Gossip Guys with Chace Crawford

Summary

Good Guys Podcast Episode Summary: "Gossip Guys with Chace Crawford"

Release Date: June 12, 2025

In this engaging episode of the Good Guys podcast, hosts Josh Peck and Ben Soffer welcome actor Chace Crawford to discuss his transition from the iconic series Gossip Girl to his current endeavors, the role of golf in networking, maintaining friendships in the entertainment industry, and navigating relationship challenges. The conversation is filled with insightful anecdotes, humor, and valuable advice for both aspiring actors and listeners alike.

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1. Chace Crawford’s Journey Post-Gossip Girl [00:32 - 15:44]

Chace Crawford begins by sharing his appreciation for the podcast, revealing that he read the hosts' book and followed their work through mutual friends like Brian Kai. Josh Peck humorously remarks, “What are ya nuts?! [00:20]” highlighting the light-hearted atmosphere of the show.

Chace delves into his experience after Gossip Girl, describing the challenges of transitioning from a beloved TV character to exploring new roles. He explains how he felt boxed in by the CW’s typecasting but found an opportunity to showcase his range through a new project produced by Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg. Chace recounts his audition process, emphasizing his excitement upon reading the pilot’s unique and original script. “[...] the character was so different from anything I had done before,” Chace shares, illustrating his commitment to diversifying his acting portfolio (Timestamp: [15:44]).

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2. Golf as a Networking Tool [02:38 - 10:58]

The conversation shifts to the hosts' shared love for golf. Ben Soffer highlights golf as an unparalleled platform for building relationships, stating, “You get to know someone that you’re going to do a deal with and let them know that you’re a normal, fun person” ([07:11]). Chace concurs, sharing his own experiences of forming meaningful connections through golf tournaments and charity events.

Josh Peck, though self-deprecating about his own golfing skills, acknowledges golf's value in the business world. “[...] you know, it's so relaxing. It's so fun” ([03:39]). The hosts discuss prestigious golf courses in the Hamptons and the exclusivity associated with them, adding humor about membership costs and limited access.

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3. Maintaining Friendships in the Acting Industry [14:46 - 22:31]

Reflecting on their time on Gossip Girl, Chace describes the deep bonds formed with his co-stars. He shares a heartwarming story about reconnecting with Leighton Meester at a Beyoncé concert, emphasizing how shared experiences, like playing catch or attending events together, strengthen friendships despite geographical distances. “[...] it's like that love we have for these people” ([22:30]).

Ben and Josh relate by discussing their own friendships formed during acting projects, highlighting the unique camaraderie that comes from working closely in high-pressure environments. The absence of a dedicated group chat for the Gossip Girl cast is noted, illustrating how communication methods have evolved over time.

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4. Q&A: Navigating Relationship Challenges [50:35 - 58:35]

The podcast transitions to listener questions via SpeakPipe, focusing on relationship dilemmas. The first question addresses whether knowing a first date cheated in a previous marriage should be an automatic red flag. Ben Soffer responds thoughtfully, “[...] I do think that it’s a red flag to cheat on your spouse” ([52:02]). Chace adds that while honesty is commendable, cheating remains a serious concern and warrants cautious consideration.

The second question involves moving across the country to start a new life while dealing with overbearing in-laws. Ben advises having an honest conversation to set boundaries rather than repeatedly relocating, emphasizing respect and clear communication. Chace suggests that addressing the issue directly with in-laws can prevent future complications ([57:35]).

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5. Fitness and Body Image in Acting Roles [34:02 - 41:41]

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around maintaining physical fitness for acting roles. Josh Peck shares his experiences preparing for roles like in Red Dawn, detailing the rigorous training and diet regimens actors undergo. He recounts Chris Hemsworth’s dedication to building muscle mass for Thor and the challenges of fitting into superhero suits ([35:29]).

Chace Crawford opens up about his own struggles with maintaining a certain physique for television, acknowledging the fine line between healthy discipline and unhealthy obsession. “[...] there's a blurry line, and you can easily cross into a negative relationship with it” ([34:18]). The trio discusses the impact of physical appearance on casting opportunities and personal well-being, advocating for a balanced approach to fitness.

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6. “What Are You Nuts” – Pet Peeves Segment [60:54 - 64:39]

In a light-hearted segment, the hosts share their pet peeves:

• Ben Soffer laments the frustrations of automatic flushers in restrooms, deeming them archaic and unnecessary, “[...] Nobody likes to be splashed like that” ([61:55]).

• Josh Peck criticizes Costco’s massage chair demos, questioning their effectiveness and cost, “[...] And they're not cheap. They’re thousands expensive” ([62:08]).

• Chace Crawford expresses annoyance with people playing noisy games on their phones without headphones, especially in quiet environments like airplanes, “[...] it’s like, do I say something?” ([64:32]).

These candid revelations add a humorous and relatable touch to the episode, showcasing the hosts' down-to-earth personalities.

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7. Chace Crawford’s New Venture: American Dream Clubhouse [66:30 - 67:31]

Before concluding, Chace introduces his new clothing apparel company, American Dream Clubhouse, launched alongside his friend Kelly Teller. The brand focuses on high-quality polos, T-shirts, and hoodies designed for both style and comfort, particularly catering to golf enthusiasts. “[...] I wanted to just create something that was custom to me or I couldn’t find everything in a one-stop shop” ([66:30]). The hosts enthusiastically endorse the new line, with Ben praising the stretch and fit of the polos ([67:16]).

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8. Conclusion [67:31 - End]

The episode wraps up with the hosts thanking Chace for his time and encouraging listeners to rate the podcast highly: “If this episode isn’t 5 stars, what are you nuts? [67:31]” The camaraderie and mutual respect among Josh, Ben, and Chace shine through, leaving listeners with a sense of warmth and anticipation for future episodes.

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Notable Quotes:

• Ben Soffer [07:11]: “You get to know someone that you’re going to do a deal with and let them know that you’re a normal, fun person.”

• Chace Crawford [15:44]: “[...] the character was so different from anything I had done before.”

• Ben Soffer [52:02]: “I do think that it’s a red flag to cheat on your spouse.”

• Chace Crawford [34:18]: “[...] there’s a blurry line, and you can easily cross into a negative relationship with it.”

• Josh Peck [61:55]: “The automatic flusher, Josh, didn’t need to be invented.”

• Chace Crawford [66:30]: “I wanted to just create something that was custom to me or I couldn’t find everything in a one-stop shop.”

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This episode of Good Guys offers a blend of professional insights, personal stories, and relatable humor, making it a must-listen for fans of Chace Crawford, aspiring actors, and anyone interested in the dynamics of friendship and personal growth within the entertainment industry.

Transcript

[Josh Peck]

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[Ben Soffer]

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[Josh Peck]

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[Ben Soffer]

Make it your weekly routine. It's a good guys. And if you don't give us five stars.

[Josh Peck]

What are you nuts?

[Ben Soffer]

What are you nuts? Yeah, we're the good guys.

[Josh Peck]

They're not the great guys.

[Ben Soffer]

We're just the good of the good of the good guys.

[Josh Peck]

Well, Benny and Josh are here with the great Chase Crawford. What an honor. Thank you. Thank you so much for being here.

[Chace Crawford]

Of course. Thanks for having me, man. Yeah, I'm really glad it worked out. So. Yeah. Nice to see you guys. I'm a fan of the pod. Thanks for having me.

[Ben Soffer]

You're the best. You're the best. Are you really a fan of the pod? If you are. I'm just so excited. I said to Josh, I'm like, that is so awesome.

[Olivia]

I know.

[Chace Crawford]

I am like, I, I, I actually, I, I don't know if I text. I read your book, you know, a while ago. You know what I did? I listen. I was listening. I listened to Brian Kai listen compliments podcast. I don't know if he's done it a long time, but I know you guys are good friends. I didn't know until I heard you on his pod.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah.

[Chace Crawford]

And then, and then I was just, I was just interested in your story and I read your book, man. It was really, really amazing. So, yeah, I read the book. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

This guy, unbelievable, you know, handsome, nice, the whole package.

[Josh Peck]

This could be president. I'm telling you. Someone with these gorgeous waspy looks who's a friend of the Jews.

[Ben Soffer]

This is it. He's holding hands.

[Josh Peck]

He's bringing people together.

[Ben Soffer]

No, this is, this is it. We need to get you out to Saudi Arab and what they're doing over there. Be a Jewish representation for the United States, for the people.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Peck]

This podcast isn't political at all, but I love people are so surprised that Donald Trump likes a Saudi welcome.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

A man who, a man who loves casinos. Of course. It's the greatest casino in the world.

