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AI had the time of my life.
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A. I never felt this way before.
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And I owe it all to you.
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Try Monday Sidekick.
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AI you'll love to use on Monday.com. Los angeles.
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Hi, kirby.
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Hi, sarah.
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Welcome to los angeles.
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Glams. This is kind of a moment for Sarah and myself. We're kind of like, just staring at her in awe, like she's actually here in the flesh. After watching her on our TV screens.
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Theaters, cutting you out of magazines and putting you on, like, my vision board.
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Vision board.
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That's an honor. Thank you. She's never been told that before.
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Oh, I'm sure that if you ran.
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Into any Levin Ross Katz might have told me that. But other than that, I.
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Listen, that's par for the course with Evan, right? Of course it is. But in case you guys did not see the title of this episode, Sarah Michelle Geller is on Los Angeles.
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Sarah Michelle Tan. I changed my name now.
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Oh, my God. We were just telling Sarah that Sarah Tan is named after Sarah Jessica Parker, but if she born had been born later, she'd be Sarah Michelle.
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Definitely Sarah Michelle.
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I get called Sarah Jessica all the time, so it's totally fine. All the time.
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I mean, because it's the three names. It's the three, by the way.
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Totally fine. If you would like to call me Sarah Jessica, I will always respond.
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I know. I was like, thank God Sarah Jessica turned out to be such an icon, because what if she wasn't? Then I'd have to change my middle name.
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Yeah, fair. Yeah, totally fair. We are thrilled to have you. Obviously. We just, like, are beaming if you're watching this. We're just grinning like idiots, like, yeah, she's here. Okay, Sarah, before we get into the meat of this interview, we want to ask you what's on your face. We ask everybody this, but it kind of gives us context.
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Like, what you like, should we do mask? So then I'm going to peel it off. Let's see what's on my face. So my secret before I start anything is actually I. I always believe that what we use should be attainable. Right. I never want to be that person that has, like, stuff that people are like, wait, what? One of my big secrets is my Olay regenerist microsculpting cream Triple peptide. By the way, it really is magic in a jar. It's the idea of having Dramatic results without drastic measures. And I always say this, like my mom used olay, right? And I remember there was like this pink jar that like I wasn't allowed to touch. I like to think of myself as like a jar of olay in the sense of like, it works, it's great, people love it. But then like I'm always wanting to improve and then they constantly like, you know, re innovate and then it becomes cooler and like now it's got triple peptides and in seven days you look magical. And so that is like my big secret weapon that people are always like, really? And I was like, yeah, that's how I start my day. That's how I end my day.
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Oh, most of those days, AM and pm.
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Yes, AM and pm. You're devoted. Or by the way, sometimes midday.
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Yeah, popping in.
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I mean, as a born and raised New Yorker, let me tell you something. I wash my face and start again many times a day often. So that is, that's a big one.
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Why is that a New Yorker thing?
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I always feel like when you live in a big city, my skin feels dirty when I come home. And so I'm like, I love to like wash my face. In fact, even when I'm working, when I'm on a show or movie, I wash my face at lunch. I scare makeup artists and actually I scare directors because they feel like, how much extra time is that going to take? And I'm like, honestly, less than constantly reapplying and better for your skin. Like so I like to wash it right before I break for lunch. Let my sit put a little, you know, put the creams back on it and then put the makeup back on. That's my other secret.
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I think about New York and I think about how they have better water than we do in Los Angeles.
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So it's like less drying.
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Yeah, our water.
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Right.
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But you know, all the taxi, cab and car Johnson that you get. Yeah, that's what evens out. No, no, but you get better pizza, better bagels, but dirtier skin.
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True, totally.
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We are getting better bagels here in LA though. I think we're like, we're trying to step up our game. But I'm not gonna say that to a New Yorker.
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No, no, no, no. I actually, I actually agree with you. I like pop, that's mine. But you know, it's also LA where people don't eat carbs. So it's like, it's sort of a toss up.
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Totally.
