ANDREW HUBERMAN and CHRIS COLE | Good For You Podcast with Whitney Cummings | EP 269

Summary

Podcast Summary: Good For You – Episode 269 with Andrew Huberman and Chris Cole

In Episode 269 of Good For You, host Whitney Cummings engages in a lively and candid conversation with comedians and guests Chris Cole and Andrew Huberman. The episode delves into a variety of topics ranging from skepticism about historical events and celebrity critiques to personal habits and New Year's resolutions. Below is a detailed summary capturing the essence of their discussions, enriched with notable quotes and relevant timestamps.

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I. Welcome and Initial Banter ([00:00] - [05:00])

Whitney opens the episode with infectious energy, praising Chris Cole's performance in the previous episode and humorously suggesting their on-screen chemistry is unbreakable.

Whitney Cummings ([00:00]): "At this point, I don't think we could even break up if we wanted to."

Chris reciprocates the enthusiasm, setting a playful tone for the conversation.

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II. Conspiracy Theories and "Old Wives' Tales" ([05:00] - [12:00])

The discussion shifts to skepticism about significant historical events, notably the moon landing, which Whitney humorously doubts was genuine.

Whitney Cummings ([00:40]): "If the moon landing was faked and staged, I am so much more impressed than if we actually went."

This skepticism segues into a critique of the term "old wives' tales," where Whitney and Chris explore its underlying connotations about women's credibility.

Whitney Cummings ([01:37]): "Why is an old wives' tale? It's like that's basically just saying women lie."

They further dissect the societal implications of such terms, touching upon themes from The Handmaid's Tale.

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III. Critique of Bob Dylan and Celebrity Personas ([12:00] - [24:00])

Whitney passionately shares her disdain for Bob Dylan's music and persona, questioning why society elevates his work despite her personal disinterest.

Whitney Cummings ([03:02]): "I'm not gonna like Bob Dylan. There is nothing you can do."

She contrasts Dylan with contemporary artists like Billie Eilish, emphasizing authenticity and reducing decision fatigue through signature styles.

Whitney Cummings ([07:29]): "Billie Eilish is brilliant... Artists should only wear one color when you're creating because it reduces decision fatigue."

Chris supports her viewpoints, adding his own preferences and insights into how public figures shape their images.

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IV. Criticism of the iCarly Documentary and Exploitation Concerns ([24:00] - [44:00])

A significant portion of the episode centers on Whitney's critical stance towards the iCarly documentary, accusing it of re-exploiting and traumatizing former child stars.

Whitney Cummings ([13:11]): "This show traumatized Amanda Bynes, traumatized all these people and you're going to air it and then embarrass them and then make money from their trauma."

She elaborates on the ethical implications of such documentaries, questioning the genuine intentions behind them and labeling them as exploitative.

Whitney Cummings ([16:23]): "Whenever someone is trying to protect children, they're just abusing them in a different way."

Chris echoes her sentiments, criticizing the monetization of trauma under the guise of activism.

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V. New Year's Resolutions and Relationship Dynamics ([44:00] - [60:00])

Whitney and Chris transition into a more personal segment, sharing their New Year's resolutions for each other. This lighthearted exchange highlights their relationship dynamics and individual quirks.

• Driving Habits: Whitney addresses Chris's driving styles, especially his tendency to point out lanes without verbal communication.

  Whitney Cummings ([33:46]): "I don’t say a word."

  Chris Cole ([34:22]): "I will work on that."

• Wardrobe Choices: They discuss the concept of a "capsule wardrobe," inspired by icons like Steve Jobs, aiming to reduce decision fatigue by limiting clothing colors.

  Whitney Cummings ([29:10]): "Artists should only wear one color when you're creating because it reduces decision fatigue."

• Journaling: Both share their struggles and intentions regarding journaling as a New Year's resolution, touching upon mental health and personal growth.

  Whitney Cummings ([57:07]): "I have a problem with… Who's the intended audience?"

  Chris Cole ([58:35]): "My New Year's resolution is to just write more."

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VI. Personal Habits and Mental Health ([60:00] - [62:31])

The conversation delves into personal habits, such as journaling and maintaining discipline, with Whitney expressing her challenges with consistency and purpose in writing.

Whitney Cummings ([57:09]): "Every time I write, I'm like, who? Like, am I a million people?"

Chris offers practical advice on limiting journaling time to enhance effectiveness without overwhelming oneself.

Chris Cole ([58:35]): "That's why you have to limit yourself to five minutes."

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VII. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts ([62:00] - [62:31])

As the episode wraps up, Whitney and Chris exchange affectionate remarks, reinforcing their camaraderie and teasing future interactions.

Whitney Cummings ([62:10]): "Love you. We miss you so much."

Chris Cole ([62:13]): "You're very welcome, babe. I love you more."

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Notable Quotes:

• Whitney on Old Wives' Tales ([01:37]): "Why is an old wives' tale? It's like that's basically just saying women lie."

• Chris on Journaling ([58:35]): "That's why you have to limit yourself to five minutes."

• Whitney on iCarly Documentary ([13:11]): "This show traumatized Amanda Bynes, traumatized all these people and you're going to air it and then embarrass them and then make money from their trauma."

• Whitney on Bob Dylan ([03:02]): "I'm not gonna like Bob Dylan. There is nothing you can do."

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Conclusion

Episode 269 of Good For You offers a blend of humor, critical analysis, and personal reflection. Whitney Cummings and her guests navigate through topics that challenge societal norms, ethical considerations in media, and the intricacies of personal growth and relationships. The episode stands out for its candidness and the seamless interplay between comedic banter and meaningful discourse, making it both entertaining and thought-provoking for listeners.

Transcript

[Whitney Cummings]

Ba ba ba. Hi, everyone. We're back with Chris Cobra Cole. You got very good feedback last episode. Really got a callback. At this point, I don't think we could even break up if we wanted to.

[Chris Cole]

That's so cool.

[Whitney Cummings]

You just test too well on the Internet.

[Chris Cole]

I test so well.

[Whitney Cummings]

What's, what's the be in my bonnet today?

[Chris Cole]

Are we going with weather? Are we going with performance?

[Whitney Cummings]

So we talked about weather. You didn't put weather in quotes. Whoa.

[Chris Cole]

I, I, I figured you would.

[Whitney Cummings]

Bill Gates weather or weather? Weather.

[Chris Cole]

I figured you would already know that the weather is being. Is it the moon landing? Is it.

[Whitney Cummings]

You didn't put that in quotes either. Okay, babe.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

If the moon landing was faked and staged, I am so much more impressed than if we actually went. You're telling me there was a Hollywood production where no one got sexually harassed and no children got trafficked? Wait, there was a Hollywood shoot?

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Where no one sued for a toxic work environment. And this was the moon landing one?

[Chris Cole]

What year was that? Was this still, Was this still around?

[Whitney Cummings]

It was, it was the good old.

[Chris Cole]

Was this still around when, like they wouldn't let women on set or hire them?

[Whitney Cummings]

Women used to be on set way more than they were now because they were editors, because editing was sewing. There were actually more women back then.

[Chris Cole]

Okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah. And then they realized know that they're. They snitch feelings.

[Chris Cole]

Well, we, we came up with this the other night. You said, why is it a wives tale? Why is it a wives tale?

[Whitney Cummings]

An old wives tale.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Why is an old wives tale? It's like that's basically just saying women lie.

[Chris Cole]

That's right.

[Whitney Cummings]

It's just like the basis of it is women lie and we go. It's like an old wives tale.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

And especially old ones.

[Chris Cole]

The old ones lie even more.

[Whitney Cummings]

But you know what? Well, they have dementia and Alzheimer's. Maybe that's not their fault. Also old wives tale. Am I the only person that in the handmaid's tale felt like there was a double entendre?

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Is that supposed to be there or is it just a coincidence?

[Chris Cole]

Her cooch poof? No, I feel like. No, I feel like you just found something.

[Whitney Cummings]

Because when you say old wives tale, I think of an old wives caboose. Really finished each other's sentences.

[Chris Cole]

Caboose.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay, if you're me, what is the B in my bonnet right now?

[Chris Cole]

We haven't told you how much we like your nails. And I love your nails, babe.