[Chace Crawford]

It's right up his alley. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

By the way, not political. Raise your hand if you wouldn't accept a plane. What are you nuts? You're telling me I'm not taking a half a billion dollar plane. I don't care if Hitler built it himself. This is insane. It's so funny.

[Josh Peck]

On the pod the other day, Ben, who's having a beautiful baby, has been trying to figure out a new car to get. And so he jokingly said, ah. And then Mercedes, you know, Nazis can't do that. And this person calls into our show. I didn't. I didn't even save it because it was too nuts. And they go, I heard Ben doesn't want a Mercedes. Totally get it. But I just got a new Volkswagen. And let me tell you what.

[Chace Crawford]

Possibly worse. Yeah, just like a.

[Ben Soffer]

Just like a really quick Google search also would clear that up for them. Like, that's so funny. Even though I did get a BMW, so I did the same thing.

[Chace Crawford]

There you go. It's the same thing.

[Josh Peck]

Best car.

[Chace Crawford]

Congrats, by the way, on the. On bocce. Yeah, yeah. Congrats.

[Ben Soffer]

Thank you. Yeah, we're. We're excited for little man. I was really pumped when. If it was a girl, I would have been pumped, too. But, like, having a guy. Like, I didn't take up golf. We were talking about golf. I didn't take up golf until I was 17. If I started at 3, maybe I'd be scratch.

[Chace Crawford]

Be roaring a Rory, like hitting them in the washing machine, you know, you'd be good. So, I mean. Yeah, I never got to scratch. I never could do it. You know, I was always jealous. Those guys who could, like, take off for a year and then just go out there and shoot like, you know, 72, you know, it was so good. You play golf a little bit, too.

[Josh Peck]

I'm awful.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah. Yeah. Garbage. Oh. I go through phases where I just hate myself. I hate it, and I quit. And, you know, it's like I have to. You know, it's like. Yeah, it's like a bad relationship, but I keep coming back.

[Ben Soffer]

It is, but it's so good. It's so relaxing. It's so fun.

[Olivia]

I don't know.

[Ben Soffer]

Like, I. It's. I. I can't. There's no sport like it where there's true camaraderie all the time. You know, you're hanging. You're having a hang.

[Chace Crawford]

I know. I know. My girlfriend. I'm like, I didn't know you were such good friends with him. I'm like, babe, you spend four hours in a cart, you know, with someone, like, twice, you know, once or twice a week during the pandemic, you become really close. So you know, for sure.

[Josh Peck]

Let me ask you, first of all, have you. Can you hear the voice on this chase? I didn't realize this. These baritone tones. This guy's like, us. He's high T, man. This guy is high testosterone, like us.

[Ben Soffer]

It's very good.

[Josh Peck]

It's Good to know. Olivia, did you notice that?

[Megan]

I did notice that.

[Josh Peck]

Three high tea kings.

[Chace Crawford]

High tea kings.

[Ben Soffer]

That's us.

[Chace Crawford]

That's us. New podcast.

[Josh Peck]

Now Tell me about Golf. Would you make a snap judgment about a person forever if you notice they were cheating at golf?

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, actually, you know, if they're cheating the way that's like kind of in the open and like, okay, that's just how. But if they're like cheating and we're, and we're, we're in a game, you know, another bit of a game, like trying to take it seriously. Yeah, I would, I would, I would take, I would take, you know, I would take that as a judgment. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

Because I complete. I completely agree there are degrees of cheating. I just want to clarify. If I see somebody fluff their ball, there's no issues here. If you go into the woods, I know that you hit woman on Route 60, and you're telling me that you found your ball and then all of a sudden you par. You're a liar. You're a liar and you're a scumbag.

[Chace Crawford]

Okay, if you're dropping the ball down the pant leg, you know, and you didn't, you couldn't find it, I mean, that's, that's a bridge too far.

[Ben Soffer]

Correct? Absolutely.

[Chace Crawford]

But yeah, but if the rules, if the rules aren't. If, you know, you have the rule, like, okay, if it's all, you can move your ball at club length or move it out of the wood chips. Like, if that's like a, you know, a communal thing, you, you establish that. And if they, if they mess that up, then, yeah, I would be, I'd be ticked off.

[Ben Soffer]

Agreed.

[Josh Peck]

Now you're both moguls. Fortune 5 hundo. Impressive men, right? Ben, you entrepreneur in that world. Chase you in old school Hollywood, babe. Not new school Hollywood like me, influencer. But what I'm asking is, you know, it's not you.

[Ben Soffer]

It's not you. You're old school Hollywood. You invented Hollywood.

[Josh Peck]

They always say, like, the business gets done on the links. Like, have you ever played golf with some impressive people and maybe gotten a part on the links? Tell us every.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, no, I haven't been. I really haven't been a part of that. Of that. I mean, I've played with some probably impressive people, but no, I mean, for me personally, my favorite was, was Jim Nance. I got to play like Cyprus with Jim Nance. He's like a member and just because of my brother in law. But to have Jim Nance and we were, we're you know, we're walking down the tea and, you know, hello, friends. And he's, you know, it's kind of like narrating the. Telling the story of Cyprus. And that was like, my most favorite, like, kind of, like, person I ever played. And he's like a national treasure. He's a gem, you know, so. But no, I've never, like, done, like, serious business on. On the golf course. No, no.

[Josh Peck]

Like Mark Wahlberg and you at the Riv.

[Chace Crawford]

Right. You know, I don't know if Mark Wahlberg plays with anybody. I think he, like, you know, works out at 2am and then, like, plays, like, speed golf by himself at like 6am and he, like, like riding the golf court and just hacking it with one hand, like polo. You know, he's done like an hour and a half. Like, I don't know how he does it, but yeah, man, you know, it's.

[Ben Soffer]

It's definitely a great place. It's not a great place. I never understood people closing deals on the golf course, but getting to know someone that you're going to do a deal with and letting them know that you're a normal, fun person, I think is a really, really great way to advance a deal that I haven't, I haven't closed anything, but I've built relationships that I wouldn't have been able to build. You can't, like, ask an investor to. To dinner and it be casual. That's right. It's like, it's, you know, that's what it is.

[Chace Crawford]

Totally true. That's completely true. And I've, like, played golf with, like. And I, you know, the show I'm on on Amazon, I was at this, like, golf tournament, kind of a charity thing, and we were in this group, and, like, you know, I played with this guy for four hours and we all, you know, became friends. And later on I realized when he came up to me at some Amazon probably, oh, he's like the main guy, like Amazon Studios, you know, like, it's like, you know, the PR goes like, he wants to, like, see you. I was like, we played golf for, like, eight hours, you know?

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chace Crawford]

That's why I was like, that's great.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, Be nice to everyone that you play golf with, because you never know. That's a lesson for sure.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

You never know. Even if he's short and annoying and what else? I don't know.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah. And so, Ben, have you been in sort of being about to give birth to your beautiful son? Baruch Hashem, are you going to not how long are you giving yourself to. You play golf again? Forever.

[Ben Soffer]

I'm going to be in the Hamptons this summer. I'm sure, Chase, you know, there's some of the fucking best courses ever out there in the world.

[Chace Crawford]

I mean, in the whole country, for sure. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

Like, I'm not going to lie. If I get a shot at Sagaponic, I'm letting my wife know I need it. I need it. And hopefully she says yes. Knowing my wife, she'll say no. And I'll be totally fine with that. So I probably. Josh, I will play golf again in 2026. I think that's. I think that's safe.

[Chace Crawford]

That's fair. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah.

[Chace Crawford]

Wow.

[Ben Soffer]

It's sad. Horses out there are so nice.

[Chace Crawford]

So nice, man. Yeah, that's great.

[Ben Soffer]

Like, literally, Josh, in this small, I don't know how many miles, I don't even want to guess. There's, like, the top five courses in the world. They're sitting out there between Shinnecock and Ridge and national and Atlantic, and it's insane. And all of them are more expensive than the next. Like, million plus initiations.

[Chace Crawford]

Right, right, right. And then wait list for 10 years.

[Ben Soffer]

You know, and then you have schmucks like me who show up as a guest.

[Chace Crawford]

That's the way to do it, you know?

[Ben Soffer]

I know. I don't. I never got it.

[Chace Crawford]

Like, rich friends, you know, that's the way.

[Ben Soffer]

I guess somebody has to be a member. I don't know why it has to be me. Right.

[Chace Crawford]

I know. And you don't feel pressured to use it. You know, you just kind of pop in, you know, gets the invite, you.

