grab in just a second at am, pm.
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Celia Hatton
I'm seeing a pattern here.
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Lenore Lindsay
Well, yeah, we're talking about what I.
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Celia Hatton
Crave, which is anything from am, pm.
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Lenore Lindsay
What more could you want?
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Fred Ramsdell
Stop by AMPM where the snacks and.
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Vermar Hunter
Drinks are perfectly craveable and convenient. That's cravenience. Ampm. Too much Good stuff.
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Celia Hatton
America is changing and so is the world.
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Narrator/Host
But what's happening in America isn't just a cause of global upheaval. It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.
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Celia Hatton
I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, DC.
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Narrator/Host
I'm Tristan Redman in London, and this is the Global Story.
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Celia Hatton
Every weekday, we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet.
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Narrator/Host
Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Celia Hatton
It's been the week of Nobel Prizes recognizing some of the amazing discoveries that are improving lives around the world. And in medicine, the prize went to three scientists for their discoveries that explain how our immune systems attack hostile infections but not our body's own cells. The work of Japan's Shimon Sakaguchi and US researchers Mary Brunko and Fred Ramsdell. Is being used to develop new treatments for autoimmune diseases and cancer. But while the rest of the world learned who won the award on Monday, Dr. Ramsdell didn't hear the news for a while. As he explained over the phone while on the road to my colleague Tim.
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Fred Ramsdell
Franks, my wife and I and my two dogs often take a long, extended camping backpacking trip right after Labor Day. And we did so this year. And we were in the high country in western Wyoming, a little bit east of Yellowstone national park, up pretty high in the mountains. So there's no service of any kind up there. So I stick my phone in airplane mode and we had a bunch of snow, but we managed to get out. Was our last day of the trip, actually. And we drove through Yellowstone looking at elk and moose and all sorts of other things. And then as we got out of the mountains, my wife's phone essentially exploded while I was walking my dogs. And she started screaming, my God, my God. And we're actually in grizzly bear country at this point. And so I started looking around for a grizzly bear, which was not the problem. And she said, you won the Nobel Prize. And I said, I did not win the Nobel Prize. And she said, I have 200 texts messages that said, you won the Nobel Prize. And so we still weren't in cell communication space. So I actually, we had drove down to a small town in southern Montana, which is where we were headed anyway, and I went to the front desk of hotel and said, I need to check in, like now so I get service, which is what I did. By then it was probably 3 o' clock in the afternoon here. I called the Nobel committee. Of course they were in bed because it was probably one o' clock in the morning there. So then I started calling my fellow laureate and good. And started returning phone calls, et cetera. So it was an interesting day.
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Narrator/Host
My goodness me, an interesting day is a wonderful understatement. I just wonder, I mean, so many questions spring to mind. I just wonder whether, I mean, first off, whether it's the sort of trick that you might imagine that your wife would play on you. She couldn't be that cruel.
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Fred Ramsdell
No, she shouldn't. And my first thought was, okay, I have a lot of friends, but they're not coordinated enough to pull off this joke, not with that many of them at the same time. So I knew it wasn't a joke and I knew it wasn't beyond the realm of puzz, But I certainly didn't expect a Nobel Prize at this point. So.
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Narrator/Host
Well, I mean just enormous congratulations. And I presume that your drive to where you managed to get a signal or wi fi must have been one with hands shaking. But now, now that you've had a little bit of time, I mean you've probably had zero sleep, but now that you've had a little time for to, to digest, I mean your reaction to the, to the news itself, it's obviously amazing.
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Fred Ramsdell
I was actually doing a television interview and that person came on before he went on, said, you're smiling. And I said, how could I not be smiling right now? It's fantastic. Beyond the personal recognition, which is great, but the team, I've been in constant contact with the team that was involved in this and you know, they're over the moon, excited. I love the fact that my two co laureates are being honored because they're both incredibly deserving. You can argue people who should be on this list. I'm not going to quibble with the Nobel committee on any of that, but it's great to have the work recognized and to really highlight what can take decades to come to fruition with some perseverance and some luck and really just some really hard work. And so it's just incredibly gratifying to me to see the work and the field get the recognition that it really deserves.
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Celia Hatton
Tim Franks speaking with the Nobel honoree Fred Ramsdell and you can find out more about his research and that of all of the Nobel Prize winners on the BBC news website. A Central London project set up as an emergency response to those left homeless on the streets during the early stages of the COVID pandemic has just celebrated its fifth anniversary. It now serves up to 90 in a pop up restaurant inside a church hall. Supported by prestigious hotels and private members clubs in the city's wealthy Mayfair district. The project also runs a cafe that's open to the general public and it's staffed by homeless people and others trying to get back into work. Bernadette Keough went along to find out more.
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Helen Briggs
In the grounds of a Mayfair church, a large crowd of supporters gathered to celebrate the milestone as well as to witness the launch of a new community vegetable growing project. It's the latest development in a much more humble original outreach initiative.