[Whitney Cummings]

I love you so much. Am I right saying that? No, I do not care. I. If I get it. If I shave my head and you don't notice, I don't care. I love you so much, babe. You do not need to guess things like that. I'm just gonna get. Are you guys done guessing not knowing me at all?

[Chris Cole]

Yes.

[Whitney Cummings]

Kay. You're not gonna make me like Bob Dylan. None of you will. There's nothing you can do. There's nothing you can say. There's no amount of movies you can make with Shimale Mallamy.

[Chris Cole]

He was great in Dune.

[Whitney Cummings]

Chimney Cricket. I'm not watching the movie about sand either. I'm just telling you, I'm not gonna like Bob Dylan. There is nothing you can do. I'm not gonna be inspired by the Stoics. And I'm not going to think Bob Dylan music is beautiful just because he smoked a thousand cigarettes a day and said some things about birds. It's not profound, it's not touching. I don't even tap my foot. I'm sure I'm wrong, by the way. I know I'm. I would like to also say a couple things I've been wrong about in 2024, because I do believe ending the year and trying to edify yourself and grow and evolve, you have to call yourself out. Right. Which is why I have all the mistakes which we will get back to in the. Thank you. So don't call me Queen. That's my other thing, you know, that I'm working on this bit. Queen is. Is not. Queen is not an earned title. I've earned what I have.

[Chris Cole]

That's fair.

[Whitney Cummings]

Queen is like you were born into it. You. You don't. You don't deserve any of this because it was just given to you by your parents.

[Chris Cole]

Can you give me some other acceptable entrepreneur, visionary, top off visionary.

[Whitney Cummings]

Look, I'm sure Bob Dylan, is he like a. Like a Lenny Bruce or something? Like a you had to be there kind of thing, you know, like Lenny Bruce. You'll watch Lenny Bruce now and people are like, well, I'm not laughing. I'm like, well, at that time in the context, like, is that how Bob Dylan is?

[Chris Cole]

I will always reserve the right to change my mind on something.

[Whitney Cummings]

Love it.

[Chris Cole]

And at some point I'll love jazz. Maybe.

[Whitney Cummings]

What if you change your mind about me?

[Chris Cole]

Can't stand jazz.

[Whitney Cummings]

You do not reserve the right to change your mind about me.

[Chris Cole]

No, no, no, not at all. That affects somebody else. Me not liking jazz, for instance. That doesn't affect anybody else. But I might like jazz at some point right now. Can't stand it. Okay. Bob Dylan. I've never liked Bob Dylan.

[Whitney Cummings]

Why not?

[Chris Cole]

It just doesn't sound great to me. And lyrical content hasn't been my strong suit as far as I like the ups and downs and the way it goes. And sometimes it speaks to me, lyrical content wise.

[Whitney Cummings]

Give me an example. Name him. Name a lyric.

[Chris Cole]

Name a lyric.

[Whitney Cummings]

I just wrote Boob Dylan. Boob Dylan. The drag queen. Boob Dylan.

[Chris Cole]

Is that a person?

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm all in. No, I just wrote Boob Dylan by accident. I accidentally made. I accidentally made him more interesting than he was.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah, like, you know, hurricane. Great lyrical comedy.

[Whitney Cummings]

You know what? That's kind of a jam. I like that song. But do I like it because it was in a movie about a boxer?

[Chris Cole]

Did I see that movie? No.

[Whitney Cummings]

I love when people interview themselves, you know? See, every time I say something I don't like, I'm gonna follow up with something I like. Did I see that movie? I didn't. Why not? I just wasn't interested. Do I need to see it? At this point, that's anyone's guess. Blowin in the wind. Is this his biggest song? How many roads must a man walk down before you come.

[Chris Cole]

Trevor Young's good. Before you set up, but Rod Stewart crushed it.

[Whitney Cummings]

Is that a song about me? How many seas must the white dove sail before she sleeps in the sand. Is this a. Is. Is he like a. Like a botanist? Is he like a zoology guy?

[Chris Cole]

He's. You know what it's like. Even if he writes great, the sound of it doesn't. Doesn't speak to me. That being said, I love tons of bad things.

[Whitney Cummings]

Are these rhetorical questions? How many years can a mountain exist before it was washed to the sea? Had this stuff not been discovered yet? So it was profound because there are answers to a lot of his questions. How many years can some people exist before they're allowed to free. I guess what he does is he writes things that are like, all great art that you can project onto. To me, this isn't very specific. It's really vague, but. And it was also before the Internet and you could project onto it. So it seems profound. It just bothers me when men say something like, kind of vaguely interesting with the tiniest bit of pathos. And we're like, he's a genius. Like, when a man's not a sociopath and he has a guitar and a stupid mustache and a beanie hat. No offense, Pat. Like, he's like a genius.

[Chris Cole]

Beanie hat.

[Whitney Cummings]

Was it because he was short, like What.

[Chris Cole]

What's the thing Short.

[Whitney Cummings]

Because here's what I'll say. Okay, Billie Eilish is brilliant. I'm a huge fan. But a big part of her allure is that she doesn't dress like a thirsty thought who's like Betty Boop for no reason when she's 15. We were like, oh, she dresses like Adam Sandler. This. This is interesting. You know what I mean?

[Chris Cole]

She was, like, playing a pickup game.

[Whitney Cummings]

She's dressed like you. Yeah. And there was so. So not only was she brilliant, but I had an in where I was like, oh, was Bob Dylan at the time? Like, no other guys doing that mustache? Like, what was the. Like, whoa, who's this guy? When he walked in.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah, I think. I think certain people are just born with it. Like, the mysterious. Like, yeah, he's kind of an asshole, but, like, he's an asshole in a way that makes me want to know more.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like a Rolling Stone. That's a big one. Once upon a time, you dress so fine.

[Chris Cole]

I think he's got tons of. He's got tons of hits that Stewart can do better.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay, You've gone to the finest school. All right, Miss Lonely. Oh, zing.

[Chris Cole]

I did, however, have this conversation with Davo.

[Whitney Cummings]

Am I dumb? Am I dumb?

[Chris Cole]

Just a minute ago that.

[Whitney Cummings]

I don't get it. Why don't I get it?

[Chris Cole]

Reserve the right now so that you can get it later, okay? Just make sure you.

[Whitney Cummings]

What?

[Chris Cole]

Just reserve the spot to get it at some point. Sometimes you take it. I love you. Hey, guys, I have a bee in my bonnet and it's with me. I love Bob Dylan now. You know, I might happen.

[Whitney Cummings]

I might. I've definitely changed my mind on big things like, that's not the Beatles yet. I'm going to watch the documentary, though, when I have a second, because I must be wrong if everyone else loves it. But I also like to be the person who goes, are we all just pretending we like this because we're embarrassed that, like, we don't want to seem like we're stupid?

[Chris Cole]

There's a lot of people doing that, you know?

[Whitney Cummings]

That's my thing, though. My thing is always, like, literally, you know, I grew up in alcoholic home, elephant in the room. Like, I don't like. I just want everyone to know they have permission to not like Bob Dylan if they want to not like Bob Dylan. You're not dumb. It's like the David lynch thing. Robin's like, he's such a genius. I'm like, tell me what the movie meant. Tell me what the movie meant. Explain it to me. You have no idea what you're saying. He's pranking you.

[Chris Cole]

But if somebody wants to explain it to me, I would love to hear it the same.

[Whitney Cummings]

No one can. I haven't met someone yet. Pat, Pat, Pat.

[Chris Cole]

Smash that subscribe button.

[Whitney Cummings]

Don't do any of those things, okay? We don't do followers or viewers. Yes, sir. There were. There were so few records back then, okay.

[Chris Cole]

When they were creating these legends.

[Whitney Cummings]

So you're telling me he's big because there were so few people doing it, that the bar was so low? And this is why I made it as a female comic, because there were so few of us. Am I the Bob Dylan of comedy? You literally just described women in comedy. When I started, there were so few that if you just got on stage and said anything, you could get a career.

[Chris Cole]

The God.

[Whitney Cummings]

Now I know why I hate Bob Dylan so much.