[Josh Peck]

Know, it's so fun. About, like, I forget in the Northeast how many things are. Have native names. And then also knowing, like, the people, like, the kids from Brooklyn that I grew up with, they'd be like, I'm a hardcore American, and I go to Sagaponic and I'm an American, like, Or in la, right? It'll be like, we're gonna go have a wonderful time in Encinitas.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

I know. It's so. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

The whole. The whole Hamptons is like that. Before you get to the Hamptons, you pass Riverhead.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

Like, that's the last place before the Hamptons. And the Hamptons is all native. Montauk is the most native. And we just, like, took it and ruined it for Surf Lodge. But, like, it's. It's gorgeous.

[Chace Crawford]

Still around it is, right?

[Ben Soffer]

It's around. It's around. It's still the. Is it Thing.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah. Is it like.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, if you're looking for that, all the kids.

[Chace Crawford]

Where all the kids go and it's like eating. So. Yeah. Day parties. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

It's the beats.

[Chace Crawford]

I look for that anymore. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

No, It's Josh circa 2015.

[Chace Crawford]

Oh, man, I was probably right there with you. Yeah.

[Olivia]

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[Josh Peck]

Yeah, speaking of, like, working in. Cause when did you make Gossip Girl in New York? From like, 06 to.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, 07 to, like, 13. 2013. I think I left. Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

And you're what, in your mid-20s then?

[Chace Crawford]

Yes, I was 21. I think I was 21 when I shot the pilot and then 22 or something when we started the. Started the series. So, yeah, I have to say 27 or 8 when we ended.

[Ben Soffer]

Quick, just quickly, because you broached the subject. Growing up in the city, I want you to know you had. You don't need me to tell you that you had a chokehold on every kid that went to high school in the city. But me and my wife absolutely devoured that show.

[Chace Crawford]

Love it.

[Ben Soffer]

And watched it again in full, like last year.

[Chace Crawford]

Did you? I love it. Yeah. We've had these waves on Netflix.

[Ben Soffer]

It's just. It's just so good. Like, it was, it was great. Your character Nate was amazing. And I don't know if you get sick of talking about it. Josh is sick of Drake and Josh. I know, but you were, you were amazing.

[Chace Crawford]

And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like vintage now. I feel. I'm like, this is the same age, same age girl as Jen. I'm like, how old are you? You know, we just watched it on Netflix, like the fourth, you know, like wave. I'm like, it's so fascinating, you know, it's like, you know, I was looking at like one of the actors on there, like, what, the guy who, Penn's dad or whatever, and he was like, my age now, you know, I'm like, oh, my God, that's so bizarre. But, yeah, what did it feel like?

[Josh Peck]

Because when we did, when I did my show, I was young. Right. It was from 14 to 19.

[Chace Crawford]

Right.

[Josh Peck]

And we're in LA, which is an industry town.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

And it's a kid show. Right. So it's like we're famous to kids at that time. And in la, it's not odd to see an actor, whomever, walking around. But New York, even though it has a huge entertainment hub, is not just one industry town. Right, right. Finance, it's. It's everything.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

So the Show's crushing. You're 22, 23. New York, is that an exciting time? What's that like?

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, no, it was so, I mean, you know, I'm from like Texas, so it was like a small town in Texas and then kind of Dallas, which was like a big city to us growing up. And then I went to college in la, so that was like my first experience. So I kind of took these steps. But then going to New York and I didn't finish college and I still didn't really feel like a grown up, you know, it was like, kind. I'd like borrow money from my dad to even get an apartment there. And I had to, you know, split it with one of the guys on the show because it Was so expensive, like, borrowing from my dad's own. Those checks started showing up, and I'm like. And on this show, it was like this. Yeah, it was wild. Like, being in such a big. I felt like my. On my own, you know, for the first time and, like, having, like, agency and it was like. It was wild, man. Yeah, we didn't really fathom, like. Like being that sort of overnight, like, sensation on. On some TV show. It was really pretty. Pretty wild. It was. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot. A lot of fun, man. Ye. People kind of open, you know, welcomed us, and we kind of had the keys to the city in a sense, you know, and, yeah, it was really special. But, yeah, there was that thing where In New York's a tourist city, so everyone wants to come visit you in New York, but it's like in la, everyone's kind of like, you know, you know, like, too cool. Too cool. They're like, you know, they, like, you know, like, I almost treat you like shittier, like, you know what I mean? In New York, like, there would be that thing where you feel like you were, you know, since. Since it was a New York show and New York was like a character in the show walking around. You kind of felt like. Like in a Mickey Mouse costume at Disneyland and people, oh, my God, it's Nate. Or, you know, whatever. Like, they're always like, well, hey, you know, and it was like, hi. And. And so there was that, like, that weird thing where it was. You're always walking in the city. And so there was kind of that, like, that thing where people would, you know, recognize you from the show or whatever. But it was. It was such a great experience, man. I can't speak highly more highly of, like, New York and, like, you know, and it was like, you know, I was so young and it was. We had a great job, and so New York was so romanticized in my. In my mind and memory. You know, every time I go back there, it's like, oh, it just feels so nostalgic in a way. Yeah, it was good.

[Ben Soffer]

Mickey Mouse is such an interesting comparison, because I was gonna say the. The best or one of the best parts of that show is that they really captured the perfect New York. But all of it was very, very real. Like, I don't think I've seen that anywhere else. Like, everywhere. Like, even to, like, the, like, where you guys went to school, it all lines up perfectly with secular private school. Like, it's. Whoever wrote it must have lived it because it was perfect. To a T. Nothing was fabricated.

[Chace Crawford]

Right, right.

[Ben Soffer]

I've never seen that. Like, you have, like, LA based shows like the O.C. i'm not saying that, like, that's not like a perfect representation of the OC I actually think think Gossip Girl was the perfect representation of being sort of elitist High school, private school, Manhattanite. Yeah.

[Chace Crawford]

And people would tell us that even from these schools, they were obsessed and they say, oh, you nail. And I. I still couldn't, like, wrap my head around the fact that they were saying it was accurate. You know what I mean? I think.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah.

[Chace Crawford]

And I think they lost the plot a little bit when I'm like, a congressman, you know. Yes. 17 in high school to, like, you know, running for congress and coming out of a private plane. So funny. Like, Chuck owns hotels now. Like, you know what's happening. But no, I mean, obviously it was like a fan is like, like, you know, aspirational or whatever. But. But the city representation, they did such a good. I mean, there's like, you know, Gossip Girl bus tours. Now you can go and see the little. Little sights and. But yeah, they did. They did a great job. And I think, you know, I think they were, like, talking, like, when we were first starting. Oh, it's got. They're gonna shoot in, like, New York or Toronto. And I'm like, well, they. They made the right choice. Right. So I don't think they could have doubled.

[Ben Soffer]

No.

[Chace Crawford]

What New York City is and how. It was basically like, one of the biggest characters in the show. You know, like that. So.

[Ben Soffer]

Oh, my God, what a disaster Gossip Girl would have been if it was in Toronto. Can you imagine, Josh, the backlash if they pretended Toronto was New York?

[Josh Peck]

That'd be amazing.

[Ben Soffer]

This isn't suits.

[Chace Crawford]

It'd be funny. It'd be funny to see you're yelling.

[Josh Peck]

At L. M. Like, what are you so mad about?

[Chace Crawford]

Just up to her knees in snow. Like. Like, you know. Yeah, just. Oh, man. So funny.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah, it's funny because growing up, up in the city, like, all. I went to performing arts high school.

[Chace Crawford]

Right.

[Josh Peck]

And so a lot of my friends at that time were like young actors in the city. And Gossip Girl was like the teenager Law and Order svu. Like, every teen actor I know, they were in their early 20s, like, doing it. Doing two days on Gigi, playing a nerd on Gossip Girl. Got an under five.

[Ben Soffer]

I'm like, let's go. Jeremy, are you still clo. Are you still close with the cast members? Like, do you'd still talk to them or do you guys Have a group chat.

[Josh Peck]

Is there. Is there a gossip girls group?

[Chace Crawford]

There's no more group chat. Yeah, Yeah, I know. It was like. I remember the first iPhone came out in 07, right as we started the show. And so we didn't. We never really had that. You know, we missed, like, that social media kind of thing, that moment. But. But, yeah, no, it's. It's kind of like college where you had this amazing experience, and I loved everybody and, like, when you see them, oh, my God, come here and like. Like, catch up. I literally ran into Leighton at a Beyonce concert the other week. My girlfriend, like, we. We. Whatever. I got took. Taken to a Beyonce concert. And then Leighton walks in and, like, it was so loud. We're like, what? How are you? You know, trying to catch up. And anyway, we ended up grabbing, like, breakfast, like, a couple days later and chatted for, like, three hours. Almost like, catching up. And so it's like that, you know, and she's awesome. She's in la and, you know, I feel like half the. You know, Penn and Blake, they live in New York, and so I'll still text with them occasionally and try and, like, we'll try and, like, get together. I'll run to Ed. You know, he's living in London now, so everyone's like, you know, spread out, has their family, has the kids, and so it's kind of. Kind of like that, you know, where you catch up when you can, you know?