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Narrator/Host
So I'm Father Dominic Robinson, I'm the parish priest here at Farm street and I run also the Central London Catholic Church's homeless services which we started five years ago in Trafalgar Square. At the time when everywhere was being closed down because of the pandemic, there were about 200 to 300 people left on the streets and we provided food for them.
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Helen Briggs
Everything's gone up several notches since the early days with support from prestigious local hotels and private members clubs such as the Connaught and Annabelles. My name is Linda McHugh and I am the volunteer coordinator. And it's different from the norm. We do not peel potatoes and cook food from scratch. What we've done is get together with lots of very prestigious restaurants, hotels and clubs and they provide us with the food. We're not running a soup kitchen, we're running a restaurant where they come in, sit down, they have waiters and waitresses who are our volunteers. Volunteer Mark Smith reflects with pride on how the original charitable project is now twinned with a going concern, a stylish cafe open to the public, which is giving people who've fallen out of the world of work a second chance.
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Hector Bellerin
The restaurant service that we offer on Wednesdays and Saturdays is a sit down service for homeless and precariously housed individuals. But then an outgrowth of that project was the development of the Cana Cafe. And we employ people who are guests upstairs, so they're homeless or unemployed in the capacity of cooking and serving in the Canyon Cafe, serving regular folks who come in off the street to pay for this, for the food.
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Helen Briggs
Martin started off as a guest at the drop in lunches and has progressed into a position of responsibility in the cafe.
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Narrator/Host
I basically run the cafe in terms of organization, management and administration and the selection of volunteers. We have people that are having some disabilities, some people that suffer from certain substances use. So I mean, we try to get them involved as much as we can. There are people who can't really work that many hours, but they can still work a little bit, or people that can have some problems of concentration so they can do little tasks and contribute.
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Helen Briggs
Brian has also benefited from being part of the project.
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Vermar Hunter
I'm the dishwasher.
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Hector Bellerin
I get to wash all the dishes and I get to cook a little bit too. What a great community. You're feel welcomed and everybody loves you, you know, I mean, truly, they welcome.
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Narrator/Host
You and trust you.
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Hector Bellerin
Yeah, massively uplifting.
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Helen Briggs
But it's certainly not just about food, as Father Dominic Robinson explains.
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Narrator/Host
We have also creative writing, we have Pilates, we have job creation days. We have wonderful relationships with different businesses here. It's a real local success that the local community have come together to realize that those who are on the streets and for whatever reason, they've hit hard times and need our help and need to be shown dignity.
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Celia Hatton
Father Dominic Robinson ending that Report by Bernadette Keogh. And finally for this week, we wanted to share the story of a simple act of kindness that will hopefully make you smile. It's about a hotel worker who went above and beyond driving hundreds of miles to return a forgotten bag to a stranger. Because he he could tell the things inside the bag meant a lot to its owner. Kieran Gelpin tells us more about the journey.
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Narrator/Host
Driving back after staying by Loch Lomond, Sharon Bolton realized she'd left her handbag containing several sentimental items at the Queen of the Loch pub. She said she was really upset about it but couldn't get a courier because it would cost as much as the contents of the bag. Soon after, her phone rang. Here she is describing the call from Andrew Leggett, a staff member at the pub.
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Helen Briggs
He just floored me with this conversation, saying, oh, I hear what happened. I hope you don't mind, I've had a look through your bag. He said, look, I can see there are some things in this bag which are sentimental value and you really ought to have. I believe there is a solution to all problems. And he was so upbeat. So I thought, well, thank you.
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Narrator/Host
His solution to this problem was to drive 400 miles, taking over seven hours to meet Sharon near her home. Then he handed over her bag without anything in return. He explained why it was the right thing to do. There was some personal things in there and to be honest with you, it was off the next day and I thought, why not? It was really good to get your belongings back to you and when I.
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Hector Bellerin
Met with, with you outside of the.
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Narrator/Host
Masters, for we met outside of the smile on my face was enough for us. So it was a good day. And if you hadn't already realized from his chipper tone, Andrew had no regrets about the 800 mile trip. It was, it was a good journey down. It was well worth, well worth the journey.
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Celia Hatton
Kieran Gelpin reporting. That's all from the Happy Pod for now, but if you have a story you think we should cover or you'd like to comment on anything you've heard, we'd love to hear from you. As ever, the address is globalpodcastbc.co.uk and you can now watch some of our interviews on YouTube. Just search for the Happy Pod. This edition was produced by Harry Bly and Rachel Bulkley and mixed by Rebecca Miller. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Celia Hatton. Until next time, goodbye. America is changing and so is the world.
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Narrator/Host
But what's happening in America isn't just a cause of global upheaval. It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.
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Celia Hatton
I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, D.C. i'm.
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Narrator/Host
Tristan Redman in London, and this is the Global Story.
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Celia Hatton
Every weekday, we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet.
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Narrator/Host
Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.