Elon Musk: You decide!

Summary

Good Bad Billionaire – “Elon Musk: You Decide!” (BBC World Service, Jan 23, 2026)

Episode Overview

In this special feedback-focused episode, hosts Simon Jack (BBC Business Editor) and Zing Tsjeng (journalist, author, and podcaster) review listener responses to their previous deep-dive on Elon Musk—the world's richest person and a divisive icon. They share a spectrum of opinions from around the globe, exploring whether Musk is a “good, bad, or just another billionaire.” The conversation traverses Musk's achievements, environmental impact, personal controversies, and philosophical debates about wealth and power.

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Structure

• Listener Impressions: Global Feedback (02:13–05:11)
• Achievements vs. Controversy (03:27–07:23)
• Ethics, Power & Responsibility (07:23–09:51)
• Fan Mail & Impact (09:51–13:44)
• Motivation & Complexity (13:44–16:24)
• Sidebar: Billionaire Dog Lovers (16:28–16:54)

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Listener Impressions: Global Feedback

• The hosts highlight the immense and diverse listener engagement following their Elon Musk episode.
• Feedback arrives from Havana, Cape Town, the UK, South Africa, the Netherlands, Zambia, the US, Nigeria, Canada, and more.
• First reactions often reference Musk’s role as an innovator and planetary influencer.

Notable Quote:

• “No single person on this planet has done more to get mankind away from incredibly damaging fossil fuel vehicles and into clean energy transport. No small thing.”
  – Andre from Cape Town [02:42]

• Contrastingly, others express concerns about Musk’s influence in politics and social spheres.

Quote:

• “I have had it when it comes to billionaires going into politics and ruining our lives, especially when it comes to Elon Musk… How are they even qualified?”
  – Brilliante from South Africa [03:02]

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2. Achievements vs. Controversy

• Many listeners praise Musk's technological contributions (Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink), but opinions are split on his personality and motivations.
• Some see his direct communication style and ambitious goals as positives; others find them off-putting, with references to specific incidents changing their perceptions (e.g., the Thai cave rescue tweet).

Notable Story:

• Andy from the UK recounts following Musk since his early engineering days and seeing him as a catalyst for technological progress but notes:
  “The incident of the trapped Thai divers was when I started to understand what a jerk Musk can be... But overall, I'd still have to call him a good billionaire because I think he's accelerated some much-needed technological change.” [05:05]

• Several comments point to Musk’s environmentalism as being significant, but listeners are quick to qualify achievements with ethical concerns.

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3. Ethics, Power & Responsibility

• Listeners like Dr. Eleanor (astronomer, Netherlands) argue that Musk symbolizes the harmful “move fast and break things” ethos and misses the opportunity to solve more immediate planetary problems, such as famine and climate change.

Memorable Moment:

• “He frames his ambitions as expanding and saving humanity, but he neglects the fact that he actually has the resources to do things to address actual serious challenges that humanity is facing now, like famine and climate… I suspect he cares less about saving the world than the fact of being the one who does the saving.”
  – Dr. Eleanor [06:14]

• Chris echoes this, dismissing Musk’s Mars ambitions as “just another variant of west coast survivalism—screw everyone else, I'm going to survive.” [07:08]

Moral Reflections:

• Philippa draws on Greek philosophy: “Morally speaking, it's intentions that count and the way he treats people. … I believe in the ancient Greek idea of kalos kagathos, meaning good and beautiful are inseparable. … I see no goodness in Musk's overpowering power.” [08:07]

• James (UK) summarizes a common sentiment: “With great wealth comes great responsibility. If you can't find a way to do good with your money and leave the world a better place, you're basically a bad person.” [08:19]

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4. Fan Mail & Impact

• Some listeners remain full-throated admirers, lauding Musk’s vision and hands-on product innovation.

Notable Quotes:

• “Elon Musk is one of the most inspirational business leaders in the world. He's saving humanity—with electric cars and space travel. He's one of my heroes. He's liked some of my comments on Facebook! He's a great billionaire.”
  – Kai, business owner [11:56]

• Gary (Nevada, USA) testifies to Tesla’s transformative technology: “My car just keeps getting better and better. … The air pollution savings alone should get Elon a 10 in almost all areas. … There’s Elon at the top and every other billionaire in the minor leagues looking up.” [10:28–11:56]

• Some playfully refer to Musk as “the GOAT” (greatest of all time), reflecting fandom that sometimes borders on the idolatrous.

