The Jamison Family // 552

Summary

Going West: True Crime

Episode 552: The Jamison Family

Release Date: November 7, 2025
Hosts: Daphne Woolsoncroft & Heath Merryman

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Episode Overview

This episode unpacks the haunting and unsolved 2009 disappearance and deaths of the Jamison family—Cherilyn, Bobby, and their six-year-old daughter, Madison—from rural Oklahoma. The story is rich with eerie details: accusations of cults, possible drug involvement, mental health struggles, alleged paranormal activity, and family drama. Four years after vanishing, the Jamisons’ remains were found under mysterious circumstances—deepening the puzzle rather than providing answers. Daphne and Heath guide listeners through the tangled web of evidence, rumors, theories, and oddities surrounding one of America’s most confounding unsolved cases.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Jamison Family Background (03:52–08:34)

• Cherilyn: Born 1968, Eufaula, Oklahoma; proud of Native heritage; known for an interest in spiritual and paranormal topics; had a prior marriage and son, Colton.
• Bobby: Born 1965; lifelong resident of Eufaula; suffered chronic pain from a severe accident in 2003 (received a significant settlement).
• Madison: Born 2003, described as bright and loved by family.
• Both parents struggled with health: Bobby (chronic pain, pain medications) and Cherilyn (bipolar disorder, sometimes stopped medication, resulting in erratic behavior).

Mental Health, Behavior, and Strained Relationships (08:34–18:00)

• Sherilyn’s increasingly erratic actions included claims of witchcraft, spray-painting messages about her deceased cats, and suspicious relations with neighbors.
• The Jamisons reportedly believed their house was haunted; both saw and heard “spirits," sought help from their pastor, and their daughter Madison claimed to communicate with "Emily," a possible spirit or imaginary friend (12:55).
• Family was isolated and private, perhaps using eccentric behavior to keep neighbors at a distance.

Financial & Personal Troubles (15:20–18:00)

• Both parents were unable to work, living on disability.
• They briefly took in a roommate, Kenneth Bellows, who turned out to be a white supremacist with criminal history. Sherilyn pulled a gun on him after feeling threatened (16:39).
• Cherilyn struggled with a custody dispute over Colton and suffered a suicide attempt a month before vanishing.

Daphne: “There was just a lot going on in her head and in her world at this time.” (17:39)

Sudden Interest in Off-Grid Living (18:00–22:15)

• The family abruptly pulled Madison from school to homeschool and expressed desire to “get off the grid” in the wilderness of Latimer County, Oklahoma.
• Some speculate they were fleeing trouble; others point to mental health or escapism.

The Disappearance (22:15–26:09)

• Last seen October 8, 2009, traveling to look at land in the remote Sans Bois Mountains.
• On October 16, their locked truck was found abandoned, containing wallets, IDs, cell phones, cash, coats, and their malnourished dog, Maisie.
• No signs of struggle or mechanical failure; truck appeared hastily abandoned.

Heath: “It just kind of looked like they had been plucked from thin air. There were no signs of a struggle whatsoever here.” (25:14)

Theories & Evidence (26:09–34:16)

• $32,000 in cash found under the truck driver's seat—possibly insurance money, intended for land down payment, or linked (some speculated) to drugs. No physical evidence of drug involvement found at home or in truck.
• An 11-page letter from Sherilyn to Bobby expressing resentment and desire for divorce was found.
• Sherilyn’s .22 pistol, usually always with her, was missing and never recovered.

Daphne: “I think the gun is a big key here.” (66:43)

Home Surveillance Footage (52:20–59:00)

• Law enforcement reviewed footage from multiple cameras at the Jamisons’ home (54:45–58:45).
• Both adults appear to load and unload the truck in a “trance-like” or “zoned-out” state, changing clothes, not interacting. A sheriff and forensic psychologist suspected drugs, though there’s no physical evidence.
• Only brief snippets of this footage have ever been released publicly—leaving debate over whether their behavior was truly unusual.

Daphne: “I’ve looked at the footage. I don’t find it frickin’ weird in the slightest. It’s kind of like the picture of Madison that I’m like, I don’t really see what other people are seeing.” (56:55)

Cell Phone Data & Timeline (43:38–49:36)

• Location data shows the family trekked up a hill near a lookout after leaving their truck (43:38).
• Madison's footprints (hers alone) were found in mud along this path.
• The last known family photo—a casual, possibly candid shot of Madison—was taken there.
• One month after the disappearance, Bobby’s voicemail was accessed remotely, though who did this is unknown (44:42).

Search & Discovery (49:36–60:37)

• Massive searches by land, water, and air yielded no sign. Local terrain and weather inhibited efforts.
• Rumors of cults, drugs, and even satanic involvement swirled.
• On November 16, 2013—over four years later—the remains of all three family members were found face-down in a row, just 2.7 miles from the abandoned truck. Severe decomposition and animal activity left no clear cause or manner of death, though one skull had a hole possibly from a gunshot.

Main Theories & Suspects (60:48–69:21)

• Roommate (Kenneth Bellows): Questioned, provided an alibi.
• Murder-suicide: Considered but largely discounted after the gun was never found on scene.
• Bobby’s Father (Bob Jameson): Had a violent and criminal history; family had taken out protective orders alleging threats, possible links to Mexican mafia. Bob died two months after the Jamisons disappeared.
• Cult or Paranormal Activity: Some family and friends speculated about cult involvement, but there is no concrete evidence. An anonymous tipster claimed Sherilyn was on a “cult hit list.”
• Stranger Encounter: Some believe the family came across the wrong person in the mountains.
• Other: Drug deal gone wrong, though lack of physical evidence makes this unlikely.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Daphne (About the case's effect on her):

  “This one has stayed with me for a long time, so I’m so glad we get to dive into it with all of you today.” (02:00)

• Sheriff Israel Beaucham on the case:

  “I think they were forced to stop and got out of the truck to meet with someone they recognized. And I think that they either left willingly or... or by force.” (41:42)

• Connie (Sherilyn’s mother) on dangers of the area:

  “Everyone around here knows that there’s lots of evil people up in those mountains. It’s where outlaws like Jesse James used to hide out. It’s so isolated. I’m scared to go up there.” (49:36)

• Daphne (on mysteries and rumors):

  “Rumors about the disappearance... began to overtake the facts.” (52:20)

• Heath (on the unsolved mystery):

  “With this family, everything seems possible.” (69:24)

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Timeline of Important Segments (MM:SS)

• Episode Theme/Intro: 02:00–03:52
• Family Background & Personal History: 03:52–08:34
• Mental Health, Spirituality & Social Issues: 08:34–18:00
• Off-Grid Plans & Move: 18:00–22:15
• Disappearance & Discovery of Truck: 22:15–26:09
• Findings in Vehicle, Theories Begin: 26:09–34:16
• Drugs, Finances, and Family Tension: 34:16–43:38
• Cell Phones, Evidence, Last Photo: 43:38–49:36
• Rumors, Search Efforts, Surveillance Footage: 49:36–59:00
• Discovery of Remains & Forensics: 59:00–60:37
• Suspects and Main Theories: 60:48–69:21
• Hosts’ Reflections & Case Summary: 72:05–72:57

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Host Reflections

• Daphne: Strongly suspects Bobby’s father, Bob, may have been involved, but notes all prevailing theories feel like a stretch due to lack of direct evidence. Dismisses murder-suicide given lack of weapon at scene. Finds the case deeply confounding and hard to move on from.
• Heath: Also dismisses cult/paranormal theories. Notes inconsistencies (missing gun, Bobby’s physical limitations, lack of struggle or drug evidence) make all theories hard to fully embrace.

