US reportedly offers 15-point plan to end conflict

Summary

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Global News Podcast (BBC World Service)

Episode: US reportedly offers 15-point plan to end conflict

Date: March 25, 2026
Host: Oliver Conway

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Overview

This episode centers on escalating tensions in the Middle East amid the ongoing conflict involving the US, Israel, and Iran. A key development is the reported US proposal of a 15-point peace plan sent to Iran via intermediaries. The episode also covers major global stories: Meta’s legal troubles over child safety in the US, a massive drone attack by Russia on Ukraine, NASA's upcoming lunar mission, labor unrest at Australia's public broadcaster, Denmark's election outcome, advancements in anti-fraud wine technology, and rare twin gorilla births in Congo.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. US-Iran Conflict and 15-Point Peace Plan

• US President Trump’s "Twin Approach": Trump is deploying troops (potentially aiming to invade Iran’s key oil infrastructure on Hog Island) while simultaneously sending a 15-point proposal for ending the war ([02:06], [05:55]).
• Trump on Negotiations:
  • Trump claims Iran is eager for negotiations and hints at a significant "present" (non-nuclear, oil and gas related) received from Iran ([02:51]).
  • Quote:

    "It was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. ... No, it wasn’t nuclear related. It was oil and gas related."
    — Donald Trump ([02:51])

• Iran’s Response: Iran announces it will allow "non-hostile" vessels to pass through the Strait of Hormuz ([03:19]).
• Expert Analysis:
  • Ali Vaez (International Crisis Group) warns of regional catastrophe if the US puts "boots on the ground," suggesting invasion is being seriously considered ([03:41]).
  • Quote:

    "This is an absolute catastrophe for the region and it might come to haunt the US and Israel."
    — Ian Dennis relaying analyst sentiment ([03:41])

Details of the Peace Plan and US Military Moves

• Nature of the Plan: Reportedly covers Iran’s nuclear and missile ambitions, demanding Iran renounce nuclear weapon efforts and reopen maritime routes ([04:12]).
• Uncertainties:
  • Who in Iran is involved? Unclear.
  • Israel’s position? Not established.
  • Iran’s official stance? Denies negotiations.
• Troop Deployment:
  • US reinforcing the region with 1,000+ 82nd Airborne Division troops, two Marine expeditionary units, and more; potentially to pre-position for ground action or to influence financial markets ([05:55]).

Timestamps:

• 15-point plan discussion: [04:12]
• Troop deployment speculation: [05:55]

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2. Meta Fined for Child Safety Violations

• US Jury Verdict: Meta (parent company of Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Threads) found guilty in New Mexico for misleading users about child safety ([06:50]).
• Damages & Significance:
  • Ordered to pay $375 million (less than the $2.2 billion sought).
  • Historic precedent—first US state victory against Meta on this issue.
  • Focus on design/algorithmic choices over user content.
• Meta’s Defense: Company plans to appeal, highlights past efforts like "Instagram Teen Accounts," but critics call these insufficient ([08:29]).
• Broader Impact: Legal momentum is growing, with more cases and legislative efforts to restrict child access to social media underway ([09:28]).

Notable Quote:

"This case was really about design choices, the algorithms that push certain content, and potential contacts to these kids."
— Lily Gamali, North America tech correspondent ([07:30])

Timestamps:

• Case details: [07:30]–[10:01]

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3. Record Russian Drone Attack on Ukraine

• Event: Russia launches nearly 1,000 drones, causing multiple deaths and significant infrastructure damage—including a 17th-century church in Lviv ([10:25]).
• Scale & Impact:
  • Largest drone assault to date (948 drones) according to President Zelensky.
  • Attacks continued into daylight and hit western Ukraine, regions previously spared such intensity.
  • Damage to hospitals—including a maternity facility.
• Ukraine’s Reaction: President Zelensky condemns the attack as an "absolute perversion" ([10:25]).

