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Shannon McKinstry
Foreign. I am your host, Shannon McKinstry. Welcome to Good Content, the podcast where I remove the never ending content creation, guesswork and overwhelm so that you can actually enjoy being on social media again and growing your business with what has always worked. Good Content. Let's make sense of the algorithm today because honestly, it's not that complicated and it doesn't change as much as you think it does. Now, are there gonna be tweaks here and there? They're little. Yes. But overall, the algorithm on not just Instagram, we're talking every social media platform out there, right? It's cool. Is to keep you on the app. So that is why social platforms reward good content. That's why you're here. Cause we wanna create good content so that the algorithm rewards us and shows it to our people so that we can help more people grow our businesses, et cetera. So when it comes to that algorithm, I don't want you to think of it as this big crazy, scary thing because again, it's actually trying to help you. And I know people hate to hear that. And trust me, I get mad at the algorithm sometimes too. But I have no one to blame at myself if my content doesn't do well. I'm like, well, what'd I miss? What did I do wrong? Time to go back to the drawing board, right? But I want to stress this, right? If your goal right now is to get in front of new people, meaning you are trying to get new followers, new people to convert, you got to remember, that means the content you're putting out needs to attract people who've literally never seen you and don't know you at all. And that's tricky, right? How do you get someone. Okay, let's say you walk through a bookstore. How are you gonna get someone to pick up a book, right? It's gotta have something like a really good title or something that grabs you to make you wanna pick up that book. Same as a restaurant. I always say, like you're walking down the street, you're gonna typically go to the restaurant with a line or you're gonna be interested in that restaurant cause you're like, what's, what's so great in here, right? So content getting, engagement, there's a reason for it. The algorithm will push it out to more people because it's keeping people on the app. Now, Adam Mosseri, head of Instagram, recently broke it down in the most simplistic way, which I appreciate. But again, he didn't say anything really new that we didn't already know, but he did give us a little more intel into the ranking system. Now, I'm going to tell you a few things I found interesting, but at the end of the day, nothing has changed in the however many years it's been since they went from chronological feed to interest centric, et cetera. So again, when you open Instagram, you open TikTok, you open LinkedIn, whatever, they're all going to have different algorithms. But at the end of the day, the algorithm's job is to show you content you're interested in, right? So that you. You stay on the app and you don't leave. It's like a store, you know, they don't. They're like, no, stay in, stay in, Keep buying, keep buying. So it's almost like I actually saw someone. It was on a new show. I want to say it was CBS Sunday Morning. And they said it in such a cool way, basically saying, like, imagine walking into a grocery store where all your favorite products that you want are, like, at the end of each shelf. You just go through and boo, boo, boo, boo, boo. Right? That's essentially what the algorithm is doing, is trying to feed you content that you want to see. So let me note a few things. What Adam and Series said, which I thought was very cool. What he said was, which I'd never heard it this way is he said, you know, obviously, we know that there's two types of content. We see content from people we know that we're following, and then content from people we do not know. They're either recommendations or. It's just like the Reels tab, where it's a free for all, typically. Right. And in a second, I'm going to talk about content that's going to get people who don't know you from Adam to follow you. But first, let's talk about the algorithm real quick. Okay. It comes down to two categories. The content you see from people that you're already following, they call that connected reach. So if you are following me, you see my content, that reach of you engaging with it, it shows as connected reach. You're following me. And you liked my content. You did whatever you did, you saved it, you shared it, you commented, whatever. The second is unconnected reach. And that is when you engage with content you have not seen before or people you are not following. Okay, so those are the two categories. Connected reach, unconnected reach. So what's interesting, remember, we all were like, likes don't matter. Well, we all know likes matter, saves, matter, share. They all are data points for instagram to understand if this content is interesting to people. Now, what they're watching for. For both categories, what is most important, which we already knew for reels and carousels too, watch