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Okay, what else is on my face? Oh, you know what? I just Discovered Victoria Beckham, beauty. Like, this is a new for me. I like a natural face. Like, I don't look good with, like, a heavy beat sometimes. Like, I see, you know, on Instagram these, like, crazy things, and I just. I. I look. It's not good. It's not cute, but she makes the best, like, combo for, like, a natural lip. And I know I'm late to this, but I just discovered it.
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No, everything in her line is superb.
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It really is. You can tell that it's created with women in mind who wear makeup but don't want to wear a ton of it and, like, want to see your face. It's. I have to say, I'm very, very impressed.
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You need to try her foundation drops.
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Okay.
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She just launched these foundation drops viral. I mean, everyone's obsessed with them. They are expensive as hell. They're, like, over a hundred dollars.
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But people are like, it's such a good investment.
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I love it.
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I love the way my skin looks. I love how it.
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Yeah, that and Charlotte Tilbury makeup, those are my two that are, like, really made for women 100%. And for all different skin colors, all different face shapes, like, really have it, I think, very down.
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I agree.
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Not on my face. My one big splurge. But I feel like this is a good splurge because you use so little of it is perfume and perfume hairspray. And I don't mean, like hairspray. I mean, like, spray that you put in your hair.
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Totally. Fragrance mist.
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It took me. Oh, that's what it's called.
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It's like a hair fragrance mist.
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No, I like that.
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That sounds so fancy. I took me years to find my scent because, like, I don't like things that are overpowering and too strong and, like, I never had. I discovered Parfum de Marley and which one?
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Delina.
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Delina.
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Exclusif.
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Ooh.
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And I love the hair. The. The fragrance in the hair, too. And that is, like, my one big splurge. But I feel like that's the one where you use so little of it, it lasts you years. Right? That's. That's, like a big one.
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I love that, you know, so much because oftentimes, like, if we have celebrities on and they don't have their own brand, they're. It's kind of like pulling teeth to.
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Be like, what do you use? You're a beauty.
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Girl.
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Girl, Right?
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But you're probably learning so much from her.
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It's so crazy to me. Like, I remember at 16, I was on this TV show, and they took me for my first facial and like, nobody I knew had facials and it was like this old lady brand. Like, I mean, but whatever it was, I. Kids ask for facials at like 6. I remember, I think it was like her 11th birthday. She wanted. She called it caviar cocktails and facial party. She wanted. She wanted to have caviar. Fancy mocktails. And like all her friends get facials.
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Wow.
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What am I doing wrong? No, but yes, I do learn a lot from her.
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What is a product that she loves that maybe she taught you or you learned about?
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Oh, goodness, there's so many. My eyebrows are all over the place. I learned about refi eyebrow. Like, I learned that from her.
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And you said it right, Sarah. And I still say it wrong. We're like refy, refy.
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There's so many I say wrong. So don't worry. I'm also. I just discovered all the red light for the hair, so I just got that higher dose hat for like breakage and because my hair goes through a lot. Very excited. I've already seen a difference.
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Really?
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Like, the top of my hair is so much thicker and stronger than the bottom of my hair.
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Oh, and how, how often are you using it?
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Well, according to the directions, you're supposed to use it in the beginning every day for like five weeks. And then after that, just a couple times a week. But it's 10 minutes.
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Yeah.
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So like when I brush my teeth in the morning, I just.
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Right.
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And it's on your head, so it's like you could be doing it on the.
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And by the way, it looks like a baseball hat. Like, it doesn't look right. That's my new discovery.
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And you can wear it around. I love it.
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Yeah.
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Such a true beauty.
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I know.
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I'm like, so happy.
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I'm made for this show. I can talk about this for a long time. This is amazing. I can talk about this stuff all day long.
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So fun. Okay, so obviously you've been working in front of the camera for decades, even though you look like you're not a day over here.
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Bless you.
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How has your relationship with beauty changed ever since, you know, you were a child star getting your first facial to.
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Today, you know, it's hard. And I've really been thinking about this a lot lately, which is I am constantly compared to my younger self because it's so easy to pull up a picture from my 20s or my 30s and, you know, how has she changed? And in some ways it, I think puts a little bit of extra added pressure. And in Other ways. It also reminds me I don't want to be that person anymore. Like, I like who I am now, and. And that's okay. And, you know, every so often you'll see that, like, comment like, oh, she got old. And it's like, yes, that's what happens.