Timestamps:

• Report from Kyiv: [10:25]–[11:46]

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4. NASA’s Artemis 2 Lunar Mission

• Mission Overview: Four astronauts (three Americans, one Canadian) to circle the Moon, traveling farther than any human before ([12:18]).
• Crew & Preparations:
  • Reid Wiseman (Commander, USA), Victor Glover (Pilot, USA), Christina Cook (Engineer, USA, first all-female spacewalk), Jeremy Hansen (Canadian rookie).
  • Details on capsule life: Meals, exercise, and cramped conditions.
  • Safety focus: Improved heat shield after damage in previous mission.
  • Timeline: 10-day journey (Earth orbit, lunar circumnavigation, return and Pacific splashdown).
  • The mission represents the next step toward returning humans to the lunar surface for the first time since Apollo ([12:18]).

Timestamps:

• Mission details: [11:46]–[14:19]

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5. Mohamed Salah to Leave Liverpool FC

• Announcement: Salah, Egyptian footballer, to depart Liverpool at season’s end after a historic run ([14:19]).
• Monumental Career: 255 goals, significant milestones, revered not just in Liverpool but as a Premier League and African football legend ([14:56]).
• Departure Circumstances: Leaves on his own terms, after managing uncertainty around his role and contract ([14:52]).

Notable Quote:

"Liverpool, it's not just a football club. It's a passion, it's a history, it's a spirit."
— Mohamed Salah ([14:35])

Timestamps:

• Salah’s message and tribute: [14:19]–[16:49]

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6. French Vineyard Fights Wine Fraud with DNA Wax Seal

• Backstory: French police have struggled against multimillion-dollar wine counterfeiting rings ([24:03]).
• Innovation: Chateau Angelus in Bordeaux devises unique anti-fraud system—mixing vine DNA with local bee wax for bottle seals ([24:25]).
  • If wax is tampered with, DNA is destroyed, ensuring authenticity.
• Expert Insight:
  • "Somebody could just drink a real bottle of Angelus, fill it again with poor quality wine, cork it again...and sell it again."
    — Benjamin Laforet, R&D Head, Chateau Angelus ([24:25])
  • On the DNA wax process:

    "If you heat up the wax to the temperature which makes the wax melt, you immediately destroy completely the DNA inside."
    ([25:20])

Timestamps:

• Wine fraud and new solution: [24:03]–[26:10]

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7. Rare Twin Gorillas Born in Virunga National Park, Congo

• Event: Second set of mountain gorilla twins born in Virunga Park, an extremely rare occurrence (only 1% twin rate) ([26:10]).
• Conservation Significance:
  • Recovery attributed to decades-long conservation work.
  • Twins linked to "hyperovulation" during times of group stability and low stress ([27:06]).
  • While mothers face greater challenges, recent twins are thriving at three months ([27:56]).
• Memorable Moment:
  • "There was a real sense of joy across the team. Moments like this are so incredibly unique...they remind us why this work matters."
    — Laura Parker, Head of Conservation, Virunga ([26:47])

Timestamps:

• Gorilla birth and conservation: [26:10]–[29:13]

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8. Other Headlines

Australian Broadcaster ABC Strike ([19:37])

• ABC staff strike over pay and AI concerns for the first time in 20 years, affecting major programs.
• Broad worry about potential AI replacing human journalists is cited ([21:06]).

Danish Election Outcome ([22:05])

• Social Democrats win most seats with worst result in a century amidst political turmoil following US pressure over Greenland ([22:29]).
• No clear majority—potential kingmaker role for the centrist Moderates party ([23:43]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the US-Iran present:
  "It was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I'm not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize...No, it wasn't nuclear related. It was oil and gas related."
  — Donald Trump ([02:51])

• On wine counterfeiting:
  "If somebody would like to make a false Angelus wanted to put the wax back again on top of the cork, they would have to melt it. But because of our process, if you heat up the wax..., you immediately destroy completely the DNA inside."
  — Benjamin Laforet ([25:20])

• On rare animal births:
  "Moments like this are so incredibly unique and they give everyone a big morale boost and they just remind us why this work matters."
  — Laura Parker ([26:47])

• On leaving Liverpool FC:
  "Liverpool, it's not just a football club. It's a passion, it's a history, it's a spirit. I can't explain in a word..."
  — Mohamed Salah ([14:35])