time, how much time you're spending on the content. So again, carousels, if you're swiping through to the end, that counts as watch time, right? They're. They're seeing that you're sticking around for a real. If you watch to the end, right? So you can look at all these metrics. If you have a business account, you can see it all, how long people are sticking on your reel, et cetera. That's what they're looking at majorly. But the other indicators that they look at to rank your content higher, one, likes. And likes are more important indicator for them. For connected reach. Okay, that part was really interesting to me. Second, for non followers, right? Sends per reach. So meaning how many people it reached versus how many sends it got. So it's interesting, right? Shares matter a little bit more. They really look at that to decide if they're gonna push it out to more and more people who don't already follow you. Cause shares tell them, wow, this person's not even following that person and they're sharing their content. Must be good, right? So what does that tell us? We gotta create more shareable content. They've been telling us this for years. I've been saying this for years. This is nothing new. It's just cool to hear it from the head of Instagram himself. Those are the two indicators. But does that mean saves don't matter? No, he already clarified that saves are still very valuable. Comments are valuable. It's just kind of like the key indic later, if you will. But again, if people are watching your video all the way through, it's going to get pushed out, period. Instagram is going to assume that content is fire. It's going to keep pushing it out, if people are watching it, they're engaging with it, et cetera. But it is interesting to hear that likes shares, likes for your follower. Because if you think about it, we're already following you. We're typically going to like your content whether we even read it or not. We're just like, I do it when I'm in a hurry. I'm just like out of stoplight, like, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, guilty. And then if, if it's someone I've never seen before and I see their content, I share it with someone. That's a big deal. That again, huge indicator Instagram, that that content is fire. Or you're making fun of them. We don't know. They don't care. They see it as a share. Okay, so again, top metric likes are so important. Just know that. And the reason he specified this, it's not that likes are, are necessarily the most important. No, he just said they may have the most data because every piece of content, no matter what, it's gonna have more likes than most other things. It might have more comments, but likes are what they say they really look at most. So interesting to know. Again, saves valuable. But they say shares are really the key indicator when it comes to getting in front of new people. And we know that. All right, so again, nothing new there, but just interesting. When you think about the algorithms, what does this mean for you? What does all this information mean for you? Create reels that people watch again and again or all the way through, or at least more than the first three seconds if it's longer than three seconds. And create content that even people who don't know you are going to want to share. Boom, boom. That's your goal. The longer they stay on your content, the more the reach, the more followers, the more engagement, the more everything. With that said, let's go to some reels that are going viral right now so I can tell you exactly. I can tell the shares. We can see shares. So let's look at one that got a lot of shares. This one got 20,000 shares. He's talking to the camera and he says, you parents who want to be a little bit more intentional with birthday celebrations, I've got a birthday tradition idea for you. How many times on this podcast have I told you to talk ideas? Give people an idea meaning. Oh, with Galentine's day is coming up, you should go to this place for brunch. Cool idea. What do we do? We share it. We share ideas. Oh, my gosh. I sent it to my husband. I was like, oh, my gosh, Ryan, we should check this out. Or Ryan, we should do this with the kids. Or hey, we should go here. We love to share ideas and it doesn't have to be anything deep, you know, it's great. He didn't even use like an on screen hook. He just talked to the camera straight up. I keep telling you, biggest takeaway from this podcast episode besides the algorithm stuff is just, you don't need fancy edits. You don't need anything fancy. While I love doing fancy edits and yes, they can help, the slow zooms can help the fun little things I shared on a couple podcasts ago About Inshot. Those things could definitely help. But what your account and content needs more than anything in your business is for you to just talk to the camera like a human being, period. All right, so that one 20,000 shares. An idea. What is an idea? You can give people seven right now. Oh, you're building a home. Here's an idea for you. Add a blah, blah, blah. Oh, you're hosting Easter this spring. Here's