US Supreme Court rules against Trump's global tariffs

Summary

Global News Podcast – US Supreme Court Rules Against Trump’s Global Tariffs

BBC World Service | Host: Oliver Conway | Date: February 20, 2026
Episode Theme:
This episode covers a major ruling by the US Supreme Court overturning President Trump’s global tariff policy—a critical decision for US economic and foreign policy. The show explores implications for Trump’s agenda, potential economic fallout, reactions from key figures, and other top international stories, including rising military tensions in Iran, the humanitarian cost of the Ukraine war, AI regulation, royal scandal in the UK, landmark wildlife crime prosecution, the plight of Italy’s Ladin community during the Winter Olympics, and progress on Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia basilica.

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Key Stories and Insights

US Supreme Court Defeats Trump’s Tariff Policy

[00:36–05:50]

• Main Decision:
  The US Supreme Court struck down a core part of President Trump’s tariff agenda by a 6–3 vote, ruling he lacked the authority to unilaterally impose global tariffs—shifting power back to Congress.
• Context:
  Tariffs have been central to Trump’s economic and foreign policy, seen as both leverage and a favorite personal tool.
• Expert Economic Reaction:
  Justin Wolfers (University of Michigan) described the day as “extraordinary for the global economy,” criticizing Trump’s rationale and flagging the possibility for lawsuits seeking tariff refunds:
  • Quote: “First of all, countries don’t pay tariffs. I want to be really clear on that. Who has paid tariffs is the American companies who brought it in… What if we had a trade war… and all along the whole darn thing turned out to be unconstitutional and illegal. Wow, what a day.” (Justin Wolfers, [02:44])
• Political and Economic Impact:
  • Gary O’Donoghue (BBC Washington) calls it "most certainly the biggest economic case" of Trump's presidency, noting Trump might use other legislative loopholes but will face a significant budget hole (~$280bn from 2025 tariffs).
  • Quote: “Tariffs are a pillar, a central pillar of not just his economic policy, but his foreign policy... That is a big hole that they will feel." (Gary O’Donoghue, [03:20])
• Legal Aftermath:
  Further litigation is likely as businesses and possibly foreign companies pursue tariff refunds.
  • Quote: This “could spawn a whole load more court cases in the coming months.” (Gary O’Donoghue, [04:54])
• Political Fallout:
  • Despite the conservative Supreme Court majority ruling against Trump, O'Donoghue expects the administration to seek alternative means, like reframing tariffs as national security measures.
  • Quote: “What they say about the Supreme Court is not final because it’s infallible. It’s infallible because it’s final.” ([05:06])

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Escalating US–Iran Tensions

[05:50–07:25]

• New Developments:
  Norway withdraws troops as President Trump contemplates military strikes against Iran; Iran threatens US bases.
• Military Build-up:
  Mark Urban (defense analyst) details a significant US deployment—hundreds of warplanes and missile batteries across Middle Eastern allies:
  • Quote: “There are now hundreds of American warplanes within striking range of Iran… They are thinking about a sustained campaign." (Mark Urban, [06:23]))
• Long-term Risks:
  The conflict’s escalation path remains unpredictable, with regime change objectives seen as particularly challenging.

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US Blocks International AI Regulation

[07:25–09:54]

• AI Summit Update:
  At a Delhi summit, the US reiterates total opposition to a global AI regulatory regime, delaying joint statements.
  • Quote: "The White House technology adviser has said the Trump administration totally rejects efforts to agree international rules for AI." (Oliver Conway, [07:45])
• Diverging Views:
  • Zoe Kleinman (BBC technology editor) notes “a real air of excitement and optimism,” but significant global division on regulation.
• Educational Impact:
  Sir Demis Hassabis (DeepMind co-founder) advocates STEM education but believes AI will democratize creativity and technical skills.
  • Quote: "Even though these systems will start being able to code, you still need to orchestrate them and... understand what it is they're doing...” (Demis Hassabis, [09:17])

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Investigating Prince Andrew over ‘Epstein Files’ Email

[09:54–13:53]