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5. Motivation & Complexity

• Other listeners reflect on the psychological roots of Musk’s drive:

  • Janelle (Nigeria) suggests, “I've always thought he was someone who struggled with self-esteem and his background kind of confirms it… He's trying so hard to be a bad guy to get attention. … Sexual harassment isn't something to take lightly amongst other controversies, so he is definitely a bad guy.” [12:45]

• Stephen (UK) muses on Musk’s playfulness and possible inspirations, such as referencing “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” with the $420 Tesla share tweet and launching the Roadster into space. [13:44]

  • “It’s now the fastest car ever. Norfolk!” [14:47]

• Some, like Robert (Montreal), are undecided: “I can't imagine anyone claiming he falls into the category of just another billionaire. … I would categorize Elon Musk as a good/bad billionaire.” [15:10]

• Daniel (South Africa) expresses hometown pride but mixed feelings: “I do think he has the potential to be a good billionaire if he focuses on his original goal and that is bettering the environment.” [15:33]

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6. Sidebar: Billionaire Dog Lovers

• A listener query about billionaire pet preferences receives an answer: Oprah Winfrey is cited as a dog lover, sparking ideas for future pet-themed billionaire analyses. [16:43–16:54]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Attribution)

• “I think Elon is the GOAT. Undoubtedly.”
  – Listener from the UK [12:27]
• “It reminds me of the totalitarian leaders of ancient dynasties building rivers of mercury underground. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely—makes me shiver.”
  – Ann (UK) [08:33]
• “Imagine being an alien and coming across a Tesla Roadster in the depths of space. You’d be so confused.”
  – Zing Tsjeng [14:47]

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Conclusion: Is Elon Musk Good, Bad, or Just Another Billionaire?

• The Verdict: The episode highlights extraordinary polarization—Musk is revered as a revolutionary by some and condemned as dangerous by others. Many listeners recognize both his technological achievements and his troubling personal and ethical lapses.
• Final Thought: As Simon and Zing repeat, only you can decide: “Are they good, bad, or just another billionaire?”

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Key Timestamps

• [02:13] – First listener emails: global reach, initial reactions
• [03:27] – Environmental impact and industry disruption
• [05:17] – Academic and regulatory criticism
• [06:52] – Musk’s motivations and “savior complex”
• [07:23] – Moral philosophy & the purpose of power
• [09:10] – Musk’s influence likened to ancient dynasties
• [10:28] – Tesla owner’s experience and optimism
• [11:56] – Musk’s ardent fans and “GOAT” status
• [13:44] – Mars, motivations, and Space Roadster anecdotes
• [15:10] – Listeners fence-sit: complex legacy
• [16:43] – Billionaire dog vs. cat debate

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Tone & Language

The tone remains energetic, conversational, witty, and inviting, true to the rapport between Simon Jack and Zing Tsjeng, while offering a wide sample of listener voices that range from critical to effusive, philosophical to playful.

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For Further Listening/Contact

• Email feedback: [e-mail]
• WhatsApp/Text: [phone]

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A must-listen for anyone curious about how wealth, personality, and power collide in the persona of the world’s most discussed billionaire.

Transcript

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Welcome to Good Bad billionaire from the BBC World Service. I'm Simon Jack, I'm the BBC's business.

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Editor and I'm Sing Seng and I'm a journalist, author and podcaster.

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Each episode we pick a billionaire and we find out how they made their money.

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We take them from zero to their first million, then from a million onto a billion.

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But we're going to be doing things a little bit differently in this very special feedback episode on the richest person on the planet, Elon Musk.

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If you haven't listened to that episode yet and it's a doozy, go back now and give it a listen. We put it out just before Christmas.

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We discussed Elon's extraordinary rise from a troubled childhood in apartheid era South Africa to becoming the first person to amass half a trillion doll.

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We looked at how he used a windfall from the tech giant PayPal to revolutionize electric cars at Tesla and launch rockets at SpaceX. But becoming the richest person in the world came with plenty of boardroom drama and controversy.

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So we asked you to get in touch and tell us what you thought after listening to our episode. Do you think he's good, bad or just another billionaire?

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And we were so happy to see how many of you enjoyed the episode and got in touch. And we are excited to share your Thoughts on Elon Musk.

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So let us start with JC who emailed us. Hi there friends. Excellent program about Elon Musk. Really interesting to know about his origin and life. Hugs from Havana, Cuba.

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I think that is probably the most glamorous place anybody has emailed us from.