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Conclusion

The Jamison family case remains one of America’s most perplexing unsolved mysteries. Every piece of evidence raises further questions; every theory has serious gaps. The episode leaves listeners with a sense of unresolved unease—a perfect encapsulation of the enduring enigma surrounding the Jamison family’s fate.

If you have any information about the case, contact the Latimer Police Department at 918-465-2161.

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For Further Exploration

• Hosts recommend checking out the episode’s accompanying photos and surveillance footage on their social media:
  Instagram: @goingwestpodcast
  Facebook: Going West Podcast Discussion Group

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“None of it makes any sense.”
— Daphne (72:05)

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[Heath]

What is going on? True crime fans, I'm your host he.

[Daphne]

And I'm your host Daphne and you're.

[Heath]

Listening to Going West.

[Daphne]

Hello everybody. Thank you for tuning in today. The story that we have for you guys is kind of one of my pet cases. I just find it so confounding. This one has stayed with me for a long time, so I'm so glad we get to dive into it with all of you today.

[Heath]

Yeah, and I'm sure that there will be a lot of discussion afterwards, so please make sure that you go follow us on our socials. We are on Instagram @goingwest podcast. We're also on Facebook. We have a discussion group where we can talk about cases like today's.

[Daphne]

Yes, definitely want to hear what you guys think of this one. But before we dive in, I want to remind you guys that we have some new bonus episodes that we came out within the last couple weeks over on patreon.com goingwest podcast and also on Apple subscriptions. They're kind of. I mean, not really geared towards Halloween. One of them happened on Halloween, and the other one is like a collection of spooky listener tales that Heath and I love doing. But I also feel like November is a good, like, post Halloween. Like, we watched so many horror movies in October specifically, and yesterday I was like, kind of want to watch another one, you know, like, we're in November. We're still in that spooky time. So give them a listen.

[Heath]

I guess so. I mean, I'm ready for turkey. I'm ready for turkey, baby. Let's go. Mashed potatoes, turkey.

[Daphne]

Let's put on Home Alone too.

[Heath]

Daphne's famous stuffing.

[Daphne]

Oh, yeah, my stuffing is really good. I was listening to True Crime Garage's Halloween special this morning, and I was like, I'm still. I'm still like, kind of. I'm like half in, half out. Right?

[Heath]

You feel like you're still kind of in it.

[Daphne]

Yeah, maybe some of you get it, but either way, check them out. Thank you guys for tuning in. And without further ado.

[Heath]

All right, guys, this is episode 552 of going west. So let's get into it.

[Daphne]

SA in October of 2009, a family of three set out for the Oklahoma mountains in search of a fresh start. Days later, their pickup truck was found abandoned on a remote dirt road containing their wallets, IDs, cell phones, and even their dog. But the family was nowhere to be found. Theories swirled of cult, paranormal activity and marital troubles, all bolstered by unsettling recordings from the family's own home. Security cameras. And a shocking discovery four years later raised more questions than it did answers. This is the story of Cherilyn, Bobby and Madison. The disappearance of the Jamison family. Sherilyn Jameson was born on November 5, 1968, in Eufaula, Oklahoma, which is a small town in southeastern Oklahoma situated alongside Eufaula Lake and home to fewer than 3,3000 residents. And that is where Sherilyn spent her entire life. She was of native descent and was very proud of her ancestry and her family's history right there in her town. Sherilyn was married in her 20s, which is a union that resulted in a son named Colton. But when that relationship didn't work out, they split up and jointly raised Colton in their respective homes. Then, during the summer of 2002, Sherilyn met Bobby Jameson and was instantly smitten by him. And that feeling was mutual. So Bobby Jameson was born on August 4, 1965 to Starlet and Bob Jameson, and also spent his whole life in Eufaula. So they grew up in this small town together, with Bobby obviously three years older than Sherilyn. On August 1, 2003, they welcomed their daughter Madison. Stormy Star Jamison, Bobby's mom, Starlet. Lots of stars. Lots of stars going on here.

[Heath]

Yeah, a lot.

[Daphne]

But that Stormy and Stormy star. Starlet. But Bobby's mom, Starlet called her granddaughter her best friend and the greatest gift their family had ever been given. In July of 2004, so 11 months after the birth of their daughter, Sherilyn and Bobby tied the knot. That is when Sherilyn became Sherilyn Jameson. And probably the reason that they hadn't gotten married before is because they were navigating kind of like a few rough years both before and after their daughter was born in 2003. So the same year Madison entered their lives, Bobby was sandwiched between two cars in a bad accident, which rendered him unable to work, putting a pretty big strain on both their relationship and their finances. His chronic pain was a major stressor for him and very little helped soothe his ailments, though he was given prescription strength pain medication. And Sherilyn had her own health concerns, having been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, which she, too took medication for. But she would occasionally stop taking her prescriptions, and every time, her erratic and paranoid behavior would, of course, return. According to her friends and family, she did have a darker side that would emerge when she didn't stay on track with her treatment plan. Her mom, Connie Kokotan, even remembered an instance when they had driven to Oklahoma City together, and Sherilyn suddenly forced Connie to get out of the car, and she drove off. So mental health was very much an ongoing struggle for Sherilyn.

[Heath]

Well, according to some, Sherilyn's behavior had grown increasingly erratic in the months before she and her family mysteriously disappeared. Now, Sherilyn was known for being a pretty spiritual person with a flair for the paranormal, but she had been engaging in behavior that some of her neighbors found off putting or even kind of scary. And some believe that her practices in the months preceding her disappearance and may have contributed to this outcome. Sherilyn had apparently been telling her neighbors that she was a witch and was garnering a certain reputation in town for it. And some other issues arose with the neighbors when the Jamisons had recently, to today's story, suffered the loss of their pet cats, and Sherilyn had come to the belief that they had been poisoned by an irritated neighbor. But there was absolutely no evidence to support that being true. Yeah.

[Daphne]

Other than like in the. The Karen Swift case that we just covered a couple weeks ago, where there was like actual evidence of the neighbor poisoning the dogs.

[Heath]

Exactly.

[Daphne]

This is more like, is it happening? Is it not happening?

[Heath]

Yeah, it was more kind of just like accusations thrown out there by Sherilyn because basically her three cats had apparently been getting into the neighbors boats and then began dropping off one by one. She and Colton had even found one of them deceased on their back porch.

[Daphne]

So like, maybe the neighbors are retaliating of like, stop coming onto my boat.

[Heath]

Sure.

[Daphne]

Like again, in Karen's case, where the dogs were crossing the neighbors lawn.