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Right.
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I am not 18 anymore. So, you know, I. I do. I am like, all those cliches, like, less is more. I probably wore three times the makeup when I was in my 20s than I wear now. But I do. I look at my daughter sometimes with that skin. And that's the one thing, like, skin when you're a teenager, it's like that gorgeous, glowing, and like, no matter what, I can't replicate that.
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Yes.
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It is wasted on the youth. They have no idea.
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Yeah. They're like, we'll fix it in post, essentially. Like, they're like, we'll worry about whatever happens in the tanning beds later. Like, that was me.
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Oh, yeah. I used a tanning bed in those days.
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Yeah.
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Thankfully, all the lasers exist now to reverse that.
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Yes. Yes.
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I'm actually really glad that you brought up the comparison to being younger, because we see all the commentary online where people are seeing images of someone from their, you know, 90s sitcom, and then they're going, oh, what happened to them? Like, they got too much work done. And it's like, no, they aged. They aged. How are you embracing the aging conversation as an actress who is a working actress and a beloved actress.
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Thank you. It's definitely hard, you know, and I'm seeing girls younger and younger get plastic surgery and facelifts and. And injectables, and I'm always like, really? And then it starts to go, am I supposed to do that? But I'm also an actor, and I have to use my face. So if I had a facelift, I would look, I think, ridiculous. I think, you know, I. Or, you know, injectables, all of that. Or, like, crazy injectables. I'm not. I mean, look, I get Botox. I'm not going to. You know, I'm not going to lie and say there's no Botox in my face, but I can still move my face. Yeah. Right. So it's definitely a walk. There are times where I'm like, should I be doing this? But then I'm like, but that's not who I am. And maybe it does work for some people, and it's no judgment. But I also think that filters have messed with us a lot, because I think sometimes it's hard to Understand what we really look like because everything is so filtered. And then on top of it, like, you might have a filter you like, but maybe that filter is not good for me. And so then it's. You sort of have this odd vision of what you look like uncanny valley.
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In a way, totally.
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Where you're like, is that what I'm. Why don't I look like that when I look in the mirror anymore?
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Right, Right. Yeah.
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That's so crazy. So when you are speaking to your daughter or your children, like, about their relationship to how they see themselves, especially now in this culture of just like you said, filters, like perfect skin, everyone's like, AI, whatever. How do you communicate with them? You know, how to value their skin, the way that they look right now, or, you know, not put so much value on the way that they look.
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I think a lot of conversations, I think you have to have open conversations. I think there's so much that goes into looking great. We talk a lot about eating right. Eating is really important in our house. We always sit down for family meals. We all cook together. We grow vegetables together. We. We have those conversations. Exercise, really important in our house. I. I'm a gym rat. I love it. I live off those endorphins. My husband too. And my kids love it. Now, like, my daughter goes to the gym with me. She loves it. We take classes together. And so I try to make it a360, like a holistic conversation and, you know, understanding that, yes, when mom works, she gets very glammed up and that's fun. But it's also fun to put my hair in a ponytail and wear my sweats and go to the farmer's market. And so it just sort of juxtaposition the two.
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You may recall that we had Tatcha's founder, Vicki Sai on the show a little bit earlier this year for the second time. And I'm still thinking about how she builds rituals of daily self love. Little pauses that restore calm and joy.
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I gotta say, when you said moi, you said plump.
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You said glow.
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There was someone that came to mind. There was someone that came to mind. And I'll let y' all figure out who that is. It literally cocoons my skin in a comforting replenishing feeling. And the glow lasts, like even under makeup.
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Okay, we're gonna do a 180. We want to talk about your career.
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Okay.
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Because it is iconic and you've really cemented yourself in cinema. People know you for so many things. Catherine and Cruel Intentions. That's how I know.
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That's my favorite.