• Arrest and Ongoing Investigation:
  British police search Royal Lodge after arresting Andrew Mountbatten Windsor (former Prince Andrew) for alleged misconduct related to government documents shared with Jeffrey Epstein.
• Case Details:
  Daniel Sanford (BBC correspondent) explains the probe centers on an email where Andrew, acting as trade envoy, forwarded UK government reports to Epstein just after a trip—distinct from previous sexual misconduct allegations.
  • Quote: “What you see in the email chain is apparently Andrew receiving those reports and then five minutes later forwarding them to Jeffrey Epstein..." (Daniel Sanford, [12:29])
• Next Steps:
  Police must build broader context before Crown Prosecution assesses formal charges. Andrew remains free under investigation.
  • Clarification: “He’s been released under investigation... free to go about your daily business, but we are still investigating you.” (Daniel Sanford, [13:27])

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Human Cost of Russia’s War in Ukraine

[15:17–17:51]

• Casualty Analysis:
  BBC names over 180,000 dead Russian soldiers; true toll likely higher.
• Geographic Impact:
  Olga Evshina (BBC Russian Service) reveals rural regions bear disproportionate losses while big-city dwellers are shielded from the war’s scale, helping preserve domestic political stability.
  • Quote: “The way the losses are distributed is made so that people from the major cities may not notice the true scale of losses.” (Olga Evshina, [16:42])
• Suppression of Dissent:
  Draconian censorship inside Russia keeps public unrest in check.

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Landmark Lion Poaching Conviction Using DNA Evidence

[17:51–20:12]

• Breakthrough Case:
  For the first time, prosecutors in Zimbabwe use DNA from a radio-collared dead lion to convict poachers, linking body parts found in a village directly to the specific animal:
  • Quote: "...we were able to demonstrate that those body parts were linked to a specific lion that had been killed illegally. That is the first time… that has ever been done." (Markus Bergener, [19:13])
• Global Impact:
  The case sets a powerful precedent for future wildlife crime prosecutions.

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Italy’s Ladin Minority Overshadowed by Winter Olympics

[20:12–23:59]

• Identity and Recognition:
  Cortina’s Winter Olympics revive frustration among the Ladins, a linguistic minority not formally recognized in their region (Veneto), unlike in South Tyrol.
  • Quote: “It's not the general Italian... but also tiny realities outside mainstream have a right to exist.” (Roland Vera, [21:30])
• Cultural Tensions:
  Ladin locals fly their flag as protest, worry about gentrification and the threat to preserving their culture as house prices soar.
  • Quote: "Our children cannot buy a home here, so they will have to leave; once we are scattered, our culture becomes much harder to live and pass on." (Elsa Zardini, [23:12])

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Sagrada Familia’s Tallest Tower Completed

[23:59–26:29]

• Historic Construction Milestone:
  The renowned basilica in Barcelona reaches its full height after 140 years as workers install the 172.5-meter-tall Tower of Jesus, capped by a 17m-high, 12-ton cross made of 15,000 ceramic pieces.
  • Summary Quote: “It now stands at 172.5 meters tall... the newest addition to Barcelona’s skyline.” (Tom Bailey, [25:37])
• Project Outlook:
  Full completion expected around 2034.

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Memorable Quotes

• "First of all, countries don’t pay tariffs... What if we had a trade war... and all along the whole darn thing turned out to be unconstitutional and illegal. Wow, what a day." — Justin Wolfers, [02:44]
• “It’s infallible because it’s final. There’s nowhere to go from, from here in terms of challenging this.” — Gary O’Donoghue, [05:06]
• “Families from small towns and rural areas are dying disproportionately... so that people from the major cities may not notice.” — Olga Evshina, [16:42]
• “Our children cannot buy a home here... our culture becomes much harder to live and pass on.” — Elsa Zardini, [23:12]
• “... able to demonstrate that those body parts were linked to a specific lion... the first time... that has ever been done.” — Markus Bergener, [19:13]

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Timestamps for Major Sections

• US Tariffs Supreme Court Ruling: [00:36–05:50]
• US–Iran Tensions: [05:50–07:25]
• AI Regulation Summit: [07:25–09:54]
• Prince Andrew Investigation: [09:54–13:53]
• Russian War Casualties: [15:17–17:51]
• Lion DNA Poaching Case: [17:51–20:12]
• Ladin Community & Winter Olympics: [20:12–23:59]
• Sagrada Familia: [23:59–26:29]

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains the BBC’s measured, analytical tone, emphasizing expert insight, fact-based reporting, and a global perspective. Frequent attributions and on-location correspondents add authority and immediacy to key stories.

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For listeners wanting a clear sense of global affairs, this episode delivers sharp reporting on a pivotal US legal decision, shifting geopolitics, and the lived realities behind the headlines.

