Good Guys Podcast Episode Summary

Episode Title: Gas Station "Supplements", Steroids, & Other Lies
Hosts: Josh Peck, Ben Soffer
Guest: Ben Greenfield (biohacker, longevity expert)
Date: March 23, 2026
Podcast Network: Dear Media

Episode Overview

This episode dives into fitness fads, gas station supplements (especially dubious “dick pills”), celebrity steroid use, biohacking shortcuts, and the complicated relationship people have with both “mainstream” and alternative medicine. Hosts Josh Peck and Ben Soffer are joined by health expert Ben Greenfield for a wide-ranging, provocative, and consistently funny conversation that also touches on modern gym culture, happiness, and some listener conundrums about leftovers and shared cheese.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Contingency Plans & The "Simple Life" (00:03–04:00)

• Josh jokes about being "canceled" and how his backup plan involves moving to a second or third-tier city, living off investments, and doing Instacart gigs.
• Ben reflects on the appeal of a slower, rural life but admits he's addicted to the excitement and learning that comes from his work and entrepreneurship.
• Both agree: Fantasy retirement is often simpler and more appealing than their actual “dream” lives, but neither is sure they'd really go through with it.

Memorable moment:

• Josh: "I'd just get a kick ass house for 850 grand paid off and raise these kids, live that good life..." (01:21)
• Ben: "I'd have a garden, I'd definitely have a pet goat." (03:24)

2. Perspective on Work & Service Jobs (04:00–07:08)

• The hosts debate whether complaining about work (especially in retail or minimum wage jobs) is productive or just brings others down.
• Josh shares a story about experiencing rude entitlement from consumers during a promotional event, highlighting how difficult customer-facing jobs really are.

Notable quote:

• "People deal with this sometimes eight hours a day, and it's crushing." – Josh [06:54]

3. The Modern Fitness Obsession & Biohacking with Ben Greenfield (09:09–11:56)

• Ben Greenfield (guest) shares his routine: minimal but intense workouts (single set to failure), lots of walking, routine hot/cold therapy.
• Greenfield emphasizes quality and intensity over workout length, citing studies that short bursts of vigorous activity can have significant health impacts if paired with an otherwise active life.

Top insight:

• "Vigorous intensity exercise for 10 minutes a day actually won out [for lowering mortality] ... But if you have a sedentary lifestyle, you probably have to do more than like 15 minutes a day." – Ben Greenfield [11:02]

4. Celebrity Physiques, Steroids, and Performance Enhancers (17:21–23:36)

• Discussing Hollywood “superhero” bodies (Zac Efron, Chris Hemsworth, etc.), Ben Greenfield explains that beyond training, many actors are allotted significant time and often use hormonal/peptide enhancements (TRT, peptides, sometimes even dangerous anabolic steroids).
• Impact of illicit or “gray-area” supplements, especially regarding organ/kidney health and blood pressure.
• Both male and female performance enhancement discussed—with a focus on visible side effects in women (“cannonball shoulders, super strong jawline”).

Notable quote:

• "You get a really nice body and then like high blood pressure and kidney failure..." – Ben Greenfield [18:36]

• Discussion of reality TV “super athletic women” spawns a chat about how to spot steroid use in both genders.

5. Do Shortcuts Really Work? EMS & the Limits of Biohacking (23:36–25:22)

• Ben Greenfield discusses electrical muscle stimulation suits as a genuine time-saving “hack” for building muscle, effective but makes you very sore.
• Hosts debate if they even want to be more “jacked” or happier as they are. Ben notes the strangeness of gym culture given that movement used to be a necessary part of life, not something artificially added for health.

Notable moment:

• “For most of our lives...we gardened and hunted and foraged... [now] we have to fabricate this false environment to put our muscles under strain.” – Ben Greenfield [25:42]

6. Gas Station Supplements & Penis Enhancement Fads (28:06–31:23)

• Greenfield recounts a Men’s Health investigation where he tried every “gas station dick pill,” confirming most contain disguised Viagra/Cialis (prescription meds) plus massive doses of caffeine/ephedra.
• These “supplements” may cause dangerous side effects—basically like chugging four energy drinks with Viagra.