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That's how I know you. I was like, this is a bad. And I love it. Helen. And I know what you did last summer. Daphne and Scooby Doo, which I have to say, I freaking love Scooby Doo.
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That wardrobe too is pretty spectacular.
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It was amazing. So good bomb. Like, I still listen to some of those songs. I'm not kidding.
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I don't know if I have to listen to it. I don't know if I could like, offhand know the soundtrack.
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It is incredible.
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Truly.
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I'm a bit of a dork in that way, but I love it. And then of course, Buffy Summers and Sarah and I were talking about, like, okay, what. What do we even ask her about this? And what was it like being the it girl of that moment? Like, we were watching you and thinking, we want to be her. Was it as fabulous as it may have sounded?
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You know, I think, fortunately, the time that I came up, because there wasn't social media and there wasn't all of this, you know, it was a. It was my job, and I was able to focus a lot more on it. And so I don't think the outside noise. I don't think I understood it, and I think it would. I think about these young girls today and how much more pressure is on them because of it. Because there's such a distinction between a working actor and a celebrity now. Like, I was able to just do a cool job and be really lucky to do it. And I think, for me, the most fortunate part as an actor, you know, you hope in your life, maybe you get one role that people remember you for that stands the test of time, that it still resonates with people years later. And I'm so fortunate that I have so many of them. Like, that's just. That's. Pinch me.
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Totally, totally.
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Sorry, can I ask this?
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I've been talking a lot. I've been talking a lot lately.
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No, no, no. Sarah really wants to ask this question.
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So I'm gonna let her.
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Oh, I'm ready.
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Because you are obviously so kind and sweet in person, in real life, but you played a lot of mean girls, like in Swan's Crossing, Catherine and Cruel Intentions, like the ultimate villain mean girl. You were really good at being a bully.
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Well, you know, what's funny was. So when I came up, right? So Swan's Crossing. I love that you reference it. We gotta bring that back. My. My manager of 900 years, we always talk about, like, we gotta bring that back. Well, I'm like, I went from Swans Crossing to All My Children, right? So always playing these, like, characters. And then I was cast as Cordelia, originally on Buffy. And they couldn't find a Buffy. And I was like, well, could I audition? And everyone's like, well, we don't see you as that. And I was like, well, let me try, right? So after 97 auditions and all this, you know, process, I become Buffy. And then I read the script for Cruel Intentions, and I'm desperate to be a part of it. And everyone's like, but you're Annette. And I was like, no, no, I want to be Catherine. They're like, well, that's not what you do. And I'm like, hello, has anyone seen my past work? Like, that was all I did. And there was this discussion at the time of, like, you know, would it change the perception of me? Would it? And I was like, I don't care. Like, that's the role I want to do. But it is funny how people see you, I think, a lot, as your last role.
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Right, right. I mean, I gotta say, and excuse my French. You make an amazing bitch. You do.
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Thank you. Incredible. I think, like, it always takes, like, I always talk about Rhys and Legally Blonde, like, to play a character that's not that Elle woods is dumb, because she's certainly not, but that's how she presents in the beginning. You need a really smart person to do that. Or I was talking about, like, Amanda Seyfried in Mean Girls, like, in the hands of someone else. I don't know if that role would be as iconic and amazing, but because she is so smart and such a great actor, like, it works. And so I think sometimes you need those people to play those roles.
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Totally. Okay, what was the role that got away?
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Oh, you just stopped me.
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Or is there one that, like, you wish that you could have gotten to play?
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I mean, I joke with Samara weaving in, Ready or Not, that, like, oh, I wish. I wish I was too old for Ready or Not, like, young, you know, fresh bride. But that role, when she comes out in the first one with the gun in the wedding dress, like, hello. That, for me, is definitely what you really have me thinking. Now I'm, like, trying to think of. Okay, I may have to call in at another time. Yeah, I haven't been.
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I don't.
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I haven't been asked that in a long time. I got to think about that.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Phone a friend and then let us know.
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We'll later date.
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We love it. Okay. What were some of your go to products in the 90s and 2000?
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Oh, I have such. Oh, my God, do I have answers for this. This is the question I've been waiting for.