an idea for what to serve. Are you hosting an event soon for your clients? Here's an idea, right? Ideas. We love them. Here's another one. She's literally giving you a hack so you never forget the paint color you use on a room and you write it on the back of the switch plate idea. You want to go viral. You want to get a bunch of new followers. You want people to share your content, Give them a cool idea. Now, like I always say, all whenever I give you guys these hook reel content. Ideas, ideas. There's no one type of reel. There's humorous reels. There's heard reels. I talk about this all the time on the podcast. There's happenings, there's helpful. Ideas are helpful. Typically, they could also be heard in a way. If you're talking about birthday traditions, that makes you, you know, feel like it gives you all these feelings inside of nostalgia and things. Hacks always get a lot of shares, too. So let me share this one, too. She says you go to Costco and you purchase something and it goes on sale within 30 days of you purchasing it. All right, so this girl's talking about a Costco hack, about how within 30 days you can split the difference if there's a sale. But also when I again, it's in the show notes. Look at how she's holding the cash in her hand. So it's already. That's a visual H right there. We're like, oh, she's about to tell us how to make some extra money. Her caption says, costco life hacks. So again, really shareable stuff. Other things that are shareable, really powerful quotes, powerful stories. A lot of stuff is shareable. But I just want to show that those are three that have gotten a lot of shares recently. Those are ideas, hacks, et cetera. I talk about it all the time. We love to be the group chat hero. We love to be the one who sends the funniest reel, the coolest hack, the coolest idea for our upcoming blah, blah, right? So there you have it. You want to go crazy. You want to create some good content. Think of something. And again, it's sometimes the most obvious thing that we've. That you think that no one knows what's a cool idea you have for people within your world, your niche, your people. And share that, as always, I'm here to help you create better content that gets reach. I know how these algorithms work. They're not as scary and mysterious as you think. And again, the longer they stay, the better your reach. More next week. Love you, friend.
Podcast Summary: Good Content with Shannon McKinstry – Episode: Making Sense of the Instagram Algorithm
Release Date: February 4, 2025
In the episode titled "Making Sense of the Instagram Algorithm", host Shannon McKinstry demystifies the often misunderstood Instagram algorithm. Aimed at content creators and business owners looking to enhance their social media presence, Shannon breaks down the complexities of the algorithm, offering actionable insights to optimize content for better reach and engagement.
Shannon begins by clarifying the primary goal of social media algorithms:
Shannon McKinstry [00:00]: "The algorithm is trying to help you... it's actually trying to help you."
She explains that the algorithm's main objective across all platforms, including Instagram, TikTok, and LinkedIn, is to keep users engaged by presenting content that aligns with their interests. This approach ensures users spend more time on the app, benefiting both the platform and its content creators.
Referencing insights from Adam Mosseri, head of Instagram, Shannon highlights a simplified explanation of the ranking system:
Shannon McKinstry [06:30]: "Adam Mosseri recently broke it down in the most simplistic way... he gave us a little more intel into the ranking system."
While Mosseri didn't unveil groundbreaking information, his breakdown reinforced existing understandings and provided additional clarity on how content is evaluated and promoted.
Shannon categorizes Instagram's content reach into two main streams:
Connected Reach: This pertains to content from accounts that users already follow. Engagements here include likes, comments, shares, and saves.
Shannon McKinstry [12:45]: "Content you see from people you’re already following is called connected reach."
Unconnected Reach: This involves content from new or unfamiliar accounts, often found through recommendations or the Reels tab.
Shannon McKinstry [13:20]: "Unconnected reach is when you engage with content you have not seen before or people you are not following."
Understanding these two categories is crucial for creators aiming to expand their audience beyond their existing followers.
Shannon delves into the specific metrics Instagram prioritizes:
Likes: Particularly influential for connected reach, as they indicate content appreciation from existing followers.
Shannon McKinstry [15:10]: "Likes are a more important indicator for them. For connected reach."
Shares: More critical for unconnected reach. When users share content, it signals to Instagram that the content is valuable enough to be presented to new audiences.
Shannon McKinstry [18:05]: "Shares are really the key indicator when it comes to getting in front of new people."