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Key Segment Timestamps

• [01:19] – Podcast begins
• [02:06] – US dual approach to Iran; Trump’s comments
• [03:41] – Expert analysis on troop deployment
• [04:12] – Details on 15-point plan
• [05:55] – US troop movements
• [06:50] – Meta fined for child safety
• [10:25] – Russia’s record drone attack on Ukraine
• [11:46] – Artemis 2 Moon mission
• [14:19] – Mohamed Salah leaving Liverpool
• [24:03] – Counterfeit wine solution
• [26:10] – Twin gorilla births in Congo
• [19:37], [22:05] – ABC strike, Danish election

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Tone and Style

Consistent with the BBC World Service's clear, factual, and analytical reporting—balancing urgent developments with human stories and expert voices.

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Transcript

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[Oliver Conway]

you're listening to the Global News podcast from the BBC World Service. Hello, I'm Oliver Conway and we're recording this at 05:00 clock GMT on Wednesday 25th March. The US has reportedly sent Iran a 15 point plan to end the war. The social media giant Meta is ordered to pay $375 million in damages for misleading users over child safety and Russia launches nearly 1,000 drones at Ukraine. Also in the podcast we look at NASA's mission to fly humans deeper into space than ever before and there was

[Laura Parker]

a real sense of joy across the team. Moments like this are so incredibly unique and they give everyone a big morale boost and they just remind us why this work matters.

[Oliver Conway]

Delight as a second gorilla gives birth to twins in a national park in Congo, President Trump appears to be pursuing a twin approach to the war on Iran. On the one hand, he's reported to be sending thousands of US Paratroopers to the Middle east, raising the possibility that he intends to invade Iran's oil hub of Hague Island. But at the same time, US officials say Iran has been sent a 15 point plan to end the war. Speaking at the White House, President Trump said the two sides were already in negotiations and the Iranians, quote, badly want to make a deal. He also spoke about a gift from Iran related to the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz.

[President Donald Trump]

It was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I'm not going to tell you what that president is, but it was a very significant prize and they gave it to us and they said they were going to give it. So that meant one thing to me. We're dealing with the right people. No, it wasn't nuclear related. It was oil and gas related.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Was it related to the Strait of

[Laura Parker]

Hormuz and the flow of.

[President Donald Trump]

Yeah, it was related to the flow and to the strait, yeah.

[Oliver Conway]

A few hours later, Iran said it would allow what it called non hostile vessels to pass through the strait. In recent days, countries like China, India and Pakistan have managed to negotiate safe passage through the waterway. Despite this report of the possible progress, analysts like Ali Vaez from the International Crisis Group say the situation remains very dangerous.

[Ian Dennis]

The United States is now getting closer and closer to the prospect of putting boots on the ground. The President seems to have absolute belief in the ability of US Military to deliver results and he believes that taking over Iranian territory would force the Iranians to open up the straight of Hamas. This is an absolute catastrophe for the region and it might come to haunt the US And Israel.

[Oliver Conway]

I spoke to our US Correspondent David Willis and he told me first about the American peace plan.

[David Willis]

It's being reported here, Oliver, that the US has sent Iran a 15 point plan via intermediaries in Pakistan for ending this war. The sort of blueprint that the United States believes is needed to be signed up for by Iran. And according to the New York Times, it broadly addresses Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile programs and is said to include the demand that Iran abandoned any attempt to build a nuclear weapon. Now that is something which President Trump, to the surprise of many, I might add, said today that Iran had already agreed to. And this plan is also thought to include provisions regarding maritime routes given Iran's recent blocking of the Strait of Hormuz. It's unclear how widely the plan has been shared amongst Iranian officials or indeed whether Iran is likely to accept it as the basis for negotiation. And nor is it clear whether Israel, which of course has been bombing Iran together with the United States, is on board with the provisions included in this plan. Iran has of course denied that any negotiations are taking place with the United States. And President Trump once again refused to be drawn today on who in Iran the US Is negotiating with.

[Oliver Conway]

At the same time, there are reports that US Paratroopers are going to be heading to the Middle East. Is President Trump really thinking of trying to take Hog Island?