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Okay, perfect.
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So let's talk early Buffy. Let's talk Folio Mac lipstick. Okay. For those of you that remember, it made your lips basically blue like a corpse. But I had to have my MacFolio. Can we discuss Chanel vamp nail polish?
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Yes.
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Or my must have been junior high school class picture where I probably used an entire bottle of Aussie sprunch spray to make my hair stand on its end.
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Yes, yes.
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I have a few of those.
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Also.
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I feel like you at that time, like, late 90s, early 2000s, people were playing a lot with their hair. Like the clips with the head hair.
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Trina Turk. Trina Turk hair clips. The very first season of Buffy, I had this great idea, really dumb idea, Sarah, that every episode I would wear a different hard candy nail polish. Because if you remember, hard candy. And it was great until you realize that you jump around in episodes and you have to do reshoots. And I was constantly taking off polish, putting on polish. No muss.
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Is there a look, like a red carpet look or something that you. That's near and dear to your heart? That's like a favorite look of that era?
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That era. Now I have a recent one. I loved everything about my look at the new. I know what you did premiere that. I saw that Oscar de la Renta. I saw it in sketches, this idea of this 3D printed butterflies. And I called Fernando and I was like, I don't know what you're doing with that dress. I need you to save it for me. And I need you to save it for a year. And he was like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, freddie's in this movie. I'm gonna go to the premiere. It's a year from now. Like, it's when they were filming, and I'm like, and I want this dress. And he said, okay. And so they basically custom did the 3D printing and the dress for my measurements, which I don't know what you're going to do with it. I'm happy to take it back, Fernando. And then the hair, like, the mermaid hair, like, everything. The orange shoes, terrace went in. My stylist of 100 years, we've been together for a very long time, and I just. Everything, the jewelry, everything about that looked to me amazing.
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What do you think? People, like, the general public doesn't understand about what it takes to get ready for a red carpet. Like, we see the finished product and we're like, she looks amazing. Or alternatively, people are judging, oh, this could have been better. This could have been changed. Lose this.
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There is so much that goes into it. You know, first of all, what's available, who wants to lend to you, who wants to make for you what the season is? And then it's, you know, it's. It's fittings and fittings, and it's. It really is such a process. And there are times where it's like, you really love something and it just doesn't hit that day. Or for me, what's really hard is I've always seen girls who are so great on red carpets. Right. Who just. I. Still, to this day, I freeze. I get this, like, everyone looking at you, the flashes. Like, I'm not great. And I see some people, and they just. They can vamp, and. And it's just. It's not. It's not me. It's. I guess there's different skill sets, right? And that's just one skill set that I don't have.
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C
I mean, it's like when they're yelling your name, and it's like blinding lights. Like, I don't know how you do.
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A
It, but there are people that just can turn it on. And I've seen them do a car. Like, I will run down a carpet. Like, most times they'll, like, you have to go back. Like, I'll run down it as fast as I can, and then I'll be mad at myself. Like, you have this great outfit on. Why can't you work? You know? And I'll. I'll try to. It's just not my. We all have skill sets. That one's not mine.
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B
Yeah. Sometimes we can be perceived on a set with a bunch of people around us and, like, turn into the character. Then you get on a red carpet, and you're like, what am I?
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A
Yeah.
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B
It's just, what do I do?
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A
That was not my forte.
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B
Well, I have to beg to disagree, because I know you always look fabulous.
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A
Yeah. So I do love it. Although Tara would tell you that I also don't like trying on clothing, so there's also this thing of, like, it's a. It's a weird process. Like, I love looking at all the clothing. I don't like putting it on.
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C
Oh, my gosh. Okay. What do you wish younger women knew about beauty and aging? That you only learn by living.
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A
It's just that there's a confidence that you get later that you just. There's no way to replicate it for a younger person, because it just comes with living. And, you know, it gets better.
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C
Yeah.
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A
I mean, I constantly tell my poor teenage daughter that, because teenage years are the worst. But then, like, I also wouldn't want to be in my 20s again, right?
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B
No. My 20s. Absolutely not. I think about it. I'd rather go back to high school than my 20s.
