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Hi, everyone. Hey, Pat. So last week's episode really was a bang bang, huh? Look, I think it's fair to say that YouTube success has really changed me. The comment section has hammered my heart to such a pulp that when an episode does well, I'm like, these are. This is probably my own friends sending it to each other, being like, cringe.
C
Yeah. You want to see the comments in the. In the DMs of other people about the episode?
B
That's what I need. Like, I'm just. I. It's like going to be true or something. I just assume people hate watching it instead of actually watching it. Like, I have just been so raked over the coals. I feel like that even when something good happens, I'm like, oh, no, this is all people downloading it so they can, like, write a hit piece or David Harbor's lawyers are watching it to come. For me, honestly, I wish I would. All right. I do think, though, I. From what I understand, the feedback from last episode is that people just really resonated with me finally figuring out the name of the guy who bullies you by being the funnest person alive. The guy who pretends to be the nicest person on earth, even though they're deeply sadistic. Women do it, too. But, you know, I'm glad because that episode was very risky. It was like, oh, I'm really just gonna talk about this the entire time. But I'm glad that y' all found some relief in my OCD and tenacity when it comes to being able to pinpoint the name of the thing that exonerates you from having to explain yourself and prove to people that you're not the crazy one. You're welcome. It is such a relief, honestly. I think that that's what Real Housewives does for people. Like, they watch it and they're like, Teresa, like, that's my aunt. Like, that's what I've been. That's her. Like, it Makes people visible that everyone has, like, in their family in some way. But no one would ever believe your side of the story because it was like, oh, well, you're making this other person sound too crazy. And then you see housewives, and you're like, see that? That's it, Cindy. That's my mom. That's what happens. It's like. It's like you see right in front of you, the person who's like, what's that supposed to mean? Even though you said something super clearly, you're like, what do you mean? What's supposed to. It just. It means what? It just meant. It doesn't. Like, like, I never said that. You're like, no, there's a video of you saying that. That's what you said. She's like, no, no. Like, that's not what I meant. You don't get to change what things mean. You don't get to, like, change what vocabulary has meant forever just because you're wrong. Right? So that's what it does. It's like, can you Single Housewives of Utah. That's my boyfriend's mom. That's all right. Everyone's like, what? Like, shortcuts. We love shortcuts. Okay. Oh, anyway. Oh, gosh. Or the person who's like, I was joking. That was a joke. I was joking. Someone says the meanest thing you've ever heard, and, like, I was joking. Like, you don't get to. No, no. You don't get to be rude. And if someone holds you accountable, all of a sudden, you're just Dave Chappelle. Like, no one gets to just be a comedian as soon as they're losing an argument. You know, comedians are barely comedians, okay? Very few comedians can even tell a joke. Well, like, you don't get. You don't get to just say you were doing something that is an actual job, right? If it's not a job you've never been hired to do, you don't get to be it. Even in your spare time. Like, I don't get to punch someone in the face and be like, oh, no, I was doing surgery. That was just surgery. I was doing surgery on your face to help your eyebags, because one was swollen. And I feel like. You don't get to push someone and be like, what? That was. I was giving you a massage. That was massage therapy. Weren't you grateful? Okay, I'm a. I was doing chiropractor work on you, dude. Like, that's. You can't do. You don't get to just. All Of a sudden be doing someone else's job. Right. It's that said, I do think anyone can be a chiropractor, actually. I think anyone can do it at any time. Isn't that the. I is kind. Where do we land on chiropractors, Pat? Are they real? It's like. It's like astrology for the body. Right?
C
I mean, I know a few people that they say that they go to the chiropractor and they go regularly or whatever. And then I hear people say, never go to a chiropractor because they could absolutely give you nerve damage.
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I did go to a chiropractor for a while, and it did work. But the placebo effect is an effect that's like six. It's like the most effective treatment on the market, frankly. I think it's like 60% effective, which is higher than any other medicine. So, I mean, that's. That. It's like, how did I get that stat from Facts F A X T s dot net CAT okay, where do you think I. I'm sorry. I am friends with Andrew Huberman. We texted today so I would back off right now. How dare you. Whatever you take in the study of placebo, I mean, that's the most. I mean, of all the. Of all the. The sham studies, I do feel like the. The snake oil works better than the real stuff is probably one of the more flawed. Yeah.
C
And the. The idea of studying the placebo effect is hilarious.
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Yeah. No, it's a snake oil salesman being like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I know it didn't work. We knew it didn't work this whole time. We're doing it because if they think it works, it works. And then we're not going to poison them unnecessarily. It's like there's just. I don't know. Okay, sorry, Sorry. If the placebo effect is effective, let's just say chiropractic medicine works. It's great. So does acupuncture. So does scream therapy and intuitive eating. Sure. Why is that in my feed? I got this thing. Someone's intuitive eating. Someone famous. I'm like, what is intuitive eat? Like intuitive. If I were to eat intuitively, I would truly eat every individually wrapped caramel that's in the little box at Starbucks without even taking off the wrappers. So let's not. Don't. Don't pretend like we have any connection to our intuition whatsoever, homie. Like. Like what? I. I have many times, like, come very close to grabbing a popsicle out of my son's hand because it was melting and he was wasting it and I was like, like, this is my chance to eat a third popsicle. I'm going to do it so it doesn't get on the carpet and I'll have a reason. And the fact that I love him is stopping me from snatching it truly out of his hand, like quite violently. Anyway, Pat, how's your, how is your, how's your November shaping up?
C
It's going quite well.
B
Great, great, great, great.
C
Well, I know her remote shooting has been fun.