[David Willis]

Possibly. You're absolutely right. It's being reported that as well as two Marine expeditionary units. The Pentagon is sending more than 1,000 soldiers union from the 82nd Airborne Division to the region, including an elite contingent of paratroopers and rapid response forces. And that's in addition to the thousands of soldiers and Marines that are already in the region. It's not clear precisely where these members of the 82nd Airborne will be stationed. And President Trump didn't address troop deployments when he spoke to reporters in the Oval Office today. But the reports have prompted speculation that all this talk of negotiation could be aimed at perhaps soothing the financial markets and also buying time, as you mentioned there, Oliver, for the US to get troops in place ahead of a possible ground invasion.

[Oliver Conway]

David Willis, talking to me from Los Angeles. A US Jury has found that Meta violated New Mexico state law by misleading users over child safety. The tech giant was accused of allowing predators to get access to underage users, the thus enabling child sex abuse and human trafficking. It was ordered to pay $375 million in damages, less than the 2.2 billion requested by the state. The New Mexico attorney general who brought the case said the firm's executives knew their products harmed children and lied about it. Meta says it will appeal. I heard more from our North America technology correspondent, Lily Gamali.

[Lily Gamali]

Well, this trial is significant because it's the first time that a US State has managed to sue this company, Met over child safety and win. And Meta is one of the world's biggest tech companies. They own Instagram, they own Facebook, they own threads and WhatsApp. These are products that nearly all of us use in some form or fashion. And for years, states like New Mexico had a really hard time getting cases like this one on child safety in front of juries because the tech companies would say that under U.S. law, they're not responsible for content that people post on them. Here the state was able to successfully argue that this case was really about design choices, the algorithms that push certain content, and potential contacts to these kids. The fact that this case made it to a jury always carried a sense of historical consequence. But this verdict with this $375 million judgment only adds to that sense.

[Oliver Conway]

Yeah, and what exactly has Meta been found to have done wrong?

[Lily Gamali]

So Meta is specifically found to have willfully engaged in unfair trade practices in violation of consumer prot Laws. In New Mexico, the allegation which the jury bought here is that they misled the public when it comes to the safety of its platforms. Meta has said they disagree with this verdict. They're planning to appeal. As you mentioned, they also say they work really hard to keep people safe on their platforms. All along, they have taken issue with this idea that they don't do enough to protect children. In 2024, about a year and a half ago now, they launched something called Instagram Teen Accounts, which they say helps limit screen time and interactions with strangers, gives parents more control. But critics have said that that program is just window dressing. Doesn't do a lot to meaningfully address child safety concerns.

[Oliver Conway]

This is just one of a series of cases brought against Meta and other tech firms. Will the industry be worried here?

[Lily Gamali]

I think they are. And I would say certainly there's a feeling among advocates that I've been speaking to that there is a change in the works here. There's another case being considered by a jury right now in Los Angeles brought by a young woman who alleges Meta's Instagram is addictive and caused harm to her mental health there. There are parents all through the courthouse who have lost their kids to what they believe was social media addiction. And then you also have laws all around the world being considered or enacted to keep kids off social media.

[Oliver Conway]

Lilly Jamali in San Francisco. Starting on Monday night and continuing into the day of Tuesday, Russia launched nearly 1,000 drones against Ukraine. According to the Ukrainian military, the low cost but deadly weapons hit targets across the country, leaving several dead and more than a dozen injured. Our correspondent in Kyiv, Vitaly Shevchenko, has the details.

[Vitaly Shevchenko]

Normally, attacks of this scale happen at night, and they tend not to focus on western Ukraine. Overnight, five people were killed in attacks across Ukraine. And then in the afternoon, wave after wave of Russian drones flew west in broad daylight. And the damage they caused is severe, including to a 17th century church in Lviv. This was the attack. President Volodymyr Zelensky called this attack an absolute perversion which only Vladimir Putin can. Like in neighboring Ivano Frankivsk, two people were killed and a maternity hospital was damaged. The Ukrainian Air force says that this country was attacked. Attacked with the largest ever number of drones dispatched by Russia on a single day. 948, according to President Volodymyr Zelensky. The sheer scale of this attack shows that Russia has no plans to end this war.