Memorable moment:

• "It's basically like having four energy drinks all at once along with a Viagra." – Ben Greenfield [29:42]

7. Medicine: Allopathic vs. Alternative – Can You Trust Either? (31:23–37:55)

• Greenfield and the hosts discuss the limitations of conventional medicine and the rise in popularity of alternative providers.
• Ben G. explains why insurance discourages “too much” preventive testing, and why high-quality diagnostics & individualized care are usually “out of pocket” (concierge).
• Warns audiences not to blindly follow underqualified naturopaths or extreme alternative practitioners who veer into anti-science dogma. Medicine and nutrition are both prone to “baby talk” and dogmatism.

Standout quotes:

• "A lot of medical education, unfortunately, is sponsored by the pharmaceutical industry...a drug first approach." – Ben Greenfield [33:13]
• "Anything related to health can be very dogmatic—medicine, nutrition, etc. The best approach is to step back... and figure out which professional is best..." – Ben Greenfield [37:46]

8. Moron Mail: Leftovers, Cheese Etiquette, and Food Waste (43:00–48:46)

• Advice to listeners:
  • Is refusing leftovers “crazy”? Ben and Josh agree that homemade food keeps better than delivery, and food waste is rampant.
  • How to deal with a roommate eating shredded cheese straight from the bag? Both agree—gross if shared, otherwise, let people live.

Notable exchange:

• "Your hand—look, you're making me uncomfortable. Hands and cheese...this is not sanitary." – Ben [47:27]

9. Pet Peeves: “What Are You, Nuts?” Segment (48:49–55:37)

• Josh rails against food influencers who make a brand out of trashing restaurants, especially mom-and-pops, emphasizing how tough the restaurant biz really is.
• Ben’s gripe: Daylight savings and why we should just pick the current (more sunlight) time and stick with it.

Quotes:

• "I think it's super hypes restaurants almost to an extent where the restaurant could never live up to it, even if it is great...they don’t need your kitschy social media tearing them down." – Josh [50:45]
• "It's not seasonal depression. It's the fucking clock. The clock is causing your seasonal depression." – Ben [55:13]

Notable Quotes and Timestamp Highlights

• On efficient workouts:
  "I do a lot of that single set to failure training...vigorous intensity exercise for 10 minutes a day actually won out."
  – Ben Greenfield [09:42 and 11:02]

• On celebrity steroid use:
  "You get a really nice body and then high blood pressure and kidney failure..."
  – Ben Greenfield [18:36]

• On dogmatic medicine/nutrition:
  "Anything related to health...can be very dogmatic. The best approach is to step back and say, what problem am I trying to solve?"
  – Ben Greenfield [37:46]

• On influencer negativity:
  "They don’t need you and your kitschy bullshit social media tearing their food down...No brand wants to work with someone negative."
  – Josh [50:45]

• On daylight savings:
  "It's the fucking clock. The clock is causing your seasonal depression."
  – Ben [55:13]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Contingency plan for getting canceled / slow life fantasy: 00:03–04:00
• Minimum wage/gig work reflections: 04:00–07:08
• Ben Greenfield fitness & workout routines: 09:09–11:56
• Celeb physiques, steroids, peptide stacks: 17:21–23:36
• EMS suits & making gym life easier: 23:36–25:22
• Gas station “supplements” exposé: 28:06–31:23
• Conventional vs. alternative medicine debate: 31:23–37:55
• Leftovers & food waste (Moron Mail): 43:00–44:53
• Shredded cheese etiquette (Moron Mail): 46:48–48:46
• Food influencer negativity rant: 48:49–53:38
• Daylight savings rant: 54:08–55:37

Tone & Style

The episode is relentlessly conversational, irreverent, and laced with self-deprecation and sarcasm. Both hosts and their guest are unafraid to be vulnerable or poke fun at themselves—as well as at the absurdities of wellness, diet culture, and social media. Serious health and wellness advice gets filtered through real-world skepticism and comedy.

Conclusion

This episode of Good Guys offers a unique blend of wellness mythbusting and hilariously honest takes on men’s health, gym culture, and how easy it is to go astray with shortcuts—from gas station pills to influencer diets. At its core, the message is one of moderation, skepticism, and finding what really makes you happy (in and out of the gym). Plus: always check who’s sharing your shredded cheese.

For more:

• Guest’s website: BenGreenfieldLife.com
• Show notes and to send listener mail: goodguyspodcast1mail.com

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