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C
Yeah.
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A
I don't know about high school. I don't know I want to be that either. But I think they do know some things. Like, I didn't know about skincare the way they do and the way that they take care of themselves and that they're acknowledging that you know, skin is our biggest organ.
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C
Right.
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A
And you really do have to take care of it in a way that I don't think any of us knew. Hello. Tanning beds.
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B
Yes.
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A
You know, from how much water you drink and eating better, all of those things.
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B
Totally.
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A
I see the difference.
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B
Yeah. 360 approach.
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C
Do you think it is more difficult to be a teen star now with social media or back then when you were out.
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A
Question Now, I mean, on every level. First of all, I had a private life.
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C
Right.
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A
You don't have that now. Secondly, I see the pressure on these young kids that a whole other part of their job is collecting content. And when you're working, like, I just want to focus on my work. But there I see what they. The pressure they put in these young kids. You know, on the first day, it's like someone from a marketing department will come over with five extra disposable cameras and tell them they need this. And it's like they just want to be able to do their work. But there's this expectation of, you know, even just on. On the new movie, Sam Samara Weaving and I were talking about, like, doing this post, and we're like, catherine, you do it. You're the young one. You're like, we just. You do it. We'll just. We'll just repost it. You know, even. We do. We're guilty of it.
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C
Yeah, totally.
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B
Okay.
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A
Sorry, Cat.
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B
We're putting Cat to work.
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A
All right.
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B
We do want to talk about Buffy. Because you turned down revisiting Buffy many, many, many years. And we were just wondering, what about this concept and team finally made you say yes? And can you share any teasers of what we can expect?
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A
I can share nothing. You know, I learned a hard lesson, which is never say never. Because I always said never. And I will walk that back, and I will acknowledge that I said never. I think it was a combination of things. It was timing. It was the person that came to me, you know, when Chloe Zhao came to me and had not just the idea, but this passion that was burning inside of her. And I also realized at this time, like, more than ever, the world and the audiences kind of need that heroine. But it was just. It was the world that Chloe created in that meeting for me and the passion that she had behind it. And it still took me four years to say yes. Chloe can tell you it was a lot of lunches and dinners and phone conversations and me going, yes. And then going, nope, can't do it. And I still won't do it unless I feel that every I is dotted and T is crossed and that I know that this is the right iteration to put out there.
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B
Is there a reason why you're so hesitant? Is it. Is it the fear of it not living up to what it once was?
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A
It's never gonna live up to that. I. I've already accepted that. And there's going to be people that love it, and there's gonna be people that go, why would you do it? And I. But I can't. I can't make work for those people. I have to make work for the people that are the true fans. Like, I remember when we were on Buffy all those years ago, and Buffy never got nominated for awards, and every year, the creators, the actors, they were so frustrated. And I had said, look, as someone who has won an Emmy, I can tell you right now, it doesn't make you feel any better, doesn't make your work any better. We win every award from the fans, from the people you make it for, and that's why you do it. And so I always look at work that way. Like, I make work for the real fans, the people that are there that just want to hate comment. Like, they're gonna hate comment anyway, and they're gonna hate comment on everything anyway, so you can't. I try really hard. Freddie taught me something. If you read the good reviews, you have to give equal meaning and importance to the bad reviews. And so I take the route of I just don't read them. Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I would rather the person on the street that comes up to me and says, oh, my God, I love this, or, you know, this didn't work, because they're coming from a place, a really good place, and they're the fans. So that's why I make the work and why I do what I do.
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C
Do you have people coming up to you and say, hey, I have feedback?
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A
Oh, for sure.
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C
Oh, my God.
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B
Oh, my God, I cannot believe that.
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A
But as long as it's constructive and comes from a place of love, like, I can take it. You know, I'm. I get it. Not everything's for everyone. I know that.
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B
Okay, we're coming to the end of this episode, so we want to get through our lightning round really quickly.
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C
Yay.
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B
We have just a few questions, a few more questions to ask you, Sarah. Okay, what order is correct? Hair, makeup, clothes.
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A
Oh, for me?
