Good Guys Podcast — Episode Summary
Episode: Joe Rogan, Short Shorts, and Cowboy Caviar
Hosts: Josh Peck & Ben Soffer
Date: February 16, 2026
Producer: Dear Media
Overview
This lively episode of Good Guys sees Josh Peck and Ben Soffer (with contributions from Olivia, the producer) riffing on everything from beards and body image to podcast legitimacy, the economics of self-produced art, industry double standards, and the power of knowing your worth. Highlight topics include GLP-1 medications and the anti-obesity paradigm, Joe Rogan & podcast awards, gatekeeping in music and entertainment, gendered expectations for TV hosts, navigating big breaks, Claudia’s experience on "Masked Singer," and post-Super Bowl gripes with a side of food hilarity.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Beard Talk, Body Image & GLP-1 Medications
Beard Transformations & Public Feedback
- Josh discusses his new beard, the love it’s getting, and what it could mean for his career.
- Ben’s not into growing facial hair, citing itchiness and personal style.
“Is it too itchy or are you doing okay?” – Josh (00:48)
GLP-1s, Weight Loss & Cultural Shame
- In-depth discussion about the stigma around weight-loss drugs (GLP-1 inhibitors, ex: Ozempic) and how they’re changing obesity treatment.
- Ben notes how criticism and suspicion (people attributing his weight loss to medication) can be both true and frustrating.
“I don't like that people will sometimes comment on my videos and be like, oh, you know, he's got GLP-1 body…anyone who knows knows. I lost this 20 years ago.” – Ben (03:29)
- Both hosts express frustration with societal resistance to medication, seeing it as self-defeating given medical progress.
“The stigma and the idea that this exists and you shouldn't take it. Nuts.” – Ben (04:57)
- Ben critiques crash diets and emphasizes the importance of lasting lifestyle changes, not fads.
Timestamps:
- GLP-1/weight loss stigma — 03:00–10:00
2. Modern Medicine, Diets, and Obesity’s Future
- Discuss the failure of most diets unless accompanied by radical lifestyle change.
- Josh muses whether obesity might become, for future generations, as avoidable as lung cancer is for non-smokers.
"We're gonna look at somebody who is obese and no longer think like, oh, I'm so sad that he's obese. We're gonna think, oh, he really could have changed that." – Ben (11:02)
Notable Moment:
- Both reflect on how accessible medication and clear cause/effect may shift public perception and responsibility around obesity.
Timestamps:
- “Obesity as a thing of the past” — 10:26–12:44
3. The Legitimacy of Podcasts: Rogan & Award Shows
Joe Rogan and the Golden Globes Podcast Award
- The guys react to Joe Rogan not winning the first-ever Golden Globes podcast award, despite his show's long tenure and reach.
“I do think it's crazy he didn't win having the number one podcast in the world.” – Ben (22:50)
- Rogan reportedly didn’t submit because he wouldn’t pay the $500 entry fee; hosts debate the legitimacy and necessity of such fees.
- Is the $500 a scam or valuable for the legitimacy it brings?
"If I wanted to win, which he obviously would have won, I would have paid the $500... it's worth more than that in legitimacy and publicity." – Ben (24:00)
The “Art of Betting on Yourself”
- Both describe success in the self-made podcast world, emphasizing self-belief and organic audience-building over seeking advances or upfront guarantees.
"If you’re going into it saying, 'I’m going to make money on my music,' ... you're gonna fail. If you’re going into it saying, 'I’m going to do it weekly with my best friend,' ... I think you bet on yourself.” – Ben (20:19)
Timestamps:
- Joe Rogan / Podcast Awards — 22:34–27:13
4. Music Industry Realities & DIY Success
- Olivia (producer & musician) weighs in: you can now break out on your own by leveraging social media platforms like TikTok.
“You don't have to put $5,000 into it. Definitely.” – Olivia (17:52)
- The best creative path: focus on content, not commercial success, and let the audience find you.
Timestamps:
- Music industry today / TikTok — 16:51–22:19
5. Gender, Power, and Image: TV Industry Double Standards
Jade Catapretta & The “Short Shorts” Incident
- Josh recounts Jade Catapretta’s story of being pressured to wear revealing clothes as a TV host, and the industry’s threat: “You can be replaced.”