[Heath]

Exactly. But you know, at this point, she really can't prove that this is happening, but she did have an argument with her neighbors about this, about these cats being in the neighbors boats. So Sherilyn took to spray painting a slew of messages on the aluminum siding of the storage container that the Jamisons kept on their property. And these messages said, witches don't like their black cat killed and three cats killed to date by people in this area. And then she also wrote, only God can judge. God loves you. We know who you are. May God bless your soul, as well as gossip is a sin. And then she would also be known to invite her neighbors over for a cup of witch's brew, Whatever that means. I have no idea. The family never tested the cats toxicology reports, so they couldn't be sure that poisoning was to blame here. But Sherilyn's best friend, Nikki Shenold, had a simple explanation for this. She said that Sherilyn and Bobby were somewhat withdrawn and relished maintaining their privacy, especially around their neighborhood. According to Nikki, Sherilyn's idea was to scare her neighbors into leaving her alone, which was a defense mechanism to keep the prying eyes of the community away from them and to maintain her insular family unit. And that maybe blaming the neighbors for the cats deaths was her way of keeping them away.

[Daphne]

Yeah, hard to say. Well, less than a month before they vanished, Sherilyn and Bobby went to their local pastor, Gary Brandon, for guidance, telling him that they were seeing spirits in their home. Sherilyn even went so far as to say that the family's home was being visited by the spirits of deceased children and that their young daughter Madison, was able to communicate with these spirits or spirits.

[Heath]

So we've got. We've got kind of like a poltergeist thing going on here.

[Daphne]

Yeah. And the thing is like they're both saying it so like they're literally both going to their pastor and saying, we need help with these spirits. And our. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So Bobby is sharing his side of things, and he's claiming to have seen a handful of spirits on the roof. And then Sherilyn is saying that they're inside the house. Her friend Nikki later explained, quote, she was interested in witches. We both were. Years before. We bought matching witches Bibles. We put them on our coffee tables as a bit of a joke. That's what the police found. But in all seriousness, that house was haunted. I don't want to sound crazy, but whenever I went there, I felt a horrible presence. I would leave feeling so down and depressed. It's hard to describe.

[Heath]

I mean, that does sound very strange, I will say. I mean, even if your friends are coming over, I guess in the sense, it's like they're both kind of into witchy stuff like that. So is this something that's kind of culminating in their minds, or is there a real kind of presence that they're feeling with inside the house? I don't know.

[Daphne]

I'm a little intrigued, though.

[Heath]

I mean, it is intriguing, right?

[Daphne]

I guess it depends on what you believe, you know? But Bobby even allegedly asked the preacher if there was a bullet that he could purchase to shoot the spirits he believed were haunting the home. But of course, there wasn't one. But his mother, Starlet Jameson, believed that this whole thing was being blown out of proportion. Like the idea that there were real spirits in the house. She thought it was more likely that Madison was speaking to an imaginary friend of sorts of one that she named Emily. Madison named the spirit Emily. And so her grandma, who of course is Bobby's mom, is saying, oh, that's just her imaginary friend. You know, Bob and Sherilyn, they. They kind of flew off the handle with that theory. There's no ghosts.

[Heath]

I mean, yes, but also, you did they did go to their pastor, telling the pastor about this whole thing.

[Daphne]

Yeah, it seems like they were scared. But Starlet actually believed that Madison was using this as an escape from the turmoil that was taking place inside the house at the time, and that her parents believed it was real. But there was also so much going on at the house at this time. Like, Sherilyn and Bobby had been fighting so much, they were considering a divorce. You know, at this point, they're like, five years into their marriage. So that these kinds of events, like the. The fighting and everything that her mom was going through with her mental health could have been making this kind of escapism situation for Madison. But Starlet was alarmed by the claims made by their preacher and worried about the state of mind her son Bobby was in at the time, saying that his behavior didn't sound like him at all. In addition to the disagreements that Sherilyn and Bobby were having, these paranoid suspicions about their house pointed to a different conclusion. Perhaps that maybe the couple was suffering from a mental break or psychosis or engaging in drug use or even both.

[Heath]

Well, as we mentioned earlier, Bobby's injury left him unable to work, and Sherilyn's bipolar diagnosis did the same. So they both kind of relied mostly on disability checks for their income, but still, money was very tight at this point. So in July of 2009, five years into their marriage, they had a roommate move in to help around the house and to offset the cost costs. At first, Kenneth Bellows was a very valuable addition to the home and was even able to help with household projects. But things between Sherilyn and Kenneth soured very quickly after he threatened her while she was alone in the home with young Madison, According to Nikki. Again, this is Sherilyn's friend. He taunted her about her native heritage, saying, I'm a white supremacist, and you keep talking about all this Indian blood you have, and I think anyone who's not pure white needs to die. Fucking loser. Racist. So there's that. But also, Sherilyn learned that he had prior criminal offenses, including multiple burglary and forgery charges, as well as grand theft auto, drug charges, and firearm charges.

[Daphne]

What a great guy. Great roommate.

[Heath]

Yeah. So alarmed, Sherilyn actually pulled her gun on Kenneth and told him to leave the property, even firing shots into the yard as he fled in order to just scare him off from coming back. But she was apparently very frightened of him and also carried an enormous amount of guilt about what she had done, despite feeling like she had no other option to protect herself and her daughter. Well, that same month, July of 2009, brought a custody dispute over Sherrilyn's son from her first marriage. Again, that's Colton. At a custody hearing regarding their arrangement, Colton was apparently asked where he would rather live. And colton, who was 12 years old at this time, admitted that he would prefer to live with his father. Colton explained that Sherilyn suffered from depressive episodes and that he often felt like she was behaving oddly. Then, in September of 2009, which is about a month before she disappeared, Sherilyn suffered a suicide attempt. But she did survive. So there was just a lot going on in her head and in her world at this time. Colton last saw his mom toward the end of September, about two weeks prior to when she vanished, and later claimed that she didn't mention anything about her and Bobby's plans to move out of Eufala and just get off the grid.

[Daphne]

But as time went by, apparently the Jamesons became increasingly intrigued by the idea of a simpler life outside of modern civilization, Like a slower pace, surrounded by nature in its purest form.

[Heath]

Yeah, they wanted to just go out there and live in the middle of nowhere where nobody is around.

[Daphne]

But then also that kind of made some people wonder if they were trying to run away from something or somebody, if they wanted to get away from the ghosts they thought were in their house or if there was somebody dangerous in their lives. As we're going to talk about, like, it's almost like did, like, a lot of people do have an interest of living off grid, but it kind of felt like it came suddenly. And like you just said, Colton never even heard anything about this. So it's like, did you want to live off the grid or were you trying to run away?

[Heath]

Yeah, it seems like there could have been somewhat of, like, a motivator here.

[Daphne]

Well, because obviously, as well, like we said, Eufaula is a small town of less than 3,000 people, but it's also quite rural on its own. Like, it's nestled right along Eufaula Lake, so there's like, boating and fishing and swimming. And then the lake Eufaula state park offers tons of hiking and horseback riding, etc. There's a kiwi farm nearby and other farms. There's a place called Bigfoot's treehouse because there's woods and there's farmland, and so.

[Heath]

It'S already kind of out there. It's like you're saying it's pretty rural. It's not like they're living in suburbia or anything.