B
Oh, I'm bad. That sounded like super sarcastic. Here's the thing. I know I'm all over the place, but I have something to blame. Don't panic. I'm not even gonna blame myself this time, which is my favorite thing to do because accountability is my kink. I feel like every year you get older, you find a new thing that annoys you, but an old thing stops annoying you. I just don't think you're an adult until you firmly believe that Thanksgiving and Christmas are way too close together. As a kid, you're like, woo, like from turkey to ham, let's go. Like, bye, bye skeletons. Hello, Advent calendar. I ate for lunch December 6th. Like you're like so psyched because you're like riding this just like roller coaster, like, of adrenaline and like ham, you know, so, so at this point it costs $800 to even see your family members for a holiday for three days. So by the time you get there, you're just like, you're done. You're like, oh, really? You're gonna say that after I spent $800 to see you a week later? That's not what you said last week. It's like when you go on a vacation with a guy or something, the hotel room's expensive. You're like, wait, I was in love with you right before we checked into this hotel. And now everything you do, it makes me homicidal. And I think it's just because the room's $450. Like, oh, you need water. Like, what, what do you. Okay, so you're into guys. Like it's, everything is annoying that they do. So by the time you go home for Christmas, you're just like, oh, you want me to pass the salt? Really? Okay, well, after what I just paid for to come visit you, I should be treated like I'm, I'm in a five star hotel is what I should be in. How about you get down on your knees and pass me the salt on a pillow and then haven't you? Lay down naked on the table and cover your body in sushi, and I will eat off you while you try not to choke on that apple in your mouth. Aunt Pat. Anyway, I don't want to be negative. Good news. We've had some good news posting. The engagement actually went well. It was weird. It was like. I don't know. As soon as I posted it, I was like. I was holding my breath. I truly. As if I was about to go toward the Titanic on the sequest. I was like, like, how is this good? I was stunned. People were happy for me. It was very heartwarming. I. But of course, I was like, what's the Damocles sword here? Like, is everyone just Scientologists now? Like, are these bots? Like, it's just very. It's a lot of good feedback. Can be as scary as a lot of bad feedback because it's just like, oh, no, is this a prank? Am I about to be Carrie at the end of the movie? Like, it's just setting up for some, you know, I don't know. It always comes with a cost, I feel like. You know. But there were no comments about blood diamonds or me being a. I honestly, I'm so excited to see, like, now that I'm a mom with a fiance, what will people call me when they can't call me a. I just. I truly can't wait to see what you guys come up with. What you're going to call a serial monogamist who, frankly, stays in relationships way longer than she should. Not. Not to go back out there and sleep with a new person. Because I truly cannot enjoy intimacy at all unless we've already vowed to be monogamous. So if you think that's me being. I'm just. I'm very. I'm very curious how this is gonna go, but I do think there's something kind of like. I'm trying to think there was, like, a reverence for it, you know, because now that half of all marriages end, whatever these statistics are, and less and less people are getting married, there's something like, whoa. Like, okay. There's like a. It's like a. You're a soldier going off to war. They're like, good luck. I wouldn't do it. But that's what it is. Like, that's kind of the cause. Now that nobody believes in marriage, I'm into it. There's something punk rock about it now because I did a whole TV show that was about a girl that was in love with someone, and Living with a guy, but was too afraid to get married because of all the divorces she's seen based on yours truly. And now that's when everyone was getting married just constantly. And that was like their main goal in life. I just thought it was weird that a woman's main goal in life was to like have a hundred thousand dollar party pretending she's a virgin in a white dress. Like, it just seemed odd and all her friends have to pay money and like fly to Pensacola. Like, it just feels like a rigmarole. And I just thought like, if these marriages are ending, it's because they had a wedding. Like starting off your, your, you know, marriage being 50 grand in the hole, like, can't be a good way to like get this thing a flow, right? So I was always weird about it, but now that no one wants to get married and everyone's like poly, I'm like, let's go. There's something just, I don't know, it's like tradition is now sort of punk rock. Like I look at like trad wives and I'm like, like, all right. Like Starbucks won't even let them be baristas because it's like they're too edgy. Is it when you see someone in a wedding dress, like a wedding couple, you're like, oh God. There's something almost like pornographic about it. You're like, oh my God, you're gonna be together forever. Like, God, you guys, don't show us this. This is like too much. Like what are all these clothes you're wearing? Like, there's something just very, just punk about it. So here we are. I don't know, I also, I never thought I'd find happiness. Like there's. I think everyone is as surprised as I am because like I was raised by a narcissistic, emotionally immature, alcoholic, delusional monster. As parents, I mean, that's when my parents actually did raise me. They actually sent me to go be raised by their sisters who never had had kids. So I don't know, I just. So I guess we never thought that I was going to be able to have this, but here we are. But I would like to thank my 12 step program, my Rhodesian Ridgeback Mona, for, for always barking at guys I brought home that I thought were a good idea because they said they were entrepreneurs and they didn't have a chain wallet. But I was in fact wrong. Thank you for sensing what I was unable to sense because I learned to disassociate at such a young age. Thank you to my best friend Nikki, who talked me out of dating two separate podcasters, I convinced myself. Or a good idea, because he, quote, must be good at communicating because he sits on a couch with a microphone, so he must be an empath. My Spotify recommends that you listen to him if you also listen to Rich Roll, and he gets free bluechew. So if that's not the father of my son, I don't know who is. He has a job that won't be replaced by AI talking generically about fake problems. AI could never duplicate his art.
C
What do you think you'll change about your life?
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Gosh, as soon as you get married, it's like you start getting homework from people. So what are you. When's the wedding? So where are you moving? So do you. You having another kid? It's like, dude, can I just, for one second, bite on this engagement ring to try to figure out if it's real or not? I need to figure out if the ring's real.
C
Maybe this is a clue as to why so many marriages fail. Because as soon as people announce that they're getting married, they're under attack from everyone.
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Dude, it's wild. As soon as you have a kid, they're like, so when's the next one? I'm like, this one's still wet, and my stitches haven't even dissolved into my body yet. Which also, by the way, what people would know. The stitches dissolve. I'm like, I would like the kind you pull out, please. What do you mean? Where do they go? Has anyone answered that question? Stitches?
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Yeah, your.
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I'm calling.
C
My blood eats them.
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I'm calling. I'm calling rfk. Dude, can we look into the dissolvable stitches, please? Wait, so they hold my entire. But an undercarriage tightly together after it has been sawed in half, somehow is able to hold all that weight and then dissolves. How does it go from that sturdy to that innocuous?
C
Yeah. What? What Dupont number is installed in that thread?
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Oh, they also. No, they don't.
C
Of course you'll never see it.
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How would I know if they didn't or did? Like, what are you talking about? Can anyone just tell the truth, like, truly, ever? Okay, but I sent you Pat. You guys, the process of how I get to talking about what I talk about on this podcast is actually quite unprofessional. I. I find things, and I just send them to Pat. I send a bunch of things to Pat to, like, see what hits. And. And some things he just completely ignores. And then he'll send me something back about Neuralink and I will get like enraged and just be like, I'm not. I love Neuralink, so just don't you dare. Um, I cannot wait till someone just reads my thoughts and is just like, yeah, don't talk to her. She, she, she does not want to be asked about what's next now that she's engaged. Um, is that. It was a list. Okay. So I'm fascinated about this. People are really panicked about what, you know, what jobs AI is going to take. And a list came out, all the jobs that are likely going to be replaced by AI and the ones that are going to likely remain once, you know, AI, you know, replaces us or becomes conscious or whatever. Which, by the way, the fear that everyone has that like, AI is going to become conscious is so weird to me because, like, we're not even conscious. Like, anything's more conscious than a human. Like my Roomba is more conscious than a human at this point. Like, it's like the consciousness that AI has also will be based on our consciousness. Right? Because all of their data inputs are going to be from what we've all said. And we're becoming so unconscious every day that AI is just going to be as unconscious or conscious as we are. And we're barely conscious now. People walk down the street on their phones. I watched someone the other day walk into a plant bed through street curb. Plant bed, like instantly, I, I like a full on planter. Had no idea what was happening. This guy didn't even know where he was. Okay. I've been in Atlanta for two weeks and I'm in this like gated community thing and I get turned around. I've been here for two weeks and I don't know how to find the house I'm in. It's two lefts. It's two lefts. And I still. Cause I'm always on my phone when I go. Like, we're not even getting like the molecular muscle memory that we used to have. Like, you can just like walk home because your peripheral vision sort of indicates where you should be going. We don't have peripheral vision anymore. Like when you would drive, you would have peripheral vision. When you're on your phone, you have such blinders on. Like, we might as well just have a bag over our head, like at all times. Am I wrong? Like, look, I don't text and drive anymore. I'm great at it. But you know, I, I one time picked up my phone while I was driving and like then was like, oh, I'm driving. Like, I didn't even realize I was driving and I didn't even realize I was picking up my phone. Like, you're. We're just in this other echelon of consciousness that I guess there's no word for. I think it might be just called like psychosis. Unclear. But you know, people are so unconscious now. They just say things other people said with no regard of whether it's true or false or like. Or who the person is. Like, we just say drivel at this point. We're just like arrogant parrots. They're like the cracker. Like, like you don't know what a cracker is though. Like you're just saying it. Like, okay, so people will just talk and they'll be like, you know, the left, the left wants criminals from Chile to come in and poison Skittles. And you're like, can you slow down for. You just said that as if you read 30 books on it and you're exhausted about talking about it. Like, I don't. How did you get this arrogant about something that you have no proof of? And then, you know, someone on the left will just be like, yeah, well, I mean, the right wants to go to war with Portland. And you're like, did you just like say. Did you just say that? Like, it's not even like, you know, I heard that maybe the right wants to like take some action in Portland. Like they just. You go straight to the way a five year old Russian boy would say. It's like people just say things like, there used to be sort of a concept of. As you said something, you were like, I'm pretty sure this is true. I read it. You would, you would defend it in some way or like reference an article? Like, yeah, that was. I can't believe I missed the days when people would brag about all the articles they read when they're like, you know, I just read in the Atlantic that this is happening. I just read the New York Times. At least you're like pretending to know something that you were just. We used to pretend that we had integrity. We don't even pretend anymore. 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We were returning home. And one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Kath and Andrew.