[Chris Cole]

Well, I think when Bob Dylan was doing that poetry, it was like the other thing on the radio at that moment was like.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm into that. I like what you just said.

[Chris Cole]

And that song rocks, because here's what I'm saying.

[Whitney Cummings]

I just. Yeah, I don't like pretending, you know, that that's my biggest thing. I don't like being suffocated by needing to pretend. And I lost my train of thought on the other thing because Ian Finance is. I just. Is our backdrop. And it's so funny to me. Yeah.

[Chris Cole]

How do we land on that?

[Whitney Cummings]

Now? Here's what I'll say. The Bob Dylan movie. I know you guys are put. You're pushing it on me. I did laugh out loud at the trailer numerous times. If I can approach this movie as a comedy, I'm in. I cannot. I cringe. I cannot. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm literally gonna sweat out my nipples if I. A moment where a man in a movie who is always like, the James Gandolfini type, it's like the. The Paul Giamatti type. The record label guy, like, finds a journal with scribbles on it. That is like the black crow saw. You know, flies sees its shadow. And someone's like, who wrote this? Who wrote this? Find him now. Sign him. And you're like, am I supposed to believe? Like, dude, why don't you just take credit for it? Isn't that what you guys did back then? Anyway? Find this genius. It's the equivalent of finding a knock.

[Chris Cole]

Knock joke written on a Napkin in the 50s.

[Whitney Cummings]

It's exactly what it is. That's Exactly.

[Chris Cole]

It's also funny too, because they're. They're like, they're trying to find him. And that's the whole thing. Find this guy.

[Whitney Cummings]

Or the idea that you have an invention, right? Like if I steal your invention or your. Let's say your Shakespeare and I take it, then I'm like, ah, I'm gonna take all the credit. And someone's like, write another one. And I'm like, shit, I'd have to keep you hostage in the basement.

[Chris Cole]

You know, Might be how it works.

[Whitney Cummings]

So funny to me, the idea of someone being like, haha, I'm gonna kill this person. Like, take over there, take credit. And then they have to keep.

[Chris Cole]

And then they break the first light bulb and they're like, ah, shit, yeah, can you make another one?

[Whitney Cummings]

The idea that they're like, they're like, oh, this isn't that hard. I'm gonna take credit for it. And they break it and they can't put it back together. Like, you know, Edison was a. You guys, I am trying to figure out what he did and it is so hard. I really regret smashing him in the face with an.

[Chris Cole]

We have to find the people who did this.

[Whitney Cummings]

Whoever murdered this man.

[Chris Cole]

And they're like, I've created a charity to find this person, guys.

[Whitney Cummings]

This guy. I. Yeah, we have to find the person.

[Chris Cole]

Clean the streets up.

[Whitney Cummings]

We have to find the person who did this. We can't because it's dark out and there's no lights.

[Chris Cole]

The Edison curse.

[Whitney Cummings]

We could find the person who did this if only there was illumination in the street. Look, I'm open to the. I say it all the time. Whatever we resist most. I'm sure next year I'll have a Bob Dylan tattoo. You know me, I go for it.

[Chris Cole]

I don't know if I can help it.

[Whitney Cummings]

Huh?

[Chris Cole]

I will try my best.

[Whitney Cummings]

There's something about this that. That grinds my gears. I just wanted to. Before we go into. Babe and I are going to do New Year's resolutions for each other that we don't know he's going to get. This is a. I like to find subtle ways we can criticize each other that aren't toxic.

[Chris Cole]

It's like talking through a baby. Like, did mom not pack your diaper bag?

[Whitney Cummings]

That's right. That's right.

[Chris Cole]

Like, did you know?

[Whitney Cummings]

She's like, I know. Did Daddy not feed you because he's too busy on his phone again? Like we do with dogs too. The way we. Like passive aggressively.

[Chris Cole]

By we, we mean everybody else.

[Whitney Cummings]

Everybody does this. I Need to get something off my chest again. Another thing, my chest is just chock full of resentments. Today I have had a change of heart with the icarly documentary. Remember? Yeah, the icarly documentary. The Nickelodeon takedown documentary.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

I've had a change of heart about it and I think whoever made it is sick. I think it was messed up. I took so much like, I mean, I watched it as fast as anybody else, but like the idea that. And I, I think I messed up being so supportive of it because the idea of like this production exploited children, abused children and showed these scenes of young girls holding potatoes and Ariana Grande and all this stuff. And I don't want to do the exact thing they did. So I'm going to make this brief. So we're gonna show those scenes again right now without their permission and re exploit them and show you how disgusting Nickelodeon was or Dan Schneider, Nickelodeon or not. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I took the bait. I'm sorry. I mad at myself. Shame on you. Icarly documentary. Like that's the thing. And Justin Baldoni is, is. Don't get me started. Adjustable Donnie. I'm happy to. This guy. Anytime someone is going on and on about how good of a person they are, how they're uncovering the truth, how they're trying to protect children, how they're trying to stand up for these, just do it and don't film it. Stop filming it. Ariana Grande did not agree to be in that movie. Sorry. The documentary. I seeing Amanda Bynes on social media right now. Everyone's on notice. I have added her to my list. Shirley Temple. Now Amanda mines. Get ready, get ready. Okay. I got my mind set on you. Okay. And watching that made me be like, hold on. So this show traumatized Amanda Bynes, traumatized all these people and you're going to air it and then embarrass them and then make money from their trauma and. And then seem like a hero at the end. I would rather watch a Bob Dylan documentary than your fake heroic, self righteous nonsense where you're pretending to protect children and pretending that you're better than the person who aired the scene of the teenager being sexual. When you did the same thing 10, 20 years later when maybe they finally were able to escape that nightmare, you're gonna kick it up again and make it their number one Google search and exploit them again. It's even worse when it's under the guise of being some kind of hero activist. At least the, the pervert was sick at Least he was like, I'm a monster. Yeah, that's what I do. Yeah, you're gonna try to, like, get an award for this movie.

[Chris Cole]

That being said, you are gonna speak right now.

[Whitney Cummings]

I watched it. Yeah, I did.

[Chris Cole]

But not the Bob Dylan. Murphy.

[Whitney Cummings]

This was the year that a lot of creeps pretended they were good people by revealing other creeps.

[Chris Cole]

Right.

[Whitney Cummings]

But you did the same thing and it's almost grosser because you pretended to be a hero about it. You patted yourself on the back after. So Ariana Grande was a teenager when she did some scene that was really upsetting and kind of sexualized her. Right? We're not going to show it here because that would be gross. And then they go, oh, they did this disgusting scene. Let's play it again in this documentary 15 years later. And she obviously doesn't want to participate in this documentary, but now everyone knows.

[Chris Cole]

Where to go to watch it.

[Whitney Cummings]

Now I can go to the documentary to watch my child pornography. Now I can go. Thank you for the reminder. It's now in a documentary. So if they took it off Nickelodeon, which I'm sure they did, now I can just go watch this documentary to be a creep and then I can go watch Amanda Bynes be traumatized and, like, feel like I'm a good person. What are. What. I haven't articulated it yet, but, you know, I'm on to something. Yeah, I'm mad. I got got. I got got. I got manipulated. It's like, you know what it is? It's the same thing as the. You know that my animal rescue work is mostly shutting down sanctuaries, Right? Because sanctuaries, they just call it a sanctuary, but it's really just a zoo called a sanctuary. They pretend it's a charity. It's really just a tax write off. And zoos, you're not pretending to be good people. You're like, yeah, we drug and we put animals in a box and we drug them. And everyone's like, all right, my guy, seaworld, we're just monsters, right? Okay. But sanctuaries go, no, we say, we rescued this cub from its mom. What did you just. The number one thing we know about apex predators is the moms.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Are protective of the cubs. Have you ever seen a bear cub or a lion cub? You're like, I'm good. Yeah, you can have them.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah. They don't just abandon.

[Whitney Cummings]

No. If there is a cub, an apex predator, a lion, tiger, or bear without their mom, the mom was killed. Period. The end.

[C]

Done.

[Whitney Cummings]

Moms aren't like, can you take this for me. It's a little much. I don't have time, you know? And so that's what this is. That's what the icarly documentary is to me now. It's, let's all re traumatize these kids. Let's all re show all these disgusting scenes to everybody. Re Exploit them under the guise of we're good people.