[Daphne]

Yeah, they're certainly not living the city life out there. And you follow, which is why it makes you wonder. Sure, even that sometimes feels like it's too much for people and they want to be even more off grid. But that's why it's. It's kind of hard not to question if there was, like, some grim motivation behind needing to get away and seemingly needing to do it fast. But anyway, they apparently wanted something different. So that fall, like, again, not even really having talked to anybody about it, they pulled Madison out of school so that they could start homeschooling her and figure out where they're gonna live outside of Eufaula. So Again, that was a really quick move as well. They pull her out of school and they're like, oh yeah, we're gonna teach her and we're gonna move away from everybody that we know after living in this town, both of us, our entire lives, for 40 plus years, you know what I mean? Kind of interesting. So they set their sights on the unspoiled wilderness of Latimer county, heading out to the Sands Boys Mountains, which are about an hour southwest of Eufaula, near Red Oak, Oklahoma, which is much more rural and isolated, like super frickin isolated. And on Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 44 year old Bobby, 40 year old Sherilyn and 6 year old Madison loaded up their white GMC truck and drove the 30 miles, or 48 kilometers from Eufaula to Panola Mountain, which is among the Sands Boys Mountains, looking for a plot of land in hopes of living this quiet life in the wilderness, off the grid. And then they would build their own home on the property that they purchased. But while looking for a 40 acre piece of real estate to buy, the Jamisons found themselves lost in the complicated web of dirt back roads. At one point, Sherilyn and Bobby came upon a local and asked him for directions to the piece of land that they were hoping to check out. The three chatted back and forth for a while and the Jamisons asked him a few questions about his secluded way of life and how he was able to make it work. And according to this witness, there was nobody else in the vicinity at the time. No other cars, no other people. There wasn't anything weird or any sense of doom or danger. But the following day, Thursday, October 8, 2009, the family returned to check out the land, hoping not to get turned around this time. And it wasn't until eight days later, on Friday, October 16, 2009, that their locked truck was discovered abandoned in the road.

[Heath]

So their truck was actually positioned as if it had been stopped while in motion, perhaps while someone was pulling it over to ask for directions. Curious, a group of hunters patrolling the area on ATVs stopped to peer through the windows and they noticed that there was a dog locked inside. Clearly in very bad health, because somehow their dog Maisie survived. Though it had been over a week since the family was last known to have driven that vehicle. Bobby's mom, Starlet recalled she was a survivor. Now, this discovery raised immediate red flags for the friends and family who basically knew how much the family dog meant to them and especially to young Madison. This is, this is her family dog. You know, this is her pet.

[Daphne]

Yeah. And not only would they not have left the dog behind, but they wouldn't have left the truck. And in such a weird place, like, there's so many red flags here.

[Heath]

And especially, you know, because of the time that's already passed. We're missing precious details and hours here.

[Daphne]

Yeah. And we're going to post a picture of the truck. It's not on the road. It's, like, pulled off in, like, a dirt turnout kind of area amongst the mountain. So it definitely could have. It makes sense that it was a week before someone was really like. Because it's not like it was in the middle of the road or something, but it's definitely. It's just interesting that you said that it appeared that it was stopped while in motion. Like, it wasn't in a spot that was like, oh, we're parking this and we're gonna get out. It was like the way that it was found was odd.

[Heath]

So essentially this. This group of hunters called the Latimer County Sheriff's Office, whose first order of business was to rescue Maisie and then ensure that she was properly cared for. But then found in the truck were plenty more clues that something had gone terribly wrong. The couple's wallets with identification and cash inside were found in the truck, as well as their cell phones, GPS and Sherilyn's purse. Their coats were also left inside. Despite local temperatures hovering in the 40s Fahrenheit, or around 5 degrees Celsius by nightfall. So it was getting pretty cold at night. The truck bore no signs of having been in an accident. It was in proper working order and it had plenty of fuel. So again, the only thing that could immediately make sense was that they stopped someone for directions and then something happened from there.

[Daphne]

Yeah. Or like if they pulled over to look at a mountain or somebody had to use the restroom or something. But it's just so weird that all of their stuff is inside, like, not even their phone, because you would imagine if they're going to walk away from the car for whatever reason, not like they would need to flag down somebody because their car is fine. You know, like, it doesn't seem like there's any reason for them to need to leave their vehicle. You would imagine they would have taken some of their stuff, at least a phone.

[Heath]

And their dog.

[Daphne]

Yeah, and their dog.

[Heath]

You know, like, exactly. Well, also, because of how frozen the scene felt, it just kind of looked like they had been plucked from thin air. There were no signs of a struggle whatsoever here. But get this Strangely, inside the car was a bank bag containing $32,000 in cash, which had been stuffed under the driver's seat. Supposedly, Bobby had been paid out about $64,000 from his car accident, you know, when he was smushed between those two cars. So it's thought that this could have come from that insurance claim, while others have kind of speculated that the couple was still mulling over a divorce and that this was Bobby's way of protecting his portion of these profits. But I mean, obviously it's also possible that they brought all this money along with them so that they could potentially purchase a piece of land.

[Daphne]

Yeah, at least put like a down payment down, on, which I feel like would be fairly easy for police to figure out if they found out where that land was and talked to the owner and decided if there was that kind of negotiation taking place. Because I don't know that you just haven't looked at a house and you bring the cash with you and give it to the owner, like right then and there.

[Heath]

So typically doesn't. Doesn't work that way.

[Daphne]

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[Heath]

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Well, like Heath was just saying before, before that break, police on the scene admitted that this discovery of this bag of cash did potentially point towards possible drug involvement. As of this year in 2025, Oklahoma has the sixth highest drug use in the country. Methamphetamine is responsible for the highest amount of accidental overdoses, resulting in more than 800 annual deaths for multiple years running. The use of methamphetamines is especially prevalent in the area of Oklahoma from which the Jamesons disappeared. So that is definitely worth considering.

[Heath]

Yeah, definitely A lot of drug use in that area.

[Daphne]

It doesn't mean everybody's doing it doesn't mean they are, obviously. But adding to the drug crisis is the fact that Oklahoma has one of the highest poverty rates in the country, ranking 41st out of the 50 states, plus Washington, D.C. however, Starlet argued against this possibility being a contributing factor. And she is, of course, Bobby's mom, so she knows them very well. She said, I don't know anything about having drugs or any of that. People jump to conclusions. They don't know what's happening. Nikki echoed this sentiment, saying, quote, I feel like a lot of the things that could be helpful in this case are almost being used to make them seem like druggies or whatever. And they weren't. They weren't at all. Everyone is speculating as to what they were doing up there. Well, they were looking at land. It doesn't mean that they were up to no good. So there was no sign of meth or drug paraphernalia found inside the car at all, nor in a subsequent search.

[Heath]

Of the home, which is pretty huge when you consider that people who do use drugs often leave paraphernalia or at least there's something. Something. Yeah, some sort of trace. If they were using it within the home, you would be able to find something. And they found nothing.