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I got to sit in the driver's seat. I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age. That's Andrew, a real United pilot. These small interactions can shape a kid's future. It felt like I was the captain. Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever. That's how good leads the way. Think your lashes have hit their limit? Discover limitless length and full volume with Maybelline's Sky High Mascara. The Flex Tower Brush bends to volumize and extend every single lash from root to tip. And the lightweight bamboo infused formula makes lashes feel weightless. Now in eight bold shades so you can take your lashes to new heights every day. Visit maybelline.com to shop Sky High mascara now. Robots being conscious is not my concern. It's humans becoming unconscious that is my major concern. Because they're building the robots to live in our homes. That's all this AI stuff, like babysit our kids and watch us. And it's gonna have to be unconscious cause it's based on our behavior, right? So. So the AIs and the robots are only gonna be as conscious as the data input that it's based on will be. And that data input, Pat, tell me if I'm wrong. It's gonna be anyone who has spoken publicly, right? It's gonna take TV shows, interviews, like podcast episodes. So it's gonna be based on people who sign up to be forward facing. That's gonna be what's available. Which means it's either gonna be super conscious and moral because the people that are forward facing tend to pretend they're way more moral than they are. And they all have to say, like, they're empaths and stuff. Or it'll be super negative and misanthropic because, like, AI can't really pick up sarcasm. So it'll just seem like humans are very mean and like, really negative. So. Right. Or all of our devices are recording at all times and it will be an amalgam of all of us and everything we've ever said and done. In which case we really can't complain if the AI are like, rude, like dolts, because it's just all of us in a big soup of AI, Right? So I don't know. The point is that this list was released, okay, of all the jobs and Pat will put it up. I need you to put up this list because for some reason, it looks like it was written, like, on a typewriter. I don't know why. Like, released during prohibition for no reason. Why does it look like it's from, like, a book of spells, like, in the woods of Transylvania? Like, I don't. I don't know why they use ransom note font. But the point is, there's a couple of jobs that will not be here very soon, and I do think they're worth talking about. Okay, so one of the jobs that's probably going to go away are translators and interpreters. So, I mean, this is a bummer for me because I love it when the sign language interpreters come up. When I do stand up, it's always, like, so funny. But someone has to request it. I always ask the venue. I'm like, can I request it? They're like, no, that would be like. Like, literal fraud. I'm like, but then I get to watch a show during my show, and it's, like, the best. So anyway, I think that translators, interpreters, this will become less necessary not only because there's an app to translate. It's more that, like, the Internet has made us so deeply hate anyone who is not exactly like us, that no one is interested in anyone who speaks another language or what they have to say. Or translating what an immigrant says, like, doesn't serve any agendas, you know? Like, they want to be able to say, like, no, this immigrant abandoned their child. You're like, I don't think that's what happened. Yeah, they know. They just, like, got to the border, were like, get that baby away from me. I'm like, I don't. Can I hear what the immigrant is really saying? I don't know. Seems like, well, that one's clutching a child very closely. No, that one's stealing it. That's kidnapping it. I don't know. I don't know. We need translators for our own language at this point. Like, I will hear one of my own friends talking about a breakup, and I have no clue what she's saying. Like, I'm like, it's. Someone translate. She'll be like, he gaslit me. And his love language is dismissive, avoidant. I'm a Sagittarius moon, and I was told by Jay Shetty to look at my inner cosmos. So now I'm looking for a new partner on Lemonade. Like, can someone translate what she just said? Because I am truly baffled. Okay, can someone. Can someone translate what my friend in Illinois just said to me? Because I'm very Close to submitting paperwork to put her in a conservatorship. Like, I think we're having enough trouble communicating in the same language. We have to translate ourselves now when we talk. Because companies, they only stay companies for like a year. Isn't this, like, wild, Pat? Like, when you're talking, you can't even say sentence without having to mention, like, a merger or like, a legal corporate nightmare. I'll be like, so in my last Instagram post, meta. So I just. I just saw this thing on Twitter X. It's like, we have to subtitle what we're saying at all times. I'm like, yeah, it's a show on Paramount plus, which is also. I think you can get it via DirecTV and you streaming on Fubo. And then in a week it's on Hulu. But yeah, it's Paramount Plus. Like, we can't even communicate in our own language to each other. Another one that I thought was kind of fascinating was historians. So historian, I guess, is going to be an obsolete job pretty soon because of AI, According to this list. Were historians ever real? Listen, you're a historian. What does that even mean? Like, you're an expert on the gossip of the. You're an expert on the game of telephone, but you're an expert on what white people said very defensively, like, no, no. Texas was founded because the natives surrendered the land willingly and gladly. Okay, it's like, okay, why are. Like, why are you mad at me? I don't. What kind of person is like, I'm a historian. I am the keeper of the history. I'm the authority on the. I study the past. Like, imagine dating a historian. Like, what a nightmare. Like, they're supposed to be, like, so smart and put him on a pedestal. But it's like, imagine dating one. He's like, yeah, well, five years ago when you said you weren't friends with your ex, and you're like, oh, my God, you're just, like, obsessed with the past. Like, that's your thing. Like, also, the AI of historians will be based on what human historians discovered or deduced before them. So it's going to be just as accurate or inaccurate as an actual flawed human, right? And the AI is going to be imperfect because it could be meddled with. It could be hacked, right, by whoever's running it or whoever's good enough to be able to hack it. Whatever, dork. But historians, like, they've always been biased and influenced by whatever university they were at or whatever access they had. Like, you know, there Was like a historian on the Civil War who didn't go to Gettysburg because his ex wife, like, loved Gettysburg. Yeah. Like, there's. That's how humans work, right? Like, there's more to learn about what's going on at Gettysburg. Like, there was a new, like, bullet pocket found. That's like a bunch of new bullets or something were found by, like, a YouTuber using a metal detector or whatever. And the historian was like, I think we. I know, I got it. It's like, oh, but there's new bullets. Mr. Beast found all these bow and arrows. Like, no, no, no. I think I would know. It's like, just. It's. You know that. That happens, right? Humans, we get hacked by our emotions and resentments and our need to impress people and our insecurities, whereas AI is going to get hacked by humans who are getting hacked by their emotions, resentments, and need to impress. So it's like, it's going to be a whole rat king that kind of comes clean in the wash. But it does make me wonder, like, what makes you a historian? Where do you get off? Like, you see how now, like, people will do podcasts where they do 10 hours on the Civil War and they're not a historian per se, and that's their whole thing. They'll be like, I'm not a historian. And it's like, well, you just did 10 hours on something and you've read every history book by a famous historian. So if you're a historian and I read all your books, doesn't that make me a historian or. No, Like, I know everything. You know, if you give me the recipe to a meal and I make it. Am I a gourmet chef now? Most historians don't read the things that they don't deem historian approved. So I feel like a lot of them have active blind spots. Like, anyone who uses their critical thinking would actually have more insight than someone who's basing everything on what was already written by people. That there was a lot of scurvy back then. I wouldn't trust everybody's account of what went down back when hookworm was afoot. Historians are responsible for the textbooks we saw in school, and there was not a lot of critical thinking around. Like, the illustrations, for example. It