[Chris Cole]

Well, also, at the end of it, like, what are you actually doing? You're just trying to make money, right? Like, how do I make money? But I'll just take down somebody. Like, let me find something to make money on.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris Cole]

Because that's what it really is. Like, it's not like, at the end of that, all the money got donated in some way or, like, into, like, a real charity or something like that. It's just like, I made something, you know, I did a thing.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah. And I'm just like, I don't know. There was an editor who was just watching that scene over and over again. There were producers that were just watching that scene of Ronnie Grande over and over again. And I'm like, at any point with someone like, you know what?

[Chris Cole]

This feels icky.

[Whitney Cummings]

Is anyone like, I don't want to watch this. Like, honestly, I don't think this is right to watch this. Maybe we should just put in, like, a. There was this. Maybe just describe the scene or have someone else describe the scene. Like, do we really need to show it? I hope Ariana Grande sued them with an inch of their life. You know why I'm bringing this up? Because this was, to me, kind of the year of people pretending to be heroes and doing the same creepy stuff. Hey, Justin Baldoni, I'm sure. Yeah, Blake Lively. I'm sure she's been Whatever. And a couple junkets. I'm not taking sides. I'm just saying it's always the guys that are like, my cause is feminist men. Their causes are always what? Free the nipple. Breastfeeding in public. Free bleeding, slut shaming. Don't slut shame women?

[Chris Cole]

Slut walking.

[Whitney Cummings]

Slut walk. Because I'm gonna go down to the slut walk. And if any sluts are shamed, they can come to my bedroom, which is a safe space for them to be a slut. Like, it's always this. It's always the. Like, I'm a hero, and I'm fighting. Remember the. The sound of freedom guy was like, I'm saving kids from being trafficked, and if you just take a shower together, I could really focus more on saving More kids. I'm like, why do you have a publicist? Aren't you saving kids? Yeah, hold on, hold on. So you know where the trafficked kids are? And you're on Oprah's show. You're on Ellen. Can you wait? Where are the kids?

[Chris Cole]

Dude, it's like what Ari said when he was drop the pin with the Liam Neeson. Like, hey, Liam, do it anyway. Remember Liam Neeson's Taken franchise.

[Whitney Cummings]

My favorite scene is when he's looking.

[Chris Cole]

For his daughter in the brothel house and he keeps knocking the doors like, bah. And then there's like a passed out little girl there and he turns the.

[Whitney Cummings]

Little girl, not his daughter.

[Chris Cole]

I love that. It's just like, no, my little angel. Like, I don't give a about this Romanian slut without a passport.

[C]

This girl.

[Whitney Cummings]

I have a very specific set of cells. I will find you and I will kill you if you're not my daughter. I will also kill you if you get in my way.

[Chris Cole]

And also, I love that he. He took down the whole syndicate of.

[Whitney Cummings]

Protests and prostitution just because his baby girl called missing. Hey, Liam, just do it.

[Chris Cole]

Anyway.

[Whitney Cummings]

Guys, Pregnancy can feel overwhelming. That's what's written in the copy. Can feel overwhelming. Who wrote this guy? Ritual, I love you. I have actually used your brand for realsies for almost like seven years now. The fact that the ding on my computer just went off. I'm doing business right now, and my boyfriend, I just told him to turn off his ding dings and he is trying to get a point out of my ding going off, but. Are you taking your shirt off? Are we gonna. Are we gonna fight? What's happening? Anyway, so we're all over the place today, but this copy says, pregnancy can feel overwhelming. Well, there's like two months where you can't inhale and exhale, but yeah, the point is, when you first do get pregnant, there's so many prenatals and so many of them seem to be designed by whatever guy made the five hour energy drink sticker. I just went straight with a brand that I already trusted because I already took their omega and that is ritual. I did ritual. Essential women prenatal vitamin. Then I went to my pediatrician. I know. I went to the pediatrician. I'm a baby. I went to my gynecologist and she's like, you need to take ritual. And I was like, I already am. I might as well do this for a living. And then I took her job. Ritual is designed with a mom to baby support situation in mind. Delivering 12 key nutrients in just two easy to take capsules daily. So you're not like Ritual includes ingredients like methylated folate. I learned all about this. Some people can't methylate their own folate on their ownsies and choline to support baby's neural tube development. Can you imagine if your baby's neural tube wasn't developed? How embarrassing. I thought Cummings got me bullied. Like did you see this? Like neural tube isn't even like on point. Omega 3 DHA for brain and vision development and vitamin D. Not that one. Not the one that got you pregnant. The other one for bone health. What? What? What is great about the delayed release design which makes it gentle on the stomach even during those crazy moments? Every bottle is rigorously tested for all of the things. It's non gmo. It's gluten free. It's. There's a clean label project that said yes to these vitamins. Plus every bottle has a citrus essence tab for fresh experience every time you take it. In case you're dating while pregnant and you need that fresh breath. Who would do that? Take control of your prenatal journey to die. Get 25 off your first month by visiting ritual.com Whitney. That's ritual.com Whitney. Do you guys ever wonder how much personal I think it's data. When someone says data I'm like I'm so sorry. Oh oh. Oh my goodness. You.

[Chris Cole]

Me.

[Whitney Cummings]

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[Chris Cole]

Thanks. I was waiting on that.

[Whitney Cummings]

You want to give me some feedback?

[Chris Cole]

Okay. So we're going to do New Year's resolutions for each other.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay.

[Chris Cole]

Are yours just in your brain? All right.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yours are in a notes app.

[Chris Cole]

Minor in a notes app.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay. So babe's going through a notes app. New Year's resolutions. This is mine for you and yours for me. As in like what you hope I'll do next year or like demands of I'll only stay in love with you if you do. No, of course I'm leaving. Unless you.

[Chris Cole]

I think their suggestions.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay.

[Chris Cole]

Like for funsies.

[Whitney Cummings]

Don't hold back.

[Chris Cole]

Okay, so.

[Whitney Cummings]

But look at me. You can't look at the phone too much.

[Chris Cole]

We have the same eye color.

[Whitney Cummings]

You do.

[Chris Cole]

They're almost identical.

[Whitney Cummings]

We're probably related, but explain a lot.

[Chris Cole]

You don't smell bad to me.

[Whitney Cummings]

Really?

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

So incest. That's the thing is that if someone smells bad to you, like their breath is super halitosisy or their BO smells bad, chances are you're related. Huberman talked about it on the podcast. Okay.

[Chris Cole]

Second Tada. Who am I?

[Whitney Cummings]

A magician.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah. What's that? Monochromatic day of the week. You'll wear the same color, whole body, same color one day a week. Doesn't matter what color. You could do a lavender day, you know, but Thursdays are my monochromatic day. So I'm in all just Chris Paul shirts, all lavender.

[Whitney Cummings]

What's the logic behind this? Because I love it.

[Chris Cole]

But I just thought you'd love it. That's it. You have so many cool colorways and things like that in your closet that you could truly do this.

[Whitney Cummings]

Uh huh.

[Chris Cole]

You could go one day in just all sand.

[Whitney Cummings]

You know that. Sand. You know that. So Kim Kardashian, her employees all wear only like the color putty, like everything. And Sia, sorry I'm not name dropping the Kim Kardashian one. Was in a interview somewhere. And Sia brilliant. She only wears one color because it reduces decision fatigue. Artists should only wear one color when you're creating because it. It is decision fatigue number one, in order to choose something in the morning. And it's actively distracting to avoid something, which is why clutter is bad. Because when you're trying to focus on something, you have to actively avoid other things. So I have really been flirting with the idea. Virgil Abloh did this too. Kanye does this, too, where you just wear one color. Yeah.

[Chris Cole]

Steve Jobs, too.

[Whitney Cummings]

And that's it.

[Chris Cole]

Like. Or your cap.

[Whitney Cummings]

It was also a sociopath, but Steve helps say.

[Chris Cole]

Is it called, like, a capsule outfit or something?

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, yeah, maybe capsule. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris Cole]

Like, you go through your closet, and it's for Steve Jobs. It's all black turtleneck.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chris Cole]

Blue jeans, black turtleneck.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris Cole]

Thing is, black turtleneck.