[Oliver Conway]

Vitaly Shevchenko in Kyiv. If all goes to plan, this time next week, four astronauts will be heading for the history books as NASA's Artemis 2 mission carries them further from Earth than any human has ever been. They're due to fly around the moon as part of a plan for a manned return to the lunar surface. For the first time since the Apollo era half a century ago. Our science editor Rebecca Morel has been taking a closer look at the living conditions for the crew and how the mission will play out.

[Narrator/Reporter]

The astronauts making this epic journey are three Americans. Reid Wiseman, the missions commander who's had a lifelong love of flying but says he's scared of heights. Pilot Victor Glover, whose nickname is Ike. He says it stands for I know everything. Christina Cook, the only woman in the crew. She made history with the first all female spacewalk. And Jeremy Hansen from the Canadian Space Agency, who's never been to space before. The astronauts will spend 10 days in the Orion capsule. The compact living space is where the four will exercise, eat, work and sleep. The astronauts will use a water dispenser for drinking and to rehydrate their food. They've each chosen their favorite meals for the trip and a step just beneath the hatch doubles up as a flywheel exercise machine. The astronauts will work out for 30 minutes every day. The mission to the moon and back will last about 10 days. The first day the astronauts will orbit the Earth, checking the spacecraft's vital systems. On the second day, they'll depart for the moon. The journey takes about four days. As the astronauts fly around the moon's far side, they'll see parts of the lunar surface never seen by human eyes before. After that, they'll begin their four day journey home. The return is one of the most dangerous parts of the entire mission and the crew will be relying on Orion's heat shield. It will have to protect the astronauts from temperatures of 2,700 degrees Celsius as the spacecraft speeds through the Earth's atmosphere that's half as hot as the surface of the sun. The heat shield was badly damaged during the first uncrewed Artemis mission. But by changing the angle of Orion's re entry, NASA is confident this won't happen again. Once the spacecraft is safely through, a series of parachutes will be deployed to slow it down. The astronauts will make a gentle splashdown in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of California where a recovery team will be waiting.

[Oliver Conway]

Our science editor, Rebecca Morel, one of the Premier League's leading goal scorers, Mohamed Salah, will be leaving Liverpool Football Club at the end of the season. The 33 year old Egyptian international announced his forthcoming departure in a video on social media.

[Ian Dennis]

I never imagined how deeply this club, this city, these people would become part of my life. Liverpool, it's not just a football club. It's a passion, it's a history, it's a spirit. I can't explain in a word, with

[Oliver Conway]

his reflection, here's our senior football commentator Ian Dennis.

[Ian Dennis]

Those who know him have always said to me that he would always leave on his own terms, but it will be farewell to a Liverpool legend. 255 goals. Only Roger Hunt with 285 and Ian Rush at 346 have scored more than Mo Salah. And that's just his goals. You throw in his assists as well and he's had an incredible 374 goal involvements in 435 appearances. I mean, we are talking of not just a Liverpool legend, a Premier League legend and an African legend because last week against Galatasaray at Anfield, he became the first African player to score 50 goals in the Champions League. So when you talk about greats, then Mo Salah is definitely one of those. I mean, he's undoubtedly underperformed this season. 10 goals. If you compare that to his previous goals tally 44 in his first season, then 27, 23, 31, 31, 30, 25 and 34. And I think the manner of his departure as well is fitting for his level of service that he's given Liverpool Football Club over those nine years, but also it's fitting for Liverpool as a football club, bearing in mind what happened at the end of November and December when he'd had that fallout and there was question marks over his future prior to going to the African cup of nations because he was on the bench for those three successive games, the first time incidentally, that had ever happened in his Liverpool career. And that just didn't seem right for the departure of Mo Salah to go with dividing the fan base, that cloud of uncertainty. Whereas this on his terms he will get the send off that the Liverpool fans will undoubtedly want to give him when he does Depart now on his own terms at the end of the season.