was like, okay, Christopher Columbus discovered America. Historians told us that. And then this always cracks me up. The picture was the Pilgrims, and there's their swashbuckler shoes and their top hat and their jacket, their buckles, okay? And then the Native Americans were just in, like, a loincloth like, anyone who was using their brain would go, this doesn't look like the same temperature. And I feel like the blankets the colonizers were giving them, they wouldn't be wrapped in a bow. They'd be giving them the blankets with a very long stick. They're not just handing them over. Okay. Another one that's kind of similar is writers and authors, which, like, I mean, the printing press kind of did this. Like, I am fascinated by how many things we're terrified of now that, you know, past generations have been terrified of. It just looked kind of different, you know, like, as soon as the printing press came along, it did affect writing. Like, I don't think it's going to replace writing. I think it's going to dramatically affect writing in a way that actually makes human written stuff even more valuable. The fact that it took so long to hand write things, part of the reason writing was so good, because most of them just made their wives do it for them, right? And then so it was more emotional and thoughtful. And then they had the printing press, and then it started getting sort of more, you know, quick and more terse. AI is going to replace authors. Like, okay, there's a lot of human authors that maybe should be replaced. Okay. Neil Gaiman comes to mind. Wouldn't mind if I wrote whatever he thought he was writing. The guy that wrote Winnie the Pooh. I feel like I would have put pants on the bear. At least whoever wrote Anne of Green Gables, had that been AI, they would have been like, oh, a brother and sister who adopts a teenage girl. No, I went to Prince Edward island to perform, and it's the home of Anne of Green Gables. I was like, why do I feel like. I thought this was like, grandparents and their granddaughter? This is a brother and sister who just adopted a hot redhead to work around the house. Anyhoo, I think that no one knows. Cause no one's read it. So everyone pretends they've read it. Here's the catch is when you pretend you read a book, you didn't. Then later, someone's like, wait, that's what that was about? And you're like, what? And they're like, you weirdo, you love that book. I'm like, no, I didn't read it. No, I swear I didn't just love a book about a brother and sister who adopted a teenager or kidnapped her. Who knows? I got to read the Cliff Notes a little more carefully next time. But here's the thing about A.I. all right? So whether or not the book is good depends on what data they're putting in, right? So if most novels are bad, which means most AI novels will be bad, right? Because that's what it's based on. And whether or not they're good or not depends on what data set it's given. So if they put all the good novels in to the AI, that's not going to make a good novel either. I think putting all the bad novels in has a chance of making a good novel because at least it'll be, like, weird. But mixing a ton of original novels, like, let's only put the good ones in so that the AI makes good novels, that's going to be a mess. So, like, bad ingredients mixed together for food always works, right? Always. Like if you go like, like butter hamburger, like you just the more butter and bad ingredients and bacon and sausage and cheese you put together. Delicious, right? Bad ingredients make something delicious, but a bunch of good ingredients doesn't make something delicious because they're all too specific and unique. Like. Like steak tart, cherry salad, yams with marshmallows. If you mix that together, it's nuts. Because they're all too unique, right? So putting a bunch of good writing into AI into that brain, it's not going to make good AI writing. It's probably going to be worse than humans bad writing because it's trying to mix too many specific tones. It's just going to sound like a Jamiroquai song or something. Like, it's just going to be like, just wing dings, like a nightmare. So I'm actually not too worried about that. I feel like AI honestly, is only going to replace bad writing and will make good writing even more valuable. Right? Another one, which, by the way, this is actually shocking that they've included this because I actually think this is the wrongest one on this list. Ticket agents and travel clerks, they've been trying to replace these people for, I mean, truly, as long as I've been flying. All right? With computers and palm readers and eye scanners and self checkout baggage sticker, gumball machines. And honestly, it's so amazing. Like, you would be shocked at how many humans are required to get one piece of luggage onto a moving belt at the airport. Like it. Every time I go to the airport, we got this. We got a machine that's going to do this. They're just here to scan it, put it on the thing. Done. Every time I go to the airport, there's a new Hewlett Packard Blade Runner contraption. Like Elizabeth Holmes made a New Theranos for bags. And I go to the airport, there's like. There's truly six people trying to get one little tablet to function, you know? And they're like. You can see it in their eyes. They're like, this is the thing they sent to replace me. Like, that thing is supposed to scan people's digital boarding pass, yet no one can hold their phone up to digitally scan it because it has to turn. When you hold up a thing, it turns the photo turns and gets horizontal, and you have to turn the arrow to make it go. Has anyone. Anytime someone tries to show you a YouTube video, it's like, boom. And they're like, well, you got to turn it. And they try to turn it. It's like, well, your turn thing isn't on. And that. It's like, no big. Nowhere in the instructions is it. Have your turning. What's the thing I'm talking about that. What's it called?
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Have rotate image on. It's not in the. It's like, no guns, no brass knuckles, no nunchucks like it. So airports just keep trying to build machines to replace humans at the airport, but the. It's never going to work until AI builds the machines, because right now, humans are building the machines. And. And clearly the people building machines fly private. That's the problem with all these Silicon Valley billionaire dorks that are making all this stuff because they don't fly public. They have no idea how any of this operates. Like, any person who's flown public would be more qualified to make one of these machines than anyone in Silicon Valley because they have no clue what they're even trying to solve. It's like. It's exactly like Liz Holmes when she was making the Theranos machines. She's like, yeah, you know how everyone just wants a blood printer on their coffee table in their apartment? You know. Know how, like, what? It's like Elon Musk making Tesla's fart. It's like, yeah. You know how, like, everyone thinks it's funny for your car to fart and put on light shows? We're like, no. No, I don't. No one likes that. No. You know how, like, every adult thinks life's just a complete joke? Like, no. No one wants their car to be a light show. It has a light show. No, they don't. They want their cars to get them to their job while their job still exists for another couple of weeks and maybe if you're going to have your car do something. What about it? Like, dispenses food or, like, clean water. Like, what about that? Or, like, I don't know. Because, like, no, Most people want their cars to not, like, project bright lights and laser beams because we need to be able to sprint from the ER to try to run out on a $5,000 bill from needing to get a tooth extracted because dental has never been covered by any insurance. So I need to be able to get to my car with no light show. I want the nurse chasing me to not know what car I'm trying to get away in. You can't make a smart machine for the airport because the airport's too dumb. Robots run on efficiency, and there's nothing efficient about the airport. So AI would just think it was a construction site. They'd just like, this is dangerous. Like, everyone needs to get out of here. They'd be like, no, why would I check bags into this junkyard next to the mental health facility, okay? There's too many people crying that we can't. We just need to shut everything down. They're like, we. We need to administer meds to these people, okay? They're supposed to be sleeping, and they're getting on big machines. Like, I don't think the AI would even know where to start. So it's like, none of these are going to be replaced until they're functioning well enough for an AI to even recognize them as something that's efficiently functioning. Like, that's the thing about. Is there going to be an AI President? Well, the government would have to function first in a way that an AI could figure out how to make it keep working.