[Whitney Cummings]

I would love a uniform. This is. By the way, I remember when I went to a school that had a uniform. I hated it, obviously, because you just want to be unique at that age. You just want. You know, of course. And then you're like, you didn't pick it. This is so great because, like, they don't have. Especially when you don't have money as a kid, you're like, I don't have the Abercrombie jeans and I don't have the J. Crew sweater. So, like, we're all just wearing the same thing. And you don't have to, like, spend all morning being like, well, this make these girls like me. Will this help me sit at this lunch table? Like, can I wear. You know what I mean?

[Chris Cole]

You don't have to, like, what's super cool? To do a capsule outfit now. Which is probably the wrong word for it, but it's super cool now because you have the other option. And you can change your mind at any given time and change. Or you could just go, this is my silhouette, and I'm going to wear it all the time.

[Whitney Cummings]

And it doesn't have to be the same. It could be, like, all just blues, all yellows, all.

[Chris Cole]

All lavender. On this Thursday, next Thursday, it's. It's all, like, blood red, you know?

[Whitney Cummings]

This is a great one.

[Chris Cole]

Thanks.

[Whitney Cummings]

Is it because you see that it takes me a while to choose things?

[Chris Cole]

No, I just. I thought about the color lavender, and you have some lavender items, and I thought, this is a cool idea.

[Whitney Cummings]

Just once a week where. Oh, you want. You want it to be specifically lavender?

[Chris Cole]

No, I just thought about. That was where it spawned from. And Then it went.

[Whitney Cummings]

We're just getting into fetishes.

[Chris Cole]

Then it went to beige, and then, like, all the other colors, you know?

[Whitney Cummings]

I love you, babe.

[Chris Cole]

Dance will be the hardest thing.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's a good one. Because I am looking for ways to reduce decision fatigue. It's like, why I always remember when I asked you to please make decisions for me.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

When I'm like, let's eat dinner. And you're like, where should we go? And I'm like, yeah, I had two decisions left that I could make today, and you just took one.

[Chris Cole]

This.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yes. But my one for last year was just pick out all your outfits on Sunday for the week. So that. That's already done. But I don't know what person I'm going to be.

[Chris Cole]

I'm looking for trips, though. And it's kind of like that.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's a great one, babe. I love it. What's the next one?

[Chris Cole]

Oh, am I giving you all mine right now? Okay. Next one is. Okay. Limiting your lotion and oil routine at night to 30 minutes.

[Whitney Cummings]

It's been a pleasure.

[Chris Cole]

Cannot exceed 30 minutes.

[Whitney Cummings]

Could you. Okay. One mind for you. One I have for you is that you have a lotion or oil routine that exceeds zero seconds. I just swather myself in oil at this point, hoping to kiss me so I can get some on your face. My skin not trying to make you look younger.

[Chris Cole]

My skin is way nicer because of that.

[Whitney Cummings]

Not trying to make you look younger. Not even. If anything. It's just before we go to bed. Before we go to bed. That's the noise I hear. That's the noise I hear before. That is true, you guys.

[Chris Cole]

That is true.

[Whitney Cummings]

As I'm falling asleep. But the good news is we got to have a white Christmas. It was just snow. It was just the skin.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah. Dandruff of my whole body just everywhere To Andrew.

[Whitney Cummings]

So I. Okay, if I may. The reason that the routine takes a while is that you have to let each layer absorb. And if you put it on and then just get right into bed, your sheets are just going to wipe it all off. So I'll do a layer, then go do piddling, paddling, and then I'll do another layer and then I'll go do stuff I need to get done, and then I'll do the oil layer and do other things. So I'm doing other things at the same time. Chris Cole.

[Chris Cole]

Okay, does layer one and two, can they be combined and then put on at one time and then wait.

[Whitney Cummings]

Well, every day is a different.

[Chris Cole]

Is a winding combo.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah. Every day is. Every day is a different combo. You know what I mean? But how is this impacting you negatively? Just curious. Because, I mean, do I not look younger than my own son?

[Chris Cole]

You look.

[Whitney Cummings]

No.

[Chris Cole]

Botox look phenomenal.

[Whitney Cummings]

Stop. Or do you want me to get Botox again? And then you're not going to understand anything I'm ever saying.

[Chris Cole]

Not into it, into what you're doing now. Not into sexy dolphins, into what you're into now. But a little bit of a grinding gears is you'll say, hey, babe, I want to go to bed early. And then I'll go, okay, cool. And I'll start to, like, do my thing. And then the by thing you mean brush my teeth.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay.

[Chris Cole]

You know, and you'll just be like, that's it. And then you'll say again, you'll be like, hey, babe, just trying to get to bed early. And I'm just like, you just took forever to do. You told me. What? I just got here.

[Whitney Cummings]

So I take too long putting on the serums and the oils.

[Chris Cole]

Okay, serums and the oils and the oils and the serums.

[Whitney Cummings]

But it's not about how long it takes. It's about when I start is what I'm hearing. I just need to start earlier.

[Chris Cole]

Sure. Yeah. You know what?

[Whitney Cummings]

Because I'm not budging. I'm not budging on the layers.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah. But I feel like you'll thank me.

[Whitney Cummings]

Later when we're 80.

[Chris Cole]

You'll thank me later.

[Whitney Cummings]

You're going to. All right, give me another one.

[Chris Cole]

All right.

[Whitney Cummings]

How many do you have? Five.

[Chris Cole]

I got five.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay. Keep going. I like them.

[Chris Cole]

Okay. When I'm driving, babe points. She just does this hand, and this hand is driving. It's just like, take this lane. Take this lane. She won't say a word.

[Whitney Cummings]

I don't say a word.

[Chris Cole]

She just do the like. Like, I just go like this to get around the truck. And she just points. I will like as. And I'm just like, are you sure you want to do this? I check my blind spot.

[Whitney Cummings]

Are you sure?

[Chris Cole]

I know that there's an Audi directly next to me. So when she goes Audi's.

[Whitney Cummings]

Everyone's on method drives county. It is hard.

[Chris Cole]

I can't do. Eh. Because there's a car here, babe.

[Whitney Cummings]

By the way, I have to just take this as a. You want to spend a lot of time in the car with me, and I love that for you. If we are taking a right on like a huge freeway, he will get in the right lane to get off on the freeway. I don't know. 16 exits. You'll see there's 16 exits before we get off on the next freeway that is perpendicular. And you will. My thing is, you go to the front and obviously cut over at the end because I'm an adult. And you will just. We are just there. We are there.

[Chris Cole]

I drive a white truck.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's correct.

[Chris Cole]

White truck. People are the most known for road rage and whatnot.

[Whitney Cummings]

I know, but you never know.

[Chris Cole]

You never want to be that guy. I don't want them to think that I am that guy.

[Whitney Cummings]

You already have the permission slip to do it. They already think you're that person. Just take the win.

[Chris Cole]

I don't.

[Whitney Cummings]

Can we switch cars?

[Chris Cole]

I don't need a race sticker.

[Whitney Cummings]

I would love for people. I would love for people to think that.

[Chris Cole]

Tiger Shulman.

[Whitney Cummings]

And it's important. It is important that people fear you a little bit. You're too nice. And you know this. So if you already have a car that makes people think you're a proud boy, just lean in.

[Chris Cole]

I love letting people get in front of me for the wave. That wave I live for. But back to the. Back to. You're right. I do that. I've started working on it till I get into the center lane, because the highways out here are psycho.

[Whitney Cummings]

You know what else about you? You love driving. You love being in a car.

[Chris Cole]

I do.

[Whitney Cummings]

You're like. You're not in any rush.

[Chris Cole]

That's the thing.

[Whitney Cummings]

And I love that about you.

[Chris Cole]

Well, here's the thing. Because I'm in the car so much, I've realized that you can floor it to your destination and risk your life and save four minutes, or you can drive totally safe and slow and you're four minutes later than you would have been if you were, like, running red lights and potentially getting pulled over.

[Whitney Cummings]

Says the person with a motorcycle.

[Chris Cole]

That's different. I don't have to run any red lights. I just split lanes.