[Daphne]

Yeah, I read some comments online where people are like, oh, yeah, because drug users just leave their. Their stuff, they don't take it with them or whatever. Like kind of saying, oh, well, just because they didn't find it doesn't mean they didn't bring it with them wherever they went. But it's like they didn't bring their dog, they didn't bring their phone there with her six year old. So they're gonna leave literally everything behind except for drugs and a pipe. You know what I mean? Like Come on. Yeah, it just, it feels like, I don't know, I think those two quotes that we. We read or that I just read, it doesn't mean that they didn't have drugs or that they weren't involved in something sketchy, but these are the two people that know them the best. And so all we know right now is that nothing was found. So we really can't lean into the drug thing because there's no evidence of that.

[Heath]

Right.

[Daphne]

And then Cherilyn's mom, Connie. So both moms weighing in here maintained, quote, they were not taking meth. There is no way. How could they have looked after little Madison if they were. They were good parents and they would not have been capable of that if they were on meth.

[Heath]

Well, I understand the sentiment here, and I understand that this is their mothers, but I will say that there are people, there are parents, there are that use drugs like this in the home, of course, with young children. So, you know, it's. It's like, I don't know if that's saying a whole lot.

[Daphne]

I think she's just trying to use it. And, you know, maybe it's not a blanket statement for all people who use meth saying, oh, well, no good parent who watches their kid could possibly take drugs. I think it comes across that way based on her wording. But yeah, of course, in this, in this specific quote, she's talking about Bobby and Sherilyn.

[Heath]

Sure.

[Daphne]

And a lot of people do a lot of stuff behind their family members, that's for sure. So we really can't say 100%. But what we know, again, is that there's no drug paraphernalia, no drugs found in the car or in the house.

[Heath]

And I think a big reason why people are really leaning into this drug thing is the fact that there was a lot of erratic behavior happening before they vanished. Again, the ghosts. We're going to talk about some surveillance footage that's very alarming.

[Daphne]

Yeah. And we can talk about drugs again quickly then when we talk about the surveillance footage. But yeah, just important to give this background so you guys know. But I do understand why people bring it up. Of course, maybe they don't have all those details that we just discussed. But also there's a big mystery at hand.

[Heath]

Well, let's. Let's talk about another thing that was removed from the truck that was kind of alarming. It was an 11 page letter that was penned by Sherrilyn to Bobby bemoaning the fact that he was not a good partner to her or Parent to Madison, and that she believed that he would have preferred to be on his own without her or their daughter. So 11 pages.

[Daphne]

That's long.

[Heath]

Yeah, that's long. Saying that, hey, I don't think that you're a good partner or a good father.

[Daphne]

I mean, if we're basing it off of the research for this case that we have today is like 16 pages of research. 11 pages. That's like a 30 minute letter.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Daphne]

You're reading it from front to back.

[Heath]

Yeah. That's a lot. Well, she basically, in this letter, described him as a hermit and a loner and declared her desire for a divorce.

[Daphne]

It's also hard, though, because when did she write this letter? Obviously, we know they're looking for property together. Is this an old letter that she wrote? Why was it in the car? We don't really know.

[Heath]

Well, Nikki said that Sherilyn would frequently write in her journal to express her feelings and frustrations, and that she may have not meant what she was writing to be taken, like, literally. Yeah, yeah. It's just kind of like, I'm just gonna jot down my feelings here.

[Daphne]

11 pages of it.

[Heath]

Yeah. Well, her family recalled that in the months before their disappearance, the couple had discussed divorce and that one of the reasons that they were leaving their home in Eufaula behind was to kind of get, like, this fresh start and be the family that they wanted to be. Well, one item was noticeably missing from the truck, and that was Sherilyn's.22 caliber pistol, which she reportedly brought with her everywhere for protection. But that gun, I will say, has never been recovered, despite a very extensive search of their home and their car. And this led investigators to wonder if perhaps Sherilyn had been the aggressor in a murder suicide plot, which seemed increasingly more likely after the discovery of that letter. The initial assumption by law enforcement was that the family had gotten lost while wandering in the woods and fallen prey to the elements. Or that they had suffered an injury or perhaps an animal attack, such as possibly a snake bite. But this quickly seemed to become less and less likely as more details came.

[Daphne]

To fruition, Especially again, since their car was so haphazardly parked and their dog was inside. Like, the scene really does feel kind of sudden. Like you said, it was frozen almost. It was like. Like they were plucked from the car. But I think the fact that her gun is missing, it's not in the house. She carried it with her everywhere. She didn't just decide to throw it away one day. So why did she have her Gun on her? Were they pulled over? They felt like they were in a dangerous situation. That was all she could take. You know, it makes a hundred questions run into your mind.

[Heath]

Well, I will say that given Bobby's health ailments, it would have been a massive undertaking for him to hike uphill through uneven terrain. So a willing hike kind of felt pretty unlikely. Now, the sheriff at the time, Israel Beacham, concluded, I think they were forced to stop and got out of the truck to meet with someone they recognized. And I think that they either left willingly or. Or by force. Under typical circumstances, it may have seemed strange that an entire family could be gone for over a week without any of their friends or family noticing. But that doesn't seem to be the relationship that they had with anyone, even those closest to them, because Sherilyn's good friend Nikki admitted, we could go a year and not talk and pick up the phone and act as if no time had gone by. I mean, that's just the relationship we had. There's a lot of reasons why no one was alarmed. Well, after the car was identified via the license plates and Maisie was safely removed, police contacted Colton and asked if he had heard from his mom and stepdad. He informed police that he had not and offered up their address so that police could go and do a welfare check on them. But obviously, police did not find any sign of the Jamisons at their home. So Colton tried calling both of them and was unable to reach either of them. Now, aside from the obvious signs of foul play due to the enormous amount of unanswered questions left behind, there was no sign of a struggle or confrontation left behind at their vehicle. Like, there was no scuff marks on the ground, you know, nothing that would indicate that a fight had taken place. Eerily, it appeared as if the family locked the doors behind them with Maisie inside, and then headed off into the rugged terrain alone.

[Daphne]

Well, their cell phones, which, remember, were found inside the car when their car was found, provided key location data in the case, because according to the cell phone tracking, the family had trekked up the hill away from the car, heading toward a large rock that served as a lookout, which painted the possibility that they had gone to this lookout at some point. Maybe they stopped the car, went to the lookout, and then came back. And that's how their phones ended up in the car. And then, obviously, something strange happened after that. But it's really interesting because the voicemail of Bobby's cell phone was checked on November 12, which is just over a month after they went missing. So how the hell does one explain that? Because again, his phone at that point would have been in police possession. And this is the kind of phone where you, you know, people used to call their voicemails. It wasn't like how it is on a smartphone today, where you press the voicemail button. It was like you had to call it so you could call it from a different number. Why would somebody do that?

[Heath]

Yeah, it's interesting. And I wonder if police were able to figure out who had checked that voicemail, like if it was a family member or possibly a friend. I mean, I don't know.