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The minister of state in Albania is.
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AI Is this recent?
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Yeah, this is like, a few months ago. Named Diella.
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How's it going?
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And I don't know. Well, one of the first decisions that it made was to create a cabinet and replace much of the cabinet with AI agents. They're the only country that's actually doing the experiments that. That you're talking about Albania. I'll keep an eye on it.
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You know, there's a couple of things I want to say, but I'm going to bite my tongue until I learn more about Albania. I'm not going to have an Oxnard situation with Albania, but I'm going to look into that. Pat and I have a lot to say on that. And I think, actually, the most cruel thing you can do on a podcast is just go, hey, Albania is a government AI Anyway, next up, without any context or letting people know. So you guys Google it, Just have that be your Algorithm all Albania algo. I'm gonna try to keep mine. Lily Allen for now. Thanks. Holiday shopping season is officially here and Uncommon Goods takes the stress out of gifting with thousands of unique high quality finds you will not see anywhere else. I am finding stuff on this website that I truly never seen before. It's independent artists. It's. It'll be give you a. The person. I could read their copy but this is, this is, this is like where I shine is gifting. Gifting something unique that nobody else has. Like I'm the one who just got my cousin a bracelet from the 50s that was like a tag. Like what it was tag bracelets with my uncle's name on it. Like it was. It had her birthday on it in the back. Like engraved. Found it. Uncommon Goods has something for everyone. Gardeners, book lovers, foodies. When you shop at Uncommon Goods you're supporting artists and small independent businesses and a lot of their products are made in small batches. So when it's gone east, gone. And with every purchase they put back $1 to a nonprofit partner of your choice. Cross off the names on your Christmas list before you have to rush at the buzzer to get 15% off your next gift. Go to UncommonGoods.com Whitney that's UncommonGongs.com Whitney for 15% off Uncommon Goods. We're all out of the ordinary. This website is seriously awesome by the way. Seriously, seriously dope. This segment is sponsored by Home Chef. Between school nights, holiday chaos and pretending to be a functional adult, the last thing I want to stress about is what's for dinner. Home Chef has completely fixed that for me for my child. Fresh ingredients, they show up at my door. They're pre portioned with recipes that do not require a culinary degree. But they make me look like I actually have one. Home Chef is rated number one by users and they have teamed up with Gordon Ramsay. Gordon is that French Gordo. Gordo. Gordo Ramso. To bring his five star stress free recipe straight to your kitchen. You can choose from one of his co branded dishes across Home Chef's culinary collection. Classic meal kits and express options. So you get that chefy moment without the meltdown. Microwave options. There's also a family menu. If you actually like have a schedule, it's like there's 30 like meal options you can choose from. It's actually like amazing. They sent meatballs recently and my kid was just. It was. It's kept us out of therapy frankly going at this age. I mean I would win to be clear. But not quite ready. Let's hold off a couple months. Home Chef customers save an average of $86 per month on groceries. For a limited time, Home Chef is offering my listeners 50% off and free shipping for your first box, plus free dessert for life. Go to homechef.com Whitney that's home chef.com Whitney for 50% off your first box and free dessert for life. Home chef.com/ Whitney must be an active subscriber to receive free dessert.
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Another thing that might be replaced is just as important as presidents. Radio DJs. Radio DJs. I mean, it's just. I don't know, dude. It's. There's certain things we're kind of like, godspeed. I don't know, like radio DJs. What does that even mean? Is that the. The only thing worse than a human saying like hey, hey. Welcome to Sticky and the Worm in the Morning. Hey, hey. It's Blow hard. Blow hard and Beaver Welcome. Coming at you live from Tampa, Sheila B. Isn't in today. Hopefully she's getting her boobs fixed. Waco Jocko sitting in here this morning and it's time to rank the hottest blonde senators. Let's go. You're like, what? It's 8am Guys. I don't know. I do feel like if AI replaces radio, it's. They're just gonna be the AI version of that. Which would be more comforting? Like, oh God, thank God a computer thought of this and not a hu. Human. Like, I'd at least like to pretend that no human being would think that that's a good idea to say at 7:30 in the morning. Like, this is why AI is going to be so apocalyptic. It's not because they're going to replace us. It's because it's going to hold up a mirror to us. Like, we're gonna. We're gonna look at AI behavior and go, oh my God. Like, that seems normal to us before we saw it in the mirror. Is AI like, we're gonna think that AI is mocking us, but it's just reflecting us. Like, that's what a good impression does, right? It makes you realize how ridiculous something is, is because when someone does something crazy, they don't think it's crazy. So you kind of accept it and you get desensitized to it. But when someone else acts like the person that's crazy and is sort of mock, that's when you're like, oh, when someone else does that, it makes me realize how wild it is. It was like when Tina Fey did Sarah Palin. It was like, whoa. Like you had gotten so used to her Sarah Palin doing it shamelessly that you didn't realize how weird it was until someone normal did it. And that's what AI is going to do, you know, and all of these things. But it's also, I think, making us realize, like, how egomaniacal a lot of these jobs were. Political scientists, I guess, is maybe going to be phased out. Like, what are you even talking about in any situation when someone's talking about politics now, they're already a robot. They're just like, Hillary good, Palin bad, Biden alive. Like, they don't. People aren't even using critical thinking around politics anyway. And like, the thing that is supposed to differentiate humans and robots is the ability to think critically. Political scientists, they survey public opinion. What? Like how? Like this is they they that people walking by on the street has I, first of all, I've never been asked for my opinion on anything by any scientist. Like, like out in the world, have you? I've never seen anyone on TV either get public opinion correct. Truly not once. This is why people find comedians, like, refreshing, because we're in a Different state every weekend. And we meet so many people and we're like, none of the people. Like, and, and America is upset about what. And then trans swimmers. No, they're not. No, they're not. I go to a different state every weekend, it never comes up. No one's like, why is that a trans swimming? Like, no one thinks of it, no one's bringing it up, no one's talking about it. Like, I don't, like, I don't know where you're getting your data, but like, this must just be your algorithm, dude, this is your porn searches or something. Trans swimmers is not on the top of everybody's mind. So and so wild to me that like political scientists, historians, like, okay, I just hear like gatekeepers more than anything, you know. And it's been like that with journalism too. And journalism is on this list. Journalists and mathematicians, journalists, like, which by the way, journalists is so funny. Like, did we ever have journalists? Was that ever a real thing? Like, first of all, I wanted to be a journalist. I went to Annenberg School of Communications for journalism. Like, I wanted to be a journalist. And I got in there and I was like, oh, this is fake. This is, this is like a superiority complex gone like rampant. These are like people that want everyone to agree with them and are going to go to school to get some kind of degree, making people listen to them. It's like it's thought police under the guise of like, I'm creative or something, or I'm trying to get to the honest truth. But it's, it's not that like journalists have become just smear campaign people. They, they, it's mean girls. It's a lot of mean girls who try and humiliate people under the guise of objective journalism. Like, journalists would like go into celebrities homes for a couple days or spend time with them and then do a piece about what