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Yeah, we've also heard from listeners from where Elon grew up, South Africa. Summer fans. Andre from Cape Town says hi there. I enjoyed your Elon podcast muchly. As for the man Elon Musk, I believe that no single person on this planet has done more to get mankind away from incredibly damaging fossil fuel vehicles and into clean energy transport. No small thing.

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While others think Elon is not so brilliant like Brilliante from South Africa who sent us a WhatsApp to say hey good bad billionaire team brackets incoming hot take. I have had it when it comes to billionaires going into politics and ruining our lives, especially when it comes to Elon Musk. Later Brilliante says, I don't even think a billionaire or millionaire should meddle in politics. How are they even qualified?

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And quite a few of you pointed to what he's done environmentally as evidence that Elon is a good billionaire billionaire. We got a text which had no name Elon Musk is a good billionaire, a positive force because his companies aim to solve large scale problems. He accelerated the adoption of electric cars, contributing to lower emissions worldwide. Starlink has brought reliable Internet to remote regions, improving access to information and opportunity through SpaceX. He's driven down the cost of space travel and advanced global space capabilities. Known for his direct communication style and resilient background, he has channeled his ambition into technologies that significantly benefit mankind.

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More direct communication style is definitely one way of putting it, but I've also got someone from my past who has emailed Andy from the uk. Thank you for making the Elon Musk episode. I really enjoyed it. Zing. I first became aware of Elon when you and I were both students at Emmanuel College, my university in Musk's make or break year 2008. Well Andy, if this is the same Andy that I'm thinking about, I think you were an engineer, weren't you? So clearly you know Elon. An engineer at heart. I first heard about his crazy rocket project and actually watched the webcast of the successful fourth launch attempt of the original Falcon 1 rocket. After the first three failures, I was hooked from then on, following the twists and turns of his various enterprises which seemed like they might change the world. But Andy goes on to say the incident of the trapped Thai divers was when I started to understand what a jerk Musk can be. And I don't align with his recent politics, but overall I'd still have to call him a good billionaire because I think he's accelerated some much needed technological change and ultimately tech shapes our world. I guess that's the engineering student in me.

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You're right.

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I was right. I really enjoyed listening to your fantastic podcast. Keep it up. And Andy, I hope you're an engineer.

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Still blasts from the past for Sing There. Some of you though, disagree with that conclusion and question Elon Musk's vision for the future. Dr. Eleanor, British by birth but longtime Dutch resident, begins by saying I'm not a fan of billionaires. I fall into the camp of thinking that regulation has gone wrong when someone can amass that much wealth. But Dr. Eleanor thought our episode was not critical enough of Elon Musk. She on to say, since you did ask for audience opinion, we did. I'm no doubt biased. As someone with a connection to the academic side of space, I have a PhD in astronomy and personal connections to people working in clean space, the field involved in trying to avoid the Earth's orbit becoming unusable.

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I didn't know this was happening.

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What that means lots too much space junk. Too much stuff actually in orbit.

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Oh, okay, right. I thought for a second Earth's orbit was kind of not working right and we were all gonna fall off.

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It's full of bits and bobs. Anyway, she goes on to say with that context, he's definitely very bad. In my opinion, he's becoming emblematic of some of the worst excesses of the move fast and break things culture. Something said by Mark Zuckerberg once upon a time. Famously, it's also maddening. Dr. Elena says, as someone with a passing understanding of the challenges that would be represented by keeping people alive on Mars, to see his determination to see a colony on Mars as inspiring rather than delusional. To put it another way, he frames his ambitions as on expanding and saving humanity, but he neglects the fact that he actually has the resources to do things to address actual serious challenges that humanity is facing now, like famine and cl. I suspect he cares less about saving the world than the fact of being the one who does the saving. Dr. Yeah, Dr. Ellenner, thank you for that.

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What does Elon Musk have a savior complex? Discuss. Chris also shared a similar view to Dr. Eleanor. First, thanks to a very amusing and fact filled episode, my rating of Musk Bad. I'll use one of his obsessions to go to Mars. This is in no way to save humanity. At the best estimate, Mars could support less than 1% of the current human population. It's just another variant of west coast survivalism. Screw every everyone else. I'm going to survive. Chris actually uses a different word there, but as we're a family show, we'll leave that to your imagination.

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Some of you recognize Elon's achievements as a businessman, but would put him in the bad billionaire category for other reasons. Philippa sent us a WhatsApp and included info that she's age 60, Portuguese by birth and German by marriage. She says thanks for today's entertainment and thought provoking addition. It was the perfect companion to peeling almonds in the kitchen. You peel your almonds Anyway. To me, Musk is a bad billionaire. Though a few of his actions may have good results. Morally speaking, it is intentions that count and the way he treats people. As a philosophy graduate, I believe in the ancient Greek idea of kalos kagathos meaning good and beautiful are inseparable. To sum it up, I think the purpose of power is goodness and I see no goodness in Musk's overpowering power.