[Oliver Conway]

Ian Dennis still to come on the

[Benjamin Laforet]

podcast, somebody could just drink a real bottle of Angelus, fill it again with poor quality wine and sell it again.

[Oliver Conway]

The man trying to stop French wine fraudsters.

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[Oliver Conway]

You're listening to the global News podcast. Journalists at Australia's public broadcaster ABC have gone on strike, walking out for the first time in 20 years. They're protesting over pay conditions and the possible use of artificial intelligence to replace them. Our correspondent in Sydney, Katie Watson told me about the disruption.

[Katie Watson]

What it means is some of the big programs, the flagship shows such as 7:30, which is an evening current affairs program, it's breakfast show. Those are not going ahead. There'll be some reruns, there'll be some pre programmed shows playing music as well as BBC World Service which is going to also help plug the gap.

[Oliver Conway]

Apparently they were offered a 10% pay rise. Why is that not enough?

[Katie Watson]

So they were offered a staggered 10% pay rise, that's over three years. So it would be 3.5% the first year and then the following two years 3.25%. So 10% over three years. Well, Australia's annual inflation rate in January was 3.8%. But one of the other issues was that staff were also offered a thousand dollar bonus, which sounds good, but it's not for casual staff. And actually most of the workforce are on fixed term contracts and casual contracts. And so those people would not be part of that.

[Oliver Conway]

And what are the particular concerns about artificial intelligence?

[Katie Watson]

So there's broadly a concern that the broadcaster is refusing to rule out replacing some staff with artificial intelligence. Now, this is not something that Australia faces alone, but that was just one of the other issues that the union members who voted voted against this offer. And so ABC now needs to take this to the workplace tribunal, the Fair Work Commission, and try and resolve the dispute somehow.

[Oliver Conway]

Katie Watson, Denmark's governing Social Democratic Party came top in Tuesday's parliamentary election, but with its worst showing in more than a century, the Prime Minister, Meda Federicson had been hoping for a poll boost after standing up to Donald Trump's threats to take the semi autonomous territory of Greenland. Despite falling short of a majority, she says she is ready to serve as prime minister again. At the party's election night gathering, Interior Minister Christian Rabjerg Madsen explained why she should stay in the top job.

[Christian Rabjerg Madsen]

Greenlandic crisis and the totally unacceptable pressure that we have been put under by, by the American administration have been a tough thing to deal with. But I also think that it's shown that we have the right Prime Minister and the Prime Minister that is ready to take Denmark through also very tough, tough times.

[Oliver Conway]

From Copenhagen, Adrienne Murray gave us an update on the results.

[Adrienne Murray]

The Daily Prime Minister, Mellon Frederiksen, her party, the Social Democrats, have secured the most votes. She's got almost 22% of the vote. And now that means she has 38 seats in parliament together with the Red Bloc, that is a group of allied parties, because this is a coalition, that type of parliament where there's many parties on the left and the right. Those allied parties together have 84 seats. The opposition, the blue bloc on the right, they have 77. So that gives the red bloc this small lead. But neither side has the required 90 seats to have a majority in Parliament. So we're in this situation now where it's not quite clear what form the next coalition government will take. Interestingly though, there's a small party in the centre called the Moderates and they have 14 seats. They are led by Lars Nichol Rasmussen. He's a former Prime Minister himself and was also the foreign minister, and Metta Frederik Simms previous government. He is now positioned really with a lot of power to steer the course of what this next government might look like.

[Oliver Conway]

Adrian Murray in Copenhagen. Imagine spending hundreds of dollars on a bottle of fine wine, only to find you've actually bought cheap plonk that's been falsely labeled. Well, a vineyard in France has come up with a unique solution to fight the fraudsters. As Richard Hamilton explains, in recent years,

[Richard Hamilton]

French police have dismantled many criminal networks that have made millions of dollars by exporting counterfeit bottles of expensive vintages. To try to stop the fraudsters, vineyards have used secure labels, secret engravings and even microchips on the bottles. But those methods are still not foolproof.