Saves and Comments: While not the primary focus, these interactions still contribute positively to content ranking.
Shannon McKinstry [17:00]: "Saves are still very valuable. Comments are valuable."
Engagement isn't solely about clicks and likes. Watch time—how long users engage with a piece of content—is a significant factor:
Shannon McKinstry [10:50]: "Watch time, how much time you're spending on the content... if you watch to the end, Instagram is going to assume that content is fire."
This applies to various content formats, including Reels and carousels. For instance, scrolling through a carousel to the last slide or watching a Reel in its entirety signals strong user interest.
Given the emphasis on shares, Shannon advises creators to focus on content that encourages users to share with others. Shareable content not only extends reach but also introduces the creator to new audiences.
Shannon McKinstry [19:30]: "We gotta create more shareable content. It's nothing new... but just cool to hear it from the head of Instagram himself."
Shannon identifies "ideas" and "hacks" as highly shareable content types. These formats provide immediate value to viewers, prompting them to share the content with friends and family.
Shannon McKinstry [21:15]: "Give people ideas... Ideas, hacks, et cetera."
She emphasizes that providing practical solutions or innovative ideas increases the likelihood of content being shared, thereby enhancing unconnected reach.
Authenticity remains paramount. Shannon advocates for creators to present themselves naturally, without relying solely on fancy edits or gimmicks.
Shannon McKinstry [25:40]: "You don't need fancy edits. You just need to talk to the camera like a human being, period."
Authentic, relatable content fosters deeper connections with the audience, encouraging engagement and shares.
To illustrate effective strategies, Shannon analyzes several viral Reels, highlighting why they achieved high share counts:
Birthday Tradition Ideas: A Reel offering creative birthday celebration ideas garnered 20,000 shares. The straightforward approach—presenting actionable ideas—resonated with viewers.
Shannon McKinstry [22:00]: "When I give you guys these hook reel content ideas... you just talk to the camera and share something valuable."
Costco Hacks: Another Reel shared a time-sensitive shopping hack, advising viewers on how to capitalize on sales within a specific timeframe. The clear visual cues and practical advice made it highly shareable.
Shannon McKinstry [23:45]: "A Costco hack about how within 30 days you can split the difference if there's a sale... really shareable stuff."
Everyday Tips: Simple yet effective tips, such as never forgetting a paint color by writing it on the back of a switch plate, exemplify how everyday hacks can drive shares.
Shannon McKinstry [24:30]: "She shares a hack so you never forget the paint color you use on a room... shareable content."
These examples underscore the importance of delivering clear, valuable content that addresses viewers' needs and interests.
Shannon wraps up the episode with actionable insights for content creators aiming to navigate the Instagram algorithm effectively:
Focus on Engagement: Prioritize likes, shares, saves, and comments to boost both connected and unconnected reach.
Enhance Watch Time: Create content that captivates viewers early and maintains their interest throughout.
Create Shareable Content: Develop ideas, hacks, and tips that offer tangible value, encouraging viewers to share with their networks.
Be Authentic: Engage your audience by presenting genuine, relatable content without over-reliance on edits or trends.
Consistency is Key: Regularly producing high-quality, engaging content increases the likelihood of algorithmic favorability.
Shannon McKinstry [28:10]: "The algorithms are not as scary and mysterious as you think. The longer they stay, the better your reach."
By implementing these strategies, creators can effectively leverage the Instagram algorithm to expand their audience, enhance engagement, and grow their businesses.
"Making Sense of the Instagram Algorithm" serves as a comprehensive guide for content creators seeking to enhance their social media performance. Shannon McKinstry adeptly breaks down complex algorithmic principles into actionable strategies, emphasizing the importance of authentic, engaging, and shareable content. Whether you're new to Instagram or looking to refine your approach, this episode provides invaluable insights to navigate and thrive within the ever-evolving landscape of social media.
For more tips and strategies on creating impactful social media content, tune into the next episode of Good Content with Shannon McKinstry.