Transcript

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First of all, countries don't pay tariffs. I want to be really clear on that. Who has paid tariffs is the American companies who brought it in. But that's one of the big questions. Will people be eligible to get refunds for what happened so far? But I want to hit you just with one big point. What if we had a trade war potentially caused much of the world's economy, including the United States, to go down the toilet, and all along the whole darn thing turned out to be unconstitutional and illegal. Wow, what a day. And what a world we're in.

[Oliver Conway]

The BBC's Matthew Amruliwaller asked our correspondent in Washington, Gary O', Donohue, for his assessment.

[Gary O'Donoghue]

One of the biggest cases of either of Donald Trump's terms, for him to lose in the Supreme Court, no question, most certainly the biggest economic case. Tariffs are a pillar, a central pillar of not just his economic policy, but his foreign policy, his outlook on the world. But I will say this. In recent times, when he's been asked about this case, he's not really put a lot of store by winning it. He's always said, actually, oh, we'll just find a different way of doing it. And, you know, there are tariffs that can be imposed under different parts of the legislation, national security legislation. Some of those aluminium and steel tariffs are already imposed under a different provision in the US Code that has been challenged in the court, but not really overturned in any sense. He's managed to keep those. So he may try and do some of that, just reclassify these as national security issues and do it that way. But in the short term, you've got to remember that over this last calendar year, 2025, the tariffs brought in somewhere in the region of 280 odd billion. That was a $200 billion rise on 2024 the year before. So that's a lot of money. And that's got into, you know, improving the position in the deficit, etcetera, etcetera. So that is a big hole that they will feel. And, you know, there will be importers, there may be foreign companies, there may be consumer groups even, who may feel, do you know what? We'd like a bit of our money back. So this could spawn a whole load more court cases in the coming months.

[Oliver Conway]

Politically, though, Gary, you watch the President

[Daniel Sanford]

every day and we are likely to

[Oliver Conway]

get a reaction from him because the one thing he absolutely hates from any quarter is to be reined in, to

[Gary O'Donoghue]

be told, no, that's right. And of course, you know, the majority on this case, but the majority is 6, 3 against the President. And that's of course the, you know, in normal times, that's the conservative majority he has on the Supreme Court, and it's gone against him this time and he won't like it. And of course, what they say about the Supreme Court is not final because it's infallible. It's infallible because it's final. There's nowhere to go from, from here in terms of challenging this. And they will have to comply if they want to be within the law. I'm pretty sure they've got a plan B for this because if you go back to the oral arguments in the autumn and you listen to the tone of the questioning from people like Amy Barrett and Neil Gorsuch and others, it was pretty hostile to the government's case. So I think they may have seen this coming.

[Oliver Conway]

Gary O', Donoghue, our North America correspondent. As tensions between the US and Iran continue to escalate, Norway has withdrawn 60 soldiers from the Middle East. It comes after President Trump said he would decide whether or not to launch strikes on Iran in the next 10 days, echoing threats he made before the US attacked Venezuela. In response, the Iranian authorities have warned that US Military bases in the region would be a legitimate target in any conflict. Defense analyst Mark Urban says the buildup of American assets is now significant.

[Mark Urban]

There are now hundreds of American warplanes within striking range of Iran, which was not the case when we had those protests early in January and President Trump made a threat at that time that he wasn't really able to carry out. The second thing is they've put air defence and missile defense batteries in Jordan, the uae, Saudi Arabia, Israel. And the third thing is we get the sense from the types of planes and other equipment that they're putting in that they are thinking about a sustained campaign. In other words, not something that would just happen for 24 hours like the one at the end of the so called 12 Day War in June last year where the Americans came in after the Israelis, but something that could go on for weeks because frankly, the questions about this and how you get the Iranians to comply either on the nuclear issue or you escalate to a type of regime change, type of objective, are really substantial. Nobody can be quite sure how that can be achieved by military action from the air alone.

[Oliver Conway]

Mark Urban and President Trump has said he is considering limited military strikes on Iran. We have more on the military buildup in the area on our YouTube channel. Search for BBC News and you'll find global news in our podcast section. Despite increasing warnings about the potential downsides of artificial Intelligence from lost jobs to misinformation, high energy use to massive water consumption. The the US government is strongly opposed to any regulation, saying the focus should be on innovation rather than safety. Now, the White House technology adviser has said the Trump administration totally rejects efforts to agree international rules for AI. Michael Kratzios was speaking on the final day of a big AI summit in India. Delegates had been hoping to agree a statement setting out a joint approach to handling the technology that's now been delayed until Saturday. Our technology editor Zoe Kleinman is there.