- Relates to the powerlessness early-career performers feel, and how with experience, you learn to call this bluff.
“Whenever you feel like, 'this is your big break, after this it’s gonna be everything,' you do that thing and it wasn’t it.” – Ben (37:14) “If you feel really uncomfortable by a demand and you're told you can be replaced...I would just say, okay, replace me.” – Ben (38:28)
Olivia’s Take:
- Double standards anger her; she’d now stand her ground instead of bending to demands.
"It makes me so angry and it's such a double standard. ... I'm not going to compromise who I am." – Olivia (38:29)
Costume vs. Personal Style
- The difference between playing a character (costume) and being yourself as a host or influencer (should have agency in appearance).
Timestamps:
- Short Shorts industry story — 35:29–42:12
6. “Masked Singer” & Knowing Your Boundaries
- Ben discusses Claudia’s (his wife) experience on the Masked Singer — stepping back due to personal limits and getting respectful support.
“She went on, she sang...Got her community excited... then was like, bye. I don’t need more than this.” – Ben (41:01)
- Example of a positive, supportive production environment.
Timestamps:
- Claudia/Masked Singer segment — 40:22–44:15
7. What Are You Nuts? — Grievances & Food Talk
Super Bowl Scheduling Woes
- Ben's recurring complaint: Super Bowl should be on Saturday or followed by a holiday.
“It should be Super Bowl Saturday. That’s it.” – Ben (53:22)
Post-Super Bowl Food Revelry
- Josh details his mother-in-law's epic spread; Ben shares his Cowboy Caviar recipe.
- Creative (and comedic) twists on food and recipes.
Notable Quote:
“The Foo Fighters need to come out with a hero shot—the Food Fighters.” – Ben & Josh (57:00)
Timestamps:
- Super Bowl rants & food — 53:09–58:13
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- Ben on Internet body shaming:
"I'll be like, honey, anyone who knows knows. I lost this 20 years ago." (03:29)
- On crash diets:
"The reason why we gravitate towards crash diets is the same reason why we can't stop eating. It's because we have compulsive behavior." – Josh (06:53)
- Josh on podcast legitimacy:
"I thought it was an unbelievable net positive for the entire podcasting industry. ... so legitimizing that old school media is finally recognizing it." (25:23)
- On creative careers:
"If you’re going into it saying, 'I’m going to make money on my music' ... you're gonna fail. ... Bet on yourself." – Ben (20:19)
- Jade Catapretta story reaction:
"I think it's something that comes from time and experience ... Whenever you feel like, 'this is your big break, after this it’s gonna be everything,' you do that thing and it wasn’t it." – Ben (37:14)
- On personal comfort and performance:
"If talent is comfortable, they’re gonna do better versus if they’re uncomfortable in what they’re wearing." – Ben (52:34)
- Super Bowl scheduling:
"It should be Super Bowl Saturday. ... Or Monday should be a holiday." – Ben (53:22)
Segment Timestamps
| Segment | Start | End | |----------------------------------------------|----------|---------| | Beard talk & GLP-1 weight loss discussion | 00:35 | 10:26 | | Modern medicine, diet failures, obesity | 10:26 | 12:44 | | Joe Rogan & podcast award debate | 22:34 | 27:13 | | DIY music industry & podcasting | 16:51 | 22:19 | | Jade Catapretta/industry power dynamics | 35:29 | 42:12 | | Masked Singer / knowing boundaries | 40:22 | 44:15 | | "What are you nuts?" Super Bowl & food | 53:09 | 58:13 |
Tone and Style
The episode flows with playful banter, candid confession, and spirited debate—brisk, comedic, and self-aware. Both hosts use humor to disarm but dive deep on matters of body image, industry gatekeeping, and creative autonomy. Olivia adds insider perspective and a supportive, actionable voice. The show’s “What Are You Nuts?” gripes segment is a high-energy, lighthearted closer full of food puns and relatable rants.
For Listeners Who Missed It
This episode is a rich mix of social commentary, industry introspection, and classic “good guy” humor. Whether you’re curious about the future of weight loss, wondering how to break into creative industries today, or just here for the food and Super Bowl gripes, there’s something for everyone. A must-listen for aspiring creators and anyone who loves a smart, funny take on modern life.