[Daphne]

It's as far as we know this detail, it remains unexplained to this day. Like, apparently police don't know who checked it, why somebody would check it. It just really adds to the mystery. Like this. I don't know, this detail really weirds me out. So traipsing up that hill were footprints which were found leading away from the truck. Small footprints belonging to Madison with hers being the only set visible in the mud at all. And found on one of their cell phones. Either Bobby or Sherilyn's has not been released. Was the last known picture taken of Madison. And there on that hill in the area where their car was found, from a small bluff looking out on the wilderness, Madison can be seen looking off camera with her arms folded, wearing a pink top, her blonde hair blowing in the breeze a little bit and sporting a gap toothed, grinning because she had recently lost a few of her front teeth. And this kind of just brought upon even more questions. We're going to post the photo. It's up on socials now if you guys want to go look at it. If you haven't seen it yet.

[Heath]

Yeah, I think this is one of the most. One of the most heavily discussed photographs from this case. I mean, there's really only that one.

[Daphne]

But the only discussed photograph.

[Heath]

But people really talk about this and they speculate a lot on this photo. So if you haven't seen gone and seen it, please go to our socials and check it out.

[Daphne]

Yeah, that and the surveillance footage that, of course, we'll get into here in a minute. It's just. Well, if before I talk about the picture more, this is what friend Nikki had to say. She said, quote, I don't think her parents took that picture. I think that somebody else that she did not know took that picture. She had her arms out like this and her hand was over it in a weird position. She was looking off. It wasn't A real smile. She looked very uncomfortable to me. Very uncomfortable. And then actually, Starlet Jameson echoed this saying. Madison is looking away from the camera. She looks unhappy, and she has her arms crossed. She loved having her picture taken. If that had been Bobby or Cherilyn behind the camera, she would not have looked like that.

[Heath]

And I will say that, you know, when you're getting your picture taken by your parents, usually the thing that you do is smile. I mean, not always, but she's a young kid as well.

[Daphne]

It's just so hard because, like, I'm looking at the picture right now, and I. I don't know this girl. I don't know Madison. So I don't know what she usually looks like. And that's why I. I have to kind of believe what Starlet and Nikki are saying, because they know her well. They might also be saying this because understandably, they feel like something bad happened in their family, and they feel like maybe adding suspicion to the last photograph is going to help their case get looked at with a different set of eyes. Maybe. But I just don't, like. I don't really see an upset face in this picture.

[Heath]

I have to agree with you there. It doesn't look like. To me, it doesn't look like she's distressed. That's just my opinion.

[Daphne]

Kind of looks like she's coming out of a laugh or a smile to me. Again, there are other photos of her where she's smiling and this face looks. It just looks like she's caught in.

[Heath]

A conversation or something, but maybe like a candid moment.

[Daphne]

Really? Yeah. But it's not. It is not outwardly an upsetting expression to me. Nikki says that she looks uncomfortable. I don't know. I. I don't know what Madison looks like when she's uncomfortable, but I. I feel like the way this photo is discussed, you might. If you don't know what it looks like and you go look at it, you're probably going to be like, oh, that's the picture.

[Heath]

Yeah. Yeah. Like the way that we described it just now, or the way that Nikki is describing it makes it sound like there's something that can really prove that she's distressed or uncomfortable. But really, I just don't see anything there.

[Daphne]

But this does kind of prove that they potentially were walking around at some point, which would make sense why this photo was taken, why they're flying. Phones went to this area up the hill, why they went over there, we don't know. Again, it could have been as simple as I need a pee or hey, mom, what's up that hill? I want to go look at the view. Like we just don't know. But this does help prove that because again, it's not like her phone was found in the wilderness. And this proves that some stranger took it, right?

[Heath]

It was locked in the truck.

[Daphne]

Unless somebody returned the phones to the truck after killing the Jameson family. But why would they do that? Why not just destroy the phones so it does. It's really hard to paint a picture here.

[Heath]

Lot of questions here. Dozens of people, both professionals and volunteers, joined in to search on foot in this area, combing the rocky, wooded and hilly terrain surrounding where the Jamisons truck was found. Searchers employed cars and ATVs, brought in both scent dogs and cadaver dogs, and even rode donkeys and horses to search along the security included dirt trails. But they found no sign of the family or any indication as to where they had ended up. The dogs did hit on a nearby water tank multiple times, but there was no sign of the family inside or around that tank. By the end of October 2009 alone, more than 330 people had stepped up to search for the family. In November, another massive search was organized, this time with over 100 participants, including members of Texas Equisearch and the national center for Missing and Exploited Children. Drones in a plane with heat seeking technology flew overhead, but it still was not enough to find any answers. Then temperatures began to drop and extreme weather threatened the integrity of the operation. Rainfall accumulated, causing flash flood risks and making the muddy roadways even more treacherous. Sheriff Beacham announced, we've already had to have people towed out. We've had people slide off the side. The conditions on the road are getting worse and they're just going to get worse as more people come up here. He added that sadly, the prognosis of finding the family at that point had become very slim. By then, Sherilyn's mom, Connie, had become convinced that her daughter had been murdered. She told the press, there's no way that they just wandered off and got lost. What I truly believe is that they went up there, saw something they shouldn't have, and were murdered by someone. Who that was, I don't know. The way their truck was left, looks like it had been forced to stop by someone. Everyone around here knows that there's lots of evil people up in those mountains. It's where outlaws like Jesse James used to hide out. It's so isolated. I'm scared to go up there. Connie even pointed to satanic cult activity as a potential cause for the murder, especially since inside the home was a satanic bible and notes apparently addressed to Satan himself. Well, I mean, just. Oh, man, I just gotta say real quick before we move on, there's so much craziness in this case. Just the fact that, like, there's the ghosts, there's, you know, Satan cults, drugs, letters, I mean, photographs. There's just so much going on here.

[Daphne]

There really is. Well, as time went by with no sign of them, the rumors about the disappearance of an entire Eufaula family began to overtake the facts. Obviously, with everything we're talking about now, it's kind of easy for there to be so many rumors and so many ideas and. And that can hurt the investigation. But these strange conversations kind of advanced when video footage was found in late October, when law enforcement pulled surveillance footage from the family's home from the multiple cameras affixed on the outside of the house. Now, Starlet explained that this was actually the reason these cameras were even there, especially with this being 2009. You know, cameras are so popular now. But according to Starlet, apparently the reason these were on their house, in particular on the Jamisons home, is because of her estranged, abusive husband Bob, AKA Bobby's dad. And that she, Starlet, had wanted her son to install these cameras for the family's protection after he threatened both Bobby and his brother. We'll go a little bit more into the drama of that in a minute. But just so you know, Bobby's dad is bad news. So they wanted to have cameras. Now let's talk about what's on the. On the cameras and on the videos. So in the videos, their final movements in front of the house were captured before they left to apparently go see this piece of land. And they can be seen packing up.

[Heath]

The car, obviously on its head. That doesn't sound like a weird thing, but.

[Daphne]

But law enforcement described the footage as eerie and claimed that the pair. So Sherilyn and Bobby appeared to be in a trance like state as they're loading up the truck. According to the sheriff, Sherilyn and Bobby took about 20 trips between the car and the house and never once acknowledged each other. And they changed clothes several times during this loading and unloading. And they also apparently took things to and from the house and the truck, loading the same things sometimes. So, like they would take something to the truck and then they'd bring something else, and then they take that thing out and bring it back to the house. They were kind of like what they were doing. Their movements didn't feel like they really made a lot of sense. Apparently they also appeared to completely stop in their tracks, sometimes zoning out and staring straight ahead.