[Josh Peck]

Yeah, it's interesting. Like, I have that with a few people, especially. I did this show in Vancouver for a year over Covid, and you naturally get super close with people you work with on a movie or a TV show, but we were locked into a country in a bubble for nine months, and so I haven't seen most of these people in four years. And yet we'll talk on the group chat, will announce that someone's pregnant or whatever.

[Chace Crawford]

That's so great, though.

[Josh Peck]

I feel such a love for these people.

[Chace Crawford]

Yes.

[Josh Peck]

That I don't think could have been accomplished if it wasn't. Like, it's like a camp relationship.

[Chace Crawford]

It is like, camp, isn't it?

[Josh Peck]

Steroid bonding on steroids. Right.

[Chace Crawford]

But as we get older, we need those group. I mean, you know, you can say what you want. Like, some people hate them, but, like, it's fun to see that group chat get fired up from something like that. A really good experience with these people you had. Right. I mean, and, like, you feel that love. Like, that's. That's. That's nice. Like, I wish we We. I mean, we. We got the boys group chat going. You know, that's. That's still. Still rocking. But there's no. No GG group chat. We missed that boat, you know?

[Ben Soffer]

You know, some comic.

[Josh Peck]

Sorry, I was just gonna say, you know, some Comic Con kids just heard that there's a boys group chat and finish the climax.

[Ben Soffer]

Sorry.

[Josh Peck]

Sorry, man.

[Ben Soffer]

I was just gonna say, I love a group chat, but you also gotta know when the group chat. There are long term group chats and there are short term. Like, I have. I have. I have people that are still, like, replying to a bachelor party group chat. It's like, dude, it's enough. We've been back from the bachelor party for nine months. We met for three days. I'm not. It's over. And then they're like, I have. Like. My one real group chat is called the Brunson Boys. And we just get fired up about the Knicks. Ah.

[Chace Crawford]

I want to say that on Knicks podcast. There we go. I mean, Knicks group chat.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, that's a. That's a Knicks group chat that my wife thinks is incredibly homosexual. The Brunson Boys. But we love it. We love it. And sure, it's a little gay. Who cares? Or the Knicks call it zesty. Carl Anthony Townes is zesty. But have you seen those pictures? They're so good. Have you seen the memes? No.

[Chace Crawford]

What is it? No, I have not.

[Ben Soffer]

Oh, my God. When he, like, finger rolls, he just, like, finishes like this. Like, he's just so.

[Chace Crawford]

That's hilarious. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

So zesty. And he's straight. He dates Jordan woods, but, like. And he leans into it, too. It's. It's so funny.

[Chace Crawford]

Big game tomorrow. Is it tomorrow night or is it tonight?

[Olivia]

Huge.

[Ben Soffer]

And I just. We can cut this out, but I just got a text from my agent that she got me tickets. So, like, I'm like, I love that. Yeah, I love her. Because I was about to fork, like.

[Chace Crawford]

Insane amounts of money.

[Ben Soffer]

Five grand. Like, it's just psychotic.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

But it's next game six.

[Chace Crawford]

Amazing. It's huge.

[Ben Soffer]

The furthest they've been since 99, hopefully.

[Chace Crawford]

That's a huge party over there. Yeah, it's gonna be great. So I hope so. Nice.

[Ben Soffer]

I hope so.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

The Knicks give you free tickets.

[Chace Crawford]

You know, it's funny, I was just in New York and I hadn't been in a long time, and I was, you know, again with my girlfriend. And, yeah, it was game two against, what was it? The Pistons. Yeah, his Pistons. Been so many games, and. And they Used to, they used to be. So, I mean, I mean, like in la, I can't get tickets to save my life. It's like everyone and their dog wants to go to the Lakers, Kings, whatever, Clippers. But in New York, like gospel. I used to be, I used to be hot. You know, I could get like the, the Rangers games. You get good tickets, Nick. So I hit up Stephanie, my manager, you know, just. I was like, hey, you know, don't want to be like a pain in the ass, but like, you know, is there any way to get. Maybe reach out, you know, those VIP people, like the nice, cool suite or whatever, and, and they put in the request and, and then, yeah, they, they, they came through with the tickets. It was, it was incredible. Yeah, it was incredible. There's nothing like the Garden, you know, it's just nothing like that energy.

[Ben Soffer]

So, Josh, this is the good pull. This is the good playoffs. Game two at the Garden. Yeah, Josh and I always. Josh and I always joke, like, if you even sniff an extra on svu, the Garden will throw you tickets. But, but if they, but if, but if you haven't touched regular tv, they. It's go fuck yourself. I only get, I only get given tickets when Josh is in town and they still stick us in the 13th row. The garden needs to do better.

[Chace Crawford]

And if Timothy Chalamet, he, He's just absorbs all the gravity of all the cameras. You don't have to worry about. You're not going to get put jumping up. He's all, it's all Timothy, Timothy, you know, over there.

[Ben Soffer]

Can we talk about Timothy Chalamet who is just, I don't know if you've seen Incredible. He's replaced Spike Lee as the Knicks fan. Like, Spike Lee missed one game, he went to the Met Gala, and that's it.

[Chace Crawford]

He's out.

[Ben Soffer]

Spike is out. Timothy was on the road.

[Chace Crawford]

He's traveling.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, he's traveling. He's sitting front row at every game. He's crushing it.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

Wow.

[Chace Crawford]

He's living the life.

[Ben Soffer]

I mean, I get living the life.

[Josh Peck]

I get, you know, I get field side tickets for the LA Galaxy. I know, I'm just kidding. And it's a nice time, you know, MLS soccer guys fucking get on board.

[Olivia]

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[Josh Peck]

You guys this too. Cause like, obviously it's a great, wonderful, like who am I to talk crap about a beautiful freebie, a blessing like this. It's a lot of. I feel whenever I've been gifted these kind of tickets, a lot of pressure showing up because a, like there's a chance someone's looking at you. There could be a camera on you. I want to be horsing down fucking nachos. I don't want to get a ball to the face. I got to sit courtside for an Orlando Magic game in January. It was one of the greatest experiences in my life just because it allowed me to enjoy basketball at the highest level. That close was beyond, right? But I was like, you're gonna get a ball to the face.

[Chace Crawford]

And if I pay attention, it was.

[Josh Peck]

The most terrifying three hours of my life. Like, I wanted a text, I wanted to huff down some pretzels. I couldn't.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

It'll also ruin basketball for you though. Can you. How can you sit anywhere else? Like Once you're that close, you see the action, you hear the players, you hear the coaches. It's just, it's so much more than a game when you're that close. It really, it is so unparalleled. It ruins, it ruins it like to the point that like I would rather watch on TV if you're not really, really, really close because you get, you have more of the action, you have the commentators, you can actually see the fouls. Like it's just, it ruins.

[Chace Crawford]

You're on the same level as you guys. Like oh wow, they're like two of me. Yeah, they're very, very big, big humans. You know, hu, it's, the energy is different. I know you can even get like 15 rows mid court and the great seats. Like I need binoculars. It's like, you know, it's so, yeah it's so, it's, it ruins you for sure.

[Josh Peck]

Did you ever play in any of these celebrity basketball games?

[Chace Crawford]

No, no, no. Basketball. I'm terrible at basketball. Yeah, I've like, I played in a few like you know, celebrity chair, like charity type event. I mean golf, golf charity type events. Things which are, which are fun but still nerve wracking. I mean even like the basketball thing I'm sure is nerve wracking. Have you played in any of that stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like probably nerve wracking, right?

[Josh Peck]

I mean I was like thank God I was under the influence. I wasn't sober yet.

[Chace Crawford]

It was great.

[Josh Peck]

And so like I, I wasn't really in my body for, for four and a half years. Yeah, I'm just like hey, like think quick. Brody Jenner like.

[Ben Soffer]

So stupid.

[Josh Peck]

And like Baron Davis is screaming at me.

[Chace Crawford]

I'm like Baron really?

[Josh Peck]

You know, I'm like, I'm being defended by a guy. Ninth season of Survivor.

[Ben Soffer]

Everyone get.

[Chace Crawford]

It's amazing. Yeah, no, I've never, I, I try and stay away from those things now. You know, approaching 40, you know, I just want to, still want to pull a hammy, you know. So terrible.