[Zoe Kleinman]

There are two contrasting stories for me to tell you from the summit here in Delhi. The first is there's a real air of excitement and optimism about AI and its promises. And there's been a show of unity from the VIPs. You've traveled here from all over the world. That's the tech brothers, the tech bosses and also the world leaders. But on the other hand, there's also concern about the potential dangers of this technology as it advances. And there's also a lot of division over how best to regulate it. There have been calls for a UN style body to oversee governance on a global level, but the US government has today completely vetoed that in no uncertain terms. Meanwhile, I caught up with Sir Denis Hassabis. He's a British computer scientist and the co founder of DeepMind. And I asked him another pressing question, which is given the massive disruption that AI is likely to have on jobs in the working world, what should we be encouraging our children to study at school?

[Gary O'Donoghue]

I think it's still very important to have a STEM education. I would still say, like if you know how to code or do math. Even though these systems will start being able to code, you still need to orchestrate them and actually understand what it is they're doing and give them the problem that they need to solve. So I think the technical, if you have a technical background, I think you'll still be at an advantage in using these systems.

[Zoe Kleinman]

He's got a Nobel Prize, they said. Emis has does know what he's talking about. But he did also tell me he thinks that more people will be able to be creative with the tech and build new things where there have been barriers in the past if they haven't had the sufficient technical skills. As AI gets better at doing this stuff and helping them more.

[Oliver Conway]

Zoe Kleinman at the AI summit in India, a day after the arrest of King Charles's brother Andrew, police are still searching Royal Lodge, his 30 room former home near Windsor Castle. Andrew Mountbatten Windsor is being investigated over alleged misconduct in public office. The former Prince hasn't responded to the BBC's requests for comment about recent allegations arising from the Epstein files, but he's previously denied any wrongdoing. Andrew was released on Thursday evening after 11 hours in police custody. So what happens now? I asked our UK correspondent, Daniel Sanford.

[Daniel Sanford]

The investigation started 11 days ago and they started with this email that seemed to suggest that Prince Andrew had been forwarding government documents to Jeffrey Epstein. And they'd been doing this assessment phase until yesterday, which was all about working out whether or not they should start a full investigation. And then yesterday, very dramatically, they went in and arrested the King's brother. But what they'll need to do is to kind of build a context behind that email and any other emails which might suggest wrongdoing. So that means they'll be needing to get hold of any other communications there may have been. So are there still old emails sitting on servers, for example, controlled by the Palace? Are there any emails on servers controlled by the UK government? Can they get access to those? Can they get access to any of the FBI documentation, but in an unredacted form? So those Epstein files that anyone can look through, many of them have names and email addresses blacked out. And so what they'll be trying to do is build up a picture that that would explain whether or not that email and any other emails that suggest he was sending documents to Jeffrey Epstein have a context which might explain a perfectly innocent reason behind that, or whether there's a context that can be found which suggests there was some kind of corrupt reason behind that. And only once they've managed to build that bigger picture, will they probably go back to the King's brother Andrew, and ask him further questions about what they've uncovered. And then there'll be the big moment when, between them, the Thames Valley Police, the force that are leading this investigation, and the Crown Prosecution Service, which is the decision making body on whether or not a charge can be brought, will have to decide whether or not to charge the King's brother with misconduct in public office, which is the kind of formal name for the offence, and whether he would then go forward for trial.

[Oliver Conway]

And just to clarify, that email came to light as a result of the publication of the Epstein files in the us?

[Daniel Sanford]

Yes. I mean, ironically, a lot of the interest in Andrew around the Epstein files has been around his relationship with Virginia Giuffre, who he'd originally said he'd never met. And then there were these pictures that seemed to show that he had met her and Then emails came out that suggesting that they did in some way know each other. But it turns out that it's actually nothing to do with those sexual allegations that actually ended up with the King's brother getting arrested. When the big dump of Epstein files happened in January, buried in amongst that big dump of files was this email where essentially Andrew had returned from a trip to Asia which he'd made on behalf of the UK government as a trade envoy, had received some reports from that trip. And what you is what you see in the email chain is apparently Andrew receiving those reports and then five minutes later forwarding them to Jeffrey Epstein, a man who by then had already been convicted of sexual offenses in the United States.