it's like to be with them. Like, which is so wild when you think about it. It's like, like, my take is gonna, is the take in. First of all, every journalist who has ever followed me around have spent days and days with me and they're always start with some. Like, yeah, like, you know, they really think I should cover you. And like, okay, first of all, hi. One guy started with, I've never heard of you, but my wife likes you. So you know, like, cool, cool. I remember being like, should we cancel? I don't. So it's like, okay, this is a person who doesn't like me already and is coming in to sort of give it give me what I deserve or something. And they're. Because they don't like me, they're going to be unbiased and it's not going to be like a love letter. Like, like journalists think in order to be unbiased or to seem objective that they have to just straight up be mean. And that's the new vibe. And it's essentially professional bullies. It's like trolls. It's people that went to college for trolling. They're like, I want to be so good at trolling. I, I want to be a troll artist, frankly. Journalists, art critics, movie critics, they call it criticism now. It's like, get around the fact that it's just straight up bullying. Like, there was a time where journalists, you know, would at least pretend to have like a modicum of respect or a fair approach, but in a lot of ways it does feel like the revenge of the nerds, you know, but now the revenge of the nerds that are. The journalists are coming after other nerds. They're coming after comedians now, right? So comedians, our success is revenge of the nerds. And you guys are revenge of the nerd. Like, you don't. Nerds don't come after nerds. Like, what are you doing? Like, why write a hit piece at all? Just, why not just ignore them if you don't like them? The idea that you have to go out of your way. I prefer some incel on Reddit being like, yeah, just small. It's like, I actually prefer that to a three page critique of me. And yes, I am talking about something specific and I haven't really brought it up and because it felt like, okay, this is journalists. This is what they do. It's criticism. Like, I'm in the public eye, like, I'm going to be criticized. But then I'm finding the same journalists that were such bullies to comedians and actors and artists and stuff are now trying to come after the people in the comments sections, the trolls. It's like, no, but that's you. But you're a troll. That's what you are. That's. You went to school for it. These people just do it as their side hustle, you know, like, so these, these journalists that write these, like, well thought out pieces about how much they hate somebody, it's like, why do you get to work for the New Yorker? Like every journalist that I have had, like, do an interview with me or something. It was like, okay, there was a guy named Andrew Goldman, I'm not exaggerating, he was fired from The New York Times, because of the questions he asked me. I was 27 years old. I didn't know anything. I didn't realize how bad they were. You know? He was like, did you sleep your way to the top? Like, that was a question he asked me when I was 27 years old. And I. I guess I assumed he was joking. Like, and I was so excited that he thought I was on top. I was like, am I on top? Like, is this the top? Like, what? Like, I was just so grateful to be there that I didn't notice. And then Jennifer Weiner, author, started tweeting about it. Like, this is disgusting. Like, to ask me if I slept my way to the top. Like, meet my boyfriend. Like, you know what? Just do your research. I thought you were a journalist. If you had done your research, you wouldn't have to ask me if I slept my way to the top. You would see that I'm only into broke dudes, all right? I couldn't sleep my way to the top even if it worked, right? Because I. I'm not attracted to powerful men. I like a rescue dog. That's my thing, all right? I would. At the time, I was truly dating someone, like, homeless when he did this interview. You do your research on who I've dated. If I've slept my way to the top, just go do that research. Go find it. Why are you asking me at 6am on an interview that you opened with? Like, I don't get it, but my wife loves you. Like, can I talk to her? She seems cool. And then I had forgotten about this piece that Emily Nussbaum, she's a TV critic. She signed up to criticize TV for a living. The thing that just brings us all joy. The thing that's, like, a bunch of broken people that weren't loved as children, want to put on plays to feel less alone and seen. We all agree that comedians and artists had some kind of trauma as kids, were like, sad clowns. Like, oh, something awful must have happened to them. And then when we, like, try to make people laugh, everyone's like, we're going to. I'm going to critique you and put you in your place. It's like, we hate ourselves. What are you doing? So she wrote a piece that was so sadistic. And so I'm just going to say mean is the best way to put it under the guise of intellectual. So a lot of journalists use this, you know, degree, which is supposed to symbolize a loyalty to veracity, and they have a, you know, a florid vocabulary. So somehow the hatred is gilded in this kind of, I guess, passion for literature. So it's not just trolling, right? Cause I'm getting paid to do it. But chances are if she didn't get paid to do it, she would just be tweeting nasty stuff anyway. So I actually, again, have more respect for the person that just does it on their own time, but. So she criticizes television because tv, we need to really hold it accountable. It does cure cancer. And frankly, most of it should be in the Louvre. Right? Which, by the way, I think the most valuable piece of art in the Louvre at this point is the post it note that shows that the security password for the Louvre is just Louvre, the password to an art museum with priceless art being the name of the art museum as a security password. I mean, truly is the most priceless art fathomable. If you just took a photo of the password, it could be the only exhibit in the Louvre. So this journalist, you know, this is the kind of stuff we're worried is going to be replaced by AI. Like, not that worried. She wrote a piece on me. I had two TV shows come out in the same year. I was probably 27, 28 when they started airing, but 27 when I sold them. I had a lot of feedback coming at me. Girls came out the same year. New Girl, a bunch of, like, funny girl shows came out. So this is. This is the journalism that we've been cool with, she writes. Cummings has attracted a lot of vitriol online, in part because she fits into another subset of female comedians. She's this year's sexy girl hate magnet. Well, you're the one that hates me, though. And you writing this piece for the New Yorker is now making it acceptable for other people to hate me. So you hating me is kind of the. The thing. Okay. Then she just moves on to randomly trashing other funny girls, she says. Olivia Munn filled that role last year and Chelsea Handler before her and Silverman before her. These performers diverge widely. I adore Silverman and can take or leave Munn. Handler bugs me, but they share some traits. She bugs me. Bugs me. That's it. That's all she's. That's journalism. Is. Is that critique? Is that criticism? Doesn't criticism entail some kind of explanation or an elegant thesis of why you dislike someone? Saying someone bugs me. I can't even get away with saying that. I actually would feel too guilty even saying that in a casual conversation because it's so sloppy, without any kind of. It bugs Me. She bugs you. Like, I don't even know what you're saying. It is the sloppiest jab I can truly think of. So basically, you're just saying, like, a successful, funny woman just, like, bugs me. I don't know. Like, I don't have time to get into it because I still have to write three more pages about how much I hate Whitney Cummings. But, like, Chelsea Handler bugs me. Just delete that sentence. Just don't bring her into it. Then she bugs me. Is that. Is that criticism? Is that journalism? That's a wild thing to say about a very successful woman. But anyway, dude journalist. Like, I also think that she, like, put in there to be, like, cute, too. It's like, she bugs me. But, like, you know how eloquent I normally am. And, like, if someone bugs me, like, need I say more the entitlement of just saying someone bugs you with no Olivia Munn, I could take her or leave her. Excuse me, Brett Ratner, why do you talk like a bro? That's like trying to sleep with these women? Is that I could take her or leave her. Then don't include her in this. What about, don't invol. Why bring her name into it? This isn't even a critique. This is just misogynistic musings. Also, are you in a rush? Like, you know what, Emily Nussbaum, why don't you just, like, I