[Whitney Cummings]

I just. When, like. I love when you decide it's about safety.

[Chris Cole]

And it is wishy washy. I'll tell you that. At best, you're right. So I'm gonna work on my. Literally.

[Whitney Cummings]

Literally. Can you pick a lane? The fast one I'll work on. He doesn't even get in the HOV lane when I'm in the car. Like, can you see me? Am I dead?

[Chris Cole]

You've been dead for a long time. So, uh, I'm saying that you can still point. You can do your hand thing.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yes, sir.

[Chris Cole]

Limit to two points per trip.

[Whitney Cummings]

Can you increase the number of times you get in the lane, that is like, the most.

[Chris Cole]

I said I'll be working on that.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay.

[Chris Cole]

Um, and that counter resets if we stop, so if we stop for gas, you get another two points on our way to the next.

[Whitney Cummings]

And what do I win? Your undying love.

[Chris Cole]

I feel like my ADD would be better.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay. It's a distraction when I do it, because I can't not. I don't even need you to.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Because when I do it, I don't even need you to abide by it. But I have to, like, you know.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

We're both two very dominant personalities, and I want nothing more than to be a more beta personality with you. And the fact that I haven't made you pull over and a switch and me drive is nothing short of a miracle. So I would, like, just if that.

[Chris Cole]

Happens, like, if one day you say, pull over, I'm driving, I will get out of the car and I will walk into the woods and you'll never see me again. I will just disappear into the woods. I won't look back. I'm gone.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's what Bigfoot is.

[Chris Cole]

That's what Bigfoot is. Just a dude that got kicked out from driving bad.

[Whitney Cummings]

A Bigfoot breakup. And he just kept walking.

[Chris Cole]

He's just. Yeah. And we haven't seen him because he walked into the ocean with all of his clothes on.

[Whitney Cummings]

You know what else? May I add this to mine?

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

I also would like to go through once a week and unsubscribe from emails, mostly from Pottery Barn. Pottery Barn. I swear, I buy your stuff. I. I know you. I know you. If I want something from Pottery Barn, I know where the stores are. I know the website by now. I bought things from you guys. But the amount of emails you send me, I'm now like. I don't know, man. I feel like you're spending all your money on hiring people to write these emails to harass me and slide into my DMs instead of just. Just work. Focus on the products, man. The unsubscribe button is simply to verify.

[Chris Cole]

That there is really a human on the Internet. Oh, dude, I. I love this. Love this. Because nothing changes.

[Whitney Cummings]

I knew it. Honestly, I. I literally. I used to unsubscribe from things, and I was like, how am I now getting more of these at. How am I getting. And when I tell you every Instagram ad that is targeted towards me, I want it. I want it.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Not one email. Not one email has sent me something. Pottery Barn. I usually want everything in that store, you managed to send me the one thing that I'm like, I don't really want that. So why don't you spend the money you would spend on all this rigamarole which like bombarding me with these like emails into one Instagram ad that I will buy right away. Apple pay. Done, handled.

[Chris Cole]

You know, so you know how I knew it? You know how much I cook, right? None.

[Whitney Cummings]

You don't.

[Chris Cole]

No.

[Whitney Cummings]

You cook a little bit.

[Chris Cole]

I get at least two mail.

[Whitney Cummings]

You made a great roast.

[Chris Cole]

Emails a day.

[Whitney Cummings]

Made a roast with no butter as.

[Chris Cole]

Well from some recipes thing. How I signed two emails a day. Recipes.

[Whitney Cummings]

By the way, one time I was on. I was in a Al Anon meeting and it was an in person meeting and this woman showed up. She had a tiny ponytail with a scrunchie this big fuchsia. It's an all scrunchie tiny ponytail.

[Chris Cole]

Okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like almost like a like a pig butt coil. And she was in like sweatpants and like pink Crocs with like socks. And she came in late and she shared and she's like, you know, I'm pretty good. I'd like to share some progress. She goes, I'd like to share some progress. So my sister called me. I did not call her. It was a C word. I did not call her the C word. And we fought over like my mom's estate, whatever it was. And she's like, we fought over that and did not call her the C word. So that's. That's big progress. And I got off the phone and I showed a lot of grace by just taking up the phone, said merry Christmas. And then I went to a porn site and I signed her up. I put her email in and signed her up for a bunch of porn. So I'm sorry about that. But like she would go in and put her sister's email in to receive like crazy offers and stuff. That was like her little. I just.

[Chris Cole]

That is way meaner. Just call me the C word.

[Whitney Cummings]

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[C]

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[Whitney Cummings]

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[C]

How you doing, dude?

[Chris Cole]

Doing well. How are you, sir?

[C]

I'm good. It's my first time on Kawaii. I'm, I'm getting into it.

[Chris Cole]

Nice. What are you, what are you up to today?

[C]

Well, Rick and I have just been walking up and down the beach talking about projects. He says hello, saying hello. Hey, Christmas. Happy New Year.

[Whitney Cummings]

I see that red light behind you.

[C]

Only red lights only. No other. No other electricity besides. Well, other electricity. No other lights, but only red lights.

[Chris Cole]

What's the benefit?

[C]

Because at night you can sleep better and then it helps you fall asleep. But then people forget that sunlight is full spectrum. So when people talk about red light therapy, you can get red light therapy from the thing called the sun too. People forget that. So sunlight, it's all about sunlight out here. But if I say I'm staying one more day, but if I stay two more days, I'm gonna start throwing shockers. I gotta get back.

[Chris Cole]

That's right.

[C]

People do that, right? But it turns out that Danny's out here and a bunch of other people. I've never been here. It's beautiful, but I. I don't want to talk about me. I want to hear how you guys are doing.

[Whitney Cummings]

No, Andrew, we're only talking about how you rip.

[Chris Cole]

That's it. That's all we're talking about.

[Whitney Cummings]

Chris will not. He will not stop talking about it.

[C]

No, it's like one, one flat ground line done not with skis. And then one little front side grind that Cole's on a whole other level. You can't even. It's like, I don't know.

[Chris Cole]

I've only done like one fakie impossible. And it was against Jamie in a game escape, because he does it.

[C]

Yeah. My foot was way up at the nose. I didn't know you could do them with the foot back until I saw Mike Carroll do with the foot back.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah, but. And everybody did them with the foot on the nose in the beginning.

[C]

All right, thanks for that. I appreciate it. Because, you know, these days also, skateboarders, they've always been pretty harsh, but, like, I feel like skateboarding's entered this whole other era of like, critiquing. But it's good now that I'm no longer part of the scene. I figure, like, you know, eff it. I'll just put it out there and.

[Chris Cole]

People, I'm so excited about it.

[C]

I'll come out and ride again. Actually, the there, I looked at a new place because I'm moving. I'm out of my place on the 31st because I want to move, and there's a place with a full size wooden bowl. I got to show you. I know transition's not your thing.

[Chris Cole]

I'm into it.

[C]

Yeah. By the way, if I say. I mean transition, I was going to.

[Chris Cole]

Say totally get it.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Just for the non skateboarders, I just want to be very clear what I'm referring to.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. Here's the thing that we were talking about about incest earlier.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, sorry, I misquoted you.

[C]

Evolution punishes that. With what? With mutations. Right. I mean, this is why, like, in countries where there aren't many people, like, you know, Iceland, northern countries, they have all these genealogy records because they understood early on, even before they really understood what genes were, which. Which is that if people reproduced with people that were too closely related to them, they would get kids that were had mutations. So like nature. Nature punishes with bad mutations. Yeah. So and, and yes, there is this idea separately, that smell in particular. Let's just get right down to it. We're biologists here. The taste and smell of somebody's breath and saliva. Saliva and breath respectively, is an indication that, like, that's part of chemistry, quote, unquote.

[Whitney Cummings]

Right. It's like, oh, interesting.

[C]

You know, like, like, like this whole notion of chemistry is like a real thing. Like, have you ever in a relationship where like, somebody's like, smell and taste just like, it's insane. Like, you're like, yes. You know, and then other times you're like, I don't know what the deal is, but, like. No.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, it's like bad chemistry. It's not. When you think chemistry, you think, like, mental. Like, can you go back and forth? But that's so true.