[Josh Peck]

But I also, I also have a disdain for when actors get too butch, you know, or like too into something. Like have you ever had something where you've had to prepare for a role or like I remember, remember when Top Gun came out and shout out they obviously all crushed it. But like when Miles Teller and Glenn Powell they were all like oiled up and everyone's like doing push ups before the scene. Like I just don't think I would fit in. I think I'd just be like guys, what's going on here?

[Ben Soffer]

I think. I think you'd fit in just fine. I don't know. Chase, if you can see. I don't know if you can see his arms from here, but Josh is swole.

[Josh Peck]

No, God bless you. But, like, you know, I don't know. I don't think I can take myself that seriously.

[Chace Crawford]

Right, right. You know, I know it's like. It's. It's.

[Josh Peck]

How are you with that kind of stuff?

[Chace Crawford]

Like the workout stuff or just kind of like.

[Josh Peck]

I mean, you do, you know, like, you, like with the boys and stuff, you are playing those kind of guys that are elevated in that way, but.

[Chace Crawford]

Right.

[Josh Peck]

Are you comfortable in that setting or you're like, oh, I really have to kind of get myself there?

[Chace Crawford]

I. You know. Exactly. I feel like you have to, like, you really get yourself there. And I think, you know. Yeah, my experience with it, I wanted to kind of do that for. For the boys starting out and. And, yeah, I kind of backed myself into a corner there. Right. Because I kind of got in this. In this shape and like, oh, shit. I keep. Keep this up every season. Like, that it comes around. And so, yeah, I feel like there's a fine line between, like, obsession with it. You know what I mean? Like, a healthy, like, there's like, the line to be unhealthy is. With that is. Is kind of blurry, and you can kind of cross over into. Into that, like, you know, negative relationship with it pretty easily, you know? So I. I don't. I don't really like, you know, all that stuff so much. You know, it's just. You can get too obsessive over it because it's. It's. It's a bit unrealistic, you know, because you're doing it for, like, for the show or the moment or the scene. And so it's like, it's really tough to get there and. And. And actually maintain that as, like, a lifestyle. You know what I'm saying? And I think it's healthier to not try and maintain that for. You know what I mean? I think it's healthier just to, like, let that go.

[Josh Peck]

So, yeah, I remember I. I did this movie, Red dawn, where, yeah. Chris Hemsworth, that I played brothers, because that's believable.

[Chace Crawford]

It's amazing, though. No, the movie is great. Great.

[Josh Peck]

And he got Thor before, while he was shooting Red Dawn.

[Chace Crawford]

Wow.

[Josh Peck]

So he had to be in great shape for Red dawn, but Thor was the next level, and he had, like, three or four months to prepare. And I remember he Would like. I remember once I, like, caught him welling up because he couldn't eat enough because he had to get.

[Ben Soffer]

He felt the dream, but it's like.

[Chace Crawford]

The dream.

[Josh Peck]

Chicken and rice and veggie. You know, it's not fun. Cause he just felt like, I need to. I'm playing Thor. Like, I need to be superhuman. You know, he's already 6 4, but, like, he wanted to put on 20, 30 pounds of muscle.

[Chace Crawford]

Right.

[Josh Peck]

And then I remember we had filmed for three months, and he'd been working out savagely. He looked incredible. And in December, he had to go and try on the Thor suit before he started filming in February. And he comes back and he goes, I outgrew the suit.

[Chace Crawford]

Suit.

[Josh Peck]

Suit doesn't fit anymore. And they told me to stop gaining weight and lose some.

[Chace Crawford]

Wow.

[Josh Peck]

Because they were like, you don't.

[Ben Soffer]

Wow.

[Josh Peck]

They were like. The camera doesn't pick up size. It picks up cut and shape.

[Chace Crawford]

Right.

[Josh Peck]

And they're like, you're too big because you jacked, like. Yeah, he was just a massive. They were like, lean it all. It's interesting.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, it's tough. Yeah. No, I know you. I don't know how you deal with it for, like a Marvel shoot for, like, you know, six months or whatever it is. But. But yeah, the cut thing does show up a little bit more, you know, on camera, like, the size. And you can be, like, short, tall, whatever, and big. But, like, the cut thing is kind of what. What. What shows. Yeah. And that's tough. You know, there's like, you know, you really got to kind of focus. You got to focus on, like, the. Unlike numbers. And I don't want to be weighing. I'm too old to be weighing food or getting on a scale. Like, I'm not, like, think. I don't like to think about anything like that, you know, so.

[Josh Peck]

Right.

[Chace Crawford]

And I think you can, you know, kind of develop some unhealthy habits, like that way, you know, Definitely did for a minute. I kind of like, you know, slipped into some. Some, you know, kind of obsessed. You get obsessed with food a little bit. It's just not. Not healthy. Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

One of us talk about a food obsessed. Probably coming from a different angle, but even. Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

Tell me, Ben, you're playing a superhero in, you know, the Israelite Returns, right?

[Ben Soffer]

Yes.

[Josh Peck]

So what. What's your regimen look like? How much turmeric and how much mounjaro are you injecting today?

[Ben Soffer]

So much. So much mounjaro. It's so much. At least 0.35. Because right now it's humming, Chase. It's humming. The turmeric is great as well. I wonder, like, just, just hearing you talk about Chris eating to gain weight, that, like, thought is so foreign to me. Like, the idea of, or, sorry, eating to be bigger and stronger. Like, if I want to be bigger and stronger, I need to eat so much less. Like, that's my body. Like, if I need to eat protein, of course, but, like, I can't just, like, be eating calories. I'll just get fat. Right? Like, I need to. If I want to cut down or, like, get cut, which is, like, so foreign to me, I would need to eat less. It's just a crazy thing. So what would I do? I would eat a lot of chicken. Ton of chicken. I'd probably have you inject me with some beautiful GLPs and testosterone and whatever else.

[Chace Crawford]

The kids are, all the kids are doing something crazy.

[Ben Soffer]

What are the kids taking?

[Chace Crawford]

Peptides.

[Josh Peck]

Shout out. Craig, what are the hot.

[Ben Soffer]

What are the kids in Hollywood taking right now for, for these roles? What are they taking to look like this?

[Chace Crawford]

I wish I knew, to be honest. I mean, I know they're taking, I know they're taking something. I wish I knew. No, I, I, I really don't. I mean, I, I've heard Peptides, but, like, I, you know, I looked it up just to say, what, what the hell is all this about? And there's like 50 different alphanumeric, you know, types. I'm like, wow. And like, are you ordering these off the Internet? And then like, injecting, like, what's going on on Chase?

[Josh Peck]

You know me now. I make the connection. Shout out Dr. Conover, thank you to Conover Wellness, Charleston, South Carolina.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah. Really? I mean, yeah, like, like, yeah, like, okay, but do they, like, like, you know, do they work? Like, does it give you energy?

[Ben Soffer]

Like, not in the eyes of the.

[Josh Peck]

FDA.

[Chace Crawford]

Kids are doing, Right? I mean, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Peck]

I mean, I, I'll say it if you can. I've definitely known a lot of actors growing up, less now, in my late 30s, who were like, certainly taking roids or human or something.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Peck]

And they were. And for the, for the kind of roles and things that I'm going out for, the. It wasn't worth the trade. I remember we had a famous Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, this guy, Dr. Jason Diamond.

[Chace Crawford]

Okay, right.

[Josh Peck]

And he was saying how there are some really famous actresses that have come to him asking for the buccal fat removal from their cheeks. Interesting to give them kind of that more like angular, motley look. And he goes, I know. And I tell them this won't look good in your 50s because of whatever you've got going on anatomically in your face. You're gonna want that fat back as you get older.

[Chace Crawford]

Right.

[Josh Peck]

But he's like, it's a trade. They feel at late 20s, early 30s are having such a moment that they'd rather look insane for this 10 year.

[Chace Crawford]

Runway way and then deal with it later. Yeah, right, right, right.

[Ben Soffer]

I mean, it's that, it's that movie. What movie was that came out? The substance.

[Chace Crawford]

The substance.

[Ben Soffer]

Literally the substance.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, right.

[Ben Soffer]

That's literally it. A trade off. You get one day of looking hot and it eats away at your body.

[Chace Crawford]

Paid the piper later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

[Ben Soffer]

What a scary movie.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah. I've never messed with any of that, any of that stuff, you know, to stop whatever. It just feels like, you know, there's a trade off down there with what, what, what? You know, it, you know, restricts production of the natural hormones. It's like, I don't want to screw with that, you know, unless I have to, you know, unless I'm in actually like 50s. I need it, you know, but yeah, I don't really know what the people. I assume it's like something like, you know, like the testosterone cocktail of sorts. Yeah, yeah. So. Wow. You know.