know you're about to write three pages on how much you hate me, but, like, maybe just, like, out of, like, they have a modicum of respect for these other women that you just randomly just, like, slapped in the face with. Honestly, I gotta say, like, the fact that she at least took three pages to insult me was, like, a little more respectful than being like, I could take her. Leave her. She bugs me. I think that's weirdly worse. So I don't. I. This is what I expect from Internet trolls way more than someone who, like, tries to make their hate seem like some kind of enlightened poetry. So anyway, I love Olivia, and I love Chelsea and Emily. You bug me. So she goes on to say, they've got dirty mouths and model skinny looks. They get accused of sleeping their way to the top. By who? By who? You. By you. That. So there's no footnote. There's no quote there. I can actually give you a quote, which is, you could have at least said Andrew Goldman, who did imply that. Just put that. Just put some proof in here somewhere, because then it's just you, right? Isn't the Whole point of journalism is that there's proof attached. This person's done some research, like I'm sources or quotes like critics basically just get to be like Reddit incels that just get to say, like, she. Instead of saying, you slept your way to the top, they could go. She gets accused of sleeping her way to the top by who? By Reddit who? Why even include that? Why are you even down there, sweetheart? Nowhere in this. She didn't call me. She didn't ask me, she didn't ask around. She didn't call my boyfriend, who I had at the time, who I'd been with for three and a half years. Nowhere did she say, you know, Whitney is actually a serial monogamist who stays with guys truly years longer than she should because she's codependent and frankly was so broke she couldn't leave anyone. She had no place to live. Like, but she gets accused of being like, at least do that. At least tell the truth and say, but this is what she's accused of. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. She writes with varying degrees of satirical intent. They play the card instead of the. The quirky card. I. Okay, okay. I play the card like, what are you in my TV show? I'm in a relationship for four years with the guy I'm with. So is that slight to be with someone every four years? So I just don't understand when, if something was bad journalism, you got to just call it critique. I'm a critic. I'm not going to, like, do research. I'm not going to, like, make this accurate. So it's called criticism. Actually, it's not journalism per se, because then this journalist, in addition, this critic, in addition to trashing me, she goes on for pages and then pages and pages about how much she hates me. And then she. Then she does drop a quote. She did do some research at the end. She wrote on Twitter, a sitcom observer pointed out that the version of Whitney on 2 Broke Girls would hate the version of Whitney on Whitney. And then she wrote, and that's accurate. I believe they mean Max on Two Broke Girls would hate Whitney on Whitney. And then Emily Nussbaum, the journalist critic, says that's accurate. I feel like as someone who wrote both characters, I would know. And that's actually not accurate. You're wrong. That's not true. Max from two Book Girls would love Whitney from Whitney because Max hates haters. Okay? Max would not like a female journalist who calls herself a critic tearing down a female comic the first year she ever made anything. And that's what she ends the piece with. She ends the piece with a quote from a Twitter troll and then agrees with the Twitter troll. Oh, wait, no. And if some folks get mad at Cummings for taking up two slots, that's not an unreasonable response. Yeah, it is though. That's an incredibly unreasonable, like, first of all, no one's mad. No one's mad. No one's like, Whitney Cummings has two slots. No one knows what you're saying. Who is this for? Who's this article for? No, first of all, it is absolutely unreasonable to be mad at a comedian if she made two shows that the network tested and tested the highest, which is why they got put on the air. They tested the best. They don't put on something that doesn't test well. They're the best ones that year. And yes, it is completely unreasonable to be mad at a 27 year old girl who's winning in a male dominated business. I truly can't think of anything more unreasonable than someone being mad at a woman for making television. I bring this up because there's a lot of journalism you can't debunk. Because I'm like, well, I wasn't there. How would I know? I'm bringing this one up because I actually, I am the person who can actually debunk what she's saying is unequivocally true. Okay? She says that's accurate, which something that's completely inaccurate. This is truly just lie after lie is what this is. But it's criticism, so it's fine. I guess you're allowed to lie as long as you hate the person, as long as you're critical of them. The facts are not important whatsoever. So do. Okay, I mean, look, I'm the first in line to help defend journalism against AI, but I don't think anyone's going to miss this type of thing. I don't think society is going to fall apart if we don't have more female journalists tearing down female comedians for truly no apparent reason. I think we'll survive as a species if there's less misogynistic elitist critiques. In 2016, she did win the Pulitzer Prize for criticism. So sick, dude, sick. You are the best hater we could find. You are the most critical person.
C
That's the kind of validation a person like that needs, by the way.
B
But that, no, no, but they all band together. So then at npr, this woman, Linda Holmes, wrote a piece about the piece. I mean, people were writing pieces about this piece. It was so Brutal. But, but all the more the ones that wanted to get in her good graces because she's kind of this, like, queen of criticism. She wrote. Linda Holmes at NPR wrote, if you only read one, if you only read one piece of cultural criticism today that you don't find at npr, make it this terrific column by Emily Nussbaum in the New Yorker. It's Emily's debut, is their TV critic and explains better than I have why Whitney Cummings is, as Emily quite brilliantly puts it in the first sentence, the year's most unnerving success. First of all, this person's admitting that she's not that good at explains it. I can't explain things well, so read this person. Can you imagine NPR being like, what are you doing? Can you pretend like you're good at this? Imagine writing for the New York Times. Hey, I don't really know how to explain this. We should read the Chicago Tribune article about it. It's like very good. Like, it's a terrific column, you guys. It's like terrific how she calls. She says that Chelsea Handler bugs her and that she could take or leave Olivia Munn. And she says that a Twitter troll is accurate. Brilliantly puts it the year, the year's most unnerving success. So these journalists, they band together, they're these critics, these people that have never taken a risk in their life. They've never done standup comedy, they've never made anyone laugh, they've never made a TV show. They wouldn't even attend TV tapings. When I was like, do you want to come to a show? And you can see that it's a live studio audience. They wouldn't even come. They, they've never made a movie. And they, they think I'm unnerving. I'm unnerving. I don't know what AI is going to do, but I do think that AI is not going to trash a 28 year old girl living her dream or find it unnerving. I just don't know what we're going to do without all these critics, you know, who went to NYU and Dartmouth and Oberlin to study feminism, only to spend their career hunting down and trashing other women by using Twitter trolls as sources. Like, what would we do if these women didn't band together to say female comedians are unnerving and tell each other how brilliant each other are to then set the stage that it's perfectly okay to trash that female comedian for truly years after that? By the way, this was in 2011. I was the most unnerving thing about 2011. That was also the year that Anthony Weiner posted his dong on Twitter by accident. It's when Charlie Sheen had his meltdown member and was like tiger blood. But I was the unnerving person on tv. Got it. Cool. Herman Cain had to withdrawal from his Republican presidential campaign because of sexual harassment. But I'm unnerving. The real problem is Whitney Cummings. Not all these people in power journalists. They create an environment where trashing women publicly is okay because they went to school for it. Since AI is coming along, I just don't know how we are going to destroy the self esteem of the next generation of female creatives without critics. You know what else might go away, Pat? Geographers.