[Heath]

Now, obviously that's very weird. I mean, just the fact that, like, you're not even acknowledging your. Your wife or your husband. Like they're just passing each other, not saying a word, and then sometimes they're just standing there zoning off into the distance.

[Daphne]

Yeah. Which maybe they're both just silently doing what they need to do. They're not saying, oh, did you grab this bag? They're not having those conversations outside, as far as we can tell. But it is just worth noting that apparently it was weird. And Sheriff Israel Beacham actually asked a forensic psychologist to pore over the footage, and they together came to the conclusion that the trance, like, state seemed likely to be due to drug use. But again, no conclusive evidence of such drug use or drugs was ever found. So it's like literally, a forensic psychologist and a sheriff get together and go over this footage and they say that they. The way they look, that they look like they're in a trance. It's so weird to them. Well, they have to be on drugs. That's the actual conclusion that they came to.

[Heath]

I mean, it's hard to find any other conclusion. Conclusion here.

[Daphne]

I mean, but there's no evidence of any drug paraphernalia. There's no evidence of the drug that they would have taken that day because then they left the house. So unless they threw it away, you know, it's just. It's just kind of weird. There's no evidence of it.

[Heath]

I think that kind of adds to the mystery. Although I will say that due to Bobby's accident, he was taking prescription pain medications. So it's possible that that could have made them kind of like if they both dozy or.

[Daphne]

Yeah, if they both took it. But that's a really good point. Drugs does not equal methamphetamine. Methamphetamine. Yeah. But the fact that he's saying drugs and not saying, I don't know, he's not saying, oh, it looks like he's pilled out. You know what I mean?

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Daphne]

It's just we don't. I don't know exactly what he's thinking, but I also think it's really interesting that he's saying this at all, because I've looked at the footage. You've looked at the footage. I don't find it frickin weird in the slightest. It's kind of like the picture of Madison that I'm like, I don't really see what other people are seeing.

[Heath]

Well, we will post it for you guys so that you guys can see exactly what that footage looks like.

[Daphne]

Well, I'll explain it as well. So Again, this is 2009. Today. If you have a ring camera on your doorbell or whatever, you. There's very clear movements. It's color, there's night vision. You can, there's a microphone so you can hear as well. This is one of those cameras that essentially takes a picture every few seconds. So it's not really like a moving camera. It's just taking pictures and then putting them all together. Right, right. Well, it's color and it's very low quality as well. You can't see a ton that's going on. So this trance like state they're talking about, I cannot personally see. They just look like they're walking to and fro. But also less than a minute of that footage has been released across the board from the different cameras showing different angles. So a lot of it has not been released. So maybe if we got to see all of it, we would see more. But I was reading the comments of the YouTube videos that have this footage up and everyone's like, what? It doesn't seem like anybody really can see.

[Heath]

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense if you don't have the full footage.

[Daphne]

But something I want to bring up as well is that from other cases that we've covered, I don't feel like it's very often that police sensationalize details. I feel like it's actually kind of the other way around. Yeah, they're the ones saying, oh, she ran away. And we're the ones saying obviously she didn't, you know, so the fact that they are calling the footage eerie, they're saying they're in a trance like state. They're saying that they think the Jamesons were murdered. These are all the things the sheriff is saying. Usually they don't go that far to scare the community if they don't actually feel that way.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Daphne]

So I'm kind of inclined to want to look deeper because of that.

[Heath]

Yeah. I mean, yeah. Police have obviously more information and more footage than we do than the public does. So I'm wondering what exactly led them to that conclusion. But obviously we don't know.

[Daphne]

It's so hard.

[Heath]

Well, on November 16, 2013, four years and one month to the day since the couple's car was recovered, the bodies of Sherilyn and Bobby along with that of 6 year old Madison were found in the woods. 2.7 miles away from their car near the valley of Smokestack Hollow in the Sands Boys Mountains.

[Daphne]

And we will post a map, by.

[Heath]

The way, which is kind of crazy. And many people were very shocked that the bodies had not been recovered, like, years prior, because they did all these extensive searches, and the bodies were almost only like, three miles away from the truck. But according to the sheriff's department, leaves and foliage likely obstructed their discovery. So that does make sense. They were finally positively identified as the remains of Sherilyn, Bobby, and Madison on July 3rd of 2014. But ultimately, due to the heavy decomposition and animal activity, no cause or manner of death could be determined. But one of the skulls was found pierced with a small hole, initially presumed to be from a gunshot wound. But this could not be confirmed nor denied. But I will say that the coroner did acknowledge that the trio were found under suspicious circumstances, and obviously not just because they would have had to have walked, like, three miles to get to where they were found, which, by the way, is not something it seems like Bobby would have done, you know, in his condition, because he was injured.

[Daphne]

I agree.

[Heath]

Remnants of clothing and shoes were found with the bodies, and they were resting face down and seemed to have been lined up in a row.

[Daphne]

So weird.

[Heath]

Yes, and we will talk about that here in a second. But theories are obviously very plentiful in this case. But suspects and concrete evidence are very scarce. One possible conclusion was that the family's roommate, again Kenneth Bellows, the racist, was responsible for this, having a score to settle with Sherilyn after their falling out and her pointing her gun at him. Detectives were able to surmise his name from a bottle of prescription medication found inside the Jamison's truck. So they tracked him down in Wilburton, Oklahoma, just down the road from Red Oak, near where the Jamisons were looking at property. So obviously, that's pretty suspicious. So, of course, he was brought in for questioning by the FBI, but he was able to offer up an alibi for the period of time in which the Jamisons were believed to have disappeared.

[Daphne]

Still very interesting.

[Heath]

And I wonder what that alibi was.

[Daphne]

Yeah, sadly, we are not privy to that. But a murder suicide, family annihilation kind of plot is a popular theory, and it is a little bit plausible, you know, obviously due to the more strange and erratic behavior exhibited by both Sherilyn and Bobby in the months preceding their deaths. And I'm not saying that either of them would have wanted to do this. I'm not trying to disrespect their memory. Like that. But a lot of people do point to this as a possibility. You know, as we know, they had some marital woes, potential drug use, or at least mental health struggles going on, or some combination of the three. A lot of people think that because there was so much stress and a lot going on in their lives, even though we know that that pointed to them wanting to have a fresh start, that instead somebody ended it all for them. And more specifically, Bobby or Sherilyn. Well, other strange details kind of make it hard to lock in on this idea. Another popular theory is the involvement of Bobby's dad, Bob Jameson, who happened to pass away In December of 2009, just two months after the family disappeared. So, like I said earlier, we're going to tell you a little bit more about that. Let's dive into Bob. So early. Earlier that year that they went missing In April of 2009, Bobby had actually filed a protective order against his dad, Bob, following a fallout over a business deal that had gone sour. With Bobby. Having trouble finding work that would accommodate his injury, Bob offered to employ him at the gas station he owned. And when he sold it off, he apparently promised his son half the profit. But when the sale went through, Bobby did not see his cut. The protective order also alleged that Bob had attempted to strike Bobby with his car back on November 1, 2008. So a year before his disappearance, Bobby's petition called Bob a very dangerous man who thinks he is above the law and accused him of working with Mexican drug cartels, as well as being involved with sex workers, gangs, and the local meth trade. Bobby added, quote, my entire family is severely scared for their lives. I am in fear at all times. That feels like a pretty big thing to say. You're in fear at all times. And also we know the multiple security cameras, that wouldn't have been very cheap, I'm assuming, to put up back in 2009. It's not like it's the 80s, but still were because of Bob, were because of Bob. So if you're going to put up multiple cameras around your house, you're filing protective order in this petition. Like, you must be really scared of this guy. And especially because he's your own dad and you're still going to all these measures. This is a pretty intense situation. And Bob's brother, Jack Jameson, so Bobby's uncle claimed that Bob was either in a hospital or a nursing home at the time that the family disappeared. So Jack is kind of saying, yeah, my brother couldn't have done this. But we don't know if that's 100% true. And then some people also believe that it's possible at the very least, Bob could have organized a hit on his own son as like a final act of vengeance before his passing. And though a hit job might seem far fetched, it might explain the position in which the bodies were found. You know, laid out side by side on their stomachs as if they had been prepared for an execution style murder. And also the fact that they had just vanished from their car. It's possible that somebody was following them whether it was a hit or not.