[C]

Yeah, well, they tell me the mental chemistry part is important too, also.

[Whitney Cummings]

Andrew, tell me, dating a skateboarder, what non binary person? They. Who's they? Chris and I have. Our main irreconcilable differences is he has skateboard camera angle. I guess they shoot down, like we need.

[Chris Cole]

And she tries to get.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Chris Cole]

And I get it.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Chris Cole]

Oh, my God. What the hell? I get it.

[C]

That's interesting. It's always from below. Interesting.

[Whitney Cummings]

Skateboarding.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah. Skate. Skate, dude. You get low.

[C]

Well, I'll give everyone a tip that. I learned that from our photographer, our friend. Mutual friend. Mike Wayback.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[C]

Amazing photographer. So if you're gonna take a selfie with somebody, they need. You all need to look at the little green dot at the top of your camera. So that eyes are up, but nobody does that. Everyone looks at themselves. They're like, checking themselves. They're like. And then they. And then the photos come out with eyes down, and they look, like, mildly sedated. So it's called. It's what I call the fentanyl selfie. It's not a good look. And so. But if you're looking, I'm very. I'm very relaxed on vacation. You can tell.

[Whitney Cummings]

I love this huberman.

[C]

I've never. I like. Yeah, like, basically, like, I have no gaba right now, so I have to be really careful. So eyes up. If you look at the green. So, like, when you, like, pair up for the selfie, you know, there's two things you got. I remember. Like, show your hands, right? And eyes at the. At the green light up top. And then your eyes will be up.

[Whitney Cummings]

This is why I stopped zooming, because I realized that when I'm in a zoom meeting, I'm just looking at myself and I'm like, this is not healthy. Like, I didn't. I didn't know where to look. You mean.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah, that's why you drag. You drag the box up toward the camera so you can watch them up there.

[C]

Right? Right.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[C]

So when you guys have kids and you want to go on vacation, I'll watch them. I'm a good babysitter. My friends for a long time have been letting me, you know, watch. You know, we'll make small fires in the house, not large fires.

[Chris Cole]

All right, I like that.

[C]

We'll do science experiments. So there was A lot of questions in the last one about whether or not you guys are gonna have kids. You guys would make beautiful babies.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, gosh. Well, I mean, that's very sweet. I would love. I've never gotten more. Had him say more positive things about a skateboarder than after seeing you in a. What was that trick? I don't even know.

[Chris Cole]

Fake impossible. I was like, he did a big model.

[C]

It was real flat. It was on flat ground. I appreciate.

[Chris Cole]

I don't think anybody. I promise, never did one anywhere else, really. I think about that down, like, Belmont stairs. That would be buck wild.

[C]

What I want to know is how anyone can make a front foot impossible look good. I've never seen anyone make it look good. Like, a front foot impossible always looks not good. I never could do them.

[Whitney Cummings]

And can I ask you a question? Is it once a skater, always a skater in terms of when, you know, I think most women have to deal with, like, men checking out other women when they walk by. So he'll do that, and he's looking at, like, a staircase or a rail. He'll be like, look at that rail. And I'm like.

[C]

So I catch it because, like, I interact with dogs the way that some men who don't have good filters interact with women. Like. Like, I'll have my friends be like, hold up, hold up. Slow down. And I'm like, check that out. And it's like a beautiful bulldog. And I'll be like. And then when I see a bulldog on the street, I go, wait. Bulldog tax. And people are like, huh? And in the moment, they pause. I'm like, I pet my dog. So, you know, so with, you know, skateboarders, I mean, they'll see, like, a. A curb or a rail or a bank or a ditch or something, and they. It's like a brain area. It's like a whole. I can't help myself. Like, even though it's, you know, I've been, you know, not riding for years, except here and there. Yeah. I still have it in me. You can't. You can't help. But it's. It's just, like, wired in so great.

[Whitney Cummings]

What are Andrew Huberman's New Year's resolutions? Or do you even do that besides to hang out with us more?

[C]

Definitely. Definitely their New Year's resolutions. I mean, I'm starting to actually go to bed at a decent hour, which, Because I have Argentine blood, which for me is like, 11.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[C]

Because I just have this thing up to New Year's resolutions. Yeah. No, no, I don't engage in drama with anybody. Like, drama's a weapon. And, like, I feel like at least actors get paid for it.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's right. You know?

[C]

Yeah, I tried to watch your. Your TikTok thing. I don't have tick tock, but your TikTok thing on. There's some recent actor drama out there. And you did a.

[Whitney Cummings]

You did one.

[C]

I got to go check it out. But, like, I noticed, I was like, wow, like, so much drama on. Like, I just go. And so no, no drama. Like, I now have an office for drama. That's one. And then Rick and I were talking yesterday, and I'm starting to do a lot more writing by pen and paper again.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's ours. Our news resolution is journaling, but not journaling for some other person in the future to read. Because that's what I would do. I'd be like, am I writing this for someone to find one day? Like, is this to, like, just for me? And then you can tell me what mental illness this is. Every time I go to write in a journal, the handwriting's different. And I'm like, it like, does the handwriting. I'm always. My OCD is just like, the handwriting needs to be the same on every page. And then I just shut down.

[C]

Yeah, I would. I would definitely not worry about that because I write in all caps. But then when my thing, like, if I've had too much caffeine or a little bit of nicotine gum, like, my handwriting just like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, it's like skateboarding, right? Like, sometimes you cruise and sometimes you're like, you just like. Yeah. But there's a really cool study that came out recently. This is no bs this is like legit. The. When you write by hand, it increases. They did brain imaging. It increases brainwide connectivity in a manner that parallels, like, the brainwide connectivity increases. You see, like when people do psilocybin. So it's a really powerful tool for creating new representations of ideas. There's something fundamentally important about this, about writing and typing and texting. Great, do it. But it's a different thing altogether. So that's my New Year's resolution, is to just write more. But I always assume someone's going to read it because what I learned too late in life, which is unless it's something you just keep in your head, assume somebody's going to see it at some point.

[Chris Cole]

Somebody asked, does this work with an iPad and an Apple pencil as well, or just pen and paper?

[C]

Yeah, I think it probably work with an iPad. And pencil.

[Whitney Cummings]

Good news about a piece of paper and a pencil. You can burn a piece of paper. You can't burn the cloud.

[C]

Right. This is true. This morning I journaled just to myself. And then I tore it up into little pieces and then I put it in my pocket because they were cleaning in here and I had no reason to suspect that they were gonna, like, put it back together, but I had this image of it.

[Chris Cole]

Ridiculous.

[C]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

And you know what? I'm just gonna go back to something that. Because people will sometimes tell me, they're like, you changed my life when you said this thing. And I'm like, what was it? And they'll say it to me, and I'm like, that's amazing. I wish I did that. Like, sometimes you. The first time you were on the podcast, you talked about emotional contagion and. Sorry to go back to the no drama thing, but that when other people. Even if you're not in a relationship with the person, even whatever it is, like not allowing other people, not catching someone else's emotional contagion. That changed my life. When you told me about that.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, it's. I think these days with social media and phones everything, you just have to have so many guardrails. I was thinking this morning I actually wrote in my journal that, like, boundaries are. Is a kind of complicated psychological concept. I'm. These days, I'm really into the jocko stuff.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[C]

Like the discipline. Like, just action, like, disciplines over boundaries. Like, the same thing. Like how like, discipline. Because then it's action oriented. Right. And by the way, like, I delight in Jocko's, like, clarity and directness and specificity about things, like two word responses. But the other day, he did a memorial post for his German shepherd, who I've met Odin. And it was like, effusive about all these ways in which he loves Odin. I was like, man, he's like, could he get any, like, cooler? Like, when it came to the dog, he's like, very effusive. Everything else, it was like, boom, two words, done. Get it done. Boom.

[Whitney Cummings]

My sponsor says no email should be longer than two sentences. Any longer than two sentences, you're either manipulating or apologizing.

[C]

Oh, that's good.

[Whitney Cummings]

I know.

[C]

Sponsor, I want your sponsor.