[Oliver Conway]

And briefly, are there any restrictions on the former prince's movement?

[Daniel Sanford]

There are not. Sometimes when people are arrested, when the police release them for further investigation, there might be some kind of police bail. They're told that they need to report to a police station every week or they maybe have their passport removed. In Andrew's case, he's been released. Under investigation is the term. And all that means is you're free to go about your daily business, but we are still investigating you, Daniel Sanford.

[Oliver Conway]

And still to come on the podcast, it's not the general Italian pizza and mandolino, but also tiny realities outside mainstream have a right to exist. We hear from one of the smallest communities in Italy overshadowed by the Winter Olympics.

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Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the global News podcast. The BBC has identified the names of more than 180,000 Russian soldiers killed so far in the war in Ukraine. The true figure is likely to be much higher as many deaths on the battlefield are not recorded. The analysis from the BBC Russian Service found that the number killed last year is likely to be the highest since the war began. It also reveals that rural parts of Russia are bearing the heaviest toll. Olga Evshina has the details.

[Olga Evshina]

It seems that the spikes in Russian losses in our name by name list which we compiled together with the Russian outlet mediazona and a group of volunteers, it seems the spikes coincide with the between Russian president and American president or roughly around those dates. So it would be fair to think that Russia is always trying to push hard on the front line before the important diplomatic negotiations, seeing this as a trump card during those talks.

[Oliver Conway]

Now, it's long been suggested that President Putin has tried to shield certain parts of the Russian population from the war in terms of sending men there. Tell us about how other parts or the various parts of Russia have been affected.

[Olga Evshina]

Yes, we did a detailed analysis of our name by name list, which as you said contains more than 180,000 names now. And we see that the majority of losses come from small towns and rural areas disproportionately. But on the other hand, the majority of Russian population has long been living in the major Cities, more than 100,000 citizens. So this, this means that the way the losses are distributed is made so that people from the major cities may not notice the true scale of losses. They notice it to some degree, but not the true scale.

[Oliver Conway]

Now the fact that so many people died last year, is that having any impact on attitudes towards the war inside Russia?

[Olga Evshina]

It's a very good question which is very hard to answer. Since the start of the invasion, Russia has introduced draconial laws, sort of war censorship and people know that they may go to prison even for very fact of calling invasion a war and not so called special military operation as Moscow insists. That's why it's very hard to notice any, any dissent or anything like that. People prefer to stay as silent about it as possible.

[Oliver Conway]

Olga Ivchina from the BBC Russian Service. For the first time, DNA from a dead lion has been used to prosecute the poachers who killed it. Investigators in Zimbabwe were able to identify a missing animal from body parts found in a village leading to the arrest of two poachers. In the past it's been difficult to prove from body parts alone that a lion was killed deliberately. Richard Hamilton has the story.

[Richard Hamilton]

In 2024, investigators noticed that a radio collar on a lion in Whanggae national park near Victoria Falls had stopped working at the time that the lion was fitted with the collar. Blood samples had also been taken and stored in a laboratory for research purposes. The investigators tracked the animal's last known location and in a nearby village they found lion meat, claws and teeth. Two men from the village were arrested. The presence of body parts is not in itself conclusive proof of a crime, as the animal could have died from natural causes. But DNA samples were taken and compared against a new national database and enabling the individual missing animal to be identified. Markus Bergener is from the South African branch of the organisation Traffic Wildlife.

[Oliver Conway]

Forensics is done, and has been done in the past, to link wildlife parts to a species and prove that those parts come from a certain species. This case was very different. In this case, through the forensic lab work, we were able to demonstrate that those body parts were linked to a specific line, to the specific line that had been killed illegally. And that is the first time that we're aware that that has ever been done.

[Richard Hamilton]

The evidence was presented in court and two poachers were jailed. Lions are among the most trafficked big cats in the world, with body parts traded for ornaments, jewelry and witchcraft. This case has been hailed as a step change for wildlife crime investigations. Traffic says it shows that when technology, law enforcement and long term investment come together, it sets a powerful precedent for tackling organized poaching across Africa and the world.