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That is maybe the most highbrow reference that we've ever had on good bad billionaire. So thank you Philippa. Well, James emailed. He's a good businessman, but a terrible human being in my opinion. What's the point in having so much money if your legacy is so poor? I think with great wealth comes great responsibility. If you can't find a way to do good with your money and leave the world a better place, you're basically a bad person. Love the show and your analysis. Thanks James. Thank you James.

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Ann says, I've just been listening to the latest episode and I listen to all of them. I'm distressed that we continue to allow a handful of people to disseminate so much influence over the global population. I'm almost ashamed to admit my first thoughts about Elon was that he was an impressive force in the world. Now I think he's one of the most dangerous people in the world. We give away so much power to a handful of individuals. I genuinely despair about the direction we're going in. Really, really dismayed. It reminds me of the totalitarian leaders of ancient dynasties building rivers of mercury. Underground power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Someone else got there before me. Makes me shiver.

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Interesting aside. So if you're wondering where this underground river of Mercury reference comes from, this is actually a reference to the very first emperor of China, Qin Shi Huang, who was around in the third century B.C. right. He's the guy behind the Terracotta army. So his tomb was guarded by thousands of those warriors you might recognize. Out of respect, no one's actually excavated that actual tomb. But according to one description written by an ancient historian a century after the emperor's death, the tomb actually contains man made streams of mercury. And you know, yes indeed, analysis of the soy nearby has revealed very high levels of mercury. So something that was meant to kind of pay homage to the guy ended up poisoning the so what incredible restraint.

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Not to dig up the tomb to try and find that out. But for some listeners, Elon Musk's achievement should be weighed in favor against any controversy. Adrian from Lusaka, Zambia says, I think Elon Musk is a good billionaire. Sure, he's got his fair share of drama, but the guy's revolutionized industries. He's more than just another rich dude. Also, shout out to the Masayoshi Son episode. It's my favorite since I found your podcast last year. I honestly listen to it almost every day and learn something new each time. Who knows, maybe you'll cover me in the future up the awesome work. Well, let us know how you get on. Adrian from Lusaka, Zambia if you become a billionaire maybe we will if you.

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Become good bad billionaires. First ever actual billionaire listener. Actually do get in touch because you know, we might very well cover you well. In another email, Gary from Nevada in the United States says, I view Elon Musk as mostly a good billionaire, certainly with flaws. Like most humans I meet, Elon has tipped the scale strongly in favor of good. I drive a Tesla that I purchased two and a half years ago. One area that I think you missed was FSD full cel self driving. And Gary also goes on to argue that this feature on the Tesla might actually reduce the number of auto incidents annually. He goes on to say, I've had five to six upgrades on my Tesla since my purchase. Most were FSD related. All were done while the car was in my garage, transmitted by satellite. My car just keeps getting better and better. Gary also says, obviously if it's planned to create driverless taxis as a dollar a mile with no driver tip expected happens in the next three years, far fewer cars will be needed. And this is where gas cars will really become something of the past. The air pollution savings alone should get Elon a 10 in almost all areas. I don't have the stats on pollution, illnesses and deaths, but it likely exceeds that of car wrecks. And don't be surprised when Elon combines SpaceX with his solar company to put orbiting solar panels in space. They may direct power directly to large AI centers and solve the potential power crisis expected in the coming years. To me, there's Elon at the top and every other billionaire in the minor leagues looking up. So Gary, really coming in with the 10 year plan for Elon?

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I wonder, Gary, do you work for him? Though others of you are also massive Elon fans. Kai emailed us. Elon Musk is one of the most inspirational business leaders in the world. He's saving humanity, exclamation mark with electric cars and space travel. He's one of my heroes. He has liked some of my comments on Facebook. He's a great billionaire. As a business owner myself, I love listening to Good Bad Billionaire. You're giving me a first class business education.

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Well, Kai, you're officially in competition with Adrian from Zambia to become our first billionaire on Good Bad Billionaire.

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And we got a WhatsApp from someone in the UK. They didn't include their name, but they did include a goat emoji. Couldn't have waited more for this episode. I think Elon is the goat. Undoubtedly goat, I think meaning greatest of all time.

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Very good, Simon. You knew that. I mean, you're so patronizing.

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I love it when you do that.