[Whitney Cummings]

And then boundaries are for us and not them. And usually if you have to set a boundary with someone, they're. They're a bust anyway. Like, at this. When you're in your 20s, being like, hey, can you just not text me during work hours? At our age, you should Know by now, like, if I'm setting a boundary that's like, hey, I'm not going to be able to respond to you during work hours. Do you mind not? It's, you know, whatever. It's like, you should just know by now. Right. My boundaries for me, I'm not going to engage with people that I have to set a million boundaries with because you should just know better.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So I haven't had a chance to listen to your podcast together, but I'm excited.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, God, that one.

[C]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

No, just.

[C]

But the babe thing was really funny with Henry doing that. I like that clip.

[Whitney Cummings]

My son's first word.

[C]

That's so rad.

[Whitney Cummings]

Is babe.

[C]

Makes sense.

[Whitney Cummings]

This is what happens when you hang out with skateboarders. It will be your son's first word as well.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

I love you. We miss you so much.

[C]

You too. I'll be back soon. I fly back in the day or so and I'll be around. I'm gonna connect with you guys. Thanks for bringing me in. You guys have been super kind to me. I appreciate it, you know. You know, making sure I'm not, you know, and Rick sends his love and. Yeah, we'll. We'll all. We'll be in touch.

[Whitney Cummings]

I hope I get to see you in Austin next week.

[C]

Yeah, I'm supposed to be out there. Austin's jumping off right now. I feel like Austin is an amazing place, Louisiana too. Of course, everyone loves in the Bay Area is like, making this big.

[Whitney Cummings]

It really is. I was actually just thinking about that. I was actually just thinking about that.

[C]

Yeah, I. Nonetheless, I plan to go there as little as possible. Just for my. For my own reasons is a great place, but just because it feels like. Like I love it. I'll go there to see certain people, but I need to wait. I need to wait and see how it. How it emerges. Anyway, this is boring. For this, don't just ask if Chris and Whitney are dating now. She's just sitting on his lap for this live.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm just so unprofessional. Like, in my podcasts, I just hold men captive. I'm like the female Harvey Weinstein. I'm like, hey, come sit on my couch.

[C]

You can and would say that. Last question, though. Who's watching Henry?

[Whitney Cummings]

I have the most amazing, amazing Henry. Henry have the most amazing nanny Saiva who is with him right now. He is learning Spanish. He. I'm like, please teach him Spanish so that he can survive in this world.

[C]

All right, well, love you both.

[Chris Cole]

Okay, so my last one Was journaling.

[Whitney Cummings]

I really need to do. But. But let me ask you a question. Will you hold me accountable for this?

[Chris Cole]

Of course. Easy.

[Whitney Cummings]

I really need to do that.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah, you do.

[Whitney Cummings]

And so you can read it. Here's my problem.

[Chris Cole]

I won't be able to read your handwriting.

[Whitney Cummings]

Here's my. Here's my problem with journaling. Number one, Every time I write with my hand, the handwriting is different, and I scare myself. I'm like, who's this person?

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Every time.

[Chris Cole]

What is that called, schizophrenia? No, you know, like, when you black out and, like, the ghosts write for you.

[Whitney Cummings]

I don't know.

[Chris Cole]

The viewers know, okay? The viewers know what I'm talking about.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm just like. Every time I write, I'm like, da, da, da. And then I'm the next page. I'm like, who? Like, am I a million people? Like, am I okay? And then the other thing is, I have a problem with. And again, I don't know what psychiatric diagnosis this would be, but when I write in a journal, I'm like, do I write this for other people to read at some point or who's it for? Who's the intended audience?

[Chris Cole]

Chance. Yeah. Chances are that you'll have dementia the day before, the day you planned on burning it. You know, I just mean, like, is.

[Whitney Cummings]

It for me to read in the future and be like, oh, whoa. Like, I was so insightful. I mean, I'm just worried that someone's going to pick up my journal and be like, who wrote this?

[Chris Cole]

Where?

[Whitney Cummings]

Give her a deal. Now.

[C]

Now.

[Chris Cole]

And they'll be Whitney Cummings.

[Whitney Cummings]

What? So for me, I guess I just. It's hard for me to write in a journal and not start to do lists and not turn it into a business. I'll be like, I should write a book about this. Like, you know what I mean?

[Chris Cole]

I'm like, that's why you have to limit yourself to five minutes.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's so little time.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah, but five minutes just to, like, there were two take homes of the day. If you did two take homes of every single day for five minutes, like, it'd be huge.

[Whitney Cummings]

And we do that anyway as we're falling asleep. Why don't we make each other journal together?

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

All right, well, that's it. I agree.

[Chris Cole]

Those were my five.

[Whitney Cummings]

One thing I do think that you would love, that would make you happy.

[Chris Cole]

Is like a GI Joe.

[Whitney Cummings]

Those were tiny. Is listening to podcasts.

[Chris Cole]

I used to listen to podcasts.

[Whitney Cummings]

What happened?

[Chris Cole]

I started actually talking to my friends. I started outreach. I started reaching out to my friends. To talk and to try to be a better friend. Like, instead of talking, that was actually this past. This past year's resolution was to be a better friend and start calling out my friends and.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

And so you stop listening to podcasts to call your friends.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah. Like, I used to just listen to podcasts or listen to music.

[Whitney Cummings]

See, this is something. Maybe this is what we. This is maybe your next year. One.

[C]

Ooh.

[Whitney Cummings]

And I think this is why you're such a good athlete and so good at what you do is you're like, I'm doing this or I'm not. Because you could also listen to podcasts and call your friend and you could talk about the podcast with your friend. Like, your brain is like very black and white thinking. You're like, I can't listen to a podcast because I have to call my friend at some point today. So I.

[Chris Cole]

And I can't because when I call.

[Whitney Cummings]

The phone does one thing.

[Chris Cole]

Because you know what it's like? It's like having the cold plunge or the hot tub. I don't. You. Doing both is wild. Like going from a hot tub right into the cold. Like, people do it. I don't know how you do it. I. When I'm on a call, I'm on a call, and then it's really hard for me to go from call to listening to other people on a call.

[Whitney Cummings]

Interesting.

[Chris Cole]

You know, huh? Like, now I'm on podcast, you're like.

[Whitney Cummings]

I just was doing a better version of this. Yeah, it's like that. It's like, guys, I don't. I don't. Like, Can I just.

[Chris Cole]

I was having a great podcast with my best friend, actually. Can I get a podcast of my best friend?

[Whitney Cummings]

So it's like too much input.

[Chris Cole]

I do, actually.

[Whitney Cummings]

You know what you would love? Sorry.

[Chris Cole]

Yours. After I leave here and I. And I miss you and I want to hear your voice, I listen to your podcast.

[Whitney Cummings]

Come on.

[Chris Cole]

Swear to God. Swears to God.

[Whitney Cummings]

No, I think that you don't listen to podcast because you don't know that there are ones out there custom made for. For you. Like, you love trivia stuff. Like, there is a podcast out there. It is about the making of the music video of.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah. Pop Up Video.

[Whitney Cummings]

There is some. There is a podcast out there that is about the band the Sword. There is a podcast out there about woodworking. If you have a skate injury, like it, you know.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

And you would love it.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah, I did listen to Wood Talk, which is a woodworking podcast. And you can only imagine. But you have to be, like, into it, where you're just like. So the tannins in the wood. Got it.

[Whitney Cummings]

It's wood talk.

[Chris Cole]

Yeah. They're talking about woodworking.

[Whitney Cummings]

What? A wood. It just doesn't roll off the tongue. Wood talk. Wood talk.

[Chris Cole]

It does definitely sound. Sounds like a. Sounds like a town in Pennsylvania.

[Whitney Cummings]

Sounds like Hawk to it if you're just like.

[Chris Cole]

Sounds like a town in Pennsylvania.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Chris Cole]

Like, Native American name.

[Whitney Cummings]

I love you, babe. Thank you for your resolutions.

[Chris Cole]

You're very welcome, babe. I love you more.

[Whitney Cummings]

You don't love me. You don't know that you love me more. That's a fake statistic, and I'm okay with that. What?

[Chris Cole]

Don't we ride elephants?

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, sorry. Oh, my goodness. I didn't realize you were royalty.