[Oliver Conway]

Richard Hamilton reporting. The Winter Olympics, which finish on Sunday, are being held in the Italian mountain resort of Cortina, the same place they were staged 70 years ago. But even as some enjoy this renewed moment in the spotlight, people in one of the region's oldest communities say it's revived a long standing frustration around recognition and identity. As the BBC's Carla Conti reports, away

[Carla Conti]

from the adrenaline of the Games, another story has been unfolding here. The Ladins are one of Italy's smallest and oldest linguistic minorities. I asked Roland Vera, president of the General Ladin Union of the Dolomites, what in his opinion defines Latin identity?

[Oliver Conway]

The primary character is being intimately connected with the Dolomites, with these beautiful mountains full of legions and of traditions.

[Carla Conti]

Ladin endured because these valleys were once hard to reach. It lived through empire, fascism and migration. In the neighboring South Tyrol region, it is recognized as an official language alongside Italian and German. Here in Veneto, where Cortina sits, it is not. As the Olympic spotlight returned, Ladin leaders had hoped for some acknowledgment of that history.

[Oliver Conway]

We awaited at least some mentioning showing that it's not the general Italian, let's say pizza and mandolino, but also tiny Realities outside mainstream have a right to exist, they say.

[Carla Conti]

Letters to organizers received no reply. In a statement to the BBC, the Milano Cortina organizing committee said it has the utmost respect for the cultures of the territories shaping the Games and that it has promoted local identities throughout its activities. It added that it must follow the host city contract agreed with the International Olympic Committee, which requires the use of the IOC's two official languages, French and English, alongside Italian. But for Ladin representatives, the concern goes beyond what appears in official communications. Walking through Cortina, you'll notice something beyond the Olympic branding. There are blue, white and green flags hanging from balconies across town. Here, ladens make up around half of the town's population. Elsa Zardini is the president of the Union of the Ladens of Ampezzo.

[Zoe Kleinman]

We decided to put out our flag, a very special flag that reflects the colours of our land. The green of the meadows, the white of the snow, the blue of the sky.

[Carla Conti]

This is not just about ceremony, she says. The First Olympics in 1956 transformed Cortina from a mountain town into a luxury destination.

[Zoe Kleinman]

Major events like the Winter Olympics push up house prices to levels we simply cannot afford. Our children cannot buy a home here, so they will have to leave once we are scattered. How culture becomes much harder to live and pass on.

[Carla Conti]

Speaking to both Elsa and Roland, it becomes clear that Latin culture is not simply a relic of the past. It is spoken at home and even sung by young musicians like the Latin band Gotha. When the crowds leave and the meadows are packed away, the Latins will remain in these valleys. Whether their children can afford to stay may determine what survives long after the Olympic flame goes out.

[Oliver Conway]

Carla Conti reporting. It's one of the top architectural wonders of the world, with millions of visitors every year. But the Sagrada Familia Church in Barcelona is still not finished, more than 140 years after work began. Today, though, a major landmark was reached with the completion of the tallest tower, which has changed the skyline of the city. Tom Bailey told me more so today

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has been this real kind of landmark moment in this epic building project that's been going on actually since the late 1880s. What's been happening today is the basilica has reached its highest point. It now stands at 172.5 meters tall. After this, central cross was attached to the central tower, which is known as the Tower of Jesus. And this was a very, very elaborate process that involved cranes and workmen up on rooftops to winch this vast cross place. Now, to give you some Scale here, it weighs over 12 tons. It's 17 meters tall and it's 13 meters in width. This cross, it's made of over 15,000 pieces of white ceramic. And the idea is that it reflects the sunlight. So this was hoisted into place in this operation, which was actually originally planned for last week, but due to gales which buffeted Barcelona, it actually took place today. Now, as you'd expect, this drew quite a lot of attention. People in the streets below watching, and also thousands more watching on a live stream, which. Which streamed all the pictures of this. And if anyone was watching, they would have seen exactly why it was a good idea to postpone this during windy weather. Looked very, very precarious for the guys up there on the roof.

[Oliver Conway]

Yeah. And what does it exactly look like? You've got those four towers that have been there for a long run. Then the central one, which is relatively new. And this is at the top?

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[Oliver Conway]

Yeah. And how much more work is there to go?

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[Oliver Conway]

Tom Bailey. And that is all from us for now, but the Global News Podcast will be back soon. And don't forget our sister podcast, the Global Story, which looks more in depth at a single issue. This edition was mixed by Daphne Evans and produced by Richard Hamilton. Our editors, Karen Martin. I'm Oliver Conway. Until next time. Goodbye.

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