[Heath]

And one other thing to mention here is that again, we were talking about the fact that Sherilyn had this.22 caliber gun. That gun was never found. It was never found alongside the bodies. So that's a very big piece of to this whole case is the fact that there was never a gun found.

[Daphne]

Very good point. Yeah. That gun was not found on her body.

[Heath]

Because you would imagine if it was like this murder suicide plot that was going on, that either Sherilyn or Bobby would have had to have shot Madison, Sherilyn or Bobby, and then themselves. But that did not appear to be the case.

[Daphne]

Yeah, you're 100% correct. And I think that's why that theory has really dissipated since their bodies were found. It made more sense to put weight on that before the bodies were found. But yeah, if they're all laying next to each other and there's no weapon found at the scene, then there's no murder suicide.

[Heath]

I mean, the only possible conclusion, I mean, there could have been had they ingested some sort of poison. But again, it's hard to tell because of the amount of decomposition. They just really could not tell the manner or cause of death.

[Daphne]

And also, it just doesn't feel like you're going to go out to the woods to poison yourselves, yourself and your family. And then where is the gun? Did somebody stumble across it and steal it and it was actually there? Or were they murdered and whoever murdered them took the gun? I think the gun is a big key here.

[Heath]

I mean, I highly doubt that somebody is just gonna stumble upon a gun and there's decomposing bodies lying there and they're not gonna report that, you know, sorry.

[Daphne]

Even if, you know, maybe they had found it and didn't find the bodies, I'm sure they would have reported that. But also, as we know, many people who find guns do take it right to the police. That never happens, so.

[Heath]

Or there's the possibility that again, that they were murdered and whoever murdered Them took Sherilyn's gun.

[Daphne]

Yes. Well, back to Bob, really quick. So Connie, who is Sherilyn's mother, remembered, quote, sherilyn and Bobby were scared of Bob. He had a temper, and he had money. There were also rumors he had connections to the Mexican mafia. That's what I had been told. When a judge denied Bobby's protective order, he filed a lawsuit against his father instead. But interestingly, that case was not settled in time before the family disappeared.

[Heath]

Well, Connie maintains that the couple fell victim to cult activity. According to both Connie and Nikki, a religious cult headquartered in southeast Oklahoma had a hit list that Sherilyn was placed on after the episode of Disappeared aired about the Jamison family's case. A woman anonymously called Nikki, knowing that she was one of Sherilyn's closest friends, and told her that she used to belong to a white supremacist cult who had kept a running list of people that they planned to murder and that Sherilyn's name had been on that list. This woman remembered seeing the name and later googling the family and realizing that she was, in fact, a missing person.

[Daphne]

That feels. That feels kind of weird because it's. If they were taken out in their home, maybe I would have believed that. But some random person. Yeah.

[Heath]

Calling you and telling you this without.

[Daphne]

Any evidence also, I'm just gonna say, say Sherilyn is white passing. So obviously she is a native woman. She has native blood. She has native ancestry. But for somebody to. Somebody in a white supremacist cult to follow this family while they're on a trip, a road trip, to look at a piece of land and kill all of them in the wilderness. What?

[Heath]

Yeah, I just. I just don't. I don't see that.

[Daphne]

Yeah. And it seems like this rumor also came from Sherilyn's kind of, like, witchy activity. But those behaviors could have had multiple other justifications. But going a little bit further into that side of theories, some people think that it's the possibility that paranormal forces were involved, you know, due to the family's belief that their house was haunted. But also feels incredibly far fetched. Sheriff Israel Beacham maintained the belief that the family had been murdered during his tenure in office. But his predecessor, Sheriff Jesse James, wasn't so sure. He shared with the press, quote, it's a very strange deal. You know, the. The way this case has unfolded, we're looking at a lot of things. A lot of things have crossed my mind. After his departure from the sheriff's office, Israel Beacham followed up with, quote, normally you can go through an investigation and one by one, start to eliminate certain scenarios. We haven't been able to do that in this case. With this family, everything seems possible. To this day, there are no known suspects in the deaths of the Jamison family. In an interview about the case, Nikki said sadly, you know, I would sell my left limb if somebody would come forward, if somebody would just say something, anything. Because for as many people as there were out there that didn't like them, there were twice as many people that loved them. And we need closure. They didn't deserve this. If you have any information about the disappearances of the Jamison family, please call the Latimer Police Department at 918-465-2161 foreign thank you so much, everybody, for listening to this episode of Going West.

[Heath]

Yes, thank you guys so much for listening to this episode. What a wild ride. I hope that one day we can find answers to this crazy case.

[Daphne]

I'm so glad at least their bodies were found to be able, you know, their family is able to bury them and have some closure, to at least know that they're no longer with us. But the fact that they weren't even able to gleam a cause or manner of death in any of the three, but that they think maybe one of them was shot in the head, like, it's just, this is such a truly, like I said in the beginning, confounding case. And I think that's why it's one of the greatest mysteries in this country, honestly, because it. None of it makes any sense.

[Heath]

Yep, none of it makes any sense. Well, if you guys want to see photos from this case and all the other cases that we've covered, again, head on over to our socials. We're on Instagram at Going west podcast. We're also on TikTok and we're on Facebook.

[Daphne]

So let us know your thoughts, please. Again, it feels so hard to come to any type of conclusion. It feels like to me, the cult stuff and, you know, paranormal stuff. Paranormal stuff, Yeah. I. I feel like I'm very suspicious of Bob, of Bobby's dad, Bob. I think it seems like they kind of made a decent amount of enemies, but that enemy would have had to have followed them on their journey that day, and maybe they did. It's just everything does seem kind of like a stretch, which is why it's so difficult. But the fact that Sherilyn's gun wasn't found there, I don't think this was a murder suicide at all. But I don't know what it is.

[Heath]

I don't think any any of us know exactly what it is, you know. Well, thank you guys so much for listening and we will see you guys on Tuesday. So for everybody out there in the.

[Daphne]

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