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[Josh Peck]

I'm interested to know because you've done this thing that I think is very rare, to go from one huge, beloved show to another one. And usually as actors, you don't get, like, another sophomore hit in the TV space.

[Chace Crawford]

Totally.

[Josh Peck]

How much did you really have to angle for that? Was that something that you were. It was more just lucky. What was the thought process in. In jumping into the second show?

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, I think, I think people think. Well, first of all, they think that actors, you know, make a ton more money and have way more agency than we actually do, depending on sort of where you are. But I was in. I felt like I was in the wilderness for, like, years after Gossip Girl because I felt, you know, as big of a show, it was coming off as a young, still young guy. It's like, oh, that's not cool, you know, anymore. And, and I'm in this box now. I'm in this, like, jail of, like, the CW pretty boy who. You know what I mean? Who can't. There's no range. So I felt that. And, and I was probably harder on myself than I needed to be. But I, it wasn't like, I, I just remember that. That audition hitting my inbox and reading the synopsis. I was like, that sounds wild. And then, like, reading this pilot, I was like, oh, this is great. You know, this is so out there and original and weird and in the specific role of. Of the deep, you know, like, being like. I'm like, I know that guy. You know, I know a hundred of those guys, basically, so instantly felt confident, excited, like, about my take on the character. Like, I'm just gonna go in there and do what I think is. Is funny for this guy now. I hope they appreciate the comedy. I didn't know if. What. I didn't know what the tone was gonna be, but I. I had to go in. I went and read for it, you know? Yeah, I went and read for it. I had no. It was like the. I got. I got there. I was like, last. Up. Up. And there was, like, literally, like, 50 names on the sheet. I was. I was, like, a little, like, a little annoyed because I was like. I. It was. I was like, last in the room, and I just. I just feel like I don't like. Like that. I feel like, oh, they've seen all these people all day. They want to go home. Yeah, Yeah. I like to kind of me go first. So I was sitting there, and, no, I had to wait, like, you know, 20 minutes, which is fine, but, like, you just. It was just like. I just felt, you know, bad. That was like, the last. I'm like, oh, God, they're not going to remember any of this. But it was Eric Kripke, the creator. Like, he was in every session and every day for. For. For all the reads, just right there with the casting director, and they had a reader there. And I just felt so. I felt so confident with the scenes. I went in there, and one was pretty dark, Kind of a dark, like, scene where you're screaming at the girl and then. And another one was, like a monologue on the couch with, like, talking to your. His. The deep therapist or something about, like, the local lobsters are hers only friends, you know, And. And I got. I got some laughs at a Kripke. And I was like, okay, you know, And. And, you know, that was it. I mean, it was just a normal audition. Read that. Something I really wanted, you know, just based on, like, reading it, so really wasn't my choice at all, you know, and it was. It was Seth, you know, Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg were producing it. It was, like, a really cool thing. And. And then they instantly were like, oh, yeah, we want to test you, like, off that one audition. I was like, well, do I. Can I. Can I go back in again? Like, can I go back in and do it better. You know, like, I was kind of, like, nervous that they were going to use that, but it all. It all worked out, and it was really fast, and it was great. It was. It was a great. You know, I was so happy to have another job, and I was excited about that, was that the character was so different from anything I had done before, you know, and being. I saw it as dark comedy, I. It was very dark the first season, what he does in, like, the first episode. But it was just a way to show range. And I thought that I was gonna, like, I'm gonna use this opportunity to. To really try and do whatever I can with it. And. Yeah, and. And then. Even then, it was a series pickup, like a full. So we shot the whole eight episodes without ever airing, and they were gonna order another one before even the first season aired. But we. We were like, is this gonna. Is this gonna land with anybody? I mean, it was such a crazy tonal shift of like, you know, the idiot narcissistic dolphin boy and then, like, the evil Superman character, like, you know, not saving a plan, like, letting a whole plane of people. I go down as, like, is anyone going to connect? And they did. So it was. When it came out, it was like, kind of, you know, a hit and then kind of grew. It kind of was a slow build in the audience. Like, 20, 20 second season aired, and it became even bigger. And that was a lot of fun. That was the first time I really, really enjoyed, like, the fan feedback from, you know, from people in the street. In the streets. But. Yeah, yeah, but. But no, like. Like, and. And. But it was not lost on me how difficult after kind of those four years of like. Like kind of some false starts on some TV shows of like, oh, this is. Could be difficult, you know, to find another thing. And I was really, really appreciative when that. When this happened because I. I was kind of like, oh, man. Like, it's just. And that. And that one sort of audition, you know, when. When you get down that. That one. That one audition could really change. And you. You kind of know what? Like, I'm on this. I'm on this new kind of crazy journey now with this other show and these new people.

[Ben Soffer]

People.

[Chace Crawford]

That's. That's really cool. So I was very appreciative of that. Yeah. After being on something like Gossip Girl, where. Not that I took it for granted, it was just so fresh and I was so young that you kind of inevitably, by the end of it, have taken some things for granted, you know.

[Josh Peck]

Sure.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, so.

[Josh Peck]

Well, you know, Ben is a big fan of Glee.

[Chace Crawford]

I loved it. Yeah. Love it.

[Ben Soffer]

Recently watched that start to finish again, too. Fantastic.

[Chace Crawford]

Did you? Yeah. No, that was right when even gospel was big. Like, we. My parents loved it. We all watched that back then. I knew a lot of those a. Those guys on there. Yeah, it's great.

[Josh Peck]

Ben's TV taste is always.

[Ben Soffer]

I was gonna say I needed to know where that was going. Then I caught a stray on Glee. I'm currently on episode 12 of the Sopranos. First watch through.

[Chace Crawford]

There you go. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

Josh, I've been meaning to tell you. I am Tony's mother.

[Josh Peck]

Hell, yeah, you are.

[Ben Soffer]

I'm Tony's mother. Like, I pretend that I'm senile. I really like. Rad on people. I really like. It's like she's a little bit of a control thing, but she's. She just guilts people. Guilts them to no end. She's so Jewish, Tony's mom. And honestly, the Jewish undertones, while they also are so anti Semitic, it's gold.

[Josh Peck]

It's spot on.

[Ben Soffer]

Like, it was so clearly written by Jews and they just, like, threw it in those.

[Josh Peck]

It wasn't.

[Ben Soffer]

They have Tony using the word schnurr. I'm like, why are you using the word schnurra, Tony?

[Josh Peck]

Because he's a fucking schnurrer.

[Olivia]

It's so good.

[Ben Soffer]

It's so good. I have range with tv, for sure. Range. I love all great, deep characters. And I'm telling you, Josh, Glee, there are some deep characters. That Rachel Berry, she's fantastic.

[Josh Peck]

Okay. Hey, should we get this?

[Chace Crawford]

Should we get.

[Josh Peck]

So we do this thing called Speak Pipe where people call into the show and leave messages. They want advice. They want to hear some input. Do you want to jump in on some?

[Chace Crawford]

For sure, yes.

[Josh Peck]

All right. If you want to give us questions, Advice, go to speakpipe.com goodguys. Keep it brief. Brevity is key. I can't stress that enough. Brief, brief, brief. Let's hear first from. Ooh, this is good. First from Anonymous.

[Megan]

Hey, good guys. I'm gonna send this to the toast too, and hopefully you both read it and respond because. Or I guess you're listening to it. Because I want a male and female perspective. And yes, I'm gonna make it about gender. So I went on a date last night, first date with a guy.

[Chace Crawford]

Was.

[Megan]

Very open about the fact that he is divorced. And when I was, like, prying into deeper about his divorce, he said that he cheated on his ex wife. And that obviously led to Their divorce. And I'm just curious, like, is knowing that an automatic red flag? Can people change? He did this a couple years ago. I'm not like head over heels for him. Obviously it's a first date, but like, should that be an automatic red. Like, no. Or should he like hear them out? Obviously people make mistakes in the past and you know, it's just, it's posing an interesting question and would love your thoughts.

[Olivia]

Bye.

[Chace Crawford]

Bye.

[Ben Soffer]

I think the fact that he told you says something about him. He didn't have to tell you that he cheated on his ex wife. Like a real scumbag wouldn't tell you at all.

[Chace Crawford]

True.

[Ben Soffer]

That said, I do think that it's a red flag to cheat on your spouse. I also, I don't. We don't know the whole story. That's the problem with these speak pipes. They never give us enough information. Like, was, how was their marriage? Was she not? Like, was there a reason? I'm not trying to victim blame, but there are sometimes reasons. You know, you never know. Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

Was she a stingy lover?