C
Geographers or geographers?
B
Geographers. Listen to me. Geographers. Is that aren't maps always have maps ever been right? I'm not trying to be like. I just. How could a map have been right? Like I'm not even mad. Like, even if a cartographer like is like, hey, it's. It's like a. It's like 70% there. I'd be like, dude, that's amazing. That's actually if someone's like I think I got it. It might be off like 100 or 200 miles. I'd be like, that's incredible. That's like the idea that anyone could actually compile how big a continent is for real is in. That's my pyramids. Like people like who built the pyramids? I'm like, who figured out the size of Italy? Because I can't. There's no way. It's a rough s. Isn't all a rough estimate. It's gotta be right until a satellite does it. Until a satellite does it. That's when we actually found stuff. That's when we found out that Africa was way smaller on a map than it actually was. Right. Like they were trying to make it seem like it was way smaller than it was. They call it the Mercator projection. Russia appears larger than Africa on maps because of the Mercator projection, which distorts land masses farther from the equator. This projection stretches areas at high latitudes, making countries like Russia look much larger than they are, while Africa's size is less exaggerated because it is mostly located near the equator. This sounds like someone that did something really racist trying to like explain why wasn't true. Whatever they did. In reality, Africa is about 70% larger than Russia, which is the largest country by area. This feels like a statement that someone was scrambling to make. I do feel like I would not be surprised if we got more satellites in space and we found out that New Jersey was, like, the same size as Africa. Like, the number of people I meet from New Jersey doesn't fit how big New Jersey is on a map.
C
Their major export is people from New Jersey.
B
But then I don't. And then Texas. Like, I don't buy it. I drive across Texas. It's like three hours. I'm like, I don't think. Like, I feel like New Jersey needs Texas's publicists. Like, it just doesn't. It never adds up to me, you know? But if we. Well, if you want to just placebo the maps, that's fine. Come on in. Okay. I have so much more to talk about. I'll have to do it next episode about some jobs that are less impacted by AI. So you'll know what to send your children to school for, because right now, mine's just going to school for Bluey. That's pretty much the only education we're working on over here. It's just nightmare. And he's Australian. Is my cake. And have an Australian accent. This is like, honestly, I can't. That would be the worst thing you could do to me. You know my. You know about me in that accent. I can't. You know, I don't. It's not. It's not. When I meet an Australian person, I'm like, can you just turn it down like, 10 volts?
C
Like you know what you're doing?
B
Yeah. It's not like, is everything a joke to you? Like, the Australian accent is like, can we just. Some of us have jobs. Okay. Some of us aren't like, cowabunga. It's just so, like. I don't know. It just seems a little ridiculous to me. It's also. You descend from criminals, and now you're just like. Like, it's just like, be serious. Can anyone just be. It's a level of unserious that feels disrespectful is all. Okay. I love you guys. Next week, I'm going to talk more about this and anything else that you DM me that you want me to talk about or put in the comments because I just asked on the main feed to make sure that I'm on the right track. I love you guys. Don't ride elephants. Goodbye, Sam.
Episode 316: My TV Success Was 'UNNERVING' – Why AI is Replacing Journalists
Date: November 9, 2025
This episode centers on Whitney Cummings’ reflections about internet success, public critique, and the encroachment of AI on creative and information-based professions. Whitney weaves humor, personal anecdotes, and biting cultural commentary, particularly addressing the absurdities of criticism, shifting social norms (such as marriage), and why AI is coming for jobs like journalists, historians, and radio DJs.
Whitney discusses her fraught relationship with online feedback, describing both praise and criticism as emotionally fraught.
She embraces the relief found when people relate to her honesty and tenacity, especially about labeling certain toxic behaviors.
Whitney explores how criticism, especially from female journalists and critics, can shape public perception of women in entertainment.
She voices both her personal experiences and frustration at being the target of “mean girl” style critique disguised as intellectual journalism.
Notable moment of vulnerability and humor as she catalogs the shifting cultural reaction to her engagement and motherhood, musing on how marriage has moved from a mainstream expectation to a “punk rock” act, especially as monogamy becomes less common.
AI as the new disruptor for:
Whitney dissects why some jobs are vulnerable but also why human messiness can’t be fully replaced.
She satirizes both the “gatekeeper” aspect of these roles and how AI-generated results will inherit human biases, mistakes, and absurdities.
AI will likely reflect, not transcend, human dysfunction:
She deconstructs the fallacy of "objective" critique, pointing out its basis in personal taste and groupthink rather than genuine analysis.
She exposes factual errors and double standards, often with disarming candor and self-deprecating wit.
(00:32) “The comment section has hammered my heart to such a pulp that when an episode does well, I’m like... This is probably my own friends sending it to each other, being like ‘cringe.’” — Whitney
(12:24) “Now that no one wants to get married and everyone's like poly, I’m like, let's go. There’s something just, I don’t know, it’s like tradition is now sort of punk rock.”
(24:42) “The fear that everyone has that like, AI is going to become conscious is so weird to me because, like, we’re not even conscious. ... My Roomba is more conscious than a human at this point.”
(29:20) “I feel like AI honestly is only going to replace bad writing and will make good writing even more valuable.”
(45:06) “We’re gonna look at AI behavior and go, oh my god, like, that seems normal to us before we saw it in the mirror.”
(64:25) “This journalist... wrote a piece that was so sadistic. ... A lot of journalists use this degree... it’s not just trolling, right? Cause I’m getting paid to do it.”
(66:05) “That was also the year that Anthony Weiner posted his dong on Twitter by accident. ... But I was the unnerving person on TV.”
| Timestamp | Topic/Event | |-------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:30 | Whitney on the emotional toll of online comments | | 03:00 | Housewives as a mirror for real-life toxic personalities | | 07:10 | Making light of the holidays and the new “punk rock” of monogamy/marriage | | 12:24 | Societal shift in attitudes toward marriage | | 14:30 | Parenting, intrusive questions, and stitches/medical rant | | 15:45 | Unconsciousness and the everyday mindlessness of modern humans | | 23:00 | Discussion of jobs most likely to be replaced by AI | | 26:20 | Satirical takedown of historians and objectivity | | 29:20 | Impact of AI on writing, with sharp digressions on literary quality | | 39:30 | Why airport machines won’t replace humans any time soon | | 45:06 | AI as an unsettling mirror reflecting human foibles | | 58:00 | Detailed stories about journalist bullying and the psychology of critical “mean girls” | | 70:03 | Satirizing the value of geographers and map projection errors | | 73:01 | Sardonic wrap-up, promising more on the theme in future episodes |
Whitney delivers a high-wire blend of standup storytelling and cultural critique, unpacking why traditional jobs—especially those involved in gatekeeping, opinion, and culture—may be most at risk in an AI-driven world. Her main question: “Is it really a loss if jobs that exist to judge, gatekeep, and criticize are taken over by machines—if they only ever reflected society’s own biases and insecurities anyway?” For all her sardonic wit, the episode lands as a call for authenticity, empathy, and maybe a little less “criticism for criticism’s sake.”