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Hey, you know, I still remember how having to explain what was it? Yolo.

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Yolo. You only live once. I remember.

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Yeah, we should do a good Bad Billionaire pub quiz where you test me on economics and I test you on pop culture phrases. Okay, we'll save that for the Christmas episode. Some of you are trying to understand what motivates Elon. Janelle from Nigeria says, I absolutely love this podcast and I hope you stay on long enough to feature my story winking emoji. Well, Janelle, I think there's you've got two competitors now trying to say that they're going to be the first listener to appear on Good Bad Billionaire. Elon, Janelle says, is definitely a bad billionaire. I've always thought he was someone who struggled with self esteem and his background kind of confirms it. I think he's trying so hard to be a bad guy to get attention. I'd have said just another billionaire. But sexual harassment isn't something to take lightly amongst other controversies. So he is definitely a bad guy. Now at this point we should remind listeners he denies all sexual harassment on misconduct claims. So you can listen to our episode for more details on that.

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And Stephen from the UK began his email. Love the show. It's fascinating and horrific in equal measure. But Steven suggests A possible theory as to why Elon Musk tweeted about taking Tesla private for $420 a share, which many people speculated was a reference to marijuana. Steven says one of his favorite books is Douglas Adams the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, but Musk appears not to have realized that it is a satire. By the way, 42 was the meaning of Life, the universe and everything from those very books. Another reason for $420. By the way, the Tesla Roadster was based on a Lotus Elise built in Norfolk, uk. It's now the fastest car ever. Norfolk. Thank you very much Stephen. He also included a link to a website which is tracking Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster that was launched into space. I remember that the website says its location is currently 188,363,850 miles from Earth, moving away from Earth at a speed of 6,300 miles an hour. So in that sense it's the fastest car ever.

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Imagine being an alien and coming across a Tesla Roadster in the depths of space. You'd be so confused. Now for some of you, you can't decide if Elon is a good or bad billionaire. Robert from Montreal, Canada says, great series, original concept. Enjoy listening to the podcasts immensely. Thank you Robert. Regrettably, you are not going to do a podcast regarding myself because I am not even close to being a billionaire. You and I both, Robert. As for Elon Musk, certainly I can't imagine anyone claiming he falls into the category of just another billionaire. He's certainly a complex individual and not one dimensional. Most historical figures in history I am not referring to people like Stalin or Hitler are quite complex with many good and bad attributes as to what they've done. In this case I would categorize Elon Musk as a good slash bad billionaire.

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Okay, some great fence sitting there, but I appreciate those comments Robert. Daniel says hi guys. I hope you're both doing super well. We are, thank you Daniel. I wanted to send this email to tell you guys how much I love the podcast. I've listened to every single episode and thoroughly enjoy them all. I'm from South Africa so thought it would be the perfect episode to send my review. I personally think Elon can be described as an extremely intelligent billionaire, but whether or not he's good or bad is yet to be determined. What he's done for promotion of environmental sustainability is awesome, but some of his political views and controversial takes can be seen as negative. I also feel as a South African, he could have done a bit more in terms of bolstering our economy. I do think he has the potential to be a good billionaire if he focuses on his original goal and that is bettering the environment. But that is just my take. Anyway, I love you guys. Keep up the great work and I'm looking forward to the next episode. Thank you very much, Daniel.

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I love that there was a strong South African contingent coming out here with views on Elon Musk.

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Good.

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And finally, you'll remember that at the end of the Elon episode we included some feedback. A listener's dog suggested we check up which billionaires are dog lovers. Well, another listener, Tony, has got in touch to say Oprah Winfrey is a billionaire dog lover.

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You have to do a bit more work on this to try and figure out if there's any trend that we can spot if dog ownership amongst our billionaires.

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I think dogs versus Cats. Cats. How many billionaires own cats versus dogs? That's a good one.

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Well, listen, thank you to everyone who got in touch. Amazing response, really thoughtful replies as well to all of those things. I'm afraid we couldn't include them all. We've given you a smattering of them there. But please keep sending in your feedback. Email good bad billionairebc.com or drop us.

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A text on WhatsApp to 0019176861176 and tell us what you think.

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And don't forget to include your name as we may read out your message on a future episode. And after that lot we may even feature somebody if they billion in the next few years when we will hopefully still be going.

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Good Bad Billionaire is a BBC World Service podcast produced by Hannah Hufford. The editor is Paul Smith and it's a BBC Studios production for the BBC World Service. The senior commissioning producer is Sarah Green and the commissioning editor is John Manelle.

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