[Ben Soffer]

Sorry, Maybe.

[Chace Crawford]

What?

[Ben Soffer]

Maybe she. It's possible. I don't know. It's probably a red flag, but you could do some more research to see if it's not right.

[Chace Crawford]

I feel like the dating. I feel like it's tough out there. I don't know. You know, I feel like it's a tough, tough dating scene out there for, well, both genders. But yeah, I mean, if like, you know, like you said. I think that's a good point. If, if he's, if he's coming out and being very direct with like, hey, I, I'm single, I'm divorced, but I, it was my fault. I cheated. Like, you know, maybe give it a second date, but that's a rabbit. Think it's a red flag? Yeah, for sure. You know, it's not a green flag. Oh, yeah. Green, green light. Let's go. You know? Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

It also, it also makes you think the fact that he was so open, like, hey, I'm Jeff, I cheated. It's like, what, what else? Have you been to prison?

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah. Are you love bombing her now?

[Ben Soffer]

Like there was like there was a little bit too much like too forward, like oversharing.

[Chace Crawford]

Right.

[Ben Soffer]

Save something for the third date.

[Chace Crawford]

Right?

[Ben Soffer]

Like, sure.

[Josh Peck]

What about. What do you think, Olivia?

[Megan]

I agree with the sentiment that I think it says something about his character that he was on honest and said that up front. But also just like proceed forward with caution. I think that if you have good chemistry, like maybe see what happens. But keep that piece of information tucked, you know, aside. But ultimately, I think it, like, I don't know. People can change, but, you know, I think it depends on your connection, and if you think it's worth dealing with the murky waters of it.

[Chace Crawford]

All.

[Josh Peck]

Right, Josh, I think it depends how you cheated. I think if it was like, oh, I had, you know, an ex who I still had feelings for, and we ran into each other, blah, blah, blah, that's one thing. And if it's like, I saw someone attractive near the carousel at Central park and we rendezvoused in the rambles. Well, fun.

[Ben Soffer]

That's different.

[Josh Peck]

That might be your sex addict in the Rambles. No, I don't know. It's. Cheating's a tough. It's a tough thing. I don't know. I mean, I think. Ben, you and I have talked about it, and I don't know how you feel, Chase, but, like, I have people that I love and respect. Like, I know I respect them and love them as people as much as I could tell about anyone. And they've cheated. Like. Like they've had relationships end, unfortunately, because there was some sort of infidelity. And I go, like, right. And I don't know. I think if I made that like a. That's not cool with me. We can't be friends anymore. I'd lose a lot of friends. I think a lot of people cheat. It's not okay, but. I don't know. What do you think, Ben?

[Ben Soffer]

I just think that there's a clear distinction between a cheater who's an asshole and a cheater whose relationship was in trouble and they weren't good enough at vocalizing that they had a weak moment.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, like.

[Ben Soffer]

Like they. Like they should have. You should never cheat on someone. But if your relationship's terrible and your partner's terrible, the best thing to do is break up with them and then have sex with somebody. But there. Things happen, right? But if you.

[Chace Crawford]

You're.

[Ben Soffer]

If your spouse was unbelievable to you and you took advantage of that and cheated on her, then you're an asshole. Like, that's. You know what I mean? Like, cheaters aren't just cheaters.

[Olivia]

There's.

[Ben Soffer]

There are different. I think. I think that there are different types of reasons why one would cheat. I don't think any of them are necessarily acceptable if you're, like, firing up your.

[Chace Crawford]

Your dating app or. Or the DMs actively, like, serious serially hiding it, and then maybe, you know, it's a. It's a relationship relationship that's At a low point, you're in a weak moment. Have a weak moment. And then you can't sleep at night because you feel so guilty and tell her. I mean, you know, that's a. Those are two different types of people, you know, 100%. So, yeah. I mean, is it. Is it shitty? You know? Yes. And no matter how you slice it, but, yeah, it's. It's no fun.

[Ben Soffer]

But to your point about having friends that cheat, Josh, I actually don't think that I could be friends with somebody who was the cheating type that was just a scumbag. Like his.

[Chace Crawford]

Like his wife kind of a thing.

[Josh Peck]

Totally.

[Ben Soffer]

Exactly. Like, he's like a. He's like a. She's like a great mom and takes care of the kids while he's. What. What's the name of Tony's hooker? What do they call them?

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

Has a gumar. Like, I don't need that. Like, you don't need gumars. While you have your beautiful family.

[Chace Crawford]

This.

[Josh Peck]

This bank. It's a square.

[Ben Soffer]

God, that Kumar was such a.

[Chace Crawford]

Impression.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

No. What if there was a thing like the Purge, but for cheating? Like, one day. I don't know, a month. No, one day a year. You could just get after it.

[Chace Crawford]

So.

[Josh Peck]

Fun dream. No, getting. Here's another one from Megan.

[Chace Crawford]

Okay.

[Megan]

I'm not even gonna waste time on a hello because I'm not trying to get crucified on the podcast, but me and my husband are moving across country to kind of get away from everybody, start our own journey, and now our in laws trying to follow. They are very nice people, but, my God, are they annoying.

[Ben Soffer]

What do we do?

[Megan]

Do we, you know, move there and if they follow us, just move to another state? Or do we tell them, you know, you're a little annoying, Please leave us alone. Any help would be appreciated.

[Chace Crawford]

Thank you.

[Ben Soffer]

Yikes.

[Chace Crawford]

So you would move somewhere and then potentially move again. Get that? Right? Yeah. That sounds like a lot of work to maybe clear it up beforehand. You know, it sounds like a lot.

[Ben Soffer]

Of work that a conversation could just, like, have a conversation, say, like, hi, you're a little bit overbearing. I'm really sorry. I think that's better than moving twice, right?

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

I also believe in respecting your elders. And, like, that sounds pretty shitty. I don't know. Like, you're lucky to have in laws. I don't know how old this person is, and I also don't know the circumstance. Again, we don't have enough information, Josh.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah. And do they have, like. Do they have kids? Because A lot of you can forgive a lot of annoyance if you have in laws who are down to being your kid's life and help.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Peck]

You know, right?

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah.

[Chace Crawford]

I don't know.

[Josh Peck]

Speaking of in laws, your brother in law is a football player.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah. Tony Romo. Yeah. Yeah, he's. He's great. Yeah. Yeah. We grew up huge Cowboys fans so. From Texas and he's the best. Yeah. Going to some of those games were when he was still playing was just like the best. It was. Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

And he. So I have in laws who are football players too.

[Chace Crawford]

Okay.

[Josh Peck]

Father in law was a quarterback for the jets.

[Chace Crawford]

Amazing.

[Josh Peck]

For 10 years.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

My brother in law played QB1 for Fresno, so.

[Chace Crawford]

Wow.

[Josh Peck]

So what's that? Because for me I'm not. I'm not a great football player. So playing catch with these guys sucks.

[Chace Crawford]

It sucks. Yeah. You break a finger really easy. Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

Is Tony darting them at you? What's it. Is he throwing lasers? What's going on?

[Chace Crawford]

Even when he tries to take some off of it, it's just like boom. You know, it's like almost a broken nose. But yeah, I mean. And I never. I tried football when I was. I was not great. But. But yeah, he doesn't. He's more of like a golfer now. Like he's really into, you know, the golf thing and so, you know, he's nice that and he's really. He's one of those annoying guys who's like just scratch and just can kind of get out there so.

[Ben Soffer]

Good. I was gonna say he's amazing.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah. Amazing has a thing and he tries like show me how to do it and move my body. I'm like, I can't. I can't do that. But yeah, he gets out there and he, he. Yeah, he zings that ball and he's. He's. He. Now I've got three nephews. He's. His kids got three boys and he.

[Josh Peck]

Seems like a great dad.

[Chace Crawford]

He's a great dad. Yeah. He's like talk to. I mean the middle one looks just like him like throwing back. They're throwing the ball and like wiggling around and so it's. It's fun. It's fun for us. Yeah. You know, and he's very good coach and very good like teacher and he's very patient and, and enthusiastic. But yeah, we. Him and I used to play some catch and he would. Yeah, I mean he would Staying a little bit and not. There's nothing. Like I can't really watch football anymore. Like I like seeing him and having like an emotional connection to someone on the field. And being with your family was such, like, a drug. It was such a high, like. And, you know, you're nervous and watching him play and the whole thing, like, it will just never be that exciting watching any. Any football event, you know, ever, so. But, yeah, he's. He's. He's such good guy. We love him. And, yeah, he's great. Wow. Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

I love it.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

I can't imagine you playing catch, Josh. I don't know why I can't. I just can't. You play catch.