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C
For you, personally?
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A
Oh, goodness. I. I usually go. Hair, makeup, wardrobe.
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B
Ooh.
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A
Okay.
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B
Yeah, perfect.
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A
Mainly because I just have to dry my hair.
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B
Yeah.
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A
No.
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C
Okay. Okay, great. Okay. Is There a project that Freddy's been a part of that you wish you were in or vice versa?
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A
Oh, that's a good question. Has there been a project that he's been. I mean, honestly, the answer is no. But not for the reason you think it's no, because we do everything as a family. And so I feel like a part of any project that he's on. And I hope he would say the same because I look for feedback, he looks for feedback. So we sort of do it as a team.
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B
Love.
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C
So sweet.
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B
Okay, what's a 90s trend you love and are happy to see coming back?
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A
I don't know about that, but I can tell you the ones that I'm not happy about.
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B
Please.
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A
First of all, the eyebrows never come back. My sperm eyebrows never need to come back. I also don't get the choker thing. And I know I did it in the 90s, but it just makes it hides your neck. Like we all look better without a choker.
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B
Totally.
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A
But I love like the fashion of it. I love the, like the T shirt and the dress and sort of that whole thing. I'm here for it.
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C
Okay, what is the best piece of advice for a long lasting relationship like yours and Freddie's?
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A
Don't ask anyone else for advice. Yeah, that's the truth. I mean, live your truth. And everyone's life is different and everyone's experience is different and you know, it's. And I see the same thing for work relationships, for friendships is you have to put work into it. You know, we live in a society now that's very disposable. When I was a kid, if your TV broke, you took your TV, you carried it 10 blocks to the shop and you got it fixed. Now if your TV breaks, you just, you get a new one. And I think so much of there's a, this, this immediacy need that we have. And so I think for anything that's worth it, you have to put the work into it.
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B
Amazing. Okay, last one. F. Mary. Kill. Angel. Spike. Riley.
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A
No, well, I actually. Well, the person you marry is Riley, right? Because like, that's like the, that's if you want to have like a serious relationship.
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C
Okay.
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A
And then we all know I'm an angel girl. So I'm gonna say, you know, can you say, yeah, okay, angel. But here's the thing. This is why I'm saying you don't kill Spike. He's dead. I can't kill him. So it's perfect because I' really killing him.
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C
Right Play.
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A
Right. Like it's just.
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B
Yes, you're. That is correct.
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A
So it's kind of a cheat answer.
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B
Yes.
- [30:03]
A
So really, you're kind of both of them. Sorry. I love that you want to last you mar.
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B
I feel like that was the right.
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A
Yes.
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B
That was what I was thinking.
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C
That was the only right answer there.
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B
Amazing. Sarah, thank you for coming on, guys. You're absolutely fabulous.
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C
Oh, thank you.
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B
We can't wait to see you in theaters. What, January change?
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A
No.
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B
When is it?
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A
I. Well, it was April. It might be March.
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B
Oh, okay.
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C
Spring. March.
- [30:29]
A
Spring. Spring. That's the answer. That's the correct answer. They like us to say spring.
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B
Spring. There we go. Awesome. Thank you.
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A
Thank you.
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C
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B
Hey, it's Raj and Noah.
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C
And we're back with a new season of Am I Doing It Wrong? The show that explores the all too human anxieties we have about trying to.
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A
Get our lives right. Because we're still doing a lot of stuff wrong.
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C
But who isn't?
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A
That's why each week we're talking about the topics that we could all use.
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C
A little helping hit with. Whether it's making new friends as an adult, managing our emotions, or even dreaming.
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B
We'Ll be talking to experts in their.
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A
Fields who are definitely things right, so the rest of us can be a bit wiser and a lot better equipped to handle whatever life throws at us.
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C
Subscribe now and listen to new episodes of Am I Doing It Wrong? Dropping every Thursday starting January 1st, wherever.
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A
You get your podcasts. And for the first time ever, we're going to have full video episodes on YouTube. Because as long as there are things to get wrong, we're going to be right here to help you do them better. Love y'.
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C
All.