[Benjamin Laforet]

Somebody could just drink a real bottle of Angelus, fill it again with poor quality wine, cork it again, even if the original cork of Angelus, if the guy is really good, and sell it again.

[Richard Hamilton]

That's Benjamin Laforet, the head of research and development at Chateau Angelus in Bordeaux. He's invented a system for identifying counterfeit wine. Using the unique genetic code of each vine from the vineyard, his team mix samples of DNA from the grapes with wax from local beehives, which are then used to seal the bottle. If consumers suspect they've been cheated, they can send a sample of the wax back to the chateau for analysis and a definitive answer. Benjamin says the really clever bit is that the counterfeiters can't recreate this unique seal.

[Benjamin Laforet]

If somebody would like to make a false Angelus wanted to put the wax back again on top of the cork, they would have to melt it. But because of our process, if you heat up the wax to the temperature which makes the wax melt, you immediately destroy completely the DNA inside.

[Richard Hamilton]

Benjamin Laforet says the idea came to him one night when he couldn't get to sleep. After that, he spent a year developing this system and has now patented. Sounds like a lot of work. But since bottles of Angelus are sold for up to $800, protecting them is a good investment. Above all, he says, the reputation of his vineyard depends on customers being able to trust that their wines are the real thing and not sophisticated fakes.

[Oliver Conway]

Richard Hamilton. Next to the Congolese jungle. Well, that is the sound of a mountain gorilla. Officials at Virunga national park in the Democratic Republic of Congo have reported that one of them has delivered twins. It's a pretty rare occurrence. Only 1% of these endangered creatures are twins, compared to about 4% of humans. And even more remarkable, it's the second set of twins born in the park in the past few months. Laura Parker is head of conservation programs at Virunga National Park. She spoke to Rebecca Kesby about the

[Laura Parker]

reaction there when the rangers reported the second twin birth. There was a real sense of joy across the team. Moments like this are so incredibly unique and they give everyone a big morale boost and they just remind us why this work matters.

[Rebecca Kesby]

Two for one, twins do tend to run in families, don't they? Do we think that the two mothers might be related?

[Laura Parker]

We don't. And in fact there hasn't been a lot of research done on this because they are so incredibly rare. But what we do know is that it's likely due to a rare biological event called hyperovulation, which we see in humans as well when two eggs or two ova are released. It is natural, but it's a very uncommon occurrence. But it may be more likely when females are in very good physical condition, when there's a lot of stability and social cohesion within the groups and when stress is limited. You know, mountain gorillas have recovered significantly since the 80s and 90s and not because there aren't the same challenges that we had back largely because of sustained long term conservation efforts.

[Rebecca Kesby]

And I suppose then these mothers may have similar issues that human mothers might have with twins. Are you worried that it might be a little bit too much?

[Laura Parker]

We're certainly not worried it might be too much. Mortality in infants and mountain gorillas is already quite high. But you know, gorillas are not biologically adapted for twins. You know, gorilla mothers are adapted to raise one infant at a time. They carry them constantly. Now gorillas also walk on all fours, so carrying two babies at one time can be physically demanding for her. So survival can be more challenging in that way. But the gorilla births that we had in January, those twins are now approaching three months, which is already a significant milestone in their survival. You know, all signs of observation right now point to very little stress on the mother. Gorillas are, I think, even more exceptional than humans in their ability to work with one another. And the males do a great job keeping the group calm, supporting the mother, but it's really up to her, you know, Gorill. They're not like lions or other species that can share the burden of child raising. It's, you know, the mother nurses alone and carries the infants alone. We don't want to over anthropomorphize this, but it's really such an amazing event. And even when you're observing them, when you see the video, just how calm the mother is. I think there was a video posted on our social media today, even showing the mother with, you know, the two babies in her arms and then she's caressing a juvenile next to her. That seems to be quite curious.

[Oliver Conway]

Laura Parker from the Virunga national park in the Democratic Republic of Congo. And that is all from us for now, but the global news podcast will be back very soon. This edition was mixed by Daniel Fox and produced by Chantal Hartle and Siobhan Leahy. Our editor is Karen Martin. I'm Oliver Conway. Until next time. Goodbye.

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