[Josh Peck]

It's like you watching Glee.

[Ben Soffer]

It happens. You play catch? Yes. Okay.

[Josh Peck]

I can throw up a ball. I'm not great. I'm not great at catching things.

[Chace Crawford]

We need.

[Ben Soffer]

We need to. We need to play catch. I'm ready to play catch.

[Josh Peck]

Grades. For our next merch shoot. It'll just be you and I.

[Ben Soffer]

I'm good.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

We'll play catch and we'll smoke cigarettes. That'll be the next ball. Smoking ball. Smoking. That was our first merch shoot. It was us playing basketball, smoking cigarettes.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

While smoking cigarettes.

[Chace Crawford]

That's amazing.

[Ben Soffer]

It was.

[Chace Crawford]

It was great.

[Josh Peck]

Should we get to our what do you nuts?

[Ben Soffer]

Yes.

[Josh Peck]

So our what do you nuts? Moment of the week? We'll go first so you have a time to think about it.

[Chace Crawford]

Okay.

[Josh Peck]

It's our gripes with people, places and things. It's our last segment. Basically, anything big or small sticking in your craw, it doesn't matter. Just whatever you think and go, what are you, nuts?

[Chace Crawford]

Like a pet peeve type thing.

[Josh Peck]

Anything is great, right? So we'll go first and then. And you have time to think about it.

[Chace Crawford]

Okay.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

So this morning I mentioned that I played golf. This morning I go, I had my ice coffee. I had my AG1. I don't need to spell it out. I get to the course, I'm ready to. I'm ready to rip it. I sit down before I can do anything. Automatic flusher. Water up the. What are you nuts? What are you nuts? The automatic flusher. The automatic flusher, Josh, didn't need to be invented. It didn't need to. We could easily press the button so that it doesn't go off at inopportune moments. Nobody likes to be splashed like that. These are completely archaic, and I think automatic flushes are woody nuts.

[Josh Peck]

Okay.

[Chace Crawford]

It's a good one.

[Josh Peck]

Actually, my woody nuts is. The other day, I was walking through my home base college Costco. I just love it. And they have one of those.

[Ben Soffer]

I live on Kirkland Drive.

[Josh Peck]

I wish. And they have a section set up for massage chairs. Like, they're doing demos now. I love a massage chair as much as the next guy, but, like, it's a lot of hooey. It doesn't really do anything.

[Chace Crawford]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[Josh Peck]

It's not comparable to a real massage, but it's great.

[Olivia]

You can get it.

[Ben Soffer]

Totally.

[Josh Peck]

And. And they're not cheap. They're thousands expensive.

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Peck]

And I see this big billboard for, like, these are our massage chairs. And with a ringing endorsement from the World Chiropractic Organization. What are you nuts? Like, what's the next endorsement from the World Fortune Teller Organization?

[Ben Soffer]

Who cares, Josh? We're going to get the chiropractic community after us again. This happened once.

[Josh Peck]

This happened.

[Ben Soffer]

Happened once. I just, like, we almost lost the podcast.

[Josh Peck]

Who knew they needed an organization? Like, first of all, I'm down with chiropractors. I think they're wonderful if they're really good at what they do and they. And they can help people. But don't call yourself doctor, first of all, because it's right, Right. It's just because it's like, then there'll be, like, people who are giving you medical advice on TikTok, and it'll say, Dr. So and so and be like, oh, this person clearly went to, like, you know, did the residency at the Cleveland Clinic. And they're like, actually, I went to the Van Nuys Chiropractic College. I'm just like, not a dog.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, that's another woody and nuts. Just quickly, because I thought about it. Actually, I'll save it for the next episode. Actually, I'll mention now and then we'll cut it out. When you're a doctor of something else and you refer to yourself as doctor. Like, when you're like a doctor of the arts or something, and you have people call you doctors. Like, come on, people slaved in medical school.

[Olivia]

School.

[Ben Soffer]

Not like, looked at Picasso or something, you know?

[Josh Peck]

Okay, so when is doctor, but a psychologist? We can call doctor.

[Ben Soffer]

Yes, absolutely.

[Josh Peck]

PhD.

[Ben Soffer]

Absolutely, absolutely. So anybody that if you see patients, you're a doctor.

[Josh Peck]

Chiropractor.

[Chace Crawford]

That's it. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

No chiropractors, though. Like, you can't be a doctor. And also, like, isn't it kind of pseudo, we're going to strip mall in Florida. Like, it just doesn't work. You have to be able to.

[Josh Peck]

Fair. Fair enough. What about a naturopath or like a Eastern medicine acupuncturist?

[Ben Soffer]

You know, I love them. They're not doctors, okay? Wow. Gotcha. They're homeopathic consultants, Josh.

[Chace Crawford]

Right.

[Ben Soffer]

They spread the gospel of the Lord. That's what they do. Okay. That's what they do there.

[Josh Peck]

You have a woody nut chase.

[Chace Crawford]

You know, I was thinking, you know, I've been flying kind of back and forth from Toronto a little bit, and I realized one of my biggest pet peeves is someone watching or playing a game on their phone with no headphones and the volume up. I think that probably so good.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah.

[Chace Crawford]

It's such a good one because it's like, it's a nice, quiet airplane. You know, hopefully you're reading a book or doing something, you know, and. And then you just hear, like, you know, coins jingling and all, you know, it's. They're playing like, Candy Crush or something, and you're like. Like, do I say something? You know, am I going to stick up for myself? And, you know. Yeah, you're like, can you please, you know. Yeah, put the headphones on. I feel like that's a natural, a normal, you know, courtesy, right? And then. And then the other one, I'm like, on the airplane. I'm a guy, likes the window up. I like the sun. Like, you're flying the morning daytime. Like, I don't want to be in a dark coffin tube. You know what I mean? Like, when do we stop? When do we stop by having the windows down, you know? I mean, up, like. Anyway, that's my. What are you. Are you nuts? Yeah, that's it.

[Ben Soffer]

Those are two great ones. I've told the story about Teresa Giudice before from the Real Housewives of New Jersey sitting next to me on a plane.

[Chace Crawford]

How was that?

[Ben Soffer]

She was FaceTiming with no headphones. FaceTiming on Wi Fi.

[Chace Crawford]

That is obnoxious.

[Ben Soffer]

Insanity. Insanity. It's a flight from LA. I'm trying to switch his FaceTiming.

[Chace Crawford]

Oh, my God. But if she's from the Real Housewives, I mean, that would have been at least somewhat interesting. Like, oh, my God, of course. You know? Of course.

[Ben Soffer]

Oh, you're a Real Housewives fan.

[Chace Crawford]

To God, I start. Yeah, I haven't watched in a while, but I used to. I used to love it. Yeah, he loves bad tv.

[Ben Soffer]

Gold.

[Chace Crawford]

It's gold. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

I love it. Chase, this has been unbelievable. Do you have anything else that you want to talk about? Anything that you want to call out? Anything you want to promote before we wrap?

[Chace Crawford]

Yeah, no, I. Listen, we mentioned with my friend Kelly Teller, I'm launching, like, you know, I just got bored with the acting thing last year When I. Well, you know, when the strikes were going, I didn't have much to do to do. And we started this clothing apparel company that's, that's launching on June 6th called American Dream Clubhouse. It's got polos that are a few that are for golf, but it's mainly like high quality, like really, really nice polos and T shirts and hoodies. And I kind of wanted to just create something that was custom to me or I couldn't find everything in a one stop shop that kind of had like the colors and the sizes I like. And we're really excited about it. So, yeah, American Dream Club House website's going to be open in two weeks and it's great. So, yeah, please check it out.

[Ben Soffer]

Amazing. We will, Josh. I love a good polo. Love it.

[Chace Crawford]

Polos are good, baby. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

As long as, as long as there's a little stretch in it. Nothing too.

[Chace Crawford]

There's a little stretch and they're not. Yeah, they're not too tight. They're not overly, you know, tailored. They're not. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's good. So, yeah, perfect. We'll get you guys some.

[Ben Soffer]

I love it. Well, folks, if this episode isn't 5 stars, what are you nuts? Listen to us wherever you get your podcast. Watch us on YouTube, share our clips. Instagram and TikTok Mondays and Thursdays, folks, the great Chase Crawford. Thank you so much.

[Chace Crawford]

Thanks for having me, guys. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Cheers.

[Josh Peck]

Awesome.

[Chace Crawford]

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[Josh Peck]

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[Ben Soffer]

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